1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me. Lola Berry, author, nutritionist, 2 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: and yoga teacher, join me as we get to know 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to Fearlessly Failing with Lola Berry. Kiloha. 5 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: Happy Monday to all Ossie's listening to this, Happy Sunday 6 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: to all the Americans listening to this. I'm really excited 7 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,200 Speaker 1: about today's guest. I mentioned too that I'm really trying 8 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 1: to get local people on the pod while I'm here 9 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: in La So today is my incredible scene partner. Mofrier 10 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Passek was an actor, comedian, writer, all round funny person 11 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: but also just super super talented. Most spent the last 12 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 1: six years or so the last eight years actually in 13 00:01:09,480 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: New York really grinding and kind of like building their 14 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: skill set in the comedy scene, training but also stand 15 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 1: up co hosting comedy shows, also putting on drama theater 16 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: as well that got critically acclaimed like New York Times, 17 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: also New Yorker, the American theater magazine Killing It. Also 18 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: can I say, and this is a massive spoiler alert, 19 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: but Moe was in the movie called Rough Night, starring 20 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: Scarlet Johansson and the scene that motas literally walks in 21 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: drunk to a bedroom where the lead actors are kind 22 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: of all look looks like a slumber party, and Moe's 23 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: characters drunk walks in it and goes ahead and tries 24 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: to pee in front of everybody, and it's I'm going 25 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: to put the trailer link in the show notes because 26 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: I'm putting writing notes for this right now because most hilarious. Also, 27 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: you're going to get a taste of work ethic, which 28 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 1: is a really great takeaway, also a taste of the 29 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: importance of therapy, and with therapy, the bonus that comes 30 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: from it is a sense of self understanding and therefore 31 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: self belief, which is really really cool. I think anybody 32 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: who has got any kind of dream, whether it be 33 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 1: in the arts, whether it be you know, in finance 34 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: or law, like, I think you've got something to gain 35 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: from Mo, because Moe is unapologetically themselves and MO is 36 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 1: just dream chasing, which I love. And I think when 37 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: you're in a place where you can dream chase, where 38 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 1: there's so much opportunity, and on top of that, you've 39 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: got this really good sense of who you are and 40 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 1: neatly as a human being than anything's possible. So I 41 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: really hope you enjoy this chat. Thank you so so much, Mo. 42 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: It was an absolute honor to have you on the pod. 43 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 1: Big love. Hope you love it guys, and remember subscribe 44 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: comment all the jazz that makes the pod get the 45 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: lovin and means we can send it out to more peeps. 46 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 1: Love you, boy. I pressed record early too to throw 47 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: you straight in. Okay, mo Fry, hang on, hang on. 48 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to not if this up mo Fry passic 49 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 1: now that, did I really? 50 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:29,959 Speaker 2: Yes? 51 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, okay, So stand up comedian, actress, writer, 52 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: And then can I say comedian as well, because you do, 53 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: because stand up and comedy are two different things, are 54 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 1: they not? 55 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 2: You can be yeah, but you know a comedy is 56 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: on encompassing, I would say, cool. Yeah. 57 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: So to start this off, we were seeing partners as 58 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: soon as I moved to LA and I remember after 59 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: my I think, even like my first or second rehearsal, 60 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: I call boss and I was like, I think I've 61 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: made a friend life. So I'm honored to have you 62 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: on the podcast. 63 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 2: I'm honored to be on the PITH and to be 64 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: your friend. After the first rehearsal, I was so really 65 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 2: I was nervous because I was like, oh my god, La, 66 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: Capital a actor, you know what I mean. I was like, 67 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a Nutter curse. 68 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: Yeah okay, yeah, yeah, as much as you want. 69 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 2: But I was like sure of it. And then when 70 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: you and I just met, I was so relieved, just 71 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,039 Speaker 2: so real and incredible actress. 72 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: I love that you just said capital A actor. I 73 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 1: call it it's school. We would call it like I 74 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: am acting, I am. And so for people listening that 75 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: are like, what are you guys talking about? Basically, that's 76 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: like someone that takes themselves very seriously, maybe drinks that 77 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 1: are in cool a big time, you know, and thinks 78 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: they're awesome. 79 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 2: Someone who, like you know, like it could fall under 80 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: pretentious energy where they're just like. 81 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: So diplomatic of you, douchebags. You have been so much 82 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: fun to YouTube and look at You've done so much stuff. Sure, yeah, 83 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: so previous because you're pretty new to La as well. 84 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 1: You're like six months here or so. Yeah, so previously 85 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: that six years in New York. 86 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: Eight years in New York, oh wow, years in New York, 87 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 2: four in Boston and Boston's where I started comedy, but 88 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: I did all my schooling and work and practice in 89 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: New York. 90 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: So cool, Okay, So I want to talk about that 91 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: because I think, especially a lot of Aussie listeners, they 92 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: love to travel across the other side of the world 93 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: and train. So you're training in New York. That was 94 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: comedy training. 95 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was comedy training. That was I did improv training. 96 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: And then I just which is like, like I look 97 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: back on that, I'm like, it was chaotic period of time, 98 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:49,239 Speaker 2: but I'm very glad that I have the improv training 99 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: that I do for comedic roles, for even my stand up, 100 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 2: for all of that. But then maybe, gosh, I want 101 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: to say, like a year in or two years in, 102 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: I had a dear friend of mine who was a 103 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 2: wonderful stand up and you know, writer and creator Julio Torres, 104 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: who was like, oh, you need to do stand up, 105 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 2: like you need to try it. Yeah, And so it 106 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 2: was some show that he ran in Brooklyn and he 107 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: booked me to do stand up on it, and I 108 00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: started just doing stand up and I did a little 109 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 2: bit in Boston, but I totally dropped it when I 110 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 2: got to New York. And so Julio heard it was 111 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 2: like do it and. 112 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: How long does this stand up? 113 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: It depends on the show. Like you can do a 114 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: you know, you know, if you can build an hour 115 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 2: and have your own show, you can do a half hour. 116 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: It's a long time, yeah, but usually spots are like 117 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:38,119 Speaker 2: eight to fifteen minutes. 118 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, got it. 119 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: And like in the early days, like when you're just 120 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: starting out, you get like three to five. Got it, 121 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: and you gotta get your jokes in. You gotta, you know, 122 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: see if they hit, if they don't hit, rework it, 123 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: drop it, et cetera. 124 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:53,600 Speaker 1: Speaking of early work and early jokes, you have this 125 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: so good it's on YouTube and me being like a 126 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: gossip girlfriend. You hot to give up a scene from 127 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: Gospel Girl. But what was that actor? What was that 128 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: character's name? He was like a baddie dary oh gosh, Damien. 129 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: It was like the baddie that really was in love 130 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: with Blake Lively's. 131 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 2: Character, the drug dealer. 132 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's bad news but kind of like troubled, broken, hot, 133 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: all those kind of things. Yeah, and you've cut together 134 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: him having a really serious conversation with like either Jenny 135 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: or what was Blake's character Serena Serena it's obviously him 136 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: like there's a romantic vibe to it. Yeah, and you've 137 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 1: cut it to you being like, yeah, I've just had 138 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: a vegan but he's like, what are you doing right now? 139 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: I've just had a vegan brownie. 140 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 2: So it was I love doing that because it was 141 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 2: like twenty thirteen, right, it was like before there was 142 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 2: like TikTok or apps that helped you edit that. Yeah, 143 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 2: and so that I like, now that's a diamond does 144 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 2: in that like style. But that was like very I 145 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 2: don't know, it didn't like take off in any way, 146 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: but I was very proud of that because it was 147 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: just like it made me laugh. They're all so serious 148 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: on their phone calls, and I loved like inserting myself 149 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 2: into those worlds. And so it was just like a 150 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 2: goofy little series I did. 151 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: And you're literally standing on some New York straight. 152 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm on like twenty fourth or twenty third 153 00:08:12,760 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: and like fifth and I'm just staying there. It's busy, 154 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: and I'm like, you know, on my iPhone whatever era 155 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 2: that was like a sixth or something like earlier, even 156 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: like yeah, recording on that, but and then I would 157 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: like put it into iMovie on my computer and. 158 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Then yeah, I'll look at you. I used to do 159 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: all my stuff on iMovie as well. Oh wow, okay, 160 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: I have to ask. This has nothing to do with 161 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: acting or comedy, but like I feel like having traveled 162 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 1: a lot to New York or like I don't know, 163 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 1: three or four times in New York. Like I love 164 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: New York. I love the energy, I love the pace. 165 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: I love that it's a hard city. Like I would 166 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: describe it, it's quite hard, and you know, like if 167 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: you could miss the beat really easily easily, but then 168 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: you come here and La kind of feels like you 169 00:08:57,559 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: can kind of do whatever you want in La and 170 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: like people like cool, Yeah, you know, but there is 171 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 1: a different there is a different energy, Like people can 172 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: be flaky here and it's a little bit different, whereas 173 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: I think I find them very like pole opposite almost. 174 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: But my question is do you miss do you miss 175 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: that vibe totally? 176 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 2: I mean I will say for anybody like going to 177 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 2: New York, the first year will be hell, no matter what. 178 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 2: And even if you can like have good moments or like, 179 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,600 Speaker 2: like it is what, it's the hardest city. I was 180 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: working like three jobs, like just depressed as hell. My 181 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 2: room was sixty three square feet. I had no kitchen, 182 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: Like it was like, oh my god, the classic, Like 183 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 2: you got a grind and once I got through that year, 184 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 2: because in that year, what you do is you make friends, 185 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: you build community, you find spaces to exist in, and 186 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: like you build a life for yourself. But that sort 187 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: of initial build I always remind anyone who's like, I 188 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,680 Speaker 2: don't know why I'm exhausted. You know, it's like it's 189 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 2: a stimulating city. You're always around people around energy, you're taking, 190 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: you're taking things in constantly. You're also trying to achieve 191 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: a dream. You're also trying to find friends and people 192 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 2: to support that dream. So it's exhausting your one no 193 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: matter what. And I think, like you forget. It's easy 194 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,959 Speaker 2: to forget that once you finally because once you find 195 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 2: community and once you're doing what you love, it is 196 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: the most magical place on earth. It is wonderful. Like 197 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: I could get up on any show you know, and 198 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 2: like ask friends to work some stuff out, and like 199 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: I was able to like have relationships with theaters and 200 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: put up off Broadway plays with a creative comedic partner, 201 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 2: and like able to do that, but you have to 202 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 2: work for a long time and grind, so it's easy 203 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 2: to take it for granted when you're able to do 204 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 2: those and get to those spaces because and it's magical. 205 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 2: I miss I missed that energy. I missed that like 206 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: let's put something together. Yeah, let's make something, let's make 207 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: something crazy. Yeah, I missed that a lot. But it 208 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 2: takes a lot of work to get there. 209 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 1: For sure. I love that. I love that you're like 210 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 1: breaking down the facoccause I think a lot of Aussie's 211 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: are like, you get to America. You have this career 212 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 1: in Australia that is really great. You get to America 213 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: and it's like you're there, You're ready. It's just it's 214 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: not and it's totally not like I even I was 215 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: saying to Matt, like even La, like it's a it's 216 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: i'll call it tough, like I think there's a toughness 217 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: to La. There's and and it's Aussies are quite reserved, 218 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,320 Speaker 1: so when Americans really open and forward and direct, it 219 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: can feel really abrasive. When you first get here, you're like, 220 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, there's a different way of communicating. I'm sure, 221 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 1: but yeah, I just it's so nice that you shared 222 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:34,679 Speaker 1: the kind of like the grind of it all, because 223 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: I I would say that also exists in LA, especially 224 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: for an Aussie coming over. 225 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 2: Oh gosh, it has to, I think. And also that 226 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: sort of expectation I found that when I because it's 227 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: like I only started coming to LA when I would 228 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 2: be able to take meetings or like get a little 229 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: bit of work. And so it took you know, like 230 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 2: four years, five years to be able to start coming 231 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 2: to LA. And even that, you do so much groundwork 232 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 2: in New York. You're you're you're what is it baseline? 233 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: You're zero here? 234 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 235 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 2: Like you have to redo that work here, and you 236 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 2: are more prepared to do it, You are more skilled 237 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,600 Speaker 2: to do it because of the work you've done in Australia, 238 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: because of the work you've done in New York. But 239 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: you you gotta humble yourself and realize, like new game, 240 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: new playing field, new everything, nothing is like given to 241 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: you because of what you've previously done. 242 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: Oh it's it's gonna be here when I like, can 243 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: we just mike a pact here on the podcast? We're 244 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: gonna be mites forever. 245 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 2: I knew right away because also like I was in 246 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 2: the same position where it's like you're you know, you're 247 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: coming from a much different space. But I was like 248 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: in Wisconsin for the pandemic and then I, you know, 249 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: I was in New York before that, so here I've 250 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: been like trying to you know, find friends, you know, 251 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: find a new community and build a life here. And 252 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 2: so I think we both were on that wavelength and 253 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 2: found each other because we're like, we want friends, we 254 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 2: want people who support each other, you know what I mean. 255 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: And I think you and I are very supportive of fearlessly. 256 00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: Failing, but also as well and you knew this about me, 257 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: But like I had this like calling to like really 258 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,600 Speaker 1: dig my team into something comedic. But I'd never done 259 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: it before. Like all my training is theater and very 260 00:13:08,480 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 1: dramatic and very i'm gonna say a bit heavy. Some 261 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: of the sounds quite heavy what you're saying, it sounds like, yeah, 262 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: in a good way. But I was like, I feel 263 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: like there's this part of me, this skill set, or 264 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,720 Speaker 1: this like natural inclination that I'm not tapping into. And 265 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: it was just such a hoot to be able to 266 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: like deep dive into like comedy with you and just 267 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: have so much fun. And that's why I want to 268 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,440 Speaker 1: talk to you about like some of the stuff that 269 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: you've done to date, because even on one of my 270 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 1: favorite things I saw of you on YouTube, it's this 271 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: skit called I think it's called Fight Night and it's 272 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,720 Speaker 1: for a think called The Special or it's a show 273 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: The Special and your corla. Yeah, and you're like running 274 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: this training camp for women. But basically I saw so 275 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: the concept of the show looked like someone had put 276 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: in an idea, like submitted an idea and then did 277 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: you guys formulate that skit or with some of it improv? 278 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: Like what was the formula? 279 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 2: What's brilliant about that show? Was almost all improv? Wow, 280 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: So there's like beats that we have to hit. Yeah, 281 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 2: and that show was like Brett Davis is an incredible 282 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 2: creator and he's very like underground New York scene. So 283 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 2: anybody who gets to listen to his podcast or see 284 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 2: his shows really should dig get in. Yeah, he's wonderful 285 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: and I credit him with So I was part of 286 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: the Brooklyn alt community, which means alternative comedy, which is 287 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: just less mainstream more like you know that style has 288 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 2: become mainstream over the past ten years, but at the 289 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 2: time it was not and I think Brett gave a 290 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: lot of people opportunities because what that was was a 291 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 2: local cable access TV show, and so he took over 292 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 2: from Chris Gethard, who was another incredible comedian, and the 293 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 2: weekly show it was every week and you just had 294 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: to put something together, and he would grab comedians from 295 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 2: the community and be like, hey can you do this? 296 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: Can you put this idea here? Hey can you play 297 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,480 Speaker 2: a boxer? Hey can you do this? And really gave 298 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: us an opportunity to feel like we were working you 299 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 2: know what, I feel like we were doing something and 300 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 2: it was like it was on TV and he had 301 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 2: like a. 302 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: Full ensemble as well, like full gang. It looks so fun. 303 00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 2: And incredible, like people to work off with like that 304 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 2: have gone on to direct incredible things and you're doing 305 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 2: wonderful things. And he would get wonderful actors as guests, 306 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: and it was just a really special feeling that we 307 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: got to use our comedy chops in a way where 308 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 2: he was like bring it, like this is every week. 309 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 2: I need to be able to rely on you as 310 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 2: comedians to bring comedy. Here's the outline, you know, go 311 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 2: for it. God. 312 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: I love that you've already referred to your comedic partner. 313 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm guessing that's Tim Platt. Yes, Yes, And there's this 314 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:47,440 Speaker 1: amazing thing I saw of you two. I think it's 315 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: like the Subway skit, and like it's so cute. You're 316 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: like belting out like that classic girl with their headphones 317 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: in and belging out of June and he's like, like, 318 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: I don't have to scrape. He's got like gob smacked 319 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: by use the word I want to use. And so 320 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: the thing that blew me away in that scene. First 321 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, moke and sing. I 322 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: had no idea you've kept that secret. 323 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 3: You know. 324 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 2: When called, I was like, your sounds like your triple threat. 325 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: And then I love like that character of that girl 326 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: that you were playing, like you're a mate. I don't 327 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: know if anyone's told you, but like your vocal range 328 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: for like changing pitch for character, because she spoke much 329 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: higher than your natural voice. 330 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: Looks like this and she's so excited to be here. 331 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think you've got another I think it 332 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: was with him, another skit where you've got a crush 333 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: on like a teacher or something. 334 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 2: Teacher student that's one of our favorites. Yeah, and you 335 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 2: do the same thing. You do the like gigerly like 336 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: high bore high. I call her like the theater girl. 337 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: It's like, I love New York City. It's incredible here. 338 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 2: And she's like, oh my god. 339 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: Do you do voice overs like I wish sombody pay me? Yeah, 340 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: totally no, but like I've also seen you do British accent. 341 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: We did the Lara Croft skit as well, and your 342 00:17:01,880 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: British accent didn't break once. 343 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: No, I can't do it performance exactly, thank you. 344 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 1: I will say Moe and I after class at acting 345 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 1: school will go we all go across the road and 346 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 1: have a drink together. People eat and everything we get 347 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: and usually like halfway through Veno one mo wis start 348 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: being able to do an I was the accent and. 349 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 2: I just repew. 350 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, very good, very very very good. Okay, 351 00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: So I want to talk about fifty to fifty old 352 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: school animation. So this is we're not talking comedy here. 353 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: We are talking full blown dramatic. We're talking twenty five 354 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: minute monologue. And I watched an interview with the other actor. Yeah, 355 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: and she described it as like cruel viol and misogyny state. 356 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a real rough it's it was one of 357 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: the most intense experiences and it's still ongoing. We're hoping 358 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 2: to perform it more Germany. Yeah, we did like the 359 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,119 Speaker 2: festival circuit and went to Germany. We're supposed to go 360 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 2: to England the COVID and then hopefully we'll you know, 361 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 2: keep touring with it. But it was so I met 362 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,879 Speaker 2: them through Tim Patt because they're part of like the 363 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 2: Brooklyn like theater scene, and I wasn't a part of that. 364 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: I was part of the comedy scene. But they were 365 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 2: very funny and Peter, who is the other collaborator, was 366 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: part of the comedy scene. And I had this sketch yes, 367 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 2: that they saw so they needed someone for this monologue 368 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 2: who could cry and oh my god, yes and yeah, 369 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,400 Speaker 2: I have this very stupid, very funny, like nine minute 370 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,439 Speaker 2: long sketch. It's like so stupid and the payoff is 371 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 2: very little, and I love it where Tim and I 372 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 2: go on stage and we're fighting and I say yes, 373 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 2: yes I am, Yes i am, and it looks like 374 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 2: this boyfriend and girlfriend are fighting. And I then take 375 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:07,480 Speaker 2: the stage and do this whole monologu where I'm just 376 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 2: sobbing and then I do it for like six minutes 377 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 2: and then I look at him. I'm like well, and 378 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 2: then Tim just finally comes forward and you think this 379 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: boyfriend is going to like apologize. He goes, Okay, you 380 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 2: are a better actress than Natalie Portman. So stupid, so dumb. 381 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,440 Speaker 2: The fay off has worked like twice and it makes 382 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 2: us laugh, which is always cared and so but I 383 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 2: spend that whole six minute sobbing. And so then they 384 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: saw that and they're like, hey, would you want to 385 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: come audition for this piece we're doing? And the piece 386 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 2: more from that, yeah, tenfold over the years. But very 387 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 2: it's about, like it's about the way women internalize misogyny 388 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 2: and perpetuate violence against themselves and also violence against other 389 00:19:56,160 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 2: women because the way you know, the patriarchy works, it's 390 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 2: this beautiful oil oiled machine because we take it on 391 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 2: ourselves then and then we end up hurting other women 392 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 2: and abusing other women and so internalizing it and seeing 393 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 2: the way that affects different female bodied individuals. And so 394 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 2: it's a really dark piece because you don't know whether 395 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: or not the initial person that Julia plays is a sociopath, 396 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 2: but she talks about violence. 397 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 1: I've seen clips. 398 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 2: Of Julia's bit. 399 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. I was like, whoa, this would be 400 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 1: so because she eyeballs everyone in the audience. Yeah, she 401 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: said she wants everyone to have to see each other. 402 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: And I was like, how confronting. Because often when you 403 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: go to the theater, it's escapism yep for you, And 404 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: I was like, whoa. The whole sense is it would 405 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: almost feel like a weird not weird, but like a 406 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 1: really confronting I don't know, it almost feels like a 407 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: complete different experience where you'd be. 408 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,200 Speaker 2: We had to start putting signs of towards the exits 409 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 2: because people will get so uncocomfortable and they would try 410 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 2: and like scramble the lead. Yeah, some people would start crying, 411 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: some people start laughing. In my head, I was like, 412 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 2: is it this turbo like damn, but people are really 413 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 2: uncomfortable being confronted. 414 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah yeah that eyebowling thing. I would have 415 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 1: been like, oh oh shit. I thought I was here 416 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: to like escape myself for an evening, you know, And. 417 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 2: It's in so like someone called it like nerve shredding 418 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: because it's fifteen minutes straight and it's just and it's 419 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 2: Julia talks about what I think the part that people 420 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: really don't like about it is that Julia talks about 421 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 2: this violence that she committed against a woman and then 422 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: my you know, a woman who then experiences sexual assault 423 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: and as a result of Julia's actions, And then my 424 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,680 Speaker 2: character comes on and she is the most annoying person possible. 425 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 2: She is so hyped up and talks at this level 426 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 2: and talks really fast, and it's so agitating. After you 427 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 2: heard Julia talk at this pace, and I have all 428 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 2: these sound effects that I. 429 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: Play very bo bonum, I say, and there's a little 430 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: clip of view as well. Yeah, and I was like, oh, 431 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: this is so. 432 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: It is and it's wild and half I think it's 433 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: people begin to hate me, and when it's too late, 434 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 2: you realize I'm the person who had been sexually assaulted. 435 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 2: You realize I'm the person who was abused by all this, 436 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 2: and you realize that like, I'm this way because I 437 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 2: have such deep like self hatred and deep unresolved trauma. 438 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 2: And I think the audience really struggles with the fact 439 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 2: that they didn't like me, and they see in themselves 440 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: the parts that people trigger, you know, and it's like 441 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 2: unresolved trauma, and so it was really interesting. And in 442 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,360 Speaker 2: the end I end up self harming myself for the 443 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 2: you know, and the audience gets really uncomfortable. It's all 444 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 2: like safe, but but it is. It was just such 445 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 2: a personally cathartic experience because having been a comedian, to 446 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 2: do just pure seriousness was wonderful. And also just to 447 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 2: like do a piece that it's important to me, uh, 448 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 2: felt really powerful and intense. 449 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: And also like, what about your So this is full 450 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,199 Speaker 1: blown drama. Oh where were your Where was your training 451 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: at this stage? Or were you just going cold from 452 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: all your comedy training? 453 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 2: So I had some classes in college. 454 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's pretty amazing slash scary. 455 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what it was. So I my piece, 456 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 2: my twenty five minute lollogue, was transcribed from my own 457 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 2: like I said it, and I improvised the whole thing 458 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,760 Speaker 2: and then they transcribed it. Yeah, so I had a 459 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 2: different kind of connection to it than just like a 460 00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: cold read. 461 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 462 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 2: So I had been We had spent like six hours 463 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 2: one rehearsal just improvising and I was, you know, playing 464 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 2: this character, and then they recorded it all and condensed 465 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: it to twenty five minutes. 466 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,919 Speaker 1: Oh wow. 467 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 2: And so I think coming at it from such a 468 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 2: person and I so I talked about a personal experience 469 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 2: with a friend that was like Julia, and I had 470 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 2: gone through that, and so to bring that energy to it, it's, 471 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: you know, it's those rare characters that you do get, 472 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: that you connect with, that you can bring yourself to. 473 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:11,680 Speaker 2: And so I think I was gifted in that way 474 00:24:11,720 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: where I might have needed more direct training had it 475 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 2: not been such like a like, I. 476 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: Think it's wonderful that you've gone in with mainly an 477 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: improv training and then come to drama with an improv. 478 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: You've come into it through improvisation, which is so cool 479 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: for people listening. Improv is pretty much like unscripted. Ye, 480 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,399 Speaker 1: You're just pretty very very present and you're feeding off 481 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: one another. Is that kind of feed up. 482 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 2: There's a lot of rules to improv and then you 483 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 2: throw them away, is what it is like. You have to, 484 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 2: you know, within the first three lines, establish what your 485 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,240 Speaker 2: relationship is, who you are to each other, where you are, 486 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: and like the stakes and so, and then you can 487 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: play from there. And so the Upright Citizens Brigade, which 488 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 2: is the school that I studied at uc B. Their 489 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 2: policy is like guess and so if someone says something, 490 00:24:57,440 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: you have to yes, and it meaning yes, I agree 491 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: with what you're saying, and I'm going to add to it. 492 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: So coold it's great. So instead of so no matter what, 493 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,800 Speaker 2: you're building a scene constantly, So instead of selling me like, hey, 494 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 2: I love those cherries you have, instead of being like, no, 495 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 2: these aren't cherries, these are bananas, it's like your scene's 496 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 2: over totally, yeah, and there's no where to go. But 497 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,959 Speaker 2: you say yes, these cherries are actually magical cherries and 498 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 2: then like you can and it yeah, And it's like, oh, 499 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 2: that's crazy because I'm a witch and you know what 500 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 2: I mean and like and so it's fun to take 501 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 2: the rules of improv and when you're playing with really 502 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: good people then they throw them all away. 503 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so fun. I've watched I have such a career 504 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: crush on Steve Colbert. 505 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, and I'm pitty kidding, oh yeah. 506 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 1: And he talks about always listening, like and Niver blow 507 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,439 Speaker 1: and you don't block. When someone offers you something, you 508 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 1: don't go They're not cherries, they're mandarins. Mandarines. You'd be 509 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: like exactly what you said. Delicious magical powers. 510 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and it's so fun to watch people like 511 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert who are so talented at it and do 512 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: it with such ease. Oh my gosh. 513 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: There's a great I'm going to send this to you. 514 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: There's a great video of Steve Colbert and Will Farrell's 515 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: come on as a guest and he's holding a kitten, right, 516 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: and he's like, this is a yeah, SI was fired mongoose. 517 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: And you can tell Stephen Cobbett there's obviously an amazing 518 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: moment in there. And and he doesn't want to block him, right, 519 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: So Stephen Colbert is like, now, I could be wrong. 520 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 1: I could be wrong here. It looks a lot like 521 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: a kiddy cat. And so he didn't block him, but 522 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: there was. 523 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: Such a great he let him like lift up like, actually, 524 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 2: you know he can be like, yes, it does look 525 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: like a cat, but in fact it has murdered seven people. Yeah, 526 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 2: and like he can like lift that up and like 527 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 2: and like that is a skill. 528 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: Right. 529 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 2: He didn't block him, but he made it seem like it. Yeah, masterful. 530 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: Oh, I could nerder out over people for so long. 531 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: So just before we move on from your fifty to 532 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: fifty old school animation. You got reviews New York Times, 533 00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: the New Yorker, the American Theater Magazine. Was that I 534 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: imagine there like real career pinch yourself moments. 535 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I mean that was so cool. 536 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:17,880 Speaker 1: That was awesome. 537 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 2: And you know why it was so awesome is because 538 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 2: in this career, like we're always gunning for things, you know, 539 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 2: always like hoping we get that. 540 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: Repass American thing to say, always gunning. 541 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 2: Of course, no, no, no, but we just don't eat 542 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 2: that way we do. But what I what was such 543 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: a gift about it is that I didn't know that 544 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 2: any that it was getting reviewed in any way. I 545 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 2: didn't know that you had no idea, no idea cool. 546 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 2: And that's a credit to Peter and Julia because they 547 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: were all about the work. They were all about the performance. 548 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 2: They didn't mention who was coming, they didn't mention it 549 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 2: was like and they also didn't care. They were so 550 00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 2: elated to have such positive reviews. But it wasn't a 551 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 2: about that and it was gravy. Yes it was. It 552 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,639 Speaker 2: was no disrespect. It was awesome and incredible, But to me, 553 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 2: they would focus on my performance, and you know what 554 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: was making What was really wonderful is what was making 555 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 2: me feel safe, because it is it was a volatile 556 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 2: and sensitive subject to be, you know, doing a monologue about, 557 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 2: and so yeah, I felt so entrenched in the work. 558 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 2: At the time, I was just like, I got a review, 559 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 2: Its great, what do I do? You know? I was 560 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: like a little thrown off, but it was really lovely 561 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: and I'm happy to have those for the rest of 562 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 2: my life. 563 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: Totally. When I was writing it, I'm like, that's like 564 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: the pinnacle is New York Times, right, Like. 565 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Ben Brandley, the New York Theater critic, had nice 566 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 2: things to say, and I was like, because I know, 567 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 2: you know, I've known his name for years, and so 568 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 2: I didn't even think of myself because I think of 569 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 2: myself as comedian. I didn't think of myself as in 570 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: that race, you know what I mean, in that ability 571 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: to get noticed, and so that was so cool and 572 00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 2: really special. 573 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: A lot of actors that play both will say that 574 00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 1: they're two in the one thing drama comedy. Yeah, you're 575 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: playing even more desperate when you're playing comedy because you 576 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 1: want it so bad, like you want. 577 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 2: And I think I think the reason my monologue in 578 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: that too is because it was a comic relief, Like 579 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 2: Julia's character is so intense and so upsetting, and I 580 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 2: have an entire three page diatribe on gluten free bread 581 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 2: and like, and so people were just like releasing and 582 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: laughing with those. But it's a dark piece. So it 583 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:35,200 Speaker 2: is one and the same very much. 584 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: So oh wow, okay, so much other stuff that you've done, 585 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: as I want to go on. So you co hosted 586 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: a comedy show every other Sunday, Yeah, trying mine yet right? 587 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 2: Perfect? 588 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: How fun was that fun? 589 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 2: Oh? My gosh, it was. 590 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: That's more like if you're co hosting it, that's more 591 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: MC almost and all. 592 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: So I hosted it with Sudie Green and Bow and 593 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 2: Yang and both of them work at SNL and they're 594 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 2: like wonderful comedians. And we all met at UCB back 595 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: in like twenty thirteen or fourteen doing improv. Yeah, and 596 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: the three of us really and they're constantly working, you know, 597 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 2: on comedy, But the three of us really wanted to 598 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 2: work on our stand up and we wanted to like 599 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 2: hone our set and be able to practice stupid shit 600 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 2: like sometimes you get booked on a show, you want 601 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 2: to do your best set. You want to do that, 602 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: and like, so we wanted a place where we can 603 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 2: try the dumbest stuff that was that we weren't doing 604 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,479 Speaker 2: on tour or weren't doing anywhere else. And so we 605 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 2: came up with the show and we just wanted to 606 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:37,360 Speaker 2: like have it be low stakes, like you could just 607 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 2: play yeah. And what ended up happening is happening is 608 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 2: because we went in with that energy. Everyone we got 609 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: and booked had fun and like, oh the comedians that 610 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 2: came through were so wonderful and so talented, and the 611 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: audience was like wonderfully loyal and like they'd come back 612 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 2: every week and it was just really lovely to you know, 613 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: have I've done shows for ten years and I've had 614 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 2: two people in the audience, you know, and I've had 615 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 2: nobody come and I've had to cancel them, and like 616 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 2: to have a regular show where you didn't have to 617 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: like just worry about everything. Cause and our producer, Lauren Mandel, 618 00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 2: one of the best producers in now Hollywood was New York. 619 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 2: She made everything so easy. She booked the best talent 620 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 2: she would so everything felt wonderful in that show. And 621 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 2: I was very proud of that because we all just 622 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 2: had the same matching energy of like let's please have fun. 623 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: Ah, that would have been such a fun place to 624 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: like really cut your teeth and be like I was 625 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: gonna try this dumb idea. 626 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,239 Speaker 2: Yeah. There were so many times where we did not 627 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 2: get a laugh, and then we'd be like that sucked, right, 628 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: and everyone would die laughing because we were like, yeah, 629 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 2: we were trying something new. 630 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: But do you know what I noticed about you that 631 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: I hadn't noticed about Like the first time we put 632 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: our scene up, you were like, oh, I didn't I 633 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: expected that to get a laugh and it didn't get 634 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: a laugh. There your brain is attuned to that. Mine 635 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: is not like I was like, oh, I'm happy with 636 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 1: a giggle mite, like I had no idea what he said. 637 00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 1: Versus the second time we went up, it was like 638 00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:03,160 Speaker 1: you would get there were mega laughs we got way through, 639 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: but I forget that. Your brain would be so like 640 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: almost like fine for the last. 641 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: Which is like in acting is something I need to 642 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 2: like go of. But the comedian to me is like, 643 00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 2: why didn't I get the laugh? Why was my timing off? 644 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,680 Speaker 2: What did I do wrong? 645 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,960 Speaker 1: Like wow? 646 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 2: Because it's like it is mathematical. It is like if 647 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 2: you get the timing right, if you land the land 648 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 2: of Puntraline, you're going to get the joke. And if 649 00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 2: you don't get the joke, well you didn't set it 650 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: up right, Like you didn't, you know. 651 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: They say that's what Ozzie's are week with us saying 652 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: an Australian actor is usually often better at drama, and 653 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 1: like that's what I was saying to you. I've had 654 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 1: zero comedic training because we don't understand the text. Have 655 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: comunic training available, not really like sometimes people will come 656 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: and run improv workshop, sure, and then there's like little 657 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: open mic nights where you can do things, but as 658 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: far as like deep diving, there is. 659 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 2: None that I'm I'm learning more about this Australian like 660 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: and I work ethic and acting style, and I feel 661 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: like one thing that Americans are good at, like Americans 662 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: aren't as good at the work as like Australians seem 663 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 2: to be, you know, like the conservatory sort of style 664 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: you're talking about. But I feel like at least comedians 665 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: in America are better at messing up and fucking up, yeah, 666 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: whereas like it feels like Australians it's like you kind 667 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 2: of got if you're doing it like you do it seriously, 668 00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 2: where it's like I the reason I think I've gotten 669 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 2: you better over the years is because I fucked up 670 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: a thousand times. 671 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you'll very comfort probably letting go. 672 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god. And I also feel better when I 673 00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 2: mess up because then I'm going to get the feedback 674 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: that's going to clarify what I was doing. 675 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,600 Speaker 1: Oh that's great, that's a great skill set to have, 676 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: ye hold on too, tired. 677 00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 2: Took years to get you know, it took years of 678 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: messing up and then going home berating myself being. 679 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I did that for all of my Australian study, 680 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 1: and I don't think I've done it here, even when 681 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: I like maybe something the shift was it took. It 682 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: was so hard to get here, and I think when 683 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: you know you've worked so hard to get here, you're like, 684 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna run it over and some stuff's going 685 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:03,320 Speaker 1: to stick and some stuff it isn't, and that's okay. 686 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah. 687 00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: Total, I think the stakes are different for me now, 688 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,719 Speaker 1: like in Australia because there are less schools, less places, 689 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: less like it feels like there's less available to you, 690 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 1: whereas here you're like Okay, I'm here to learn. That's 691 00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: why I'm here. I'm here it up my skill sets. 692 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: So in order to learn up your skill set, you're 693 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: gonna have to fall down a few times. Right. 694 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 2: That's how I feel right now in acting class, because 695 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 2: it's like I'm confident in my comedy, like I always 696 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 2: have stuff to learn, but I'm confident as a comedian. 697 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 2: But as far as an actor, I'm like, you know 698 00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 2: what I mean, Oh yeah, it scary, very scary. 699 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: It's gonna be so scary not having you as my 700 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: scene Alreadymore so, I saw that you've done comedy festivals, 701 00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: You've been on Comedy Central, Funny or Die riot La Festival. 702 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: Has there been any moment like moments that really stick 703 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 1: out as like a highlight because you've done so much. 704 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 2: That's a nice reminder, because you know, I get get 705 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,319 Speaker 2: in the mode of like, well, I got to do more. 706 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,000 Speaker 2: You know, we've got our head down and you know 707 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 2: what's enough, which is like, you know, the great journey 708 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,480 Speaker 2: of life is realizing that like you are enough and enough, 709 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 2: everything's enough. But I think doing riot La was like 710 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 2: the first festival I booked and I got to like 711 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 2: fly and like I have my set and like and 712 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,720 Speaker 2: like stay in near BnB and feel like a real comic, 713 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, and that was twenty sixteen. 714 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 1: Where was that? 715 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 2: That was here downtown? 716 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 1: Cool? 717 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was in La downtown and so and I 718 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 2: got to, you know, just feel like I was a 719 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 2: road comic and the first time and you know, like 720 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 2: and like have other comics in La see me, And 721 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 2: that felt that felt like a big deal. But yeah, 722 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think fifty to fifty felt like 723 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 2: the biggest deal because ultimately, like I've taken this weird 724 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 2: road through comedy, but I love acting the most and 725 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 2: always have. So it's like kind of like my secrets out, 726 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 2: like I love to act. Oh I got to act, 727 00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It felt very much like 728 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: that where it's like that was the moment of like, oh, 729 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 2: it's possible you could actually do this and like go 730 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,840 Speaker 2: to Germany with like that was like huge. It felt 731 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:08,600 Speaker 2: very cool to me. 732 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: I have to ask about Rough Night, the movie with 733 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 1: Star Joe. Yeah, you're in the trailer. 734 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,280 Speaker 2: That was a cool moment. 735 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 1: It looks like you're seeing as you walk into a 736 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 1: bedroom and try to pay on the floors exactly. 737 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:23,839 Speaker 2: Oh, that's exactly my scene and that's it. 738 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 1: That's the whole scene still though, like, so can you 739 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: take me through like audition process, how long you were 740 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,560 Speaker 1: shooting for? How did it all go? Sure? 741 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: So it was really funny because my dear friend Joel was, 742 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: you know, friends with genevievan Nilo, who is a producer 743 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 2: and comedian. She's wonderful and her sister directed the movie. 744 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: Her Ben Paul Down's Lucia Anilo, you know, did the movie. 745 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 2: They did broad City, and they also did rough Night. 746 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: And Hang On. The cast is incredible of Rough Night, It's. 747 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: Like God, it's Alana Glazer, Zoe Kravitz, Jillian Bell, Kate 748 00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:04,320 Speaker 2: mcm McKinnon, Scar Joe. Yeah, it's now Royalty unreal, absolutely unreal. 749 00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 2: And so they were doing reshoots on it, and so 750 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 2: Ry Bergman did the initial casting, who's incredible casting. Carlie 751 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 2: Famalot is like a friend of mine. She's also So 752 00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,879 Speaker 2: they did the initial casting, which is why I think 753 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 2: the whole film is incredible. 754 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: But this was a. 755 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 2: Reshoot and they needed someone who could do physical comedy, 756 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,120 Speaker 2: and so Joel was like, talk to mo and Genevieve 757 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: dm me on Instagram and she was like Harry Free 758 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 2: tomorrow and I was like, I can be, yeah, one 759 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:33,960 Speaker 2: hundred percent. She's like, do you want to be in 760 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 2: my sister's movie? And WAS like, yes, absolutely, And it 761 00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:43,319 Speaker 2: was overnight. It was crazy. It was like whirlwind and yeah, 762 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 2: I got picked up by a van the next day 763 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 2: when and like a premiered the next month. It wasn't 764 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 2: like one of those waiting periods, but also like on 765 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 2: set the best time in my life. Like I had 766 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,840 Speaker 2: to wait in the van with you know, four of 767 00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,920 Speaker 2: the women and they were kind, nice, engaged, wonderful, like 768 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 2: in no way what you'd imagine these Hollywood stars to be, 769 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 2: like asking me about my sister's engagement, like just like 770 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 2: really kind and generous people. And it was cool. It 771 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 2: was like a wonderful taste of you know, the reality 772 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: that I live and just you know what's possible. And 773 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 2: I got to be physically funny, which is one of 774 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:22,760 Speaker 2: my favorite things, stumbling into a room, taking my panties 775 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 2: down and starting to pretend to pee and like in 776 00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 2: front of these rock stars and they were so funny, 777 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 2: and it was really how many takes was that, Oh 778 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,879 Speaker 2: my gosh, it wasn't that many takes because I went 779 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,319 Speaker 2: I didn't market. I went full on when they were on, 780 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: the camera was on them, and so I was doing 781 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: those takes quite a bit, but maybe like ten all together. 782 00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 2: Oh wow, was it shut out here in New York 783 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 2: in like Queen's in a house? 784 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: Ah? So fun. 785 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was really cool. 786 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 1: It's amazing. You might then try Literally that's a big deal, right. 787 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,840 Speaker 2: So that, I would say was a special moment because 788 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,840 Speaker 2: I went to go see Wonder Woman at the U 789 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: Cinema and I was with my friends Matt Bowen and 790 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 2: Jel and We're all just sitting there and the rough 791 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 2: Night trailer came on. We all stood up and started 792 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 2: screaming in it, and that was a really cool, special moment. 793 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 1: I honestly, I'd done all my research of you all, 794 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 1: you know, in the last few days, and this morning 795 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm just going to reread her bio 796 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 1: and I got to the bottom of the wile I 797 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: was like, how the F did you miss this all? 798 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, I'm gonna just watch 799 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: the trailer and then I was like, I got sick. 800 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 3: That's my that's mye So it was such like far out, yeah, 801 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 3: and I got to take stock to work with those 802 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 3: people again, because like they do hacks now, the HBO show, 803 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 3: Lucia and Paul and like and Genevieves. 804 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 2: They're all like so talented and like funny people that like, 805 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: you know, there's certain things that you want to do 806 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 2: in your career and then there's just people you want 807 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,439 Speaker 2: to work with. Yeah, yeah, and like they're the type 808 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 2: of people yeah you want to work with. 809 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: So I feel like this is a hard question to 810 00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 1: answer because you've already I know we actually have talked 811 00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 1: about this, but and you've already achieved so much. But like, 812 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 1: what's the dream? What is like, mo, what does your 813 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: life look like two years from now, five years from now, 814 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: two years from now? 815 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 2: I mean, like dream, I would love to be, you know, 816 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,520 Speaker 2: a regular on a like a network sitcom or not 817 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 2: not sick network. No gosh, Like I'm like, what's HBO 818 00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: and like's not all like a stream? 819 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 1: I guess yeah, I prefer. 820 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,320 Speaker 2: That over network just because like, yeah, I think we 821 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:29,080 Speaker 2: can get more risks and do more things. But the 822 00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 2: dream would be, yeah, to be a regular on that. Otherwise, 823 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 2: you know, I write a lot, so get my stuff made. Yeah, 824 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: but like five years down the line I see myself 825 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 2: actively on television, working constantly and. 826 00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: Amy's this time and. 827 00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 2: Hundred like I like, and I say that, like, I 828 00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 2: can't wait to hear this back like ten years. If 829 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:49,760 Speaker 2: I don't have one, it's insane if I don't. 830 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 831 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 2: Like that's how I feel. I'm like, I'm like so ready. 832 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,359 Speaker 2: I feel like I have it in me. I can 833 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 2: do the work and it's possible, and I I just 834 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,160 Speaker 2: I want, I want to know. 835 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: It makes me so happy to hear you speak like 836 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: this because I think you're speaking from a sense of 837 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,439 Speaker 1: self belief, but in a very humble and honest way 838 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: to yourself. It's almost like you're honoring your calling as 839 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,359 Speaker 1: opposed to yeah, like this is like I don't when 840 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,919 Speaker 1: we talk about capital a actor and taking call aid 841 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: and stuff. This is the opposite. It's like your energy 842 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 1: is really honest. It is unapologetically who you are. And 843 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 1: I think as well, like I love that you're honest 844 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: about that. God, Like, I so love it, and I 845 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,040 Speaker 1: think it's so refreshing to hear and it inspires me. 846 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: So I really hope that people listening are like, yeah, I. 847 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,879 Speaker 2: Hope so too, because it's I've spent so long being 848 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 2: embarrassed by my own dreams, you know, and feeling ashamed 849 00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:50,160 Speaker 2: or humiliated to say I want those things. So it's 850 00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: kind of like there was this realization I had in 851 00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 2: the past couple of years, like why not say that, Well, 852 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 2: what's embarrassing about that? There's people that have that, Like 853 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,320 Speaker 2: you're in that industry. 854 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: You also have to believe in yourself to achieve any 855 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:03,680 Speaker 1: of this kind of stuff, big time. 856 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 2: Big time. 857 00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: Ah, I love this. I have to ask because I 858 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 1: know this is like a hallmark of who you are, 859 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:14,840 Speaker 1: But like, how much would you attribute what you've achieved 860 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: so far a work ethic? 861 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 2: Oh, my gosh, one hundred percent. Yeah, yeah, I think 862 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 2: there's plenty. I also think, like the people that I 863 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 2: meet in the community and the people that I get 864 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 2: to work with are so talented, and that's because I 865 00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 2: have the same work ethic. Like I think, I used 866 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 2: to play volleyball. I used to I played, you know, intensely, 867 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 2: and it was a former athlete, and I bring that 868 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,120 Speaker 2: energy to acting. It's like, you you gotta train, you 869 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 2: gotta put in practice, you gotta put in the hours 870 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 2: that people don't see. You gotta just do and you 871 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,080 Speaker 2: know with healthy balances. Sure, but I think it's one 872 00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,480 Speaker 2: hundred percent work ethic. 873 00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: And it's you play to win even in an acting scene, 874 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:07,759 Speaker 1: like you're always no matter what the characters objective is, 875 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: you're still playing to win that objective, no matter what. 876 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 2: And I'm learning that in a grounded way and like 877 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,600 Speaker 2: I think intuitively we you know, sense that, but in 878 00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:17,719 Speaker 2: a real active way through the Chebek technique. When she 879 00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:18,800 Speaker 2: was like, you play a win, I'm. 880 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 1: Like, oh, yeah, I guess, but we're doing life. 881 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, totally. 882 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,160 Speaker 1: Like every one of my acting teachers in Australia said, like, 883 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 1: a human won't actually do something unless it actually benefits them, 884 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: and people like I disagree. Smokers, drugs, DA DA, And 885 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 1: it's like, but in the moment, they believe that in 886 00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,359 Speaker 1: the moment that smoking's going to relieve stress, in the 887 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: moment that drug is going to be escape isn't. And 888 00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,359 Speaker 1: he's like, of course, long term, sure it's not, how 889 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,040 Speaker 1: better and mediately, but in the moment it betters the 890 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,759 Speaker 1: situation that they're in. And that's how human because. 891 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,439 Speaker 2: That's how they've believed it. To me, yeah, like that's 892 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 2: that's how they're wired. Course, I mean, yeah, I think 893 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,960 Speaker 2: of any interaction where like you, especially in this industry, 894 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 2: you're constantly meeting people that you have to like present 895 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,840 Speaker 2: yourself to. Yeah, it's like like me, like me, like me, 896 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 2: please like me. And even if you're an authentic person, 897 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 2: you're coming in with the energy of please like me, 898 00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:13,240 Speaker 2: and you're trying to present that and give a version 899 00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: of yourself that you feel that this person will like you. 900 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,640 Speaker 1: Remember in class when we were order seeing Evana, she said, 901 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 1: if people work with people, they have crushes on you, 902 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: and I like. 903 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,479 Speaker 2: Mad get people to have crush on me. Check. 904 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like when you go into a casting room 905 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: or audition, you've got to have that thing. 906 00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:35,200 Speaker 2: But because it reminded me to bring charm, you know 907 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 2: what I mean, Like it's like, oh, that's not like 908 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 2: a schmoozy thing to do. It's like, oh yeah, I'll 909 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 2: oh my god, if I have a crush on someone 910 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 2: like just like even if it's just like a handsomer, 911 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 2: beautiful person, I'm like, what can I do for you? 912 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? But I think there's a 913 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: thing about like you can bring charm and still be 914 00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: real and be authentic to yourself. And that's what I'm 915 00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: kind of getting at with you, Like You've got this 916 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,920 Speaker 1: awesome balance of like, hey, I've got a dream, I 917 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: believe in myself and I'm pretty done good human at 918 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: the same time. And that's like a really great like foundation, 919 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,440 Speaker 1: you know. Okay, final question, Oh we almost order it. 920 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: I know it's gone so fast, right, Okay, So final 921 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,760 Speaker 1: question is like, for anyone listening that is just starting 922 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 1: out or really wants to dip their toe into either 923 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: comedy or drama, but like, what advice would you give 924 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: someone that's like, oh, I'm a bit scared to take 925 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,680 Speaker 1: the plant drum, a bit scared to go to class, 926 00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: or like just on that teetering you know. 927 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 2: Gosh, big question. Sorry, No, it's interesting. I'm i because 928 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:39,239 Speaker 2: my initial reaction is like handle. I know it's just 929 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 2: not one to one. But if you're feeling those types 930 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 2: of ways, like deal with your mental shit is how 931 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:49,040 Speaker 2: I feel like, get a therapist, go like start meditation, 932 00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:53,240 Speaker 2: start these things that, like, because like I was working constantly, 933 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 2: but until I ground it and like really reflect it 934 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 2: and go on to therapy and was working on my shit, 935 00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:00,719 Speaker 2: I didn't believe in myself. Yeah, So it's like if 936 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,520 Speaker 2: you believe in yourself and you're like handling your emotional 937 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 2: and mental shit, then then the fear is going to 938 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,000 Speaker 2: be there, but you're not going to be stopped by it, 939 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,600 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It feels like that. I'm like, 940 00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,719 Speaker 2: you know what, take care of yourself. Take care of 941 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 2: if you're scared of this. If you're not doing it, 942 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,920 Speaker 2: go read a book on like mental health. If you 943 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,399 Speaker 2: can't get a therapist, you can't afford, like, find one, 944 00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 2: like again, go learn breathing techniques. Just do something for 945 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,760 Speaker 2: yourself that grounds you, because you're going to be aligned 946 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,440 Speaker 2: with yourself so much more, and the work is going 947 00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 2: to be it's going to feel less gargantuan and feel less, 948 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,200 Speaker 2: you know, inundating. 949 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,080 Speaker 1: And I think as well, like you've got to understand 950 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: your own psychology if you then want to go into 951 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 1: a career that is all about human behavior, in human 952 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,440 Speaker 1: psychology and what like motives and what drives us. Understanding 953 00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,240 Speaker 1: your own psychology is like a superpowered not just for acting. 954 00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:55,240 Speaker 1: I think in life, sure, in finding the right partner, 955 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: I think in any career, dream, in any aspirational thing 956 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:01,279 Speaker 1: that you want to achieve, if you can have an 957 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,839 Speaker 1: understanding of who you are and what your values are 958 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: through I'm very pro therapy as well. Four years maybe 959 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 1: even more into regular therapy. It's my non negotiable sure, 960 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,360 Speaker 1: and it just means that I can process stuff so 961 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 1: much quicker. 962 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:17,120 Speaker 2: Or and you're actively self reflecting, you know what I mean, 963 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:19,759 Speaker 2: Like you're you're making sure, like what is this? Is 964 00:47:19,800 --> 00:47:23,360 Speaker 2: this energy? Mine? Is it someone else's? You're you're considerate, 965 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 2: You're totally I don't know, self aware in a way 966 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,839 Speaker 2: that I think is powerful, especially as an actor. And 967 00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 2: I say this because the work feels different once you've 968 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 2: handled that, like and I've been doing the work from 969 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,080 Speaker 2: both sides of the sword, and it just feels easier. 970 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 2: And I like, I believe in myself. 971 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,280 Speaker 1: More well, I believe in you, my friend. 972 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,400 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, this is such. 973 00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: An honor and I cannot thank you enough for jumping on. 974 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,280 Speaker 2: Honor for me. This really is I feel so blessed 975 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,440 Speaker 2: to have, like, you know, Universe, whatever made a friend you. 976 00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:59,399 Speaker 1: So Mate's falon he did that. 977 00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:00,480 Speaker 2: Bye. 978 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always, 979 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,080 Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation 980 00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollaberry. This potty my word 981 00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love 982 00:48:22,840 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rate and comment and of 983 00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 1: course spread the love.