WEBVTT - Why Sleeping With Your Partner Could Be Ruining Your Relationship 💤💑 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:05.680 The Flex and Rooms Daily podcast, Hey little ones, as 0:00:05.880 --> 0:00:10.280 we talk. As I talk right now, I'm currently undressing 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:13.200 Amandarin mandarins have been in season lately. I've been eating 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:15.880 these ones called d lights. I haven't really been in 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.520 my fruit era. I eat a banana for breakfast as 0:00:18.720 --> 0:00:20.160 part of my Wheatbix routine. 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:22.040 But is that one of the good manda urins. I 0:00:22.040 --> 0:00:24.200 haven't had one this season. Then somebody recommended me to 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:25.960 go get some, and I was like, oh my goodness. 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:29.360 The only one I had a couple of days ago 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:35.199 was so dry, like desert dry, no liquid, just it 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:35.879 was terrible. 0:00:36.159 --> 0:00:38.000 There's two types. There's one. I don't know what the 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:40.240 brand is, but it's shit. And the other day I 0:00:40.240 --> 0:00:42.360 went to Woolwards and I asked the guy working, I'm like, 0:00:42.360 --> 0:00:44.680 which one is better? He's like, just just open two 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:49.520 of them and have a taste my Woolwords fresh Food King. 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:50.000 Yeah. 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:55.000 I was like, So I tried while and it tasted. 0:00:55.320 --> 0:00:57.840 All I can say is it tastes like an asshole seedless. 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.560 It had seeds in it, and it tasted like yeah, 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:05.240 and also like some mandarins. I have two associations with mandarins. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:07.640 The first one is when I was in primary school 0:01:07.640 --> 0:01:09.080 and mom would give me a little mandarin in the 0:01:09.240 --> 0:01:13.400 lunch box and it tasted like flowery, Yeah, terrible flowery. 0:01:13.480 --> 0:01:16.200 And it also smelt like artificial mandarin style, so it 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:18.960 smelt really strong but tasted really crap. But this matter 0:01:19.080 --> 0:01:21.280 that I'm having now, I started getting into mandarins a 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.040 few weeks ago when Louis McCurdy, one of the producers 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:25.160 that cater brought a mandarin in. 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.720 Not a producer, assistant content director. 0:01:27.880 --> 0:01:31.240 Oh to me, content and production is the same thing. 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:33.399 It's not anyway, Louis knows. 0:01:34.000 --> 0:01:35.360 My assistant host. 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:39.520 Nah, well, I don't believe in titles. So anyway, he 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:41.280 brought in a mandarin and it was so young, and 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:43.160 he gave me a little segment, so do you like? 0:01:43.319 --> 0:01:46.280 But anyway, I digress. What we're talking about today is 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:47.520 what is it? 0:01:47.520 --> 0:01:54.360 FLEXI? So basically for me was noticing how often I 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:57.240 talk about the apocalypse. But like many people think, it's 0:01:57.320 --> 0:02:05.600 I don't don't throw up bab and you pecked it 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.440 at me too, Why don't you peel off the white 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:09.520 bits before you handed it over? 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:10.880 I like the extra fiber. 0:02:11.080 --> 0:02:16.200 Where's the showmanship? The decorum. Can I speak if we 0:02:16.200 --> 0:02:19.000 was talking about how I talk about the apocalypse a 0:02:19.040 --> 0:02:21.600 lot and assumed, like most people, that I was being 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:27.440 facetious or that I will fear mongering, fear mongering or yeah, 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:31.679 maybe trying to like fear monger in a in like 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:34.000 an unfriendly way, And I'm like, no, no, no, I think 0:02:34.040 --> 0:02:36.359 that people are not prepared for a reality that real 0:02:36.400 --> 0:02:39.399 people are living right now, and that kind of ignorance 0:02:39.520 --> 0:02:42.239 is the most unsafe thing about it. Like, yes, we're 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:46.200 all gonna die one day, but in the meantime, what 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:48.480 would make life more enjoyable is not being in denial 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:49.680 about what our future is going to be. 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:53.520 Like really opened my eyes, I try. Anyway, before we 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.160 start this popping in your mouth. 0:02:55.680 --> 0:02:57.880 The thing I do like about mandarins is the taste. 0:02:57.919 --> 0:03:01.760 But it's a lot of labor or what could be 0:03:02.200 --> 0:03:03.200 subpar se. 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:05.680 No, I just read because it's like an orange, but 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:06.640 you have to cut an orange. 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:08.639 But you know what's so funny that I hate chewing sounds? 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:10.839 But I know what I hate more than chewing sound? 0:03:10.919 --> 0:03:11.480 Can I guess? 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:11.880 Yeah? 0:03:12.400 --> 0:03:14.320 Mouth sounds? No farts? 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:14.560 No? 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:17.760 Oh? Yeah? But okay, wait, is it give me a clue. 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:19.560 It's about the mouth. 0:03:20.840 --> 0:03:22.720 Oh, spit in the corners of the mouth. 0:03:22.880 --> 0:03:24.000 That's gross, But not that. 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:26.640 Give me another clue. No, come on, come on. 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.480 I like games. 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:33.200 It's about eating, oh, chewing with your mouth open, having 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:34.440 stuff enough. 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:37.960 But I just don't like messy eaters. If I see 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:41.880 sauce on your face, if I see like the mouth, 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:43.800 I think you can chew with your mouth open in 0:03:43.880 --> 0:03:44.720 a disgusting way. 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:45.680 Disagree. 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:48.480 And I think what made me really aware of it 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.320 is my family choose food in a way that I 0:03:51.360 --> 0:03:54.280 don't understand as a picky eater, because they would eat 0:03:54.320 --> 0:03:56.200 things that I would eat and that was terrible. But 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.440 the ware they chew it and like the mouth sounds 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:01.720 like it looks so delective people who are ugly eaters. 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:02.400 It's not for me. 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.120 Far out you should do the badcast. Okay. 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:13.640 And this is the thing. I have a question. And 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.080 I only thought about it recently because somebody had told 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:19.520 me that I'm quite generous with how I spend my money. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:20.120 I think it was me? 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:20.760 Was it you? 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:21.200 Yeah? 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:22.040 What was the context? 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.040 It was more generous? Like, for example, we were at 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.560 an event recently and you offered to drive everyone home. 0:04:26.839 --> 0:04:29.120 I thought that was generous, and given the petrol prices, 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:30.479 particularly generous. 0:04:30.720 --> 0:04:33.320 This is in particular to money. I think the context 0:04:33.440 --> 0:04:37.200 was somebody asking about splitting bills and whether or not 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:40.040 it should be itemized or should one person just cover it, 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:42.480 or like how free are you with it? And I 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:44.560 always think, if you've got it, you should share it, 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:47.720 And I don't think in the context of friendships, I 0:04:47.760 --> 0:04:49.320 think it's very clear to know who has and who 0:04:49.360 --> 0:04:51.080 doesn't have it, Like, I don't think we need to 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:54.400 split everything three ways. If someone out earns you triple 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:57.040 like relax, you can copy it for the team only 0:04:57.040 --> 0:04:59.159 if you want to. Though, when it comes to my 0:04:59.279 --> 0:05:01.360 good friend money lender, if I want to have an 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.480 experience that you don't have the coins for at the time, 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.200 I'll pay for it. I don't even think I have 0:05:05.279 --> 0:05:07.359 the expectation of seeing that money back because I know 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:09.560 how people are. It's like, if you didn't have it 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:11.320 to begin with, where are you getting it to pay 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:13.200 me back in the next six months? You just don't 0:05:13.200 --> 0:05:16.200 have the money, So for me, it's like parting with 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:19.800 it earnestly and saying like I am honoring in my 0:05:19.920 --> 0:05:22.280 head that I'm giving it to you for the benefit 0:05:22.279 --> 0:05:24.400 of the experience we're about to have. And if that's 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.800 the cost to have this experience, then I don't think that. 0:05:26.839 --> 0:05:29.120 I like, I'm expecting it back. But what about you? 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.359 What is your perspective on lending money to friends? Have 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:34.760 you ever had somebody ask you in particular or would 0:05:34.800 --> 0:05:37.600 you offer up money to a friend for an experience, 0:05:37.680 --> 0:05:40.640 a lunch, a dinner without the expectation of having it back. 0:05:40.680 --> 0:05:43.479 I would like to start actually by asking you, when 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.200 did you decide that you have enough money to be 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.520 shouting other people? When did the penny drop. 0:05:48.400 --> 0:05:50.920 From the jump? I have a very generous family, Like 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:55.040 we're working class, but I saw raised in the church obviously, 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:57.520 and a big part of that is being generous and 0:05:57.560 --> 0:06:00.279 like giving you know what you have, or making sure 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.279 that you know while you're eating good, the person next 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.040 to you isn't going hungry. So I remember, like every Sunday, 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.280 my mum would make a bunch of food, like I'm 0:06:08.320 --> 0:06:11.200 talking six different stews or whatever to take it to 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.240 church and just like feed people and be like, hey, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:15.360 take some dinner home or whatever. It's just something that 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:17.960 she did, and I didn't think of it as being generous, 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:22.520 but it definitely created an environment where the expectation was like, 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.440 don't be stingy. The phrasing was don't give with a 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:27.720 closed fist as well, like if you're going to give 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:31.640 someone something, whether it's like a favor, access to something, whatever, 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:33.080 just do it and let it go. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.839 The thing that I always think about this is again 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:38.560 like it sounds like that was an environment that fostered it. 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.880 You become more stingy the more stingy people that you're around. 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:44.440 There's nothing worse than being on the receiving end when 0:06:44.480 --> 0:06:47.320 you agree to pay for something and then it just 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:49.880 furstens you the whole time, and it's never a place 0:06:49.920 --> 0:06:52.240 like it makes you more of a stingy person to others. 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.359 It's like the smile thing. The more you smile, the 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.960 more smiles your back singy aire the more it becomes. 0:06:57.320 --> 0:06:59.320 And then like, for example, I've always been in like 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.719 friendship grew so growing up, I was in friendship groups 0:07:01.839 --> 0:07:04.080 that were stingy with each other, and then now as 0:07:04.080 --> 0:07:06.440 an adult, for example, I had all my girlfriends over 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.920 for dinner last night. Everyone's bringing wine and chocolates and 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.800 saying starters, can I bring hot chips? Like everyone's pitching 0:07:12.800 --> 0:07:14.360 in and it makes you want to go and buy 0:07:14.400 --> 0:07:17.480 the best ingredient to get a beautiful natural wine, and 0:07:17.520 --> 0:07:20.000 it creates such a more beautiful experience. But it's definitely 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:22.240 a very special thing. And I don't think many people 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.920 get that often. I will say on your thing about 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:28.800 like people earning three times more than others, the fact 0:07:28.840 --> 0:07:30.520 that you know the idea that they should get the bill. 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:31.400 I don't agree with that one what. 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.560 Make should get the bill? But I think be reasonable 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:35.800 about like the experiences you want to have access to, 0:07:35.920 --> 0:07:38.240 Number one. I think that to me, I'm like, what 0:07:38.320 --> 0:07:40.360 is the function of money for myself? Right? Like what 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:41.440 do I make money for? 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:43.240 It's like, what do you make money for to live. 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.680 A nice, easy, pleasurable, generous life but not alone? Like 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.760 what is what is the benefit of going to the 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.240 nicest restaurant if your friends can't come with you? That 0:07:51.320 --> 0:07:53.720 is so lame? What is the benefit having perks of 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.760 stuff if you can't do it people you'd like? I 0:07:55.800 --> 0:07:58.520 hate that, So I don't think it's like an expectation 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:00.920 that you should. But for me, I want to enjoy 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.160 with everyone, and so like the value of the shared 0:08:04.200 --> 0:08:07.800 experience means more to me than the small expense. I 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.320 know I can make back in a second, Like it's 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:14.040 chill for me this memory. We might not get another opportunity, Babe. 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.200 There might not be a Coachella to go to. You know, 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.440 there might not be a Garner to go to. Now 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:20.640 there's coins to take us there, we must go. 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:23.320 That's very nice. I'm not sure if I'm the same. 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.480 Just say you're stingy and go babies, Okay, you know what, 0:08:26.520 --> 0:08:28.560 I'll wear that because I am not going to pretend 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.520 I want to get everyone's expectations to be low. It's 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:32.520 like when you're in the lottery. 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:35.760 But I'm talking about friends like you still have it. 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:44.440 Oh oh, she said, leave them who bite? All right, Pete, Well, 0:08:44.520 --> 0:08:46.040 the more you know, and I don't think that's a 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.600 good or bad answer. Like you said, our younger experiences 0:08:49.679 --> 0:08:52.160 are dictating how comfortable we feel or don't feel, and 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.680 also the environments that we are in the generous family 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:57.400 and very generous friends and not just money. I'm talking 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:00.440 like generous with love, abundant thinkers, and so this just 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:03.320 feels like a self fulfilling prophecy where it's helping me 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.480 do this easily. I don't know Stingybinches. 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:08.480 It can go the other way. Like my head's very 0:09:08.480 --> 0:09:11.440 generous with money and with helping people, like he's one 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:13.320 little stop on the side of the road to like 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.240 help you help fix your car. He won't fix it, like, 0:09:16.280 --> 0:09:18.599 he'll make it worse, and he'll probably yell at you 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:20.800 while he's doing it, but he'll be the one to stop, 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:23.439 you know what I mean. But seeing our people will 0:09:23.440 --> 0:09:28.160 take advantage of his financial sharedness. That's why me and 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.360 my sister is stingy because we've seen people take advantage 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.600 of it and we like fudge that. So yeah, it 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:36.320 goes both ways. Flex and Frooms. I often think about 0:09:36.360 --> 0:09:39.480 what I want my future to look like. And when 0:09:39.520 --> 0:09:42.360 I'm here in Kbu Flexi, you talk about the future 0:09:42.400 --> 0:09:44.560 a lot. I guess you would say you would consider 0:09:44.559 --> 0:09:48.040 yourself a futurist in some respont futurists reading a lot 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.120 about the future about AI and you talk often about 0:09:51.120 --> 0:09:54.920 the apocalypse in our recordings together, though I go, damn, 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:57.280 you talk about the apocalypse a lot. I don't want 0:09:57.280 --> 0:10:00.240 to say it makes me depressed, but like I know 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:02.640 people that I think would listen, Like sometimes I'll be like, Oh, 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.800 it doesn't matter because everything's going to end anyway. And 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:08.640 I get blowback from my friends saying, that's really depressing 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.079 when you say that. You're not allowed to say that 0:10:10.160 --> 0:10:10.520 around me. 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:12.600 Oh really yeah, common boundaries. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:14.959 Yeah, so I guess I wanted to know. You talk 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.680 about the apocalypse, you talk about things ending and everything 0:10:17.679 --> 0:10:21.280 descending into chaos. If that does happen, like you're predicting, 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:23.000 how are you gonna deal with that? What are you 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:24.959 going to do in your life? I want to hear everything. 0:10:25.120 --> 0:10:26.840 Well, I will say that I think we are in 0:10:26.920 --> 0:10:30.560 the apocalypse now. Broadly speaking, the apocalypse is when things 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:34.040 the pendulum swings so far in the other direction that 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.480 life is not what you know it as that's happened 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:40.479 far too many times in our lifetime, such as COVID lockdown, 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.920 climate change, Like all of these things are quite apocalyptic 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:46.400 in nature, and I think because they're happening spread apart, 0:10:46.480 --> 0:10:49.200 we're not seeing how severe it is. But there's like 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:53.200 locust plagues in East Africa and in Arizona a couple 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.679 of years ago it was so hot that street signs 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:59.040 were melting. That is apocalyptic to me. But I feel 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.079 as though we're able to put on our peripherals and 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:04.040 you know, block ourselves out from seeing it. Therefore we 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:05.840 think it doesn't exist. So I think we're doing it now. 0:11:05.920 --> 0:11:08.640 I really feel like the apocalypse would just be taking 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.640 phone calls and like having deadlines and thinking that there's 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.880 like a bigger purpose to your labor in society. That 0:11:14.920 --> 0:11:19.120 would be it. If things descend into chaos like the 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.640 movies would have, it seemed the ground opens up, the 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:26.240 media is about to hit, or whatever. I'm going rogue babes. 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.920 I'm a true neutral. We did our alignment test a 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:31.840 couple weeks ago. It's like this personality test that dictates 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:33.480 how you see the world and how you act, and 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:36.480 I got true neutral. I'm self interested. I do what 0:11:36.520 --> 0:11:38.400 I want for me when I want, because I want. 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:42.080 That is a lifestyle I'm cranking into. I'm gonna start 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:47.040 looting if I can think of my life without responsibilities, 0:11:47.520 --> 0:11:53.280 free agent, doing road trips, looting, eating snacks, making friends, partying, 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.960 having chit chats, learning how to barter, setting up like 0:11:56.960 --> 0:12:02.040 a secondary capitalistic society, like a life will be burning. Man, 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:04.840 let's barter in trade. I'm really excited for that, though 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:07.280 I do think, you know, the other way that I 0:12:07.320 --> 0:12:09.480 see is that you know, we don't get stripped of 0:12:09.480 --> 0:12:12.920 our life, but it's the little luxuries we get stripped of, 0:12:13.120 --> 0:12:15.480 you know. Like I think it's a luxury for us 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:18.800 to be able to like have our identities and to 0:12:18.880 --> 0:12:22.560 claim our identities and to live lives as separate, hyper 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:26.000 individual people. Because give it a couple of years, maybe 0:12:26.040 --> 0:12:29.480 a couple decades, and we'll we'll be wearing gray suits 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.240 and will be numbers. And our only function is to 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.240 keep the world going. Because if you think about it, 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:39.480 this society that we've created only runs if enough people 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:44.200 work to keep it going. Like the plumbing and the 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:48.320 firefighters and the rubbish bin people and the delivery drivers 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:51.199 and all of them. We don't have access to those 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:55.080 things unless somebody does it. The farmers, the abattoir people. 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.520 So if everybody stops, there is no even bare minimum 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.120 for anyone. So I think what will end up happening 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:05.320 is it will become these just like workhorses, no name, 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:09.440 just number grade clothes. Clock in, do your job, go home, 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:12.520 wake up, clock in, But not do your job so 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:15.560 you can make money for your own personal life. It's 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:17.920 just do your job to do the job. Do the 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:19.400 job so the world keeps running. 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:24.480 That could be nice, not for me. I'm gonna be 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.360 going on an island for someone else. 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:28.600 I still need my snacks, so. 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.800 I'm gonna just stock up on chocolate and I'll be chill. Literally, 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.200 I will admit when we talk about it, flex it 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:37.680 worries me. I'm glad that I've heard your perspective on 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:42.000 it because it makes me feel more hopeful, because I 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:44.079 have this dissonance where I'm like, you talk about all 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:47.920 these things, but you like the luxuries that capitalism affords 0:13:48.000 --> 0:13:50.080 us and the way that we're living right now. So 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.400 and I know that you're very hypothetical, but I wonder 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:55.280 what you would actually be like in that scenario. You 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:56.520 think you could survive. 0:13:56.160 --> 0:13:59.160 It, well, it survive it like I survive capitalism now, 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.040 Like I'm not into Nile about what's required to live 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.720 well in the society we're living in now. And I 0:14:04.720 --> 0:14:07.240 think that's why I'm the way I am. Like if 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:09.320 I like when I was younger, everyone's like, did you 0:14:09.360 --> 0:14:12.600 always have an entrepreneurial spirit? No, I wanted an iPhone. 0:14:12.640 --> 0:14:14.240 I couldn't afford it. So I've got a job and 0:14:14.240 --> 0:14:16.120 I got two jobs and then three jobs. You know 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.960 what I'm saying, Like, my aspiration in life is not 0:14:18.960 --> 0:14:20.640 to work or be good at a job. I just 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:22.840 want things. And this is just what was required to 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.080 get said things. And now you know, you build a 0:14:25.080 --> 0:14:27.840 personal brand, you keep doing the thing to make more 0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.720 things right. But I also am acutely aware of that 0:14:30.760 --> 0:14:32.960 when we talk about the apocalypse hypothetically, I think it's 0:14:32.960 --> 0:14:36.160 hard for people in the West, especially to be like 0:14:36.840 --> 0:14:38.440 it could never get that bad. I'm like, babes, have 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.320 you heard about North Korea? Like it's currently terrible? Do 0:14:41.320 --> 0:14:42.760 you know what I'm saying, Like if you heard about 0:14:43.040 --> 0:14:46.400 like communist regimes, not even that, but like there are 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.120 worse places to live than Australia. And so when everyone's 0:14:49.120 --> 0:14:51.200 like we gonna the public could never happen, it's like 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:55.040 people live below the poverty line now, people aren't eating now, 0:14:55.200 --> 0:14:58.440 people don't have electricity and clean water now, and so 0:14:58.960 --> 0:15:01.280 for us to get there, we're just going to wear 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:05.120 real life humans currently about the day to day interesting, 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:08.240 which is scary. It's like you think about like let's 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.680 say ghana, for instance, their biggest export. It's like cocoa cool, 0:15:11.840 --> 0:15:15.880 Like everyone has nice chocolate because you know Garna provides coca. 0:15:15.880 --> 0:15:17.320 So do you think chocolate's better in Ghana. 0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:19.560 I'm not big on chocolate anyway, so I don't think 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:20.320 I'm a good You. 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:21.920 Need to bring smuggle some back for me. 0:15:22.160 --> 0:15:24.080 Can we bring chocolate back? Yeah? 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.800 I brought some back from Central America. Wouldn't say it's 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:31.960 my favorite. I like preservatives and milk, yeah, and a 0:15:32.080 --> 0:15:33.120 natural milk. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.280 And then what is like Australia's biggest exporter. 0:15:36.080 --> 0:15:42.240 Like wool, maybe all iron or crude crude oil? I think, yeah, 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:42.760 is it? 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:44.560 But then also I'm thinking like and then you see 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.800 like North Korea the biggest export is like weapons. Like 0:15:47.840 --> 0:15:50.720 the world is already scary now we just are afforded 0:15:50.720 --> 0:15:53.840 a lifestyle where we were. When we think about the apocalypse, 0:15:53.920 --> 0:15:56.600 it's a foreign concept, but it's apocalyptic now in the 0:15:56.640 --> 0:16:00.320 worst way right now. Interesting like remember when I was 0:16:00.640 --> 0:16:04.920 Hurricane Katrina and how long it took for those displaced 0:16:04.920 --> 0:16:08.600 people to find homes a decade? Like not having clean 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:12.120 water in Flint in the middle of America? Like right now, 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:14.840 can you imagine having to shower with bottled water for 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:19.520 years because your government won't supply water to you, these 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.320 are not like, right now, the world sucks. So when 0:16:22.320 --> 0:16:24.440 I say the apocalypse is nigh. When I think about 0:16:24.440 --> 0:16:27.240 the apocalypse, I'm like, I think about how would we 0:16:27.440 --> 0:16:31.080 function if we had to do anything terrible for longer 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.560 than just a fraction of time, Like lockdown would have 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.320 been the worst thing for some Australians ever. And it's like, okay, 0:16:36.360 --> 0:16:38.320 so you just got to stay in your amazing house, 0:16:38.800 --> 0:16:42.120 eating food and working from home. It's like you don't 0:16:42.120 --> 0:16:43.640 want to be a person's like be grateful you even 0:16:43.720 --> 0:16:45.760 have a house. But it's those same people who are 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:47.440 kind of like the apocalypse is such a foreign concept, 0:16:47.520 --> 0:16:49.800 could never happen. It's like, yeah, because you think life 0:16:49.920 --> 0:16:52.080 is your little bubble m. I like it. 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.680 I've gained more understanding of what you actually mean by 0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:57.880 apocalypse because to me it was not Again, I'm someone 0:16:57.880 --> 0:16:59.320 that wouldn't even think of it, Like, to me, it's 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:01.920 baseless and doing it for gags and it scares people. 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:03.960 Of course, it should scare people because we're not. 0:17:03.960 --> 0:17:05.840 Used to that, not prepared at all. 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.399 I remember when COVID first started, I was talking to 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:10.920 my mum about it and she was saying, how rickety 0:17:11.000 --> 0:17:14.160 supply chains actually are in a way that we don't realize, 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:18.560 Like if one little root cuts off, it's a domino 0:17:18.600 --> 0:17:21.840 effect in a way that we have not considered, and 0:17:21.880 --> 0:17:24.840 we're not prepared for it. And it's scary how unprepared 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.639 we are for it. Actually came out of COVID so well, 0:17:27.720 --> 0:17:28.760 all things considered. 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:33.440 Reminds me when somebody was asking me, you know, why 0:17:33.560 --> 0:17:36.960 is the fruit and veg so expensive? And I'm like, 0:17:37.000 --> 0:17:39.919 but don't you understand, supermarket models, it's not the fresh 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.399 ingredient that's making the money. It's all those unnecessary things 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:49.199 like lollies and chips and expensive luxuries that are and 0:17:49.240 --> 0:17:51.480 the markup on those things that are making these supermarket 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.720 chains money. So when the it gets really expensive to 0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:58.200 bring in fruits and veg, they're not gonna like subsize 0:17:58.240 --> 0:18:01.159 that cost for you because I already don't make money 0:18:01.160 --> 0:18:03.520 in that area, not enough. It's like if I can 0:18:03.560 --> 0:18:06.240 buy an orange for a dollar, how much did the 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.720 grocery store buy it from the farmer fla how many 0:18:08.800 --> 0:18:11.560 years did it take him or her or them to 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.439 soil and toil to make that orange? So I can 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:15.160 buy it for a dollar. 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:17.919 Soil and toil. Yeah, I mean the thing that I 0:18:17.920 --> 0:18:20.480 think about with the apocalypse and particularly the pretty command 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:25.080 in Australia. Myself particularly, I hate the idea of getting 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:28.399