1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: Being at rock bottom is a solid foundation from which 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: to change, from which to transform to build something new. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: And it's those rock bottoms which actually give us the 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 1: motivation to do something about what's not working. 5 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome back to the Rise and Conker podcast. 6 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 2: It is your host, Georgie Stephenson. As some of you 7 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 2: may know, I'm currently on maternity leave, so Tim and 8 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: I are soaking up the newborn bubble and new parent 9 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 2: life with our little baby girl. But I did not 10 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: want to leave my ron C fan with nothing, so 11 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: we are bringing back the best bits of the Rise 12 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: and Conquer podcasts. We have nearly over two hundred episodes, 13 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: so I thought it would be a cool idea to 14 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 2: bring you snippets from the most listened to, the most 15 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 2: talked about episodes and just give you the best bits 16 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: in a mini episode. So be prepared to get straight 17 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: into juicy topics, to feel inspired, to feel motivated, empowered 18 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 2: and of course informed. These episodes are shorter, but they're 19 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 2: just full of the best bits. If you did like 20 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 2: this mini app, make sure you go to the show 21 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: notes where we have linked the full episode. And I 22 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: just want to say I really appreciate you guys. Still 23 00:01:42,640 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 2: supporting the show while I'm taking some time off to 24 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: enjoy Baby Girl, and I just can't wait to be 25 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: back in your ears with fresh episodes in the new year. 26 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: We have been planning the next season and there are 27 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 2: so many exciting guests and surprises, So I really hope 28 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: you enjoy this mini episode. Let's get straight into the show. 29 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm a huge fan of rock bottoms. 30 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: Anyone who's listening, if you're in a rock bottom like 31 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: this is a really good thing. Being at rock bottom 32 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: is a solid foundation from which to change, from which 33 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: to transform, to build something new. And it's those rock 34 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 1: bottoms which actually give us the motivation to do something 35 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: about what's not working. When you're kind of just cruising 36 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: through life and things are all right, that's a dangerous 37 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: place to be in because you're not going to have 38 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 1: the motivation to change and you're not going to have 39 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: the motivation to go after the things that you want. Because, like, 40 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: my soul was dehydrated, so you know, I had to 41 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: do something at that point. 42 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 3: And I'm so grateful for all of the. 43 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: Challenges and things that I've been through in the trauma 44 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: and stuff, because it's been the game changer for me. 45 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: It's what helped me change and it's what helped me 46 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: have the life that I have now. 47 00:02:56,680 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: And I love that you've sort of taken a native 48 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 2: taking those really low times and now realize that you 49 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 2: sort of that needed to happen, Like everything happens for 50 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 2: a reason, and that's what's got to the place where 51 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: you're at now. And obviously you are like thriving, so 52 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 2: that's amazing. 53 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 3: Aw thank you. 54 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 2: Can you talk to us like define what is confidence? 55 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 3: Confidence is many things, but essentially it's an energy. So 56 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 3: what most of us. 57 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: Think confidence is is being extroverted or being bold, or 58 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: taking loads of selfies or something like that. But what 59 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: confidence is is it's an inner energy. It's really important 60 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: to say that it's not being extroverted, because there are 61 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are very introverted who feel 62 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: really bad about themselves because they're never going to be 63 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: that extroverted, bold in your face person because that will 64 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: physically drain them. Confidence is an inner knowing and inner energy, 65 00:03:56,320 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: and it's essentially a relationship of trust with your so 66 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: trusting that you will show up for yourself, trusting that 67 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: you will be in integrity with the person that you 68 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: want to become. What confidence is is being an integrity 69 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: with our values. So if I say that I want 70 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: to be a kind and authentic person, if I'm there 71 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:22,840 Speaker 1: being a people pleaser, I'm not creating that trusting relationship 72 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: with myself. So if you imagine a relationship with a 73 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: friend or a partner, if they said that they were 74 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: going to do a bunch of things and then they 75 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 1: did a bunch of other things, they wouldn't be very 76 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 1: good trust there. They wouldn't be reliability. You wouldn't believe 77 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: in that person to be who they said they were 78 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: going to be. 79 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:45,240 Speaker 3: And it's the same with ourselves. So confidence is this energy. 80 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:48,119 Speaker 1: That we embody on the inside, and it's the energy 81 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: of trust and a trusting relationship with who we are. 82 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: That's so interesting, Like, I love how you explained that, 83 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: but I've never heard it explain that way, But it 84 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: makes so much sense. I love that, and we're going 85 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 2: to get so much more into that. But you did 86 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:10,719 Speaker 2: touch on experiencing that comparison with each other, and I 87 00:05:10,760 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 2: do find, especially in women, we do definitely tend to 88 00:05:15,760 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 2: compare ourself to other people, and especially other women in 89 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 2: so many circumstances why do you think it's like second 90 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: nature to us as women to compare ourselves to others 91 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 2: around us. 92 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 1: Oh my god, this is such a big problem. So 93 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: all I do a lot of talks. I'm a speaker 94 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,119 Speaker 1: as well, and the comparison thing is always the question 95 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:41,359 Speaker 1: that gets asked. It's the thing that comes up with 96 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: my coaching clients. It's rife. So comparison. Let's just start 97 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: from the beginning. So when we're born, sometimes that starts 98 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: to come into the equation because we have lots of 99 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: siblings and we're being compared to them academically, or if 100 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: you're maybe a slightly more I don't want to say 101 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: naughty but self express child, you can say, why can't 102 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: you be. 103 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 3: More like your sister? That's something that might be said. 104 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: And these little, seemingly innocent things start to imprint on 105 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: our growing brain. When we're young, we don't have that 106 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: logical brain fully formed yet, we have our limbic brain, 107 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: which is our emotional brain, and this is where the 108 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: confidence stuff starts to come out of. So then we 109 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: go into schools, and schools are basically a comparison machine, right, 110 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: So we're put into different grades and subsets and marks 111 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: are compared against each other, and we're put into an 112 00:06:38,760 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: array of subjects that potentially we're not amazing at every 113 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 1: single one of them. And then we're taught to focus 114 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: on the subject or the grade that isn't as good 115 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: as the others, rather than focus on our strengths. So 116 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: we're kind of conditioned and brought up in a culture 117 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: that teaches us to focus on what's wrong and to 118 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: look around it how other people are doing it, and 119 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: in doing that. 120 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 3: We negate all of our strengths. 121 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: We turn a blind eye to all of the things 122 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: that we're good at. And you know, there's a great 123 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: quote that says comparison is the art of appreciating someone 124 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 1: else's gifts and not your own, And I think that 125 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 1: that's just the perfect summary of it, because when our 126 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: focus is turned outwards, it's not turned inwards. So when 127 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: we compare ourselves, we don't give ourselves an opportunity to 128 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: lean into our strengths or to even potentially make those 129 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: strengths better or develop them, because we're so obsessed with 130 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: creating I guess equality in these areas that we're not 131 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 1: as good in with the people who are amazing in 132 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: those areas. It's really unfair. It's an unfair gain to 133 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: put ourselves into. Biologically, this exists because you know, in 134 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: an ancient culture where we belong to communities, if you 135 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: were allegated or outcasts from a community, you wouldn't survive 136 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 1: the night. So in order to assimilate, in order to 137 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 1: be like the tribe or like the community, we would 138 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,360 Speaker 1: focus on what the community's like, and we'd look to 139 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: the adults as babies to figure out how we should 140 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: behave and what the what the norm was. Essentially, so 141 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: this is programmed really really deeply into us. But the 142 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 1: thing is it doesn't work anymore. 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Do you have any tools that we can 180 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,120 Speaker 2: use if, like, you know, when we get in that 181 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 2: mindset where we are constantly comparing ourselves. 182 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: Definitely, so you've got to focus on your strengths. So 183 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: something that is super simple that you can do. I 184 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: have all my clients and the women in my academy 185 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 1: do this is to write a full page, not in 186 00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:14,360 Speaker 1: your phone, in a journal with a pen, old school 187 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: way and write a full page, which I call owning 188 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: your sparkle. So to own your sparkle is to write 189 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,760 Speaker 1: down everything that is unique, special and amazing about you. 190 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 3: And the reason that I say do it by hand 191 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 3: is because you're going to call on that mind map. 192 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: You're going to call on that piece of paper when 193 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: you're having a really bad day, when you're having doubt 194 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: before you're going into the boardroom, or when you're having 195 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: doubt when you're in your relationship or in your friendship, 196 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 1: or with what you want to do in your life, 197 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: and you're going to get that page out and see 198 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: it in your own handwriting and see a full page 199 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,080 Speaker 1: of things that are great about you. 200 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: This is super powerful because. 201 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: What we do normally when we want to feel confident 202 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: is we might listen to somebody on Instagram talking about 203 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: it or a podcast and they say, you know, just 204 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: just honor you and just think about the great things 205 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: about you. But in the same way that if I 206 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: want to go get fit, I can't just think about 207 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: going to the gym. I have to have a practice. 208 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: I have to take an action. So when we take 209 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: in action to feel the way we want to feel, 210 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 1: we actually help our brain to re ingrain that new belief. 211 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,080 Speaker 1: So we re ingrain that new process around what do 212 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: I do physically when I feel self doubt? And that 213 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 1: is to go and honor your strength. So having this 214 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: map is a really easy one because you can put 215 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 1: it on your bathroom mirror and look at it every day. 216 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: You can have it under your pillow when you're you know, 217 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: having a cry after work or whatever the situation is. 218 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: So this is a real game changer. The other thing 219 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: that I would recommend is when you're comparing yourself to somebody, 220 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 1: ask yourself, is what I am comparing in that person 221 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 1: something that I would really like to cultivate in me? 222 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about booties and you know the 223 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: way someone's makeup looks. I'm talking about things that are 224 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: tied to your desires, or your values, or potentially a 225 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: career that you want to go into, or your purpose. 226 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: You know this kind of big stuff, right, And when 227 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 1: you see someone doing that and you feel that comparison, 228 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: ask yourself, do I want to do that? And am 229 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: I inspired by that? And that can just really change 230 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: the whole energy around the comparison, because instead of it 231 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: becoming this unattainable thing, it becomes an aspiration. And what 232 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 1: you may even like to do is reach out to 233 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 1: that person and tell them that you really admire that 234 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,959 Speaker 1: in them. That will lift a lot of the shame 235 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: that you're experiencing, and also you might create a closeness 236 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: with that person. They may give you some tips that 237 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: can help you in your aspiration to cultivate whatever that is. 238 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 1: And this is a tool that I use all the 239 00:13:56,559 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: time in business because I'm surrounded by amazing women who 240 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, are internationally acclaimed coaches and speakers and authors, 241 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 1: And I always, always, always compliment them on the thing 242 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: that I'm potentially comparing myself to in them, because I 243 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: admire it, and I know that that comparison feeling is 244 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: usually inspiration and admiration for them. 245 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 2: So I want to search gears again, and I want 246 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: to talk to you about how you deal with confidence 247 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 2: after taking, you know, quite a big life event, whether 248 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: it is a loss or a breakup or something big 249 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 2: like that that really shapes you. So what do you 250 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 2: usually tell your clients when they. 251 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: Come to you with a problem like this? 252 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 2: And how can someone build themselves back up after something 253 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 2: like this. 254 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 1: So these are the two things that tend to inspire 255 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: people to come and see me. I deal with a 256 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 1: lot of breakups and then also, really sadly, a lot 257 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: of women who come to me after they've lost a 258 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: loved one or a parent, and these things are really 259 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: really confidence breaking. Often they bring to the surface a 260 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: lot of underlying issues. So these things can be really traumatizing, 261 00:15:14,440 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: and they bring up a lot of old wounds in 262 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: the existing wound. So what I usually tell clients is 263 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 1: to start focusing on their values. So what we normally 264 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: do is we focus on what we need in our 265 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: lives to validate us. And when we lose someone that 266 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 1: is important to us, a lot of alarm bells go 267 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: off because we feel abandoned, we feel lost, we feel stuck. 268 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: And the values can be a really good way of 269 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: helping you to get back into motion and to feel 270 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: good about who you are. So self kindness is always 271 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: going to have to come first. So when we're having 272 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: a breakup, or we're having a really hard time, or 273 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: we're grieving, self kindness is the foundation that we need 274 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: to begin with, and that means having a self kindness practice. 275 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: So writing a gratitude list, but writing a gratitude list 276 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: about who you are, focusing on the things that you're 277 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: doing well in the day. So even if you've had 278 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: the most horrific day, writing down what your three wins 279 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: were for the day, even if it was I didn't 280 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: have a meltdown in the boardroom or I didn't yell 281 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: at so and so when I wanted to, and you know, 282 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: finding those little glimmers of positivity in a time that's 283 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 1: really hard for you is going to be so important 284 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: to getting your self esteem and your resilience back on track. 285 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: When it comes to the values themselves, I encourage people 286 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 1: to write a list of their values. This is really 287 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: quite a weird one for a lot of people when 288 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: I asked, because they say, I don't know what my 289 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: values are, and we need to get really really clear 290 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: on what what our values are. Who do we want 291 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: to become because life is happening right now, and sometimes 292 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: when we lose someone, that really brings that up, that 293 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 1: realization that our life is happening right now and we're 294 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,160 Speaker 1: running out of time and we're not becoming the people 295 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: that we want to become. 296 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,040 Speaker 3: So when we focus on. 297 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: These values over being validated by our job or our boyfriend, 298 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 1: or our clothes or how much money we have, and 299 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: we focus on the fact that maybe we'll want to 300 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: be a kind person and we want to be an 301 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: authentic person, and we want to make a difference to 302 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: people's lives, we can start to shift our life and 303 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: shift our actions and our behaviors to match those values. 304 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: And that's when the real magic, the real healing, and 305 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: the self esteem after a loss can really start to 306 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 1: show up. 307 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: I was just thinking, like it's so amazing that you 308 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: were helping women with these things, because sometimes they can 309 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,159 Speaker 2: be like simple things that we need to do and 310 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 2: mindset changes, but we need the guidance and the tools 311 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 2: to make those changes and you know, transform our lives. 312 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 2: So it is really amazing that you're doing this sort 313 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: of work. 314 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 3: Oh, thank you. 315 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: I mean, my whole story started with a breakup that 316 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: was the real kind of breaking point that. 317 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 3: Led to the downward spirals. 318 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: So I come from a place of a lot of 319 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: compassion for anyone who's going through this, and these are 320 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 1: the tools that I use. But I just was making 321 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: it up at the time and using journals and then 322 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,439 Speaker 1: seeing coaches, you know, and I try and tell people 323 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: now what I wish I had have known back then, 324 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: and it was just always always start with your values 325 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 1: and start with a person that you want to become. 326 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:48,440 Speaker 1: Because we can ever control life. We can't control whether 327 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: someone's going to break up with us, we can't control 328 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: whether someone's going to die. We can't control if we're 329 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: going to keep or lose our job, or keep or 330 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: lose our house. But we can always, always, always control 331 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: who we are being in every moment and how we're 332 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 1: showing up. 333 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 2: Thank you for listening for another rn C episode. I 334 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,199 Speaker 2: really appreciate taking the time to be here with me, 335 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: and also for taking the time for yourself. If you 336 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:17,479 Speaker 2: found this episode helpful, it would be so amazing if 337 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 2: you shared it on your stories and tagged us, or 338 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: simply just send it on to a girlfriend or family 339 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 2: member who would benefit from listening. 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