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Speaker 1: Put on your dance and ship give me your best

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Speaker 1: shot from Mommy Me is canceled podcast. You'll hear Claire

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Speaker 1: with her sister Jesse, and she joins us right now.

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Speaker 2: I love seeing you guys to get a little identical twins.

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Speaker 3: I just look it, you say patronized.

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Speaker 2: I want to put your little show or something like that.

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Speaker 4: Jess and I say that twins always seem immature. It

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Speaker 4: always seems like you haven't really grown up if you're twins,

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Speaker 4: because why you're still twins. I get the kids are twins,

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Speaker 4: adult twins a bit weird, so it's interesting a bit.

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Speaker 1: I want to dress you guys up in a little

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Speaker 1: little matching out you're.

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Speaker 3: Still going to then it gets cute again, exactly you're

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Speaker 3: in the middle non.

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Speaker 2: Cue yes, and then this is your life. Show up

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Speaker 2: and I'll say you remember the Stevens twins.

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Speaker 4: We'll be matching Jones. You'll like it. Guys, I need

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Speaker 4: to talk about Prince Harry please.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about the title of his books for Starters Obsessed.

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Speaker 2: And the idea of spare. This came from Prince.

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Speaker 1: Charles Well and a spare has always been just in

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Speaker 1: case people don't know that yes.

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Speaker 3: And Princess Margaret had the same thing. You get all

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Speaker 3: the accolade or you get the privilege without the purpose.

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Speaker 3: But for Princess Margaret, purpose maybe didn't matter as much.

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Speaker 3: But Harry really wanted to find a purpose I think.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, which is such a kind of millennial thing. I

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Speaker 4: think that that Princess Anne could just have a sense

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Speaker 4: of responsibility outside of being the person who's going to

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Speaker 4: inherit the throne. But I think this is so fascinating

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Speaker 4: because I feel like for a lot of people, we

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Speaker 4: had started to lose a bit of interest around Meghan

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Speaker 4: and Harry, thinking, oh, We've had the Oprah interview, Prince

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Speaker 4: Harry's talked about his mental health a lot, Megan's doing

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Speaker 4: interviews all over the place. I'm kind of over it.

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Speaker 4: And when I saw that cover and the close up

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Speaker 4: of his face and the title, I was like, this

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Speaker 4: is genius. This is my marketing genius. So in a

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Speaker 4: synopsis of the book, Penguin Random House have said, with

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Speaker 4: its raw, unflinching honesty, Spare is a landmark publication full

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Speaker 4: of insight, revelation, self examination, and hard won wisdom, and

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Speaker 4: it also says that the book will take readers back

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Speaker 4: to one of the most searing images of the twentieth century,

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Speaker 4: two young boys, two princes, walking behind their mother's coffin

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Speaker 4: as the world watched in sorrow and horror. And it

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Speaker 4: talks about how people wondered what the princes must be

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Speaker 4: thinking and feeling, and how their lives would play on

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Speaker 4: from that point. And I think it's fascinating to start

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Speaker 4: at that moment when Harry was the boy who had

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Speaker 4: put the little handwritten note on his mum's coffin. And

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Speaker 4: I also think it sounds like this book is starting

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Speaker 4: from a point of vulnerability, because spare would have been

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Speaker 4: a term used against him for years and years, and

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Speaker 4: now it seems like he is reclaiming it. So the

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Speaker 4: book is going to be four hundred and sixteen pages.

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Speaker 3: I had something this morning that said, if you're expecting

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Speaker 3: this salacious Oprah style stuff, it's not going to be

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Speaker 3: that that. It's just it's a more affectionate tale than that.

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Speaker 4: A lot of people are saying there's no reason to

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Speaker 4: think he's going to slam his family. That's kind of

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Speaker 4: a media narrative, but there's nothing in any of the

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Speaker 4: promo materials that says that this is going to be

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Speaker 4: critical of his father. Apparently Charles is worried that it's

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Speaker 4: going to be critical of Camilla. There's no kind of

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Speaker 4: indication of that. But it's going to come out on

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Speaker 4: January tenth, which is three years to the day since

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Speaker 4: the Sussexes left the royal family and before King Charles's coronation,

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Speaker 4: so very very interesting timing. You would not want to

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Speaker 4: be releasing a book in January because you would be

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Speaker 4: competing with Oh, that book is just going to sell it.

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Speaker 3: See Pierce Morgan has said what a privileged upstart, pull

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Speaker 3: your head in, and I think a lot of people

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Speaker 3: would tend to agree when you see the things spare,

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Speaker 3: you know, they also ran. What about people that never ran,

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Speaker 3: people who just have horrible lives and just try and

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Speaker 3: find their way through. It's on. He's not alone in

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Speaker 3: having a hard life.

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Speaker 4: No, And there has been some commentary around that. There's

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Speaker 4: been that, as you said, Peters Morgan called impetulant, selfish, greedy,

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Speaker 4: hypocritical brat others. But others have said, and I think

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Speaker 4: this is really valid that in the last twenty years

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Speaker 4: there have been at least twenty books written about Prince

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Speaker 4: Harry and that he didn't cooperate with so I think

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Speaker 4: shouldn't he be able to tell his own story.

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Speaker 3: It's a very modern take on it, though, because Royals

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Speaker 3: never do. It's don't explain and don't complain, suck it in,

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Speaker 3: stiff upper lip, say nothing, this is new, this is new.

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Speaker 4: It all generation. But there's one tweet that really sums

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Speaker 4: up how I feel about this book, and it's by

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Speaker 4: British writer Bella Mackie, and she wrote, I thought Prince

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Speaker 4: Harry's book would be called something like Living with Purpose

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Speaker 4: my journey to finding my Way, but it's called Spare

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Speaker 4: and now I'm afraid I will read it.

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Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's yes.

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Speaker 4: I thought wishy washy kind of. He's done a few

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Speaker 4: things that seem they're not very concrete, but I think

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Speaker 4: that title is really going to get people. What do

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Speaker 4: you guys think about the timing? Do you think it's insensitive?

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Speaker 4: Do you think he he's going to get.

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Speaker 2: It out there?

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Speaker 3: When would it ever be good timing? They'll never be

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Speaker 3: good timing. He will cop a lot of criticism but

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Speaker 3: also maybe some empathy of the journey, but he's going

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Speaker 3: to cop it either way.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this, I'm going to read it.

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Speaker 1: I'm reading it, and not just because I'm curious, but

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Speaker 1: also then I'm assert for Amanda's Bitch and Booze and

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Speaker 1: book Club.

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Speaker 3: I don't think we'll be touching that.

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Speaker 2: Well, the and and book Club won't be touching this.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, I don't think we'll be doing and

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Speaker 3: I don't think emotionally, I can take myself back to

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Speaker 3: that moment. Isn't that pathetic? As soon as I feel

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Speaker 3: emotionally even talking about it, those two little boys. That's

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Speaker 3: why I feel affection for these boys exactly. They've grown

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Speaker 3: up under my watch and I don't think I could

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Speaker 3: bear to read how they.

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Speaker 4: Felt, which but it's very it is very millennial to

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Speaker 4: be like, well, it's my turn to tell my stories,

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Speaker 4: absolutely how life went.

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Speaker 3: And we've never ever had that from the royals.

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Speaker 2: So I'll have to go to the Bitch and Booze

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Speaker 2: and Book Club myself, Claire.

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Speaker 1: This has been great to hear more from Claire and

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Speaker 1: Jesse and see them all.

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Speaker 2: Dressed up in the same place.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes.

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Speaker 2: Go tomm amea dot com. Are you Claire? It's great

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Speaker 2: to talk you. We'll catch you next week.

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Speaker 4: Thank you