1 00:00:04,360 --> 00:00:09,039 Speaker 1: Mason Cox knows he's a little unusual. At a dizzying 2 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: height of six foot eleven and now sporting prescription sunglasses. 3 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: On field, he's pretty hard to miss when he's playing 4 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: for the Collingwood Magpies in the AFL. 5 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: But Mason does things his own way off the field too. 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: In this interview, Mason explains how as an AFL football 7 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: app he is getting the most out of artificial intelligence 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 1: productivity tools. He shares his most favorite possession, and he 9 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: breaks down his long term approach to making decisions. I'm 10 00:00:46,479 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: doctor Amantha Imbach, an organizational psychologist and the host of 11 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: How I Work, and I'm trying something a little different 12 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: for the next few weeks. This is How I Live, 13 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: a series that gives you an inside look with some 14 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: super accomplished people's top strategies for living a happy, productive 15 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: and impactful life. 16 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,720 Speaker 2: So, Mason, what physical. 17 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: Possession has improved your life the most over the last 18 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: couple of years. 19 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 3: The biggest thing is a good mattress and a good pillow. 20 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 3: I think people don't realize it, and then maybe it's 21 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 3: just subconscious thoughts of it, of like how much time 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: you spend using those materials You sleep every single night. 23 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 3: It's one of the most valued things in life is 24 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,760 Speaker 3: recovery from sleep. And if you don't have a good pillow, 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 3: and you don't have a good mattress and you don't 26 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 3: get a good sleep, you wake up really cranky in 27 00:01:35,720 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 3: the morning, you don't have a great day. So I 28 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: think for myself, like little things like that that you 29 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: know probably don't cost a lot, like a new pillow 30 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: doesn't cost a ton of money, but can make a 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: massive difference in your like sleep and ability to recover 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 3: and just feeling good the next day. I think those 33 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: little changes in life. It's like I'd love to give 34 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 3: that advice to people because it's something small everyone can 35 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: do that can have a massive impact. I think for 36 00:01:57,760 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: a full day or month, or year, whatever it may be. 37 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: Do you happen to know what brand of mattress and 38 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: pillow you currently use? 39 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 3: I've got temper, so I'm a bit bougie. It's one 40 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 3: of those ones that you know, you put your face on, 41 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: just kind of molds around your head somehow, very very nice, 42 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,799 Speaker 3: so you don't have to go to that boogie. There's 43 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 3: other ones that are a bit more cost effective. Don't 44 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 3: get me wrong, but I think that's just such a 45 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 3: such an important thing to get a good night's rest 46 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 3: and to put your head on it. For Yeah, I 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: think you probably spend eight hours a day with your 48 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: head on a pillow. It's like you should invest in 49 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 3: those kind of things, you know, I mean, you invest 50 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: in a phone and a computer and all these other 51 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 3: things to keep you, you know, mentally stimulated throughout the 52 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 3: throughout the day. You should invest in the things that 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 3: help you recover from that. 54 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: What's your favorite time saving. 55 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: Hack, favorite time saving hack? I know this is this 56 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 3: is a bit nerdy, so I'm a mechanical engineer at heart, 57 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 3: so I love just kind of cutting corners and getting 58 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 3: to the answer quicker than others. I've been using chat 59 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 3: GPT a lot, which is kind of weird. I know, 60 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 3: it's kind of like this whole new AI, you know, 61 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: like part of the world that everyone's kind of freaking 62 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 3: add up at the moment of. But for me, it's 63 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: actually been really good for those emails that I just, 64 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: you know, you have to send. You want to make 65 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 3: it somewhat personal and attach all the kind of different 66 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 3: things in it, but you just don't have the time 67 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: to write them like it actually works really well, and 68 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: like those longer emails that you know might take ten 69 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: to fifteen minutes to write, it actually will do it 70 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 3: in two to three and then you can just change 71 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 3: a few sentences here and there. So it's kind of 72 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 3: weird to say that an athlete you just chat GPT probably, 73 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 3: but for me, whenever it comes to a lot of 74 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 3: stuff that I do away from football, I think it 75 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 3: just kind of simplifies my life and as one of 76 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 3: those tools I can use that actually is time saving 77 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 3: and allows me to spend more time on things I enjoy. 78 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: That is very interesting. 79 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: What is an example of, say an email and the 80 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: prompts that you've given chat GPT, Because I feel like 81 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 1: so much of the skill in getting the most out 82 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: of CHATJPT is the prompts that you give it. 83 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: So can you think of an example or two. 84 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: All of my social media right now is just like 85 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: how to make a prompt on gas. It is absurd, 86 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: very very weird, But no, I think, like myself, some 87 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 3: different things I've used it for and prompts and stuff 88 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: like I've been able to like, well, I get invited 89 00:04:11,760 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: to this charity function recently, you know, and they were 90 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: for cancer research and all that, and I was like, 91 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, this is an amazing thing. And it's 92 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: like I wonder if I can do this and write 93 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: like a really eloquent email saying things back, you know, 94 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 3: and I love proving people like to go like, oh 95 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 3: my gosh, this athlete can speak like this is weird, Like, oh, well, 96 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: you don't expect this, you know. So I recently put 97 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 3: something in there. I said, like, you know, write a 98 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 3: very eloquent, beautiful email, like very highbrow around I guess 99 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 3: the you know, the charity, and say thank you and 100 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 3: appreciate the support and everything else, and what you're doing 101 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 3: is amazing. And then it kind of spat out this 102 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 3: like paragraphs on paragraphs of like five or six paragraphs, 103 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:50,599 Speaker 3: and it was so eloquently written, and I was like, okay, awesome, 104 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 3: And I just changed a few things in it, and 105 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,919 Speaker 3: the person sent me an email back and just that 106 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 3: was so kind. Your words were so great. I couldn't 107 00:04:57,760 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 3: believe you took the time out of your day to 108 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 3: do it. I just sit there. My friend works for him. 109 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 3: She's like c seed on the email. She was like, 110 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: that is not you. I was like, well, they don't 111 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 3: know that that's okay, don't they have a very good 112 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 3: impression of myself? And I think that to chat GPT, 113 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: I love that. 114 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: What is a daily or weekly ritual that has made 115 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: the biggest positive improvement to your life over the last 116 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: few years. 117 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 3: One big thing, I've got a bit of a hectic 118 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 3: life kind of away from football and in football, and 119 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: it's a twenty four to seven job, really is three 120 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 3: sixty five. And one thing I've kind of learned is 121 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: to block out time for myself and I love to 122 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: like cook. A big fan of cooking, and that's kind 123 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: of like my meditation. It's where I'd sit there on 124 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 3: my own. I get to kind of put the different 125 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 3: ingredients in that I like and make it specificate for 126 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 3: specific for me. And that's kind of like the way 127 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 3: I kind of just block everything out and just kind 128 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 3: of reset. So, like cooking something I always love doing, 129 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 3: but I also do the podcasting, which is a massive 130 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: kind of something I'm very passionate about, and that kind 131 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: of is something totally away from football. Does cover football, 132 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but like that's totally away from 133 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: running around and being physically exhausted, and it's another outlet. 134 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 3: So I think it's it's so important for you to have, 135 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 3: you know, something you do, like on a weekly basis 136 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: that you block out of your schedule that you know 137 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 3: brings you joy, brings you happiness, and you know, fills 138 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 3: your cop And for me, that's probably the two things 139 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 3: I do the most, is like I like to go 140 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 3: and cook and like that's you know, something I just myself. 141 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 3: I spend money on all kinds of gadgets in the 142 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 3: kitchen that I don't need, but I always love using. 143 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 3: So I just love that And that's my way of 144 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 3: just kind of resetting like all the stress of the 145 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: week and whatever may have happened, like that just kind 146 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: of you know, it is block out of my mind 147 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: and I can just and structurally follow you know, a 148 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: recipe and I can't really mess it up. It's like, 149 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: you know, do this than this. And it's just to me, 150 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 3: it's kind of that resetting of okay, like you know, 151 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 3: if you just do the right things and put the 152 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 3: right steps in place, you'll have a great outcome of 153 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,160 Speaker 3: a great meal. And it's just the simplicity of that 154 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 3: just makes me feel so it easy. 155 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: I can definitely relate to that. 156 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: I've never been much of a recipe person, but I 157 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: think during lockdowns it's like, like, you can't stuff up 158 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: a recipe. I mean famous last words. Yeah, I did 159 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: do quite a lot of baking, and having said you 160 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: can't stuff up a recipe, I'm now just remembering all 161 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: the recipes that I did stuff up. 162 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 2: Do you have any kind of favorite go. 163 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: To chefs or cookbooks that you find yourself returning to 164 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: again and again when you're trying out new things in 165 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: the kitchen. 166 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 3: I've got a few. So Victor Churchill's is a very 167 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: famous butcher in Melbourne and they have a place in 168 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: Sydney also, and they've got a book that describes me 169 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 3: and like you know how to cook it in the 170 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: different you know different recipes for different things, and it 171 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 3: gives a lot of history on the background of the 172 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 3: different parts of whatever it animal you might be cooking, right, 173 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: and this might not be for a begans out there 174 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: and stuff like that, But I think just from the 175 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 3: idea of it, behind the scenes of learning more about 176 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 3: the items that you're making, I just think kind of fascinating, 177 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:02,679 Speaker 3: Like I love the history of things. I love whenever 178 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 3: you can dive deeper into things to understand them attle 179 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: bit more and that's what this book kind of does. 180 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 3: So I've opened it up and just read random chapters 181 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 3: about different farmers and different ways they've done it, and 182 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: you know how you know, certain steaks are better at 183 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 3: another steak and marbling and all these other things that 184 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: are just is very much different from my ordinary everyday life, 185 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 3: which has been really cool. But I think my favorite recipe, 186 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: I do a mean carrot cake, a very good carrot cake. 187 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 3: And I've got to shout out Anglesey, Poppies Cafe and 188 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 3: Anglesy because they're kind of the ones that taught me 189 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 3: and it's amazing. It's like so good, and I just 190 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: go around, I give to the neighbors and give to 191 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 3: friends that live around the corner and all that kind 192 00:08:38,080 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 3: of stuff, and it's a bit of a crowd favorite. 193 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 3: So that's probably. Yeah, I think just having that book, 194 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 3: you know, doing something totally away from it, and just yeah, 195 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 3: there's just something that you've got to have something outside 196 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 3: of your normal everyday life that you have passions for 197 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: that's you know, your hobby and things like that, and 198 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 3: doing that's kind of been what I've gotten into over 199 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 3: the years. 200 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: What's the secret to a good carrot cake lots. 201 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 3: Of sugar, though I'd love to say it's lots of love. 202 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, but I think that. I mean, 203 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 3: like any carrot cake, right, you could stuff up the 204 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,480 Speaker 3: carrot cake right, as long as you got the icing good, 205 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:16,719 Speaker 3: that's all that matters. That's what people remember. If you 206 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,880 Speaker 3: can get a good icing. The rest of it can 207 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: be a little bit off here there, But if you 208 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 3: get a good icing, that's the taste that everyone remembers. 209 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: I feel like, so you can't. You got to focus 210 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 3: on that, focus on the icing. 211 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 1: We will be back soon with Mason talking about something 212 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: he believes everyone should do at least once, but most 213 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 1: people never. 214 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: Would have tried. 215 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: If you're looking for more tips to improve the way 216 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: you live, I write a short fortnightly newsletter that contains 217 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: three cool things that I've discovered that help make my 218 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: life better in some way. You can sign up for. 219 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 2: That at how I Work dot co. That's how I 220 00:09:58,440 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: work dot co. 221 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: Now, what is something that everyone should do at least 222 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: once that most people never would have tried? 223 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: Well from I think like I'm from America and I've 224 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 3: come to Australia on my own. I didn't know anyone here. 225 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 3: I just kind of had to make a life totally 226 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 3: away from what my considered home was. And I think 227 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: before I came here, I did something I never really 228 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 3: had the confidence to do for a long time, and 229 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 3: that was to I went and traveled to Europe for 230 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 3: two months on my own. So I just did like 231 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 3: a backpacking trip. I was on my own traveling. I 232 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: just had to make new friends and be like, you know, 233 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 3: just comfortable in my own self. And I thought that 234 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:41,120 Speaker 3: was something that really made me grow up as a 235 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 3: person and just like realized that I don't need the 236 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 3: attention of others and stuff to be happy and putting 237 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 3: myself in that uncomfortable situation, because there was definitely time 238 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: to where like I would have loved to have people 239 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 3: around stuff like that, but the uncomfortable situation of having 240 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 3: to go up and just chat to a random person 241 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 3: and just be like, hey, how's your day. You know, 242 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 3: we all get in the elevator every day and we 243 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 3: all stare at her phone that we look up the ceiling. 244 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 3: We don't want to have a conversation, you know. I 245 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 3: think it's just one of those things. Once you are 246 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: able to pull yourself away from the ego of things 247 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 3: and everything else. You just kind of get that feeling 248 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 3: of like, no matter what happens, like I know I'm 249 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 3: gonna be comfortable. I know I can be happy by 250 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: being on my own. And yes, it might be better 251 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 3: with other people, but at the very base, I'm at 252 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 3: least happy on my own. And I think whenever you 253 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 3: travel and you're in uncomfortable circumstances and you got to 254 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 3: just make decisions on the flyne I think I did 255 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: like thirteen countries in two months or something and just 256 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 3: go on trains and just met random people and create 257 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:33,440 Speaker 3: It's just like so many stories and so many stories, 258 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:34,839 Speaker 3: and I came out of it and I was like, 259 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, like I would have never I'm so 260 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 3: glad I pushed myself to do that. I would have 261 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 3: never thought I'd be able to get through two months 262 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 3: and then coming here, I think it helped me so much. 263 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 3: Being in a city I've never been in a place 264 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 3: I've never been with no friends or any idea of 265 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 3: anyone that was in that city or that country really, 266 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 3: and it just made me realize that no matter where 267 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,040 Speaker 3: you are, what you're doing, you can always be comfortable 268 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 3: on your own skin, and it just helped me so 269 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 3: much in the transition to coming to a different country 270 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: and having to start from scratch and make a new 271 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: friendship group and reach out and go to events that 272 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 3: you probably wouldn't go to because you know, you want 273 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: to meet people and it's a social environment and you 274 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 3: just never know what connection might come from it. And yeah, 275 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 3: I've made an amazing friendship group from I think taking 276 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 3: myself out of the comfortable circumstances and putting myself out 277 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: there and meeting There's so many random friends I have 278 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,080 Speaker 3: and people go, how do you know that person? You're like, actually, geez, 279 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: I can't even remember, Like I don't remember the first time. 280 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 3: There's so many things we did over the years and 281 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 3: stuff and random connections through other people, and you just 282 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 3: once you kind of open yourself up to being yeah, 283 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 3: like that ego and taking it away and just being 284 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,959 Speaker 3: able to talk to anyone about anything and having experiences 285 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 3: in life that you can share with people. Then you realize, like, 286 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:49,480 Speaker 3: you know, how similar everyone is and how much we 287 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 3: all connect, and how it's such a small world, and 288 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 3: you just start to make friends and you start to 289 00:12:54,640 --> 00:12:56,719 Speaker 3: find out who your people are and your tribe are, 290 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: And yeah, I think that's something. Traveling on your own, 291 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 3: you just force yourself to be put in that situation 292 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 3: and you learn a lot about yourself in life. 293 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: Can you think of an example, you know, maybe from 294 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: the last few years where you have pushed yourself out 295 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: of your comfort zone and it has resulted in a 296 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: new friend. 297 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of new friends up. Then I 298 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 3: went to one of my best friends. He's I'm six 299 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: foot eleven, so I'm about two hundred twelve center, it's 300 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 3: very tall. And one of my best friends he's a 301 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 3: Vietnamese fella who's like five foot four, Like totally opposite 302 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:30,840 Speaker 3: end of the spectrum. People like, how the heck do 303 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 3: you know each other? And I remember I went to 304 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 3: a friend's brother's engagement party, Like don't have any real 305 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 3: I mean, like I didn't even know his name at 306 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:42,320 Speaker 3: that point, you know. And I went to this engagement 307 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 3: party and I met him. He was passionate about fishing. 308 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 3: Love fishing, love fishing, you know, and that's something my 309 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 3: family has always been passionate about. And we connected over that, 310 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 3: and then I think it was like a week later 311 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 3: we had gone fishing down the coast and we ended 312 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 3: up becoming best friends and then from that, you know, 313 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 3: where you hung out like every single a couple of 314 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 3: weeks where it was and then now his kid is 315 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: so I'm the godfather to his kid, which is kind 316 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 3: of like ridiculous on so many levels. But like someone 317 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: I never would have thought moving to this country, I'd 318 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 3: be the godfather of another child that actually is in Australia, 319 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 3: Like that makes no sense. But because I took myself 320 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 3: out of that comfortable circumstance and I was like, you 321 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: know what, like I'm going to go to this random 322 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 3: engagement party. Sounds fine, They're all really nice people, whatever, 323 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 3: and I ended up meeting him and then you know, 324 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: he drove me home that night and we just became 325 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: really good friends. And now I'm godfather of his kids. 326 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 3: So it's like the little things like that. You know, 327 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 3: you're just kind of look back and you're like, how 328 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 3: did this happen? And you're like, oh, well, that happened. 329 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: Then that happened, and you know, I agreed to do 330 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 3: something else that was a little bit out of my 331 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 3: comfort zone to go hang out for a night with 332 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 3: some random person I just met last week, and then 333 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:38,880 Speaker 3: you know, things just kind of I guess go from there. 334 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 3: And if you really really enjoy people and you get that, 335 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: you know, that real connection with them, then you just 336 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 3: never know where things will go. 337 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: Do you feel like nervous in those first few interactions 338 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: where you are reaching out to you know, a new 339 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: friend and making that connection, Because I mean I could 340 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: imagine like you know, like particularly for football fans, like 341 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 1: you're but you know this completely aspirational, probably really confident, 342 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: successful sports person, Like it's hard to imagine that person 343 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: that I imagine a lot of football fans see you as 344 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:16,640 Speaker 1: kind of feeling a little bit prepidacious in terms of 345 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: like sending those initial messages and doing that reach out. 346 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think over the years, I've got a bit 347 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 3: more cautious on why people want to be friends of men, 348 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: probably more than anything which has been good. But like 349 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 3: I said, the early days, like it was very hard 350 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: finding friends and that was like my way has had 351 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 3: to put myself out of my comfort zone. But yeah, 352 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 3: I think, like anything, I'm not saying go and meet 353 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: some random person and go down fishing with them on overnight. 354 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 3: Thing like make sure you do your due diligence here, 355 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 3: Like don't just randomly rock out to people and trust 356 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 3: them one hundred percent. So yeah, I just I don't know, 357 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: like I think for myself, like now being a bit 358 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 3: of a person in the public eye, you get a 359 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: bit more cautious around it. But I've been fortunate enough 360 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 3: to have a really close friendship group that does not 361 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 3: care about football. Just it's so refreshing because I go 362 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 3: over to their place and he's like, hey, you want 363 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: to go a bike ride, and like, I work out 364 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: for a living, this last thing I want to do. 365 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 3: But no, it's just it's great to have different aspects 366 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 3: of life and very I guess, like kind of a 367 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 3: chameleon in different ways. You can kind of jump from 368 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: one thing to another. And yeah, I always it might 369 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 3: be awkward. But the way I've always pictured life and 370 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: the way I've always kind of put the mentality around 371 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 3: it is I always think about ten years in the future. 372 00:16:27,760 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 3: Right in ten years in the future, that one awkward 373 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 3: conversation with you, to have them, I guarantee you you 374 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 3: won't even remember, like it won't even like that, that 375 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 3: memory will just be totally out of your mind. So 376 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 3: to me, I'm always like, ten years in the future, 377 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 3: this could either be a great relationship that I have 378 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 3: with this person, or it could be nothing and I 379 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,760 Speaker 3: don't even remember having it. Like so it's like, I mean, 380 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 3: what does really the downside there isn't so to me. 381 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 3: I like, I think seeing things from a futuristic standpoint 382 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: of looking back on the moment, you don't take it 383 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 3: as serious and it's kind of like, oh, yeah, it 384 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 3: might feel like a big deal in the moment in 385 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 3: the time, but after you're kind of like, oh, that 386 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 3: wasn't that bad. I like, that's not too terrible. Ten 387 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 3: years down the road, you know are a gods son 388 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 3: of random person's kid, or you just don't remember you 389 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 3: ever even had a conversation. So I think that's a 390 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 3: good way to look at it as to find out 391 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 3: what's valuable and what's important in life and what you 392 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 3: should stress about and everything else. Is like looking at 393 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 3: a ten year, twenty year down the road of whether 394 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: or not this is something that's going to really be 395 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 3: a monumental part in life. Now. 396 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: Something that you have to do very often as a 397 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: professional footballer is get yourself in the zone. And I 398 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: imagine that there must be many times where you just 399 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: haven't been feeling it so I'm wondering for you, what 400 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: is a fail safe way to get in that zone 401 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 1: when you need to perform. 402 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 3: I love to say that every game and every moment 403 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: of my career, I've been totally in the zone and 404 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,119 Speaker 3: I haven't had anything else going on in my life. 405 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 3: And that's what I think fans expect. But that is 406 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 3: not real now. Whenever it comes to I think, like 407 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 3: you think of like the situations and games, and you know, 408 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 3: whenever you have to get yourself amped up, and you know, 409 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 3: forget about all the outside noise and everything else going on, 410 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: just be able to focus on yourself and the task 411 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 3: at hand. For me, and I feel like really good. 412 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 3: I guess maybe thing to tell other people is like 413 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 3: just focusing on the things you can control. And one 414 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 3: thing I know that every person in this world can 415 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 3: control is their breath. And it might be something as 416 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,199 Speaker 3: simplistic as bring it back to just focusing on your 417 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 3: breath and counting, you know, four seconds in eight seconds, 418 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 3: hold four seconds out like something along those lines where 419 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 3: that is your focus. Nothing else is going on. If 420 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 3: you stop focusing about that, you're going to realize pretty 421 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 3: quickly that you're not focusing on breathing. You're not breathing, 422 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 3: and you're going to be in trouble here am So 423 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 3: I think for me, whenever I need to get in 424 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 3: the moment and whenever I need to understand and forget 425 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: kind of all the craziness that's happening, it's like, just 426 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 3: take a breath, focus on what you're doing in the moment, 427 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: and then you can kind of look back. You feel 428 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: more relaxed, your shoulders go back and you go, okay, cool, 429 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: Let's dissect the information coming in one thing at a 430 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 3: time and be able to make decisions on that. And 431 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 3: I think being able to control the controllaballs is such 432 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 3: an important part whenever you get into the high stress, 433 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: you know, pressure situations that come with you know anyone 434 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: has these in life, but it comes with AFL And 435 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,119 Speaker 3: I think maybe using the breath and focusing on that 436 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 3: just is able to wipe away all the things that 437 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 3: maybe are distracting you from the tasks that you need 438 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 3: to do in front of you. 439 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: What else are you doing, like in you know, the 440 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: half hour before a super important match. 441 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:38,240 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess they're all important. 442 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: What are you doing, particularly on those days where you 443 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: are just not feeling it. 444 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:52,840 Speaker 3: The beauty of the AFL and sport in general is 445 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 3: the community aspect of it. Right, So you're not it's 446 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 3: not like tennis or it's not like golf where it's 447 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: a singularity sport, like you're there with other people that 448 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 3: are experiencing the same life experience as you. So for me, 449 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 3: whenever I'm not feeling it, or I might be, you know, 450 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 3: mentally dragged away from whatever it may be, I'll just 451 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 3: go chat to the guys at the club and just 452 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,959 Speaker 3: you know, some of the players or some of the staff, 453 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 3: and you just kind of whenever you have a really 454 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 3: good culture, you kind of feel at home around these 455 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 3: people and you don't stress as much, you don't worry 456 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 3: as much about judgment and everything else that goes with it, 457 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 3: and you just are enjoying the time with those people. 458 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 3: Because nothing lasts forever, like nothing in this world lasts forever, 459 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 3: and we only have so much time, So why would 460 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 3: you want to spend it with people that don't prop 461 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 3: you up and don't want to see the best of you. 462 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:43,160 Speaker 3: And that's that's to me. It's one of those things. 463 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 3: I'll come in there and whether it be me giving 464 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 3: advice or me pumping someone else up, whoever it may be. 465 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 3: I think just like everyone is understanding and not going 466 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 3: to be one hundred percent every single game, and it 467 00:20:53,720 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 3: might be injury or whatever it may be, that's, you know, 468 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,160 Speaker 3: distracting you or pulling you away from the important, from 469 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 3: what you need to do. But the other people around 470 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 3: you are all experiencing the same thing. Whenever you have 471 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 3: a shared experience, I feel like you just enjoy it 472 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: one hundred times more. And it's we're social, you know, 473 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:15,879 Speaker 3: inentative as human beings. And I just think that whenever 474 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: we share experiences and everything else, we just kind of 475 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 3: have that real feeling of comfort and enjoyment and everything else. 476 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 3: And I don't know, I would love to say I 477 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 3: would have the same exact experience on my own. But 478 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 3: I love the fact that team building, you know, towards 479 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 3: a certain goal, makes everyone feel a better person, makes 480 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 3: everyone feel happier. And that's something that I hope everyone 481 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 3: experiences in this lot. 482 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: What piece of advice do you find yourself giving to 483 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 2: people most often? 484 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 3: Is a great quote of been saying for some reason 485 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 3: over the last few weeks. And a lion isn't worried 486 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,880 Speaker 3: about the opinion of sheep. And that's a really that's 487 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 3: really brutal quote. I feel like, but as you can 488 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 3: imagine the industry, there's a lot of people that have 489 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,760 Speaker 3: a lot of comments on whatever it is you might 490 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: be doing. But I think if you have, you know, 491 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 3: if you have a positive outlook on life and you're 492 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 3: doing things to better other people in society and and 493 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 3: try to leave a legacy that's going to be a 494 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 3: positive impact for others. You're always gonna have haters. You're 495 00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:24,240 Speaker 3: always gonna have people that are not so happy with 496 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: the way you do things. And like I said, no 497 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 3: one can do everything perfectly, you know, like that's just 498 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 3: not realistic. You're gonna have mishaps here and there. And 499 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 3: I think if you come to the realization, if you 500 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 3: know you have good character and you you do things 501 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 3: for the right reasons, people are always going to be 502 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 3: upset with maybe not handling it perfectly, or this or 503 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: that are saying not the perfect words, And you just 504 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: can't you can't get caught up in that because that 505 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 3: will that will eat you alive. It will absolutely eat 506 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: you alive. And you just got to really back in 507 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,760 Speaker 3: the people you surround yourself with you, you know, your 508 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 3: your tribe, as I like to say, of people that 509 00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 3: you know, want to see you be successful and do 510 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 3: amazing things. And if you can and have those kind 511 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 3: of people that pump you up whenever you're down or 512 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 3: you question yourself and things like that, and it goes 513 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 3: such a long way. And yeah, it's just one of 514 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 3: those things where you know, if you do anything different 515 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 3: in life, you start your own business, start your own podcast, 516 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 3: if you do anything like you know, there's always going 517 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 3: to people say, oh, yeah, well someone else will be 518 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: better at that, or someone else can speak better this 519 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 3: or that, you know, and you kind of go to 520 00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 3: the point and go, okay, well I don't see them 521 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: doing it, so tough. I'm the only one out here 522 00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 3: doing it and I'm passionate and I want to so 523 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to do it and I'm going to be 524 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: as successful as I can through perseverance and everything else. 525 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 3: And if you don't like that, then don't tune in. 526 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 3: It's very simple. So I think there's just that part 527 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 3: of it where if you're super passionate about something, you're 528 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 3: doing it in the right way for the right reasons, 529 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 3: and no matter what people say. I think you'll be successful. 530 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: Now, on the topic of quotes and words that are important, 531 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 1: if I gifted you a plaque to put on your wall, 532 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: what would you want it to say. 533 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 3: Take the road less traveled. I kind of mentioned it 534 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 3: before about thinking twenty years ahead or ten years ahead, 535 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 3: you know, And I always think about like when I'm 536 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 3: this is very like it's super positive or exciting thing 537 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 3: to say, but like when I'm on my deathbed, right, so, like, 538 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 3: let's say I've done what I've done in this lifetime, 539 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 3: I'm looking back on everything I've accomplished, everything I've done, everything, 540 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 3: I'm proud of. Everything I'm not proud of. I hope 541 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: to think that, you know, like I've made some pretty 542 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 3: amazing decisions that have affected people in a positive way 543 00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 3: and have changed people for the right reasons and not 544 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 3: ucessarly change, but like influenced them and the right reasons. 545 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 3: And I always make my decisions. Yet I kind of 546 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 3: think on my deathbed, like is this going to be 547 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: something I look back and I'm proud of? Is this 548 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 3: something I'm going to look back and be embarrassed of, 549 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 3: or like things like that, And most of it, to 550 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: be honest, most of it will never make that thought 551 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 3: like most of it I'll be I'll be looking at 552 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 3: the big things of hopefully having the kids in a family, 553 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,680 Speaker 3: and you know, finally, this is getting a wedding and 554 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 3: all that kind of stuff that are going to be 555 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 3: the big things. I look back and I think, oh, 556 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 3: my gosh, how amazing was that? And those are the 557 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,400 Speaker 3: highlights of my life. And there's so many little things 558 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 3: that happen that I don't think would make that highlight 559 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: tape of my life that I worry about. And I 560 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 3: think that's that kind of like idea and that mentality, 561 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 3: and that maybe that quote of like you know, what 562 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 3: is this going to matter? On your deathbed kind of 563 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 3: thing puts you in the realization that all the stress 564 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 3: that we kind of have and a lot of things 565 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: that we worry about are really just minuscule in the 566 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 3: grand scheme of the amazing things you might do in 567 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 3: this life. And it takes you to look at the 568 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 3: end to understand the present. Then maybe that can help you, 569 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: I guess, going forward and understanding what's what you should 570 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 3: value and what's important to you and in the present day. 571 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: Mason, Finally, for people that want to connect with you, 572 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: what is the best way to do that and also 573 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: to listen to your podcast. 574 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, so the podcast is The Mason Cock Show, really original, 575 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:52,040 Speaker 3: very easy to find. It's about sport entertainment. We've got 576 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 3: amazing people on from like Matt Preston to hockey players 577 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:57,919 Speaker 3: to football players to it's not just sport like we 578 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 3: do entertainment also and it's it's amazing. It's something I'm 579 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,880 Speaker 3: super passionate about to get into that kind of industry 580 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,520 Speaker 3: as along with yourself and congratulations on success that you've had. 581 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 3: It's pretty amazing. And yet for myself, You've got the 582 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 3: socials is at Mason sixty ten Cock, so it kind 583 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 3: of helps out with my height six ten, six foot ten, 584 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 3: how to explain that to people this week? Through Socials 585 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 3: and then the Yeah, the podcast at disc sorry, the 586 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 3: Mason Cox Show on Instagram, Twitter, all that kind of 587 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 3: stuff and Spotify, aarn or sorry, iHeartRadio and Apple Music. 588 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 3: So it's it's all out there. I'm accessible for anyone. 589 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, it's I'm excited and hopefully you know this 590 00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 3: this little interview we did, it's given some thought for 591 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,120 Speaker 3: some people and hopefully benefits them for the better. 592 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: Amazing Mason, it has been fascinating getting an insight into 593 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: your life. Thank you so much for sharing some time 594 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: with me. 595 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 3: No worries. Thanks for having me Amantha. 596 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening to my chat with 597 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: Mason Alis. 598 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: Has been the last episode in the first series of 599 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: How I Live. Thank you to everyone that has sent 600 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: through their feedback. 601 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 2: Because of all the wonderful things that I've heard. 602 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: From all you listeners, I am going to be going 603 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: into recording a second season of How I Live, which 604 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: I'll be releasing in a couple of months time. 605 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: But in the meantime, look out for some. 606 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: Bonus episodes of How I Work, along with my favorite 607 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: tip episodes, which will now be coming out every Thursday. 608 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for sharing part of your day 609 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 1: with me by listening to How I Live. 610 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: If you're keen for more tips on how to. 611 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 1: Work better and live better, connect with me on LinkedIn 612 00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: or Instagram to search for Amantha Imba. How I Live 613 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: was recorded on the traditional land of the Orangery people, 614 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: part of the Cool and Nation. I'm so grateful for 615 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: being able to work and live on this beautiful land 616 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: and I want to pay my respects to elder's past, 617 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 1: present and emerging. What I Live is produced by Inventium 618 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: with production support from Dead Set Studios. 619 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: The producer for this episode was Liam Reardon and sound 620 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 2: engineering was done by Martin Imba.