1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,120 Speaker 1: Before we get into the episode, we want to issue 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: a trigger warning as the episode does touch on themes 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: relating to eating disorders. Episode one, The Rise of Sarah's Day. 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: Sarah Stevenson is one of Australia's biggest influences. Her YouTube channel, 5 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: Sarah's Day has over one point five million subscribers, while 6 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: her Instagram account boasts one point two million followers. 7 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: Good morning guys, an official walk back to my channel. 8 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: The self proclaimed holistic health princess cultivated a devoted following 9 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: for her raw approach and passion for health and fitness, 10 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: but in twenty seventeen, the tide began to turn when 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: Sarah claimed she had healed her cervical displacire through healthy eating. 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: The rest of this video is just telling you all 13 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: of the healthy ways that I cured my cervix and 14 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 2: how I am now free, pretty much free from cervical displacure. 15 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: She was slammed by the press was spreading medical misinformation, 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: and followers began to turn some. 17 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 2: Of the messages I'm getting you guys like full on 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 2: like hate, death threats. 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: Controversy has followed the thirty year old ever since, with 20 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: explosive reactions online to her every. 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: Move, one dollar will go towards Saint Vincent's bushfire appeal. 22 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:17,399 Speaker 2: I just got so much hate on that post. 23 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: She's been accused of cultural appropriation, targeting people with eating 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: disorders and taking down small businesses. We are journalist Amy 25 00:01:27,400 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: Kay and Sophie Torber and we're fascinated by the world 26 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: of influencers and the psychology of cancel culture. In this series, 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: we will delve into Sarah's Day's biggest scandals, her fall 28 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: from grace, cancel culture, and the dangers of influence. 29 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 3: This is outspoken plus. 30 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: When you say the name Sarah's Day, it attracts one 31 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: of two reactions. People either love her or hate her. 32 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: When Sarah first started out on Instagram in twenty thirteen, 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: she was this very relatable twenty year old girl who 34 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: came from a middle class family in Cranulla and originally 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: her channel was all about documenting her day, hence the 36 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: name Sarah's Day. Her channel name has led to so 37 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: much confusion because people think that Day is her last name, 38 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 1: when it is in fact Stevenson. I must have meant 39 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: I was one of those people to begin with. It 40 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: is really confusing and I feel like It's almost worked 41 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: in her favor since all these controversies have happened, because 42 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:21,959 Speaker 1: people are calling her not by. 43 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:22,640 Speaker 3: Her actual name. 44 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: Now. When Sarah first broke into the social media scene, 45 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: it was just her side hustle. She was starting to 46 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:30,800 Speaker 1: become a teacher and also working in retail, so I 47 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: don't think that she ever envisioned that this was going 48 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: to be a huge business for her. Well, at the time, 49 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: there weren't really influencers like there are now. Well, I 50 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: don't think the word influencer was even around. It was 51 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 1: so weird watching her first video on YouTube from twenty 52 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: thirteen and hearing her describe her channel. 53 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 3: Let's throw to what she said. 54 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: Everything, you know, I really believe in the power of 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: Fritz vegetables and the Earth's you know, natural ingredients. 56 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:01,239 Speaker 1: So that's pretty much what my Instagram's about. Second YouTube video, 57 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: Sarah shared a recipe for a ducee that she claimed 58 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: would make you look good in a body con dress 59 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: but also turn your pooh red. This just says what 60 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: sort of time it was, though, the fact that it 61 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: was a body chondress those were very popular in twenty thirteen. 62 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: I do love the disclaimer though, because how many people 63 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: would have actually drunk it and gone oh shit. Well, 64 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: it sounds like Sarah did the exactly same. I think 65 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: we need to wind the clock back ten years ago 66 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: and take a look at what was happening in the 67 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: health and fitness space in Australia when Sarah emerged on 68 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: the scene. So the year was twenty thirteen, Instagram was 69 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: entering its prime and a new era of beauty standards 70 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: were quickly being established online and the word fitzbo was 71 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: dominating our social media feeds. The term is short for 72 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: fitzpiration and it began trending as a response to the 73 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: concerning thinsbow trend that dominated the early naughties. So harmful 74 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: mottos and posts were being shared across blog sites and 75 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: social media channels, motivating dramatic weight loss. And with this 76 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: in hindsight, it's interesting to look back now and see 77 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: that fitspo was actually created to counteract thinspo by shifting 78 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: the focus to achieving fitness instead of thinness. So whilst 79 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: it was first intended to promote health. 80 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: Audiences were bombarded. 81 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: With these perfect bodies and clean eating on social media sites, 82 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: so the trend triggered obsessive behaviors, and it also created 83 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: impossible beauty standards to live up to. It even sparked 84 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: a new form of eating disorder known as orthorexia, which 85 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: is a condition that includes symptoms of obsessive behavior in 86 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: pursuit of a perceived healthy diet. So this ideal body 87 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: had changed amongst society. The new era of beauty was 88 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 1: epitomized by six pack abs, a peachy bum, and a 89 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: ripped body. I'm not sure if it's much of an 90 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 1: upgrade there from finspo. It's just another form of body 91 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: that's really hard to achieve now. Fitness influences were of 92 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: course at the heart of the fitspo movement, offering food 93 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: and fitness advice and often selling ebooks filled with eating 94 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: plans to encourage the strict avoidance of food like meat, sugar, dairy, 95 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: and wheat, and despite having no formal training, influencers advice 96 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:07,600 Speaker 1: was being sought after more than medical professionals. The two 97 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: biggest names in the fitness space at the time were 98 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: ash Binds and Kayla at Cenus. Now, Ashy's online Bikini 99 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: Body Challenge launched in twenty eleven, while Kayla at Senus 100 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: launched her Bikini Bodyguide. In twenty fourteen, the pair became 101 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: instant millionaires. Both fitness plans included the word bikini and 102 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: it was all about flogging yourself in the gym to 103 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: be hashtag bikini ready. This was, of course, well before 104 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: the body positivity movement. Who now promote the fact that 105 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: you just need a bikini to be bikini ready? Now? 106 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: I want people to be honest. Who had which guide? 107 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 3: I had the Kayler at Cenis Guide and I. 108 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,600 Speaker 1: Didn't purchase it. It was a copy that seemed to 109 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: be passed on to a lot of people in our 110 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: friendship group. I had a few tatty pieces of paper. Yeah, 111 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: that was the risk at the time, wasn't it. That 112 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 1: they're selling pdf so basically anyone could just send them around. Yeah, 113 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: I had the said copy, but I actually got mine 114 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: bind so I have it still to this day. I 115 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: actually paid for mine. I'm guessing that's where we got 116 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: our copies from. Well. In twenty twenty one, Kayla announced 117 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: that she would be renaming her Bikini Bodyguide workouts to 118 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: High Intensity, as she felt the name represented an outdated 119 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: view of health and fitness, and this was after the 120 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: birth of her daughter Anna. She said that she felt 121 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: it was time to evolve and use language that feels 122 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: more positive for women today. So you can just see 123 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: how far we have come. And when you compare somebody 124 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 1: like Sarah to Kayla, I think one initially attracted people 125 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,520 Speaker 1: to Sarah was that she was an oversharer. Yeah, because 126 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 1: all we really saw from Kayla were her incredible apps, 127 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: and at the time Instagram was really just a photo app. 128 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: We didn't see much video. So the fact that Sarah 129 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: was able to use YouTube to her advantage that early on, 130 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: and she has so much about her life is the 131 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: reason I think she is still very popular today exactly. 132 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,799 Speaker 1: And so many people were drawn to her YouTube channels 133 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: because she spoke a lot about her struggles with hormonal acne. 134 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: But it was her breakup in June twenty sixteen with 135 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 1: her long term boyfriend Match that started gaining her a 136 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: lot of traction. 137 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: Half day done at the snow, I have had a 138 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 2: bit of a hiccup. The reason I'm here by myself 139 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 2: is to, I guess, do some soul searching and find 140 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: who I am again by myself being single. When I 141 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: was running down one of the mountains, I rode past 142 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: my ex boyfriend, so that didn't give me the best vibes. Ever, 143 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 2: I can't really get the fact that he's here out 144 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 2: of my head. 145 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: This clip went viral, and this is how so many 146 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: of her diehard supporters originally came across her content. In 147 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: a recent interview with influencer Grace Beverly, Sarah said that 148 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: this video pushed her channel onto YouTube's recommended page and 149 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: it actually led to her gaining over forty thousand new followers. 150 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: I always wondered what video it was that went viral 151 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: for her, because when you go back and look at 152 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: some of the old videos about her hormono acne, it's 153 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 1: not really interesting. 154 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, but she went there with her content. 155 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: I remember seeing stuff talking about like her periods, about 156 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: her discharge, like nothing is off limit when it comes 157 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 1: to Sarah. I do find it also interesting that Sarah 158 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: very much in that interview with Grace Beverley, was saying 159 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: that you had to have abs and look a certain 160 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: way on YouTube and Instagram. But it's ironic that it 161 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: was actually her revealing all these details about her personal 162 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: life is actually. 163 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 3: What got her notice. 164 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: And I feel like she is still to this day 165 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: trying to rebel against that we saw her earlier in 166 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 1: the year not wanting to do vlogs anymore, but she 167 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: quickly always goes back to that medium because she knows 168 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 1: that's what people want to watch. And she really had 169 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: this ability to make followers feel like they were genuinely 170 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: her friends. And she does this by using specific language 171 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: on her channel, so she references her audience as being 172 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: her sissies. And she's also constantly using her own nickname Okay, 173 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 1: I just. 174 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 2: Want to bring it back to her original deasy. 175 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,079 Speaker 1: It sort of becomes endearing because you feel like, oh, 176 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: that's Sezi, that's my friend. Yes, ironic that she's the 177 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 1: one pushing that name to you. 178 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 2: Well. 179 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 1: A big turning point in Sarah's life and her YouTube 180 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: career came in November twenty sixteen, and this is when 181 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: she met her now husband. 182 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 3: Kurt tills So. 183 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: Just five months from her breakup with Mitch. She met 184 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: Kurt So. He was a carpenter by day and a 185 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 1: budding photographer on the weekends, and the pair had a 186 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: whirlwind romance. They became official after just a few weeks 187 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: of dating. 188 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: I normally want Baker eggs and he wants save because 189 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:14,680 Speaker 2: he's a girl. 190 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 1: Look so great. 191 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: Hashtag comp golf. 192 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: There has been a lot of speculation online about how 193 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 1: Kurt and Sarah actually met, and the official line has 194 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 1: always been that they met organically, but word on the 195 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,559 Speaker 1: street is that it was a Tinder meeting. I definitely 196 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: think that's correct because in her pregnancy announcement with her 197 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: first son, Fox, she said that her and Kurt met 198 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,680 Speaker 1: up at ten o'clock for a coffee at a random 199 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: coffee shop in the city. That to me is the 200 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 1: epitome of a Tinder date. Nochee, because I feel like, 201 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: at this time and now everyone meets online. I think 202 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: it's funny that they're trying to hide it. And I 203 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: remember in lots of log Sarah was saying that she 204 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: used to go walk down at the esplanade at Cernulla 205 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: to try and meet her husband. I think Tinder seems 206 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: like a much better spot other than just like smiling, 207 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: it passes by well. While their early relationship did look 208 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: magical online, Sarah recently revealed during an interview that she 209 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: was initially suss about Kurt's intentions, so on their second date, 210 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: Kurt basically love bombed her, and this led Sarah to 211 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,239 Speaker 1: question his intention I actually. 212 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 3: Can't believe he said I love you on the second day. 213 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: Well, it makes it pretty interesting because in this pregnancy announcement, 214 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 1: Sarah was saying that she thought she'd been friend zoned 215 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: and Kurt said it was love at first sight. And 216 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: I always thought that it was Sarah pushing the relationship 217 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: more than Kurt. 218 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 3: So this added a really interesting element. 219 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: Well, I think Sarah really was in the driver's seat 220 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: and calling a lot of shots in this relationship, because 221 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: she recently said on the Grace Beverly podcast that she 222 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: tried to break things off with Kurt only four months in, 223 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: which makes this timeline really interesting because they moved in 224 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: together after four months, so he must have either been Okay, 225 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: we're going to try and make this work or we're 226 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: going to end things. And at the time they were 227 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: complete couple goals. I remember watching their YouTube and being 228 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,320 Speaker 1: single and being jealous of this beautiful relationship we were 229 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: seeing unfold. Well, you can see why Sarah was questioning 230 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: his intentions because at the time Kurt was living such 231 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,040 Speaker 1: a different life to Sarah. He was a party boy 232 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: who had recently come out of a bad breakup, and 233 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 1: he found himself in debt and revealed on his podcast 234 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: The Health Coat that there were some weeks he couldn't 235 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,679 Speaker 1: afford it tuna or rise. 236 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 3: And that's his staple, isn't it? For the six pack? 237 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: Really was that while he was hanging out with Sarah, 238 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 1: she had an abundance of. 239 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 3: General ross Well. 240 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: Kurt made the shock admission in twenty twenty two that 241 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: he was so poor at the time he looked into 242 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: drug dealing before meeting Sarah, and he also revealed he 243 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: was offered a job as a male stripper but couldn't 244 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:39,960 Speaker 1: go through with it because he didn't have the confidence 245 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 1: to do it. 246 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 3: Or the rhythm. It seems like I think that was 247 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 3: a big factor. 248 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: Too, and this is perhaps why Sarah asked Kurt to 249 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: sign a contract on their second date. So after Kurt 250 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: professed his love to her, he also offered to help 251 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: her shoot the content for her very first e book, 252 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: and Sarah responded by getting him to sign a contract, 253 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: saying he wouldn't get a cut in it. 254 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 4: I was so suss of him. 255 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 2: I was so suss because he was a photographer and 256 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: I remember telling him I had this idea that I 257 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 2: wanted to make this fitness ebook right, and he was 258 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 2: a PT. He was a photographer. He was like, I 259 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: believe in you. I believe in your brand. Let me 260 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 2: sign off. Because I'm not a PT. You have to 261 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:16,839 Speaker 2: have a PET sign off. He's like, let me look 262 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: at all your workouts. I'll sign it off and I'll 263 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 2: take all the photos. And I was like, what do 264 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: you want from me? 265 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah? 266 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 3: Like this was like a week. Literally. 267 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 2: I was like, you're not getting a cut of anything. 268 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 2: I mean, So I made him sign a contract. This 269 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: was like our second date and I was living in 270 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 2: my parents' house. I had no money, I had nothing, 271 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 2: and he was like, who do you think you are? 272 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 2: Like I was, and I was like, I'm gonna be massive, Okay, 273 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: So I made him sign this contract, which still we 274 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 2: talk about it and I'm like, you still get no 275 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 2: cut of it. 276 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:49,559 Speaker 1: But when I heard that, it surprised me. But then 277 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 1: when I reflect on Sarah's behavior around money, it always 278 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 1: really has been her money and Kurtz money. It's always this. 279 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 3: Is my house and this is my offers. 280 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: But do you blame her? Like this is this second 281 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: date she's on with this guy. I just told her 282 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: he loves her. When he's meant to be this bad 283 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: boy like she's obviously thinking, what the hell's going on? Well, 284 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: I think even if you're not a bad boy, not 285 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: too many normal people drop I love you a second date. 286 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: I think it's pretty ballsy of her to rock up 287 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: and be like, sign this before we go any further, 288 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: particularly because she said she was just living at home 289 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: at the time, she had one hundred thousand subscribers. She 290 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: wasn't really a big deal like she is now. Makes 291 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: me think do they have a prenup? Probably? Well. After 292 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: making things YouTube official in late twenty sixteen, Kurt was 293 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: a constant feature on Sarah's channel, and Sarah and Kurt 294 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,359 Speaker 1: became hashtag couple goals. So now she had the hot boyfriend, 295 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: a new beachside apartment, and she was living this very 296 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: esthetic couple goal Instagram life. I really enjoyed this time 297 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: during her content. 298 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: So did I. 299 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: I think it was the most aspirational part of Sarah's 300 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: life so far. I think the craziest part of this 301 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: timeline is just days after moving in together, Sarah launched 302 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 1: her first ebook, Sweat. 303 00:13:58,920 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 3: To Shred It. 304 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: And I think it was a little bit premature picking 305 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: out this sort of modest apartment because she quickly made 306 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 1: a lot of money. Yes, sales came in so quickly 307 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: that her PayPal account got shut down because they deemed 308 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: it as suspicious activity. And while she didn't confirm how 309 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: much she made, she said she was able to. 310 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 3: Instantly wipe her UNI debt. 311 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: Well. She did say that over one thousand people wrapped 312 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: up to the ebook release, and this was actually at 313 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: her gym. She was worried no one would turn up, 314 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: so it was shocked when so many people arrived. But 315 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: think about it, sixty nine dollars a pop for Sweated 316 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: to shred It. That's over sixty nine thousand dollars if 317 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: each person bought an ebook, and that's just in person 318 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: as well. I did love the tidbit that her ex 319 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: boyfriend Mitch had noticed the crowd forming and did a 320 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 1: little well done text to her, Yeah. 321 00:14:44,960 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 3: He'd be spewing. 322 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: Well. With Kurt now by her side, Sarah quickly brought 323 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: in sponsorship deals with Loving Earth, Trepeka, Lebang, White Fox Boutique, 324 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: and Mazda. She seemed to be living the dream, but 325 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: as we know with Instagram, it is a highlight reel 326 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: and whilst her life appeared perfect, it was far from reality. 327 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: So What people didn't know at the time was that 328 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: Sarah was suffering from what she has described as disordered eating. 329 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 3: Here's what she said. 330 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 4: Honestly, I thought, how embarrassing that, like I'm on social 331 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: media to be this fitness person and like I look 332 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 4: like this. I honestly thought I had so much weight 333 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: to lose and I was so flabby and squishy, and 334 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 4: I look back, I'm like I look twelve. I was 335 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 4: so I was so lean, and not in a cool way, 336 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 4: in like a oh set, like what are you doing. 337 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 4: I truly eat for beautiful skin and beautiful hair and 338 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 4: a mind that can concentrate, like I eat so much 339 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: for my mind now. 340 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,680 Speaker 1: So, whilst writing her e books, Sarah said she lost 341 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: her period and admitted in a recent interview that she 342 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: looked like a ripped twelve year old who was living 343 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: off a diet of chicken, pumpkin and protein shakes. She 344 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: even admitted to being shocked this year when an old 345 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: video of her popped up on YouTube as a recommendation, 346 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: and in this video, Sarah made toast with protein bread, 347 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: which she topped with protein powder. She obviously realized that 348 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: there was something wrong with the video, but it's not 349 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 1: as if she's deleted any of the offending videos, but 350 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: she's mentioned publicly how they were wrong, or they're clearly 351 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: making her money still and attracting an audience of people 352 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: who connect with her. I found it particularly disappointing that 353 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: she didn't say she regretted making that content, nor has 354 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: actually deleted it. They're all still monetized. Yeah. Well, the 355 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 1: reality is that so many health and fitness influencers actually 356 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: suffer from eating disorders, and while their initial intentions to 357 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 1: share their lives online may not be negative, they need 358 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: to understand the power of social media and just how 359 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: many people they're impacting by sharing their unhealthy habits and 360 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: lifestyles online. 361 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing. 362 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: I feel like Instagram and YouTube was a real breeding 363 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: ground for people who had eating disorders, and it was 364 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: almost a way to connect with like minded people, and 365 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 1: that's what was so dangerous about it, And now they 366 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: were looking back at it from ten years ago. I 367 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 1: just think it's really confronting that this sort of information 368 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: is one still allowed online and two not being removed 369 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: by the content creators. So another big theme of Sarah's 370 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: channel in the early days was PCs and period the 371 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 1: two piece, and in twenty fourteen, as she was documenting 372 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,959 Speaker 1: her process of trying to naturally heal her acne, her 373 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 1: natural path diagnosed her with PCs via a saliva test. 374 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 1: Not sure how accurate that actually is now. Of course, 375 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 1: Sarah had a fix for it, which was car cycling, 376 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: and this was quite a common thing for Sarah to do. 377 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,360 Speaker 1: She always seemed to have some kind of natural remedy 378 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,080 Speaker 1: on hand to fix any illness. Yeah, and then you 379 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 1: fast forward two years later and Sarah was back at 380 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 1: the doctors because she had missed her period for eight months. Again, 381 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: this provided content for a YouTube series about how she 382 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: got her period back naturally. It's pretty wild to watch 383 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: this YouTube series back because Sarah said in one of 384 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: the videos that she was sixteen percent body fat and 385 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: weighed forty seven kilos when she lost her period. And 386 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: in the video she showed herself getting an ultrasound and 387 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: read out her blood test results, which was going into 388 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: way too much detail. She also filmed herself getting acupuncture, 389 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: and she later revealed that the doctor said her ovaries 390 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:18,639 Speaker 1: indicated that she had PCOS, but the blood results didn't 391 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 1: reflect PCOS. So this PCOS diagnosis seems to have been 392 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: very sketchy. Well, it's something that people still talk about 393 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: online now, they still query whether she in fact had it. 394 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: And whilst I think it is wrong to be going 395 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: into these details, the truth is that Sarah let people 396 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 1: in by oversharing about her life. Who reads their own 397 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: blood tests out in a YouTube video, which is why 398 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: you can see why so many people were hooked to it. 399 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you guys remember, but at 400 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,639 Speaker 1: the time, Sarah blamed the stress of releasing her first 401 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 1: e book coupled with training for her ebook, as the 402 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: reason for losing her period. However, in March this year, 403 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: Sarah provided an insight into this time of her life 404 00:18:56,359 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: on Grace Beverly's podcast. 405 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 4: I lost my peers and I look back and I'm. 406 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 2: Like, CEIs, you weren't eating enough. You weren't eating enough. 407 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: I was going through a breakup. My job was to 408 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 2: work out. I was at the gym for three hours 409 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: a day, and I only ate protein, bread, protein, powder, fish, pumpkin. 410 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: That's it. 411 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 2: That is it. I didn't have my period, but I 412 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,680 Speaker 2: was so encapsulated in that life and I thought, I 413 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:25,119 Speaker 2: genuinely thought I was being so healthy and so hashtag 414 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: wellness that I was doing these videos saying I've lost 415 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: my period. 416 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 4: I don't know why I have amn area. 417 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,399 Speaker 2: You have amen area because your body's in flight or 418 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 2: flight and you're working out for three hours a day. 419 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: You're not eating enough calories, you're not sleeping enough, you're 420 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 2: getting up at five am to train, You're going to 421 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 2: bed at two am. 422 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 3: Because you don't have an editor, you're editing your own blogs. 423 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: You know. 424 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 2: I look back and I'm like, I just wish I 425 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 2: could talk to her and say, go and eat some sourdough. Yeah, 426 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 2: go for a walk. 427 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: You don't have to do that now. 428 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: At this time, although Sarah's following was rapidly growing, she 429 00:19:56,040 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: hadn't yet made a name for herself in the mainstream media. Already, 430 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: her followers were young women who were so invested in 431 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: her always esthetic and picture perfect life, just. 432 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 3: Like they did with their products. 433 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: They bought in big time, and there was a thirst 434 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: for her to let them in more. And whether she 435 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: liked to admit it or not, Sarah positioned herself as 436 00:20:15,760 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: a health expert and followers came to her for advice. Now, 437 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 1: despite her audience being vast, there was little to no 438 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: discourse in the mainstream media about whether the information she 439 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: was putting out to her impressionable audience was in fact 440 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 1: harmful and triggering eating disorders. In late twenty seventeen, however, 441 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 1: Sarah's name broke through to the mainstream for one of 442 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: her most memorable and harmful scandals. In late December of 443 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: that year, Sarah left her audience on a cliffhanger. At 444 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 1: the end of hervog, she wrote, I received a call 445 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: from my doctor. What she told me has shaken my 446 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: entire life. I needed time to understand and accept the 447 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: news before opening up. Thank you for caring. I will 448 00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: share more in my next vlog. She left her audience 449 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: on edge for a week before releasing a YouTube video 450 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 1: entitled Heartbreaking News with a thumbnail of her crying, and 451 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: In this video, she revealed her perhaps smear had come 452 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: back with abnormalities and after follow up test, she had 453 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: been diagnosed with high grade cervical displasia. Now, despite her 454 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: gynecologist telling her to have the pre cancer of cells 455 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: surgically removed, she begged him to give her three more 456 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: months to see if she could cure it herself. I 457 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 1: want to highlight the use of the word cure here 458 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: because we are using it in quotations, but this is 459 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: in fact how she phrased. 460 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:35,760 Speaker 3: It to her very impressionable audience. 461 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 2: A couple of months ago, I got my perhaps three 462 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:40,640 Speaker 2: results back, So I have SIN three, which is high 463 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: grade circul displays. Sure went and got a biopsy. Your 464 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 2: kopos could be all this stuff, and you wanted to operate, 465 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 2: so obviously I wanted to see if my body could 466 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 2: heal itself on its own. Because if you have SIN one, 467 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: if you have the lowest grade of what I have, 468 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 2: your body can actually overcome it by itself heal itself. 469 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: So I was hoping that maybe if I ate in 470 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 2: a way and supplemented in a way that supported healing, 471 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,359 Speaker 2: that maybe my steps could heal itself. I talked to 472 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: my gundacologists about it, and he gave me two months 473 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:06,960 Speaker 2: to try to heal. 474 00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,199 Speaker 1: It on my own. And of course, Sarah decided she 475 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: would share this journey with her audience of over one 476 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: million people. And it was at this point Sarah's online 477 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: behavior began attracting mainstream criticism. And that's where we leave 478 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,200 Speaker 1: today's episode. Next week, we will be diving head first 479 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: into what happened next as we unpack Sarah's biggest controversies. 480 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 1: This podcast was recorded on the traditional land of the 481 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: Ghana people of the Adelaide Planes. 482 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 3: We pay respects to elders past and present. 483 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening to our first episode 484 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: about Spoken. Plus, we'll be back in your podcast feeds 485 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 1: next week with our second installment in our Sarah's Day 486 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: deep dive series.