WEBVTT - AITA For Turning My Car Around On My BF 🚗 0:00:01.520 --> 0:00:04.440 Flex and Frooms, Flex and Frooms. This is the Flex 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:10.400 and Frooms catch up podcast. You're with Flex and Frooms. 0:00:10.560 --> 0:00:14.120 And there's two types of people in the world, those 0:00:14.200 --> 0:00:16.960 that entertain and those that observe. That's what Britney Spears 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:19.560 said two thousand and seven. She meant it, and she mean, 0:00:19.680 --> 0:00:23.000 she really meant and she was right Pinopticon state manifest 0:00:23.079 --> 0:00:25.520 in that woman. There's also two types of people when 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:29.280 it comes to dining out or eating out if you will, But. 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:32.040 We won't get into that. We won't get into that. 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:33.040 Sony. 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:37.239 I was at to dinner with some friends the other night, 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:39.400 four of us, right, good friends. We go out for 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.720 dinner every quarter, and I just thought, I'm just gonna 0:00:42.720 --> 0:00:44.640 pay for the bill this time, not the whole thing, 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:47.680 not the whole thing, pay for it. 0:00:47.760 --> 0:00:49.360 Knowing that they're gonna give you the money back, right. 0:00:49.440 --> 0:00:50.239 Yeah. 0:00:50.360 --> 0:00:52.960 Then it comes to do you want to leave a tip? 0:00:53.000 --> 0:00:55.400 And I thought, I'm gonna have to because the guy's 0:00:55.440 --> 0:00:57.280 next to me, and he was very nice and agree 0:00:57.320 --> 0:01:00.800 to me. So I added another little two dollars, Well 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:02.960 two dollar, my man, he'll crumb. 0:01:05.480 --> 0:01:06.920 The ons was hanging out the bottom of your back 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:07.960 the last sixty. 0:01:07.800 --> 0:01:13.440 Years gone on it, but it got me thinking, like 0:01:14.520 --> 0:01:17.039 everyone's gonna have to pay me back. Let's say I 0:01:17.080 --> 0:01:18.400 did a ten dollar tip. 0:01:18.840 --> 0:01:19.240 Does that? 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.479 Does that go into the corn that they have to pay? 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.600 Who has to pay for the tip? 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:24.080 On top? 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:32.440 I hate this because it's my relationship to tipping and 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:34.360 any kind of money or into things that it comes to. 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:39.520 Entertainment's nonsensical, right, Even I only started properly, like ordering 0:01:39.640 --> 0:01:43.959 drinks like alcoholic beverages out to dinner last year. Before then, 0:01:44.080 --> 0:01:46.200 when the bill would come, I'd split evenly. I don't 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:47.600 want to deal with that. Just split it, split it, 0:01:47.640 --> 0:01:51.960 split split it, babe, Because number one, I like treating people, 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:53.720 and if I'm going out to eat dinner with you, 0:01:53.760 --> 0:01:55.760 I probably like you quite a bit, like we're friends. 0:01:55.760 --> 0:02:00.480 So I don't mind doing that. However, matching general energy 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.760 with stingy energy is very interesting because yes, in theory, 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:05.760 if we're if we're doing a tip, I mean you 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:07.760 pressed the button. It was your decision, so maybe that 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:09.840 that was on you, that was the two dollars that 0:02:09.960 --> 0:02:11.640 was on you. But let's say you're gonna split it 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:15.000 four ways, have having to fix your tongue and teeth 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:20.280 to say, hey, everyone, just an extra forty seven cents 0:02:20.320 --> 0:02:22.080 to go on the head, because if we're getting out 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:25.000 the calculator, if we're getting out the calculator, it's too 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.079 much maths for the occasion. If I'm now hearing the 0:02:28.120 --> 0:02:32.359 paper scrunch has been passed around the table, no, no, 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:32.919 but how it is? 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:38.680 You know it's fifty dollars forty two cents each and 0:02:38.720 --> 0:02:39.680 I paid for it? 0:02:39.400 --> 0:02:41.600 Do I round down? And do I round up? Do 0:02:41.680 --> 0:02:43.240 I round down to fifty? 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:48.920 Splitting it four ways? Everybody owes you twelve dollars fifty 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:51.840 and you're paying the extra forty seven cents? 0:02:52.960 --> 0:02:54.760 Yes, I say, well that was quick maths. 0:02:54.960 --> 0:02:56.040 I'm actually quite smart. 0:02:56.160 --> 0:02:58.320 So you round it up though, like you're losing out 0:02:58.320 --> 0:02:59.960 about twelve cents all over. 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.920 Realistically, though, I think that restaurants should be figuring this 0:03:03.960 --> 0:03:07.840 out for us, because I've had a couple of weird situations, okay, 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:12.639 And I don't know if this is a personal beef 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:16.960 I have with man waiters. I don't know what it is, 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:19.839 But why am I on dates or hanging out with men? 0:03:19.880 --> 0:03:21.840 And then you come at the end and say, how 0:03:21.840 --> 0:03:27.079 are we paying? Everyone? Whose side are you on because 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.480 because now now we're looking at me, I'm looking at them, 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:33.520 and this happens. It's like a three second interaction. But 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:36.000 you could have just brought the f POS machine with 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:38.640 the bill printed and placed it in front of this 0:03:38.720 --> 0:03:42.440 gentle king who would definitely be paying if you had 0:03:42.480 --> 0:03:43.360 not posed the question. 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:45.120 Yeah, it's a leading question. 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:48.160 It's a leading question. So now I got to jump 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.320 in and be like, okay, cool, we'll split. I don't 0:03:51.320 --> 0:03:53.480 want to do that, and I wanted to masculating. This 0:03:53.640 --> 0:03:56.520 king to my right doesn't want to split, but unfortunately 0:03:56.520 --> 0:04:00.200 you've left us no choice. Now eve embarrassed us. We 0:04:00.200 --> 0:04:00.920 look frugal. 0:04:03.960 --> 0:04:06.280 Let's frival flex into the chat. 0:04:06.520 --> 0:04:08.160 It's disappointing and I don't want to do it. So 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:11.280 this is a p s A. If you work at 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:14.920 a service based place that involves splitting bills and there 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.400 is something that looks like could be romantic, put the 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:19.480 bill in front of the man. 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.360 Put it down. Okay, I don't. 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.520 Care what you want to say about gender roles in 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:27.479 front of the man and we'll talk about it later. 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:30.680 What about the same sex relationship? 0:04:31.480 --> 0:04:34.080 Put the bill? Okay? This is what you should do 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.520 if you're not quite sure. Put the put the FPOs 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.760 machine and the bill dead center, facing left or right, 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.400 not facing anyone. It's like a standoff. He's gonna grab first. 0:04:44.760 --> 0:04:45.680 Oh I love that. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:48.960 Wait, let that let that MARINATEE marinade? 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:50.680 Yeah, isn't it marinate? 0:04:52.000 --> 0:04:54.520 But meaning to ask you that let that marinate? 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:57.640 Oh? I guess you marinate with a marinade. 0:04:57.680 --> 0:04:59.840 That's it? Flex and frooms. 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:02.200 We do have a long Am I the asshole here? 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.920 But it's bound to be juicy, so as always, comprehension 0:05:04.920 --> 0:05:09.600 hats on there on listening. Ear is open open? Am 0:05:09.640 --> 0:05:12.600 I the asshole for turning around in my car when 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:15.160 I saw that my boyfriend brought his friends with him 0:05:15.240 --> 0:05:19.280 to go on a trip with us? Already? Not the asshole. 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:22.239 I am a thirty year old woman and I'm dating 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:25.360 my boyfriend, let's call him Smith, who's thirty nine years old. 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.719 Have been dating for eight months. We've been planning to 0:05:27.720 --> 0:05:29.800 go on a road trip, but it couldn't happen because 0:05:29.800 --> 0:05:32.520 he kept insisting that we let his two friends tag along. 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:36.160 He doesn't want to hang out with you want one? 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:38.760 He brought it up again and promised that he won't 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:40.360 ask me to let him bring his friends with him, 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.480 since number one, I'm the one paying for the expenses, 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.839 and number two it's my car, and number three, I 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:49.080 always wanted us to go alone for once without having 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:51.440 his friends tag along, and number four, I don't want 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.760 to pay for his friends. We agreed that I come 0:05:53.760 --> 0:05:55.320 pick him up in the morning so we could go. 0:05:55.600 --> 0:05:57.640 I came in my car and entered his neighborhood. However, 0:05:57.640 --> 0:05:59.680 when I saw him standing outside with his bag and 0:05:59.680 --> 0:06:01.880 his two friends were also standing there with their bags, 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:04.560 I was shocked and furious. I didn't pull over. I 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:06.799 just turned around and kept driving and went back home. 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:09.360 I saw him running after me in the rearview mirror. 0:06:09.520 --> 0:06:11.640 He then stopped and started calling me. I didn't respond 0:06:11.720 --> 0:06:14.960 till I got home. He lashed out on me on 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.560 the phone, asking why the hell I turned around and left. 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.560 I told him why now. I told him why and 0:06:19.640 --> 0:06:21.919 how I didn't appreciate how he basically tried to force 0:06:22.000 --> 0:06:24.440 me to take his friends with us after I said 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.640 no already. He called me awful and said that I 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.720 ruined the entire thing for us and acted immaturely and spitefully. 0:06:29.839 --> 0:06:31.520 He said I could have just accepted it how it is, 0:06:31.560 --> 0:06:33.080 But I told him that I would never accept being 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.240 put in a situation where I'm expected to just suck 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:36.840 it up. He hung up after young at me for 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:38.880 a few minutes. I called back. We've got no response. 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.520 WHOA He texted me about how I embarrassed him in 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:45.480 front of his friends and is refusing to speak to 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:48.719 me until I apologize. Am I the asshole turning around? 0:06:48.839 --> 0:06:51.240 Or did I make the right call? Can I just say? 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:55.039 Is this giving serial killer vibes? Anyone else getting that 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:59.160 from him and his friends? Oh? Yes, there's something thing 0:06:59.279 --> 0:07:03.960 for militia is a foot? Why is why? I just 0:07:03.960 --> 0:07:06.480 know when I feel it. My spidery senses are tingling. 0:07:06.920 --> 0:07:07.839 It's like a baby. 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:09.720 It's like you're in the gestational period. 0:07:09.800 --> 0:07:12.160 It's a package deal. Unfortunately you didn't buy it for this, 0:07:12.240 --> 0:07:15.320 and it's like buy one, get too free. But now 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.760 these two things have expenses. It's a really odd situation because, 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:21.160 like we said before, there's something about those early stages 0:07:21.160 --> 0:07:23.240 of a relationship where you want to be the ideal 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:26.280 partner and by doing that, you present yourself as being 0:07:26.280 --> 0:07:28.880 the ideal friend to your partner's friends. We get at, 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:31.440 we get at, but in this instance, there's something so 0:07:31.520 --> 0:07:33.800 sinister about wanting to have a one on one getaway 0:07:33.800 --> 0:07:36.080 with your boo. You're having to pay and drive. We 0:07:36.120 --> 0:07:39.720 won't get into it different conversation, but your boo insisting 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.440 that his two friends come along, and then when you 0:07:42.480 --> 0:07:45.840 say no multiple times, instead of just heating that on 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:47.080 the day when you got to pick him up in 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:48.760 your car that you pay for to get on a 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:50.800 trip that you're paying for, his two friends are just 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:53.200 their bags in hand. What do they think is happening? 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:57.920 I think we said before the break that there is 0:07:57.960 --> 0:07:59.200 a cereal. 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:05.200 Yeah, I don't want killing, No, something sinister, something sinister for. 0:08:05.200 --> 0:08:08.720 Me, I'm getting visions of Blair Witch project. 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:11.120 Absolutely, And if it's not on that vein of sinister, 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.280 I just think that while you may think you're doing 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:18.080 boyfriend and girlfriend, you are his payday. Like he's just like, 0:08:18.120 --> 0:08:20.840 I've got a situation here. She pays for everything. She's 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.480 really down, no problem, just come on this trip. It'll 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:25.720 be hilarious. We'll go to this fun place, have a 0:08:25.720 --> 0:08:28.080 boy's weekend. Yeah, yeah, she'll be there. She'll be there, 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.600 but she'll pay for everything. And that's what's going on. 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:35.120 That's not your boyfriend. You said thirty nine and he's 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.640 you're thirty. Yeah, and you're paying for the trip. That's 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:39.240 not your boyfriend. 0:08:39.320 --> 0:08:40.400 You got the short stick of everything. 0:08:40.400 --> 0:08:46.959 You're babysitting. You have a child that sucks. I don't 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:48.640 want to say dump him, but you're not the asshole 0:08:48.679 --> 0:08:50.960 for sure. But definitely do some stock take because if 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:53.559 this feels like the way that you've written this, am 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:55.960 I the asshole feels like you're used to this caliber 0:08:56.000 --> 0:08:58.800 of weirdness, and that's worrying me. This is becoming a 0:08:58.840 --> 0:09:00.000 regular occurrence for you. 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:02.440 I love the vision of her driving away and him 0:09:02.480 --> 0:09:07.880 running up. That's I Oh, I would relish in that. Yeah, 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:12.559 I love Thatita flex and fromes flex and fromes. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.400 Question of the Day? Is Netflix going extinct? Yes or no? 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:15.760 For me? 0:09:16.160 --> 0:09:17.800 Nop oh. 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:19.760 And that's not just because you've got stock for. 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:24.719 Look, a few things have happened in the last I 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:27.360 don't know, two years or so, since you know the 0:09:27.480 --> 0:09:31.560 twenty twenty, let's not go into that. The prices going up. Yes, 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:36.320 they've introduced a cheaper option with ads as refining. Is 0:09:36.320 --> 0:09:39.880 that why we don't have regular TV? Because the streaming 0:09:39.920 --> 0:09:41.720 ones don't have ads. I don't want to talk about 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:46.320 it the options on the actual platform, So so I 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:48.680 know there's a catalog of like a bajillion things, but 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:51.360 whatever they send to me, it's derivative. It's the same 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:57.920 thing in different so I've seen it. And also their 0:09:58.000 --> 0:09:59.920 heaps of competition last year to do a stock take. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.280 You know, you got look at your little statements. Your 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.200 money is going out. I just start sharing logins, I said, 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.600 I don't need to pay for my own Disney Plus. Okay, 0:10:08.200 --> 0:10:10.520 we can collab on this one, babes. And that's what 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.440 is happening currently with Netflix. They're cracking down on password sharing. 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.840 They say they estimate that of all the people subscribing 0:10:17.880 --> 0:10:21.400 to Netflix currently, they're about three to five extra people 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:25.480 have access to that one account. Obviously giving back to 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.840 the community. Now they fear that they're losing out on revenue. 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:32.760 Obviously that feels like a no brainer. So what they're 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:36.000 proposing is that every month you get automatically logged out 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.679 of Netflix, and you have to log back into your 0:10:38.679 --> 0:10:41.880 own Netflix account on your IP or whatever that is 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:45.280 with the same IP address, so they know that you 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:48.440 are the sole owner and the sole user of that account. 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:51.599 But fear not. If you want to share your password, 0:10:51.840 --> 0:10:55.160 you can for a small fee. What's the fee? 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:59.000 Listening? You're piscing me off, You're piscing me right off. 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.800 It's you know, we've talked about subscriptions before, which was 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.280 like an odd phrase to say, but we talked about 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:08.280 I think it was BMW who was offering subscriptions to 0:11:08.360 --> 0:11:12.520 unlock certain parts of your car, like the heated steering wheel, 0:11:13.000 --> 0:11:16.200 so insane, and like the back lights or whatever. I 0:11:16.240 --> 0:11:19.200 don't know, but it's becoming more of this, you know. 0:11:19.240 --> 0:11:21.680 What's that saying? Like, you know, the future of the 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:23.559 way we see the world is that you'll own You'll 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.600 own nothing and be happy. Like the idea of ownership 0:11:26.640 --> 0:11:30.440 is going to be so dystopian, so such a thing 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.760 of the past, because now we're paying a subscription to 0:11:32.800 --> 0:11:35.080 have access to watch these things. We don't own them, 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:36.720 we get to watch them. And now if I want 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:38.960 someone else to watch them, we're gonna pay again for 0:11:39.040 --> 0:11:41.680 the same thing that I'm already paying for to watch. 0:11:42.080 --> 0:11:44.080 That's me and my rent And. 0:11:44.200 --> 0:11:45.520 What have I got multiple devices? 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:48.000 That's what I was thinking. Does your phone have a different. 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:50.000 Ib because you know she got two phones and a 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:51.319 TV Ana Mac. 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:52.800 You might be going Karen on this one. 0:11:53.760 --> 0:11:56.080 It's hitting a spot, it's hitting a spot. I just 0:11:56.120 --> 0:12:00.360 feel like, you know, I how do I say it? 0:12:01.200 --> 0:12:03.440 I just feel like Netflix is forgetting themselves. You're not 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:06.839 the only one anymore. We have options, you know, lucky 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.920 for them. I'm not pirrating. I'm paying my subscriptions. But 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:14.760 if I got to do Netflix, Stan, Binge, Disney plus, 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:19.119 what else we got thrilled? Whatever? That one ism Fox. 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.680 Tell Prime Prime, that's the one. It's too much, too. 0:12:22.600 --> 0:12:27.920 Bread would but realistically one's got to go, and clearly 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.000 it's this one that's acting or Karen on us. I'm 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:32.480 so sorry. I'm so sorry. You need to shed the 0:12:32.520 --> 0:12:35.080 Karen Netflix and remember where you came from. 0:12:35.240 --> 0:12:37.840 I gotta say I love the Pamela doc. But I'm 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:41.800 not a massive Netflix user. I'll watch Sex and the 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:44.280 City every night. That's a little binge moment. 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:46.520 These sentences that don't really start or end. 0:12:49.320 --> 0:12:51.680 Nah, I will say, still love Netflix, definitely. This is 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:52.720 a bump in the road. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:56.160 It's a small bump, but let's acknowledge it now and 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:59.120 let's not get out of hand. And I would prefer 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:00.959 do everything at once, give me, the price hype, with 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:03.680 the prastpert, with the whatever, don't piece milk, don't piece milkau. 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.080 I'm getting comfortable and then I go back onto my 0:13:06.120 --> 0:13:08.520 login and I'm like, why am I logged out? You 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:11.280 know what's not fun to do? Log in on a 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:14.760 Samsung frame. It's not a premium experience. I'm using the 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:17.800 remote click click click. It's not sexy. You need the 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:21.080 voice to text, truly, but I haven't set that up. Damn, 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:23.600 I haven't set it up. It'll change not using any 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:26.439 of the smart functions. Do I use the frame of 0:13:26.480 --> 0:13:29.319 the art? No, I don't want to do that anyway. 0:13:29.320 --> 0:13:30.079 I've had enough. 0:13:29.920 --> 0:13:33.080 Flex And from the other day, Flex, you post a 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:35.640 question on your Instagram. Of course, it was a how 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:43.200 do I say a philosophal philosophic philosophical that sounds like me. 0:13:43.480 --> 0:13:44.080 It was a. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:48.280 Philosophical question mark with multiple layers, quite like an onion. 0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:51.800 You are asking, correct me if I'm wrong, whether or 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.640 not you can still be yourself without your garnishes, without 0:13:54.640 --> 0:13:56.520 your little seasonings, your clothes, your. 0:13:56.480 --> 0:14:01.800 Jewelry maker, your aesthetic, your genre used to subscribed to visually. 0:14:01.880 --> 0:14:04.920 Yes, And it got me thinking. 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:09.239 About this phenomena, phenomenon. 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:10.640 I put it, I put it. 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:12.920 I put a video up the other day about how 0:14:12.920 --> 0:14:15.000 Bunning's always when you go to Bunnings need to pooh, 0:14:15.160 --> 0:14:17.319 and I was saying phenomena throughout the video because I 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:21.040 thought it sounded funnier than phenomenon. Then Instagram decides to 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:23.680 boost the video, so it's going viral and every man 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.080 and his dog saying phenomenon. 0:14:25.160 --> 0:14:25.960 It's phenomenon. 0:14:26.200 --> 0:14:26.800 What's the difference? 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:27.880 Do I look like down? 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:29.280 I don't think it's something we care about it? 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:34.920 Seriously, I got shit love, I'm not thinking about phenomena anyway. 0:14:34.920 --> 0:14:36.800 This is kind of similar to that thing about if 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:37.680 you take everything away. 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.600 It's called white torture. 0:14:39.840 --> 0:14:40.680 Let's talk about it. 0:14:41.480 --> 0:14:45.520 White torture, which is also referred to as white room torture, 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:50.800 is a psychological torture technique aimed at complete sensory deprivation 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:54.680 and isolation. A prisoner is held in a cell that 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.280 deprives them of all their senses and identity. It's particularly 0:14:58.360 --> 0:15:01.280 used in Iran. However, there is also evidence of it 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:05.320 used by the Venezuelan and the United States Intelligence Services. 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.240 Okay, so she's reading from an article. 0:15:10.160 --> 0:15:11.560 And you know, I've never read it before. 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:18.760 It's the first time she'd seen it Livealen Price, Army 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:20.320 Force Corporation. 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:26.080 No, okay. So visually, the prisoner is deprived of all color. 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.640 Their cell is completely white, the walls, floor, ceiling, as 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.000 well as their clothes and their food that would cook me. 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.680 Neon tubes are positioned above the occupant in such a 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:35.960 way that no shadows appear. 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:37.400 Ooh, this is ominous. 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:43.080 Auditorially, the cell is soundproof, avoid of any sound, voices 0:15:43.160 --> 0:15:46.600 or social interaction. Guards stand in silence, wearing padded shoes 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:50.240 to avoid making any noise. Prisoners cannot hear anything but themselves. 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:53.800 In terms of taste and smell, the prisoner is fed 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:59.120 white food, classically unseasoned rice to deprive them of these senses. Further, 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:01.280 all surfaces smooth, rubbing. 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:02.240 Them of the sensation of touch. 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:06.440 Detainees are held for months or even years. The effects 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.680 of white torture are well documented in a number of testimonials. Typically, 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:15.120 prisoners will become depersonalized by losing personal identity for extended 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:20.400 periods of isolation. They also get hallucinations and psychotic breaks. 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:23.520 Would you survive. 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.560 Up until the point where you said only smooth services. 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:29.880 I was like, just get me a doner. I'll go 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.440 light in the corner in a little ball ma douna 0:16:32.480 --> 0:16:33.920 on top of my face. But without that, I don't 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:36.200 know if I could do it. I need the dona. 0:16:36.840 --> 0:16:39.280 When they said no shadows, that's when it started eating 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:42.080 different for me. It would kind of be like living 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.080 in heaven. That's hell, like a heaven affied hell. 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:48.680 I just need a visual. I just think it's like, yeah, 0:16:48.920 --> 0:16:50.800 it's exactly what I was saying before. It's like the 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:54.200 absence of all the stuff leaves you with yourself, and 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:56.760 that's too much. It's too much to see, it's too 0:16:56.840 --> 0:17:00.080 much to acknowledge. You kind of need the flavor of 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:03.160 color and furniture and aesthetic and vibe to fill in 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:05.800 the gap, so you don't have to every day. Shouldn't 0:17:05.800 --> 0:17:08.719 be that referential. I shouldn't only have to hear my 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:13.439 breathing to function. I've had enough. But thank you for 0:17:13.480 --> 0:17:16.240 sharing that my pleasure. Thank you for reading that article 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:21.320 for the first time together on air. It's called white torture. 0:17:21.400 --> 0:17:23.679 You've got a reference survivor Big Brothers. They've done it 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:24.399 plenty of times. 0:17:25.560 --> 0:17:28.080 I've never even heard of it. I just did that 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:29.359 right for you. I thought you'd love it. 0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:31.680 I did that right for you. 0:17:31.680 --> 0:17:34.280 You've been listening to the Flex and Frooms Daily podcast. 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.240 For more, Tune into cater on DAB or stream it 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:38.120 on iHeartRadio.