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Speaker 1: Gardening Australia Junior begins just after seven tonight on ABC

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Speaker 1: Kids and Costa Georgia. Artists with us good Morning, Costa, they.

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Speaker 2: Make welcome, good morning. We have given birth.

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Speaker 3: You've given birth, you had has birthed the child and

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Speaker 3: I am beyond a doting parent, I am pumped Costa.

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Speaker 1: There is a famous saying about never working with kids

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Speaker 1: or animals. What was behind the thinking of let's do

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Speaker 1: a kid's version of Gardening Australia.

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I don't follow that theory because I work

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Speaker 3: with kids and animals all the time. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 3: love them and they make my world. So the theory was,

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Speaker 3: if we want children to connect with nature and fall

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Speaker 3: in love with nature, we really need them to be

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Speaker 3: what they see. And so having young children a show

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Speaker 3: of their own where they're hosting it alongside one of

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Speaker 3: the show those presenters as well, but they're leading it.

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Speaker 3: They're the ones driving the momentum. It's for me, is

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Speaker 3: as good as it gets, because you want them to

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Speaker 3: be that role model to their generation, but particularly to

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Speaker 3: the ones beneath them where they can aspire and go, oh,

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Speaker 3: well that's a kid talking about that. That's a kid

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Speaker 3: getting grubby. That's a kid with their hands in the

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Speaker 3: in the soil, or planting a pizza herb garden, or

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Speaker 3: building a bug hotel, or becoming a soil detective, like

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Speaker 3: none of it is dumb down.

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Speaker 2: Right like you, both of you.

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Speaker 3: As an adult, you could watch it as ga junior

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Speaker 3: and interpret the junior as a gardening in Australia, as

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Speaker 3: a junior gardener, a new partner, or you can look

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Speaker 3: at it as this is for children but nothing sort

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Speaker 3: of made. Oh isn't this oozy? Woozy and happy? Happy

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Speaker 3: clappy clappy. No soil science. We have a soil scientist

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Speaker 3: in the Soil Detective episode. We take them into concepts,

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Speaker 3: but the only difference is the level of enthusiasm and

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Speaker 3: amp out a little bit. But as far as any

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Speaker 3: aspect of any of the stories, it's really.

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Speaker 2: Like those called action.

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Speaker 3: So whether we're saying to the kids, I'll go out

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Speaker 3: and build an insect hotel or build yourself a rainbow

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Speaker 3: veggie patch, well, as an adult it's exactly the same.

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Speaker 3: You can do it and have fun, build a pizza

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Speaker 3: herb garden and plant it out like.

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Speaker 2: The shape of a pizza.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, these are just fun ways of amping

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Speaker 3: the information to make it fun and really excavate deep

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Speaker 3: into that inquiry.

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Speaker 1: The thing about kids is that their brains haven't been

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Speaker 1: jaded yet like some of us and on. So you

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Speaker 1: tell them to go out and build an insect hotel

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Speaker 1: and they think, yeah, I can, rather than thinking oh.

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Speaker 2: That's hard, nothing's impossible.

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Speaker 1: To them, yeah I love that.

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Speaker 3: That's use that in my gains because jadedness, you know,

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Speaker 3: life jades you, whereas this is this is the the antidote,

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Speaker 3: this is the d jading factor, and it's it's exciting

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Speaker 3: because it's also a chance to bring them in, you know,

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Speaker 3: even on the Friday that they can watch their show

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Speaker 3: and then bring them across watch our show after that,

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Speaker 3: and as I've said to kids, look, you know you

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Speaker 3: can then watch Gardening Australia. And then at eight point thirty,

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Speaker 3: you know, when you sort of might be passed, when

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Speaker 3: you're supposed to be in bed, you say, well, okay,

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Speaker 3: now we need to debrief. Yeah, and we've got to say,

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Speaker 3: all right, well what did you know Molly and the

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Speaker 3: team stay, we're going to build this tomorrow, so we've

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Speaker 3: got to work out what we want and you know

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Speaker 3: this way you can say, well, Mum and dad, we

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Speaker 3: don't need to be in bed before nine on a

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Speaker 3: Friday now, so.

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Speaker 4: Cost complaints might I've got to say the show's had

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Speaker 4: a baby, but disappointed because I missed the gender reveal.

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Speaker 4: But when you pop the balloon, it would have been

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Speaker 4: green though, wouldn't it, Because this is next This is

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Speaker 4: next level of what any of these kids will learn school.

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Speaker 3: You know, I learnt from family this week. I didn't

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Speaker 3: realize this whole gender reveal. You can get the info

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Speaker 3: from the doctor and then they put it in an envelope,

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Speaker 3: you give it to the baker and then they bake

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Speaker 3: the cake and then you.

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Speaker 2: Cut the cake.

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Speaker 3: And you know what they did because I've never seen

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Speaker 3: one of these, and I was watching on the phone

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Speaker 3: on a video call. They cut through and they've gone,

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Speaker 3: hang on, it's red, and so the.

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Speaker 2: Baker's a bit it's a bit.

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Speaker 3: Of red on the top and then you put the

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Speaker 3: knife through and it falls apart and there was blue.

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Speaker 1: You know, people go to great lands. Actually, I've got

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Speaker 1: an idea of what for one you could do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's a bit drawn out. Though the baby might

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Speaker 1: be born before the gender reveal. You plant a plant,

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Speaker 1: and the flower if it's pink copp when it comes up.

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Speaker 2: Now that's that's the long game.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, no plan and vegetables are great for kids

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Speaker 1: to start out with in the garden.

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Speaker 2: What are the easy ones?

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Speaker 3: Look, I think herbs. Yeah, when you talk about rosemary, time.

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Speaker 2: Anything I can grow. You see.

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Speaker 1: Some stupid stuff and it smells good and I use

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Speaker 1: it in my cooking.

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Speaker 3: We are going to put an old school ratings box

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Speaker 3: at your house in your after tune in every Friday

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Speaker 3: at seven o five, because I'll be watching and if

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Speaker 3: I don't see the little light coming like, hey, here's

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Speaker 3: your startup kit, you know, and A're going to get

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Speaker 3: you beyond rosemary. Oh, it would be goodtle fate, I

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Speaker 3: got full faith in you.

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Speaker 4: Lisa's place would be the worm hotel mate. Yeah, dain

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Speaker 4: in the world obsessed with germs in the last three

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Speaker 4: or four years. How do you convince parents to let

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Speaker 4: the kids get dirty hands, because it's what it's all about.

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Speaker 2: Is it hard?

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Speaker 3: Yes, Look, that's a great question, and we even had

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Speaker 3: a segment about this on the show, and just how

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Speaker 3: the research at the moment is showing that children, particularly

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Speaker 3: where they have nature play and schools where there's nature play.

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Speaker 3: It's not only about the immunity, it's about the mental

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Speaker 3: well being, but also the mental development is being proven

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Speaker 3: in reports now that it's much better, much more advanced

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Speaker 3: when children have access to nature every day. So I

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Speaker 3: think the good thing about a show like this is

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Speaker 3: that it kind of will bring them momentum in because

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Speaker 3: the kids are going to drive it. They say, I

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Speaker 3: want to do this, let's build this, let's get outside.

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Speaker 3: I want to investigate. And as someone was saying to

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Speaker 3: me the other day, I mean that the old world

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Speaker 3: bug Catcher was something that you know, as a generation

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Speaker 3: that got people outside to you know, got kids of

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Speaker 3: a generation out there to inquire and put their nature

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Speaker 3: goggles on. I think, you know, a show like this,

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Speaker 3: because it's going to be weak after week after week,

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Speaker 3: we can just amp that shift in thinking and the

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Speaker 3: breakaway from this this angst and concern and this this

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Speaker 3: helicoptering that you know people are going to get sick,

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Speaker 3: Like you know, you're going to build a community by

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Speaker 3: being out in nature and breeding in different bacteria and

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Speaker 3: like you know, forest bathing. I've got a story coming

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Speaker 3: up on that. That whole idea of when you walk

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Speaker 3: through different parks, you pick up different microbes. It pushes

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Speaker 3: your immunity to build and resist and to fight and

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Speaker 3: get mongrel. So we want our kids to build that

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Speaker 3: mongrel and they'll get it by gardening and being outside.

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Speaker 1: I've always believed that you need to get a bit dirty.

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Speaker 1: We still eat a month pie back in my day.

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Speaker 2: Now you're the resilience. It's not a whole one costa.

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Speaker 1: I think extra small gardening gloves will fly off the

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Speaker 1: shelves at the garden centers this weekend. It all kicks

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Speaker 1: off tonight at seven o five on ABC Kids. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for joining us this morning.

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Speaker 3: Oh what a treat, so nice, and it's always good

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Speaker 3: at Tokyo until next time, So yeah, thanks Cas