WEBVTT - Deep Dive: The Rise of Sarah's Day

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<v Speaker 1>Before we get into the episode, we want to issue

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<v Speaker 1>a trigger warning as the episode does touch on themes

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<v Speaker 1>relating to eating disorders. Episode one, The Rise of Sarah's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah Stevenson is one of Australia's biggest influences. Her YouTube channel,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah's Day has over one point five million subscribers, while

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<v Speaker 1>her Instagram account boasts one point two million followers.

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<v Speaker 2>Good morning guys, an official walk back to my channel.

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<v Speaker 1>The self proclaimed holistic health princess cultivated a devoted following

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<v Speaker 1>for her raw approach and passion for health and fitness,

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<v Speaker 1>but in twenty seventeen, the tide began to turn when

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah claimed she had healed her cervical displacire through healthy eating.

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<v Speaker 2>The rest of this video is just telling you all

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<v Speaker 2>of the healthy ways that I cured my cervix and

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<v Speaker 2>how I am now free, pretty much free from cervical displacure.

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<v Speaker 1>She was slammed by the press was spreading medical misinformation,

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<v Speaker 1>and followers began to turn some.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the messages I'm getting you guys like full on

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<v Speaker 2>like hate, death threats.

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<v Speaker 1>Controversy has followed the thirty year old ever since, with

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<v Speaker 1>explosive reactions online to her every.

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<v Speaker 2>Move, one dollar will go towards Saint Vincent's bushfire appeal.

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<v Speaker 2>I just got so much hate on that post.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been accused of cultural appropriation, targeting people with eating

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<v Speaker 1>disorders and taking down small businesses. We are journalist Amy

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<v Speaker 1>Kay and Sophie Torber and we're fascinated by the world

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<v Speaker 1>of influencers and the psychology of cancel culture. In this series,

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<v Speaker 1>we will delve into Sarah's Day's biggest scandals, her fall

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<v Speaker 1>from grace, cancel culture, and the dangers of influence.

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<v Speaker 3>This is outspoken plus.

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<v Speaker 1>When you say the name Sarah's Day, it attracts one

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<v Speaker 1>of two reactions. People either love her or hate her.

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<v Speaker 1>When Sarah first started out on Instagram in twenty thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>she was this very relatable twenty year old girl who

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<v Speaker 1>came from a middle class family in Cranulla and originally

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<v Speaker 1>her channel was all about documenting her day, hence the

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<v Speaker 1>name Sarah's Day. Her channel name has led to so

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<v Speaker 1>much confusion because people think that Day is her last name,

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<v Speaker 1>when it is in fact Stevenson. I must have meant

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<v Speaker 1>I was one of those people to begin with. It

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<v Speaker 1>is really confusing and I feel like It's almost worked

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<v Speaker 1>in her favor since all these controversies have happened, because

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<v Speaker 1>people are calling her not by.

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<v Speaker 3>Her actual name.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. When Sarah first broke into the social media scene,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just her side hustle. She was starting to

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<v Speaker 1>become a teacher and also working in retail, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that she ever envisioned that this was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a huge business for her. Well, at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>there weren't really influencers like there are now. Well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think the word influencer was even around. It was

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<v Speaker 1>so weird watching her first video on YouTube from twenty

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen and hearing her describe her channel.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's throw to what she said.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything, you know, I really believe in the power of

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<v Speaker 2>Fritz vegetables and the Earth's you know, natural ingredients.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's pretty much what my Instagram's about. Second YouTube video,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah shared a recipe for a ducee that she claimed

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<v Speaker 1>would make you look good in a body con dress

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<v Speaker 1>but also turn your pooh red. This just says what

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<v Speaker 1>sort of time it was, though, the fact that it

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<v Speaker 1>was a body chondress those were very popular in twenty thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I do love the disclaimer though, because how many people

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<v Speaker 1>would have actually drunk it and gone oh shit. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like Sarah did the exactly same. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we need to wind the clock back ten years ago

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<v Speaker 1>and take a look at what was happening in the

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<v Speaker 1>health and fitness space in Australia when Sarah emerged on

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<v Speaker 1>the scene. So the year was twenty thirteen, Instagram was

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<v Speaker 1>entering its prime and a new era of beauty standards

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<v Speaker 1>were quickly being established online and the word fitzbo was

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<v Speaker 1>dominating our social media feeds. The term is short for

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<v Speaker 1>fitzpiration and it began trending as a response to the

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<v Speaker 1>concerning thinsbow trend that dominated the early naughties. So harmful

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<v Speaker 1>mottos and posts were being shared across blog sites and

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<v Speaker 1>social media channels, motivating dramatic weight loss. And with this

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<v Speaker 1>in hindsight, it's interesting to look back now and see

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<v Speaker 1>that fitspo was actually created to counteract thinspo by shifting

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<v Speaker 1>the focus to achieving fitness instead of thinness. So whilst

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<v Speaker 1>it was first intended to promote health.

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<v Speaker 3>Audiences were bombarded.

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<v Speaker 1>With these perfect bodies and clean eating on social media sites,

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<v Speaker 1>so the trend triggered obsessive behaviors, and it also created

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<v Speaker 1>impossible beauty standards to live up to. It even sparked

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<v Speaker 1>a new form of eating disorder known as orthorexia, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a condition that includes symptoms of obsessive behavior in

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<v Speaker 1>pursuit of a perceived healthy diet. So this ideal body

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<v Speaker 1>had changed amongst society. The new era of beauty was

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<v Speaker 1>epitomized by six pack abs, a peachy bum, and a

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<v Speaker 1>ripped body. I'm not sure if it's much of an

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<v Speaker 1>upgrade there from finspo. It's just another form of body

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<v Speaker 1>that's really hard to achieve now. Fitness influences were of

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<v Speaker 1>course at the heart of the fitspo movement, offering food

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<v Speaker 1>and fitness advice and often selling ebooks filled with eating

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<v Speaker 1>plans to encourage the strict avoidance of food like meat, sugar, dairy,

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<v Speaker 1>and wheat, and despite having no formal training, influencers advice

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<v Speaker 1>was being sought after more than medical professionals. The two

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<v Speaker 1>biggest names in the fitness space at the time were

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<v Speaker 1>ash Binds and Kayla at Cenus. Now, Ashy's online Bikini

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<v Speaker 1>Body Challenge launched in twenty eleven, while Kayla at Senus

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<v Speaker 1>launched her Bikini Bodyguide. In twenty fourteen, the pair became

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<v Speaker 1>instant millionaires. Both fitness plans included the word bikini and

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<v Speaker 1>it was all about flogging yourself in the gym to

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<v Speaker 1>be hashtag bikini ready. This was, of course, well before

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<v Speaker 1>the body positivity movement. Who now promote the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>you just need a bikini to be bikini ready? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>I want people to be honest. Who had which guide?

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<v Speaker 3>I had the Kayler at Cenis Guide and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't purchase it. It was a copy that seemed to

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<v Speaker 1>be passed on to a lot of people in our

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<v Speaker 1>friendship group. I had a few tatty pieces of paper. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that was the risk at the time, wasn't it. That

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<v Speaker 1>they're selling pdf so basically anyone could just send them around. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I had the said copy, but I actually got mine

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<v Speaker 1>bind so I have it still to this day. I

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<v Speaker 1>actually paid for mine. I'm guessing that's where we got

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<v Speaker 1>our copies from. Well. In twenty twenty one, Kayla announced

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<v Speaker 1>that she would be renaming her Bikini Bodyguide workouts to

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<v Speaker 1>High Intensity, as she felt the name represented an outdated

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<v Speaker 1>view of health and fitness, and this was after the

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<v Speaker 1>birth of her daughter Anna. She said that she felt

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<v Speaker 1>it was time to evolve and use language that feels

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<v Speaker 1>more positive for women today. So you can just see

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<v Speaker 1>how far we have come. And when you compare somebody

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<v Speaker 1>like Sarah to Kayla, I think one initially attracted people

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<v Speaker 1>to Sarah was that she was an oversharer. Yeah, because

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<v Speaker 1>all we really saw from Kayla were her incredible apps,

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<v Speaker 1>and at the time Instagram was really just a photo app.

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<v Speaker 1>We didn't see much video. So the fact that Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>was able to use YouTube to her advantage that early on,

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<v Speaker 1>and she has so much about her life is the

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<v Speaker 1>reason I think she is still very popular today exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And so many people were drawn to her YouTube channels

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<v Speaker 1>because she spoke a lot about her struggles with hormonal acne.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was her breakup in June twenty sixteen with

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<v Speaker 1>her long term boyfriend Match that started gaining her a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of traction.

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<v Speaker 2>Half day done at the snow, I have had a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a hiccup. The reason I'm here by myself

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<v Speaker 2>is to, I guess, do some soul searching and find

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<v Speaker 2>who I am again by myself being single. When I

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<v Speaker 2>was running down one of the mountains, I rode past

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<v Speaker 2>my ex boyfriend, so that didn't give me the best vibes. Ever,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't really get the fact that he's here out

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<v Speaker 2>of my head.

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<v Speaker 1>This clip went viral, and this is how so many

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<v Speaker 1>of her diehard supporters originally came across her content. In

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<v Speaker 1>a recent interview with influencer Grace Beverly, Sarah said that

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<v Speaker 1>this video pushed her channel onto YouTube's recommended page and

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<v Speaker 1>it actually led to her gaining over forty thousand new followers.

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<v Speaker 1>I always wondered what video it was that went viral

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<v Speaker 1>for her, because when you go back and look at

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<v Speaker 1>some of the old videos about her hormono acne, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but she went there with her content.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing stuff talking about like her periods, about

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<v Speaker 1>her discharge, like nothing is off limit when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to Sarah. I do find it also interesting that Sarah

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<v Speaker 1>very much in that interview with Grace Beverley, was saying

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<v Speaker 1>that you had to have abs and look a certain

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<v Speaker 1>way on YouTube and Instagram. But it's ironic that it

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<v Speaker 1>was actually her revealing all these details about her personal

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<v Speaker 1>life is actually.

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<v Speaker 3>What got her notice.

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<v Speaker 1>And I feel like she is still to this day

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<v Speaker 1>trying to rebel against that we saw her earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>the year not wanting to do vlogs anymore, but she

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<v Speaker 1>quickly always goes back to that medium because she knows

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<v Speaker 1>that's what people want to watch. And she really had

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<v Speaker 1>this ability to make followers feel like they were genuinely

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<v Speaker 1>her friends. And she does this by using specific language

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<v Speaker 1>on her channel, so she references her audience as being

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<v Speaker 1>her sissies. And she's also constantly using her own nickname Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to bring it back to her original deasy.

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<v Speaker 1>It sort of becomes endearing because you feel like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's Sezi, that's my friend. Yes, ironic that she's the

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<v Speaker 1>one pushing that name to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>A big turning point in Sarah's life and her YouTube

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<v Speaker 1>career came in November twenty sixteen, and this is when

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<v Speaker 1>she met her now husband.

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<v Speaker 3>Kurt tills So.

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<v Speaker 1>Just five months from her breakup with Mitch. She met

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt So. He was a carpenter by day and a

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<v Speaker 1>budding photographer on the weekends, and the pair had a

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<v Speaker 1>whirlwind romance. They became official after just a few weeks

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<v Speaker 1>of dating.

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<v Speaker 2>I normally want Baker eggs and he wants save because

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<v Speaker 2>he's a girl.

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<v Speaker 1>Look so great.

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<v Speaker 3>Hashtag comp golf.

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<v Speaker 1>There has been a lot of speculation online about how

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt and Sarah actually met, and the official line has

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<v Speaker 1>always been that they met organically, but word on the

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<v Speaker 1>street is that it was a Tinder meeting. I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>think that's correct because in her pregnancy announcement with her

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<v Speaker 1>first son, Fox, she said that her and Kurt met

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<v Speaker 1>up at ten o'clock for a coffee at a random

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<v Speaker 1>coffee shop in the city. That to me is the

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<v Speaker 1>epitome of a Tinder date. Nochee, because I feel like,

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<v Speaker 1>at this time and now everyone meets online. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's funny that they're trying to hide it. And I

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<v Speaker 1>remember in lots of log Sarah was saying that she

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<v Speaker 1>used to go walk down at the esplanade at Cernulla

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<v Speaker 1>to try and meet her husband. I think Tinder seems

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<v Speaker 1>like a much better spot other than just like smiling,

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<v Speaker 1>it passes by well. While their early relationship did look

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<v Speaker 1>magical online, Sarah recently revealed during an interview that she

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<v Speaker 1>was initially suss about Kurt's intentions, so on their second date,

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt basically love bombed her, and this led Sarah to

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<v Speaker 1>question his intention I actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't believe he said I love you on the second day.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it makes it pretty interesting because in this pregnancy announcement,

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah was saying that she thought she'd been friend zoned

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<v Speaker 1>and Kurt said it was love at first sight. And

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought that it was Sarah pushing the relationship

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<v Speaker 1>more than Kurt.

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<v Speaker 3>So this added a really interesting element.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think Sarah really was in the driver's seat

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<v Speaker 1>and calling a lot of shots in this relationship, because

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<v Speaker 1>she recently said on the Grace Beverly podcast that she

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<v Speaker 1>tried to break things off with Kurt only four months in,

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<v Speaker 1>which makes this timeline really interesting because they moved in

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<v Speaker 1>together after four months, so he must have either been Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to try and make this work or we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to end things. And at the time they were

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<v Speaker 1>complete couple goals. I remember watching their YouTube and being

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<v Speaker 1>single and being jealous of this beautiful relationship we were

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<v Speaker 1>seeing unfold. Well, you can see why Sarah was questioning

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<v Speaker 1>his intentions because at the time Kurt was living such

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<v Speaker 1>a different life to Sarah. He was a party boy

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<v Speaker 1>who had recently come out of a bad breakup, and

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<v Speaker 1>he found himself in debt and revealed on his podcast

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<v Speaker 1>The Health Coat that there were some weeks he couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>afford it tuna or rise.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's his staple, isn't it? For the six pack?

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<v Speaker 1>Really was that while he was hanging out with Sarah,

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<v Speaker 1>she had an abundance of.

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<v Speaker 3>General ross Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Kurt made the shock admission in twenty twenty two that

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<v Speaker 1>he was so poor at the time he looked into

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<v Speaker 1>drug dealing before meeting Sarah, and he also revealed he

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<v Speaker 1>was offered a job as a male stripper but couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>go through with it because he didn't have the confidence

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<v Speaker 1>to do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Or the rhythm. It seems like I think that was

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<v Speaker 3>a big factor.

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<v Speaker 1>Too, and this is perhaps why Sarah asked Kurt to

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<v Speaker 1>sign a contract on their second date. So after Kurt

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<v Speaker 1>professed his love to her, he also offered to help

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<v Speaker 1>her shoot the content for her very first e book,

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<v Speaker 1>and Sarah responded by getting him to sign a contract,

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<v Speaker 1>saying he wouldn't get a cut in it.

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<v Speaker 4>I was so suss of him.

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<v Speaker 2>I was so suss because he was a photographer and

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<v Speaker 2>I remember telling him I had this idea that I

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to make this fitness ebook right, and he was

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<v Speaker 2>a PT. He was a photographer. He was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>believe in you. I believe in your brand. Let me

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<v Speaker 2>sign off. Because I'm not a PT. You have to

0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:16.839
<v Speaker 2>have a PET sign off. He's like, let me look

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<v Speaker 2>at all your workouts. I'll sign it off and I'll

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<v Speaker 2>take all the photos. And I was like, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you want from me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>Like this was like a week. Literally.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you're not getting a cut of anything.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, So I made him sign a contract. This

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<v Speaker 2>was like our second date and I was living in

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<v Speaker 2>my parents' house. I had no money, I had nothing,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was like, who do you think you are?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I was, and I was like, I'm gonna be massive, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I made him sign this contract, which still we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it and I'm like, you still get no

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<v Speaker 2>cut of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I heard that, it surprised me. But then

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<v Speaker 1>when I reflect on Sarah's behavior around money, it always

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<v Speaker 1>really has been her money and Kurtz money. It's always this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is my house and this is my offers.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you blame her? Like this is this second

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<v Speaker 1>date she's on with this guy. I just told her

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<v Speaker 1>he loves her. When he's meant to be this bad

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<v Speaker 1>boy like she's obviously thinking, what the hell's going on? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think even if you're not a bad boy, not

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<v Speaker 1>too many normal people drop I love you a second date.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's pretty ballsy of her to rock up

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, sign this before we go any further,

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<v Speaker 1>particularly because she said she was just living at home

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, she had one hundred thousand subscribers. She

0:13:22.000 --> 0:13:24.400
<v Speaker 1>wasn't really a big deal like she is now. Makes

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<v Speaker 1>me think do they have a prenup? Probably? Well. After

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<v Speaker 1>making things YouTube official in late twenty sixteen, Kurt was

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<v Speaker 1>a constant feature on Sarah's channel, and Sarah and Kurt

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<v Speaker 1>became hashtag couple goals. So now she had the hot boyfriend,

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<v Speaker 1>a new beachside apartment, and she was living this very

0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:46.720
<v Speaker 1>esthetic couple goal Instagram life. I really enjoyed this time

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<v Speaker 1>during her content.

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<v Speaker 3>So did I.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was the most aspirational part of Sarah's

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<v Speaker 1>life so far. I think the craziest part of this

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<v Speaker 1>timeline is just days after moving in together, Sarah launched

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<v Speaker 1>her first ebook, Sweat.

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<v Speaker 3>To Shred It.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it was a little bit premature picking

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<v Speaker 1>out this sort of modest apartment because she quickly made

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money. Yes, sales came in so quickly

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<v Speaker 1>that her PayPal account got shut down because they deemed

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<v Speaker 1>it as suspicious activity. And while she didn't confirm how

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<v Speaker 1>much she made, she said she was able to.

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<v Speaker 3>Instantly wipe her UNI debt.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. She did say that over one thousand people wrapped

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<v Speaker 1>up to the ebook release, and this was actually at

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<v Speaker 1>her gym. She was worried no one would turn up,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was shocked when so many people arrived. But

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<v Speaker 1>think about it, sixty nine dollars a pop for Sweated

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<v Speaker 1>to shred It. That's over sixty nine thousand dollars if

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<v Speaker 1>each person bought an ebook, and that's just in person

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I did love the tidbit that her ex

0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:41.920
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend Mitch had noticed the crowd forming and did a

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<v Speaker 1>little well done text to her, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>He'd be spewing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. With Kurt now by her side, Sarah quickly brought

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<v Speaker 1>in sponsorship deals with Loving Earth, Trepeka, Lebang, White Fox Boutique,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mazda. She seemed to be living the dream, but

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<v Speaker 1>as we know with Instagram, it is a highlight reel

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<v Speaker 1>and whilst her life appeared perfect, it was far from reality.

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<v Speaker 1>So What people didn't know at the time was that

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<v Speaker 1>Sarah was suffering from what she has described as disordered eating.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what she said.

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<v Speaker 4>Honestly, I thought, how embarrassing that, like I'm on social

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<v Speaker 4>media to be this fitness person and like I look

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<v Speaker 4>like this. I honestly thought I had so much weight

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<v Speaker 4>to lose and I was so flabby and squishy, and

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<v Speaker 4>I look back, I'm like I look twelve. I was

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<v Speaker 4>so I was so lean, and not in a cool way,

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<v Speaker 4>in like a oh set, like what are you doing.

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<v Speaker 4>I truly eat for beautiful skin and beautiful hair and

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<v Speaker 4>a mind that can concentrate, like I eat so much

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<v Speaker 4>for my mind now.

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<v Speaker 1>So, whilst writing her e books, Sarah said she lost

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<v Speaker 1>her period and admitted in a recent interview that she

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<v Speaker 1>looked like a ripped twelve year old who was living

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<v Speaker 1>off a diet of chicken, pumpkin and protein shakes. She

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<v Speaker 1>even admitted to being shocked this year when an old

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<v Speaker 1>video of her popped up on YouTube as a recommendation,

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<v Speaker 1>and in this video, Sarah made toast with protein bread,

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<v Speaker 1>which she topped with protein powder. She obviously realized that

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<v Speaker 1>there was something wrong with the video, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as if she's deleted any of the offending videos, but

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<v Speaker 1>she's mentioned publicly how they were wrong, or they're clearly

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<v Speaker 1>making her money still and attracting an audience of people

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<v Speaker 1>who connect with her. I found it particularly disappointing that

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't say she regretted making that content, nor has

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<v Speaker 1>actually deleted it. They're all still monetized. Yeah. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>reality is that so many health and fitness influencers actually

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<v Speaker 1>suffer from eating disorders, and while their initial intentions to

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<v Speaker 1>share their lives online may not be negative, they need

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<v Speaker 1>to understand the power of social media and just how

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<v Speaker 1>many people they're impacting by sharing their unhealthy habits and

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<v Speaker 1>lifestyles online.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like Instagram and YouTube was a real breeding

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<v Speaker 1>ground for people who had eating disorders, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>almost a way to connect with like minded people, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's what was so dangerous about it, And now they

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<v Speaker 1>were looking back at it from ten years ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>just think it's really confronting that this sort of information

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<v Speaker 1>is one still allowed online and two not being removed

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<v Speaker 1>by the content creators. So another big theme of Sarah's

0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:12.960
<v Speaker 1>channel in the early days was PCs and period the

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<v Speaker 1>two piece, and in twenty fourteen, as she was documenting

0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:19.959
<v Speaker 1>her process of trying to naturally heal her acne, her

0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:24.120
<v Speaker 1>natural path diagnosed her with PCs via a saliva test.

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<v Speaker 1>Not sure how accurate that actually is now. Of course,

0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.760
<v Speaker 1>Sarah had a fix for it, which was car cycling,

0:17:31.040 --> 0:17:33.480
<v Speaker 1>and this was quite a common thing for Sarah to do.

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<v Speaker 1>She always seemed to have some kind of natural remedy

0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.080
<v Speaker 1>on hand to fix any illness. Yeah, and then you

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<v Speaker 1>fast forward two years later and Sarah was back at

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<v Speaker 1>the doctors because she had missed her period for eight months. Again,

0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.480
<v Speaker 1>this provided content for a YouTube series about how she

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<v Speaker 1>got her period back naturally. It's pretty wild to watch

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<v Speaker 1>this YouTube series back because Sarah said in one of

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<v Speaker 1>the videos that she was sixteen percent body fat and

0:17:57.960 --> 0:18:01.560
<v Speaker 1>weighed forty seven kilos when she lost her period. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the video she showed herself getting an ultrasound and

0:18:04.359 --> 0:18:07.320
<v Speaker 1>read out her blood test results, which was going into

0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:11.640
<v Speaker 1>way too much detail. She also filmed herself getting acupuncture,

0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.840
<v Speaker 1>and she later revealed that the doctor said her ovaries

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<v Speaker 1>indicated that she had PCOS, but the blood results didn't

0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:22.680
<v Speaker 1>reflect PCOS. So this PCOS diagnosis seems to have been

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<v Speaker 1>very sketchy. Well, it's something that people still talk about

0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.159
<v Speaker 1>online now, they still query whether she in fact had it.

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<v Speaker 1>And whilst I think it is wrong to be going

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<v Speaker 1>into these details, the truth is that Sarah let people

0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:38.359
<v Speaker 1>in by oversharing about her life. Who reads their own

0:18:38.400 --> 0:18:40.960
<v Speaker 1>blood tests out in a YouTube video, which is why

0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:42.840
<v Speaker 1>you can see why so many people were hooked to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if you guys remember, but at

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<v Speaker 1>the time, Sarah blamed the stress of releasing her first

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<v Speaker 1>e book coupled with training for her ebook, as the

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<v Speaker 1>reason for losing her period. However, in March this year,

0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:56.280
<v Speaker 1>Sarah provided an insight into this time of her life

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<v Speaker 1>on Grace Beverly's podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>I lost my peers and I look back and I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, CEIs, you weren't eating enough. You weren't eating enough.

0:19:05.200 --> 0:19:07.480
<v Speaker 2>I was going through a breakup. My job was to

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<v Speaker 2>work out. I was at the gym for three hours

0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:14.760
<v Speaker 2>a day, and I only ate protein, bread, protein, powder, fish, pumpkin.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is it. I didn't have my period, but I

0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:21.680
<v Speaker 2>was so encapsulated in that life and I thought, I

0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.119
<v Speaker 2>genuinely thought I was being so healthy and so hashtag

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<v Speaker 2>wellness that I was doing these videos saying I've lost

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<v Speaker 2>my period.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know why I have amn area.

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<v Speaker 2>You have amen area because your body's in flight or

0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.440
<v Speaker 2>flight and you're working out for three hours a day.

0:19:34.600 --> 0:19:37.040
<v Speaker 2>You're not eating enough calories, you're not sleeping enough, you're

0:19:37.040 --> 0:19:38.840
<v Speaker 2>getting up at five am to train, You're going to

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<v Speaker 2>bed at two am.

0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:41.640
<v Speaker 3>Because you don't have an editor, you're editing your own blogs.

0:19:42.560 --> 0:19:42.760
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I look back and I'm like, I just wish I

0:19:45.240 --> 0:19:48.360
<v Speaker 2>could talk to her and say, go and eat some sourdough. Yeah,

0:19:48.560 --> 0:19:49.359
<v Speaker 2>go for a walk.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to do that now.

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<v Speaker 1>At this time, although Sarah's following was rapidly growing, she

0:19:56.040 --> 0:20:00.320
<v Speaker 1>hadn't yet made a name for herself in the mainstream media. Already,

0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:03.240
<v Speaker 1>her followers were young women who were so invested in

0:20:03.280 --> 0:20:06.760
<v Speaker 1>her always esthetic and picture perfect life, just.

0:20:06.640 --> 0:20:07.919
<v Speaker 3>Like they did with their products.

0:20:08.000 --> 0:20:10.640
<v Speaker 1>They bought in big time, and there was a thirst

0:20:10.960 --> 0:20:12.879
<v Speaker 1>for her to let them in more. And whether she

0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.720
<v Speaker 1>liked to admit it or not, Sarah positioned herself as

0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:19.600
<v Speaker 1>a health expert and followers came to her for advice. Now,

0:20:19.600 --> 0:20:22.439
<v Speaker 1>despite her audience being vast, there was little to no

0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:26.040
<v Speaker 1>discourse in the mainstream media about whether the information she

0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:29.320
<v Speaker 1>was putting out to her impressionable audience was in fact

0:20:29.359 --> 0:20:34.200
<v Speaker 1>harmful and triggering eating disorders. In late twenty seventeen, however,

0:20:34.359 --> 0:20:37.159
<v Speaker 1>Sarah's name broke through to the mainstream for one of

0:20:37.160 --> 0:20:41.080
<v Speaker 1>her most memorable and harmful scandals. In late December of

0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that year, Sarah left her audience on a cliffhanger. At

0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:47.080
<v Speaker 1>the end of hervog, she wrote, I received a call

0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.000
<v Speaker 1>from my doctor. What she told me has shaken my

0:20:50.240 --> 0:20:53.399
<v Speaker 1>entire life. I needed time to understand and accept the

0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:56.480
<v Speaker 1>news before opening up. Thank you for caring. I will

0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.520
<v Speaker 1>share more in my next vlog. She left her audience

0:20:59.560 --> 0:21:02.840
<v Speaker 1>on edge for a week before releasing a YouTube video

0:21:03.040 --> 0:21:06.879
<v Speaker 1>entitled Heartbreaking News with a thumbnail of her crying, and

0:21:06.960 --> 0:21:09.640
<v Speaker 1>In this video, she revealed her perhaps smear had come

0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:12.760
<v Speaker 1>back with abnormalities and after follow up test, she had

0:21:12.800 --> 0:21:17.359
<v Speaker 1>been diagnosed with high grade cervical displasia. Now, despite her

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 1>gynecologist telling her to have the pre cancer of cells

0:21:20.400 --> 0:21:23.560
<v Speaker 1>surgically removed, she begged him to give her three more

0:21:23.560 --> 0:21:26.520
<v Speaker 1>months to see if she could cure it herself. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to highlight the use of the word cure here

0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.080
<v Speaker 1>because we are using it in quotations, but this is

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<v Speaker 1>in fact how she phrased.

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<v Speaker 3>It to her very impressionable audience.

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<v Speaker 2>A couple of months ago, I got my perhaps three

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<v Speaker 2>results back, So I have SIN three, which is high

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<v Speaker 2>grade circul displays. Sure went and got a biopsy. Your

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<v Speaker 2>kopos could be all this stuff, and you wanted to operate,

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<v Speaker 2>so obviously I wanted to see if my body could

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<v Speaker 2>heal itself on its own. Because if you have SIN one,

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<v Speaker 2>if you have the lowest grade of what I have,

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<v Speaker 2>your body can actually overcome it by itself heal itself.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was hoping that maybe if I ate in

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<v Speaker 2>a way and supplemented in a way that supported healing,

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<v Speaker 2>that maybe my steps could heal itself. I talked to

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<v Speaker 2>my gundacologists about it, and he gave me two months

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<v Speaker 2>to try to heal.

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<v Speaker 1>It on my own. And of course, Sarah decided she

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<v Speaker 1>would share this journey with her audience of over one

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<v Speaker 1>million people. And it was at this point Sarah's online

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<v Speaker 1>behavior began attracting mainstream criticism. And that's where we leave

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<v Speaker 1>today's episode. Next week, we will be diving head first

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<v Speaker 1>into what happened next as we unpack Sarah's biggest controversies.

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<v Speaker 1>This podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the

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<v Speaker 1>Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes.

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<v Speaker 3>We pay respects to elders past and present.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for listening to our first episode

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<v Speaker 1>about Spoken. Plus, we'll be back in your podcast feeds

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<v Speaker 1>next week with our second installment in our Sarah's Day

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<v Speaker 1>deep dive series.