WEBVTT - In bed with Australia's highest paid escort - UNCUT WITH SAMANTHA X 

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Laura and I'm Brittany, and Happy Tuesday. Life is.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a good week to be alive.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a good week. Do you know what a

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<v Speaker 1>lot is happening? Melbourne? You're about to join us in

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<v Speaker 1>freedom And I honestly cannot tell you how friggin' happy

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<v Speaker 1>I am that New South Wales is out of lockdown.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Melbourne's about to be out of lockdown and join us.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that there were so many people on social

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<v Speaker 1>media this week who've just been celebrating that's happening on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>We have the Bachelorette starting on Wednesday, which also means, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we may or may not, but I think it's more

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<v Speaker 1>may undecided. No, no, no, we've decided made Jay is

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<v Speaker 1>making a comeback and we will be doing some bachelorette. Ah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, how long has Matt been standing at the door

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for that moment?

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<v Speaker 1>You just scared the absolute shoot out of me just then.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't brushed my teeth, so very conking me.

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<v Speaker 1>This is real close. We're sharing a microphone.

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<v Speaker 2>Matt lucky that none of the listeners can actually smell

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<v Speaker 2>your breath. But thanks for letting Australia know that you

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<v Speaker 2>haven't brush your teeth. Well, I'm more so worried about

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<v Speaker 2>Laura because we're sharing the one mike here. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>very excited to come back.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't wait.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be great. How long were you waiting at

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<v Speaker 2>the door for us to mention that so you could

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<v Speaker 2>burst in and have your moment. I've been there for

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<v Speaker 2>an hour and a half. My legs are cramping. I

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<v Speaker 2>had to go to the bathroom, but it was worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to wet my pants.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a puddle on the floor outside. Okay, so look

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<v Speaker 1>that is happening. That Chohan cut is coming on Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>Brit is out of quarantine and very soon we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>reunited in real life. It's just a good week, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like we're so close, but we're so fast. I

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<v Speaker 2>came out of quarantine last week. As you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>quarantined in Adelaide. Well actually maybe some of you don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but I quarantined in Adelaide and that was just because

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<v Speaker 2>that was the only flight I could get back. The

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<v Speaker 2>only place in Australia that would take me was Adelaide,

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<v Speaker 2>So I was like, wherever, I will go anywhere. But

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<v Speaker 2>what it means is because I was in Adelaide, which

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<v Speaker 2>isn't classified as a hotspot, I was able to fly

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<v Speaker 2>to Queensland and see my family. So if I went

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<v Speaker 2>back to New South Wales to see you immediately, Laura,

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<v Speaker 2>which I wanted to do, I wouldn't have been able

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<v Speaker 2>to see the fam. So I just like, I just

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<v Speaker 2>grabbed the opportunity why it was there, and I flew

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<v Speaker 2>straight up to see my sister Sherry, my brother Mitch.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen him in a year, so that was

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<v Speaker 2>quite nice. And I'll be back in just a few

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<v Speaker 2>days and then we'll be doing this face to face

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<v Speaker 2>after what feels like forever.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you could just sit in another room and we

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<v Speaker 1>can still record over zoom. I've gotten so used to

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<v Speaker 1>it now. Don't know what it's going to be like

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<v Speaker 1>to see you in real life and touch you. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>have like first date, Jitters.

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<v Speaker 2>We probably won't be we probably won't be able to talk.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna be like what do we do now? What

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<v Speaker 2>do we do in real life?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, also just on the whole, like you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>everything else feels like it's getting back to normal. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't tell you. Yesterday, Matt and I we went for

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<v Speaker 1>a walk down in Bondai and there were people outside

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<v Speaker 1>doing salsa, dancing on the promenade. There were people with

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<v Speaker 1>bongo drums. It was honestly just the happiest, the happiest

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<v Speaker 1>I have ever seen Bonda. Everyone was celebrating. But we

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<v Speaker 1>have still had to postpone the wedding because unfortunately with

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<v Speaker 1>the Queensland and the borders being shut, Matt's family, Matt's mum,

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<v Speaker 1>MAT's brothers and my dad, everybody is still in Queensland,

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<v Speaker 1>so we didn't want to still have the wedding in

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<v Speaker 1>the next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>When half your family can't come, the family can't be there.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's one thing I can't believe.

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<v Speaker 2>You were supposed to be married in a few weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>That is bonkers.

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<v Speaker 1>So for all you life, that's gonna let you in

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<v Speaker 1>on a little secret. We were supposed to be getting

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<v Speaker 1>married on the eleventh of November. And it's crazy because

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<v Speaker 1>now essentially we could get married, the wedding could go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead in exactly the way that we wanted it to,

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<v Speaker 1>except just our family wouldn't be there, so we've had

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<v Speaker 1>to post.

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<v Speaker 2>So not quite exactly the way you wanted to minor

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<v Speaker 2>technicality with half of the family missing. It sucks from

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<v Speaker 2>multiple reasons, like it sucks because you can't get married,

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<v Speaker 2>but it sucks because it was a really good date.

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<v Speaker 2>It was eleven eleven twenty one. Like Matt would never

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<v Speaker 2>have forgotten that.

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<v Speaker 1>He probably would still forget it. I mean, to be fair,

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<v Speaker 1>neither of us are very good with dates. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>a forte. I don't even know when our anniversary is.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you do, because it was on a national

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<v Speaker 2>TV show and we still managed to forget.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, now that we're talking about big news, there is

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<v Speaker 1>also some other really positive and massive news that has

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<v Speaker 1>happened in Australia, which Brittain I wanted to touch on today.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely more serious news, but it's something that I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know if you've listened to the podcast for

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<v Speaker 1>a while that speaking about domestic violence has been something

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<v Speaker 1>that's been a reoccurring theme on the podcast. It's something

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<v Speaker 1>that both Britta and I are really passionate about. We

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<v Speaker 1>did a really important episode with Jess Hill recently. If

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't listened to that, I'd recommend going back and

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<v Speaker 1>listening to it. But Australia as of today has just

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<v Speaker 1>brought out some huge changes, and that is that women

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<v Speaker 1>who are fleeing domestic violence and who have been subjected

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<v Speaker 1>to domestic violence in their household will be able and

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<v Speaker 1>eligible to get a five thousand dollar payout from the

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<v Speaker 1>government in order to help them to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>leave and set up a new life.

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<v Speaker 2>And we all know.

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<v Speaker 1>That one of the biggest barriers for women leaving toxic

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<v Speaker 1>and violent situations, especially in their family home, is that

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<v Speaker 1>so many of them have been financially restricted and this

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<v Speaker 1>will allow women to be able to make that next

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<v Speaker 1>step and to be able to leave a perpetrator. And honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I read this in the news today and I just

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<v Speaker 1>felt so happy that this has finally happened. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>a long time coming, but I wanted to share that

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<v Speaker 1>with you guys as well.

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<v Speaker 2>It is absolutely huge and like you just said, Laura,

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<v Speaker 2>we are so passionate about it, and I guess what

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<v Speaker 2>is happening is is becoming more spoken about so people

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<v Speaker 2>like podcasts like us Jess Hill, who is advocating for it.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like for a long time people didn't really

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<v Speaker 2>know what understand what was happening in relationships with domestic vials,

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<v Speaker 2>what women and children were going through. And I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like the more we're speaking about it, the more we're

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<v Speaker 2>making changes. Now this is a five thousand dollars one

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<v Speaker 2>off payment and it is actually part of a one

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<v Speaker 2>point one billion dollar women's safety package, so there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot more going on behind the scenes. Like I'm stoked

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<v Speaker 2>for it, but I guess my little worry is that

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<v Speaker 2>the five thousand dollars is broken into one thy five

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<v Speaker 2>hundred in cash, and then the remainder of that money

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<v Speaker 2>is things for food or payment for bonds and school fees,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to help them get back on their feet with

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<v Speaker 2>a house, like establish themselves, which is amazing, But my

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<v Speaker 2>worry is when a woman leaves a situation in domestic violence,

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<v Speaker 2>ninety percent of the time they leave with nothing but

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<v Speaker 2>the clothes on their back, a bag for their kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and n is it like a small bag. They just

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<v Speaker 2>leave they have nothing. So my worry is that as

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<v Speaker 2>amazing as this is, fifteen hundred dollars of the cash,

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<v Speaker 2>it's better than nothing, But we still have a long

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<v Speaker 2>way to go in how we can support these women.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're definitely moving in the right direction, but still

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<v Speaker 2>some things that worry me.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, Oh, I absolutely agree. I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>this is this isn't a solution, and this isn't going

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<v Speaker 1>to be here. Here's five thousand dollars. This will fix

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<v Speaker 1>the problem by any means. But I think it's like

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<v Speaker 1>having something, having some sort of security and financial security

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<v Speaker 1>to know that if you do leave with just the

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<v Speaker 1>clothes on your back, that there is some finances there

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<v Speaker 1>that's going to get you through the first week or

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<v Speaker 1>the second week. Just why you figure out your next move.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, this payment alone could be the difference with a

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<v Speaker 2>woman feeling like she can leave and she can't leave,

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<v Speaker 2>like this could be the decide.

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<v Speaker 1>And I guess the other part of this is that

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<v Speaker 1>it's so important to have services, it's so important to

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<v Speaker 1>have support at the back end of domestic violence, But

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<v Speaker 1>there also needs to be just as much money and

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<v Speaker 1>just as much focus being put onto prevention and how

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<v Speaker 1>do we educate young boys so that they're not continuing

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<v Speaker 1>this same pattern behavior. The more that we have conversations

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<v Speaker 1>about it, the more that people become aware of how

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<v Speaker 1>prolific it is how many women will experience this in

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<v Speaker 1>their lifetime, and so I mean, I guess it's just

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<v Speaker 1>another step in the right direction. But Britt, you also

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<v Speaker 1>have a recommendation for us for today's episode, and I

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<v Speaker 1>know that this ties in quite nicely.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it actually is, and this wasn't planned at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I was always coming in with this recommendation. But speaking

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<v Speaker 2>about how important it is for us to speak about

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<v Speaker 2>these issues more often, I cannot recommend the Netflix series

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<v Speaker 2>Made enough.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that a lot of you probably have watched

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<v Speaker 2>it already. I binge watched it when I was in quarantine.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe two days Max I watched it probably

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<v Speaker 2>in the day. I put some stories up on my

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram just saying how great the series was about halfway through,

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<v Speaker 2>and I had a lot of people riding back saying, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I've just started it. It's so amazing. I loved it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have since seen it trending. There are a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of publications and a lot of people talking about it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wanted to add myself into that mix. I

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<v Speaker 2>cannot recommend it enough. If you don't know what made

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<v Speaker 2>it is about. It is based on a true story

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<v Speaker 2>and it is just about this twenty three year old

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<v Speaker 2>girl in America. Her name is Alex and the whole

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<v Speaker 2>series is about her. She has a two year old

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<v Speaker 2>daughter and she's trying to escape an abusive relationship. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>the abusive relationship, it's emotional abuse and coercive control. There

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<v Speaker 2>are aspects of violence within it, but it's more about

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<v Speaker 2>him having really violent outbursts and punching holes in walls

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<v Speaker 2>and pushing her a little bit like that. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>about how the next step if she stayed in that

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<v Speaker 2>relationship would be very, very serious physical domestic violence. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>what it highlights is and the reason it is so

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<v Speaker 2>powerful is it shows her struggle to escape and how

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<v Speaker 2>fucking hard it is she leaves this relationship, and it

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<v Speaker 2>is almost It highlights the poverty system in America and

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<v Speaker 2>how hard it is for anybody to get back on

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<v Speaker 2>their feet and live in a safe environment. It's about

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<v Speaker 2>she goes around in circles trying to get payments for

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<v Speaker 2>benefits to help, which is why it's so important we

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this five thousand dollar payment. It's about her

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get a job, but jobs won't employ her

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<v Speaker 2>until she has a residential address. She's like, well, how

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<v Speaker 2>do I get a residential address without a job. It's

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<v Speaker 2>constantly highlighting. It has these little thing throughout it, where

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<v Speaker 2>like every time she spends money, which is like two

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<v Speaker 2>dollars on some petrol, she'll put like five dollars a

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<v Speaker 2>petrol in a car and a little bank balance comes up,

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<v Speaker 2>and it constantly shows how much money she has left,

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<v Speaker 2>and every single day she gets down to like the

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<v Speaker 2>twenty cents and she eventually gets a job as a

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<v Speaker 2>cleaner and a maid. And it just shows the insidious

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<v Speaker 2>nature of what happens in these relationships when you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to leave and how you try and get back on

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<v Speaker 2>your feet, and nobody is speaking about it. No, there

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<v Speaker 2>are no Netflix shows, no one has really coveted in

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<v Speaker 2>this aspect before, and it's honestly mind boggling, and I

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<v Speaker 2>do not understand how anyone in this situation is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to get back on their feet. And I honestly think everyone,

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<v Speaker 2>every man, every woman, needs to watch this show. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you can hear how passionate I am in my voice, Laura, like,

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<v Speaker 2>please watch it. You will just be blown away.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't seen it yet, and it has come recommended,

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<v Speaker 1>not just by you, but by every other media outlet

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<v Speaker 1>recently that I've kind of tuned into. But one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that I saw, and Britt correct me if

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<v Speaker 1>this is wrong, but kind of nothing big happens, as

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<v Speaker 1>in like there's no prolific or cataclysmic storyline. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>exploring the very normal. And when I say normal, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean like the everyday struggles that someone who's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>leave a coercive control relationship or a domestic violent situation.

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<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes when we think about domestic violent, we

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<v Speaker 1>think it has to be violent, like actual physical violence.

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<v Speaker 1>But from the conversations we had with Jess Hill, from

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<v Speaker 1>the conversations that we've had with doctor Angela Ja, that's

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<v Speaker 1>not where it starts. It's this small it's verbal abuse,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the small put downs, It's the toxicity, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>how it grows. And I think that the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>this TV show has been created around the start of

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<v Speaker 1>what that can look like and not necessarily on the

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<v Speaker 1>big cataclysmic events that kind of can evolve from a

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<v Speaker 1>toxic relationship adds a lot of power and adds a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of weight for women who are in situations where

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<v Speaker 1>they sit there and they go I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>this is considered domestic violence. I don't know if what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm being subjected to or what I'm experiencing is actually DV,

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<v Speaker 1>or whether I can make an excuse for it, or

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<v Speaker 1>whether he's just very hyper emotional or he sometimes has

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<v Speaker 1>outbursts but he's never actually hit me. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a real gray area there for a lot of people,

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<v Speaker 1>and seeing it reflected back on a Netflix series makes

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<v Speaker 1>that gray area and that ambiguity a lot less and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more black.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And what it does is and this is why

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<v Speaker 2>it's so powerful. Like you just said, you're right, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>big happens in terms of there's nothing explosive in every episode.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is just a looking to somebody's reality, the

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<v Speaker 2>day to day struggles. And even though I'm saying nothing

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<v Speaker 2>big is happening, you're still hooked. It's still very gripping,

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<v Speaker 2>it's still very raw. But what I loved the most is,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm going to talk about it. This isn't a spoiler,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm going to talk about some things. But what

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<v Speaker 2>I love the most is it really highlights what goes

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<v Speaker 2>on in these relationships in terms of women. Going back

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<v Speaker 2>to domestic violence, relationships because we all know it takes

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<v Speaker 2>well maybe we don't all know, but it does take

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<v Speaker 2>women up to seven times to leave a relationship for

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<v Speaker 2>good an abusive relationship. That's how many times that they

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<v Speaker 2>will go back, five to seven times, which is huge.

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<v Speaker 2>So it highlights that and it highlights how the justice

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<v Speaker 2>system still is still a little bit more skewed to

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<v Speaker 2>the men, and how hard it is to prove your

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<v Speaker 2>domestic violence. So she didn't know that she had to

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<v Speaker 2>go straight and file a police report. She thought she

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<v Speaker 2>could leave straight away and get to safety. But ultimately

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<v Speaker 2>they were saying, well, you know, did anyone see this happen?

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<v Speaker 2>And she was like, well, no, it was at home.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you file a police report? Well no, because I

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<v Speaker 2>run straight to a shelter. I didn't. I was scared.

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<v Speaker 2>And because of that, the law leant more towards the

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<v Speaker 2>male in this situation. And these are things that I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>we're up in arms about it, but this is happening

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<v Speaker 2>to women every single day, and I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of the world doesn't know what women are facing every

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<v Speaker 2>single day when they try and leave these situations.

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<v Speaker 1>Platforming is on a world wide streamer also helps to

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<v Speaker 1>debunk the stigma and the unnecessary rhetoric around like why

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<v Speaker 1>didn't you she just leave? You know? And I think

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<v Speaker 1>that that's what we know is that that's a constant

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<v Speaker 1>conversation and a constant question that gets asked is like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if it was so bad, why didn't you just leave?

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<v Speaker 1>And there's so many reasons as to why someone doesn't leave.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I haven't seen the series yet, Britt, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for bringing You're gonna go watch it now, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go watch it. Thank you for bringing the recommendation. Also, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>if you've been watching it, slide into our DMS if

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<v Speaker 1>you have any thoughts feelings towards it as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd love some people to start chatting about it

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<v Speaker 2>on the discussion group too, because I've been talking about

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<v Speaker 2>it with people in my DMS singly, but I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to see a thread of it, so maybe we can

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<v Speaker 2>start something in the discussion group. Okay, well, there were

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<v Speaker 2>some big issues that we got out of the way early.

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<v Speaker 2>But let's tell you about what today's episode actually is about. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>today's episode, we are speaking to a woman named Samantha X.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you guys have heard the name of Samantha X.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe you know who she is, maybe you don't. Samantha

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<v Speaker 2>X is one of Australia's well actually, she is Australia's

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<v Speaker 2>top paid and most well known escort. She came out

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<v Speaker 2>publicly as an escort probably ten years ago, now quite

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<v Speaker 2>a long time ago. She was a journalist. She's a

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<v Speaker 2>very intelligent woman. She's written two best selling books. She

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<v Speaker 2>was incredible to talk about. We had a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>requests to actually get her on, or someone in this

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<v Speaker 2>sex working space on now. It is a space that

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<v Speaker 2>Laura and I we don't know a lot about. We've

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<v Speaker 2>obviously never worked in the industry. I've never known anyone

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<v Speaker 2>to work in the industry, but it is a very

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<v Speaker 2>very popular industry and we were really in about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So we thought what better way to learn about it

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<v Speaker 2>than to get somebody on that has lived it for

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<v Speaker 2>a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>So Samantha X being Australia's most high paid escort. I

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<v Speaker 1>think the thing I loved about this conversation is the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that we all, and I think all of us,

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<v Speaker 1>regardless of whether we're conscious of it or not, we

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<v Speaker 1>all have a perception around what sex work is. We all,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think it's very stigmatized. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>we can have some very negative thoughts around why people

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<v Speaker 1>get into working in the industry, what the industry actually is,

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<v Speaker 1>and speaking to her, I even found that some of

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<v Speaker 1>my beliefs, some of the things that I thought about it,

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<v Speaker 1>which had been formed without any real information or knowledge,

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<v Speaker 1>were being challenged. One of those beliefs is that, you know, Samantha,

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<v Speaker 1>this is an occupation that she has chosen wholeheartedly, and

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<v Speaker 1>she also fucking loves it. There's no ambiguity around how

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<v Speaker 1>she feels about working in the sex industry. She loves

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<v Speaker 1>being an escort. And I guess one of the parts

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<v Speaker 1>of this is that she talks about how there is

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<v Speaker 1>this preconceived idea that everybody who works in the sex

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<v Speaker 1>industry works in the sex industry because they are dependent

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<v Speaker 1>on drugs or they need money, they're in a dire

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<v Speaker 1>place of destitute in their lives, Whereas Samantha X comes

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<v Speaker 1>into this conversation saying that there is a dark side.

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<v Speaker 1>There absolutely is a dark side to the sex industry,

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<v Speaker 1>but there also is a side where so many women,

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<v Speaker 1>especially in today's society, are choosing to get into sex

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<v Speaker 1>work because it's empowering for them, it's liberating for them,

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<v Speaker 1>and it makes them a hell of a lot of money. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation in no way is us advocating for you

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<v Speaker 1>guys to go and get into sex work. This is

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<v Speaker 1>more so just a really honest and interesting conversation with

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<v Speaker 1>someone who works in the industry that majority of us

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<v Speaker 1>don't know anything about. And I think if we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to make our minds up about something, and we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have ideas about our beliefs around something, it's really

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<v Speaker 1>important to be educated on those ideas and beliefs as

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<v Speaker 1>well and speak to someone who maybe sits outside of

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<v Speaker 1>your normal contacts of conversation that you would normally have.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know, for me, I've never spoken to somebody

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<v Speaker 1>who is a sex worker and who also speaks about

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<v Speaker 1>it in a way that they absolutely love it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I found this a really eye opening and also a

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<v Speaker 1>very fun conversation. Sex work is still such a stigmatized conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think for so many people who work in

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<v Speaker 1>the industry there is still feelings of like, oh, why

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<v Speaker 1>why would you want to do that? Why would you

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<v Speaker 1>choose that for a living? But I do also see

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<v Speaker 1>that your sexuality is having a real moment in the

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<v Speaker 1>media at the moment, especially female sexuality and female empowerment

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<v Speaker 1>and also conversations around only fans and so many women

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<v Speaker 1>are choosing to move into this industry from their own volition.

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<v Speaker 1>So I hope you guys enjoyed the episode. And before

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<v Speaker 1>we get into the chat with Samanth X, we have

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<v Speaker 1>our favorite part of every episode and that is accidentally

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<v Speaker 1>I'm filtered and awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>We really need to plan that more accidentally unfiltered in

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<v Speaker 2>the new Confessionals. We love this, We absolutely love you

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<v Speaker 2>guys have been writing in the funniest shit, but Laura

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<v Speaker 2>is gonna kick it off this week with an accidentally

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<v Speaker 2>I'm filtered.

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<v Speaker 1>I am just so happy that two years on, we

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<v Speaker 1>are still getting so many cooked things that happen, and

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<v Speaker 1>that as they happen to you, you think I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>write that end to the life on cut Girls, if

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<v Speaker 1>you have had an embarrassing thing happen to you and

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<v Speaker 1>you've been holding onto it for the past like year

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<v Speaker 1>or however long you've been listening to the podcast thinking

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<v Speaker 1>one day I'm going to write it in. Let this

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<v Speaker 1>be your calling card. Today is that day? Please write

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<v Speaker 1>in your accidentally unfiltered But anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually have so many people recently that have written

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<v Speaker 2>in saying like, Okay, I've been sitting on this for

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<v Speaker 2>two years, and my sister's been trying to make me

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<v Speaker 2>tell you every week for two years. I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm ready.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I literally have that one screenshot and save, the

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<v Speaker 1>one that you're talking about right now. I have that

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<v Speaker 1>screenshot and save.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's gonna be people that are like, I'm on

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<v Speaker 2>the side of the road doing the Pooh now. But

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like I should tell you immediately in the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wish that lesson than we're about poohs. But

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<v Speaker 1>fucking hell, there's so many poohs.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's the.

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<v Speaker 1>Funniest one, all right, this is definitely non Pooh related.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was twenty one, I worked at a pub

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<v Speaker 1>in my hometown in Melbourne. I had had a massive

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<v Speaker 1>night at and I was so so hungover for the

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<v Speaker 1>lunch shift. I walked into the kitchen and they said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>take these to whatever table number it was. So I

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<v Speaker 1>walked over and there it is. I see Peter Hellier's

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<v Speaker 1>family and himself sitting there at the table. My brain

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<v Speaker 1>is so foggy at this point, and I go to

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<v Speaker 1>call out the meals. So I walk up to the table,

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<v Speaker 1>but instead of saying, Hi, here's your chicken, Parmesana, I say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>here's your chicken, Peter Hellier What I don't even realize

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<v Speaker 1>I've said it as I look around for someone to

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<v Speaker 1>clean the meal. Then all of a sudden, my stomach

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<v Speaker 1>drops as I realize what I've said. His whole family

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<v Speaker 1>is sitting there staring at me. He is looking at

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<v Speaker 1>me dead pan, while one other person is sitting there laughing. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I hid for the rest of the ship. I just

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<v Speaker 1>fucking love this. Hi, here's your Peter Hellie your chicken.

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<v Speaker 1>And also, like you would just kind of be offended

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. I think I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think would be funny if someone count to me and said, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>here's your chicken, Brittany Hockley, I think I would think

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<v Speaker 2>it was hilarious. Like, I can't believe anyone would be

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<v Speaker 2>that situation and not find that funny.

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<v Speaker 1>I once did the most embarrassing thing when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrities, and I think sometimes you can see a

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<v Speaker 1>celebrity in real life and not clock who they are,

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<v Speaker 1>because especially with social media these days, you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you're closer to them than what you really are.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for example, we share so much about and

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<v Speaker 1>this is not me saying we're celebrities. We're definitely not

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<v Speaker 1>like the fucking d grade celebrities of the world, but

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<v Speaker 1>we share so much of our personal lives on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast and on social media. And so when I run

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<v Speaker 1>into some of you who are listeners on the street,

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<v Speaker 1>so many of you were like, oh my god, and

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<v Speaker 1>then this happened, and this happened, And it can sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>be a bit disjointed because you know so much about

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<v Speaker 1>our lives and we don't know anything about your life,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I kind of feel like I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 1>catch up a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I once was walking through Paddington and I saw this

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<v Speaker 1>girl who I was like, oh, I'm pretty sure I

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<v Speaker 1>went to school with her. And she was looking at me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was looking at her and I was like, oh, hey, babe,

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<v Speaker 1>how are you going? And then I realized she was

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<v Speaker 1>Natalie and Broullia.

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<v Speaker 2>How was she like? Could baby?

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<v Speaker 1>She literally just looked at me like, why the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking to me? And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so rude. And then dawned on me and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know you. You are so famous, and I

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<v Speaker 1>just thought, oh, yeah, we went to school whatever. Good

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<v Speaker 1>to see the loser.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. Everything sort of happened to me, but not

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<v Speaker 2>sort of, I mean, like not the same. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to tell you it was not that long ago. Just

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<v Speaker 2>before I left for overseas, I was in the supermarketing

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<v Speaker 2>bond die. Now this happens to mill of time, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I would have seen a guy and I'll be like,

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<v Speaker 2>have I gone on a date with you? Or have

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<v Speaker 2>I just have you been inside? Have I just seen

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<v Speaker 2>you on? Not so much inside me because I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have that many one night stands, but like, have I

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<v Speaker 2>do I A how do I know you? Have I

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<v Speaker 2>met you somewhere in real life? Have we been on

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<v Speaker 2>a date, or have I just talked to you on

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<v Speaker 2>Instagram somewhere? Or have I just seen you on Tinder?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I always get them mixed up at just like

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<v Speaker 2>what level I've known them? So I was in the

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<v Speaker 2>supermarket and I saw this guy putting some stuff in

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<v Speaker 2>his groceries. I was like, fuck. We made eye contact,

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<v Speaker 2>we looked at each other, and I was like shit,

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<v Speaker 2>I know I know you, and I was like clocking

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<v Speaker 2>where from. So I just gave him like a little smile.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like a half flirty smile, just in case.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, just in case we have hooked up,

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<v Speaker 2>in case you like each other, It's okay, We're like

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<v Speaker 2>a half flirty smile. Went to the next aisle just

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<v Speaker 2>like walked past, and then I was racking my brain

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<v Speaker 2>saw him getting the next aisle smile again, and then

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<v Speaker 2>it hit me. It was Sam Worthington, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely have not matched you on Tinder. Definitely have not

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<v Speaker 2>hooked up with you. I think so many.

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<v Speaker 1>People would relate not the Sam Worthington put, but I

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<v Speaker 1>think so many people would relate to seeing a guy

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<v Speaker 1>or a girl in public and being like, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I know you, or oh that's the person

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<v Speaker 1>who i'd matched with on a dating app. And what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do if you've matched with someone on a

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<v Speaker 1>dating app and then you see them in real life?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you go and say hello?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. And it has happened to me

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<v Speaker 2>before where someone came up to me in another barn

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<v Speaker 2>BONDI and they're like, hey, we matched and I was

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<v Speaker 2>like hey, and he's like, then you go see me

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like cute.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, then you don't come and say hello.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, why did you do that? Then? Now

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<v Speaker 2>this is so awkward? And I was like, oh, I

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<v Speaker 2>probably I think I was seeing someone or I don't know, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>just don't do it. I think that like you can

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<v Speaker 2>have a smile at someone, but it is very awkward.

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<v Speaker 2>It's different. It depends if you've actually matched and met

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<v Speaker 2>up with them or spoke to them, or if you

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<v Speaker 2>just matched and never had that conversation online. Because I

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<v Speaker 2>think if you've never had a conversation, you can pretend

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<v Speaker 2>like you don't know each other.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you both know that you do know each other.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. You can feel it. You're like I

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<v Speaker 1>know that you know that we matched, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>that I know that we matched, but now we're not

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledging it, and it's weird and we're both sitting in

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<v Speaker 1>this cafe. Anyway, that's a thing to unpack on a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other episode. Bring me your confessionals for today.

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<v Speaker 2>I do just want to add that Sam Worthington he

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<v Speaker 2>had like grown a big beard, like there was a

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<v Speaker 2>really he had a hat on and he had a beard,

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<v Speaker 2>so there's like a reason I didn't quite recognize him.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I didn't know. I definitely didn't match for him,

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<v Speaker 2>and he has never been inside me. I just want

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<v Speaker 2>to put that disclaimer out to the media, like Daily Mail.

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<v Speaker 2>On that note, I've got a couple of heck confessions

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<v Speaker 2>for you. I'm gonna start with something cute. Okay, guys,

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<v Speaker 2>I called the NRMA because my car wouldn't start after

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<v Speaker 2>the poor guy came on the side of the road.

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<v Speaker 2>We tried everything. We discovered that the only reason it

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<v Speaker 2>didn't start because we didn't have it in park loll whoops.

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<v Speaker 2>Now the best part is my dad insisted to replace

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<v Speaker 2>the battery because he was worried there was something wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't bring myself to tell the truth, so my

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<v Speaker 2>car got a brand new battery that my dad paid

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<v Speaker 2>for for no reason.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh bless, I think it's I would have just told

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<v Speaker 4>my fucking dad, you just made your dad spend like

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<v Speaker 4>seven hundred dollars on a new car battery because you

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<v Speaker 4>didn't put your car in parks.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like that is very innocent. Also, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure I called NRMA once and then realized

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<v Speaker 1>I just had no petrol. So fine, We've all been there.

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<v Speaker 2>Happens the best of us. Okay, confessional. I went on

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<v Speaker 2>a first day to a boy's house. It was going

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<v Speaker 2>really well, and he was cooking us dinner. Then my

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<v Speaker 2>worst nightmare started. I started to need the loop. I

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<v Speaker 2>made an excuse that my contact lens was rubbing so

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<v Speaker 2>I could quickly go and do my pooh before dinner.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've done the pooh and I realized the toilet

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<v Speaker 2>was blocked with tissue. Oh my god, I wanted to cry.

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<v Speaker 2>So two glasses of wine down. I panicked. I picked

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<v Speaker 2>up the number two. I threw it out the two

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<v Speaker 2>story window. Next day, because I stayed over, my date

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<v Speaker 2>took his dog to the vet because he was so

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<v Speaker 2>worried at what his very small dog had done in

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<v Speaker 2>the garden. So he thought that his dog, his small dog,

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<v Speaker 2>had done a human size shit in the yard, so

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<v Speaker 2>we took him to the vet.

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<v Speaker 1>What I like about this, though, is not the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it was a human sized poo. It would have

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<v Speaker 1>been absolutely decimated by being thrown out of two story windows.

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<v Speaker 1>He just thought that dog, Oh man, that's awful, and

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<v Speaker 1>you also can never admit to that. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>there's always a Pooh story that gets told, but you

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<v Speaker 1>can never admit to being who throws the pool out

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<v Speaker 1>a two story window.

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<v Speaker 2>Who can never admit that you put your bare hand

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<v Speaker 2>in the toilet and pulled out your log and through

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<v Speaker 2>out the window at your boyfriend's house. Never you take

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<v Speaker 2>that to the grave or to life on cart.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna tell you, though, the amount of people who

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<v Speaker 1>have actually messaged us to tell us that they fish

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<v Speaker 1>their own pool out of a toilet bowl is wild.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know that some of you, like we've gotten feedback.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of you are like enough with the Pooh stories.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it.

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<v Speaker 1>We would also like it to be enough with the

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<v Speaker 1>Pooh stories, but they keep on coming in every week.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what we received when it comes to it, accidentally,

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<v Speaker 1>unfiltered or a confessional.

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<v Speaker 2>But I can't tell you ninety five percent of you

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<v Speaker 2>our stories from you guys, I poop stories. Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I have one more confessional that I'm gonna throw in

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<v Speaker 1>here because I just think it's so well. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not that innocent, but it's really funny. I lied

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<v Speaker 1>to my parents about my atar, and I photoshopped my certificate.

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<v Speaker 1>They then framed it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah you did, girl, you live your best life.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there's there's like a whole other layer

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<v Speaker 1>to this because your atar gets published in the newspaper.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens when your correct atar gets published?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you double down on the line?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you say, no, they accidentally misprinted my atar results

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<v Speaker 1>in the newspaper. I gave you my certificate.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously they just didn't look at that, nah, which is

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<v Speaker 2>fair like everyone might not if you just say, mom,

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<v Speaker 2>this is what I got, here's my certificate, Like, they're

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<v Speaker 2>not going to go search in the newspaper.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have the type of parents who were framing

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<v Speaker 1>your atar and putting it on the wall, I can

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<v Speaker 1>guarantee you that they are looking for that name in

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<v Speaker 1>a newspaper anyway. Guys, that is it from accidentally unfiltered

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<v Speaker 1>and confessionals. Let's get into the chat with Samantha X.

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<v Speaker 1>We hope you guys enjoy it as much as we

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed doing the interview.

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<v Speaker 2>Samantha X is Australia's highest paid and most well known escort.

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<v Speaker 2>She's an ex journalist turned author. She's got a few

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<v Speaker 2>best selling books, Hooked and Back on Track. Both books

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<v Speaker 2>are like a fly on the wall experience, revealing what

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually like to work in the sex industry. She

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<v Speaker 2>speaks very very openly about what working in this industry involves,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm talking the good, the bad, the hard, end

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<v Speaker 2>of the funny. And Samantha is now a sex coach

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<v Speaker 2>and owner of Samantha X after Dark. She's a very

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<v Speaker 2>very interesting woman and I am very intrigued about this life.

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<v Speaker 2>So Samantha, Welcome to Life on Kut. Thanks for coming today.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you. I always hear people saying that they're intrigued

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<v Speaker 3>by my story, and I always I always smile because

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<v Speaker 3>I think, no matter what, no matter how old my

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<v Speaker 3>story gets, people are so intrigued by the sex industry

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<v Speaker 3>and by the secrets that I have. And I because

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<v Speaker 3>I've been in it for a while now, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's so kitchen table for me now, so

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<v Speaker 3>I forget that people are still so interested in So

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<v Speaker 3>thank you for having me on.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think for so many people, like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the majority of us, there is so much taboo and mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>And before we unpack your life and how you got

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 1>into the industry, we ask everybody who comes on this

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<v Speaker 1>podcast one very the same question. It is accidentally unfiltered,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is you sharing with us your most embarrassing story. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that you got prepped on this a little

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.760
<v Speaker 1>bit late, but Samantha, do you have an embarrassing story

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<v Speaker 1>to share with us?

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<v Speaker 3>I've got so many embarrassing stories. The one that I

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<v Speaker 3>thought about that came to my mind first was when

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<v Speaker 3>I was quite new starting out of Samantha and the

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<v Speaker 3>client requested a really romantic night. We had dinner, champagne.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a beautiful hotel room full of candles, and

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<v Speaker 3>then you know, he was gorgeous, and I was really nervous,

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<v Speaker 3>and we sort of moved from the kitchen to the

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<v Speaker 3>living room to the bedroom and I could smell smoke,

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<v Speaker 3>and I hadn't realized that the sheets were on fire

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<v Speaker 3>because the sheets had caught fire from the candle. So

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<v Speaker 3>it was I was trying to be really professional and sexy.

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<v Speaker 3>That was a learning lesson for me. Big time. Big

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<v Speaker 3>Time put out a fire lost me a fortune because

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<v Speaker 3>there was smoke all the way up the wall. You

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<v Speaker 3>know how that smoke all the way up the walls,

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I had to obviously really apologize for him

0:29:25.800 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 3>burning his face and dick off. It was just it

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<v Speaker 3>was just a lesson. Another one I just want to say,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think a lot of women will wore cringe at.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this. A young man looked me once and then

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<v Speaker 3>when he turned up he looked at me. He went, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 3>you're too old.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, he did not. But the thing about being.

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<v Speaker 3>An escort or in the industry is that you learned

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<v Speaker 3>to toughen up pretty quickly. And you know, it's not personal,

0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 3>you know what, you know, someone may find me attractive

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 3>and another man may not. It's really you learn you

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<v Speaker 3>learned to tough en up pretty quick.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you cope with that? Like, I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>very first time that sort of happens and you are

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's it's kind of like you're on

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<v Speaker 1>this continual first date where you have to show up

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>and be like, Hi, I'm Samantha, Nice to meet you. Like,

0:30:07.200 --> 0:30:09.240
<v Speaker 1>how do you I don't know, how does your ego

0:30:09.280 --> 0:30:10.800
<v Speaker 1>and your self esteem reckon with that?

0:30:11.120 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 3>It can be incredibly hard. I mean I've tried dating

0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:15.400
<v Speaker 3>in the real world too, and I find that harder.

0:30:15.960 --> 0:30:18.440
<v Speaker 3>So with Samantha, I mean, obviously my real name is

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.800
<v Speaker 3>not Samantha, but with this character I've created, it's showtime.

0:30:21.880 --> 0:30:25.280
<v Speaker 3>I have got that barrier up. So whatever they say

0:30:25.320 --> 0:30:28.080
<v Speaker 3>to me Samantha doesn't really affect me as Amanda. So

0:30:28.320 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 3>it's different. If it was real life. I caught it

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:31.880
<v Speaker 3>real life, then I would find it really hard. But

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:36.120
<v Speaker 3>you know, it's a job, and what happens with a

0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 3>client or what a client says to me, I don't

0:30:37.760 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 3>bring home. I may write about it, but I don't

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 3>bring out.

0:30:40.000 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 2>So I want to get into that in a second.

0:30:41.560 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 2>About the Amanda verse Samantha in these I guess these

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 2>two lives you almost live. But I want to ask

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:48.800
<v Speaker 2>you something quickly that you just touched on. You just

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:51.880
<v Speaker 2>mentioned that this guy rocked up to the hotel one

0:30:51.920 --> 0:30:54.280
<v Speaker 2>day and said, oh no, you're too old. Do they

0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>know who you are and what you look like when

0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:59.480
<v Speaker 2>they book you? Like, why was he so surprised? I

0:30:59.480 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 2>thought he would book you knowing who and what you are.

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 3>That was a long time Yeah, that's a really good question.

0:31:03.480 --> 0:31:06.000
<v Speaker 3>That was a long time ago. That was before I

0:31:06.040 --> 0:31:09.680
<v Speaker 3>came out to Samantha. So my face wasn't shown, my

0:31:09.720 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 3>pictures weren't really identifiable. At all. Now it's a very

0:31:13.200 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 3>very different story when I first started out and the

0:31:16.280 --> 0:31:19.280
<v Speaker 3>person I am now completely different. And it doesn't even

0:31:19.280 --> 0:31:21.560
<v Speaker 3>get to that stage because clients men who know who

0:31:21.600 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 3>I am and they know what I look like. So

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:26.360
<v Speaker 3>the two samanthas I was very green then.

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:28.400
<v Speaker 2>So tell us a little bit about what life was like,

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:30.680
<v Speaker 2>just a background on you. Where did you grow up,

0:31:30.800 --> 0:31:33.200
<v Speaker 2>how did you get to the point that you're at

0:31:33.240 --> 0:31:36.360
<v Speaker 2>right now, and when did Amanda turn into Samantha?

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.760
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I grew up in Wimbledon in London. You know,

0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:41.920
<v Speaker 3>I had a very privileged upbringing, went to a private school,

0:31:41.960 --> 0:31:48.640
<v Speaker 3>all girls' school. Normal dysfunctional family. I mean, I'll be honest.

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:51.160
<v Speaker 3>There it was a you know, it was privileged. But

0:31:51.200 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean I know what families, all families are like,

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 3>because I hear enough about all families. But I moved.

0:31:56.640 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 3>I was a journalist. I always wants to be a journalist.

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.320
<v Speaker 3>And then when I moved to Australia in my mid twenties,

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.520
<v Speaker 3>I did so for many reasons, to escape really, and

0:32:04.640 --> 0:32:07.520
<v Speaker 3>so I was a journalist in Australia for many years,

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:10.200
<v Speaker 3>and then I always knew I wanted to be Samantha.

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 3>It just was in me, and I think a lot

0:32:12.280 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 3>of women in this industry also say the same thing.

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:18.000
<v Speaker 3>They just know. So after separating from my ex with

0:32:18.240 --> 0:32:20.880
<v Speaker 3>two young children, I decided it was time to be Samantha.

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:23.120
<v Speaker 3>And I had no idea what to do. I had

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 3>no one I knew in my world was in the

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 3>adult industry. But I did my research like a good

0:32:29.560 --> 0:32:32.800
<v Speaker 3>journalist and picked up the phone and worked for an establishment.

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:36.080
<v Speaker 3>And at the minute I started, I was hooked. I mean,

0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't mean to say hooked her hearts name my book,

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.760
<v Speaker 3>but I was. I was hooked. And it's an addictive industry.

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 3>It's very addictive. And I say to young girls only,

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:45.440
<v Speaker 3>especially young girls that come to me saying I want

0:32:45.440 --> 0:32:47.520
<v Speaker 3>to be ill, but you want to be an escort,

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 3>and you know, it's so glamorous. And I always warned them,

0:32:49.360 --> 0:32:51.840
<v Speaker 3>and I say no, because once you're in this industry,

0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.520
<v Speaker 3>it is impossible to leave, go and have your career,

0:32:54.560 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 3>go and have kids, if you want to have kids,

0:32:56.160 --> 0:32:58.000
<v Speaker 3>go and get married or whatever you want to do.

0:32:58.080 --> 0:33:01.880
<v Speaker 3>And then obviously everyone story is different. For me, at

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:04.880
<v Speaker 3>my age forty seven, what I do suits me in

0:33:04.920 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 3>my lifestyle now, but was I ready for it earlier?

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely not.

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:11.840
<v Speaker 1>What was the catalyst that happened or what was it

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 1>that made you want to shift from working in journalism

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 1>to working as an escort? And you know, you said

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>that it was something that you always felt like you

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>wanted to do. But what was the big thing or

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:22.160
<v Speaker 1>was there a big thing that made you go, I'm

0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 1>going to give this a try.

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 3>Look.

0:33:24.720 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yes, I was dating and that's enough. Yeah,

0:33:30.840 --> 0:33:31.680
<v Speaker 2>that was the catalysty.

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:33.800
<v Speaker 3>I was in my mid thirties, you know, and I

0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.160
<v Speaker 3>have this thing where I say I'm sick of men

0:33:36.200 --> 0:33:38.680
<v Speaker 3>wasting my time. They can pay for it. And money

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:41.360
<v Speaker 3>is also a factor that. I mean, it'd be naive

0:33:41.480 --> 0:33:44.480
<v Speaker 3>and irresponsible for me to say that money isn't great.

0:33:44.600 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 3>It comes and it goes very easily. I was working

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:49.720
<v Speaker 3>full time as a journalist and I was a single mother,

0:33:49.760 --> 0:33:52.200
<v Speaker 3>and I didn't take very kindly to some editor saying

0:33:52.200 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 3>you can't see your children this weekend, you have to work.

0:33:54.080 --> 0:33:56.240
<v Speaker 3>So I didn't see my children fifty to fifty anyway,

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 3>I only saw them. So I just thought, fuck this,

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:01.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to create that. I always wanted to create it,

0:34:01.480 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 3>And looking back, I think I can't believe how brave

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 3>I was. Now I wouldn't looking back, I think I

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.200
<v Speaker 3>can't believe half the stuff I've done. But at the

0:34:09.280 --> 0:34:12.600
<v Speaker 3>time it felt really right, and I really feel I

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:15.120
<v Speaker 3>was meant to live that life. Yeah, just an escalation

0:34:15.200 --> 0:34:19.760
<v Speaker 3>of a few bad dates. It wasn't one digital event,

0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 3>it was just the general Okay, I'm really sick of

0:34:22.840 --> 0:34:23.359
<v Speaker 3>dating now.

0:34:23.680 --> 0:34:25.680
<v Speaker 2>When you say that you knew that it was always

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:27.759
<v Speaker 2>in you and you knew it was always something that

0:34:27.800 --> 0:34:29.400
<v Speaker 2>you wanted to do, What do you mean by that.

0:34:29.440 --> 0:34:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Do you mean that like you just love sex so much,

0:34:31.800 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 2>or do you mean that you knew that one person

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.719
<v Speaker 2>wasn't necessarily for you when you liked that lifestyle, Like,

0:34:37.800 --> 0:34:39.719
<v Speaker 2>what was it that was burning inside of you? That

0:34:39.800 --> 0:34:42.319
<v Speaker 2>was like, because I feel like it's a very specific

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 2>industry to jump from journalism to that and to say

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I knew that this industry was always in me, especially

0:34:47.640 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 2>when you joined Like now we're doing podcasts like this,

0:34:50.880 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 2>we're talking openly about it. It's so much more accepted.

0:34:53.840 --> 0:34:56.279
<v Speaker 2>There was definitely a stigma in a taboo probably when

0:34:56.400 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 2>you joined the industry massively.

0:34:58.680 --> 0:35:01.200
<v Speaker 3>Now now sex workers have pot and I'm not the

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:02.960
<v Speaker 3>first one to write a book, and I won't be

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 3>the last. I guess it was a power thing and

0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 3>it still is. You know, when I date someone in

0:35:07.600 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 3>my real life, I sort of feel the scales are

0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:12.759
<v Speaker 3>a bit out of whack. But when I'm Samantha, I

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:14.600
<v Speaker 3>have the power, and I think that's a very hard

0:35:14.640 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 3>thing to lose. Once you've got that, it's almost like

0:35:17.160 --> 0:35:20.320
<v Speaker 3>a mask I can hide behind because the real me

0:35:20.480 --> 0:35:22.759
<v Speaker 3>is very different to Samantha. Couldn't be more different, and

0:35:22.800 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 3>I think people always quite surprised when they meet the

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:26.920
<v Speaker 3>real MEAE because I'm actually quite an introvert. And you know,

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 3>it's not about sex. Sex is sex, you know. I've

0:35:28.960 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 3>always said that. I always say to women, don't do

0:35:30.960 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 3>this job for the sex. It's more the power. I

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:35.640
<v Speaker 3>think that's what That's what drew me there and that's

0:35:35.680 --> 0:35:37.480
<v Speaker 3>what keeps me there, and of course the men. I

0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:39.520
<v Speaker 3>really really love the clients I see.

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:41.720
<v Speaker 1>Talk to me a little bit about how and why

0:35:41.800 --> 0:35:44.080
<v Speaker 1>when you started, or what it was that made you

0:35:44.160 --> 0:35:46.399
<v Speaker 1>go okay. I want to keep Amanda separate. I want

0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Amanda to be me, and I want to have more

0:35:48.320 --> 0:35:50.760
<v Speaker 1>of a stage name when it comes to my work

0:35:50.800 --> 0:35:52.280
<v Speaker 1>and working in that on industry.

0:35:52.400 --> 0:35:56.000
<v Speaker 3>I didn't actively plan to do that. It just evolved naturally.

0:35:56.200 --> 0:35:59.399
<v Speaker 3>I created Samantha, and I didn't sit there and think, Okay,

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:01.360
<v Speaker 3>I want Samantha to be blonde. I wanted to have

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:03.279
<v Speaker 3>big boobs. And I didn't plan all of that. I

0:36:03.360 --> 0:36:06.560
<v Speaker 3>evolved over the past ten years. But I knew that

0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:11.080
<v Speaker 3>if I was at home, housework, being a very normal,

0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 3>typical woman at home, if I was being booked a Samantha,

0:36:13.640 --> 0:36:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I could leave that behind and step into this world.

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:19.160
<v Speaker 3>And I became addicted to that. Stepping into that world,

0:36:19.200 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 3>walking through the hotel, five star, hotel, knocking on the door.

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's escapism, and I'm being treated like a queen, princess, whatever,

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 3>and I'm with the client for one two hours and

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:31.759
<v Speaker 3>then i come home to my real life. And that's

0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:35.359
<v Speaker 3>what I find really hearty. Let go of. Is that escapism?

0:36:35.440 --> 0:36:38.080
<v Speaker 3>That's thrill. I mean, it's intriguing for me. You know,

0:36:38.120 --> 0:36:40.439
<v Speaker 3>as a journalist, I'm intrigued by who I meet behind

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:42.960
<v Speaker 3>the hotel door. I'm always engaged by my client.

0:36:43.239 --> 0:36:45.120
<v Speaker 2>Do you, And I'm sure it's very different from when

0:36:45.160 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 2>you entered the industry until now. Obviously you run your

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 2>own companies and you're very in control and you're very

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 2>very well known and respected. Did you ever and can

0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 2>you now do you see the clients that book you before?

0:36:55.960 --> 0:36:58.759
<v Speaker 2>Like can you choose the client? Because what happens if

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:00.680
<v Speaker 2>like and let's be real, you still want to have

0:37:00.719 --> 0:37:02.279
<v Speaker 2>an attraction. You don't want to go and have sex

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:05.720
<v Speaker 2>with someone. I'm sure that you're repulse by for whatever reason.

0:37:06.280 --> 0:37:08.200
<v Speaker 2>Is there a time that you've ever turned up and

0:37:08.200 --> 0:37:11.520
<v Speaker 2>you've just gone like holy shit, like how do I

0:37:11.520 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 2>get out of this? Or I don't want to do it?

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:14.839
<v Speaker 2>Or is it different for you? And you just love

0:37:14.880 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 2>the whole experience so much that it doesn't matter who's

0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>on the other side.

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter when a woman is working, it doesn't matter,

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:23.880
<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter what they look like. It really doesn't.

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.600
<v Speaker 3>Have I ever felt holy shit, Yes I have. I'd

0:37:27.600 --> 0:37:29.680
<v Speaker 3>be lying if I said no. But they're usually the

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.000
<v Speaker 3>most beautiful clients. I mean one of my clients that

0:37:32.040 --> 0:37:34.960
<v Speaker 3>I miss daily was an eighty five year old man.

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:38.840
<v Speaker 3>Obviously there was no intimacy as in sex, but his

0:37:39.040 --> 0:37:41.880
<v Speaker 3>care would bring him into the hotel at eleven o'clock

0:37:41.880 --> 0:37:45.120
<v Speaker 3>in the morning, be in a wheelchair, he would come upstairs,

0:37:45.440 --> 0:37:46.840
<v Speaker 3>I'd give him a shower. I would sit on the

0:37:46.880 --> 0:37:48.520
<v Speaker 3>bed in a dressing gown and drink a whiskey. I

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.080
<v Speaker 3>don't drink, so he drank a whiskey and that was all.

0:37:51.160 --> 0:37:53.279
<v Speaker 3>And it was really nice to see him. Over the

0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.120
<v Speaker 3>past six months I saw him, you know, he'd become

0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 3>a bit more confident after shaven, wouldn't need his care

0:37:59.000 --> 0:38:01.080
<v Speaker 3>or he wouldn't. He would get out of the wheelchair,

0:38:01.160 --> 0:38:01.880
<v Speaker 3>start walking.

0:38:01.960 --> 0:38:02.120
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:38:02.160 --> 0:38:05.920
<v Speaker 3>It's just really beautiful to see him change a little bit.

0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:08.520
<v Speaker 3>And then when he died, his family rang me and

0:38:08.560 --> 0:38:10.960
<v Speaker 3>invite him to the funeral, which was really lovely. So

0:38:11.080 --> 0:38:13.399
<v Speaker 3>I really missed him. Actually, we used to have such

0:38:13.440 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 3>beautiful chats. So yeah, look, I mean, could I rip

0:38:16.280 --> 0:38:17.920
<v Speaker 3>his clothes and have sex with him? That would be

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 3>a real struggle, but I didn't. We didn't. So there

0:38:21.160 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 3>have been clients where I think, well, not many actually,

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:26.040
<v Speaker 3>because I'm so experienced now, I can tell if they're

0:38:26.040 --> 0:38:27.680
<v Speaker 3>going to be a dickhead just by the way they

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 3>send me a m I don't see those clients.

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Can you teach us that? How do we learn that

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 2>as the general public? How do we learn straight away

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:34.240
<v Speaker 2>that sone's a dickhead.

0:38:34.360 --> 0:38:36.759
<v Speaker 3>Well, my biggest number one advice to women is if

0:38:36.800 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 3>you think he's a dickhetat, he's a dicket. You know,

0:38:38.640 --> 0:38:40.399
<v Speaker 3>if something doesn't feel right, it's not right.

0:38:40.480 --> 0:38:42.680
<v Speaker 1>If he looks and smells like a dickhead, is Samantha

0:38:42.760 --> 0:38:45.560
<v Speaker 1>you mentioned before. You don't know who the person's going

0:38:45.600 --> 0:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>to be, or what type that they're going to look like,

0:38:48.000 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>anything about them, But what is the type of man

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.760
<v Speaker 1>or what is the type of client that you normally see.

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of us would have it in

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:57.040
<v Speaker 1>our heads that there might be a type of guy

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.200
<v Speaker 1>who would call for an escort service. Is that the

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.720
<v Speaker 1>case or is it really just open to kind of anyone.

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 3>It's open to anyone. It's no type. It's just a

0:39:07.200 --> 0:39:09.920
<v Speaker 3>man basically, not just a man, it's women as well.

0:39:09.960 --> 0:39:13.239
<v Speaker 3>But it's yeah, it's there's no type. There's no It's

0:39:13.239 --> 0:39:16.160
<v Speaker 3>not like the dodgy dirty mac brigade that hang around

0:39:16.440 --> 0:39:21.719
<v Speaker 3>train stations. It's people from Pollywood celebrities to tradees to anybody.

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 3>But I would say they all have one thing in

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 3>common and that's what they're looking for, and they're looking

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:26.160
<v Speaker 3>for connecting.

0:39:26.320 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 2>And is it always like I know that you just

0:39:29.560 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 2>talked about this eighty five year old man that you

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:35.920
<v Speaker 2>obviously there was no sex involved. But anyone else that's

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:37.960
<v Speaker 2>younger than that there's obviously able to have sex. Is

0:39:38.000 --> 0:39:40.920
<v Speaker 2>there anyone that would employ you to just be company

0:39:40.960 --> 0:39:42.919
<v Speaker 2>and just have intimacy or to go on a trip

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:46.040
<v Speaker 2>with you, like what's the extent of what you are

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:46.640
<v Speaker 2>hired for?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, there are clients like that. And I don't want

0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 3>to give the allusion to women though that this is

0:39:51.080 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 3>just accompanying men to dinner and they put you in

0:39:53.200 --> 0:39:55.799
<v Speaker 3>a limousine and you go home. I have an houri fee.

0:39:56.000 --> 0:39:58.560
<v Speaker 3>What what we do in that is up to me. Really,

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 3>it's not up to them. It's up to me. But

0:40:00.239 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 3>people are paying for my time. They're not paying for

0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, we're not going to have sex, so you know,

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:06.719
<v Speaker 3>what can you discount? They're paying for my time. So

0:40:07.000 --> 0:40:09.080
<v Speaker 3>there are men that think they want sex, but really

0:40:09.120 --> 0:40:12.400
<v Speaker 3>they don't. They just want company. Majority of men want company.

0:40:12.600 --> 0:40:16.360
<v Speaker 3>Sex is largely always involved, but it's very very vanilla

0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:19.480
<v Speaker 3>and very quick. Really, sorry all my clients.

0:40:19.680 --> 0:40:22.360
<v Speaker 2>That's so funny because you feel like you feel like

0:40:22.400 --> 0:40:24.320
<v Speaker 2>the people that want to come to you for a

0:40:24.440 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 2>night I like, want to go crazy.

0:40:26.239 --> 0:40:28.239
<v Speaker 3>Always makes me laugh because I've lost count of the

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:30.040
<v Speaker 3>number of women that come to me and say, Samath's

0:40:30.040 --> 0:40:31.600
<v Speaker 3>I want to be an escort. I'm addicted to sex,

0:40:31.600 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 3>And I just laugh and I say, don't do this

0:40:33.719 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 3>for the sex. Be on Tinder for sex. Don't be

0:40:36.280 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 3>an escort for sex.

0:40:37.200 --> 0:40:38.879
<v Speaker 2>Tinder won't pay you, though it.

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 3>Costs you, costs you time. That's what I worked out,

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 3>Especially during lockdown. I had clients that would ring me,

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 3>and it's nothing that they didn't want phone sex. They

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:48.520
<v Speaker 3>just wanted to talk to someone, you know. I had

0:40:48.520 --> 0:40:51.400
<v Speaker 3>one client who was suicidal because he's in Melbourne. Obviously

0:40:51.400 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 3>I had a charge him for that. But they are

0:40:52.800 --> 0:40:55.279
<v Speaker 3>searching for so much more than penis and vagina.

0:40:55.360 --> 0:40:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Samantha, you mentioned how important connection is, and I feel

0:40:58.320 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>like I feel like that's probably the bee thing that

0:41:00.840 --> 0:41:02.560
<v Speaker 1>is overlooked in all this. I think when we think

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:05.160
<v Speaker 1>of the sex industry and when we think of escort services.

0:41:05.200 --> 0:41:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I know, I certainly the very first thing that my

0:41:07.440 --> 0:41:10.799
<v Speaker 1>mind went to was the sex work. But one of

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.280
<v Speaker 1>the things, and we heard you speak on another podcast,

0:41:13.320 --> 0:41:14.920
<v Speaker 1>it was one of the parts of this that we

0:41:14.960 --> 0:41:18.239
<v Speaker 1>found so interesting was your conversation around connection and conversation?

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:20.919
<v Speaker 1>Can you explain to me a little bit about how

0:41:20.960 --> 0:41:23.719
<v Speaker 1>and why you find this to be such an important

0:41:23.719 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>part of the services that you provide.

0:41:25.800 --> 0:41:28.799
<v Speaker 3>Connection is probably the number one reason why men book me.

0:41:28.880 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 3>I can't speak for every other escort out there, but

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:33.080
<v Speaker 3>I know for me, and that really surprised me because

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:34.839
<v Speaker 3>I thought it was going to be about sex sect

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 3>X because I feel these days men, well, not necessarily

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 3>these days men. In my experience, men I see they

0:41:41.200 --> 0:41:44.600
<v Speaker 3>don't feel they can be themselves anywhere, and particularly if

0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:47.400
<v Speaker 3>they're busy at work or they've got families or whatever

0:41:47.440 --> 0:41:50.840
<v Speaker 3>their situation is. I see them struggle with their emotions,

0:41:50.840 --> 0:41:53.560
<v Speaker 3>and I see them struggle with being able to talk

0:41:53.840 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 3>and speak freely without being judged. So I call myself

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 3>an overpaid psychologist.

0:41:58.520 --> 0:42:00.440
<v Speaker 2>You probably charge more is mentally training.

0:42:01.560 --> 0:42:04.680
<v Speaker 3>It can be mentally draining, not physically draining. So a

0:42:04.680 --> 0:42:07.560
<v Speaker 3>lot of men I feel as staffed of that connection,

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 3>whereas women are so good at connecting with each other,

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:12.560
<v Speaker 3>and I feel men men aren't so good at that,

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:14.360
<v Speaker 3>or they see it. There's a sign of weakness. But

0:42:14.400 --> 0:42:16.759
<v Speaker 3>it's funny with an escort they will feel comfortable to

0:42:16.800 --> 0:42:19.120
<v Speaker 3>do that. So back to women who think because they

0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:20.960
<v Speaker 3>love sex, they'll be a good escort, it's not really

0:42:21.239 --> 0:42:23.160
<v Speaker 3>a massive part of the job, to be honest.

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:24.799
<v Speaker 2>And the men that come to you, I know you

0:42:24.880 --> 0:42:26.759
<v Speaker 2>just mentioned that there are all different walks of life

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.560
<v Speaker 2>and all different kinds of men. Do you see and

0:42:29.640 --> 0:42:31.399
<v Speaker 2>this is just out of curiosity, but do you see

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 2>a lot of married men, Like, are there a lot

0:42:33.120 --> 0:42:36.240
<v Speaker 2>of family men that are coming to you for whatever reason?

0:42:36.400 --> 0:42:39.120
<v Speaker 2>I would just love to know a if you do

0:42:39.200 --> 0:42:41.520
<v Speaker 2>see married family men and be what's the main reason

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 2>they're coming to you?

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:45.759
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So yes, I do see married men. There are

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 3>a certain percentage of men that not all, but some.

0:42:48.640 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 3>The number one reason they're coming to me is their

0:42:51.600 --> 0:42:54.880
<v Speaker 3>marriages have become all their wives and them have just

0:42:55.080 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 3>become strangers in the night. They have separate bedrooms, separate lives. Rightly,

0:43:00.320 --> 0:43:03.319
<v Speaker 3>they stay because of the children. They don't want to

0:43:03.400 --> 0:43:05.719
<v Speaker 3>leave because they don't lose their money and they don't

0:43:05.719 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 3>want to lose the kids. And there's a feeling of

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:10.600
<v Speaker 3>being trapped. I'm sure their wives feel trapped as well.

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:12.799
<v Speaker 3>So you know, divorce is to boo in a lot

0:43:12.800 --> 0:43:16.000
<v Speaker 3>of cultures as well. Look, I've been in that situation.

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.040
<v Speaker 3>I know what it's like to be an unhappy relationship,

0:43:18.320 --> 0:43:20.480
<v Speaker 3>and as an escort and a professional, it's not my

0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.280
<v Speaker 3>job to judge their marriage. And you know, there's always

0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:24.040
<v Speaker 3>two sides to us.

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Obviously, it's not your responsibility, as in like it's not

0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:30.520
<v Speaker 1>your responsibility to be vetoing your customers who come in

0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:32.799
<v Speaker 1>and making a moral judgment for them saying you know, oh,

0:43:32.840 --> 0:43:35.319
<v Speaker 1>I can't see you because you're married. And like you said,

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:39.759
<v Speaker 1>everyone has different circumstances, but I'm sure or maybe not.

0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:42.360
<v Speaker 1>I'd love to know your opinion this. Do you receive

0:43:42.480 --> 0:43:46.479
<v Speaker 1>backlash from people who when if you do speak about

0:43:46.520 --> 0:43:48.480
<v Speaker 1>seeing married men, or if you do speak about having

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.040
<v Speaker 1>someone come to you who maybe is in a traditional

0:43:51.080 --> 0:43:55.040
<v Speaker 1>family sense, do you couple at a criticism for that personally?

0:43:55.480 --> 0:43:58.680
<v Speaker 3>No. I've had wives contact me, yeah, when they found out,

0:43:58.960 --> 0:44:02.720
<v Speaker 3>but I end up having an honest conversation with the wife.

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:05.400
<v Speaker 3>I remember one and I wrote about it. One woman

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:07.680
<v Speaker 3>rang me and said, oh, you've seen my husband, And

0:44:07.719 --> 0:44:10.520
<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm okay, here's your husband and she told

0:44:10.560 --> 0:44:12.680
<v Speaker 3>and I didn't know who he was. I couldn't remember,

0:44:12.800 --> 0:44:15.560
<v Speaker 3>and she said, we're trying for a baby. He promised

0:44:15.560 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 3>me he wouldn't see escorts anymore, and I'm going to

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 3>get private investigator, Da da dada. And she goes, what

0:44:20.239 --> 0:44:21.879
<v Speaker 3>do you think I should do? And I said, well,

0:44:23.040 --> 0:44:24.520
<v Speaker 3>do you really want to be having a baby with

0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 3>someone you don't trust? You know? So she says, do

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:28.879
<v Speaker 3>you think he'll change? And I said no, I don't

0:44:28.920 --> 0:44:30.800
<v Speaker 3>think he'll change, you know, And I'm not going to

0:44:30.880 --> 0:44:33.680
<v Speaker 3>lie to her. We ended up having a real honest conversation,

0:44:34.040 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 3>and you know, she wasn't saying you, you slut. You know,

0:44:37.440 --> 0:44:40.320
<v Speaker 3>she was just saying, I'm so unhappy I'm with someone

0:44:40.320 --> 0:44:42.120
<v Speaker 3>that does this. What do you think I should do?

0:44:42.400 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 3>And I said, well, if you've got to stage, well,

0:44:43.960 --> 0:44:46.279
<v Speaker 3>you're ringing a stranger ask and asking what you think

0:44:46.320 --> 0:44:48.719
<v Speaker 3>you should do. I don't think you should be having

0:44:49.239 --> 0:44:49.879
<v Speaker 3>a baby with.

0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:52.200
<v Speaker 2>This man, especially she's coming to you for like It's

0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:54.880
<v Speaker 2>almost like, Okay, you've done your therapy session with him,

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 2>and now you're doing it with her as well. It's like,

0:44:57.360 --> 0:44:59.160
<v Speaker 2>but that is so true. If you are having to

0:44:59.200 --> 0:45:01.239
<v Speaker 2>ask someone you I don't know that has swept with

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:05.319
<v Speaker 2>your husband if you should stay together. I mean, like

0:45:05.640 --> 0:45:07.359
<v Speaker 2>they're your answers, right there isn't it?

0:45:07.600 --> 0:45:10.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And I felt for her, But I mean equally,

0:45:10.440 --> 0:45:11.960
<v Speaker 3>I have women that come to me who want to

0:45:11.960 --> 0:45:13.640
<v Speaker 3>be escorts that are marriage and they want to do

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:17.200
<v Speaker 3>this on the side. So I think I'm more intimidating

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 3>for the husbands of my friends than I am for

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:25.839
<v Speaker 3>the wife. I remember one man said to me, don't

0:45:25.880 --> 0:45:28.280
<v Speaker 3>let my wife come and work for you. For God's sake, Samantha,

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:30.319
<v Speaker 3>So when I know my real life, she ended up

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:32.719
<v Speaker 3>working for me actually, and now she's an escort. But

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 3>funny enough, it's the men that have a problem with

0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:37.800
<v Speaker 3>what I do, not the women. But they just split up.

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:41.080
<v Speaker 3>And he said, if she contacts you, don't let her

0:45:41.080 --> 0:45:43.120
<v Speaker 3>work for you. I mean, I'm not. She's a grown woman,

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:44.160
<v Speaker 3>you know, she's in her forties.

0:45:44.360 --> 0:45:45.160
<v Speaker 2>She can do what she wants.

0:45:45.280 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 3>So she ended up contacting me, and you know, now

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:50.920
<v Speaker 3>she's an escort, and I think he's furious at me.

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:53.280
<v Speaker 3>So it's funny. While people may think it's the wives

0:45:53.320 --> 0:45:55.560
<v Speaker 3>that judge me, it's actually the men that are terrified

0:45:55.680 --> 0:45:58.400
<v Speaker 3>that their wives are going to see this free lifestyle

0:45:58.480 --> 0:46:02.279
<v Speaker 3>that I have, and they're stuck in these marriages, and

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:04.799
<v Speaker 3>they might think, oh, you know, she's going to want

0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:06.400
<v Speaker 3>to be free like Samantha. She's going to want to

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 3>be an escort like Samantha. That's where the judgment comes from,

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:11.520
<v Speaker 3>usually not not the why the wives get it. You know,

0:46:11.600 --> 0:46:14.680
<v Speaker 3>women understand why I do what I do nine times

0:46:14.719 --> 0:46:15.760
<v Speaker 3>out of tennally understand.

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure if I'm allowed to ask this, but

0:46:19.360 --> 0:46:21.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask it anyway. I mean, one of

0:46:21.400 --> 0:46:23.920
<v Speaker 1>the big things must be financially and that it's a

0:46:23.960 --> 0:46:26.040
<v Speaker 1>lucrative business to be working in. I feel like that

0:46:26.120 --> 0:46:29.640
<v Speaker 1>must be something that's a calling card. How financially viable

0:46:29.680 --> 0:46:32.000
<v Speaker 1>are we talking? Like what what do we charge a

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 1>client for an evening or for a few hours if

0:46:34.280 --> 0:46:35.960
<v Speaker 1>you were to have someone spend two hours with you,

0:46:36.000 --> 0:46:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm thinking, you know, if your girlfriends and people

0:46:38.680 --> 0:46:41.560
<v Speaker 1>that you're in close contact with, maybe not just seeing

0:46:41.600 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the jobs that you're doing, but also seeing like the

0:46:43.640 --> 0:46:46.480
<v Speaker 1>lifestyle and what you're able to provide for yourself, that

0:46:46.560 --> 0:46:48.560
<v Speaker 1>can also be a really attractive part of this.

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:51.680
<v Speaker 3>Yes, it is, and I think for single moms as well.

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.879
<v Speaker 3>I charge twelve hundred dollars an hour, so I usually

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 3>see clients for a few hours, a couple of thousand

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 3>dollars here, you know, and I don't I charlge obviously

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:02.200
<v Speaker 3>a lot more for that for and overnight, which I

0:47:02.200 --> 0:47:04.919
<v Speaker 3>don't really do that. We're all going overseas. So yeah,

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 3>you can make great money, and you know, I put

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:07.719
<v Speaker 3>it in the bank and I pay my tax.

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:12.440
<v Speaker 2>Disclaimer, don't come at me ATO.

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:14.800
<v Speaker 3>The ATO did bring me once. It was a woman

0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:16.879
<v Speaker 3>or if you work for me, and she was working

0:47:16.920 --> 0:47:17.440
<v Speaker 3>for the ATO.

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:19.440
<v Speaker 2>She saw how much money you were making, She's like,

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I need in on that.

0:47:21.640 --> 0:47:23.040
<v Speaker 3>I asked her if she was going to pay tax

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:27.880
<v Speaker 3>on the money she hadn't it, and of course not.

0:47:28.160 --> 0:47:30.080
<v Speaker 3>It is a true story, by the way. You know,

0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.560
<v Speaker 3>it's great for making money, but also you don't have superannoation,

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 3>you don't have sick pay. You don't you know, I

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:37.560
<v Speaker 3>might be really busy one month and dead the next,

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 3>but I'm making more money now than I was a journalist.

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:41.360
<v Speaker 3>I guarantee that.

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:43.879
<v Speaker 2>So they got an average week, how many clients would

0:47:43.880 --> 0:47:45.239
<v Speaker 2>you see or how many nights would you work?

0:47:45.320 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 3>Or look now these days barely any because I'm really

0:47:48.200 --> 0:47:50.520
<v Speaker 3>winding it down. But you know, you can make a

0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:52.160
<v Speaker 3>lot of money. I mean, I know girls that bought

0:47:52.400 --> 0:47:54.879
<v Speaker 3>properties and you know millions.

0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:57.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, you mentioned just then that you're making more now

0:47:57.239 --> 0:47:59.160
<v Speaker 1>than what you did as a journalist, something that I

0:47:59.160 --> 0:48:01.520
<v Speaker 1>wanted to go back to. In regards to your journalist's career,

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:04.840
<v Speaker 1>you've been quoted saying that you entered the adult industry

0:48:04.840 --> 0:48:07.160
<v Speaker 1>because it was more ethical than the media industry.

0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.279
<v Speaker 3>Tell me about this, especially these days, I stand by that,

0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:12.759
<v Speaker 3>Especially in London, I was a journalist for the tabloids

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:15.640
<v Speaker 3>and I was told to make things up and I

0:48:15.640 --> 0:48:17.759
<v Speaker 3>did some things I wasn't proud of, you know. I

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 3>had to go to families when let's say, I remember

0:48:20.400 --> 0:48:22.640
<v Speaker 3>one incident. The man had just died in a fire

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:24.919
<v Speaker 3>and he was racing his sports scar and he died,

0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:27.120
<v Speaker 3>and I turned up at the family's house that day,

0:48:27.200 --> 0:48:30.439
<v Speaker 3>knocked on the door, turned up with a photographer trying

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:32.280
<v Speaker 3>to get a photo of him, you know, just behoging

0:48:32.280 --> 0:48:35.040
<v Speaker 3>it on people's lives. In Australia it's a bit more gentle.

0:48:35.080 --> 0:48:38.000
<v Speaker 3>The media here is more gentle. But again, a journalist

0:48:38.040 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 3>is a journalist at the end of the day. And

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm not saying, oh, you know, being an escort is

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:45.439
<v Speaker 3>certain I'm like a saint now, but I actually find

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:48.640
<v Speaker 3>them a wholesome industry, you know, dealing with people on

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:51.719
<v Speaker 3>a very raw emotional level, a very human level. And

0:48:51.760 --> 0:48:54.680
<v Speaker 3>I've certainly learned the art of compassion as an escort.

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.480
<v Speaker 3>As a journalist, yes, I was interviewing people about their

0:48:57.560 --> 0:48:59.839
<v Speaker 3>murdered husbands or whatever, and you do have a level

0:48:59.840 --> 0:49:01.759
<v Speaker 3>of compassion. But as a journalist you've always got to

0:49:01.760 --> 0:49:04.440
<v Speaker 3>think at the headline and you know the angle. Whereas

0:49:04.480 --> 0:49:07.359
<v Speaker 3>an escort, apart from the money and the transactional side

0:49:07.360 --> 0:49:09.399
<v Speaker 3>of it, it's another human to another human.

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think, like I mean, Laura and I, even

0:49:11.520 --> 0:49:13.760
<v Speaker 2>just at our little level, have been on the receiving

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.840
<v Speaker 2>end of journalism that's completely fabricated, and it's all the

0:49:16.880 --> 0:49:18.680
<v Speaker 2>headings are clickbait, and if you get to the very

0:49:18.760 --> 0:49:21.759
<v Speaker 2>end of the article, there's one line that is actually truth,

0:49:21.800 --> 0:49:24.000
<v Speaker 2>and that's actually been pulled from what happened to what

0:49:24.120 --> 0:49:25.880
<v Speaker 2>was said. So like we see that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think you're right. Having been a journalist

0:49:28.840 --> 0:49:31.239
<v Speaker 3>and having been someone the journalists right about, I just

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:33.040
<v Speaker 3>I can see through it.

0:49:33.080 --> 0:49:35.320
<v Speaker 1>Now, how do you find that the media has treated

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:38.239
<v Speaker 1>you since you've come out very publicly as Samantha X.

0:49:38.280 --> 0:49:41.160
<v Speaker 1>And since you've written your books Hooked being like a

0:49:41.200 --> 0:49:44.160
<v Speaker 1>real expose on the life and what goes on as

0:49:44.280 --> 0:49:46.400
<v Speaker 1>the life of an escort. How do you find the

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:49.040
<v Speaker 1>media has treated you since then? Because I do remember,

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:50.640
<v Speaker 1>and I even think back a couple of years ago

0:49:50.680 --> 0:49:53.400
<v Speaker 1>when your book first came out, I was singing Samantha

0:49:53.560 --> 0:49:56.399
<v Speaker 1>X in Daily Mail almost daily for a little while there,

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:58.439
<v Speaker 1>and I know that it can be really hard being

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of front facing of public scrutiny. What was your

0:50:01.600 --> 0:50:04.000
<v Speaker 1>experience with the media like it came in twos?

0:50:04.040 --> 0:50:06.799
<v Speaker 3>Really, it wasn't Daily Mail. The stories weren't bad. It

0:50:06.840 --> 0:50:09.719
<v Speaker 3>was the comments from people. Look, it was horrible, but

0:50:09.760 --> 0:50:11.840
<v Speaker 3>it was also excited. It was horrible to be on

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:14.439
<v Speaker 3>that side of the of the media, but it also

0:50:14.440 --> 0:50:17.279
<v Speaker 3>became quite addictive, and I can see why you get

0:50:17.280 --> 0:50:19.239
<v Speaker 3>addicted to that. Am I in the press? I'm in

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:20.759
<v Speaker 3>the press. I'm in the press. And now that's sort

0:50:20.800 --> 0:50:23.400
<v Speaker 3>of petered out. I'm actually really relieved and I don't

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:25.520
<v Speaker 3>chase the publicisy. I don't want to be in the

0:50:25.600 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 3>Daily Mail anymore. When I first came out of Samantha,

0:50:28.200 --> 0:50:29.960
<v Speaker 3>it was a bit of a whirlwind. It was quite

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:32.880
<v Speaker 3>a not dark time for me, but it was I

0:50:32.960 --> 0:50:36.719
<v Speaker 3>was sort of disconnected from what was actually going on.

0:50:36.960 --> 0:50:38.680
<v Speaker 3>And now I've sort of, you know, I've just become

0:50:38.680 --> 0:50:40.880
<v Speaker 3>a bit more chill and I'm happy to take a

0:50:40.880 --> 0:50:41.359
<v Speaker 3>step back.

0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you a juicy question. It was

0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:45.680
<v Speaker 2>something like when I was doing my due diligence and

0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:47.360
<v Speaker 2>doing all my research on you. It's just something that

0:50:47.400 --> 0:50:50.040
<v Speaker 2>I read and I thought so many women would want

0:50:50.080 --> 0:50:53.520
<v Speaker 2>to know about this. It's just about like a confidence thing.

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:56.080
<v Speaker 2>And I guess in the bedroom there are so many women,

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.600
<v Speaker 2>even with their partners, that are self conscious about their body,

0:50:59.640 --> 0:51:01.760
<v Speaker 2>is conscious about sex. They don't know how to do anything.

0:51:01.840 --> 0:51:04.160
<v Speaker 2>They think that the men are thinking things that they're not.

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:06.279
<v Speaker 2>And I read a comment that you said about in

0:51:06.320 --> 0:51:09.279
<v Speaker 2>my experience, men's favorite position is the woman on top

0:51:09.320 --> 0:51:12.520
<v Speaker 2>because they're visual. I just want to know, like, what

0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:15.439
<v Speaker 2>is your experience in that, and what can you say

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:17.440
<v Speaker 2>to people that are self conscious about that in the

0:51:17.480 --> 0:51:19.800
<v Speaker 2>bedroom and what men are actually thinking, because I'm pretty

0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:21.960
<v Speaker 2>sure men are not looking at that tiny little role

0:51:21.960 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 2>on your belly saying, oh my god, there's a role

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:24.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to have sex with it.

0:51:26.120 --> 0:51:28.960
<v Speaker 3>That's such a good question, Rennie, because I am also

0:51:29.160 --> 0:51:31.560
<v Speaker 3>very self conscious, and you know, I don't have a

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:35.200
<v Speaker 3>perfect body and I'm forty seven. It always makes me smile,

0:51:35.280 --> 0:51:38.080
<v Speaker 3>and I wish women knew that that when they're on

0:51:38.200 --> 0:51:40.959
<v Speaker 3>top with their partners, the men aren't going, oh my god,

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:44.080
<v Speaker 3>look at a double chin, Oh my god, look at

0:51:44.080 --> 0:51:47.000
<v Speaker 3>a veiny tits, or they're not even thinking. They can't

0:51:47.040 --> 0:51:49.000
<v Speaker 3>even see that, you know, they're just thinking about a

0:51:49.040 --> 0:51:50.600
<v Speaker 3>woman on top of them. Pat They're just grateful to

0:51:50.640 --> 0:51:53.319
<v Speaker 3>have sex, to be honest, and you know, the things

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 3>I don't like about my body a man has never

0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 3>commented on, ever, ever, ever commented on. So I think

0:51:59.120 --> 0:52:01.239
<v Speaker 3>the pressure to be per effect doesn't come from men.

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:04.160
<v Speaker 3>It comes to myself. The sexiest thing about women, I've

0:52:04.160 --> 0:52:07.040
<v Speaker 3>always said is confidence. And they say use is wasted

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 3>on the young. I really get that now the older,

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:10.919
<v Speaker 3>I get more confident I am. And it's not because

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 3>my body's got better. It's because I've accepted my body,

0:52:13.360 --> 0:52:15.400
<v Speaker 3>you know. And I've had surgery. I mean, I've had boobs,

0:52:15.440 --> 0:52:17.520
<v Speaker 3>job a job, and I've had tweaks here and there.

0:52:17.600 --> 0:52:20.200
<v Speaker 3>But the most sexiest thing a woman can do to

0:52:20.239 --> 0:52:22.359
<v Speaker 3>her body is love her body. And I don't want

0:52:22.360 --> 0:52:24.440
<v Speaker 3>to sound like a Hallmark card, but it's very true.

0:52:24.680 --> 0:52:27.320
<v Speaker 3>And I've learned that not sady because I want validation

0:52:27.440 --> 0:52:30.399
<v Speaker 3>for men, but it's just good for women to know

0:52:30.440 --> 0:52:33.160
<v Speaker 3>that when you're happy and confident within your body automatically

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:33.920
<v Speaker 3>becomes sexyer.

0:52:33.920 --> 0:52:35.400
<v Speaker 2>What is it that the men are asking for? Like,

0:52:35.400 --> 0:52:37.520
<v Speaker 2>because I think a lot of people think that when

0:52:37.560 --> 0:52:40.040
<v Speaker 2>a man wants to hire an escort, there are whips,

0:52:40.040 --> 0:52:42.480
<v Speaker 2>there are handcuffs, there are sex wings, like you're hanging

0:52:42.480 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 2>from the bed. It's like George of the Jungle. People

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:47.520
<v Speaker 2>think that it's just like wild laid eggs, you got

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:49.399
<v Speaker 2>the balls in the mouth. But what is that men

0:52:49.400 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 2>are actually wanting in the bedroom in terms of is

0:52:51.560 --> 0:52:56.279
<v Speaker 2>it freaky? The positions vanilla and plane and missionary even

0:52:56.320 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 2>though that's not vanilla, that's actually one of the best

0:52:58.120 --> 0:53:02.239
<v Speaker 2>positions man in my experience, But like, how freaky is

0:53:02.280 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 2>it or how not freaky is it?

0:53:04.280 --> 0:53:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay? So there's a market for all of that bulls

0:53:07.560 --> 0:53:09.560
<v Speaker 3>in the mouth and chains and stuff. I've never been

0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:13.040
<v Speaker 3>exposed to it. It's things like looking in your eyes

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:17.800
<v Speaker 3>and looking at each other and cuddling basically very normal.

0:53:18.000 --> 0:53:20.360
<v Speaker 3>It's timid, if you know what I mean. It's just

0:53:20.560 --> 0:53:23.200
<v Speaker 3>very normal, innocent sex and.

0:53:23.120 --> 0:53:26.960
<v Speaker 2>What would be the most common position requested just out

0:53:26.960 --> 0:53:29.200
<v Speaker 2>of curiosity? This is just like some research on my

0:53:29.239 --> 0:53:31.440
<v Speaker 2>own missionary missionary?

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:34.120
<v Speaker 1>Wow, isn't that? It just goes to show like how

0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:37.600
<v Speaker 1>little awareness I mean me personally, I would have thought

0:53:37.600 --> 0:53:39.960
<v Speaker 1>that it is a whole lot kinkier than this, you know,

0:53:39.960 --> 0:53:42.799
<v Speaker 1>And I think sometimes it's the kinky, salacious stories that

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:45.400
<v Speaker 1>get the attention, and maybe that's why we have this

0:53:45.480 --> 0:53:48.359
<v Speaker 1>perception about this industry that it is a little bit

0:53:48.360 --> 0:53:51.319
<v Speaker 1>more sordid and a little bit more risque. It's so

0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:53.800
<v Speaker 1>interesting to speak to you and also understand that women

0:53:53.800 --> 0:53:56.399
<v Speaker 1>who work in this industry have agency and they can

0:53:56.480 --> 0:53:58.319
<v Speaker 1>choose the type of work that they want to be

0:53:58.360 --> 0:54:00.360
<v Speaker 1>doing as well. What do you think some of the

0:54:00.360 --> 0:54:03.920
<v Speaker 1>biggest stigmas or some of the biggest myths around this

0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:06.359
<v Speaker 1>industry that you would just love love people to know

0:54:06.719 --> 0:54:10.280
<v Speaker 1>that it's not true or to try and rework people's

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:12.840
<v Speaker 1>frameworks about how they think about the sex industry.

0:54:13.200 --> 0:54:16.359
<v Speaker 3>So I think the number one biggest myth about women

0:54:16.400 --> 0:54:18.560
<v Speaker 3>in this industry is that we're forced to do it

0:54:18.680 --> 0:54:21.080
<v Speaker 3>or doing it against our will, whereas in actual fact,

0:54:21.080 --> 0:54:23.960
<v Speaker 3>there are plenty of women like me who are in

0:54:24.040 --> 0:54:27.200
<v Speaker 3>professional careers, who have left professional careers, are still working

0:54:27.280 --> 0:54:30.319
<v Speaker 3>in them and make an educated decision to be an

0:54:30.400 --> 0:54:32.640
<v Speaker 3>escort as well. And they're not doing it because on

0:54:32.640 --> 0:54:35.239
<v Speaker 3>the breadline or because they've got a drug habit to

0:54:35.280 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 3>feed or whatever. They're doing it because they enjoy men,

0:54:39.480 --> 0:54:41.680
<v Speaker 3>enjoy the company of men, they have compassion, and they

0:54:42.280 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 3>want the lifestyle. There's plenty of women I know that

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:46.000
<v Speaker 3>do that. There are women that you would never even

0:54:47.160 --> 0:54:49.080
<v Speaker 3>guess that are escorts, you know, and it's not the

0:54:49.080 --> 0:54:51.040
<v Speaker 3>ones that look like escorts are either it's the very

0:54:51.080 --> 0:54:54.880
<v Speaker 3>conservative looking school mums or I had a doctor that

0:54:55.040 --> 0:54:57.479
<v Speaker 3>moon lighted as an escort as well. It's all sorts

0:54:57.520 --> 0:54:59.719
<v Speaker 3>of women. That's the number one thing. Number two thing

0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:02.239
<v Speaker 3>I get is that it's a legitimate business. It's a

0:55:02.320 --> 0:55:06.319
<v Speaker 3>legal industry, and it is recognized by the law. I mean,

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:09.080
<v Speaker 3>it's the oldest profession in the world. It's not going anywhere.

0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:13.200
<v Speaker 3>It's decriminalized. And I hope by the more women and

0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:15.120
<v Speaker 3>men there's men in the industries that the more when

0:55:15.160 --> 0:55:17.880
<v Speaker 3>men and women that speak out about their jobs, the

0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:19.000
<v Speaker 3>less to do it becomes.

0:55:19.200 --> 0:55:21.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think it's important to highlight too that

0:55:22.040 --> 0:55:24.319
<v Speaker 2>there definitely are women out there that are probably not

0:55:24.360 --> 0:55:26.400
<v Speaker 2>doing it by choice and they don't have the opportunity,

0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 2>and it is they're in a situation that it is

0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:30.560
<v Speaker 2>unfortunately forced and they feel like they have no other option.

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:32.520
<v Speaker 2>But it is so nice to also hear that there

0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:35.319
<v Speaker 2>are so many women like you in other professions that

0:55:35.360 --> 0:55:37.520
<v Speaker 2>are like literally putting their hand up to you, saying

0:55:37.560 --> 0:55:39.600
<v Speaker 2>like like, let me do this. I want to get

0:55:39.640 --> 0:55:42.359
<v Speaker 2>amongst this. But I have a question regarding dating life

0:55:42.440 --> 0:55:46.239
<v Speaker 2>out of curiosity, how has been an escort, especially one

0:55:46.239 --> 0:55:48.680
<v Speaker 2>that's been so public because you do have a public profile,

0:55:48.760 --> 0:55:51.000
<v Speaker 2>How has it affected your dating life? Do you think

0:55:52.120 --> 0:55:54.400
<v Speaker 2>it is harder to date and actually have relationships? And

0:55:54.440 --> 0:55:57.359
<v Speaker 2>when you get into a relationship if you do, do

0:55:57.400 --> 0:55:59.160
<v Speaker 2>you stop escorting over that time?

0:55:59.640 --> 0:56:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes? And I get poor, so.

0:56:04.120 --> 0:56:05.360
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not in a relationship.

0:56:05.360 --> 0:56:08.160
<v Speaker 3>Ever, they're not paying my bills, which is the common

0:56:08.200 --> 0:56:11.319
<v Speaker 3>problem with women in my industry. We meet someone, they

0:56:11.360 --> 0:56:13.839
<v Speaker 3>say they don't care about the job. You know, they're

0:56:13.880 --> 0:56:17.160
<v Speaker 3>attracted to that exciting side of you. And then when

0:56:17.200 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 3>things get serious, they want you to stop working. You

0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:22.520
<v Speaker 3>stop working, you get poor, they're not paying your bills,

0:56:22.560 --> 0:56:23.640
<v Speaker 3>and then they turn out to be a bit of

0:56:23.680 --> 0:56:26.279
<v Speaker 3>a dick anyway, so you just get poor and heartbroken.

0:56:26.600 --> 0:56:30.160
<v Speaker 3>That's big, sweeping umbrella's statement, but that's what it's been

0:56:30.200 --> 0:56:33.200
<v Speaker 3>like in my case. I've always struggled with dating and relationships,

0:56:33.239 --> 0:56:35.600
<v Speaker 3>to be honest, which is why I'm a great escort,

0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:37.840
<v Speaker 3>because it's the intimacy. I can handle a couple of

0:56:37.840 --> 0:56:40.640
<v Speaker 3>hours here and there. At night, I'm done, and I

0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:42.839
<v Speaker 3>think at my age as well, my late forties, I

0:56:42.960 --> 0:56:45.840
<v Speaker 3>like my own time, so it really suits my lifestyle

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:48.400
<v Speaker 3>at the moment. I'm not ruling out a relationship, but

0:56:48.600 --> 0:56:49.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to give up my job again for

0:56:50.000 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 3>a man. I've made that mistake and it just doesn't work.

0:56:52.120 --> 0:56:54.239
<v Speaker 3>And a lot of women in my position have done

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:57.120
<v Speaker 3>the same. It doesn't work, you give it up, you

0:56:57.160 --> 0:57:00.120
<v Speaker 3>get resentful, and you're always I love going back. You

0:57:00.120 --> 0:57:02.160
<v Speaker 3>know when I'm ready to stop working, and that that's

0:57:02.280 --> 0:57:04.120
<v Speaker 3>going to be happening soon. I think when I'm ready

0:57:04.120 --> 0:57:07.200
<v Speaker 3>to stop working, then I would be opened to meeting someone.

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:10.200
<v Speaker 3>But I'm not gonna make the mistake I have in

0:57:10.239 --> 0:57:10.720
<v Speaker 3>the past.

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:13.600
<v Speaker 2>I think that's important in any industry as well. Like

0:57:13.960 --> 0:57:16.520
<v Speaker 2>I remember I've given like personally, I've given up things

0:57:16.560 --> 0:57:19.320
<v Speaker 2>in the past for a man, and things that I

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 2>had really really wanted to do, I put them on

0:57:21.080 --> 0:57:23.200
<v Speaker 2>hold because I thought it was love and that's what

0:57:23.240 --> 0:57:25.120
<v Speaker 2>you do. And I remember just saying, I will never

0:57:25.160 --> 0:57:27.720
<v Speaker 2>fucking do that again. What a waste of my two

0:57:27.920 --> 0:57:29.040
<v Speaker 2>years of my life.

0:57:29.960 --> 0:57:31.120
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have to You don't have to be an

0:57:31.200 --> 0:57:33.240
<v Speaker 3>escort to do that. I think, you know, you shouldn't

0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:35.400
<v Speaker 3>have to give up anything to be with someone. They

0:57:35.440 --> 0:57:38.520
<v Speaker 3>meet you as you are. You know, obviously there's you evolve,

0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:41.360
<v Speaker 3>But and I completely understand why a man would want

0:57:41.360 --> 0:57:45.480
<v Speaker 3>me to stop working, But it's unrealistic for me to

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:47.960
<v Speaker 3>give up work on a whim because I've met someone

0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:51.080
<v Speaker 3>and I still the bills haven't changed, my mortgage repayments

0:57:51.080 --> 0:57:54.000
<v Speaker 3>haven't changed, and you know, I would never ask anyone

0:57:54.040 --> 0:57:56.320
<v Speaker 3>else to pay my mortgage for me. So yeah, it's

0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:58.040
<v Speaker 3>really tricky. I think we do it once, then we

0:57:58.040 --> 0:57:58.600
<v Speaker 3>don't do it again.

0:57:58.760 --> 0:58:00.760
<v Speaker 1>We have spoken to quite a bit on this podcast

0:58:00.800 --> 0:58:04.200
<v Speaker 1>in regards to like how when you have sexual relationships

0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:06.600
<v Speaker 1>with someone. That's when like you can kind of start

0:58:06.600 --> 0:58:09.040
<v Speaker 1>there and then feelings can develop. Have you ever been

0:58:09.080 --> 0:58:12.440
<v Speaker 1>in a situation when you have been working as Samantha

0:58:12.560 --> 0:58:15.280
<v Speaker 1>and then you've caught the feels for someone who originally

0:58:15.320 --> 0:58:16.400
<v Speaker 1>started out as a client.

0:58:16.960 --> 0:58:19.640
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I have met someone and I we fell in love.

0:58:20.560 --> 0:58:23.280
<v Speaker 3>And my second book was called Back on Top and

0:58:23.320 --> 0:58:26.640
<v Speaker 3>it describes our relationship. Yeah, we were crazy about each other.

0:58:26.680 --> 0:58:29.280
<v Speaker 3>He was a businessman in Melbourne. But again it didn't

0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:32.280
<v Speaker 3>work because he wanted me to stop working. I didn't

0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:35.080
<v Speaker 3>trust him and it just didn't work. So that it

0:58:35.160 --> 0:58:37.720
<v Speaker 3>very rarely works when that happens. It's not like the

0:58:37.720 --> 0:58:40.600
<v Speaker 3>pretty woman scenario where Richard Gear comes in and sweeps

0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:43.560
<v Speaker 3>you off your feet. It's more complex than that. It

0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:47.320
<v Speaker 3>didn't end too well. But yeah, it was a very

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:49.760
<v Speaker 3>passionate relationship. But it's a lot of women do fall

0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:52.280
<v Speaker 3>in love with clients and vice versa. The clients fall

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<v Speaker 3>in love with who they think you are.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all for one night stands, We're all for whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want to do. But for women, I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>it's different. For men, when you start to have sexual relationships,

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<v Speaker 2>you actually almost can't help but to feel something and

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<v Speaker 2>develop something. There's a dopamine here, there's endorphins, and whether

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<v Speaker 2>or not you want to say it like this is

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<v Speaker 2>no strings attached. I feel like after a few times

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<v Speaker 2>subconsciously it starts to develop. So I think that that's

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely normal.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think it also goes to show that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, especially with your work, like there would I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you would have such a higher level of being able

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<v Speaker 1>to separate these things out. I think when you say that,

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<v Speaker 1>brit you're talking about for like us in our very

0:59:29.760 --> 0:59:33.360
<v Speaker 1>normal relationships, whereas this isn't a normal relationship. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>work relationship. And I know that it can be kind

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<v Speaker 1>of hard for people. I mean I even sometimes find

0:59:38.160 --> 0:59:39.680
<v Speaker 1>it out a bit difficult to get my head around.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's because it's a world that I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>exposed to. But you must be able to walk into

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<v Speaker 1>these experiences and see some of them quite transactionally. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you ever find it hard to separate your personal world

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<v Speaker 1>from the Samantha world or is it something that you've

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<v Speaker 1>just been doing so long now that you kind of

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<v Speaker 1>go cool, they are so separate to each other.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been doing it so long now, I find very

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<v Speaker 3>easy to disconnect from it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>The thing I find hard now is to reconnect when

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<v Speaker 3>I'm with normal people. Yeah. I mean I can see

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<v Speaker 3>a client and then he said, oh, do you remember

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<v Speaker 3>we saw each other, you know, ten years and I

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<v Speaker 3>just won't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I do know. There's some guys who I dated it

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<v Speaker 1>and they'll say, hey, we dated ten years ago. If

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<v Speaker 1>I can remember who you are.

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<v Speaker 2>Legitimately. That happens to me too. Or like I'll walk

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<v Speaker 2>around Sydney or a Bondai or something and I'll see

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<v Speaker 2>someone I was like, did we go on a date

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<v Speaker 2>or did I just stalk you on Instagram? Or did

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<v Speaker 2>I see you on Tinder? I don't remember which one.

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<v Speaker 1>Samantha, I have a question, which is around only fans.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we've spoken about only Fans on the podcast before.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like, you know, it is gaining a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of momentum. Have you found that only Fans has affected

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<v Speaker 1>or changed your industry at all? And if so, in

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<v Speaker 1>what ways?

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<v Speaker 3>Look I don't really, I mean I have an only

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<v Speaker 3>Fans account. It's very tame, But no, it hasn't because

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<v Speaker 3>the men, in my experience, the men that see me

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<v Speaker 3>aren't looking for an online connection. They want a physical

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<v Speaker 3>connection and a human connection. But only fans is going gangbusters.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I know women that make a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>money from it, but it's not really a world I

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<v Speaker 3>know too much about. And we have it for our angels.

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<v Speaker 3>We have Samantha X after Dark OnlyFans, but yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a world I don't know too much about because of

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<v Speaker 3>my age as well, I'm not comfortable with online stuff

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<v Speaker 3>and I trust it, but I'm more a human person.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk to me about Samantha X angels and what that

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<v Speaker 1>comprises and Samantha X after Dark.

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<v Speaker 3>So smanth Rex after Dark is our business. We have

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<v Speaker 3>an advertising platform for male escorts, for female escorts. We

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<v Speaker 3>sell lingerie and sex toys, and we have the agency,

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<v Speaker 3>so we have women that work for us as escorts. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>during lockdown, it was all we had to shut. So

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<v Speaker 3>the thing that did really well was the online sales,

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<v Speaker 3>so lingerie and sex toys went through the roof during COVID.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, we have women that work for us, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we train them.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you make sure that you guys prioritize safety.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that this is probably one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that would be a big fear when you go in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a big fear with online dating. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a big fear when you meet people in a private

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<v Speaker 1>situation where you've you know, you don't know them apart

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<v Speaker 1>from an online connection. How do you prioritize your own

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<v Speaker 1>safety but also people safety who work for you under

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<v Speaker 1>Samantha X after Dark, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably safer than online dating. You know, we check

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<v Speaker 3>their phone number against an app. We check their phone

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<v Speaker 3>numbers with other women if we need to other girls

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<v Speaker 3>in the industry. We get a real idea of who

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<v Speaker 3>they are we are. Sometimes we ask them to pay

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<v Speaker 3>deposits so we have their bank details. We don't get

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<v Speaker 3>all that on Tinder. And also I take the bookings

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<v Speaker 3>for the Angels, myself and my business partner Vanessa, and

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<v Speaker 3>we know exactly what we're looking for, and we know

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<v Speaker 3>exactly kind of client we want, and we say no

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<v Speaker 3>to a lot of clients. So we do our due diligence.

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<v Speaker 3>And I would never send a girl to see a

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<v Speaker 3>client that I wouldn't see myself. So we have never

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<v Speaker 3>touched word had an issue. I always say to the women,

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<v Speaker 3>the men and more terrified, and they are the absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>terrified when you turn up.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess another question that I have which I'm curious

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<v Speaker 1>about is safety around STIs what do you do with

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<v Speaker 1>your clients or how do you manage your own sexual

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<v Speaker 1>health when it comes to having several different clients or

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<v Speaker 1>you know, making sure that that's something that's a priority.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess, well, I get tested every three months, and

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<v Speaker 3>I know the girls do too. I've never caught coal

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<v Speaker 3>off a client. Obviously, condoms we use, and so it

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<v Speaker 3>will probably safer than the average women who if you

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<v Speaker 3>meet at a bar and you have unprotected sex, blah

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<v Speaker 3>blah blah. I don't know. I don't do that, but

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<v Speaker 3>the clients obviously are very particular as well. They don't

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<v Speaker 3>want to catch anything or get anyone pregnant. I've never

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<v Speaker 3>had to be in a situation really where I've said

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<v Speaker 3>to a client, what's that thing on your day? And

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<v Speaker 3>I know there are girls that have been and they

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<v Speaker 3>just don't see the client. You know, It's amazing though.

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<v Speaker 3>Men don't care. They actually don't care. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if they had something on their dick, they don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>They still just try and wam bam, thank you ma'am.

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<v Speaker 3>Some will try and oh do we have to use

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<v Speaker 3>a condom. I'm like, don't you I might have something.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't care, I might get pregnant. They just don't care. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's a very safe industry in that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Sex work is probably the safest women you could have

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<v Speaker 3>sex with because they get tested all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>In terms of you saying that you train your angels

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously, I mean, I guess it's like any job

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<v Speaker 2>that you want to train people on the job and

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<v Speaker 2>you want them to understand your business and your industry.

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<v Speaker 2>What does training look like for you guys in the industry.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it more I mean, are you actually saying what

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<v Speaker 2>to do in the bedroom? Or is it more how

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<v Speaker 2>to manage the men and speak to them, or or

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<v Speaker 2>what talk me through that?

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean I don't discuss sex at all really

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<v Speaker 3>with the girls. You know, what goes on in the

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<v Speaker 3>bedroom is their business. There's nothing to do with me.

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<v Speaker 3>I have never once, I don't think I've ever talked

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<v Speaker 3>about low jobs or anything. For the girls. It's more

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<v Speaker 3>to do with how to dress. You know, the logistics

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<v Speaker 3>of how to get the client to the hotel room.

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<v Speaker 3>The money's that, you know, if he based by credit

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<v Speaker 3>card or logistics of that, or how to greet him

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<v Speaker 3>in public. I also speak to him about if something

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't feel right when you walk into the room walk out,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we always have your back. You will never

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<v Speaker 3>have to justify to us. We're always on her side, always, always,

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<v Speaker 3>always never. You know, we're always going to take old

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<v Speaker 3>women's side, and these aren't. I'm not talking about eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>yeard girls. We're talking about thirty five, forty five, fifty

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<v Speaker 3>year old women. Yeah, you know they've there. We don't

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<v Speaker 3>even to well young girls etiquettes what to wear, what

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<v Speaker 3>not to wear, and what to wear is usually corporate.

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<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. And do you think that older women or

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<v Speaker 2>more mature women more requested and in demand than younger women.

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<v Speaker 3>The biggest request we have is for women over forty.

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<v Speaker 3>What the men tell me is they want someone they

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<v Speaker 3>can talk to you. They want someone with life experience,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, which goes to my point that it's not

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<v Speaker 3>about having the perfect body and not about you know,

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<v Speaker 3>being sexual. It's about life experience, about warmth, it's about compassion.

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<v Speaker 3>These are things that of women as we age, or

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<v Speaker 3>ep human as we age, we get more of being

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<v Speaker 3>around the block. A few times to know how to

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<v Speaker 3>make someone feel comfortable. And for women that age, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not one bank get out so I can go with

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<v Speaker 3>my mates. It's like, you know, the women are enjoying

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<v Speaker 3>it too. You can bring water the table, I think,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think men feel more comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there a lot of public profiles in Australia? Athletes

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<v Speaker 2>or people we would know that use your services.

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<v Speaker 3>While I can never give names, obviously we have. We

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<v Speaker 3>have a Hollywood celebrity, huge, huge Bollywood celempty that comes

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to town. He books my girls and

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<v Speaker 3>I can't say too much about him except that he

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<v Speaker 3>was heating McDonald's up in the microwave. Why well, because

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't matter how much money someone can have. The

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<v Speaker 3>best hotel in Australia probably were the best access to

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<v Speaker 3>the best food and wine. They had to bring with

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<v Speaker 3>a microwave to his suite so he could heat up

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<v Speaker 3>his big mac.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, this is amazing. I wish we could

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<v Speaker 1>know names. We want to move on to sobriety. Now

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<v Speaker 1>you are sober. You're having sober for a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not exactly sure how long, So tell us about that.

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<v Speaker 1>When did you decide to go sober, and why.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I was getting past the stage where it was

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<v Speaker 3>just a few drinks. You know. I wasn't drinking in

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<v Speaker 3>the morning or anything like that, but it was becoming

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<v Speaker 3>a problem for me in the way that my life

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<v Speaker 3>is unraveling a little bit. And I wasn't really control

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<v Speaker 3>of myself when I was drinking, and it was very

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<v Speaker 3>much to champagne lifestyle. It wasn't going to end up well.

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<v Speaker 3>So I was very lucky to nip it in the bud.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm part of a twelve step program and it's

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<v Speaker 3>the best thing I ever did. Getting sober was the

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<v Speaker 3>best and the hardest thing I've ever done. Writing a

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<v Speaker 3>book about being an escort and coming out to Australia,

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<v Speaker 3>it was nothing compared to getting sober. So Yeah, I've

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<v Speaker 3>been sober for more or less on and off a

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<v Speaker 3>few years now. It's the best thing I overdid. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you find that you had to drink or you

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<v Speaker 2>felt like you needed to drink before you went to

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<v Speaker 2>see a client? Was that part of it?

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<v Speaker 3>No? No, I didn't need to drink before a job.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would always drink on the job and have

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<v Speaker 3>a glass of wine. But the thing is a glass

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<v Speaker 3>of wine turns into a bottle of wine. Do that

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<v Speaker 3>five times a week? You know, it's a lot of alcohol.

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<v Speaker 3>And I can't handle my alcohol. I could never handle

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<v Speaker 3>it the best of times. And then I would hold

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<v Speaker 3>it together for the client and then come home and

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<v Speaker 3>drink or just use alcohol in a way that wasn't healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you find it all that when you were drinking

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<v Speaker 1>it impacted your ability to make good decisions when you

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<v Speaker 1>were in that environment. So when you were escorting, did

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<v Speaker 1>you find that you would wake up the next day

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, fuck, I really wish I didn't do that,

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<v Speaker 1>or I didn't say that, or you know, because I

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<v Speaker 1>know that, like for myself when I was drinking my

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<v Speaker 1>twenty is the biggest part of it for me was

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<v Speaker 1>waking up with alcohol guilt and feeling like the things

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<v Speaker 1>I'd done the night before I was. I felt shameful

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<v Speaker 1>for her, I was embarrassed about. Was that something that

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<v Speaker 1>you were dealing with as well?

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<v Speaker 3>Enormously? Yeah, and I was. It wasn't so much what

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<v Speaker 3>I was doing, It was a feeling, you know, feeling disgusting,

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<v Speaker 3>feeling worthless, feeling shameful in my real life as well.

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<v Speaker 3>So I really struggled with that and took me to

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<v Speaker 3>some dark places, some very dark places. Making the decision

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<v Speaker 3>to go sober. I wasn't really all my decision. My

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<v Speaker 3>friends were really worried about me. And you know, if

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<v Speaker 3>I say, if you don't think you have a problem

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<v Speaker 3>with alcohol, tried giving up. And since I've given up,

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<v Speaker 3>my life has completely changed inside out. Even though I

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<v Speaker 3>look has changed my skin, I'm definitely more grounded now.

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<v Speaker 3>I shudder at some of the things I said or

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<v Speaker 3>I did. It's more than a cringe. It's a mortification

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<v Speaker 3>that I've said some of those things.

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<v Speaker 1>But we do live in such a culture and such

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<v Speaker 1>a society that we're heroes, so drinking it makes it

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<v Speaker 1>so hard, even just going out with friends. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think a lot of the time it's unintentional peer pressure

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<v Speaker 1>as well, where people like, oh, just have one drink

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<v Speaker 1>because nobody wants to be the one drinking on their own,

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<v Speaker 1>so you always want your friend to have a glass

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<v Speaker 1>of wine with you, and that can be the thing

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<v Speaker 1>that adds to people's pressure around moderation. I think like

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<v Speaker 1>for a lot of people, moderation doesn't exist. When you

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<v Speaker 1>say it was harder, it was harder to go sober

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<v Speaker 1>than what it was, to come out as an escort,

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<v Speaker 1>publicly come out as an escort. Why what was it

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<v Speaker 1>that made it so hard to give up?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when you stop drinking, you have to deal with

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<v Speaker 3>the problems that cause you to drink in the first place.

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<v Speaker 3>Will you rip the band aid off? And you think, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I can either work through this or I can carry

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<v Speaker 3>on masking it. And when you work through the pain

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<v Speaker 3>that you felt or feel, that masks the reasons why

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<v Speaker 3>you drank that that's really challenging. And the easiest thing

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<v Speaker 3>to do would be to start drinking again. And alcohol

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<v Speaker 3>is everywhere everywhere, so saying no to that takes a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of strength. But to me, I just play it forward.

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<v Speaker 3>If I say yes to that drink, two weeks later,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll be back to where I was, and I just

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to be in that sad place. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>going to end up well, it was not going to

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<v Speaker 3>end up well.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for coming on today, Samantha. I

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<v Speaker 2>could literally speak to you for hours.

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<v Speaker 3>Really, maybe you should book me for a few hours.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's that savvy business woman. I love it, Samantha.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for coming for being a part

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<v Speaker 1>of Lafeon Cartes, for sharing your story, and it's just

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<v Speaker 1>been a pleasure interviewing you. It. There's so much about

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<v Speaker 1>the world that you work in that for Britta and I,

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<v Speaker 1>we both it's so foreign to us, and you've definitely

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<v Speaker 1>destigmatized a lot of things for us today as well,

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<v Speaker 1>so we greatly appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 3>Thanks Dora. If you're looking for a career change, let

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<v Speaker 3>me know.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt, we're going to make a thousand, three hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 1>a night, let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>I al really appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks Samantha.

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<v Speaker 1>It is time for our second favorite part. Actually it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a third favorite. Everything's our favorite part of this

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<v Speaker 1>episode where we talk about our suck and our sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Now suck and our sweet is just a high light

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<v Speaker 1>and our low light of each and every week. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you guys aren't doing this with your friends or

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<v Speaker 1>your family, we highly recommend. It's such a nice way

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<v Speaker 1>of unpacking the week that's just been and figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>what's something that you're super grateful for and something that

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<v Speaker 1>you wish fucking didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually did this with my nephew this week. He's

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<v Speaker 2>too and he said that his favorite part of his

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<v Speaker 2>sweet of the week was that he played in the

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<v Speaker 2>sandbox with his friend. It's preschool. I love it. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely here for it, but I'll kickstart it. My suck

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<v Speaker 2>of the week was that I have come up to

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<v Speaker 2>the Gold Coast and I'm just here for a few days,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was catching up with my best friend. And

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<v Speaker 2>I have my best friend since we were five years old,

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<v Speaker 2>so we have been best friends for a very long time.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen her for a very long time, so

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<v Speaker 2>we booked a dinner, me, Sherry, and her. We got

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<v Speaker 2>to the dinner. I was so excited. We'd ordered one drink.

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<v Speaker 2>We were just about to order the food when she

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<v Speaker 2>gets a phone call that one of her little baby

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<v Speaker 2>She's got two little kids, one of them was so

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<v Speaker 2>sick that she had to go home. So our catch

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<v Speaker 2>up lasted for I mean, the drink only just came.

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<v Speaker 2>She scolded the drink, and then she had to leave.

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<v Speaker 2>So that was definitely my suck was that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we were after years of not catching up, we finally

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<v Speaker 2>got the chance, but her little one got sick. So

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<v Speaker 2>definitely my suck. I mean, that's life, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh Man? I feel sorry for hers. First thing, going

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<v Speaker 1>to say this, I hate that every time you say

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<v Speaker 1>anything negative about motherhood as a mum, you always feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you need to preface it with like, oh, motherhood

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<v Speaker 1>has so many great things, but it's also has these

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<v Speaker 1>really trying and challenging times. Of course, as mums were

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<v Speaker 1>grateful for all the great things, but there are definitely

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<v Speaker 1>times where you just think, God, man, I wish that

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<v Speaker 1>life was a little bit less complicated and I got

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<v Speaker 1>to just be selfish for a day and I got

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<v Speaker 1>to just take care of me. You know, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>sorry for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh No, I felt way more sorry for her than me.

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<v Speaker 2>Like she ended up in the hospital all night, her

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<v Speaker 2>little kid had she had to go on a nebulize

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<v Speaker 2>her and it was really bad. But yeah, like the

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<v Speaker 2>suck wasn't really for me. The suck was like obviously

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't see her, but yeah, that night for her

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<v Speaker 2>was disaster, Like I got to go home alone and

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<v Speaker 2>she had to go spend it in a hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>So man, really pulled out the suck there, Brittany, how's

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<v Speaker 1>your sweet Well, Like, usually I don't have sucks. Usually

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<v Speaker 1>they're so stupid, Like I stopped my toe but this

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<v Speaker 1>was a big one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>My sweet is also the fact, the same thing, basically

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<v Speaker 2>in reverse, that I am up here. I did get

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<v Speaker 2>to see Sherry, I got to see my brother who

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen in over a year. My nephew who's

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<v Speaker 2>only so small he barely recognizes me because I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>seen him in over a year. So just the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that I got to reconnect, which was really nice.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that that is going to be the sweet

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<v Speaker 1>for so many people this week, the next, like, for

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<v Speaker 1>like the next month. Just feeling like all of these things,

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<v Speaker 1>all of these connections that have had to happen over

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<v Speaker 1>zoom for the past four months, all the past two years,

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<v Speaker 1>just being able to see people and touch people in

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<v Speaker 1>real life is so fulfilling and amazing. My suck for

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<v Speaker 1>the week, I've had the fucking best week, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>like not even afraid to shout it out. Okay, my

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<v Speaker 1>suck for the week was sobernign, so nothing. I bought

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<v Speaker 1>a coffee from the coffee shop that I love and

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't put the lid on it properly and it's

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<v Speaker 1>spilt all through my car and all down my clothes.

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<v Speaker 1>The other day, very entertaining.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a huge suck. That is huge.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like the one person I guess so excited about

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<v Speaker 1>my morning coffee. It's like my one little treat, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like it did me dirty. Okay, but my

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<v Speaker 1>sweet I have so many of them. Last week was

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<v Speaker 1>a huge week for Tony May. We launched a new

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<v Speaker 1>collection and nothing like Goot said on fire or broke

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<v Speaker 1>down or everything just.

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<v Speaker 2>Went went well.

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<v Speaker 1>Love that well, yeah, sometimes it can be so anti

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<v Speaker 1>climatic because you can put so much time and energy

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<v Speaker 1>and effort into something and then it doesn't turn out

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<v Speaker 1>how you expect. But it was really fulfilling to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to kind of get that out into the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Then my other huge sweet, which is like by far

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest one, was that I got to see my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and my stepdad on the weekend. I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>them for months and months and months. They haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>Lola since she was two months old and she's now

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<v Speaker 1>eight months, so it was huge for us. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just so nice being able to be together

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<v Speaker 1>as a family. It meant the absolute world to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is my suck and my sweet. The suck

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty trivial, but the sweet were really big highs

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<v Speaker 1>this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and like you just said, those suites is going

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<v Speaker 2>to be everyone. Everyone is going to start to feel

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<v Speaker 2>that the coming weeks and the coming months, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so excited for everyone to have that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so happy for you guys, like honestly, for every

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<v Speaker 1>single person who's been struggling through this lockdown. I just,

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly can't be more happy for all of you,

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<v Speaker 1>for us as well, but like for all of you,

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<v Speaker 1>I know how many people are in our Life on

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<v Speaker 1>Cut community have been doing it tough and have been

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<v Speaker 1>really missing seeing their friends and families. So I'm so

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<v Speaker 1>stoked for you guys as well.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope you guys loved today's episode. We really did.

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