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Speaker 1: And lisas how it's amazing in Wa.

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Speaker 2: Bring this son, I'll make you a start.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, with WA becoming quite the hub of film production

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Speaker 3: in recent times, we've decided to dig a bit deeper

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Speaker 3: with this news series how to Make It Stick with

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Speaker 3: Brian You'll make you a Star, And we're going to

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Speaker 3: start at the beginning where it does start for a

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Speaker 3: lot of people today. Whopper the West Australian Academy of

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Speaker 3: Performing Arts and doctor Renee Newman is the Associate.

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Speaker 4: Dean at WAPPER and joins us. Good morning, Welcome, Hi, Hi,

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Speaker 4: thanks so much for having me, Thanks.

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Speaker 3: So much for joining us, and congratulations on having one

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Speaker 3: of the most amazing performing arts schools around on the planet.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a pretty amazing place to work and be

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Speaker 6: surrounded by these extraordinary students and stuff.

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Speaker 4: But it is WOPPER been around for now, okay.

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Speaker 6: So we've been part of its US city is that

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Speaker 6: we actually go back a little bit further than that,

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Speaker 6: So we've been around for quite a while. Yeah, and

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Speaker 6: we have, you know, like the most comprehensive performing arts

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Speaker 6: training program in Australia, So we go across music, dance, acting, music, theater,

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Speaker 6: arts and cultural management. We have production and design, we

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Speaker 6: have performing arts. So many different programs on offer.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure it's evolved over the is.

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Speaker 7: But what about the courses and the pathways for potential

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: What can I say? What are the what's on offer

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Speaker 7: for them that can help them tack that next time?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 6: So we've got our VT Vocational Education training programs, so

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Speaker 6: diploma and Advanced diplomber. We've got to set forward aboriginal performance.

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Speaker 6: The VT programs go across music, dance, acting for screen

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Speaker 6: performance as well as music, theater, live production and technical services,

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Speaker 6: which is what covers our production and design. So that

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Speaker 6: might be lighting and sound or costume, it could be

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Speaker 4: Then you have the high Rate.

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Speaker 6: Which is the Bachelor of Arts in Acting MP, music.

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Speaker 6: We also have a Bachelor of Performing Arts, which is

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Speaker 6: performance making, which is kind of like where you learn

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Speaker 6: to be a writer, a director, an actor, but also

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Speaker 6: to make new and original devised performance. So for the

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Speaker 6: news stories for the coming through. Yes, so there's a

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Speaker 6: whole range and arts and cultural management, which is also

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Speaker 6: that whole facet of how to make great art.

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Speaker 3: So if you're someone in high school now you're coming

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Speaker 4: What do they need to keep in mind?

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Speaker 3: Will there be an audition process as well as you know,

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Speaker 3: having to get a certain maggregate and that sort of thing.

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Speaker 6: Well, yeah, so it's interesting actually because some of our

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Speaker 6: I think what's always wise is that if you're a

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Speaker 6: So we've got a lot of information on the website

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Speaker 4: If it's interview.

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Speaker 6: There's all the information there, including basic entrants as well,

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Speaker 6: They're they're hard, but they're also exciting, and they're a

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Speaker 6: Out your skills in an audition setting. Yeah, so there's

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Speaker 6: Anyone for that matter, who are interested in actually applying

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Speaker 7: Yeah, there's probably nothing more thrilling for people group like Whopper,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, sometimes it happens, and you know, and like we've

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Speaker 6: it is that thing of you know, we try to

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Speaker 6: knowing as well that that full program is really important.

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Speaker 6: But I think what's really exciting about what we're as

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Speaker 5: You know, there's all of.

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Speaker 6: These opportunities to actually be part of the industry while

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Speaker 6: all these tabulous, fabulous stars, right, But we also have

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Speaker 4: Who's at punch Drunk.

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Speaker 9: You know.

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Speaker 4: So there's hundreds of graduates who are working at every

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Speaker 3: There is no doubt it's renowned people. I mean even

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Speaker 3: And when you've spoken to a lot of these alums

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Speaker 3: And some of them Renee have cited the remoteness of

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Speaker 6: Absolutely I totally agree with that. I think sometimes we

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Speaker 6: there is something about that isolation that allows us to play,

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Speaker 6: Because it's the learning that will allow us to actually

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Speaker 10: Right, whether you are the actor or you're in art

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Speaker 6: And I think there's something about Perth that you're right,

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and so many players having seen Chicago Teama Turnatis

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Speaker 11: Yeah, absolutely, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: There is definitely there has definitely been a big number

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Speaker 4: That will be well.

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Speaker 6: And it's the most densely packed vertical set of vertical

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Speaker 4: And I think.

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Speaker 6: This is exciting for all of us.

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Speaker 4: It is a very exciting time.

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Speaker 3: In fact, we're going to talk to the Arts Minister

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty parochial, but we are so proud of whopper

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Speaker 3: the triple threats that you continue to pump out every year.

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Speaker 4: So great to talk to you this morning, doctor and

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Speaker 4: I oh, thank you for having me. Thanks for your time,

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Speaker 1: And lisas how to make yet in wa bring this.

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Speaker 4: Indeed, way is the hub at.

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Speaker 3: The moment with movies being made here, quality television series

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Speaker 12: Good morning, and it's going to joined Claires and Lisa.

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Speaker 12: How are you going lovely very well over now?

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Speaker 3: It's all so exciting and this just makes it all

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Speaker 12: Built, well, constructions commenced and the big, the big film

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Speaker 4: But look, they're underway now, will be opening.

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Speaker 12: I mean, I've even announced my retirement. I not that politics, well,

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Speaker 7: You should be in musicals because we know that you

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Speaker 4: How many jobs do you think it will create?

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Speaker 12: we're taking huge attention. I mean people around the world.

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Speaker 12: beautiful backdrops that we have in Western Australia. Yeah, that

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely beautiful light here as well. Dover and are

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Speaker 12: Yes, there are actually there there there I can't announce

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Speaker 13: Basically the Home Fire, which is the operator of the center,

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Speaker 12: The other thing, of course, which I think is importantly,

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Speaker 12: This is like the cream on the cake, the money

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Speaker 5: Now the other thing about our.

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Speaker 12: Most of the others in the other states are now constrained,

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Speaker 3: Yes, being a bit of a movie nerd, I do

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Speaker 12: Where absolutely so post production, pre production.

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Speaker 12: This facility will ensure that everything can be done here

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Speaker 5: We've got it, We've got everything.

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Speaker 12: Where's that place we've had For example, Mystery Roads Series

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Speaker 4: So directors want to come.

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Speaker 7: Now, hey, David, I'm thinking I'm getting excited because you

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very exciting. It's very excited. Is well, we

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Speaker 3: We can't wait until, you know, things get really rolling

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Speaker 4: best next year and beyond. Mate, Yes, thanks very much.

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Speaker 7: He's not running for our parliament, so that is very exciting.

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Speaker 7: And I think the thing I hadn't thought about until

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow we're going to talk to a casting director very

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Speaker 7: We continue our little journey along and how to make

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Speaker 4: That is exciting stuff.

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Speaker 1: So and Lisa's how do you make it in wa

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Speaker 2: I'll make you a star?

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Speaker 4: Thank you, Brian.

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Speaker 7: Good on you, Brian, Brian Brown. Not too many better. Hey,

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Speaker 7: Eila Fisherma Booth and Joy Corney just some of those.

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Speaker 7: And Johnny Yesterday casting director acting coach, and Anie Murder, Mike's

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Speaker 7: Andie welcome, Oh thank you, so.

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Speaker 3: Hi Hi, Clarzie, Hi Lisa, So talk to you lovely

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Speaker 3: to have you joined us on this.

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Speaker 15: What tell us?

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Speaker 3: First of all, Annie, let's start at the beginning. What

449
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Speaker 3: exactly is a casting director and how did you get

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Speaker 3: into it?

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Speaker 6: Great question actually because a lot of people get confumed.

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Speaker 6: So a casting director is someone who is hired by

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Speaker 6: a production either a film production company or television company

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Speaker 6: to help them find the best possible actors for a production.

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Speaker 6: So I work on behalf of the production company. An

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Speaker 6: actor's agent works on behalf of the actors and they

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Speaker 6: and they represent the actors. And so I deal with

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Speaker 6: all the different agents.

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Speaker 3: Dodger, working through your wish difference. You can the movie

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Speaker 3: whatever it will be.

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Speaker 11: It's always casting by committee these days. Sold every books.

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Speaker 11: You know, the producer, the director, the investors in the

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Speaker 11: film or the television show. So it could be Netflix,

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Speaker 11: or stand or the ABC or you know one of

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Speaker 11: the networks. Everyone tends to have a bit of a

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Speaker 11: say with the lead roles in something.

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Speaker 15: I bet.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, So it's an interesting job and it can be

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Speaker 11: very time intensive.

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Speaker 7: Put it that way, I would imagine, so any when

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Speaker 7: you're trying to deal with so many cooks, t I

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Speaker 7: come up with the right form it?

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Speaker 11: Yes? Yeah, what about hopefully it works?

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Speaker 3: Yes, it's those you have to deal with the actors

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Speaker 3: or is it their agents that approach you and go.

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Speaker 3: But mine's going to be perfect for that role of

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Speaker 3: you know that all be onto you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I suppose.

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Speaker 11: Look, I used to be an actor years ago and

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Speaker 11: I trained in that area, so I know what it

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Speaker 11: was like for them on that side, and hopefully I

482
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Speaker 11: can potentially help them to give their best performances when

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Speaker 11: it's when it comes time to do an audition or

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Speaker 11: a callback.

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Speaker 7: And can I say, a bloody good actor too, because

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Speaker 7: you fooled us one day and I kind of did

487
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Speaker 7: it was very curious and didnt acting course Sunday your

488
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Speaker 7: tutelage and watched you could completely baffle us with a

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Speaker 7: performance for a guy who reckoned he rented the same.

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Speaker 11: Room I've forgotten about it.

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Speaker 4: It was well then to.

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Speaker 7: Show your skill, and you can't do what you do,

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Speaker 7: especially as an acting coach, without having those skills.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, oh that's I'm very glad to hear that it

495
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Speaker 6: was effective and.

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Speaker 3: An what a lot of people, you know, they talk

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Speaker 3: about the factor? What is the factor?

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Speaker 6: Look, I was reading something last night and it said

499
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Speaker 6: it only takes fifteen years to become an overnight success,

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Speaker 6: And I think it's so true because you've got to

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Speaker 6: You can have a certain quality that the screen loves,

502
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Speaker 6: but it has to learn how to use that and

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Speaker 6: be able to act effectively and bring a character to life.

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Speaker 6: And most people don't get cast in lead roles having

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Speaker 6: had no training or experience.

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Speaker 12: So if you're.

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Speaker 6: Interested in becoming a skilled actor, you've really got to

508
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Speaker 6: put in the hard yards. You've got to do some training,

509
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Speaker 6: and various people, like for instance, Heath Ledger, they had

510
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Speaker 6: their own acting coaches in LA and he would have

511
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Speaker 6: an acting coach to assist him with every single audition

512
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Speaker 6: and every role. He referred to him as a voice coach,

513
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Speaker 6: but he was really also his acting coach as well.

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Speaker 6: And most actors spend a lot of time developing their skills.

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Speaker 6: But I think for a lot of your listeners, what's

516
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Speaker 6: exciting with the new per Film Studio is that there's

517
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Speaker 6: potentially going to be a lot small productions filming in WA.

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Speaker 6: I mean, we could have big Hollywood productions because they've

519
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Speaker 6: got two twenty five thousand feet soundstages they're building. They

520
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Speaker 6: can be split into four smaller ones. There'll be probably

521
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Speaker 6: going to be quite a few more productions, and so

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Speaker 6: a lot of people might be interested in just having

523
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Speaker 6: the fun experience of being an extra.

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Speaker 3: Yes, TV, This is why we're talking about this some

525
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Speaker 3: in a bit more depth any because of the Gangbusters.

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Speaker 3: That way has gone recently in terms of being a

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Speaker 3: location for making staff. You know, we've had movies, We've

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Speaker 3: had The Twelve up in New York, We've had Runt

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Speaker 3: in York, just to name a few, and now we've

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Speaker 3: got the Malaga Studios coming. What would be your top

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Speaker 3: couple of tips to people, you know, just for the

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Speaker 3: ordinary of you know, not the people trying out for

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Speaker 3: major roles, they already know what they're doing, but those

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Speaker 3: of us just want to get involved in this industry

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Speaker 3: as an extra or whatever. How do people go about it?

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Speaker 3: How do they put themselves in the right place.

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Speaker 4: At the right time. A great question.

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Speaker 11: And by the way, just before I answer that, I

539
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Speaker 11: just want to give a plug because I was casting

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Speaker 11: director on Runs and it's close to the third biggest

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Speaker 11: opening weekend.

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Speaker 12: Film this year.

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Speaker 6: It's passed the one million total and it was all

544
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Speaker 6: filmed in Wa and all filmed in Perth and York.

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Speaker 6: And I'm so excited that a lovely family film who

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Speaker 6: has come from.

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Speaker 12: Wa like that.

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Speaker 11: Yes, So advice if you want to do extra work,

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Speaker 11: I would suggest that a good way is to join

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Speaker 11: an agency who represent extras.

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Speaker 6: So there are several in Perth. Some of those are

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Speaker 6: film Bites. Another one is called Padua, Another one is

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Speaker 6: Artist Artist Management Australia. Another one is called now Actors Now.

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Speaker 6: Both those last two also represent actors, but they do

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Speaker 6: have extras on their books as well. There are other

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Speaker 6: actors agents as well. There's several of those, but they're

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Speaker 6: more for people who have trained and have experience, but

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Speaker 6: also for extras. There are quite a lot of Facebook

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Speaker 6: groups in Perth.

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Speaker 12: Some of them are.

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Speaker 6: Called Perth Actors, some are called Actors in Perth, and

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Speaker 6: many times there are student filmmakers who post notices asking

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Speaker 6: for volunteers for their student films, and also when people

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Speaker 6: are casting productions and they need extras, like on films

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Speaker 6: like rumpt Or twelve.

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Speaker 4: The third series of.

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Speaker 6: The twelve is filming right at the moment in Perth

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Speaker 6: as well. Yeah, so often they will post if they're

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Speaker 6: searching for extras. A colleague of mine, Megan Carpenter, she's

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Speaker 6: a casting director in Perth and she specializes in extras

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Speaker 6: and in television commercials as well. So I would suggest

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Speaker 6: that exploring any of those would be a good way

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Speaker 6: of maybe joining one of the agencies and they're going

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Speaker 6: to be able to let you know when there are jobs,

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Speaker 6: and being an extra can be a lot of fun

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Speaker 6: because I'll get paid and get to you get to

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Speaker 6: observe what's going on. You just need to be prepared

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Speaker 6: that there's a lot of hurry.

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Speaker 4: Up and wait.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's funny you say that, because when they made

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Speaker 7: the boxing movie two for one Hard in Australia about

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Speaker 7: fifteen years ago Rail We've had a lot of friends

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Speaker 7: who were extras in that and for the boxing scenes,

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Speaker 7: they had to keep moving around to make it look

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Speaker 7: like it was a full studium of people, but it

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Speaker 7: was it was a whole day. Is it going to

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Speaker 7: be patient? But you learned so much from behind the scenes.

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Speaker 6: Yes, yeah, and it's it's fascinating to watch to see

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Speaker 6: how they do it and how the actors get directed.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, you do need to be prepared, so you

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Speaker 6: need to take along the book with you and a

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Speaker 6: jumper in case it gets cold. But you get fed

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Speaker 6: and paid, so it can be something to do. It's

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Speaker 6: pretty exciting.

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Speaker 3: I remember a movie that came out in nineteen eighty

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Speaker 3: called Harlequin.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if anyone remembers this movie, and it

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Speaker 4: was horrible, scary, scary one.

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Speaker 3: It was the first movie ever to be made because

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Speaker 3: it was made with the Wa Film Corporation and it

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Speaker 3: was made in Wa but it was set in the States,

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Speaker 3: and they tried to make out that it was filmed

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Speaker 3: in the States, but it was made here. And I

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Speaker 3: remember watching and there were scenes on the river sort

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Speaker 3: of around Mosman Parkway, and I was my thirteen year

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Speaker 3: old self or whatever was so excited that.

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Speaker 4: It was on the screen.

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Speaker 3: So to see it come to this extent where we're

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Speaker 3: making these, you know, we've got huge stars coming to

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Speaker 3: town to make these movies and quality television like the.

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Speaker 4: Twelve being made right on our doorstep. It must be.

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Speaker 3: You must what you've seen in your time, and you

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Speaker 3: must be. I'm so excited by the developments.

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Speaker 11: I am.

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Speaker 6: And look, we've known for years that wa has the

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Speaker 6: most beautiful, unique light I know you don't have today

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Speaker 6: at the moment.

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Speaker 4: We always talked about the light.

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Speaker 6: We have nine months of almost guaranteed perfect filming weather,

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Speaker 6: you know, because our climate really I suppose it's quite

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Speaker 6: similar to Los Angeles in that way, but we have

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Speaker 6: ideal conditions for filming. But the challenge I think is

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Speaker 6: up until now is we've never had a film studio.

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Speaker 6: And all the other capital cities except for Darwin, I

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Speaker 6: think all of them and Tasmania hover that all of

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Speaker 6: the others have got film studios, some more than one,

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Speaker 6: and so we've been missing out for years. And I've

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Speaker 6: got to tell you we were so stoked that David Templeman,

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Speaker 6: our arts minister, managed to push for this and has

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Speaker 6: managed to make it a reality. And now we're devastated

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Speaker 6: because he's stepping down.

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Speaker 3: He has his eye on signing up. Though to us

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Speaker 3: it was to be an extra all right. We spoke

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Speaker 3: to him yesterday. You're excited about that, so right about

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Speaker 3: the light? I remember when they made Cloud Street, the

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Speaker 3: director was absolutely adamant that it be made here because

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Speaker 3: he said, you cannot create that light anywhere else, and

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Speaker 3: it was, you know, was.

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Speaker 4: Captured in Cloud Street.

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Speaker 3: Can you tell us anything about any of the things

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Speaker 3: you've been involved with just recently or are involved with

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Speaker 3: as well.

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Speaker 11: Run is what I just the latest film that I

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Speaker 11: on and I'm just so excited that it's come out,

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Speaker 11: and if if audiences haven't gone to see it, I

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Speaker 11: really recommend it for their families, for any age.

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 6: It's the adaptation of Craig Silvey's novel Yep. I know

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Speaker 6: it's playing currently at Luna Leadable and I think most

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Speaker 6: other cinemas yes as well. And it's a really beautiful

651
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Speaker 6: film with amazing classic Australian actors in it as well,

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Speaker 6: So that's a perfect one I would recommend.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, we're big Craig silver fans, so we're already gunning

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Speaker 3: for Honeybee to be one of.

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Speaker 4: The next things. A couple of weeks ago, Yeah, we

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Speaker 4: made Yeah, we could let you go.

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Speaker 7: I just want to raise the word. I want to

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Speaker 7: bring up the word charisma. Now you talked about acting skill.

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Speaker 7: You have to have skill to make it. But I

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Speaker 7: look at someone them multiple generations of actors, and you

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Speaker 7: look at someone like Sam Neil looking so good in

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Speaker 7: his seventies, and then Lee Tiger Helli from Frio, the

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Speaker 7: Young Fella, and then.

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Speaker 4: Everyone in between.

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Speaker 7: Sometimes they just walk in for an auditional walk in

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Speaker 7: and you just go they've got.

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Speaker 4: It or do you have to see the depth of

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Speaker 4: the skill first look.

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Speaker 6: I certainly think the camera does love some people, and

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Speaker 6: that's to.

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Speaker 4: Do with one clue. Yeah, they're photogenicity.

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Speaker 5: I made that word up.

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Speaker 6: That's really to do with their bone structure, their eye color,

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Speaker 6: their their skin tone, the quality of their voice, all

676
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Speaker 6: of those things. Certainly, if they're not difficult to look

677
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Speaker 6: at or look at, then we take notice. And that's

678
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Speaker 6: across the board. And they don't have to be beautiful either.

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Speaker 6: It can be something that knows you through.

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Speaker 11: Them and their eyes and what they embody when they

681
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Speaker 11: bring you they come on screen. But that won't do

682
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Speaker 11: it only otherwise models would be playing the leads everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well has got that photognicity in.

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Speaker 7: Spain, And then you're going to who's walked under the

685
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Speaker 7: set and become become a quality actress as well, exactly.

686
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Speaker 6: And Lee we cast I cast him in The Heights,

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Speaker 6: which is the A episode in his first adut role,

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Speaker 6: and it was just beautiful to to really see him

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Speaker 6: blossom and what he did in Boys Follows universal extraordinary, extraordinary.

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Speaker 3: Indeed, by the way I loved The Heights, I would

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Speaker 3: if I would have no problem with the making another series,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think there's going to be anymore now.

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Speaker 11: I think we wanted it. We wanted it. COVID here, Yes,

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Speaker 11: cuts to the ABC here.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, we love doing that.

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Speaker 6: And that was all filmed in Perth.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well yeah absolutely, cod we drive past the building

698
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Speaker 3: to you know, to get into work.

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Speaker 4: Annie, thanks for what you do, keep doing it.

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Speaker 3: It's all fantastic, And thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 3: us today with all that great advice about where people

702
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Speaker 3: will to make sure they're in the right place to

703
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 3: all to happen, because it's exciting plays the right time.

704
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Speaker 4: You never know what's going to happen.

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Speaker 6: It is, it is, and let's hope our industry continues

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Speaker 6: to keep growing.

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Speaker 11: Here.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I think it's going to any good again. Thanks Annie,

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Speaker 4: yes see you lay.

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Speaker 7: Uh some of these guests and you can hear the

711
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Speaker 7: excitement about this new studio setup in Malai.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very very cool.

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Speaker 3: So film bites, Padoir, Artist Management Australia. Good good advice.

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Speaker 7: There, And like you say, let's twenty twenty six will

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Speaker 7: be here like that, Yeah, where production will start and

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Speaker 7: let's hope.

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Speaker 4: We can be like New Yorker's by the end of

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Speaker 4: this decade.

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Speaker 3: We all have appeared in some sort somewhere, you know,

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Speaker 3: as an extra shot The Red Jumper, More More, Lisa.

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Speaker 1: More podcasts soon clear and Lisa's how do.

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Speaker 4: It make it?

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Speaker 2: In way you bring this sun, I'll make your start.

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Speaker 3: This has been fabulous And today Jordan Prince Wright is

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Speaker 3: joining us. Good Morning director w film director of the

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Speaker 3: movie Before Dawn, amongst other things. Before Dawn is coming

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Speaker 3: out on Netflix tonight, Slash Tomorrow. You were just telling

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Speaker 3: us and this is not the usual thing that happens

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Speaker 3: in the States.

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Speaker 4: It was meant to have what a three week cinema.

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Speaker 16: It's meant to run three weeks cinema run ended up

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Speaker 16: doing eleven weeks in the cinemas and the States.

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Speaker 4: That's high praise.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and it's gone pretty much equivalent in Europe. It's

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Speaker 16: just gone mental over there, which is rantaic. Well, I'm

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Speaker 16: not surprised because it looks amazing.

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Speaker 9: What a great resource.

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Speaker 4: It is an Anzac story.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, and it's an Anzac story that needed to be told.

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Speaker 16: And I read the diaries back when I was in

741
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Speaker 16: high school. Yeah, and going through those diaries and you know,

742
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Speaker 16: everybody knows the story of Gallipoli, but they don't necessarily

743
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Speaker 16: know the story of the Western Front.

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Speaker 15: So reading those diaries and just seeing.

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Speaker 16: The sacrifices of what those men and women went through

746
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Speaker 16: back then, it was like, no, this, this has to

747
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Speaker 16: be told, This has to be put on the big screen.

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Speaker 16: And so all the films are previously done, have been

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Speaker 16: leading up to this, and the purpose of this was

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Speaker 16: an awareness piece, and little did we know it would

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Speaker 16: go this gangbusters around the world.

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Speaker 7: Though it is incredible now. Ian Hale from the back

753
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Speaker 7: movie cinemas of course, in Halo Films, he spoke to

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Speaker 7: us what a couple years ago, last year and a

755
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Speaker 7: half ago about you, and he said, there was this

756
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Speaker 7: key who wrote to me, how old were you when

757
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Speaker 7: you rose?

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Speaker 16: About thirteen years old? When I wrote to and said, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 16: I want to be a movie maker. And you know,

760
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Speaker 16: and little did I know what was actually involved in

761
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Speaker 16: my film. But no, I wrote to him and he wrote,

762
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Speaker 16: he wrote back to me, he was encouragement. He still yeah,

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Speaker 16: he still got the letter today and I still got

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Speaker 16: the letter he wrote back to me.

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Speaker 4: Dined out on you a lot.

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Speaker 16: It was quite funny though, because I remember going to

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Speaker 16: him with the Western that I did and he's like, yeah,

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Speaker 16: you know great, make it so encouraging.

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Speaker 15: And we won awards in l A.

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Speaker 16: And I got to meet a lot of people like

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Speaker 16: Jack Thompson I got to meet when I was in

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Speaker 16: high stool and advice and and long story short with

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Speaker 16: you know when we started with the war film. Because

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Speaker 16: we've made all these films to date, but now you're

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Speaker 16: going to go to this whole next level, you know,

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Speaker 16: a Hollywood level.

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Speaker 15: You're going to need a significant amount of funding.

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Speaker 16: Six months later, went back told him I did it,

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Speaker 16: and he's like, well, I don't have a choice.

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Speaker 3: Now I guess we'll have to be Yeah, now you

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Speaker 3: went to Whopper.

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Speaker 16: Yes, I went to ECU and got to the units

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Speaker 16: a Whopper and whatnot and what you learned there is incredible,

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Speaker 16: you know, and now EC is moving into the city's fantastic.

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Speaker 15: So it's really it's really.

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Speaker 16: Exciting that we've got, specially at the studio that's been

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Speaker 16: built here as well. There's plenty of opportunities for upcoming

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Speaker 16: talent and artists to actually you know, explore because you know,

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Speaker 16: Australia's all really loves the sports, but there's also the incredible.

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Speaker 15: Artists here, you know, and you see that that around

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Speaker 15: the world.

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Speaker 16: In fact, the recent awards that have just come back

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Speaker 16: from in the Netherlands, which was the Septimius Awards. We

794
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Speaker 16: one night we were just sitting in a restaurant started

795
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Speaker 16: chatting to these Aussies and they were all from Whopper.

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Speaker 16: They were in some musical theater show over there.

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Speaker 4: So it shows you Aussies are.

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Speaker 15: Really taking over the art scene around the world.

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Speaker 7: How excited are you about Malagamo, because it's going to

800
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Speaker 7: be a big stuff up there. As a filmmaker, you

801
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Speaker 7: must be, oh, definitely.

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Speaker 16: And I think it's really good that the government's got

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Speaker 16: behind this and before Dawn it was an independent production

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Speaker 16: and it can actually be you know, without being.

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Speaker 15: Too political about it.

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Speaker 16: It is hard to get funding sometimes from government to

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Speaker 16: make films, even if it's an ANZAC film, but to say, hey,

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Speaker 16: look we've actually now got the studio that's being built

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Speaker 16: there and hopefully that we have that support that the

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Speaker 16: local art to see in WA get to actually be

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Speaker 16: involved in that and we actually get to and it's

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Speaker 16: not just overseas or over east so to speak, and

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Speaker 16: we actually get those jobs here to Yeah, it's going

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Speaker 16: to be interesting to see what happens there, but I

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Speaker 16: know the local scene, we're super excited, and yeah, there's

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Speaker 16: gonna be a lot more opportunities to.

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Speaker 3: Come, and the whole movie can all be done in

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Speaker 3: the one stage rather than having so you know, some

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Speaker 3: bits there in the post production somewhere else entirely. As

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Speaker 3: a director, you know why WA is really taking.

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Speaker 4: Off because of our incredible locations.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I mean before Dawn we filmed a World War

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Speaker 16: One film in Esperance, you know, and then we had

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Speaker 16: Q where was all the outback scenes. So we have

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Speaker 16: got magical locations here and I guess also, yeah, with

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Speaker 16: the studio, go back to it saying about doing stuff.

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Speaker 16: We had to have studios over East, but we even

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Speaker 16: had studios in India assisting us out because there wasn't

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Speaker 16: that capability here in WA. We've got everything up to

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Speaker 16: the stage of post production, but nothing beyond that. So

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Speaker 16: then you know, other than places like ends, the backlot

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Speaker 16: and that sort of thing. So for us, it was

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Speaker 16: one of those things going Okay, well we've got the

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Speaker 16: magical locations, we have.

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Speaker 15: To source overseas.

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Speaker 16: But yeah, look before Dawn, you know, we brought in

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Speaker 16: thirty tons of wood to Esperance. And one thing that

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Speaker 16: stands out with doing stuff like that on such a

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Speaker 16: massive scale, as you're making a Hollywood film with a

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Speaker 16: limited budget, how do you do that while it's the

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Speaker 16: community and way has that community that really want to

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Speaker 16: get behind you.

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Speaker 15: And Before Dawn and all the films.

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Speaker 16: That I've worked on in WA would not have been

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Speaker 16: possible without that community support.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Jordan Quentin Tarantino is an interesting care right, So he

848
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 7: was the guy who, you know, the movie freak almost

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Speaker 7: born in the wrong era and he was working in

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Speaker 7: the video shop and became a monster success as a filmmaker.

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Speaker 7: Were you born in the wrong era? What were you

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Speaker 7: doing as a kid watching Stee John Wayne movies? Definitely

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Speaker 7: definitely was born in the wrong era.

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Speaker 15: My old man.

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Speaker 16: He used to go to video easy and order in

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Speaker 16: black and white. The Stage Coach was one of my

857
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 16: favorite films with John Wayne, and they used to say

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Speaker 16: to you know, dad, oh, this is for his dad,

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Speaker 16: you know granddad, AND's like, no, no, this is for

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Speaker 16: my son who's like four years old watching this.

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Speaker 15: And you know, so in.

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Speaker 16: Facts, when you guys were just playing Michael Jackson then

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Speaker 16: on the radio before everyone's texting me going, this is

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Speaker 16: quite ironic because you know you're an eighties fan. You're

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Speaker 16: about to go on the radio and they're playing eighties

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Speaker 16: before you jump on. It's like, yeah, I was born

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Speaker 16: in the wrong era. But that also is great in

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Speaker 16: the sense that when we're making films, I prefer to

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Speaker 16: do it the old school way, like let's do least

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Speaker 16: amount of CGI, let's focus on the story, the characters

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Speaker 16: and really bring that old school filmmaking. So that way, well,

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Speaker 16: that way, you know, five ten years from now, you

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Speaker 16: can watch that film again and it hasn't outdated.

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Speaker 4: So I just recently watched twelve Angry Man for the.

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Speaker 3: Like hundred a million time in my life, and that

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Speaker 3: is a classic example. You know, no CG on that

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Speaker 3: and it's really really good, did you? What was it

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Speaker 3: always I want to be a director. I want to

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Speaker 3: be the guy that's sitting in the chair directing the whole.

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Speaker 16: Oh, it's a good question. I don't think so. I

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Speaker 16: think this is just the way that it's kind of

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Speaker 16: played out. But in high school it was I was

883
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Speaker 16: originally I was going into customs, originally border security, watching

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Speaker 16: TV shirt But I always was running around as a kid,

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Speaker 16: making like films and just filming stuff, right. And then

886
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 16: I hit high school and I went to Swan Christian,

887
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 16: which was a great school there, and they had this

888
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 16: media department. And I came home when I was thirteen

889
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 16: and year eight, so my dad, yet, I'm going to

890
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 16: be a filmmaker, And of course they went arts, you

891
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,640
Speaker 16: know versus government paid job. You know, this is going

892
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 16: to be interesting, you know. And I was like, no,

893
00:45:39,360 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 16: I'm going in the arts industry and I'm going to

894
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,080
Speaker 16: do it. And the more I started working on I

895
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:45,880
Speaker 16: guess the craft in high school because when you're in

896
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 16: high school, you're just having fun. Same when you're at unis,

897
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,439
Speaker 16: you're just making mistakes, and you know, learning from those

898
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 16: mistakes because it's that mistake's not going to cost you

899
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 16: ten twenty thirty thousand dollars like it would on a

900
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,840
Speaker 16: big zep And I just fell in love with the

901
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 16: craft and I look back on it and I think

902
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 16: I was always born to do it because as a

903
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 16: kid I was watching the old school, old school films.

904
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've only got themselves to blame because they started

905
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 3: you off.

906
00:46:09,040 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 7: With exactly and you're born to do it, is I

907
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 7: Ben Athleck and Mad David, you know.

908
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 16: And it's not funny because even with the trench, there

909
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,719
Speaker 16: was all the post holes, the fold digger that needed

910
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 16: full the uprights that they're doing, and there was three

911
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 16: hundred odd plus and so that was my dad was

912
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 16: going around drilling all those and now and then the

913
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 16: post old digger would whack him on the hip and

914
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 16: you know he'd go, oh, you know, like.

915
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 15: Well that's your fault, dad, you know.

916
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:35,799
Speaker 16: Yeah, And then sometimes it'd be like, oh, this is

917
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,240
Speaker 16: broken down, all that's broken down, All this needs fixing.

918
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 16: It's like, well, Dad's going to help out with that.

919
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 16: So it's a very family orientated set. And you know,

920
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 16: before Dawn and all my films have only really been

921
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 16: possible because of the support from the family and the

922
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 16: cast and crew, which is very much a family as well.

923
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 3: Is yelling cut the best feeling in the world. Well, action,

924
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 3: I think, but you you don't do action, do you?

925
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 3: Does someone else that does that isn't there?

926
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 16: So I like saying an action yeah, and the reason

927
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 16: why you got and action is because you got and

928
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:06,720
Speaker 16: and then the actors.

929
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 15: Then we're going on. But the cuts sometimes sometimes I

930
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:16,160
Speaker 15: call cuts. Sometimes it's the first day and all the casts.

931
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 16: They caught on pretty quickly. If I picked because everyone

932
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 16: has caps. That's something we do on productions. We all

933
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 16: get custom caps. And if I lift my cap up

934
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 16: and scratch my head, the actor said, we know we're

935
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 16: going again because Jordan's not happy.

936
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,359
Speaker 15: We're going again.

937
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,760
Speaker 7: And what came Speaking of the sect, what came first?

938
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 7: Was it a chair with director in on it, or

939
00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 7: that brilliant before Dawn jackets gone on? The rector producer?

940
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 16: Yeah, this was actually one of the executive producers got

941
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 16: me this, we got we had jackets and caps and

942
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 16: all that, and again it's making it kind of that

943
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 16: everybody's part of that community. But I did actually have

944
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 16: a director's chair on before Dawn, and I sat on

945
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,880
Speaker 16: it on the last day when the documentary, which is

946
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 16: also going to be coming out sorely they interviewed me

947
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 16: and that, But for the whole eight weeks on set,

948
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 16: I never sat in that chair.

949
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 4: In the trenches. I wanted to be.

950
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,120
Speaker 15: In there in the mardin.

951
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 16: But yeah, hey, look you'll see me sitting in it

952
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 16: in the documentary of Yeah, which is the making of

953
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 16: Before Dawn. And I just found out this morning that

954
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 16: it's been selected in the International Australian Film Festival.

955
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 3: I heard in the amount of time you were sitting

956
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 3: out there, you got nominated for something.

957
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 9: Yes.

958
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 16: Ben Scotford, he's the director of that, so he've pretty

959
00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 16: much followed us around on the first day with every

960
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 16: film set. Anything, everything that could go wrong went wrong

961
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:34,800
Speaker 16: on the first day and he came up to me,

962
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 16: so I want to make a documentary. Went go for it,

963
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 16: and honestly didn't think much at the time, and then

964
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 16: now I sit down and watch it and it just

965
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 16: shows you again the dedication of everyone involved to go, look,

966
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 16: this isn't just a film we're putting forward here. This

967
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 16: is an ANZAC film and that's you know, That's the

968
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 16: one takeaway from this is that this was a story

969
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,240
Speaker 16: that needed to be told and we're just so thankful

970
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,840
Speaker 16: that WA got behind it and the sponsors from across

971
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 16: Australia so that we were able to tell this remarkable

972
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 16: story on the silver screen.

973
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 4: So you and your team in the moment, yeah, exactly real.

974
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 3: John, Can I ask who your favorite directors are?

975
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 4: Do you have? Is there anyone that really, you know,

976
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: stands up for me?

977
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 15: Ron Howard?

978
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.

979
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 15: It's not because he's got the same hair color, not all,

980
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 15: but it was because it seems like everything that he

981
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 15: just is human writing.

982
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 16: He just knows how to tell story. And I've got

983
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:28,839
Speaker 16: to do the master class with him as well.

984
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:31,279
Speaker 15: Yeah, and that was unreal.

985
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:33,960
Speaker 16: But for him it's you know, it's just I don't

986
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,359
Speaker 16: know how he does it, you know, and learning his

987
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 16: craft and go okay, well how do you. Everybody can

988
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 16: say I love Steven Spielberg, Tino and all that, but

989
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 16: Ron Howard can just be brought in like with Solo,

990
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,360
Speaker 16: you know, he was brought in towards the end or

991
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 16: not towards the end, but he was born in second etctera. Yeah,

992
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 16: and he just said to the actor, go get acting classes,

993
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 16: you know, and he had that power to go, well, no,

994
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 16: I know what I'm doing here, and he's very much

995
00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 16: an actor's director, which is what I love doing. And

996
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 16: like with Before Dawn, being in those trenches, I don't

997
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 16: want to be sitting in a tent and you know,

998
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 16: telling him from afar what to do. I want to

999
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 16: be in there, feeling it and being one of those characters,

1000
00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 16: the footy coach on the bench, you know. Yeah, that's

1001
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 16: the best way to put it.

1002
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, he makes with Cuban good because I follow social.

1003
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 16: Yeah, that was quite a surreal moment because again, like

1004
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 16: going back to my childhood, I watched Lightning Jack Cane

1005
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 16: with Yeah, and he was in that, and yes, I

1006
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 16: got to meet him at the Yeah the Awards in

1007
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 16: Europe and got chatting with him and I'd mentioned Lightning

1008
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 16: Jack Cane and he was blown away, like he used to.

1009
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 15: I forgot I even did that film.

1010
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 16: But he did actually have great things to say about

1011
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,680
Speaker 16: Australia and he's like, you know, he said, I'd love

1012
00:50:43,719 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 16: to make a film in Australia again, and so yeah,

1013
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 16: through him, I'm chatting with him about a few other things.

1014
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 16: And yeah, because I'm off to work with a major

1015
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 16: studio shortly.

1016
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 4: And we say which major studio that yeah, it is

1017
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 4: at all. Yeah, that's majorist E Mojor Studios. It's that's amazing.

1018
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 3: So the reason we've been doing this series is because

1019
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,000
Speaker 3: there has never been a greater time for everyone who's

1020
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,520
Speaker 3: ever harbored any thoughts of in you know, just in

1021
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 3: any small or big way of being in the movies.

1022
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:19,360
Speaker 3: What's your one tip for people, especially you know, younger

1023
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 3: ones that are thinking, oh, what.

1024
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 16: Do I do? How do I put myself in the

1025
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 16: right place for me? It's making sure you surround yourself

1026
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 16: with good people. That's probably the biggest thing. So if

1027
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 16: you've got a good team behind you, like you know,

1028
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 16: obviously I'm the face of everything, but I'm only sitting

1029
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 16: here because of the people that are back to me

1030
00:51:36,239 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 16: to get here. So if you've got people that are

1031
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 16: supporting you and they're going to do that's that's what

1032
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:41,440
Speaker 16: you need.

1033
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 15: You need to build that team. But also just making stuff.

1034
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 16: So you know, even though between before Dawn Walt Disney

1035
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 16: and then I've got something else happening with Apple TV

1036
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 16: towards the end of next year, but we've got two

1037
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 16: feature films we're bringing to wa So we'll kick off

1038
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 16: pre production for that next year, but in between all

1039
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 16: that could be three or four weeks gap of nothing.

1040
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 16: It's just like go film something, you know Instagram, now

1041
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 16: film something, but be creative with it. Film you just

1042
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 16: don't know what's going to happen or who's going to

1043
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 16: see it. And it's from the short film not their Boots,

1044
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 16: that I did when I was thirteen or fourteen that

1045
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 16: I entered into some awards and then meet this guy

1046
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 16: named Jack Thompson. Of course at the time, I've watched

1047
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 16: you in that snowy river move, you know. But when

1048
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 16: you're that young, you don't realize that that small step

1049
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 16: could lead to something bigger. So it's just a matter

1050
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 16: of constantly making stuff.

1051
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,040
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1052
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 15: Always, you've always got to be working, You've got to

1053
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:33,800
Speaker 15: be networking.

1054
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,160
Speaker 16: And yeah, and like I said, you know, I'm just

1055
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 16: incredibly grateful and very lucky with the team that I've

1056
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 16: got that where we've got to now and with the

1057
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 16: next films that I'm bringing back to wa. You know,

1058
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 16: the one of the conditions was, well, thre's two conditions.

1059
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 16: That has to have community involvement, and the second condition

1060
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 16: is I want to have my team on it, because

1061
00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 16: you guys are investing and wanting to fund this film.

1062
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:55,799
Speaker 16: But you're not doing it based on me. You're doing

1063
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 16: it based on the entire film crew and cast that

1064
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 16: built family.

1065
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 7: And it may be a bit of a sit down

1066
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,280
Speaker 7: and be humble. Maybe industry too, Yeah, yeah.

1067
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 15: It can be.

1068
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 16: And in fact, the people that I get to speak

1069
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 16: to and I actually decide, yeah, I'm going to cast

1070
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 16: you or you know you're going to be on set,

1071
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 16: they're usually the ones that are really humble and to

1072
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 16: have a bit of a laugh and are in it

1073
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 16: because they love it, not in it because oh, we's

1074
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 16: this going to get me next?

1075
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 3: Well, Jordan are Your body of work already is incredibly impressive,

1076
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 3: and yet I feel like it's just the tip of

1077
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 3: the iceberg. Thank you so much for coming in for

1078
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 3: a chat today before Dawn is out on Netflix. Tonight's

1079
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,800
Speaker 3: slush tomorrow tomorrow. It's your weekend taking care of anyway.

1080
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 3: So I can't wait to see that.

1081
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 4: Thank you so much, no worries. Thanks for you telling

1082
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 4: me I'm looking forward to seeing that doc o too.

1083
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1084
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 1: He keep an eye out Cleary and lisas how to

1085
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: make it in way in.

1086
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:50,240
Speaker 2: This sun and make your start.

1087
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 3: As we continue to you know, it's a case of

1088
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 3: stick with me or make you a star. Looking at this,

1089
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 3: you know, the development of West Australia, sam as A.

1090
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,720
Speaker 4: You forget New York. New York is just York York.

1091
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 4: It's a new hub, isn't it. It is the new hub.

1092
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 3: And you've been at the center of the hub of

1093
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,760
Speaker 3: acting in WA for quite some time.

1094
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 9: Yeah, thirty odd years, very very odd years actually, when

1095
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,960
Speaker 9: I say it out loud, yeah, and I've done everything

1096
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 9: from you know, from stage plays in undercover areas in

1097
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,240
Speaker 9: primary schools to His Majesty's Theater, the Heath Ledger, film,

1098
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:28,280
Speaker 9: TV radio.

1099
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 4: I've done the full gamut, full gamut.

1100
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 9: Now I've actually my first ever professional gigs with Barking

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Speaker 9: Gecko Theater Company back in the early nineties and a

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Speaker 9: few months ago.

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Speaker 4: You've come from full circle now the director of Barking Gecko. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: wonderful man. Barking Gecko has been a stayer.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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Speaker 15: Five years, yeah, thirty five years.

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Speaker 9: And as I'm sure you guys know, we just recently

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Speaker 9: announced that we have merged with Awesome Festival. So now

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Speaker 9: Barking Gecko Arts we are presents the Awesome International Children's

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Speaker 9: Festival so we're even bigger, even stronger. This should allow

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Speaker 9: us to reach more kids and do more shows and

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Speaker 9: have more art.

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Speaker 3: It's not an accident marking Gecko has survived because of

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00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 3: some hard graft, hard work, talent. What is the answer

1115
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 3: the question what does it take to make it in

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00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 3: this industry?

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Speaker 9: Wow? Okay, that's a great question.

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Speaker 4: I think.

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Speaker 9: No, I think you've hit it on the grit and

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Speaker 9: determination is part of it. Yeah, there are as you

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Speaker 9: guys know, there are so many facets to the industry.

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Speaker 9: If we're talking about what it takes to be to

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Speaker 9: make it as an actor, I mean, it's so ethereal,

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Speaker 9: don't We don't know. We really don't know. If anyone

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Speaker 9: could say, well, this is the magic thing that makes

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Speaker 9: it happen, everyone to be going great, I'll just do that.

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Speaker 3: People talk about the factor. No one knows what it is,

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Speaker 3: but you've got it. Yeah, not many you know that

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Speaker 3: Heath Ledgers magic.

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Speaker 9: So that we'll just govaue and you can see it

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00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,960
Speaker 9: sometimes with people, that little twinkle in their eye, the

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Speaker 9: way they inhabit a role. Just go oh, look she

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00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,759
Speaker 9: was perfect in that. But she may have done a

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Speaker 9: really bad audition for the previous show and they went, yeah, no.

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Speaker 12: Not her.

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Speaker 9: It's very very it's really weird. And the industry, the

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Speaker 9: performing arts, is one of the few industries where they

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00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 9: can totally not give you the role because of how

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00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 9: you look. Go to another job interview. The color of

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00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 9: your hair doesn't matter if and your gender shouldn't matter.

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00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 9: Your skills on the on the paper, that's what counts.

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00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,160
Speaker 9: But if you go on audition for a role and

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00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:42,359
Speaker 9: they just go, boom, she's got it, we need her

1144
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:44,799
Speaker 9: what It doesn't matter if you've got a degree or not.

1145
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 9: It doesn't matter whether you've been to Whopper or not.

1146
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 9: It's whether or not you've got what they need just

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00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 9: for that particular role. And it depends on the director.

1148
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 9: If I'm directing, I'm looking for something might be different

1149
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 9: from when Andrew Gibbs is directing, and she's looking for

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00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 9: something to as well. And then every roll and then

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Speaker 9: what that, And so there's a big chunk of luck

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00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 9: in there. Of good friend Sam Murray, she was auditioning

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00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 9: for a film and she just wasn't feeling it.

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00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:13,800
Speaker 4: She was at work, she was like so many other actors.

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00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 9: She was making coffee and hearing dishes and her friend

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00:57:17,720 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 9: Turner and said, only you supposed to be somewhere and

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00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 9: she's like, what, oh the audition and had totally spaced

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Speaker 9: it so was not prepared.

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Speaker 4: Didn't gust yourself up.

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Speaker 9: She basically before she even got to the audition, She's like,

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Speaker 9: I'm not getting this. There's no way I'm getting this.

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Speaker 9: I'm not. I've still got you know, mocker on my

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Speaker 9: T shirt. Went in there, didn't give a crap, did

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Speaker 9: the audition, walked out, went back to her shift, never

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Speaker 9: thought anything of it.

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Speaker 4: A week later, her.

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Speaker 9: Agent calls and goes, so, Harvey, ca, I tell loved

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Speaker 9: what you did and you're in the film.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 9: She was like, what, So I just don't have to

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Speaker 9: care and assume I don't have it. And on that date,

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Speaker 9: on that particular day, it might have been the magic

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Speaker 9: to it. And that might have been where we don't know,

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Speaker 9: trying too hard or who knows how to impress? Who knows?

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Speaker 3: It's not for the fainthearted, is it. I mean, let's

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Speaker 3: be real, you've got to have a fairly thick skin.

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Speaker 4: You really do.

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Speaker 9: I mean, any performative industry where you can be judged

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Speaker 9: by the populace guaranteed thirty percent of people are going

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Speaker 9: to hate you.

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Speaker 4: Of course, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 9: They're going to and you have to go, yeah, that's fine,

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00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 9: You're allowed to hate me. That's okay. You do have

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Speaker 9: to have a thick skin in with auditioning. When I

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00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 9: was an actor and I still am, my rule was

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Speaker 9: rule of ten. You do ten auditions and you might

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Speaker 9: get a callback on one, okay, So you have to

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00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 9: be to fail nine times if you're not prepared to fail,

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Speaker 9: and if you take it personally, after nine times of

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00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,880
Speaker 9: personal you didn't get it, it's going to hurt. You

1191
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 9: know you're going to feel. So if you go none,

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Speaker 9: I didn't get that one's fine, I'm close to my tent.

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Speaker 9: And then when you get one, gig rolled up to

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Speaker 9: the audition. So you've got to see that as a

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Speaker 9: successful step already. Absolutely top if you get the wrong

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Speaker 9: exactly And I had one active friend of mine sat oh.

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Speaker 9: The work is auditioning. When you get the role, that's

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Speaker 9: what you do for love and they pay you. But

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Speaker 9: work is learning stuff for a show that you never

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Speaker 9: end up getting on and all of that. But look

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Speaker 9: in Perth, we are we are doing far more stuff

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Speaker 9: here now and so we are to Yeah and Awesome

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Speaker 9: is putting on a lot of shows and they always

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Speaker 9: back w a first bucking Gecko. Our new thing is

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Speaker 9: West Australian First, where possible gender equality on our shows.

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Speaker 9: West Australian Artists First. And that's how we're rolling out.

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Speaker 9: And that means we will have some people from the East,

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Speaker 9: but we got enough talent here. We've got so much talent.

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Speaker 3: We've got the best training school in the Southern Hemisphere.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Whopper is just I've always wanted to bring

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Speaker 3: out a bumper sticker that says, Whopper, they go in good,

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Speaker 3: they come out the world the number of people that

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Speaker 3: go to Nither while they're trying to or any of

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Speaker 3: the other ones over East while they're trying to get

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Speaker 3: to the Great Whopper. But you know, I mean, if

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Speaker 3: you're really, really keen, you probably want to start even earlier.

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Speaker 3: What local theater? Local theater groups are they a thing

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Speaker 3: that you can get involved in.

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Speaker 9: I mean I didn't go to Whopper. I taught it.

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Speaker 9: I get in and looking back at my young self,

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't have let me in either. I didn't prepare

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01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 9: well enough. You know, I was long and lanky, I

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01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 9: didn't quite fit in the Neighbours model, which at the

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01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 9: time I believe had it very much. You've got to

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01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 9: be this height, you've got to be blonde, and you've

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Speaker 9: got to beautiful. And they've thrown that out the classes.

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01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 9: Now Whopper, they've realized that diversity is very much something

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01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 9: we have to do, and they're they're really great. I

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01:00:45,360 --> 01:00:48,840
Speaker 9: cannot speak highly enough of Whopper. But I went and

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01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 9: I trod the boards in the local community theater to

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01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 9: begin with, and then I did the independent theater. I

1232
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 9: did the blue room route and I just worked. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I just did show after show after show, and I

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01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,919
Speaker 9: was bartend of the whole time, trying to get paid

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Speaker 9: along the way. And yeah, and I made a full

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01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 9: time professional career for twenty five years.

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Speaker 7: It's amazing because I went with my son to a

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01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 7: joem show on the weekend, Yeah, Jones By Theater, and

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01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 7: it was so much fun. Now these people aren't getting paid,

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01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 7: but they're loving their craft. And the people in the

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Speaker 7: crowder said the lest there's only thirty odd seats in

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01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 7: that theater, but the people in the next two productions,

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01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 7: and the mates of the people on stage cheering and

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01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 7: joining in and it was just a joy.

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01:01:26,120 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 12: To be there.

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01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:26,720
Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 9: And Joam is a really good example of people doing

1248
01:01:29,720 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 9: art for the sake of doing art and to make

1249
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:33,480
Speaker 9: themselves happy.

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01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 4: Yes, and to be creative.

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01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 9: And I think everybody needs a creative outlet in some way,

1252
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 9: whether it's you know, you glue pop sticks together and

1253
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 9: make wind shoones. I think that's legitimate mental health, having

1254
01:01:44,840 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 9: some spot of creativity. If you had to look at

1255
01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 9: a piece of art, whether it a poem or a

1256
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 9: sculpture or a piece of theater, and go my brain,

1257
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Speaker 9: my heart went into that.

1258
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I built that.

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01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, And I think and I don't know if you

1260
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,439
Speaker 9: did same when you listen back to your radio show.

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Speaker 9: You can go a little bit of pride in that.

1262
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:03,840
Speaker 4: But it's a solid I.

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01:02:03,840 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 3: Mean, it's a solid base for anything else in life too,

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Speaker 3: especially when you're considering theater and you are very big

1265
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,920
Speaker 3: with improv. And I've always said improv sorts separates the

1266
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 3: men from the boys.

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Speaker 4: And there's a lot thing to go. It's one thing

1268
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 4: to go into something with a script.

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01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 3: It's another thing to go in with a word or

1270
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 3: an idea or something and then away you go, see.

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Speaker 4: I've done it from dying up there exactly, and that's

1272
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,320
Speaker 4: going to set you up for your job, interviews, life,

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01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 4: just life in general.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:02:33,120 --> 01:02:36,560
Speaker 9: Absolutely, any kind of creativity helps, I think, expand the

1276
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 9: mind and teaches people to attack a problem from a

1277
01:02:41,320 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 9: different point of view. And AI isn't doing that. No,

1278
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,600
Speaker 9: humans are doing that. And human creativity is one of

1279
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,680
Speaker 9: those things that AI is trying to do or we're

1280
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,320
Speaker 9: trying to do with a I'm not quite sure where

1281
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 9: those lines are, but it's one thing that will always

1282
01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 9: be something that humans will will be better at in

1283
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 9: my opinion. Creativity, that problem solving and any kind of

1284
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 9: art form you can do.

1285
01:03:06,080 --> 01:03:07,760
Speaker 3: You No, I was just going to say the great

1286
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 3: thing about this industry becoming such a big thing in

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01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 3: w ways. It's not just treading the boards or in

1288
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 3: front of the camera either. There's so many great ways

1289
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 3: to you have a career around around it.

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01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 9: Behind the scenes, stage, everybody on stage, you see there's

1291
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,560
Speaker 9: three or four people backstage. When you go into film

1292
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 9: and TV, you multiply that by ten.

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Speaker 5: Yes.

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01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:34,439
Speaker 9: Yeah, so that actor she's up there doing a fantastic job.

1295
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 9: But first she was in the in the hair and

1296
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 9: makeup trailer. Before that, she was in costuming, and before

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01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 9: that she was with a third ad, and before that

1298
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 9: she was with craft Services, and so just there's this

1299
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 9: multitude of people who are all creating something beautiful, something

1300
01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 9: worthwhile watching. In most cases, that enhances the whole of

1301
01:03:53,720 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 9: our community, our cultural conversation, our society, and is making

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01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,680
Speaker 9: wa bigger and stronger, I think culturally and artistically.

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Speaker 4: As you mentioned catering, because that's where I'd be. It's

1304
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 4: hard to get you.

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01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:15,680
Speaker 9: Yeah, Look, if you don't get catering right on a

1306
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 9: film shoot, the whole thing can fall apart. I want

1307
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 9: that because for the next two hours post lunch, all

1308
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,960
Speaker 9: the crews and the cast are talking about when the

1309
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 9: cameras aren't rolling, is how good lunch was.

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Speaker 4: All they're bitching about it.

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Speaker 9: And if they're if they're doing ten hour days and

1312
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 9: they haven't been fed, oh they are angry and they're

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01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:37,920
Speaker 9: not looking forward to the next one. And if somebody

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Speaker 9: god for a bid, doesn't like it and has to

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Speaker 9: leave the set to go and get lunch, yes, then all.

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Speaker 4: Kinds of problems can happen. And where is it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, way is it someway? You can't correct me if

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Speaker 7: I'm wrong. I'm pretty sure I sat at Kingspark and

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Speaker 7: watched you in a Shakespeare in the Park one night.

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Speaker 7: Does that sound right? Would you have done that in

1321
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:59,880
Speaker 7: your career? I did about ten seasons. Yeah, so surprised

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01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 7: you didn't do it only one reason. So that night

1323
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Speaker 7: you're talking about getting the role. But it was it

1324
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 7: was like the It was like a standing ovation on

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Speaker 7: the lawn.

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Speaker 11: You know.

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01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,880
Speaker 7: People appreciated the humor and the production so much, so

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Speaker 7: you must have loved doing that.

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Speaker 9: I absolutely loved doing that, and that was one of

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01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,160
Speaker 9: those training grounds that we've lost it a little bit

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01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 9: for the Shakespeare in the Park because what WA has

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01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 9: realized is that that King's Park is much a beautiful

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Speaker 9: place and we wear an outdoor people, so we want

1334
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 9: to go and see stuff outdoors. So you know, you know,

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01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 9: if Jack Johnson's coming to play, he's going to play

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Speaker 9: in the park, of course, because why not.

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Speaker 4: This is magnificent.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, and he can play two nights and the King's

1339
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 9: Park will make more money than they will than three

1340
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 9: months of Shakespeare in the Park.

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Speaker 4: But that's okay. We'll find other ways. We've got lots

1342
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Speaker 4: of beautiful theaters.

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Speaker 9: It was great doing Shakespeare in the Park when you're

1344
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 9: projecting at the bottom of a hill up to the

1345
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 9: top of a hill, five six hundred people with the

1346
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:05,439
Speaker 9: wind blowing directly across you. So your voice. Yeah, Well,

1347
01:06:05,480 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 9: the party boat goes by, and the kooka bar just

1348
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,320
Speaker 9: stole someone's piece of chicken. Like to hold an audience

1349
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 9: with all of that going on, said as it was

1350
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 9: very very regular.

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Speaker 3: Well for anyone, doesn't matter how old they are, thinking,

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01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:25,560
Speaker 3: I would like to take advantage of what's happening in

1353
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 3: this this industry and get involved. What would you suggest

1354
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:31,200
Speaker 3: is the one place they start? I mean, you know,

1355
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 3: we talk about getting involved with community theater groups, but

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01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 3: where do they start?

1357
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 4: What do they google? What are they looking up to?

1358
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 4: A really rate question. Where do you look? Do you just

1359
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:45,680
Speaker 4: google local theater? Yeah?

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Speaker 9: I mean there are there are a few out there,

1361
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 9: and they need people, they want people.

1362
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 4: They are building a community like Joan is.

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01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,320
Speaker 9: They have their group of people and they are always

1364
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 9: welcoming and it's about putting it on. And you might

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01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,560
Speaker 9: I just want to be involved, but I don't like

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01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:05,080
Speaker 9: being on stage and most people don't like being on stage.

1367
01:07:05,320 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 4: So what I want to do is sell tickets.

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01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 9: No great in front of house and somebody smiles and

1369
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 9: takes your ticket and it's part of that way.

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01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 4: Or maybe you do want to be on stage.

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01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 9: Great, you get up there, you audition, You start with

1372
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 9: a small part, they go, oh, yeah, he's not bad.

1373
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,000
Speaker 9: The next part you get a little bit bigger, and

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01:07:22,040 --> 01:07:24,120
Speaker 9: before you know it, it goes on and on and on.

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01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 4: Yes, start there.

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Speaker 9: Classes I think are really good thing for people to

1377
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 9: do because you can try something out. If you ever

1378
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 9: want to do stand up comedy, try stand up comedy class.

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01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:37,160
Speaker 9: You may hate it, but you tried it. You were

1380
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:40,160
Speaker 9: brave enough. That's great. You know, if you want to

1381
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 9: go painting, try watercolors for a little while. Any bit

1382
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,120
Speaker 9: of creativity keeps the heart and the soul and the

1383
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 9: mind active in a very different way.

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Speaker 11: Yeah.

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01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 9: I don't know who you're, where you are, and where

1386
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 9: your community is, but just have a look for their

1387
01:07:55,360 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 9: theater and go along and see a show.

1388
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,360
Speaker 4: Yes, go along and see a show because that network.

1389
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 4: If you love.

1390
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 7: Class with any murder monks, she told me you'd be

1391
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 7: good for sci fi fi fi. With your height and

1392
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:13,680
Speaker 7: your voice, you'd be good for sci fi.

1393
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 9: I mean, I'm not going to disagree with any murder

1394
01:08:15,640 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 9: monks starting to make a sci fi movie. You're in

1395
01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,280
Speaker 9: it absolutely, the gig is the freak.

1396
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 3: All right, Well, this is all good information. And what's

1397
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:27,920
Speaker 3: coming up at the Barking Gecko Theater.

1398
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Speaker 9: Forward to theater. We've got House, which is a remount.

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01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 9: You may have seen House before. It's an incredibly beautiful show.

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01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,120
Speaker 9: We're running out at the Octagon Theater at u w

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Speaker 9: A that starts November. Sometimes checking on.

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Speaker 3: I love anything that you talking about outdoor stuff that.

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01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 4: The Octagon. Yeah, it's beautiful.

1404
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,400
Speaker 9: And then we've got shows on next year which I'll

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01:08:50,439 --> 01:08:51,280
Speaker 9: let you know next year.

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01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:57,760
Speaker 3: Keep in touch to long Yes, fantastic, Thanks for coming in,

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01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:58,480
Speaker 3: No worry.

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01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 17: To make it in the wall, make your start, so

1409
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,880
Speaker 17: continuing our series, sticking with me or make your starff

1410
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,560
Speaker 17: The West is the place right now to be famous

1411
01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:16,120
Speaker 17: and someone who has got themselves to just that position.

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01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 3: Lake Bovell is a TV and film unit manager. Hello

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01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 3: late he welcome, Hello Hi So Lake.

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Speaker 4: What is a unit manager?

1415
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 11: Well, a unit manager is the person that manages the

1416
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 11: unit for a film and TV production, and a unit

1417
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:35,400
Speaker 11: is so there's all the trucks like the mini village

1418
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 11: that travels alongside set We've got the costume trucks, the

1419
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 11: hair and makeup trucks, the generatorout power water, the catering area,

1420
01:09:46,160 --> 01:09:48,960
Speaker 11: the supplier truck, the green rooms. All of that is

1421
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,599
Speaker 11: called a unit and that travels alongside set to service

1422
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:56,160
Speaker 11: the set. So it's a place where everyone can rest off,

1423
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 11: get their food, snacks, etcetera, etcetera. Yeah, we sort of

1424
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:05,040
Speaker 11: look after the crew and cast and yeah, so I

1425
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:07,960
Speaker 11: take care of all of that stuff with the team.

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01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 11: Of course, I.

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01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 7: Would say there would be because there's a bigger responsibility.

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01:10:12,479 --> 01:10:14,439
Speaker 4: It's quite the wrangling, right.

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01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:17,639
Speaker 11: Yes, Yeah, it is quite a big footprint. It changes

1430
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,160
Speaker 11: every day where we are, the locations like the park

1431
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:24,040
Speaker 11: up the ground that we're on, the trees over here.

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01:10:24,120 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 11: We have to consider all of this stuff when we

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01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,240
Speaker 11: choose the location for the unit, and then the councils

1434
01:10:29,280 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 11: that we're in and all of those like logistical things.

1435
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 11: Yeah that's in my brain.

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01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, I betcha Yeah, Like I said, even changing.

1437
01:10:37,800 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 7: So how did you get into this kind of work.

1438
01:10:39,800 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 11: I have been doing festivals and events for probably fifteen years,

1439
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:48,000
Speaker 11: and I then sort of skipped my toe into the

1440
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 11: comedy world and have done a lot of stage managing

1441
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 11: and stuff. A few years ago, Sasha Baron Colin was

1442
01:10:55,120 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 11: in Perth. I don't know if you guys heard about that. Yeah, yeah,

1443
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:03,280
Speaker 11: he was Santo and by his Sydney team and because

1444
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 11: they couldn't travel over and they're like, who do we

1445
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,439
Speaker 11: know in perse that could deal with this, Let's send

1446
01:11:07,479 --> 01:11:11,400
Speaker 11: him to Like, yeah, I did some stuff with him.

1447
01:11:11,439 --> 01:11:15,240
Speaker 11: I produced and managed and coordinated everything for him that

1448
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:17,519
Speaker 11: was happening in Perth. And through that we were doing

1449
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:20,519
Speaker 11: some live stage shows and we had to do some

1450
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:25,719
Speaker 11: filming so you could change costumes between his characters, between

1451
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:30,719
Speaker 11: Alergy and Boran. So I met some film people through

1452
01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 11: that we hired them to do the little interstitials. And

1453
01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:38,280
Speaker 11: then yeah, they called me up probably four months later

1454
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 11: and we're like, hey, COVID's happening and we need someone

1455
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 11: to be a COVID coordinator. No one's done this job

1456
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 11: in Wa before, but we reckon.

1457
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:47,760
Speaker 4: You could do it.

1458
01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 11: So I was invited in as a COVID coordinator right

1459
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:57,719
Speaker 11: and then my now colleague Slash Mentor Mike Montague, who

1460
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 11: is the old school unit manager of Western Australia, it

1461
01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 11: was like, with all your skills are you in unit?

1462
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,280
Speaker 4: And I was like, what's unit.

1463
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,880
Speaker 11: And yeah, then I just I was on the next

1464
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 11: job with him and it's my dream job I did

1465
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 11: not existed, and I love every second of it.

1466
01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 3: Well, it sounds like coordinate is the key word, because

1467
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,479
Speaker 3: it sounds like if you don't have everything coordinated and

1468
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,720
Speaker 3: ready to go where the cast and song gets there,

1469
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 3: the whole thing's going to fall over.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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01:12:28,040 --> 01:12:30,879
Speaker 11: We like the glue of the operation really, Like obviously

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01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 11: it's a team that's a production officers and their first

1473
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,559
Speaker 11: day DS and everyone does scheduling. Everyone's integral to the operation.

1474
01:12:37,720 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 11: It's amazing. How like, well oil the machine is so

1475
01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:43,520
Speaker 11: I'm just one little.

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01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:43,720
Speaker 5: Part of it.

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01:12:44,040 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 11: Yeah. Yeah, it's sort of like setting up a festival

1478
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 11: every day and then packing down festival and moving to

1479
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,160
Speaker 11: another location doing the same thing.

1480
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:51,679
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1481
01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 11: Love communication, coordination, amazing.

1482
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, So what would an average workday be like long?

1483
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:00,680
Speaker 4: I guess no?

1484
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 18: Yeah.

1485
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1486
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,760
Speaker 11: We usually if we're moving locations, we'll start maybe three

1487
01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 11: hours before step on, which is when they's costume and

1488
01:13:12,080 --> 01:13:16,200
Speaker 11: make up people arrive to prepare for the past when

1489
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 11: they arrive, so we'll drive the truck to a new location,

1490
01:13:19,120 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 11: set up everything.

1491
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,360
Speaker 12: Very physical work, a lot.

1492
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,880
Speaker 11: Of planning goes into it before we actually land at

1493
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:29,839
Speaker 11: the location. And then yeah, so get everything ready. Everyone arrives,

1494
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:31,720
Speaker 11: and that's sort of when we can sort of take

1495
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 11: a breath, and then lunch, breakfast happens, and then lunch,

1496
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,080
Speaker 11: and then then I goes to set and then lunch

1497
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 11: and then yeah, the last sort of three or four

1498
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,280
Speaker 11: hours of the day filming, and then we start to

1499
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 11: pat down and get everything ready to move to the

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Speaker 11: next location. So the days are often maybe twelve hours.

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01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:58,439
Speaker 7: Last out parallels with the music industry, you know, with

1502
01:13:58,520 --> 01:13:59,879
Speaker 7: a whole circus moving from.

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01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 4: Play the place. Ye yeah, exactly, Like.

1504
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 7: I'm sure it's just part of the job dealing with talent,

1505
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:11,880
Speaker 7: but what about egotistical talent or cast members that say

1506
01:14:11,880 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 7: there's the acusing and the trailers, not that they can't

1507
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 7: find it.

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01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:15,840
Speaker 4: What do you do?

1509
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,920
Speaker 11: You know, I haven't come across that at all.

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01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 12: Ye w A.

1511
01:14:22,360 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 4: Everyone we all work together.

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01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:27,719
Speaker 11: Usually there's a few crew members that come in from

1513
01:14:27,800 --> 01:14:31,360
Speaker 11: Sydney and a lot of actors come from all over Australia.

1514
01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,960
Speaker 11: But in w A the industry is so small and

1515
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,519
Speaker 11: so nice, Like if you're a jerk, you just don't

1516
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:42,719
Speaker 11: get hired again. Yeah, it's actually amazing. I haven't knocked

1517
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,720
Speaker 11: off anyone that that in life.

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01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:50,719
Speaker 3: The industry is getting bigger though, by the by the moment.

1519
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,120
Speaker 4: What are some of the projects that you've worked on recently.

1520
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:56,200
Speaker 4: I've just come off Scrubland season two.

1521
01:14:57,920 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 11: And now I'm.

1522
01:14:59,240 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 4: Looking forward to that.

1523
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:05,240
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that should be good. Yep,

1524
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 11: yeah she is, Yeah, she is brilliant. And now we

1525
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:13,759
Speaker 11: are on to the twelve season three.

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01:15:14,120 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 4: Oh yes, that's here as well. Seems so quick you

1527
01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:19,880
Speaker 4: just finished watching the second one.

1528
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:22,719
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, yeah, well it takes six to eight months

1529
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 11: to come out.

1530
01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:24,599
Speaker 12: Yeah.

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01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,639
Speaker 3: At the same time, you know, like it's it's sort

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Speaker 3: of York really was the catalyst that got us talking

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01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 3: about this and how w Way is becoming such an

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01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 3: attractive place to film in because York.

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Speaker 4: I think it was Craig Sylvie.

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Speaker 3: You know, the author of rud He described it as

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01:15:43,600 --> 01:15:45,240
Speaker 3: seamlessly cinematic.

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Speaker 11: Oh yeah, it's stunning.

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01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:47,840
Speaker 12: Yeah.

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01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:51,400
Speaker 11: So yeah, yeah with all the I guess this season

1541
01:15:51,439 --> 01:15:53,439
Speaker 11: is changing as well. You get a lot of variety

1542
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 11: out there.

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Speaker 4: And it's so close to her. Yeah, there's just a

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Speaker 4: lot of.

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Speaker 11: Benefits for filming regionally.

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Speaker 12: Plan perf.

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Speaker 7: Yep, you talk about the importance of your job and

1548
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 7: when you were saying, oh, you used a small part

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01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 7: of it, but you're a bit like you. I've been

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01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:08,960
Speaker 7: working with directors like Stevie Cruz Martin. I mean you're

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01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 7: so integral to everything going right, aren't you.

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01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:12,839
Speaker 11: Yeah, I love Stevie.

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01:16:13,040 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,920
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's just yeah, I don't know how to describe it.

1555
01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:20,679
Speaker 11: Our job so multifaceted. Yeah, it's all about communication. Really,

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01:16:20,840 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 11: thank you for everyone on the same page.

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01:16:22,760 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I need to detail the fact that you said,

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01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 3: I've just come off working on Scrublands and now we're

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01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 3: onto the twelve season three speaks to obviously both your

1560
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:37,120
Speaker 3: value in the industry as in charge of the unit,

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01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:40,240
Speaker 3: but also it speaks to just how much is happening here.

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01:16:40,720 --> 01:16:43,439
Speaker 3: What is your advice for anyone who wants to get

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01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:45,000
Speaker 3: into the industry.

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01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 11: Keep yourself available out there, talking to people a lot

1565
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 11: of it for you know, but you get to know

1566
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:56,080
Speaker 11: the people by doing the study and being in the

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01:16:56,120 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 11: right courses and being in the right workshops for the available.

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01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 11: So yeah, it's just talking to people, really having the

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01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 11: passion looking looking for your own opportunities and yeah, being

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01:17:10,040 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 11: a nice.

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Speaker 4: Person, help help you. That is advice for life. Absolutely

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01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 4: whatever you're doing. Like, we now know what a unit

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01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:18,439
Speaker 4: manager is.

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01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 7: But we were talking yesterday a lot of filmmaking jargon

1575
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,120
Speaker 7: running through gaffers and dollies and groups.

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01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 4: But what the hell is the best boy?

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01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 11: Our best boy is old language to I see so right?

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01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:35,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to the bests anymore.

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01:17:36,439 --> 01:17:37,480
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's getting.

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01:17:37,160 --> 01:17:46,360
Speaker 4: Phased down, doesn't do I see? Well? Lake, give my

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01:17:46,439 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 4: love to Sam Neil. That's going to work for you.

1582
01:17:52,600 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 3: And thanks so much for joining us to talk about

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01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 3: what you do and how you got into it.

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01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 4: Thank you you too.

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Speaker 1: More more Lisa, More podcasts soon, Cleary and Lisa's how

1586
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 1: It's a major in Wait, good new Sun, I'll make your.

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01:18:12,600 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 3: Start, continuing our series about getting into the ever burgeoning

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01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,960
Speaker 3: movie biz that w Way is pulsing with at the moment.

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Speaker 3: Our guest today is Ben Callman, who is a film

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01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:29,719
Speaker 3: and TV audio and sound person, a boom operator. Good morning, Ben,

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01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 3: Good morning you holding the big furry thing just out

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01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 3: of shot?

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Speaker 4: Sorry, that's me.

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Speaker 14: Absolutely yeah, telescopic pole, the big.

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01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:39,880
Speaker 4: Fing one of the many things. I'm sure, what exactly

1596
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:40,280
Speaker 4: is it.

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Speaker 13: That you do?

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Speaker 14: Well, I'm a boom operator. So first and foremost, I

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01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,479
Speaker 14: operate a boom pole to a telescopic pole, and that

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01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:51,000
Speaker 14: allows me to extend it with a microphone on the

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Speaker 14: end and then hold it above actors on screen moving

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01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 14: around in shot to follow the dialogue that moves around

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01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 14: a table or a kitchen or wherever we're at.

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01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:02,400
Speaker 4: On top of that, I do.

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01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:09,080
Speaker 14: I had a Lavalier Mapel microphone on actors attaching it

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01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:14,400
Speaker 14: to their costumes. Yes, putting it in their hair sometimes, yes,

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01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 14: you may see them and shows you'll you see a

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01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,479
Speaker 14: little thing poking out the bottom of a tie, that

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01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:20,439
Speaker 14: ubbly alreadio microphone.

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01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:22,760
Speaker 3: I'm on a Christmas card basis with anyone who's ever

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01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,680
Speaker 3: had to attach one, because you know they've got to

1612
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 3: slide it down the back of the top.

1613
01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 4: Absolutely, yes, I do.

1614
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:28,679
Speaker 12: We get up close and personal.

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01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 4: A bit of a cool building goes along with apologetic.

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01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:36,360
Speaker 7: Absolutely, you have to be been is one of the

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01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,639
Speaker 7: greatest fears with that big fuzzy thing you're talking about,

1618
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 7: getting it in shot and getting told.

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01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 12: Off, you know, certainly once once a day is sort

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01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:46,519
Speaker 12: of my my aim. If you're not, if you're not

1621
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,479
Speaker 12: putting it to shot, you're not doing good enough job

1622
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 12: by times, I think, but.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, that's certainly the goal is to keep it out.

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01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,640
Speaker 4: So how did you get into film and television?

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01:19:57,680 --> 01:19:59,040
Speaker 14: Well, it was a little bit of a crossing road,

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01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:00,720
Speaker 14: across roads in my life. I didn't really know what

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01:20:00,760 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 14: I wanted to do, and I sort of started asking

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01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 14: myself what I actually like and I was like probably

1629
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,799
Speaker 14: twenty two thirty one now.

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Speaker 5: And.

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01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 14: You know, a film, film and TV came up because

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01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,800
Speaker 14: all I did with my spare time, and I went

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01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,559
Speaker 14: to Tafe in the end for a couple of years

1634
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:19,759
Speaker 14: and sort of landed a gig straight out of Tafe.

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01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 14: And that's kind of all she wrote. It was eight years.

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01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,880
Speaker 14: It's been eight years now since I finished, and loving it.

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Speaker 7: It's an impressive list of work, maw, can you drop

1638
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 7: a few names for us, so at least some of

1639
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 7: the work is that.

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01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 4: You're quite incredible.

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01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:31,439
Speaker 12: Sure.

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01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 14: I mean, I've been quite lucky in that I've had

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01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:35,599
Speaker 14: a lot of work here in wa and we've had

1644
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,760
Speaker 14: some great cast and crew come through. So it's been

1645
01:20:37,800 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 14: a lot of really fascinating, interesting people like Derek Banner,

1646
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 14: Aaron Peterson, to name.

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01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 12: A couple of people who've come here. But also I've

1648
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:46,240
Speaker 12: done a.

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01:20:46,200 --> 01:20:48,080
Speaker 14: Little bit of work over in Sydney as well, taking

1650
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,479
Speaker 14: myself out there on my own dime and working on

1651
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,880
Speaker 14: most recently Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes. Right, wow,

1652
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:57,800
Speaker 14: I think maybe just finishing up it's theatrical release now

1653
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 14: as well as anyone but you, which is a bit

1654
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 14: of a global meme phenomenon for a while there. Yeah,

1655
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 14: Quickney Sweeney, Glen Powell to them a couple and I

1656
01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 14: did a little picked up a couple of days on

1657
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 14: Full Guy as well. So Ryan Godlin, Emily Blunt.

1658
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 4: That's pretty cool. That's awesome. And you're working on the

1659
01:21:14,520 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 4: third installment of the.

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01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 14: Twelve now absolutely, Oh dear Sam Neil, he's really great

1661
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:21,719
Speaker 14: and so far as going.

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01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:26,280
Speaker 3: Pretty well, yeah, sound must come with so many challenges

1663
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:30,919
Speaker 3: because you cannot control the thing that's going to fly over.

1664
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 4: Drive paths, just make a general clang of some sort.

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01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:39,120
Speaker 14: Absolutely, we try our best, you know, especially other departments

1666
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:40,880
Speaker 14: do what they can for us, you know, parking the

1667
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:44,759
Speaker 14: generator further away, having quite a props in the scene

1668
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:49,200
Speaker 14: that they use, you know, camera fans turning off when

1669
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:50,200
Speaker 14: we hit records.

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01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 12: So we do what we do our best, and so

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01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:53,040
Speaker 12: to other people.

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01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 14: Yeah, as you said, you can't always control it, and

1673
01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:58,639
Speaker 14: you know, sometimes they pick a locations needs to flight pass,

1674
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 14: you know out in the middle one you're watching the

1675
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,240
Speaker 14: flight radar every five minutes, you know, went through a

1676
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 14: window you.

1677
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:05,600
Speaker 4: Get to go.

1678
01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 7: And also catering have to do the right thing and

1679
01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,400
Speaker 7: not have such chewy food you might then.

1680
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 4: Tu Right, do you ever get to your client on

1681
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:15,080
Speaker 4: the set?

1682
01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 12: You know, I've definitely done it many funds when people

1683
01:22:18,439 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 12: don't get a message, but you know that's not really

1684
01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:25,719
Speaker 12: my job. Actually, that's more of an instant director stepping

1685
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:26,280
Speaker 12: on their toes.

1686
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,439
Speaker 4: You know, I don't want to do that. Did you

1687
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 4: meet Nicholas Cage and work with him on the Surfer

1688
01:22:30,439 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 4: down South?

1689
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:31,680
Speaker 12: I did a couple of.

1690
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:33,880
Speaker 14: Weeks on that, Yeah, taking over for a friend and

1691
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:36,719
Speaker 14: met him very briefly. He's a man of few words,

1692
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:37,639
Speaker 14: very private man.

1693
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,880
Speaker 12: Trying not to bother them. But that was pretty cool

1694
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 12: shooting and I think it's not out yet, but that'll

1695
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 12: be a very very fun film to watch.

1696
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Speaker 9: I think.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we've been doing this ben because of the you know,

1698
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:52,439
Speaker 3: we've got the Malaga studios being built at the moment,

1699
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:57,520
Speaker 3: We've got so many different groups realizing what great locations

1700
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:01,160
Speaker 3: w A has and a lot of stuff is really growing.

1701
01:23:01,600 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 3: You must be thrilled at how WA is reaching new

1702
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,599
Speaker 3: heights as the place to be at the moment.

1703
01:23:08,920 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 14: Absolutely. I mean when I started eight years ago, the

1704
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 14: only studio we've really had that was being utilized was

1705
01:23:15,080 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 14: the ABC Studios in these perth and for the most

1706
01:23:18,240 --> 01:23:20,040
Speaker 14: part it was going under utilized. There's only really been

1707
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 14: a handful of productions that have come through that have

1708
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:23,680
Speaker 14: used it. When you know, I'm sure that we'd have

1709
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 14: loved to have had a bigger budget or a scripts

1710
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:28,760
Speaker 14: that required it. But the best thing about these new

1711
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,520
Speaker 14: studios coming up is that they're going to be incentivizing

1712
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 14: more productions to come here on top of what we

1713
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 14: already do. So that extra bit of funding will go

1714
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,840
Speaker 14: a long way with bringing in bigger and better films,

1715
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:41,760
Speaker 14: bigger and better TV shows, which you'll only add to

1716
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,160
Speaker 14: more crew getting hired, more cast getting hired locally, which

1717
01:23:45,160 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 14: will just inject a bit bit of money into the

1718
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 14: industry here and outside the industry even as well.

1719
01:23:50,520 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 7: Ben, you know how you said you stopped me and

1720
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,400
Speaker 7: so what do I really like? Are the times on

1721
01:23:53,439 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 7: set you're holding that boom up there, or you're doing

1722
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 7: whatever in your part of your job, and you go,

1723
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:58,680
Speaker 7: I cannot believe on doing this?

1724
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 4: How good? Is this? Pretty great?

1725
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 9: You know?

1726
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 14: The only times I've ever asked that is when it's

1727
01:24:03,880 --> 01:24:06,439
Speaker 14: been something so bizarre and weird that I couldn't believe

1728
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 14: I was filming it. I feel like one of the

1729
01:24:08,120 --> 01:24:11,519
Speaker 14: ones that earliest in my memory was twenty eighteen. Were

1730
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:13,640
Speaker 14: shooting a film called Naked Wonder. I think it's been

1731
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:17,400
Speaker 14: renamed now, but yeah, we're filming a scene where a

1732
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,680
Speaker 14: guy gets stung by jellyfish and he is, you know,

1733
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:22,760
Speaker 14: doing a certain acts to try and relieve the pain

1734
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:25,360
Speaker 14: on himself, and I did think, what the hell am

1735
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 14: I doing?

1736
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 3: But also there must be times where you're holding that

1737
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:33,200
Speaker 3: thing aloft, thinking would you get it in this take?

1738
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:34,640
Speaker 4: My arm is killing me.

1739
01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1740
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:40,720
Speaker 14: Sometimes when you start hearing take twelve, that's what questioning action.

1741
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:43,639
Speaker 7: As you would know, camera operators chemos always compleatin about.

1742
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 4: That, especially with sport hold this bloody thing.

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01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:51,360
Speaker 19: All daugh absolutely for people who are thinking, now's my

1744
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 19: moment to you know, to embrace what's happening in w way,

1745
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:57,200
Speaker 19: what's your your one tip for getting into the industry.

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01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:58,240
Speaker 12: My one tip.

1747
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,760
Speaker 14: Would probably be quite a bit more too faceted really,

1748
01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:05,679
Speaker 14: but checking out our local stayroum provider. So screen West

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01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,440
Speaker 14: does a lot of funding and a lot of incentivizing

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01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 14: towards getting attachments in various different roles and departments. So

1751
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:13,960
Speaker 14: keep an eye out for screen West stuff. And you

1752
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 14: can even go beyond and looking at screen Australia and

1753
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:19,000
Speaker 14: then looking through the Guild as well. So I'm a

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01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,519
Speaker 14: member of the Australian Screen Sound Guild and our w

1755
01:25:21,560 --> 01:25:22,160
Speaker 14: a branch here.

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01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:22,400
Speaker 4: You know.

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01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 14: There's a cinematography one, there's a costume one, there's a

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01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 14: production design one.

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01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:27,400
Speaker 6: You know.

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01:25:27,439 --> 01:25:30,439
Speaker 14: So if you're interested in a certain subset of filmmaking already,

1761
01:25:30,479 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 14: like just check out the guild and see what what

1762
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,559
Speaker 14: they've got offering. They may have a talk of free talking,

1763
01:25:34,720 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 14: go to and meet people, connect to network there.

1764
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I guess beyond that, it's the context and then

1765
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:42,760
Speaker 7: the bloody hard work clog an you feel, yes.

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01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 14: Absolutely, put your head down, do the work so you're

1767
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:46,800
Speaker 14: better than anywhere else and you'll get some work.

1768
01:25:46,920 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 3: Nice's good advice. Then thank you so much for joining us.

1769
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:52,559
Speaker 3: We'll let you get back to working with Sam Neil.

1770
01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 3: Thanks giving my love, I'm.

1771
01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 15: Yes, thank you, Ben, thanks.

1772
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:02,360
Speaker 1: And Lisas.

1773
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:03,360
Speaker 4: How does it make it?

1774
01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:06,679
Speaker 2: In ways you bring the sun, I'll make your start.

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Speaker 3: Continuing our series about our burgeoning state of our movie

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01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 3: and film industry. Right now today we have someone from

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01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,760
Speaker 3: the world of wardrobe and costumes, Angela Duncan, is with us.

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01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:24,639
Speaker 3: Hello Angela, Hello Angela. So wardrobe costumes, I mean one

1779
01:26:24,760 --> 01:26:29,320
Speaker 3: and the same. I imagine the clothing department you dress these people.

1780
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 4: We do, and.

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01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,200
Speaker 20: Yes, we like to be referred to as costume costume

1782
01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:35,480
Speaker 20: costume department.

1783
01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:41,040
Speaker 3: Okay, So when you would be I guess required very

1784
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:44,360
Speaker 3: early in the shoot for something, you'd have to sort

1785
01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,559
Speaker 3: out everybody's individual look.

1786
01:26:48,160 --> 01:26:51,559
Speaker 20: Well, there's different members of the costume department. Normally the

1787
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 20: costume designer and the supervisor sort of start in pre

1788
01:26:56,439 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 20: and my job that I have done mostly in my

1789
01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:02,679
Speaker 20: life is stand by. So I kind of come on

1790
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,759
Speaker 20: just before filming. It's a lot of work has done.

1791
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:07,760
Speaker 4: Before I arrive. Okay.

1792
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 20: Then when I start, I break down a script yep,

1793
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:15,320
Speaker 20: and then I'm sort of handed a lot of the

1794
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,799
Speaker 20: costumes that have been decided at that point.

1795
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 4: Okay, right, how did you get into this line of

1796
01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 4: work handler first?

1797
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 5: Right?

1798
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:25,000
Speaker 4: Okay, and just from there.

1799
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 20: I did a secondment on Men from Snow River in

1800
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,000
Speaker 20: Melbourne and just went from there early.

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01:27:31,439 --> 01:27:31,599
Speaker 15: Right.

1802
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 3: Have you done stage stuff as well or is it

1803
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 3: mostly TV and film?

1804
01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:37,400
Speaker 4: Very small amount of stage?

1805
01:27:37,479 --> 01:27:39,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I guess that would be a whole different

1806
01:27:39,439 --> 01:27:41,960
Speaker 3: animal too that you're dealing with there.

1807
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:47,400
Speaker 20: It is, yeah, just something I didn't gravitate to, I guess, right.

1808
01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:49,360
Speaker 3: What are some of the things that you've worked on recently?

1809
01:27:49,439 --> 01:27:53,000
Speaker 3: I believe you worked on The Surfer with Nicholas Cage.

1810
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:54,080
Speaker 1: I did.

1811
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 20: I'm lucky enough with what I do that I can

1812
01:27:57,360 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 20: sort of come in and out of productions, sort of

1813
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:02,840
Speaker 20: work the whole thing. So I've done a bit of

1814
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 20: that recently. It's quite good and convenient when you have kids.

1815
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:13,439
Speaker 20: A lot of my CV is in my twenties, I

1816
01:28:13,479 --> 01:28:16,400
Speaker 20: had children. I love traveling, so that's what I did.

1817
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 20: I used to take jobs all over the country and

1818
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 20: different you know. I worked in London, different parts of

1819
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 20: the world, so I could go exploring and.

1820
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:26,240
Speaker 4: Work this job.

1821
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 20: Yes, Yeah, when you have kids, it kind of changes

1822
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,960
Speaker 20: the ball game a bit. So I'm a bit more

1823
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:36,519
Speaker 20: settled now and a bit more choosy. I guess, as

1824
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:38,879
Speaker 20: we know, we don't have studios here, so.

1825
01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:42,920
Speaker 3: We're going to This is why you must be so

1826
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,440
Speaker 3: excited about what's happening in way in this industry.

1827
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 20: Definitely, I mean to have work in Perth is a

1828
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,879
Speaker 20: huge plus four something Like me, I'm not always somebody

1829
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 20: that can pack up my bags and go and work

1830
01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 20: three months up north or out that kind of thing. Well,

1831
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 20: I mean, I guess I could. Yeah, I just kind

1832
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 20: of choose not to for to have from here, so,

1833
01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 20: you know, to work in Perth, it's the stability is good. Yeah,

1834
01:29:13,400 --> 01:29:15,719
Speaker 20: just opens up a lot more doors for I guess

1835
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 20: people who may not be able to drop everything.

1836
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:19,680
Speaker 4: And not everyone can.

1837
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 3: And like you said, different stages of your life, you

1838
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 3: still want to stay in it, but you're in a

1839
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:28,679
Speaker 3: different stage. So yeah, having that flexibility it's awesome.

1840
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 4: Hey, Angela, Over the years, have there been is it

1841
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 4: unusual being on a set and there's a difficult there's

1842
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 4: an issue, something's broken or whatever, and you're there at

1843
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 4: three o'clock stitching or working on something for running repairs

1844
01:29:40,160 --> 01:29:41,120
Speaker 4: for a shoot the next morning.

1845
01:29:41,760 --> 01:29:45,760
Speaker 20: That happens all the time, and I think that's sort

1846
01:29:45,800 --> 01:29:50,200
Speaker 20: of you know the difference between not having studios and

1847
01:29:50,280 --> 01:29:54,519
Speaker 20: having studios. Sometimes you will come across a problem on

1848
01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 20: a beach or in the desert that's remote and a

1849
01:29:57,880 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 20: shoe's broken or those kind of things, and you're left

1850
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 20: there with, you know, very limited things you can do

1851
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 20: to fix the problem. Kind of nice being in a

1852
01:30:08,200 --> 01:30:10,639
Speaker 20: studio where you know there's a whole worker room behind

1853
01:30:10,720 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 20: you and you've got glues and tapes and all sorts

1854
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 20: of things that can help you out to you know,

1855
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:17,480
Speaker 20: save the day.

1856
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:19,240
Speaker 4: At least, I said mcguy. You've got to have a

1857
01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:20,320
Speaker 4: pretty important kit with you.

1858
01:30:21,200 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 20: Do, and sometimes you know, that's very limited when you're

1859
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 20: in a very remote spot, you know, where you can

1860
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 20: only take what you can take. So I quite like

1861
01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 20: the safety of the studios and having a costume department

1862
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 20: there with lots of things. I think that's going to

1863
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:37,480
Speaker 20: be great.

1864
01:30:37,760 --> 01:30:43,599
Speaker 3: What about dealing with some stars, I mean, you are

1865
01:30:44,240 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 3: putting them in there what they're wearing, and of course

1866
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 3: that can be a very personal thing. Do you ever

1867
01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 3: get a bit of pushback from them on oh I

1868
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 3: don't want to wear that, or you know, my character

1869
01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 3: wouldn't wear that.

1870
01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 4: Go to you Yeah, that happens a lot, so you've

1871
01:30:58,280 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 4: got to deal with that. Yep.

1872
01:30:59,640 --> 01:31:02,640
Speaker 20: Sometimes you have just have different ideas, you know, sometimes

1873
01:31:02,680 --> 01:31:06,559
Speaker 20: they might see the character in a different way, and yeah,

1874
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:10,240
Speaker 20: there's there's always a compromise. And you know, it's great

1875
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 20: when you get handed of an actor that will just.

1876
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 3: Do exactly, you know everything, Yeah, Samuil, imagine Samuel pushing back.

1877
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:20,679
Speaker 4: I don't think you can pay.

1878
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 20: Yeah, it's you know, everybody's different and at the end

1879
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 20: of the day, they are playing a character. Some people,

1880
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:32,720
Speaker 20: you know, get confused between themselves and the character. Yes, yeah,

1881
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,240
Speaker 20: you know sort of sometimes do you have to remind

1882
01:31:35,240 --> 01:31:38,120
Speaker 20: them that maybe you know, they wouldn't wear that or

1883
01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 20: kind of the thing.

1884
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, they've got to be a bit of a personality

1885
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 3: wrangler as well as in the.

1886
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,000
Speaker 4: Way the character.

1887
01:31:47,200 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 20: Yeah, someone might whip out the sunglasses at the last

1888
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:51,960
Speaker 20: minute and sort of say, oh, you know, I think

1889
01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 20: he could wear these, and they sort of sunglasses that

1890
01:31:54,760 --> 01:31:58,599
Speaker 20: don't go at all, you know, with their characters.

1891
01:31:58,600 --> 01:32:04,000
Speaker 4: And that's exactly exactly.

1892
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 3: Speaking period pieces and stuff, the costumes can absolute well,

1893
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,160
Speaker 3: they do absolutely set the scene of what we're watching.

1894
01:32:12,280 --> 01:32:14,760
Speaker 3: Do you have a particular era that you like to

1895
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:16,760
Speaker 3: deal with that is a sort of a personal thing

1896
01:32:17,080 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 3: that you love to do.

1897
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:21,880
Speaker 20: I wouldn't say yes, because I guess that's kind of

1898
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 20: refer a bit more to fashion or I guess perhaps history.

1899
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:32,759
Speaker 20: I quite like costume costume, like the you know, really

1900
01:32:33,160 --> 01:32:43,560
Speaker 20: judge of the Jungle of Matrix or kind of Scooby Doos.

1901
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:43,839
Speaker 4: Very different and out there kind.

1902
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:47,360
Speaker 3: Of Scooby Doo would be. Well, I have to ask

1903
01:32:47,439 --> 01:32:52,560
Speaker 3: about County Rapes because he's gorgeous.

1904
01:32:52,760 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1905
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:56,840
Speaker 20: I actually can't really say much that I kind of

1906
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 20: was only went. There's a lot of Matris help with

1907
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:04,280
Speaker 20: extras and things, so you know, obviously a lot of

1908
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:07,160
Speaker 20: films with the big stars, they keep themselves to themselves,

1909
01:33:08,160 --> 01:33:08,679
Speaker 20: which I've.

1910
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 4: Been there, Witty Bago. Yeah, I mean, apparently you've got it.

1911
01:33:13,240 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 20: You've got hundreds of crew members around, expect them to

1912
01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 20: speak to everybody.

1913
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 3: Angela, what would be Because we're talking about the fact

1914
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:26,559
Speaker 3: that the film and TV industry has never been healthier

1915
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:28,920
Speaker 3: than it is right now in wa and it's only going.

1916
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:29,200
Speaker 4: To get more.

1917
01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 3: So what is your topic of advice for someone wanting

1918
01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:36,560
Speaker 3: to get into the costume department in this industry?

1919
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:37,960
Speaker 4: I guess I.

1920
01:33:37,880 --> 01:33:40,240
Speaker 20: Feel for the people who say that they really they

1921
01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:44,679
Speaker 20: try and they can't get their foot in. I would say,

1922
01:33:44,840 --> 01:33:49,719
Speaker 20: sort of try to let us know that you're around,

1923
01:33:50,479 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 20: because we don't know out of them if we don't

1924
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 20: know who you are. And I guess that's a really

1925
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:58,880
Speaker 20: hard thing for those people to then say, but who

1926
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 20: do I.

1927
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 4: I speak to?

1928
01:34:02,320 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 20: Yeah, because I guess there is a bit of a

1929
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:07,559
Speaker 20: thing where you know, sometimes by the time you hear

1930
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:11,240
Speaker 20: of a film, it's already it's rude. Yes, and these

1931
01:34:11,240 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 20: are smaller films, so sometimes you only have five or

1932
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:19,880
Speaker 20: six people in a costume department. Yeah, so you know

1933
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:24,400
Speaker 20: Screen West, Screen Australia. I don't know, finding a way

1934
01:34:24,439 --> 01:34:25,639
Speaker 20: of getting get.

1935
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,439
Speaker 3: Onto those websites, see what's happening, do.

1936
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 20: Little courses along the way, making contact, Yes, just letting

1937
01:34:33,040 --> 01:34:35,439
Speaker 20: us know what your skills are, what you can do.

1938
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 20: That's not only just for the Whopper graduates and the

1939
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 20: Tafe graduates. For me, I also think you know experience

1940
01:34:45,120 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 20: being older. You know, perhaps you've graduated from Wapper ten

1941
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 20: years ago, you've done some work at other places, but

1942
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:55,599
Speaker 20: you you know you've got a skill now. Yet people

1943
01:34:55,640 --> 01:34:58,760
Speaker 20: who just graduate won't have so even if you haven't

1944
01:34:58,760 --> 01:35:03,320
Speaker 20: done a lot, you know, immediately, but yeah, get in touch.

1945
01:35:03,560 --> 01:35:06,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's you know, put yourself out there. Yeah,

1946
01:35:06,680 --> 01:35:07,200
Speaker 4: it is good.

1947
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:10,400
Speaker 20: And people who are a bit older and have I

1948
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:12,080
Speaker 20: don't know, lots of different things.

1949
01:35:12,360 --> 01:35:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, well, Angela, thank you so much for

1950
01:35:15,960 --> 01:35:19,120
Speaker 3: taking us into your line of the whole industry.

1951
01:35:19,160 --> 01:35:23,800
Speaker 4: It's fascinating. Costume department, absolutely, thank you.

1952
01:35:23,800 --> 01:35:25,920
Speaker 15: Thanks Angela and Lisa.

1953
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:30,439
Speaker 2: How to make it in wa this, I'll make your stuff.

1954
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:34,559
Speaker 3: Oh, we're very excited in this today because we've got

1955
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:38,600
Speaker 3: Sam Desmond, who is a stuntman. Good morning, and you

1956
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:42,920
Speaker 3: just came in through the door. I'm not going to

1957
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:44,519
Speaker 3: say I was disappointed.

1958
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 4: But maybe you'll leave through the window. I don't know.

1959
01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:49,559
Speaker 3: Sam, it's very exciting to have you in here as

1960
01:35:49,560 --> 01:35:51,799
Speaker 3: part of our series that we've been, you know, diving

1961
01:35:51,800 --> 01:35:54,639
Speaker 3: down a rabbit hole because so much is happening here

1962
01:35:54,840 --> 01:35:56,640
Speaker 3: recently and you've been in the heart of it up

1963
01:35:56,680 --> 01:36:00,760
Speaker 3: in York being in runt But I've never met a

1964
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 3: stunt man and I thought, what it must be such

1965
01:36:03,439 --> 01:36:06,200
Speaker 3: a conversation starter when you're at a dinner party or whatever.

1966
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:07,960
Speaker 4: What do you do? Cool gig?

1967
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,639
Speaker 3: I'm in film, which is already a really cool answer.

1968
01:36:10,680 --> 01:36:12,160
Speaker 3: And then I'm a stunt man.

1969
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:20,400
Speaker 8: That's right, it is. My missus usually takes over the Yeah, yeah,

1970
01:36:20,479 --> 01:36:22,920
Speaker 8: that's right. Just back off a bit there, exactly. I

1971
01:36:23,000 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 8: always get what's the most dangerous stunt that you have? Yes,

1972
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 8: full body fire burned.

1973
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 7: With no mask gel you already made answer, that's pretty

1974
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:31,840
Speaker 7: much the most.

1975
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:35,000
Speaker 8: Dangerous, and my favorite is a full story header, which

1976
01:36:35,080 --> 01:36:36,799
Speaker 8: is headfirst into an airbag.

1977
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:41,160
Speaker 4: Yes, storry is high. Yeah, so there are two favorites.

1978
01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:43,599
Speaker 4: What do you like with heights? You're okay? Yeah, I'm

1979
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,720
Speaker 4: pretty good man. Yeah. Well when I was younger, I

1980
01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 4: used to have a bit of a few, so I

1981
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 4: went skydiving. Yeah, I loved it. So I've sorted it out,

1982
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:56,439
Speaker 4: solved it. Yeah, face the fears head on, yeah, head on.

1983
01:36:56,800 --> 01:36:58,960
Speaker 3: As you said, when you did that head on out

1984
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,080
Speaker 3: of a four story do you remember who it was

1985
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 3: you were doing that on?

1986
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:02,439
Speaker 4: Behalf of?

1987
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,759
Speaker 8: Oh that was for the training actually really yeah exactly

1988
01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:08,520
Speaker 8: at the Stunt Academy in Queensland.

1989
01:37:09,360 --> 01:37:11,760
Speaker 4: Okay, you want to go to get most of your training?

1990
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:13,479
Speaker 7: Yeah, because that's what they do with the shows. You know,

1991
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:15,519
Speaker 7: if you're going to see those shows in Anaheim or whatever.

1992
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,720
Speaker 8: That's they have it at the wild West. Yes, yeah,

1993
01:37:18,920 --> 01:37:20,960
Speaker 8: Queensland that the studios there.

1994
01:37:21,400 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 3: I'll tell us about the stunt Academy then, what I mean,

1995
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,120
Speaker 3: what was it like a day in you know, stunt school,

1996
01:37:28,080 --> 01:37:28,640
Speaker 3: all sorts of.

1997
01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,679
Speaker 4: Stunt You get a taste of everything.

1998
01:37:30,840 --> 01:37:37,040
Speaker 8: Yeah, on car hits to basic body control, high falls, fireburns. Yeah,

1999
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,040
Speaker 8: how to land? How to land, that's the main main

2000
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 8: thing you learned. Yeah, stat hurting yourself.

2001
01:37:42,880 --> 01:37:44,360
Speaker 7: There was a time in the seventies and eighties it

2002
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:47,000
Speaker 7: was a called Buddy Joe Hooker was he was. He

2003
01:37:47,080 --> 01:37:49,479
Speaker 7: was doing stunts for everything in Hollywood. He's still around,

2004
01:37:49,720 --> 01:37:50,320
Speaker 7: he's still going.

2005
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:51,439
Speaker 13: Yeah.

2006
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,160
Speaker 4: So did you have Was there anyone like him that

2007
01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 4: you saw and I thought I would love.

2008
01:37:55,200 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 11: To do that?

2009
01:37:56,320 --> 01:38:00,960
Speaker 4: Jackie Chan and to Brewis obviously they yeah, they're out there.

2010
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:05,719
Speaker 4: But Buddy Joe. Yeah, he's great at car crashes absolutely. Yeah.

2011
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:08,760
Speaker 8: Death Proof was one of his movies with Quenton Tarantino,

2012
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 8: and he did a multiple car rolls and landed on

2013
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 8: the roof into the frame.

2014
01:38:13,000 --> 01:38:14,640
Speaker 4: You see him on the credits on almost everything that

2015
01:38:14,760 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 4: was coming out with Legend for sure. Was that your

2016
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:20,519
Speaker 4: favorite thing? To do, like car because you're a boy,

2017
01:38:20,760 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 4: so I want a farm in So you were already

2018
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,240
Speaker 4: doing it. I was cars, bikes, horses.

2019
01:38:26,360 --> 01:38:28,160
Speaker 8: My sister always chucked me on a horse if she

2020
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 8: couldn't couldn't break it in, so stummy for that, my dad. Yeah,

2021
01:38:33,439 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 8: that's right. They taught me how to drive a car

2022
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:37,559
Speaker 8: backwards before I could even hittles.

2023
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 4: Really all right?

2024
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:42,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, yes, what are some of the things that you've

2025
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:47,439
Speaker 8: been in wells recently? Runt is out in cinemas right

2026
01:38:47,439 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 8: now doing quite well. So I was actually lucky enough

2027
01:38:50,240 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 8: to get a call and come back home to start

2028
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 8: as location scout on the job, right, and then went

2029
01:38:55,720 --> 01:39:00,560
Speaker 8: into production assistant for a few weeks into construction. I

2030
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 8: have a backgrounding trade, so I was able to use

2031
01:39:02,960 --> 01:39:05,800
Speaker 8: that in the industry as well, and then once filming

2032
01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:09,120
Speaker 8: started I went on to stunt assistant, safety assistant and

2033
01:39:09,240 --> 01:39:11,320
Speaker 8: also a couple of cameos on the film as well.

2034
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,000
Speaker 4: So yeah, that was very exciting.

2035
01:39:15,800 --> 01:39:18,120
Speaker 3: But I mean building stuff. You just build stuff and

2036
01:39:18,160 --> 01:39:21,240
Speaker 3: then jump off with at the end of the day.

2037
01:39:22,680 --> 01:39:26,519
Speaker 3: A big part in the windmill that right, tell me.

2038
01:39:26,560 --> 01:39:29,560
Speaker 7: I read once where I read Burt Reynold's autobiography, and

2039
01:39:29,680 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 7: he had really bad damage to his face and he

2040
01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 7: had to reconstruct his jaw on his teeth because they

2041
01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:34,880
Speaker 7: used to hit him.

2042
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:36,840
Speaker 4: With the bird's face, Bert's face.

2043
01:39:37,600 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 7: What he's making a lot of those movies and the

2044
01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:42,080
Speaker 7: Badies and that smoking the band and stuff. But from

2045
01:39:42,120 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 7: those stunt chairs they used to use, that's what they

2046
01:39:44,160 --> 01:39:46,600
Speaker 7: called it meant to be collapsible breakaway. People used to

2047
01:39:46,640 --> 01:39:48,760
Speaker 7: get really damaged by those, and he his life changed

2048
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:51,439
Speaker 7: because of it. Yeah, well, safety has definitely changed a

2049
01:39:51,479 --> 01:39:51,840
Speaker 7: lot since.

2050
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:52,160
Speaker 17: Yeah.

2051
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:54,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was almost like they're a bit too tough

2052
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:54,760
Speaker 4: to chairs.

2053
01:39:54,920 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, hard so okay, yeah, exactly unless they're made nowdays.

2054
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 4: He can make props out of foam and it looks

2055
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 4: to hit the right way by these things, exactly. Okay,

2056
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 4: that's right. Sure is it a silly question to us

2057
01:40:09,760 --> 01:40:11,320
Speaker 4: if you have been injured.

2058
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 8: Most of the injuries I did was before I became

2059
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:16,640
Speaker 8: a stunt man. Oh, freestyle motocross, and I broke my

2060
01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:20,519
Speaker 8: wrists and located my kneel at the same time. And yeah,

2061
01:40:21,439 --> 01:40:24,800
Speaker 8: even when I was a fencing contractor, him perfect jumping

2062
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 8: off the top of the fence when I finished broke

2063
01:40:26,880 --> 01:40:30,040
Speaker 8: a couple of ankles. Yeah, most have happened before my

2064
01:40:30,160 --> 01:40:32,400
Speaker 8: stunt career, which is kind of interesting.

2065
01:40:32,640 --> 01:40:35,080
Speaker 4: So it just shows you how safe it is in

2066
01:40:35,160 --> 01:40:36,120
Speaker 4: the industry.

2067
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,080
Speaker 3: And most people on set, I mean Tom Cruise is

2068
01:40:38,120 --> 01:40:39,840
Speaker 3: the exception. Of course, he loves to do his own,

2069
01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,800
Speaker 3: but most people on set more than happy to just

2070
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 3: say you take it from here.

2071
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:50,760
Speaker 4: That's bien back out. Yeah, yeah, that's right.

2072
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:54,040
Speaker 8: If anything happens to them, then the film just stops completely. Yeah,

2073
01:40:54,320 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 8: so we step in and take the hits and especially

2074
01:40:57,280 --> 01:40:59,840
Speaker 8: take the falls, and yeah, we're trained to do it

2075
01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:00,640
Speaker 8: so well.

2076
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 7: If they've been working on funding for ten years on

2077
01:41:02,479 --> 01:41:05,120
Speaker 7: something on a project, which often happens, or five years exactly,

2078
01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:05,720
Speaker 7: I wanted to fall.

2079
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:09,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually, you probably hurt yourself less than the average

2080
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,439
Speaker 3: person because you do know how to fall over and

2081
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:13,040
Speaker 3: things like that.

2082
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:17,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, helps in every day life. It does help it

2083
01:41:17,080 --> 01:41:21,720
Speaker 4: every day life home from the pub. Yeah, yeah, I

2084
01:41:21,800 --> 01:41:22,439
Speaker 4: have a profession.

2085
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,040
Speaker 7: It always makes me overways curious because I'm a nerd

2086
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:28,840
Speaker 7: and I'm watching shows to see if you can pick

2087
01:41:28,920 --> 01:41:30,680
Speaker 7: the stunt man and things or a stunt.

2088
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:32,080
Speaker 4: Well with the crossover point.

2089
01:41:32,160 --> 01:41:32,320
Speaker 6: Yeah.

2090
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:32,559
Speaker 17: Yeah.

2091
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 7: There's a movie called Face Off with Travolta and Page

2092
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 7: Right and the you can in the boat. You can

2093
01:41:37,560 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 7: pick the stuntman almost every time, but they're very careful

2094
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 7: to make it blend and look perfect, doren't they are?

2095
01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,439
Speaker 7: You get critical when you're watching other productions you're not in.

2096
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:47,040
Speaker 7: You're watching so much.

2097
01:41:47,160 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 8: Now, I've always been a film lover, so I can

2098
01:41:49,320 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 8: get sucked into whatever I'm watching. But there are times

2099
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:57,080
Speaker 8: when it's like that's a stunt man body size or

2100
01:41:57,120 --> 01:41:58,840
Speaker 8: the way they move. Yeah, there's a lot of things.

2101
01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:00,920
Speaker 8: There's a lot of acting that goes into stunts.

2102
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:01,240
Speaker 4: Actually.

2103
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 8: Absolutely, when you are doubling someone, you have to move

2104
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,600
Speaker 8: like them and obviously look like them. Is up to

2105
01:42:07,680 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 8: wardrobe and makeup, yeah, you know. But also with stunts

2106
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:15,280
Speaker 8: you also get an opportunity to act and do your

2107
01:42:15,320 --> 01:42:18,600
Speaker 8: own stunts, not just double other people. So yeah, it

2108
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:20,080
Speaker 8: was just what I did on runt was I was

2109
01:42:20,120 --> 01:42:21,040
Speaker 8: my own character doing.

2110
01:42:24,680 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 4: I'm a continuity nerd.

2111
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,040
Speaker 3: I like to watch the glass, you know, go up

2112
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:29,960
Speaker 3: and down in its liquid, or the ice cream that's

2113
01:42:29,960 --> 01:42:32,760
Speaker 3: stripping and then it's not, And that would apply, I

2114
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:34,680
Speaker 3: guess apply a lot to the scenes where you come

2115
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:37,560
Speaker 3: in because they've got to find that moment where the

2116
01:42:37,640 --> 01:42:39,200
Speaker 3: swap happens exactly.

2117
01:42:39,400 --> 01:42:39,599
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2118
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:42,479
Speaker 8: Well, one of my recent films was Late Night with

2119
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:46,920
Speaker 8: the Devil, which is a great Australian horror movie Kahnes Brothers. Yeah,

2120
01:42:47,040 --> 01:42:49,560
Speaker 8: and I doubled one of the actors who was the

2121
01:42:49,640 --> 01:42:52,639
Speaker 8: first death and his head spun around backwards and as

2122
01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:55,760
Speaker 8: it happened, so I had a green sock on my

2123
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:57,120
Speaker 8: head and I was.

2124
01:43:00,360 --> 01:43:00,719
Speaker 9: The moment.

2125
01:43:00,760 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 8: When you do watch it in the film, it's like

2126
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 8: you can't tell, well, it completely seamless.

2127
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:10,000
Speaker 3: I've heard of a green screen, a green slot screen

2128
01:43:10,160 --> 01:43:12,639
Speaker 3: exactly what it was, a green.

2129
01:43:12,479 --> 01:43:13,120
Speaker 4: Screen, it was.

2130
01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 3: How excited are you for what's been happening in wa

2131
01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:19,519
Speaker 3: with the And we've got the Malaga Film Studios coming,

2132
01:43:19,640 --> 01:43:21,720
Speaker 3: so a lot of that post production stuff that might

2133
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:23,639
Speaker 3: have had to go elsewhere can all be done here.

2134
01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:27,879
Speaker 4: The industry is this is the happening time.

2135
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:31,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, definitely, So hopefully it'll attract a lot more people

2136
01:43:31,640 --> 01:43:33,640
Speaker 8: back home that have had to leave. There's a lot

2137
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,280
Speaker 8: of us stunties have to go over East and training

2138
01:43:36,320 --> 01:43:39,679
Speaker 8: room and then we make our contacts in the East,

2139
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 8: so most of the work happens over there for us.

2140
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:46,000
Speaker 8: So unless we can get our foothold in here. You know,

2141
01:43:46,360 --> 01:43:48,600
Speaker 8: the work is fairly slim picking.

2142
01:43:48,360 --> 01:43:51,040
Speaker 3: And we're making all genres of movies now too, which

2143
01:43:51,520 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 3: is you know, where are you coming?

2144
01:43:53,760 --> 01:43:56,960
Speaker 4: Definitely lots of comedy that's usually has the most thun

2145
01:43:57,160 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 4: in it.

2146
01:43:59,200 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, like a car chase from some of the

2147
01:44:03,240 --> 01:44:05,000
Speaker 7: classic movies out of Hollywood.

2148
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:06,639
Speaker 15: Particularly car chases. Yeah, they're the best.

2149
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 7: The other thing about malagam Aut lest I mentioned it's

2150
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:12,479
Speaker 7: very exciting, but it sounds studios a great, big constructure

2151
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:14,040
Speaker 7: they're building out there, and that adds to it. The

2152
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:15,880
Speaker 7: versatility of the venue.

2153
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 8: Well, definitely, there will be places for us to train

2154
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:22,440
Speaker 8: and the versatility. Yeah, it would attract more people, more productions,

2155
01:44:22,479 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 8: and yeah, hopefully they'll use more local cruise and yeah, I.

2156
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:28,840
Speaker 7: Want to see car chase off Alexander Drive into ma

2157
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:29,920
Speaker 7: Laga local Blues Brothers.

2158
01:44:31,160 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 4: I saw one recently, but I don't think it was sanctious.

2159
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:38,240
Speaker 3: Are there a lot Is there a lot of work

2160
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:40,200
Speaker 3: for stunt people, if you know, for people are going,

2161
01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:43,000
Speaker 3: I'm going to get in here into this industry somehow?

2162
01:44:43,840 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 4: Is this a good angle to go?

2163
01:44:46,000 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 15: Definitely?

2164
01:44:46,439 --> 01:44:48,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean if you're willing to put

2165
01:44:48,240 --> 01:44:51,040
Speaker 8: in the hid yards for the training, get the grading,

2166
01:44:51,640 --> 01:44:54,839
Speaker 8: and then it definitely pays off anything from driving cars

2167
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:58,760
Speaker 8: to fighting and stunts on film. Big stunts like yeah,

2168
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,640
Speaker 8: going through a glass table with a green sock, with

2169
01:45:01,760 --> 01:45:02,599
Speaker 8: a green sock in your head.

2170
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:04,960
Speaker 3: So what's your advice to someone thinking I'm going to

2171
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:07,040
Speaker 3: I'm going to make my move today.

2172
01:45:07,240 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 8: The main thing is you need twelve months worth of

2173
01:45:09,320 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 8: body control, so some sort of fighting, martial arts okay,

2174
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:16,719
Speaker 8: gymnastics Okay, that's definitely going to help you go towards

2175
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:20,479
Speaker 8: your training, and then six months with a stunt coordinator,

2176
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,400
Speaker 8: which is where most of us end up in Queensland,

2177
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:26,360
Speaker 8: training with a coordinator, and once you've got your grading,

2178
01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 8: then you're able to work on films.

2179
01:45:28,520 --> 01:45:31,240
Speaker 7: Yeah, okay, have you seen the Dev Patel movie that

2180
01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:33,439
Speaker 7: came out this year called Monkey Monkey Man.

2181
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:37,799
Speaker 4: That's brutal. It's like one long flight scene for two.

2182
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:42,880
Speaker 21: Hours, one long fight increasi, it's like the raid, right, Okay,

2183
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:46,280
Speaker 21: pretty full on definitely, but some of the sequences in

2184
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 21: that obviously it's choreographed, but it is quite at times

2185
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:51,959
Speaker 21: ridiculously for sure.

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Speaker 4: Sam, thanks for coming in today.

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01:45:54,720 --> 01:45:56,160
Speaker 3: I'm going to be a pleasure I'm looking for you

2188
01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:00,640
Speaker 3: out of the green stock now every Yeah movie that

2189
01:46:00,760 --> 01:46:03,200
Speaker 3: I see how to make it in w Way as

2190
01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:04,000
Speaker 3: a stunt man?

2191
01:46:04,520 --> 01:46:06,599
Speaker 4: Thank you, Thanks for all the best of cheers.

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01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 15: Clasi and Lisas.

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01:46:08,240 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 1: How do to it make it in Way this.

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01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:12,360
Speaker 2: Sun and I'll make you a start?

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01:46:12,640 --> 01:46:18,439
Speaker 3: This has been fascinating mid our burgeoning film and movie

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01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:22,519
Speaker 3: industry that's happening in w Way. We've spoken to the

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01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:26,920
Speaker 3: Minister about the Malaga Film Studios. We've spoken to a

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01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:30,759
Speaker 3: casting director, We've spoken to the costume person who supposed

2199
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:32,879
Speaker 3: it to the guy that holds the big ferry microphone

2200
01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:36,560
Speaker 3: just out of shop today, wrapping it up with the

2201
01:46:37,000 --> 01:46:40,400
Speaker 3: pinnacle of getting into the industry. Known for starring as

2202
01:46:40,439 --> 01:46:43,000
Speaker 3: Peter Allen and Not the Boy next Door, Deadline, Gallipoli,

2203
01:46:43,040 --> 01:46:45,400
Speaker 3: and most recently Run to name just a few things.

2204
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 3: W Way born and bred Logi and actor winner Joel Jackson,

2205
01:46:51,000 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 3: Good morning, right, welcome, Good.

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01:46:53,400 --> 01:46:55,720
Speaker 4: Morning gang, How are you? Thank you for the very

2207
01:46:55,760 --> 01:46:56,679
Speaker 4: beautiful introduction.

2208
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:02,920
Speaker 3: Thank you for taking time out of your very busy

2209
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:04,680
Speaker 3: schedule to have.

2210
01:47:04,760 --> 01:47:05,479
Speaker 11: A chat to us.

2211
01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:07,920
Speaker 4: Because I thought I'd kick starting the day with a

2212
01:47:07,920 --> 01:47:13,200
Speaker 4: bunch of mates. You know, why not, Joel would you

2213
01:47:13,200 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 4: would agree. I'm sure that this is a very exciting

2214
01:47:15,960 --> 01:47:17,599
Speaker 4: time in the WA industry.

2215
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 5: It's one. I mean, on Wednesday night we hosted the

2216
01:47:22,560 --> 01:47:26,639
Speaker 5: very first ever Australian World Travel on Tourism Council dinner

2217
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:30,040
Speaker 5: and the first summit that's ever happened here in Australia,

2218
01:47:30,720 --> 01:47:34,400
Speaker 5: let alone in Western Australia. To see the scale of

2219
01:47:34,439 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 5: the entertainment industry and then to see the interest in

2220
01:47:37,400 --> 01:47:40,920
Speaker 5: people from overseas asking me about the studios and asking

2221
01:47:41,600 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 5: about what they expected and what can we look forward to,

2222
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:48,839
Speaker 5: it was really special because you start to go everybody

2223
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,439
Speaker 5: else outside of Australia is also taking notice.

2224
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's the key, isn't it to get that

2225
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,360
Speaker 7: international interest. So it's locals and from across the country

2226
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 7: and around the world visiting us working.

2227
01:47:59,160 --> 01:48:01,519
Speaker 5: That's quite an insane things. What happens at Billid Roadshow

2228
01:48:01,760 --> 01:48:04,960
Speaker 5: or around those other bigger, kind of significant studios is

2229
01:48:05,000 --> 01:48:06,640
Speaker 5: that people come to visit, they come to see the

2230
01:48:06,720 --> 01:48:09,439
Speaker 5: locations and it's a whole other part of the tourism

2231
01:48:09,520 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 5: industry which is incredibly exciting. But that's yeah, that's outside

2232
01:48:13,360 --> 01:48:13,799
Speaker 5: of our.

2233
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,639
Speaker 3: And then and then it just snowballs because they see

2234
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:21,800
Speaker 3: our locations and they see, you know what Nick Cage

2235
01:48:21,920 --> 01:48:22,800
Speaker 3: is doing down south.

2236
01:48:22,840 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 4: Wow, what an amazing location. And they see York and think,

2237
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:26,160
Speaker 4: well that's York.

2238
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:31,040
Speaker 3: That is you know, as as Craig Sylvie said, effortlessly cinematic.

2239
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:35,200
Speaker 4: I just love his description of York where you just made.

2240
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Speaker 5: You give Craig Sylvie. Yeah, you give Craig Silvie your

2241
01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:39,400
Speaker 5: chance to use the English language. You're going to get

2242
01:48:39,400 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 5: a master class.

2243
01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:47,400
Speaker 18: You should write right, thank you one of these days, expiningly,

2244
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 18: he should.

2245
01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:50,000
Speaker 4: Ever credit, he should ever cracking it.

2246
01:48:50,320 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 5: This morning, really excitingly, I just opened my social media

2247
01:48:54,200 --> 01:48:58,120
Speaker 5: to see that he'd actually announced that they've been approved

2248
01:48:58,160 --> 01:48:59,920
Speaker 5: to this sequel for twenty twenty.

2249
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:00,679
Speaker 12: I have the book.

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Speaker 3: Fantastic. Oh that is beautiful, awesome news. He's just a

2251
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:10,320
Speaker 3: He's a treasure. He's so you I said, born and

2252
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,880
Speaker 3: bred and that is It couldn't be any truer really,

2253
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:15,080
Speaker 3: because am I right? You were born in Albany, but

2254
01:49:15,200 --> 01:49:18,840
Speaker 3: then dad was a primary school principle and that took

2255
01:49:18,880 --> 01:49:23,120
Speaker 3: you to Katha at about ten, which is very different.

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01:49:23,280 --> 01:49:24,400
Speaker 4: You know extremes.

2257
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:30,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, you get like solidn granite rock in the Great

2258
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 5: Southern Ocean to like the tip of the Indian Ocean

2259
01:49:33,360 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 5: with this pointy, wonderful kind of coral coast and the

2260
01:49:37,160 --> 01:49:38,360
Speaker 5: red pined and dust it was.

2261
01:49:39,080 --> 01:49:41,920
Speaker 4: It was amazing. But like in saying that.

2262
01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:46,879
Speaker 5: Randomly too yesterday I bumped into ten Winter in Earphoia

2263
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 5: and just kidding, no, just I was walking in and

2264
01:49:51,479 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 5: kind of get up ready to go for this event,

2265
01:49:53,080 --> 01:49:54,920
Speaker 5: and saw him and dropped everything and went, I have

2266
01:49:55,040 --> 01:49:58,600
Speaker 5: been meaning to find an opportunity to meet you and

2267
01:49:58,680 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 5: talk to you for my high lifetime because we're so

2268
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:05,599
Speaker 5: lucky in that Western Australia, the creators here, I've been

2269
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 5: able to capture that landscape and I think having moved up,

2270
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:12,679
Speaker 5: the first audition I ever did was for Lucky Leonard

2271
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:18,320
Speaker 5: in Albany, Yeah, which is wonderful. Sean Keenan got incredible

2272
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 5: and then.

2273
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:23,320
Speaker 4: Joy I should say yeah yeah.

2274
01:50:24,640 --> 01:50:28,720
Speaker 5: And then when I headed to Kartha, the first opportunity

2275
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:30,679
Speaker 5: I had to kind of walk onto a film set.

2276
01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,559
Speaker 5: I was working at the Rio Tinto Assault Mindes at

2277
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:36,360
Speaker 5: the time as a trade assistant as a ta ning

2278
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:38,720
Speaker 5: a bit of money in school holidays and I was

2279
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:40,960
Speaker 5: feeling red dog shitting.

2280
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:44,519
Speaker 7: This is six degrees of separation in wa we spoke to.

2281
01:50:46,240 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 4: That really launching juice right. Yes, exactly has a big

2282
01:50:51,479 --> 01:50:52,920
Speaker 4: fat book of his beauty.

2283
01:50:56,439 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 5: I know. But the great thing about it is that

2284
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 5: that opportunity to at least get on to set. See

2285
01:51:04,439 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 5: back in the day, it wasn't a thing where we're

2286
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:08,080
Speaker 5: taking photos with an iPad and putting it into an

2287
01:51:08,080 --> 01:51:11,040
Speaker 5: application that then orders it. It was someone sitting there

2288
01:51:11,080 --> 01:51:14,000
Speaker 5: with a polaroid camera and a blue stick and they

2289
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:16,360
Speaker 5: take the polaroid camera of the person's hands and what

2290
01:51:16,439 --> 01:51:18,960
Speaker 5: the makeup was doing, and what they had on their hands,

2291
01:51:19,000 --> 01:51:21,920
Speaker 5: the ring to watch where their collar was doing with

2292
01:51:22,000 --> 01:51:24,800
Speaker 5: the buttons, how many buttons, if they had a belt

2293
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 5: on three or four notches, like all these continuity things.

2294
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:30,479
Speaker 5: And I'm just asking the question of the costume and

2295
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:34,680
Speaker 5: make up the GOP team going what is going on here?

2296
01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:38,320
Speaker 5: And for someone like me who loved the sport and

2297
01:51:38,479 --> 01:51:42,320
Speaker 5: detail and the team aspect of everyone playing their part,

2298
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:44,760
Speaker 5: I just fell in love with the mechanism more than

2299
01:51:44,800 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 5: I did the doing. And that was my first kind

2300
01:51:48,040 --> 01:51:51,120
Speaker 5: of inkling of Oh, I might really like to investigate this.

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01:51:52,680 --> 01:51:56,080
Speaker 3: But when did you realize and I mean when did

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01:51:56,160 --> 01:51:58,960
Speaker 3: you realize that do you kind of have leading man colicies,

2303
01:52:00,360 --> 01:52:00,800
Speaker 3: not just.

2304
01:52:00,880 --> 01:52:02,320
Speaker 4: To be, you know, doing that.

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01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:07,360
Speaker 5: Dad will always say, there's this old video of us

2306
01:52:07,600 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 5: kids gone a useless loop with all the cousins and stuff,

2307
01:52:11,200 --> 01:52:13,360
Speaker 5: and everyone else went away and did their thing, and

2308
01:52:13,439 --> 01:52:16,000
Speaker 5: they got into groups and made their little on a

2309
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:18,120
Speaker 5: show on a show, and.

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01:52:18,200 --> 01:52:19,559
Speaker 4: I refused to work with anybody.

2311
01:52:22,760 --> 01:52:24,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, I went into my winter bag.

2312
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 4: I was me, give me my fizzy water, Karen, and

2313
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:30,520
Speaker 4: I'll be back out. Your motivation as a youngster.

2314
01:52:32,120 --> 01:52:34,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, what's my why? What's my wife?

2315
01:52:34,720 --> 01:52:34,920
Speaker 17: Yeah?

2316
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:37,639
Speaker 12: What I was about I stink.

2317
01:52:37,720 --> 01:52:40,280
Speaker 4: I was about two or three and it's still on

2318
01:52:40,360 --> 01:52:42,360
Speaker 4: BA Death and I just walked out, and.

2319
01:52:43,840 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 5: Because I was trying to sing Twinkle Twinkle, little start,

2320
01:52:47,720 --> 01:52:49,960
Speaker 5: so Dad will always go yeah. From then on we

2321
01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:51,559
Speaker 5: were like, yeah, you were going to be a bit

2322
01:52:51,640 --> 01:52:55,800
Speaker 5: of a a hairful by yourself. But I think the

2323
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:58,680
Speaker 5: leading man, or at least the idea of I can

2324
01:52:58,720 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 5: go and do this and put it off was actually

2325
01:53:02,240 --> 01:53:05,719
Speaker 5: when I was at night, when I was at school studying,

2326
01:53:07,120 --> 01:53:09,160
Speaker 5: I knew that I was incredibly different. So for the

2327
01:53:09,240 --> 01:53:12,120
Speaker 5: first year, half of the teachers called me Karatha. That

2328
01:53:12,160 --> 01:53:15,080
Speaker 5: didn't call me by my name, all right, and you

2329
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:20,479
Speaker 5: know those schools in you know there's a it's changed now,

2330
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 5: but it was a bit of a thing of ten

2331
01:53:22,160 --> 01:53:25,200
Speaker 5: years ago. People would do that, you know, building down

2332
01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:26,599
Speaker 5: to break you back out. But I was like, man,

2333
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 5: I'm played footy in the North Tilbera, Like.

2334
01:53:29,160 --> 01:53:35,519
Speaker 18: You know what you don't do? Yeah, necessarily understand you. No, No,

2335
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:37,880
Speaker 18: I've been in the ruck against Laurie. But loove you

2336
01:53:37,960 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 18: late the month players.

2337
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:41,360
Speaker 12: What a good player.

2338
01:53:41,479 --> 01:53:43,840
Speaker 5: Yeah he took me out. Yeah, he gave me my

2339
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:45,679
Speaker 5: first ever knockout to the knee.

2340
01:53:46,200 --> 01:53:48,760
Speaker 12: Yes, yeah, he can jump higher that man.

2341
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 9: Yeah.

2342
01:53:51,320 --> 01:53:51,799
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

2343
01:53:52,240 --> 01:53:56,000
Speaker 7: But in the acting game, I remember talking to Roger

2344
01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:58,679
Speaker 7: Corser one day, great actor, and he was saying, I'm working.

2345
01:53:58,720 --> 01:54:00,320
Speaker 7: I'm working right now, but next month time at the

2346
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:04,280
Speaker 7: Wolf unpacking boxes and containers, and that was like, oh,

2347
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:07,280
Speaker 7: even a working actor has to have to have another job.

2348
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:09,040
Speaker 7: It can be one of those kind of gigskin of

2349
01:54:09,160 --> 01:54:09,599
Speaker 7: in and out.

2350
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:12,240
Speaker 4: It can be most definitely one of those.

2351
01:54:13,200 --> 01:54:15,599
Speaker 5: I was just listening to something that Nick Offerman from

2352
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 5: Parks and Rush and who was one of the stars

2353
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:24,800
Speaker 5: of alongside another Ousie Murray Bartlett in the Last of Us,

2354
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:28,240
Speaker 5: and that beautiful emindod it was just a standalone.

2355
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:35,480
Speaker 4: Brilliant o god themselves. Nick Offman, who plays opposite Murray Bartlett.

2356
01:54:36,080 --> 01:54:38,360
Speaker 4: He is married to Anna Station beaver House and by

2357
01:54:38,400 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 4: the way, right exactly.

2358
01:54:40,280 --> 01:54:50,360
Speaker 5: Right, yeah, yes, but he he didn't really get much

2359
01:54:50,440 --> 01:54:52,960
Speaker 5: of a big, big, solid break until he was thirty

2360
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:54,240
Speaker 5: eight on Parks and Red.

2361
01:54:54,360 --> 01:54:54,600
Speaker 20: Wow.

2362
01:54:54,760 --> 01:54:58,360
Speaker 5: He was working as an actor throughout and doing stand

2363
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:02,040
Speaker 5: up and some pieces. But he was saying, you know,

2364
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:04,280
Speaker 5: he realized that a lot of other people that he

2365
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:08,560
Speaker 5: knew and adored were incredibly talented and far more skillful

2366
01:55:08,600 --> 01:55:11,680
Speaker 5: than he was. But they put all their joy seeking,

2367
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:14,560
Speaker 5: put all of their self worth into this career rather

2368
01:55:14,640 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 5: than stepping outside of it and going, you know, like,

2369
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:21,360
Speaker 5: if I'm happy and I get to work in this place, incredible,

2370
01:55:21,840 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 5: But if I don't get to work in that place,

2371
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 5: can I still be happy? And that, I think is

2372
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,200
Speaker 5: such a beautiful key to the longevity of what we do.

2373
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:35,879
Speaker 5: Caann't place and trust me like I've learned at firsthand

2374
01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,760
Speaker 5: coming from the first two things that I ever did

2375
01:55:38,840 --> 01:55:42,680
Speaker 5: in this industry. Being recognized and awarded for a nomination

2376
01:55:42,840 --> 01:55:46,880
Speaker 5: and a win for our the biggest award for a

2377
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:51,360
Speaker 5: TV actor in this country. And I was only twenty

2378
01:55:51,400 --> 01:55:53,000
Speaker 5: two or twenty three years old when I did both

2379
01:55:53,040 --> 01:55:56,280
Speaker 5: of them, and from then on you're going, well, everything

2380
01:55:56,360 --> 01:55:58,760
Speaker 5: else has to be on that part, right, You go, well, no,

2381
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:03,120
Speaker 5: you can't necessarily emulate all those things. And also those

2382
01:56:03,200 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 5: things were incredibly incredible moments of flash in the pan

2383
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:10,280
Speaker 5: of great people, great stories at a great time. It

2384
01:56:10,360 --> 01:56:15,160
Speaker 5: was very necessary. But you can't then place all of

2385
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 5: your self worth by going, well, that's what my that's

2386
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,880
Speaker 5: what my plateau is. You go, well, no, that's someone

2387
01:56:21,920 --> 01:56:24,520
Speaker 5: outside of me going you deserve that, well, thank you

2388
01:56:24,640 --> 01:56:26,920
Speaker 5: very much, and then you can go back to yourself

2389
01:56:26,960 --> 01:56:30,800
Speaker 5: and then being incredibly happy in there. So regardless of

2390
01:56:31,000 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 5: what hat you wear on what kind of day, or

2391
01:56:32,560 --> 01:56:35,080
Speaker 5: what shoes you put on to step out into that

2392
01:56:35,240 --> 01:56:37,160
Speaker 5: next part in your career, as long as you can

2393
01:56:37,240 --> 01:56:41,920
Speaker 5: be solid in yourself the little tributaries and offshoots that

2394
01:56:42,040 --> 01:56:43,800
Speaker 5: this career will give you, you'll be fine.

2395
01:56:44,280 --> 01:56:46,080
Speaker 4: Are words to live by whatever you do.

2396
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 3: Because I think this is the reason why a lot

2397
01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:51,760
Speaker 3: of sports people suffer, because they may, you know, for

2398
01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:54,200
Speaker 3: want of a better way of putting a peak early,

2399
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:58,440
Speaker 3: and then they suffer because they're not giving themselves a

2400
01:56:58,520 --> 01:57:01,520
Speaker 3: break for you know, you can do that. And then

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Speaker 3: go on, Joel, what are your top tips for anyone

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01:57:07,000 --> 01:57:09,640
Speaker 3: who's listening and thinking, I want to be Joel one day,

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01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:11,520
Speaker 3: or I want to just be in I want to

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01:57:11,560 --> 01:57:14,680
Speaker 3: be in the industry in some capacity because it's such

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01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 3: an exciting industry to be in, and now is the

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01:57:18,120 --> 01:57:19,520
Speaker 3: time to be doing it in way.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, very good call.

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Speaker 5: My first one straight up to that is discipline. Trump's

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01:57:27,240 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 5: motivation every single day, right.

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01:57:29,160 --> 01:57:33,480
Speaker 4: On Trump's motivation. Okay, Yeah, So you're.

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01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:35,400
Speaker 5: Only going to be as good as your best effort,

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01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 5: and if you continue to show up and put in

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01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:39,400
Speaker 5: an f every day, the chances are you're going to

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01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:40,360
Speaker 5: produce a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of good efforts.

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Speaker 5: Stephen King had this beautiful quite where he talked about

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01:57:45,120 --> 01:57:47,680
Speaker 5: the fact of you know, the clubs wait for inspiration.

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01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:50,880
Speaker 5: The rest of us just get up and work. And

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Speaker 5: I think it's wonderful because in this industry you're never

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01:57:54,160 --> 01:57:57,120
Speaker 5: going to get a pat on the back, and you

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01:57:57,200 --> 01:57:59,520
Speaker 5: might put in you know, we put in upwards of

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01:57:59,520 --> 01:58:03,040
Speaker 5: one hundred job applications a year with auditions of course.

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Speaker 4: And you might hear back from three Lonely said this

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01:58:06,600 --> 01:58:07,120
Speaker 4: is a very.

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Speaker 5: Incredible man, and you know you you just have to go, Okay,

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01:58:17,480 --> 01:58:19,680
Speaker 5: I'm going to put in my best effort and make

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01:58:19,720 --> 01:58:21,240
Speaker 5: sure that I am doing it at the best of

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01:58:21,320 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 5: my ability. Good advice, don't sleep on technical advances.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 5: So what I mean by that is the idea of

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01:58:30,160 --> 01:58:32,919
Speaker 5: a self tap. At the moment and people are auditioning

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01:58:32,960 --> 01:58:35,280
Speaker 5: around the world, there's this great theory that the world's

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01:58:35,320 --> 01:58:37,680
Speaker 5: gone back to being flat because it's so well connected.

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01:58:39,240 --> 01:58:42,000
Speaker 5: Like you know, it's just so easy to be able

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Speaker 5: to work with the casting director of the UK or

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01:58:43,840 --> 01:58:46,120
Speaker 5: the US and for them to make their shows here,

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01:58:46,320 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 5: or for you to be all of a suddenly getting

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Speaker 5: a role in House of Dragons and shooting in British

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01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:55,280
Speaker 5: Columbia or and all because if you shot something on

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Speaker 5: your iPhone. So if you want to work within this industry,

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01:58:59,320 --> 01:59:01,760
Speaker 5: whether you be on you know, in front of the

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01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:05,840
Speaker 5: camera or behind the camera, look at the technical advances

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01:59:06,200 --> 01:59:10,720
Speaker 5: and listen to podcasts. Be go and take someone out

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01:59:10,760 --> 01:59:13,400
Speaker 5: for coffee and say that's what you're asking them out for.

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Speaker 11: To go.

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Speaker 5: I just want to know what you know, and I

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01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:20,320
Speaker 5: want to see the holes in my own knowledge to

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Speaker 5: understand this mechanism better so that I can be as

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Speaker 5: good as I can. Join totally and you know, and

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Speaker 5: steal from YouTube. YouTube is the best. Michelangelo would always say,

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01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:35,040
Speaker 5: like Michelangelo is not mate.

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Speaker 4: It was big on he good artists copy, great artists steal.

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Speaker 3: That Nightjel Jackson, listen. Thank you so much for joining

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Speaker 3: us today. It's always a treat.

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Speaker 4: Very excited. Thanks, it's incredibly exciting. Thanks great great words

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Speaker 4: to take away. Thank you, Joel Diggs