1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: How has twenty twenty four started for you so far? 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: Are you feeling excited, in control and wake up each 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: day energized and ready for the days ahead, or is 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: it more your experience the start of a new day 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: and new week is one of anxiety, worry and stress 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: about how you are going to get through it all. 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:19,439 Speaker 1: We know that there are plenty of listeners on the 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,760 Speaker 1: Nutrition Couch who are struggling with the daily grind, and 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 1: hence today we are ready to launch a very special 10 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: upcoming event which is going to take you all from 11 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: burnout to best self. 12 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:30,640 Speaker 2: Hi. 13 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,919 Speaker 1: I'm Susie Burrow and emilean Wood, and together we bring 14 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: you The Nutrition Couch, the weekly podcast that keeps you 15 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: up to date on everything you need to know in 16 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: the world of nutrition as well as burnout. Today we 17 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: are going to discuss the science behind the three pm slump, 18 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 1: but more importantly, what you can do to help manage 19 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: and prevent it. We're going to share our best learnings 20 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: from our clients and how to beat the bloat, and 21 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: our listener question is all about getting your Amiga threes 22 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: When you do not like or eat fish, so leanne 23 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: I think going back maybe three to four months now, 24 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: and actually I'm talking to a new mum who's got 25 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: two children who have got RSA. At the moment at home, 26 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: I think you're feeling pretty burnt out. 27 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. RSV is no joke and two small children, Oh 28 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: my goodness. 29 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: Poorly and she looked like she was going to cry 30 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: when she hopped on today, So I just have to 31 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: be very gentle. You might she might not say a 32 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: whole lot because she might cry. But certainly when we 33 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: ran an episode on Burnout, I think maybe towards the 34 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: end of last year, when everyone was feeling pretty tiredly 35 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: and we were sort of blown away by the feedback 36 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: from listeners about how it really resonated with them. You know, 37 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: I had people on Instagram message I mean to say 38 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 1: that our episode made them cry. And I certainly personally 39 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: last year had a very challenging year for a number 40 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: of reasons business wise and my family and I have 41 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: to be honest, I absolutely was burnt out and acknowledged that, 42 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: and luckily I do have some training in the area, 43 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: so I sort of was able to manage and sort 44 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: of push through. And certainly you were a big support 45 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: through that time, which was very tricky. But you know, 46 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 1: I work with women as you do day in day out, 47 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: and I have to be honest that I think it 48 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: is becoming increasingly common. And when we're talking about burnout, 49 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: of course, traditionally burnout has always been discussed in the 50 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: context of work. So in a corporate environment, companies may 51 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,799 Speaker 1: sort of reflect or take into account reports of employee burnout, 52 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: you know, particularly industries like law and finance, where people 53 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: might always be encouraged to do really long hours, and 54 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: it was always spoken about in that context, but in 55 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: more recent years it's been sort of coined a term 56 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: in relation to women because of the enormous juggle that 57 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: so many are doing, you know, working juggling full time work, children, 58 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: young children, and the mental load which we hear so 59 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: frequently about. And so we had run as part of 60 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: the Nutrition Couch Live events a couple of years ago 61 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: around the Eastern seaboard, and we sort of had been thinking, oh, 62 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: should we do something else, Should we do something for 63 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: International Women's Day, which is of course March seventh on 64 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: a Friday coming up this year, and we thought what 65 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: a better opportunity to come together and talk about this 66 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: issue that we believe is affecting so many of our 67 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: listeners and so many busy, overwhelmed women in general. 68 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And like you, I definitely experienced 69 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:15,919 Speaker 2: burnout last year. And I think, if I'm being entirely honest, Susie, 70 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: I've probably been burnt out pretty much at least once 71 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 2: a year since starting my business. And I think I'm 72 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 2: in here five of my business this year. Because how 73 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:25,920 Speaker 2: I built my own business up. I was working full 74 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: time in the hospital. Then I cut back to four days, 75 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: and I was doing you know, I was doing weekend work. 76 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 2: I was working every night I'd go to my nine 77 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 2: to five hospital job that i'd come home o't all 78 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: these Instagram dms. I was building up my social following, 79 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: I'd started a podcast. I was doing all of this 80 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 2: extra work every night, every weekend. And then I cut 81 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 2: down my hours at the hospital. Went to four days, 82 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 2: went to three days, went to two days, and sort 83 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 2: of continuously scaled up my business. And like any business 84 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 2: owners listening, it's not just a nine to five job. 85 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 2: You work weekends, you work nighttime. Someone dms you at 86 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 2: eleven pm at night where you're upfeeding your newborn baby, 87 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 2: and you just naturally replied because it's your business that 88 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 2: it should your other be being. You care about it 89 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 2: and you want to take care of people. Right, So 90 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 2: it's very easy to be burnt out as women because 91 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: we do all this struggle as business owners, people with 92 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 2: small children. 93 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: It's very easy. 94 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 2: And like you, I also have that knowledge where I've 95 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: been able to bring myself back from the brink of 96 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:16,680 Speaker 2: that and acknowledge it more and sort of even recognize 97 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 2: when it's starting to come up. And David seen it 98 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 2: in me very regularly. He's like, baby, I think you're 99 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: heading towards more burnout. You need to stop, step back, 100 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: say no, like learn to say no, we're not going 101 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 2: to do that. Just take some time off, take some rest, 102 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: that sort of thing. So it's easier for me to 103 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: recognize the science. But I do think as you know, 104 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 2: as mums, we both work full time, we both run 105 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 2: our own multiple businesses. Like it's really it's one of 106 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 2: those things where it's kind of hard to avoid. But 107 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,279 Speaker 2: at the same time, I also feel like we used 108 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 2: to wear it like a badge of honor. Like I 109 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: feel like in the last few years it has been 110 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,080 Speaker 2: talked about more and more where women are like, okay, 111 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 2: now it's not cool to be burnt out. It's not 112 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 2: a good thing. Whereas I very much remember when when 113 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 2: I first started, I was like, I want to run 114 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 2: my own business, I want to come out of the hospital, 115 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 2: I want to help more people online. It was more this, 116 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: it was like this badge of honor, Like it was 117 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 2: this hustle mentality, like, hustle, hard work, twenty four to seven, 118 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,919 Speaker 2: don't take a rest break. It's amazing you're working on 119 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:11,599 Speaker 2: the weekend. Congratulations, go you were so proud of you. 120 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,599 Speaker 2: Like I was getting pattered on the back twenty four 121 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: seven for working these ridiculously long hours, working every single day, 122 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,679 Speaker 2: working every night, and it was like this badge of honor. 123 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: So I think we're really starting to recognize that self 124 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 2: care element, particularly for busy women. That it's really nice 125 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 2: that it's something that we can recognize is happening. And 126 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: also there are a lot of things that we can 127 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: do to help it. But it's sort of it's not 128 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: worn as a badge of honor like it was well 129 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: in my experience a few years ago. Now it's very 130 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 2: much like, Okay, this is not good. We need to 131 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 2: do something about it. Because there's only so much you 132 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: can push and push and push before you end up 133 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: in a heap on the ground. And that's our goal 134 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:48,679 Speaker 2: is to really stop ourselves from getting to that point, 135 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: catch it earlier, implement some strategies and actually come back 136 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 2: from that. So in line with that, Susie, we have 137 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: some very exciting news to announce that we're going to 138 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 2: be doing a live webinar for Shation Women's Day and 139 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 2: all things energy and burnout. Do you want to tell 140 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 2: our listeners a little bit more about that. 141 00:06:05,560 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: Well, we know that so many of our listeners are 142 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: feeling overwhelmed, tired, and perhaps it's not that they don't 143 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: know what they should be doing when it comes to 144 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: eating well after listening to the Nutrition Couch, just looking 145 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: for those tips to take it to the next level. 146 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 1: So we're going to offer a live event that you 147 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: can stream from wherever you are around the world, either 148 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: or in Australia on Thursday, the seventh of March, and 149 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: we're going to cover topics like eating for energy, what 150 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: are the signs of burnout, how you can use your 151 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: diet to reinvigorate your energy levels, how can you take 152 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: back control of your diet, how can you stop self 153 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: sabotaging your attempts and basically all the steps you can 154 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: take to eat better, feel better, look better, perform better, 155 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: and get back to your best self. 156 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: Hontab A stents. It's all about fueling for your best 157 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: self and really helping you to achieve that health and 158 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: that balance that we all want in twenty twenty four. 159 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 2: So the tickets for the large room will be available 160 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: on our website, which is the nutritioncouch dot com, and 161 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 2: you will see them up there, and. 162 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: They will also be available for purchase after the event. 163 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: But if you want to get on board and ask 164 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: questions at that time, you can have it live or 165 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: you can have it later. All right, lead well, leading 166 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: on from a little bit of burnout to daily burnout 167 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: in the science of the three pm slump. Now, I 168 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: did tease that topic last week and got a bit 169 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: ahead of myself, but it gauged my interest as a 170 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: concept because I had a client recently who described me 171 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: needing to sleep after lunch and I just thought, that 172 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: is actually quite a common experience, and at times in 173 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,600 Speaker 1: my life I have had that level of fatiguehere after 174 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: I've eaten, I have needed to sleep. But there is 175 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: quite strong science behind why we do feel so fatigued 176 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: after lunch, and there's also some pretty clear nutritional guides 177 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: to suggest or make suggestions of how to avoid it. 178 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: But also there's some clinical indicators that you may need 179 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: some tests done, that there might be something more sinister 180 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: at play. So I thought it was a great topic 181 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: and I don't believe we have covered it before. So 182 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: the first thing to know is that circadian rhythm, which 183 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: is what the human body runs on the twenty for 184 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: hour body clock, which basically tells the body when to 185 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: release certain hormones, when to rebuild and restore muscles, when 186 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: to store fat versus burn energy. Basically, between the hours 187 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: of about one and four pm, there's quite a significant 188 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: reduction in circadian rhythm and a drop in body temperature. 189 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: And so you're really fighting physiology to think that you 190 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 1: won't have it, because it's actually quite normal to feel 191 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: quite fatigued and of course leanne. In Europe, this is 192 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: why they have a siesta. 193 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 2: No, I don't know why we don't do it here, 194 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 2: you know, so there's a. 195 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: Lot Now, obviously not all of us have the privilege 196 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: of having a siesta, but if you do have the 197 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: control over your day or you know, it's that hour 198 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: before you pick the kids up and you can have 199 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: a little nap here and there, and you have been. 200 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 3: Up working since five or six am. 201 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: There's a lot to be said for actually having a 202 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 1: breast and perhaps those European countries have just got it right. 203 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: We need to sleep, but certainly it's not unexpected. There's 204 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: not anything wrong with you. It's more the body naturally 205 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:51,560 Speaker 1: does sort of have a lull at that time. But 206 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: what is really important to know that what we have 207 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: for lunch and even breakfast has a very powerful effect 208 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 1: and it can actually make that feeling of extreme fatigue 209 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 1: far worse, because if, for example, you ride off coffee 210 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: all morning, which I know many of you do, maybe 211 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: grab quick breakfast on the goal if anything, and then 212 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: end up having a significant lunch meal of high carbohydrate food. 213 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: So you go to the food court and you grab 214 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: a massive sandwich, or you have sushi rolls or a 215 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: noodle dish, or a naked or a just regular burrito 216 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,920 Speaker 1: with a big fat wrap and loads of rice in it. 217 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: These are high carbohydrate meals. Lana doesn't mind me saying 218 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: big fat wrap is that offensive. 219 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: Large large wrap? You know? 220 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: Some of them are very large, Like they're big wraps 221 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: with loads of like beans and rice. 222 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 3: They're big. So those meals can. 223 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: Have like sixty eighty one hundred grams of carbohydrate in them. 224 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: So we're not fat shaving, we're not carb shaming. We're 225 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: just talking what's in them. 226 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 3: It's a lot. 227 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: You know, most women don't need much more than say 228 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: one hundred, one hundred and fifty grams of carbohydrate per day. 229 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: So what subsequently happens if you have that relatively high 230 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: proportion of carbohydrate in the day after not eating a 231 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,480 Speaker 1: whole lot, you get a hit of inchulin to take 232 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: that glucose from the blood and a really big drop. 233 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: And so that is why maybe an hour or two 234 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: after lunch you feel so very tired. So if you 235 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: are more prone to that real energy fluctuation throughout the day, 236 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: the best message for you is you need a protein 237 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: and salad based lunch with a little bit of carbohydrate. 238 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: We're not carb shamers, we're just saying be mindful that 239 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: if your goal is to regulate your energy levels, you 240 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:30,439 Speaker 1: want small, controlled amount of carbohydrate every few three four hours, 241 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: rather than not eating very much and then having this 242 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: really large meal at one or two, and I guarantee 243 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: you by three four you're going to be feeling pretty gross. 244 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: So really make sure protein chicken, breast, tuna, tofu, high 245 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: protein bread with lots of salad and veg and then 246 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: maybe add some at a marmaie or some sweet potato 247 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 1: or some corn, or rather than having the breeder with 248 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: the wrap and the rice and the corn and the beans, 249 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,719 Speaker 1: have it as a naked bowl where you're getting a 250 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: much more balanced amount and straight away, I guarantee you 251 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 1: your feelings of low energy at hour or two after 252 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: lunch will be much much better. But the other thing 253 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 1: I would say is if you routinely feel like sleeping 254 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 1: after a meal, to me, that is a much more 255 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 1: extreme experience. And I would be questioning if you've got 256 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: issues with blood glucose regulation, and if you were sort 257 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: of carrying abdominal weight not feeling amazing struggling to lose weight, 258 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: if that was a goal, I would probably request a 259 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,959 Speaker 1: glucose at insulin check because I would be worried that 260 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 1: you're hyperglycemic. And I had a very interesting client's blood 261 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 1: tests come back this last week and the doctor had 262 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: only checked glucose on a glucose tolerance test, and when 263 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: it came back, the levels were normal, but she was 264 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: hyperglycemic at the two hours, so her blood glucose dropped 265 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: to like two point nine, and to me, that's a 266 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 1: mark of insulin resistance. It shows that when she finally 267 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 1: does process the carbohydrate, she goes too low. And that's 268 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: what I'll give you that real extreme fatigue and even cravings. 269 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:56,959 Speaker 1: So I would be asking for some blood tests to 270 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: see what's going on, because if you're hyperglycemic from a 271 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:04,319 Speaker 1: nutrient difere genetics, balance of your nutrition or insulin resistance, 272 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: that will be making that experience of fatigue far far 273 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: worse and warrants interventions. So it can be very telling 274 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: what's going on with your bloods if you're having that 275 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,719 Speaker 1: really need to go and lay down and sleep now, lea. 276 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,120 Speaker 1: And we do see that with iron deficiency one hundred percent, 277 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 1: but it's much more commonly a sugar glucose regulation issue 278 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: if it's after meals a percent. 279 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 2: And I had another like more extreme case where it's 280 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 2: a lot rarer but the client had a rebound hypoglycemia, 281 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: so if she had too much carbohydrate in a meal, 282 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,800 Speaker 2: she would get that rebound effect. Whether her sugars would 283 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 2: go really low, and even at four or like three 284 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: point nine, like she was shaky, she felt nauseous, she 285 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 2: was sweating, like she knew that it was coming on. 286 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 2: So we just have to be really careful about the 287 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,280 Speaker 2: amount of carbohydrate we keep her in each meal. Make 288 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 2: sure we're pairing it with some veggies and protein, some 289 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 2: vatserf so she's not just having like you know, white 290 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: bread and peanut butter for lunch or something, or white 291 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: bread with jam, or a smoothie just with fruit and 292 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 2: milk in it. And that's it. To be really careful 293 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: about the pairings of meals. But you know what, Susie, 294 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: one of the worst things you can do with that 295 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 2: three pm sum because you have a ton of carbohydrate 296 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 2: at lunch, which most people do. They might have, you know, 297 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 2: a huge for kasha bread, you know, which is grilled 298 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 2: veggies on, which is great, But where's the protein, you know, 299 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: where's the healthy fat on that it's just a large 300 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: amount of quick digesting carbohydrate or like you said, multiple 301 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 2: sushi rolls of white rice and it's that compact white 302 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 2: rice like when you get a sushi roll. There's nothing 303 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 2: wrong with a sushi roll. But if you're gonna have 304 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 2: three or four at lunchtime, the compact white rice, that's 305 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: probably you're probably eating about two three cups of rice 306 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 2: all together, because sometime you compact it down into something 307 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 2: like a sushi roll. It is a large load of carbohydrate. 308 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: And now, if you're superactive, you're an athlete, you're exercising 309 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:43,200 Speaker 2: twice a day, sure it might be okay. But if 310 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 2: you're going to have a large amount of carbohydrate at lunch, 311 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 2: like Suzie said, your blood sugar levels shoot up, then 312 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 2: they come crashing back down again. And one of the 313 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 2: worst things you can do, and what people do is 314 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 2: then grab a quick digesting snack such as a chocolate 315 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 2: bar or some biscuits like a will pick me up 316 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 2: because their energy is so low, and all that does 317 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 2: is again shoot the blood sugar levels back up again 318 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 2: until they come crashing back down again. So the best 319 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 2: thing you can do if you notice you're having that 320 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 2: three pm slum and it's not a medical issue, like 321 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 2: it's not a blood sugar well, it's a blood sugar 322 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: regulation issue, but it's not because of insulin resistance or 323 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: diabetes or anything like that. It's more just because of 324 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: what I would call more poorly balanced meals. The worst 325 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 2: thing you can do is go and grab a chocolate bar, 326 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 2: or go and grab it, you know, an iced coffee 327 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 2: with added caramel syrup or something like that, because you're 328 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 2: just going to do the exact same thing, shoot them 329 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 2: back up again, and they're going to come crashing back 330 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: down again. So really try to aim for a balance 331 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 2: afternoon tea snack where you might be having a bit 332 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 2: of yogurt with some fruit and cheese seeds. You might 333 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 2: have some cheese and some whole grain crackers. You might 334 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 2: have some tuna and lettuce traps and a bit of fruit. 335 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 2: You might you know, you really want to pair the 336 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: carbohydrateed afternoon tea with some protein or with some healthy 337 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 2: fats as well. I've got a client, Susie, and she 338 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: loves dates, and so what we're getting her to do 339 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: is stuff some walnuts within the dates, so she's getting 340 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 2: a bit of healthy fats within the carbohydrate and also 341 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 2: some player based a mega freeze, which we're going to 342 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 2: lead into in a second. But we really trying to 343 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: want to avoid just having kind of carbohydrates in the 344 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 2: afternoon as well, which a lot of people do. They'll 345 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 2: just have fruit, or they'll snack on crackers even though 346 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: they might be healthy, like rice crackers that they think 347 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 2: are healthy. They're again getting a large load of carbohydrate, 348 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: which is just doing exactly what you've done at lunchtime, 349 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: shooting those sugars up and bringing them back down. To 350 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 2: be very careful with the choice around afternoon tea and 351 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 2: make sure there's some protein or some healthy fats loaded 352 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 2: into that snack as well. 353 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 1: And I guess the science of food sequencing is very 354 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: relevant here, so there's a growing amount of evidence to 355 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: show that eating in order, so having the high fiber 356 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: veggies and salad first, followed by protein, followed by good 357 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: fats like avocado or nuts and seeds, and then any 358 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: carbohydrate is part of a meal can help with glucose regulation, 359 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: particularly for those who are interested. We've done a whole 360 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: episode I think on food sequencing, so look that up. 361 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, it's growing evidence to show the benefits of 362 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: really focusing in on glucose control and will help to 363 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: prevent that extreme fatigue come late afternoon. 364 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:03,120 Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, And then onto another segment which we've 365 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 2: had a lot of I guess questions and interest about 366 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: Susie lately is the question of why am I so bloated? 367 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: So it is one of I guess the things that 368 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 2: a lot of ladies come to me for because my 369 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: coaching service includes fat loss and also that emotional eating 370 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 2: and also the digestive and the gut health as well. 371 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: So bloating is very, very, very common. It's thought that 372 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 2: one in ten Australians experience gut health symptoms and up 373 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: to sort of you know, twenty to thirty percent of 374 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 2: the population may have IBS or even that undiagnosed IBS 375 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: or that irritable bow or hypersensitive gut. So bloating is 376 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: something that is very normal, particularly around the time of 377 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 2: your month. For women, like when we get our cycles, 378 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 2: we generally tend to feel a lot more bloated due 379 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 2: to the big increase and decrease of hormone fluctuations. But 380 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 2: outside of that, you know when you're getting your cycle 381 00:16:47,760 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: or a few days leading into your period when you 382 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 2: might feel bloated. Common reasons I see in my clinics Susi, 383 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 2: or in my with my clients are over eating, so 384 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: the portions are too large. Obviously, if you're putting too 385 00:16:58,920 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 2: much food into your stuff. Think of your stomach like 386 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: a balloon. It will grow, and it will stretch, and it 387 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 2: can shrink back down over time. When you're overeating, your 388 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: portions are too large. You're far more likely to feel bloated. 389 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,160 Speaker 2: When you're not chewing your food properly. When you're rushing 390 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,400 Speaker 2: and you're eating too quickly, the first sign of digestion 391 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 2: begins in our mouth. We have enzymes within our saliva. 392 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: That is the first point of digestion in our body. 393 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 2: If you're bypassing that, if you're essentially just sculling your food, 394 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,119 Speaker 2: or you're eating on the run, or you're downing your 395 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:28,200 Speaker 2: lunch in five minutes before you're running off to your 396 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:31,120 Speaker 2: next meeting, you're eating too quickly. You're not chewing, you're 397 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: not activating those digestive enzymes from the saliva. The food's 398 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: hitting your stomach, it's like nowhere near as partially digested 399 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 2: as it should be, and then tummy has to work 400 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,159 Speaker 2: a lot harder. Therefore, the food sits there for longer, 401 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 2: and you may feel more bloated and extended. So slow down, 402 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 2: get your portions right, chew your food properly. Another big 403 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: common reason I see Susie is bloating because of constipation. 404 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: So when you're blocked up, your boughs aren't moving properly, 405 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,640 Speaker 2: it's very natural to again feel bloated and distended because 406 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: you haven't perhaps got enough fiber in your diet, there's 407 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 2: not enough bolt going through, there's not enough water going through. 408 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: Constipation is more common, particularly if you're trying to lose weight, 409 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: you get yourself in a bit of a calorie deficit. 410 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 2: Obviously you're eating a bit less, there's less bulk going through. 411 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: Potentially there might be less piper going through, and the 412 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: bows can tend to get a little bit more sluggish 413 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: or blocked up. So that's another reason I see with bloating, 414 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 2: a less common reason, but sometimes in again more sensitive 415 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 2: clients that I see, Susie is bloating because of carbonated drinks. 416 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 2: So whether that's soda water all the time, or diet coke, 417 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 2: or they're having a lot of, say I don't know, 418 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 2: some sort of like a pes sider or something like 419 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: carbonated types of drinks, whether it's alcoholic or non alcoholic. 420 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 2: And also drinking through a straw sometimes can suckle pull 421 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 2: more air in, which again if you're sucking in more air, 422 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 2: you can tend to get a little bit more bloated 423 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 2: as well, So drinking with a straw, chewing a lot 424 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 2: of gum, having a lot of carbonator drinks a bit rarer, 425 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: but in more sensitive people that can be a reason 426 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 2: for bloating. Wearing very tight clothing. Used to be someone 427 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 2: Susie who just rocked my Active War twenty four seven. 428 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: Like I'd get up, i'd go to the gym, I'd 429 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: come home, I'd have a shower, and I'd put on 430 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: more active were obviously clean active wear, but still, you know, 431 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 2: I'd wear my gym tights all around every day because 432 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 2: they're just so comfy. 433 00:19:12,200 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: And she looked hot, the honesty, and she was looking 434 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 3: high well. 435 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 2: Even after babies, and I didn't look so you know, 436 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: it wasn't love my body that much. Even after babies. 437 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 2: I'd have those you know, those compression types that you'd 438 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 2: pull on, like you take me three and a half 439 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,920 Speaker 2: hours to get them on one bloody leg, but they're 440 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 2: so hard to get on. But those really tight clothing 441 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,720 Speaker 2: that can also promote more feeling of being bloated. So 442 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 2: if you are at home, you're not in your tight 443 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,119 Speaker 2: work pants, if you do suffer from bloating, try just 444 00:19:37,160 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: putting on like a long, flowy dress or you know 445 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,880 Speaker 2: some pants with a drawstring that you can let them 446 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: out a little bit, because the more pressure you put 447 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 2: on your adominal areas sometimes the worst that bloating can be. 448 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 2: And then I've got two more reasons potentially, Susie, because 449 00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:52,399 Speaker 2: it's a very broad question, right. A lot of people 450 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 2: experience bloating, but it's not just due to one thing. 451 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 2: Often it's a large combination and a lot of things. 452 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: Another big one is, again for more sensitive people with IBS, 453 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 2: it's eating a lot of foods with those sugar alcohols 454 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: in them. So look for the oles ols on the 455 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: nutrition labels manatol sorbatolls, Xylo toll those sugar alcohols which 456 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 2: you'll find and a lot of you know, like sugar 457 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,200 Speaker 2: free type products, so they're lower calorie, they're marketed for healthier, 458 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 2: diet conscious people. A lot of those sugar alcohols for 459 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 2: sensitive people can cause quite a lot of bloating. And 460 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 2: the last one, Susie, would just be due to food intolerances. 461 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 2: Whether you've got you know, the type of IBS that's 462 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: more bloating predominant or you've just got some food intolerances 463 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: going on. Now, it needs to be very clear, susy. 464 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: There is no blood test that can diagnose a food intolerance. 465 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,719 Speaker 2: So if you are seeing a natural path or a 466 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 2: health professional or someone like that and they're saying to you, hey, 467 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 2: give me a couple of hundred dollars, or you've seen 468 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 2: some influencer online promoting food intolerance tests for you know, 469 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 2: blood tests for food intolerances, they do not work. There's 470 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:55,439 Speaker 2: no evidence for them. The only way, the gold standard 471 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: way we can diagnose a food intolerance is actually working 472 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 2: with a health profession or such as a dietician who's 473 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 2: trained in this area, to do what we call an 474 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 2: exclusion diet, where you might take out a couple of 475 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 2: suspected trigger foods, get yourself back to a baseline symptoms, 476 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 2: then reintroduce those foods one by one and see if 477 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: they actually elicit some symptoms for you. So there is 478 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,280 Speaker 2: no blood test for food intolerances. You can you know, 479 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 2: get some you know, breath tests for laptose intolerance and 480 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 2: some fructose intolerances and that sort of thing, but you're 481 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 2: not you know, I see sometimes a client's Susie, they've 482 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: seen a natural bath and they bring me the blood 483 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 2: test and it says, oh, I can't have capsicum and 484 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 2: corn and quinoir and rice, and there's like a list 485 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 2: of like forty seven foods they can't have. And I 486 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,399 Speaker 2: say to them, where did you get this done? And 487 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 2: they're like, oh, I got a blood food intolerance blood test. 488 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 2: And I say, well, you know what happens when you 489 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 2: eat capsicam? And they're like, oh, nothing. What happens when 490 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 2: you eat corn? Oh? Nothing. I love corn, but I 491 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: can't eat it anymore because the blood tests told me 492 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 2: I can't. So often those blood tests are based on 493 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 2: and I'm going to go too much into sciene Susie, 494 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: but they're not really evidence based, and we don't ever 495 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 2: encourage them as dietitians. We want to work one on 496 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 2: one with you to actually do more of an exclusion 497 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 2: type diet, because those blood tests can be very very inaccurate, 498 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,560 Speaker 2: can show up you know, multiple if not you know, 499 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: nearly one hundred foods that you quote unquote can't eat, 500 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 2: but a lot of them you actually tolerate really well. 501 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 2: So that's probably my last point I want to make 502 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 2: when it comes to bloating in food intolerance is that 503 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 2: it's a very it's a difficult area to manage because 504 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: there are so many things that can cause it, and 505 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 2: when it does come down to foods, it's generally not 506 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 2: one food, and it's generally about perhaps a cluster or 507 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,239 Speaker 2: group of foods that over time, if you, you know, 508 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 2: you take your tolerance for those foods above the threshold 509 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 2: that you can sort of safely eat at those foods, 510 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,359 Speaker 2: that's when you've got to develop symptoms. It's not you 511 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 2: know a lot of times cliants enemi. Sometimes I eat 512 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,199 Speaker 2: this and I'm fine, and other times I eat this 513 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 2: and I get all of these terrible symptoms. That's where 514 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 2: that threshold level comes into play. Where you need to 515 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 2: be eating you know, small or regularly, and it might 516 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 2: be on day two or day three that then you 517 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:54,479 Speaker 2: develop symptoms. But sometimes you eat it and then if 518 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 2: you don't eat it for another three or four days, 519 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 2: it might be okay and you get no symptoms. So 520 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: that's where the beauty of working with an expert in 521 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 2: this area can actually be really beneficial for a lot 522 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 2: of people. So if you've tried a lot of the 523 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: suggestions that I've mentioned today, reducing your portions, chewing your food, 524 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 2: probably making sure you're not constipated, reducing things like sugar, alcohols, 525 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 2: not chewing on gum twenty four seven, or drinking carbonated 526 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 2: drinks with a straw, doing a lot of those things, 527 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 2: and you steal feel like you've got this chronic bloating. 528 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: And remember, eating food is a very normal thing that 529 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,439 Speaker 2: humans do, so you see I included, and when we 530 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 2: eat food, because that stomach is a little bit like 531 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 2: a balloon and it stretches in crows. When we eat food, 532 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 2: even if it's a good size or a smaller sized meal, 533 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: you can have the feeling or sensation of food in 534 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: your tummy, which is not necessarily what we will call bloating. 535 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 2: But I have had some clients sous that say I 536 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: get bloated after every meal, and we really talked about it. 537 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 2: It's not bloating. It's just that feeling of the sensation 538 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: of food and their tummy where they say, well, my 539 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,120 Speaker 2: tummy isn't as flatter as when I woke up. That's 540 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,720 Speaker 2: not bloating. What we will call true bloating and distensions 541 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 2: where it generally tends to get progressively worse throughout the day, 542 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: then you have to kind of unbutton your jeans or 543 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 2: change clothes because they're so uncomfortable. If you eat a 544 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: meal and you have that sensation of food and your tummy, 545 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,600 Speaker 2: and your tummy is a little bit rounder, and then 546 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 2: in an hour or two that it goes down again. 547 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,240 Speaker 2: That's just the normal physiological pattern of when we eat 548 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: and we digest our food. That's very normal and everybody 549 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 2: experiences that. It's when that bloating kind of progressively gets 550 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 2: worse throughout the day, or you know, three or four 551 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 2: hours after a meal you're still feeling very bloated and 552 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:30,760 Speaker 2: very distended. That's where it would be more unnatural than natural. 553 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,360 Speaker 3: Put it that way. 554 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 2: So that's probably my good summary of why you may 555 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: be feeling bloated and a couple of things that we 556 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 2: can actually do to improve that very comprehensively. And why 557 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 2: are a digestive health specialist so very very intuious. Wow. 558 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 1: To wrap us up today, a question has actually come 559 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: up a couple of times to speak with my own clients, 560 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: is how do I make sure I'm getting enough a 561 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: Mega three fat if I don't eat fish? 562 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 3: So this was one that came from our instagram. 563 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 1: We love to get listener questions on there, so send 564 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: them off and go through them a few minutes before 565 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: about to record to pull something off. So the first 566 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: thing to know is that the molecule Amiga three is 567 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: in fish or oily fish specifically, so things like tuna, salmon, sardines, 568 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: is what we call DHA and epa. They're the longest 569 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: natural Amiga three fats and they're the ones that naturally 570 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: have a very powerful anti inflammatory effect. Now we sometimes 571 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: hear about the plant based amga threes, and they're a 572 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: slightly different molecular structure and they don't have sort of 573 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: the same direct impact that their long chain amega three 574 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 1: fats do, but they are still beneficial. So the first 575 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: question I would have is if I've got a client 576 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 1: who doesn't eat fish but is happy to take fish 577 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: oil capsules. That is the gold standard really because then 578 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: you can count the amount of DHA and EPA, and 579 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: I usually suggest people have about a gram per day 580 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: combined DHA, which is usually one to two concentrated fishial 581 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: supplements at night. So that would be my next best 582 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: recommend Actually, I'll say a client said to me, should 583 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: she eats tuned it? Even though she doesn't like it, 584 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: and I said, absolutely not. Don't ever eat anything you 585 00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: don't like like. There's other ways around it. For those 586 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: who would not tolerate fisherial capsules or perhaps prefer a 587 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: plant based diet, the next best type of plant based 588 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: A mega threes are in a handful of foods, including walnuts, 589 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 1: including limb seeds, which is why we love soying limb 590 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: seed based bread in soybeans where else land you. 591 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 3: Know a little bit of nuts like flax seeds. 592 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: Oh, flax seeds, yeah, so like in LSA mix in 593 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: flax seeds. 594 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 3: So I would then. 595 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: Usually suggest to someone to tick the box on the 596 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: sort of long chain or plant based version that is 597 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: more likely to convert or give the same similar effect 598 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: in the body as a longer chain OMEGA three would 599 00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:48,920 Speaker 1: be two serves of those fatter day. Chia is another one, 600 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,320 Speaker 1: of course, so that might be a serve of at 601 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: a marmae and a tablespoon of chia or flax, or 602 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: a handful of walnuts in the afternoon, plus soye lin 603 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: seed bread. So I would say, you know, two to 604 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: three serves of that rich plant based A mega three 605 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 1: would be a good a daily addition to the diet. 606 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: Then if you struggle with those foods, so you might 607 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: not like grainy bread, you might not like walnuts, whatever reason, well, 608 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: then you would perhaps say that kind of supplement. So 609 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,080 Speaker 1: a flaxeed oil supplement, for example, which is also very 610 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: good for dry eyes if you're going through perimenopause. 611 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 3: Would be your next best bet. 612 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,399 Speaker 1: So I would say two to three serves of the 613 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: plant based a Mega three a day, or one serve 614 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: of oily fish per days, a serve of salmon or sardines, 615 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,119 Speaker 1: or if you don't want to eat the fish, certainly 616 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: a fish oil supplement will do it. But they are 617 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: different molecules. You can sort of replicate the effect, but ultimately, 618 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: if you can and do like the fish, that will 619 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: always be your best natural source, always better than a 620 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: supplementary form because you get the synergistic effect of the 621 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: nutrients in that whole food. 622 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,440 Speaker 2: And I think it's that case where you know, a 623 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 2: lot of times people think, oh, plant based is better, 624 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: it's more natural. But in the case of Amiga three, 625 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 2: like you mentioned Susi, plant based is less superior than 626 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: the actual Amiga three content. So if you don't mind 627 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: eating animal based products, certainly an amga three supplement is 628 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 2: going to be far better than a plant based amga 629 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 2: three supplement from a nutritional and a conversion perspective, because 630 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 2: you have to convert the plant based form of amiga three, 631 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 2: which is ala back into the body, has to then 632 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,399 Speaker 2: reconvert that, and we don't know how much is lost 633 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,879 Speaker 2: within that conversion process, which is why you have to 634 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 2: have so much more plant based amega three then you 635 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: do actual, you know, animal based amega three. So if 636 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:34,359 Speaker 2: you're tolerated, if you're happy to have it, go the 637 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 2: animal based amgiathree like the fish oil, like the crillore. 638 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: But if you don't, then of course something like a 639 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: flaxeed oil as well, and a lot of them are 640 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 2: flavored these days anyway, because there's nothing worse than like 641 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: a bit of fish oil repenting on you, or you 642 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: know a bit of flaxeed or sort of coming back 643 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 2: up an hour later. So try to get something that 644 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: is flavored, like spearmint or like berry based or something 645 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: like that as well, because I do think that that's 646 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 2: a big barrier to a lot of people having these 647 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 2: amiga three supplements because of you know, just the tape 648 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 2: in the aftertaste that goes with that. There's very strong 649 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 2: research from a health and information perspective that amiga threes 650 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: are wonderful for our diet. So it is one of 651 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 2: those things where food first, always, but absolutely Susan and 652 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 2: I both recommend in our clinical practice supplements where appropriate 653 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: because the evidence is so strong for amiga threes. 654 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,000 Speaker 1: And if you find it repeats on you freeze them. 655 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: Try freezing them because then it dissolves further down the 656 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: digestive system and you're less lucky to have those terrible births. 657 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 3: So that's something you. 658 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:28,960 Speaker 1: Can try to all right. Well, that brings us to 659 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: the end of a Nutrition Couch for another Wednesday. 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