WEBVTT - Who Owns a Story? From Beckham to Britney

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<v Speaker 1>Life Uncut acknowledges the traditional custodians of country whose lands

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<v Speaker 1>were never seated. We pay our respects to their elders

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<v Speaker 1>past and present.

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<v Speaker 2>Always was, always will be Aboriginal Land. This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>recorded on Drug Wallamata Land.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, guys, and welcome back to another episode of Life Uncut.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Brittany and I'm Laura. Hi everyone, it's been a

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<v Speaker 1>silly morning.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't All I want to talk about is your teeth.

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<v Speaker 3>That's all I wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's because I'm still working out how to speak,

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<v Speaker 1>because I've got a wire.

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<v Speaker 3>You're in my mouth from my visa line.

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<v Speaker 1>So I over articulate sometimes and sometimes I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>over articulate and I get lazy.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's a whole battle in my mouth right now.

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<v Speaker 2>For somebody who talks for a living. It's something that

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<v Speaker 2>you've been finding very hard, and I'm really I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>enjoying it.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope that you get better. I hope you overcome

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<v Speaker 3>this sea.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not enjoying what I'm not enjoying, that you are

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<v Speaker 2>finding it difficult to I.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought you were like, you're not enjoying in my mouth.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I love her mouth I love everything about your mouth,

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<v Speaker 2>love being in your.

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<v Speaker 3>Presence, but being inside my mouth. Be inside my mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, guys, this is Tuesday, Happy Tuesday, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a very unexciting life update. But I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>tell you guys anyway, So Mollie more exciting than well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a parenting update. Okay, So Mally she goes to

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<v Speaker 2>sleep now, she's four and a half, and she sleeps

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<v Speaker 2>in our bed every single night. We don't intentionally co

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<v Speaker 2>sleep with our child. She just gets up and gets

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<v Speaker 2>into bed.

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<v Speaker 1>She comes in and you're too lazy slash tired to

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<v Speaker 1>get up and put it back.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're like, oh, I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Go to bed and every night, I reckon. We probably

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<v Speaker 2>get about six hours sleep now because like she like

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<v Speaker 2>I've said this before, but she'll have her foot in

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<v Speaker 2>my tit a foot and in my spleen. I sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>wake up and I've got her face on top of

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<v Speaker 2>my face.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds great, And so.

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<v Speaker 2>We play musical beds all night, Like I'll get out

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<v Speaker 2>of my bed and I'll go and sleep in her bed. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>she does this thing where she sleeps and she sucks

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<v Speaker 2>her thumb and simultaneously puts a finger up her nose.

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<v Speaker 2>So she puts her point to finger straight up her

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<v Speaker 2>nose while sucking her thumb. That's so weird, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>She creates an L and she just while she picks

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<v Speaker 3>a nose. She's asleep. How far up can the finger

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<v Speaker 3>go up a nose?

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<v Speaker 2>She just think about an L shape with your finger.

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<v Speaker 2>Make everybody wherever you are make an L shape. Put

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<v Speaker 2>your thumb in your mouth, and stick your pointed finger

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<v Speaker 2>into your nose. She's tickling her brain.

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<v Speaker 4>Hop can it go?

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<v Speaker 2>So the issue is is that she has been giving

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<v Speaker 2>herself these like hectic nosebleeds every night because she's got

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<v Speaker 2>her finger so far up into her slide. This is

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<v Speaker 2>so this is a real problem because her bed has

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<v Speaker 2>the plastic mattress protector on it. Slip on plastic, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of it's not plastic plastic, but yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like a great big shower cap. But for the mattresses

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<v Speaker 2>that glad rappid arc No. I was thinking more like luggage,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, how like you cover it. No, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>think about like going to a very old Italian nunna's

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<v Speaker 2>house and the couch is covered in a plastic to

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<v Speaker 2>protect it, like sign Seinfelder nanny. It was the nanny

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<v Speaker 2>the moment parents. Okay, so it's kind of like that

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<v Speaker 2>sort of vibe, but in her mattress.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway. We don't have one on our mattress because.

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<v Speaker 2>Surprisingly neither matt or myself piss ourselves whilst we sleep,

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<v Speaker 2>so we don't need one. But we do have like

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<v Speaker 2>a we have a material mattress protector. Anyway, the problem

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<v Speaker 2>is that she doesn't sleep in her own bed. She

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<v Speaker 2>only sleeps in our bed. So three consecutive nights last

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<v Speaker 2>week she had her finger up and her sinus is

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<v Speaker 2>so bad that she had a full on nose bleed

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<v Speaker 2>and she wakes up and it is like shark week,

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<v Speaker 2>Like the kid is covered in blood down her shirt,

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<v Speaker 2>all over the mattress, in her hair, like it's disgusting.

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<v Speaker 2>The last time she did it, the nosebleed was so

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<v Speaker 2>bad it went through the mattress protector. It's literally just

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<v Speaker 2>this massive mark on the mattress. And so we've got

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<v Speaker 2>like a nice mattress. We bought it when Lula was born,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>The fucking mattress.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, So I call up a company sor it's bleeding

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<v Speaker 2>in your bed. Now, the blood's in your bed. The

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<v Speaker 2>blood is in my bed. Shark week happened in my bed.

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<v Speaker 2>The co sleeping thing is the reason why. So we

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<v Speaker 2>called up a professional steam cleaner and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I need someone to come and get this out. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it is soaked into the Is it called memory foam? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's deep in the memory foam. It's deep in the memes.

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<v Speaker 2>It's deep in the memes. Yeah, I'm not getting that

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<v Speaker 2>out with some spray and white. So I call up

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<v Speaker 2>and I said to the guy on the phone, I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, I'm so sorry. My daughter's had a nosebleed.

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<v Speaker 2>I need someone to come out and clean the mattress,

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of urgently because I don't want it to dry.

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<v Speaker 2>And he was like, yeah, no worries, it's fine. He

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<v Speaker 2>was like how much? And I was like, look, there's

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<v Speaker 2>a reasonable amount of blood he's bled through the mattress

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<v Speaker 2>protector onto the mattress. And he was like, no worries,

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<v Speaker 2>it's one hundred and eighty bucks. I can be out

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<v Speaker 2>there by two o'clock.

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<v Speaker 3>Cool, wow cleaner. I was like, this is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know job. So he comes in and

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<v Speaker 2>it's not the guy that I spoke to on the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>But as he walked in the door, I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>just letting you know, like you know, my daughter had

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<v Speaker 2>a nose bleed. And he walks in and like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know how kids never sleep Like, okay, you don't know this,

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<v Speaker 2>but parents will. Kids don't sleep with their head on

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<v Speaker 2>a pillow. They motor around the fucking bed like. They

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<v Speaker 2>motor around like they'll sleep with their their head and

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<v Speaker 2>your crutch. They'll sleep with their head downe at your feet,

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<v Speaker 2>like their heads everywhere. So the nosebleed is like towards

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<v Speaker 2>the enter of the bed, right, So the guy walks in,

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<v Speaker 2>the mattress is stripped and he says, oh, oh oh,

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like sorry, like because of the reaction,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're a problem. Like he looked shocked and a

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<v Speaker 2>bit repulsed. And then it dawned on me he didn't

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<v Speaker 2>believe me. He doesn't think it's a nosebleed. He thinks

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<v Speaker 2>it's period blood. And the guy is freaked the fuck

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<v Speaker 2>out by a bit of period blood. Also, grow up,

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<v Speaker 2>go touch some grass, Grow the fuck up. Anyway, he

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<v Speaker 2>was freaked out by period blood. And then he said

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<v Speaker 2>to me he goes, oh, that's not a nose bleed,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, well it is, and he goes,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a nose bleed, and I was like, the

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<v Speaker 2>nosebleas out my vaginant.

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<v Speaker 3>My vaginant has a nosebleed.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourth signs.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, he charged me, He charged me extra.

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<v Speaker 2>He charged me two hundred and eighty dollars because he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't believe me it was a nosebleed. And I put

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred dollar period tax.

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<v Speaker 3>He put a period tax on.

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<v Speaker 2>He never said the word period that he said. He said, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not a nose bleed, and then just kept repeating

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<v Speaker 2>that it's not a nose bleed. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I understand what you're insinuating, Like you don't know when

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<v Speaker 2>you can. You can check my vagina if you want to.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not currently on my period, but that's fine anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So I couldn't argue with him. I end up paying

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and eighty dollars to get my mattress cleaned.

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<v Speaker 3>I hope he didn't actually say you can check my vagina.

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<v Speaker 2>No I didn't, but please, if you'd like to do

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<v Speaker 2>your diligious can you clean up there as well? So

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<v Speaker 2>many questions. Also, I just want to let you all

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<v Speaker 2>know it didn't fucking work. The mattress still has a

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<v Speaker 2>massive nosebleed stain on it, not period blood. No, And

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm like, do I need to get a new

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<v Speaker 2>mattress because it looks like shark week in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of my bed. And if anyone ever comes and stays over,

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<v Speaker 2>like sometimes I weren't the sheets on already.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so embarrassing, humiliating, But mattresses are expensive and kids,

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<v Speaker 3>she's gonna do it again?

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<v Speaker 1>Nah, I just think you put a sheet on it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think you easy to get rid of a

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<v Speaker 1>new mattress because youve got a stain on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I reckon.

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<v Speaker 2>Some people will disagree with you. It is not a

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<v Speaker 2>little stain. It looks like day two period.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you yeah, he was onto something, if you

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<v Speaker 1>put a sheet on it, you can't see it through

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<v Speaker 1>the sheet.

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<v Speaker 3>No, any guest overstays, just say.

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<v Speaker 2>Just leave it, I'll strip the bit later. You're like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll do it. How wait? How embarrassing for them though,

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<v Speaker 2>when the one time when they think they're doing me

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<v Speaker 2>a favor and they strip the bed and then they

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<v Speaker 2>see that someone was murdered there.

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<v Speaker 3>How am I going to do with that? And if

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<v Speaker 3>they report you, Look, that's what's been happening in my life.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a real conundrum.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what you say grow up to this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>That was like, wh you say grow up? But in

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<v Speaker 1>his head he's just walked in and having to clean

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<v Speaker 1>some other random person's period blood for mattress, He's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have that reaction.

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<v Speaker 2>What is different? Like, what is the difference between a

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<v Speaker 2>nosebleed and a bit of period blood? It's just like

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of blood. No, there's a different It's just no.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you on a lot, but this you

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<v Speaker 2>cannot tell me. This is not a difference between a

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<v Speaker 2>little nosebleed and shark week for a woman.

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<v Speaker 3>True.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Look, we had a really good week last week, guys.

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<v Speaker 2>It was our Melbourne Live show. Melbourne was amazing for

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<v Speaker 2>many reasons. But I'm still at a high do you.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason, I didn't think Melbourne was going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the big one.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 3>I always thought maybe maybe because we're based in Sydney.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought Sydney would be the big one.

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<v Speaker 1>But Melbourne was insane, like the biggest show by far

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<v Speaker 1>that we had the wildest, the most hectic.

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<v Speaker 3>It was truly incredible.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know why.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I knew malbul was big in terms of capacity.

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<v Speaker 2>I just thought people of Melbourne are cool, that you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna clap quietly, You're going to just be a cool audience.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because we're not. Because historically speaking.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool, we're not cool. We are not cool, and we

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<v Speaker 2>are cool with not being not cool. And Sydney is

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<v Speaker 2>particularly uncool, and I feel like the regional towns like

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<v Speaker 2>and that everyone's screaming and they're excited. Melbourne, you sent

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<v Speaker 2>it. It was amazing. Also, we had a bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>wild card with how Melbourn show, so you guys might

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<v Speaker 2>have seen if you follow on Instagram. We were supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to have Flex Mammy on stage with us, but unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>she had some personal stuff going on so she wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>able to do the show.

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<v Speaker 3>We were so sad.

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<v Speaker 2>About that because we had a fucking amazing chat with

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<v Speaker 2>her in Perth and we love Flex and we love

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<v Speaker 2>Flex and we wanted to do it again in Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 2>But it actually worked out completely fine in the end anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>because we had Tones and I come and she was

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<v Speaker 2>an unexpected addition to the show. What she shared in

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<v Speaker 2>that interview, like her story, there was such an incredible

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<v Speaker 2>vulnerability from her that was unexpected to even you and Ibriy,

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<v Speaker 2>Like we were sitting there in that interview and we,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean we thought we would have kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a top line chat around her career and

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<v Speaker 2>her successes for anyone who if you don't know who

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<v Speaker 2>Tones and I is. She's the writer and singer and

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<v Speaker 2>producer and everything behind the ridiculously successful song Dance Monkey.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you know that's the third most downloaded song ever

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. Yeah, that song the third most downloaded

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<v Speaker 1>song in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And she shared how much she now hates that song,

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<v Speaker 2>and she also shared parts around how she became the

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<v Speaker 2>superstar that she is, how she started off busking, how

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<v Speaker 2>she went through a really, really fucking challenging relationship. It

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<v Speaker 2>was an incredibly vulnerable chat that took both of us

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<v Speaker 2>by surprise, and I think anyone who was in that

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<v Speaker 2>Melbourne audience would have felt what we felt, and that

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<v Speaker 2>it was such a privilege to be able to hear

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<v Speaker 2>her story. And I mean, off the back of that,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to try and get her on the podcast

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<v Speaker 2>to do a full interview with her, because it was

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<v Speaker 2>just beautiful.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a really really special moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always loved Tones and I as an artist, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's all I've ever known her as. I've never known

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<v Speaker 1>her until now, So I loved her as the artist,

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<v Speaker 1>but now I'm obsessed with her as a person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because she's so private, and so I think that

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<v Speaker 2>that's why most people only love her as an artist.

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<v Speaker 3>She never shares this stuff. Yeah, But besides that, even

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<v Speaker 3>if she does share, I still don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I sto didn't know.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, but she is a really private person.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the biggest compliments we could have received

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<v Speaker 1>I think I could receive. I won't to speak for you, Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was something Tone said afterwards.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, she's I've never shared ever the stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>I have shared today.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason for that is you guys, and the

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<v Speaker 1>audience out there and the community you've created. She said,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the she was, you know, side of stage,

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<v Speaker 1>because the interviews are the second half, So she's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I watched the audience out there and the way they

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<v Speaker 1>were interacting with you guys, and you could just tell

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<v Speaker 1>that this was a community that was such a safe place,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's like, they are the reason I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>open up today, and I was like, that is the biggest,

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<v Speaker 1>hands down compliment we could have, is that the people

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<v Speaker 1>that are coming on this journey with us are all

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<v Speaker 1>just so fucking incredible, Like each one of you, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that you have made someone like tones and I will

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<v Speaker 1>come to home comfortable enough to share her story because

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<v Speaker 1>she has never shared it before, and.

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<v Speaker 2>She absolutely she did also call you all a cult,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm here for it.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like, I think Life on Cut is actually

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<v Speaker 3>a girl.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, some liminal messages in there. Welcome to the Church

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<v Speaker 2>of Life on Cut everyone. No, but like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I said it. Melbourne, you were such an

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<v Speaker 2>unexpected show. It was just a ma We got to

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<v Speaker 2>meet so many of you beforehand, and some of you

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<v Speaker 2>shared your stories with us, some of you invited us

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<v Speaker 2>to your weddings like it was a wild night and

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<v Speaker 2>one other thing that I loved as well. And I

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<v Speaker 2>guess that this is something I would love to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of encourage for you guys for any of the future shows.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got Gold Coast this week, then we have Canberra

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<v Speaker 2>and then we have Brisbane. And then oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>the toy is over. There's any three more shows left.

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<v Speaker 2>But in Melbourne and in Sydney, some of the people

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<v Speaker 2>who were going solo to the shows organized like a

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<v Speaker 2>Life on Cup meetup pre show, so they went out

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<v Speaker 2>for dinner. So if you're coming to a show solo,

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<v Speaker 2>chuck it in the Facebook group, create a little event

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<v Speaker 2>prior and it means that instead of ending up there

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<v Speaker 2>by yourself, you end up there with a whole group

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<v Speaker 2>of friends. And I cannot tell you how many people

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<v Speaker 2>are coming to these live shows by themselves.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it takes a bit of bravery to go and

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<v Speaker 2>to you know, I mean, if you've ever been to

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<v Speaker 2>the movies by yourself, if you've ever been to an

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<v Speaker 2>event by yourself, it takes a bit of bravery to

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<v Speaker 2>go and do that. And so for every single one

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<v Speaker 2>of you who have come to these live shows completely

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<v Speaker 2>solo because you love it and you didn't want to

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<v Speaker 2>miss out and noney friends wanted to come, we just

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<v Speaker 2>want to say, one, you're not alone, and I know

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<v Speaker 2>you know that now, but two, we are so grateful

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<v Speaker 2>for you doing that because we know that that's stepping

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<v Speaker 2>outside your comfort zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh. Two other things I wanted to talk about, not

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<v Speaker 1>talk about, but I want to mention before we move on.

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<v Speaker 1>One accidentally unfiltered from last week. The corn that got

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<v Speaker 1>stuck in the fore skin. He was at the Melbourne show.

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<v Speaker 1>We sort of revisited. We thought, you guys are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>love this. This was one that came in from Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 3>We told it on stage and he put his hand

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<v Speaker 3>up and stood up.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes it was me, and he absolutely owned it,

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole audience completely loved him, like I just

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<v Speaker 2>love that he.

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<v Speaker 3>Put his hand off.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, ah've corn boy. It really redefined the whole

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<v Speaker 2>corn boy meme, didn't it. I Mean, it's gone from

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<v Speaker 2>being this lovely, adorable little black American boy singing it's

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<v Speaker 2>corn to being a fantastic gay guy in Melbourne who

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<v Speaker 2>is now the new corn boy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's literally corn boy and everyone started going as cornboy,

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<v Speaker 1>but they loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>If you don't know the story, it was on last

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday's episode. Basically, his partner at the time found a

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<v Speaker 2>colonel of corn in his foreskin, which came out of

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<v Speaker 2>an orifice of his Anyway, go back and listen to

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<v Speaker 2>the actually unfiltered that week because it's fucking hilarious.

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<v Speaker 1>And the second thing was Mitch Chrury, our beloved radio

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<v Speaker 1>co host and the MC. He opens the show at

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<v Speaker 1>every venue. He's taken dating to the next level. He

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<v Speaker 1>was on a first date at the show while he

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<v Speaker 1>was on the stage, so he's never met this guy

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<v Speaker 1>in his first date and I don't know how this lands.

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<v Speaker 1>His first date was to come, he said, come and

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<v Speaker 1>watch me perform.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think what happened was is he matched with

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<v Speaker 2>him on a dating side or something. They were chatting

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<v Speaker 2>and this guy was like, well, while you're hre, do

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<v Speaker 2>you have time for a drink? And Mitch was like no.

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<v Speaker 2>Because the Melbourne show was such a flyby. We flew in,

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<v Speaker 2>we did the show, we flew out the next day

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<v Speaker 2>and Mitch was like, no, but I can put you

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<v Speaker 2>on the door at the live show that I'm He goes.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm too busy, I'm performing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm performing at the today, So he flaxed.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, this guy came.

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<v Speaker 2>We then added him on stage and Mitch he played

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<v Speaker 2>it up that he was awkward and embarrassed. If you

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<v Speaker 2>were there at the live show, Mitch was like, stop

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<v Speaker 2>at I'm so angry. He knew from top down that

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<v Speaker 2>we were going to say that on stage, and he

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<v Speaker 2>played it up for the audience, so I was I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, why are you making this so awkward for everyone, Mitch?

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, he knew what he was doing. What did

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<v Speaker 2>you do on a second date after that?

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<v Speaker 4>Though?

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<v Speaker 3>If that's your first day, what do you do? I

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<v Speaker 3>think you fly him to the Gold Coast and then

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<v Speaker 3>you bring show.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, something that, Britt you have been trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get me to watch, and I know so many

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<v Speaker 2>of you guys who watched.

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<v Speaker 3>You spoke about it a couple weeks ago. The David

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<v Speaker 3>Beckham series.

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<v Speaker 2>I finally watched the last episode last night, and do

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<v Speaker 2>you love it? I do?

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm also a cynic, so like I started because are.

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<v Speaker 2>You sitting and everything? Just enjoy it for what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I was unpacking.

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<v Speaker 2>I was unpicking the way in which it is put together,

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<v Speaker 2>because obviously it's created so that you're like, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>David Beckham was a lot and he is great. I

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<v Speaker 2>love him. He's so hot. I remember, okay, I remember

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<v Speaker 2>when he had a shaved head and I was like, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>that man is so fucking sexy. I was probably twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>but anyway, it doesn't matter. I do remember him being

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<v Speaker 2>this like ridiculously godlike pin up. But I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>so interesting how you watch this four series like biopic,

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<v Speaker 2>and at every point in his life, when he's been

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<v Speaker 2>shrouded in controversy i e. The affairs, which we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>into very shortly, you managed to feel sorry for him.

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<v Speaker 2>You managed to be like, oh, but he's still so lovable.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's had these moments in life which could make

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<v Speaker 2>him quite unlikable, but this memoir has allowed him to

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<v Speaker 2>reframe those moments so that in everyone's mind he's actually

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<v Speaker 2>just been the most incredible person from start to finish.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh, we all love David Beckham. Yeah, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Not gonna like he produced it.

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<v Speaker 1>His company put this out, like, of course, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to control the narrative and.

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<v Speaker 3>Make yourself look a hundred times better.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved the documentary, so Matt cried.

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<v Speaker 2>I just loved.

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<v Speaker 1>It so much because you do see a different side

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<v Speaker 1>into the life of people that you feel like you

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<v Speaker 1>know but you actually know nothing about. Because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>famous quote unquote, that's what famous people athletes, Hollywood stars,

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<v Speaker 1>a spice girl. You feel like you know them because

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<v Speaker 1>they're so big in the public lirbe, but you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what goes on behind closed doors, and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know the mechanics, even the mechanics behind the football world,

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<v Speaker 1>and what that was like seeing from his perspective, A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of what it was like being hounded by the paparazzi,

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<v Speaker 1>the streets, the fans, like not being able to do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>the death threats. I was just on the edge of

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<v Speaker 1>my seat the whole time. I genuinely loved it. Victoria

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<v Speaker 1>Beckham is the MVP. She is a superstar man.

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<v Speaker 2>What she put up with, that woman is either a

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<v Speaker 2>saint or she's been brainwashed, because like, I do not

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<v Speaker 2>know many women who would put up with the relationship

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<v Speaker 2>that she has put up with. Like in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>like his selfishness with moving away the affairs, there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much to unpick from that. But like at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of it, I was kind of like, unpack or unpick,

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<v Speaker 2>unpick and unpack. I'm gonna unpick it all and then

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<v Speaker 2>a week and unpack it. But I think, yeah, think

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<v Speaker 2>for me, I was like, wow, she must be so

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<v Speaker 2>patient and so in love with him, because she certainly

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<v Speaker 2>isn't the damsel in distress, right, Like, I don't watch

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<v Speaker 2>that and think, oh my god, you've been so manipulated

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<v Speaker 2>to stay. Obviously, she is incredibly powerful, she's incredibly successful,

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<v Speaker 2>she loved him, she loved him, and she's made her

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<v Speaker 2>own choices. So I don't think it frames her as

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<v Speaker 2>though she was in any way in a relationship where

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<v Speaker 2>she didn't have equal power. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 2>she experienced a lot of things at the hands of

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<v Speaker 2>his selfishness, which makes you go, why would you stay?

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<v Speaker 3>There was actually one.

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<v Speaker 1>Part where and I was like, Wow, what a thick

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<v Speaker 1>skin you actually do have, because I don't think i'd

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<v Speaker 1>be able to be as strong as you were in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not even the affair.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just that one moment when the world turned

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<v Speaker 1>against David Beckham and they were in this huge stadium.

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<v Speaker 1>Victoria was there and they were all hating on David.

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<v Speaker 1>They were booing him and stuff, and the whole stadium

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<v Speaker 1>of like eighty thousand people started to chant, posh takes

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<v Speaker 1>it up the US, Posh takes it up with us,

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<v Speaker 1>like over and over the entire stadium and she was there,

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<v Speaker 1>and she was just.

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<v Speaker 3>Powering on, like pretending like it didn't touch the size.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously, she has explained how hurt she was in that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but imagine how much you've been through in life to

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<v Speaker 1>get to a point where that cannot make you get up,

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<v Speaker 1>run away and cry and hide like you just put

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<v Speaker 1>on your ray face, you support your husband. And that

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<v Speaker 1>was a moment where I was like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>how much of your life is like this now? Because

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<v Speaker 1>they were getting the death threats, they were getting completely hounded,

0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:19.760
<v Speaker 1>they were getting horrific trolling, There was kidnapping threats on

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<v Speaker 1>their kids.

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<v Speaker 3>It was insanity.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess it also comes down to this almost like

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<v Speaker 2>exposure therapy. Like not to say that they were ever

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<v Speaker 2>used to it. I don't think you can ever get

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<v Speaker 2>used to that kind of abuse, but you do build

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<v Speaker 2>up a tolerance for it, especially when you've experienced it

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<v Speaker 2>for so long. And she came off the back of

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<v Speaker 2>being a spice girl, so it's not as though she's

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<v Speaker 2>not ever experienced or being used to having trolling or

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<v Speaker 2>vitriol or anger from.

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<v Speaker 3>Being at the base of that. Do you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean the thing that we wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about more so was the affair. And I guess recently

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<v Speaker 2>the reason why, I mean, the documentary has been up

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<v Speaker 2>for alleged. We don't want to get too it's an affair.

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<v Speaker 3>It's no alleged.

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<v Speaker 2>You can legend. I'll say, come and see me, okay.

0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Obviously the docu series has been out for a little

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<v Speaker 2>while now. If you've seen it, it's four episodes. I'm

0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:07.880
<v Speaker 2>sure a lot of people have seen it to the end.

0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.000
<v Speaker 2>That's not what's news. But the reason why we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it is because Rebecca loose So she was David

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<v Speaker 2>Beckham's assistant. She was only twenty six years old at

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<v Speaker 2>the time this. Now this has gone back twenty years ago,

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<v Speaker 2>so long ago. She is the one who shared their affair.

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<v Speaker 2>She shared the scandal around the fact that he was

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<v Speaker 2>having an extramarital affair when he was playing for Real Madrid.

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<v Speaker 2>He was in Spain and Posh Spice at the time

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<v Speaker 2>was still calling it so Victoria at the time was

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<v Speaker 2>living in England. The thing that's so interesting about this

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<v Speaker 2>and the reason why I wanted to talk about it,

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<v Speaker 2>brit And you kind of mentioned it just before you

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<v Speaker 2>sort of said like it gives us an insight into

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<v Speaker 2>these people. We see a different part of their lives,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have more access to them. I guess that

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<v Speaker 2>that's the thing about a memoir, right, You don't actually

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<v Speaker 2>get more access to them. You don't actually understand more

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<v Speaker 2>about their lives. You understand the version of their life

0:20:58.119 --> 0:21:00.720
<v Speaker 2>in which they want you to understand. They're showing you

0:21:01.119 --> 0:21:03.880
<v Speaker 2>their story, they're showing you it's still their highlight reel totally.

0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.600
<v Speaker 2>And it's also this concept around like David Beckham is

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<v Speaker 2>sharing his truth, but just because it's his truth doesn't

0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:13.080
<v Speaker 2>make it the truth. So Rebecca Loose came out and

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, we had an affair. She copped so

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<v Speaker 2>much backlash and I think a disproportionate and unfair amount.

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<v Speaker 2>She definitely sold her story, she definitely profited off it,

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<v Speaker 2>But at the time, she wasn't the one who had

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<v Speaker 2>any sort of power. She wasn't a public figure, she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have the platform in which David Beckham had. But

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<v Speaker 2>and she was also his employee and a lot younger

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<v Speaker 2>than him as well.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm also completely on her side for coming out

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<v Speaker 1>and selling her story. The reason she sold her story

0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:42.960
<v Speaker 1>she didn't have an affair with him, run off and

0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:45.160
<v Speaker 1>sells story. It was all a big secret. She would

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<v Speaker 1>from all accounts, she would have taken that to the grave.

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<v Speaker 1>The story was coming out, and she knew that. They

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<v Speaker 1>told her story's breaking. Do you have a comment, So

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<v Speaker 1>she thought, well, fuck, Alicia, can come from me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to control if it's coming out anyway, A going

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<v Speaker 1>to control it.

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<v Speaker 3>B as I.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have two options, you're going to put your

0:22:04.240 --> 0:22:05.840
<v Speaker 1>comment out there for free, or you put your comment

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<v Speaker 1>out there for money.

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<v Speaker 2>You're putting it out there for money, one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would have done exactly the same thing if

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<v Speaker 1>someone has come to me and said this is coming

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<v Speaker 1>out regardless, you're going to control it.

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<v Speaker 2>In any way that you post, like if I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>down with his sinking shit, your fucking pain for a HUNDI.

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<v Speaker 1>But I feel for her in that sense because people

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about the reason. They say, oh, she sold

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<v Speaker 1>a story. Of course she did, but it was coming

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<v Speaker 1>out regardless. It's not like she wasn't the vixen that

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<v Speaker 1>seduced David Beckham allegedly and then ran away and tried

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<v Speaker 1>to profit off.

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<v Speaker 3>That wasn't it at all.

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<v Speaker 1>It actually sounds like and when she speaks about it,

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<v Speaker 1>actually sounds like she cared a lot about him, because

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<v Speaker 1>they had this work relationship first, and then they became

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<v Speaker 1>very close as friends, and then the affair apparently lasted

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<v Speaker 1>sporadically for about four months.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think she genuinely had feelings for him, Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>no doubt.

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<v Speaker 1>She speaks about this one other time where they were

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<v Speaker 1>at this big party and Victoria couldn't get a hold

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<v Speaker 1>of David.

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<v Speaker 3>So Victoria calls Rebecca and says, go and find him

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<v Speaker 3>right now.

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<v Speaker 1>He's answering his phone and she's like, Okay, I'll find

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<v Speaker 1>him and tell him to call you, and she goes, no,

0:23:07.240 --> 0:23:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I'll stay on the phone. And so Rebecca had to

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<v Speaker 1>go through this huge party. She finally saw David's security

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<v Speaker 1>guards outside a bedroom door and she had with Victoria

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<v Speaker 1>on the phone and she's mouthing.

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<v Speaker 3>To the security it's Victoria.

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:22.399
<v Speaker 1>And they went in and got him, and when the

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<v Speaker 1>door was open, there was like some beautiful model in

0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:25.520
<v Speaker 1>there with him.

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<v Speaker 3>She didn't see them doing anything, but they were on

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<v Speaker 3>a bed.

0:23:27.800 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 1>And she says that moment even hurt her, like her

0:23:30.640 --> 0:23:32.760
<v Speaker 1>she was the mistress and it hurt her so that

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<v Speaker 1>was you know, who knows allegedly how many times? Allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>who knows allegedly how many times it happened. But the

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<v Speaker 1>reason Laura and I are having this discussion and the

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<v Speaker 1>whole world is, I guess, is because in the documentary,

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<v Speaker 1>David doesn't lie, but he tells a story that is

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<v Speaker 1>so ambiguous about how it came out in the news

0:23:50.920 --> 0:23:53.679
<v Speaker 1>and how it affected him and it hurt him so

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:57.679
<v Speaker 1>much to see Victoria hurting, which is all true, but

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:01.040
<v Speaker 1>he makes it sound like the media telling tall tales

0:24:01.040 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 1>and it never happened. He makes it sound like Rebecca's

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<v Speaker 1>line without saying to me this, mind you, it was

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<v Speaker 1>so carefully crafted by pr that delivery of those few

0:24:09.200 --> 0:24:12.200
<v Speaker 1>sentences that there's nothing you can take from it at all.

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<v Speaker 3>It was such a pile of horseshit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going to say, I mean it was the

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<v Speaker 2>part of the docu series that I was like, you

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:21.720
<v Speaker 2>have lost me. Now the reason for that is he

0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:24.280
<v Speaker 2>still won me, and that's why they're so good. But

0:24:24.359 --> 0:24:26.560
<v Speaker 2>he lost me because this is what I meant by

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<v Speaker 2>the earlier when I said I was so critical and

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<v Speaker 2>analyzing it, So I mean, I don't have any affinity

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<v Speaker 2>for football. I obviously enjoyed them within like the pop

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.480
<v Speaker 2>culture space when I was young, because they were just

0:24:37.480 --> 0:24:41.119
<v Speaker 2>this aspirational, incredible couple. I remember when the affairs broke

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<v Speaker 2>and I remember thinking, oh wow, they're going to get divorced,

0:24:44.160 --> 0:24:46.320
<v Speaker 2>like that's their relationship over. And I think it came

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<v Speaker 2>as a surprise to everyone that that's not what happened.

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.240
<v Speaker 2>The thing I took I guess a bit of issue

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<v Speaker 2>with and the reason why. I think it's completely fair

0:24:53.840 --> 0:24:56.320
<v Speaker 2>that Rebecca Loose twenty years later has come back out

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<v Speaker 2>and said is because of the way he's framed it

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:01.800
<v Speaker 2>within the series, which is to take zero accountability and

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:03.919
<v Speaker 2>to make everyone feel sorry for him. This is what

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:04.880
<v Speaker 2>Rebecca had to say.

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<v Speaker 4>He is making himself a victim, and he's making me

0:25:08.800 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 4>look like the liar. He's making me look like I've made.

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:12.640
<v Speaker 2>Up these horrible stories.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the one that's made Victoria's suffer. Poor him, He's

0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 4>had nothing to do with this, and it was so awful.

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 4>I think it's one thing if you don't want to

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<v Speaker 4>take responsibility for things at home because of your family

0:25:22.119 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 4>and your children, that's absolutely fine. And if he hadn't

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.440
<v Speaker 4>even mentioned any of that and just said it was

0:25:27.480 --> 0:25:29.879
<v Speaker 4>a tough time for us and moved on. I wouldn't

0:25:29.920 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 4>be here today. The stories were horrible, true, And he's

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:35.359
<v Speaker 4>the one who's responsible for all of this, is the

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 4>one who's responsible for.

0:25:36.440 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 2>His wife suffering.

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:39.399
<v Speaker 3>He's the one that decides to lie to her to say.

0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:40.840
<v Speaker 1>We don't have to tell my wife. He's made all

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:41.520
<v Speaker 1>those choices.

0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:45.760
<v Speaker 2>The whole conversation around it. It went for a very

0:25:45.800 --> 0:25:48.600
<v Speaker 2>short period of time. It was like maybe five minutes

0:25:48.720 --> 0:25:51.520
<v Speaker 2>or ten minutes of that entire episode. Even though they're like, oh,

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:54.719
<v Speaker 2>episode four is the great affair episode, it was really

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:57.439
<v Speaker 2>the redemption It wasn't. It was a tiny blip of

0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:00.480
<v Speaker 2>the redemption arc that is making everyone fall in love

0:26:00.520 --> 0:26:03.399
<v Speaker 2>with David Beckham. If you watched it, you may have

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:06.639
<v Speaker 2>noticed this. At no point did he deny having an affair.

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:09.280
<v Speaker 2>At no point did he say I didn't have an affair.

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:12.399
<v Speaker 2>All he said was that it was very very hard

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:17.040
<v Speaker 2>for him and for Victoria when the publication started writing

0:26:17.119 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 2>the things that they were writing, and it was an

0:26:18.600 --> 0:26:22.320
<v Speaker 2>incredibly challenging time and he hated watching Victorias suffered and

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:25.679
<v Speaker 2>he suffered, but they made it through it he doesn't

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 2>know how he shed a tear. And then he said,

0:26:28.000 --> 0:26:30.360
<v Speaker 2>because we're both fighters, that's how we made our way

0:26:30.400 --> 0:26:33.159
<v Speaker 2>through it. So I would go as far as saying

0:26:33.240 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 2>that he admits fault without admitting fault, Yes, because he knows.

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:39.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's so much proof out there that he

0:26:39.960 --> 0:26:42.320
<v Speaker 2>did have affairs. There's so many women who claimed that

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.240
<v Speaker 2>they had affairs with him, and also obviously Rebecca Luce

0:26:45.280 --> 0:26:46.959
<v Speaker 2>who has come forward and said that she has all

0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:49.560
<v Speaker 2>the text messages, she has all of the proof. But

0:26:49.680 --> 0:26:52.280
<v Speaker 2>he danced around it in such a careful way. And

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:54.400
<v Speaker 2>I guess my only part of this where I was like, look,

0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:56.480
<v Speaker 2>it's his memoir. He's allowed to say and do whatever

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:58.439
<v Speaker 2>he wants to, and the whole purpose of this is

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:00.879
<v Speaker 2>to frame him in a certain way. But I think,

0:27:01.119 --> 0:27:03.679
<v Speaker 2>all these years later, this woman, who still has no

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 2>public profile, she is now living a relatively normal life

0:27:07.280 --> 0:27:09.600
<v Speaker 2>with her husband and her children, to be dragged back

0:27:09.640 --> 0:27:12.480
<v Speaker 2>into the media sphere. Even though he didn't directly name her,

0:27:12.760 --> 0:27:15.439
<v Speaker 2>she still indirectly gets dragged back into it, and I

0:27:15.440 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 2>think it's kind of almost unfair how it blows her

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 2>life back into a time and a situation twenty years later,

0:27:22.520 --> 0:27:24.920
<v Speaker 2>and the only motive of that is to make him

0:27:24.960 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 2>look like he's fucking amazing.

0:27:26.680 --> 0:27:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, she said, so many people had forgotten about

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>all of this. So many people put all this behind them,

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.560
<v Speaker 1>the whole affair, the scandal and everything, and he has

0:27:34.680 --> 0:27:36.520
<v Speaker 1>dragged it back up again in a way that is

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.439
<v Speaker 1>affecting my reputation. I think if he was going to

0:27:39.480 --> 0:27:41.800
<v Speaker 1>touch on this time and how difficult it was, it

0:27:41.800 --> 0:27:43.960
<v Speaker 1>would have been really nice for him to have said

0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>it was not my proudest moment, which absolutely agree with.

0:27:48.080 --> 0:27:52.240
<v Speaker 1>It's completely not fair on her because this is now

0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 1>the most watched thing on Netflix.

0:27:54.200 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 3>He has eighty five million followers.

0:27:57.520 --> 0:28:00.240
<v Speaker 1>Even if she does respond properly, it doesn't it's it's

0:28:00.280 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the power and balance. She doesn't have the right of

0:28:02.680 --> 0:28:05.439
<v Speaker 1>reply that he does. It's really unfair to bring this

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:07.080
<v Speaker 1>back up into her life. And she said she she

0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:10.080
<v Speaker 1>literally moved away from any city she moved to, like

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:11.479
<v Speaker 1>Norway or something in the mountains.

0:28:11.480 --> 0:28:13.040
<v Speaker 3>She lives in a mountain. She's a yoga teacher.

0:28:13.240 --> 0:28:15.399
<v Speaker 1>She removed herself from that life and now she's been

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>thrown back into it. Which is fine if he's going

0:28:19.320 --> 0:28:21.719
<v Speaker 1>to tell the whole story An example of what he

0:28:21.760 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 1>could have done and owned it, and this person still

0:28:23.960 --> 0:28:26.800
<v Speaker 1>came out on top is Arnold Schwarzenegger. I don't know

0:28:26.800 --> 0:28:29.280
<v Speaker 1>if you watched the documentary I recommended Laura like it

0:28:29.320 --> 0:28:31.120
<v Speaker 1>was one of my vibes, like a month or two ago.

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:32.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if anyone else watched it.

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>But he completely owned his affair in his documentary. He

0:28:35.400 --> 0:28:38.080
<v Speaker 1>owned it to the point of like, yes, I did this.

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:42.440
<v Speaker 1>It was horrific. Baby, No, I know, but he didn't

0:28:42.480 --> 0:28:44.800
<v Speaker 1>have to talk about it. The evidence is walking around,

0:28:45.040 --> 0:28:47.920
<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't matter. Everyone knows David Beckham did right,

0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:50.640
<v Speaker 1>like allegedly, but it's the same thing right.

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 2>He didn't have to.

0:28:51.400 --> 0:28:53.400
<v Speaker 1>He could have said one thing on Swarzenegger. He could

0:28:53.440 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 1>have said, like, you know, I made a mistake and

0:28:55.800 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>then moved on, But he didn't. He actually spoke about it,

0:28:57.920 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 1>how much he hurt his family, how it was the

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>worst thing he would have ever done. It changed his

0:29:01.640 --> 0:29:04.040
<v Speaker 1>whole life for the worst. I just loved that he

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:06.600
<v Speaker 1>owned it. He still came out on top because people

0:29:07.280 --> 0:29:11.400
<v Speaker 1>love somebody owning up to a mistake. Try and understand

0:29:11.440 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 1>why we're all human, Because we are human, right, everybody

0:29:14.080 --> 0:29:15.760
<v Speaker 1>does make mistakes, but it's the way you handle it

0:29:15.800 --> 0:29:18.720
<v Speaker 1>after and I think that was where David went wrong.

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 2>And I agree, and I think in that moment, and

0:29:21.680 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I might be the minority in this for anyone who's

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:26.680
<v Speaker 2>seen the series, it made me like him less because

0:29:26.680 --> 0:29:30.120
<v Speaker 2>there was zero accountability that was taken, and if anything,

0:29:30.160 --> 0:29:32.800
<v Speaker 2>there was so much work and so much dialogue that

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 2>was put into framing him as the victim in terms

0:29:35.240 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 2>of saying things like when I was in England, I

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.280
<v Speaker 2>came home to my family, I came home to my stability.

0:29:40.560 --> 0:29:43.160
<v Speaker 2>But when I was playing for Real Madrid, they weren't

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:45.160
<v Speaker 2>there and I didn't come home to anyone, and so

0:29:45.560 --> 0:29:49.959
<v Speaker 2>it was so hard for me. There was zero accountability taken,

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:52.720
<v Speaker 2>even though it was implied that the cheating happened. And

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty years on from that, I just think, if you're

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:57.440
<v Speaker 2>going to talk about it, you have to have the

0:29:57.440 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 2>maturity to accept it and not to try and in

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:03.240
<v Speaker 2>those moments completely frame yourself as a victim when clearly

0:30:03.280 --> 0:30:06.600
<v Speaker 2>your actions hurt so many other people. And at the moment,

0:30:06.640 --> 0:30:09.040
<v Speaker 2>there is still this woman, Rebecca Loose, who's going to

0:30:09.040 --> 0:30:11.240
<v Speaker 2>be brought back into it, even though she wasn't directly

0:30:11.320 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 2>named her name and her story. We was so front

0:30:15.080 --> 0:30:17.240
<v Speaker 2>and center of the media attention at that point in

0:30:17.320 --> 0:30:19.600
<v Speaker 2>time that there is no way she wasn't going to

0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:22.720
<v Speaker 2>be dragged back up. In this instance, this conversation around

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 2>David Beckham kind of led us into another topic, which

0:30:25.680 --> 0:30:28.440
<v Speaker 2>was the Britney Spears book that's coming out very soon.

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:31.360
<v Speaker 3>Everyone's right, in a memoir you also haven't noticed.

0:30:31.160 --> 0:30:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Yet, But I wore double Denham today because I knew

0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:37.239
<v Speaker 1>we were speaking about Britney Spears and justin Timberlake in an

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:38.840
<v Speaker 1>ode to their relationship.

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:40.960
<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Thank you so much. I'm sorry that I didn't,

0:30:40.960 --> 0:30:44.160
<v Speaker 2>otherwise we could have been all right. Well, look the

0:30:44.200 --> 0:30:46.840
<v Speaker 2>reason I say this whole conversation around like memoirs, who

0:30:46.880 --> 0:30:50.480
<v Speaker 2>owns the story, the redemption arc, the reframing of the

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.480
<v Speaker 2>history in terms of the way media sees you. But

0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.520
<v Speaker 2>what happened here and what you might have seen is

0:30:56.640 --> 0:30:59.600
<v Speaker 2>over the last couple of days a part of Britney

0:30:59.600 --> 0:31:02.440
<v Speaker 2>Spears upcoming memoir has been released, and that is the

0:31:02.480 --> 0:31:05.640
<v Speaker 2>story that she had an abortion. The father of that

0:31:05.760 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 2>child was justin Timberlake. Now, the little bits and pieces

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 2>in the information that we've been given in terms of

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 2>what's been leaked by I'm guessing the publishing company, is

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:17.800
<v Speaker 2>that Brittany didn't want to have an abortion. She wanted

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:20.760
<v Speaker 2>to keep the baby, but the people in her sphere

0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:22.800
<v Speaker 2>wanted her to have an abortion. Also, you've got to

0:31:22.800 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 2>remember that her brand at the time was based off

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 2>being virginal. She was basically the pin up girl of

0:31:29.440 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 2>being a Christian icon. And it's come out that Justin Timblake,

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.360
<v Speaker 2>who was also super young at the time, he didn't

0:31:35.400 --> 0:31:37.040
<v Speaker 2>want to be a father yet because he felt as

0:31:37.080 --> 0:31:39.280
<v Speaker 2>though he was too young. So that is kind of

0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:41.479
<v Speaker 2>all the information that's come out on it. But there

0:31:41.520 --> 0:31:44.200
<v Speaker 2>has been a lot of conversation across media, and that

0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 2>conversation has been is it her story to tell? Because

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Justin hasn't shared that he was part of this, He

0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.320
<v Speaker 2>hasn't shared that he was the father, and is it

0:31:53.360 --> 0:31:56.760
<v Speaker 2>completely just her story to talk about this and to

0:31:56.840 --> 0:32:00.600
<v Speaker 2>share that part of the information about him without his consent,

0:32:01.160 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 2>especially without the context of the book, so that people

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 2>can't you know, we've got this little bit of information,

0:32:06.080 --> 0:32:07.800
<v Speaker 2>but you can't go and read the book and actually

0:32:07.800 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>get the full story yet, so it leaves people to

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:13.040
<v Speaker 2>make up their own opinions and minds before the point

0:32:13.080 --> 0:32:14.520
<v Speaker 2>is that they can actually get all the information.

0:32:14.800 --> 0:32:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Well, you can actually read it today. It is out

0:32:17.080 --> 0:32:21.160
<v Speaker 1>today October twenty one. Dum Unlike Data Pinkett Smith, she

0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.560
<v Speaker 1>has just given a few little tidbits, like she's just

0:32:23.840 --> 0:32:25.760
<v Speaker 1>released a little bit, Whereas I feel like for Jada,

0:32:25.840 --> 0:32:27.640
<v Speaker 1>she's really so much that you don't need to probably

0:32:27.680 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>buy it anymore.

0:32:28.320 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 2>I feel like you've read the book totally.

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>She's done so many interviews, but Brittany has just put

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:35.160
<v Speaker 1>enough out that people are like, fuck, I want to

0:32:35.200 --> 0:32:37.520
<v Speaker 1>know more before we unpack this a little bit more.

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:41.160
<v Speaker 1>What Brittany wrote is it was a surprise, But for me,

0:32:41.440 --> 0:32:44.360
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a tragedy. I loved Justin so much. I

0:32:44.480 --> 0:32:47.280
<v Speaker 1>always expected us to have a family together one day.

0:32:47.400 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 1>This would just be much earlier than I'd anticipated. But

0:32:50.640 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Justin definitely wasn't happy about the pregnancy. He said we

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.160
<v Speaker 1>weren't ready to have a baby in our lives, that

0:32:56.200 --> 0:32:58.800
<v Speaker 1>we were way too young. If it had been left

0:32:58.840 --> 0:33:01.280
<v Speaker 1>up to me alone, I would never have done it.

0:33:01.520 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>And yet Justin was just so sure that he didn't

0:33:04.120 --> 0:33:06.280
<v Speaker 1>want to be a father. To this day, it is

0:33:06.320 --> 0:33:09.320
<v Speaker 1>one of the most agonizing things I have ever experienced

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.640
<v Speaker 1>in my life. Now, they started dating at seventeen and eighteen,

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:14.920
<v Speaker 1>and they only dated for three to four years, so

0:33:15.040 --> 0:33:17.200
<v Speaker 1>it had to have been in that time, like very

0:33:17.440 --> 0:33:21.120
<v Speaker 1>very early twenties. Yeah, And the way she's framed it

0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.360
<v Speaker 1>is she did it for him, but this was his

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:25.840
<v Speaker 1>doing and his ideas. So she's made it sound like

0:33:26.120 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 1>I didn't want to do it and he made me

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:29.959
<v Speaker 1>feel like I had to do it, which is a

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:32.120
<v Speaker 1>pretty big call to put out to the world when

0:33:32.160 --> 0:33:33.680
<v Speaker 1>you're going to be probably one of the most followed

0:33:33.680 --> 0:33:34.560
<v Speaker 1>people in the world.

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they're also I mean, there is actually more

0:33:37.200 --> 0:33:39.480
<v Speaker 2>of this conversation that's been released, So there was conversation

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 2>around the fact that she used the abortion pill because

0:33:42.360 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 2>she couldn't go and see or be recognized, so she

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>couldn't go to a hospital, she couldn't go to a

0:33:47.440 --> 0:33:50.320
<v Speaker 2>doctor's It had to be done with such secrecy. She

0:33:50.400 --> 0:33:52.840
<v Speaker 2>actually didn't tell her family, so I think it was

0:33:52.960 --> 0:33:54.760
<v Speaker 2>in terms of what's actually been released so far, the

0:33:54.840 --> 0:33:57.440
<v Speaker 2>only people that he knew was justin So they did

0:33:57.440 --> 0:34:00.880
<v Speaker 2>it together. And I guess my question is, and I

0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:04.960
<v Speaker 2>guess this specifically comes down to this event is who

0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.319
<v Speaker 2>owns the story? Because a memoir allows you to tell

0:34:08.360 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 2>your story. It allows you, like I said, to tell

0:34:10.200 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 2>your truth. Whether it is the truth or not, it

0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.879
<v Speaker 2>is your truth, and it allows you to frame your

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.520
<v Speaker 2>opinion about whoever it is that's on the receiving end

0:34:18.560 --> 0:34:20.520
<v Speaker 2>of that or whoever else, What are the other characters

0:34:20.560 --> 0:34:23.319
<v Speaker 2>play a role in your story? And so this is

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 2>obviously Britney's experience, it's what she lived through. I think

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:30.239
<v Speaker 2>it's important to talk about an abortion. I think it's

0:34:30.239 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 2>important to talk about women's choices. It's important to talk

0:34:33.360 --> 0:34:35.640
<v Speaker 2>about what we go through. I don't condemn that by

0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.560
<v Speaker 2>any means, but what is your opinion, brit In terms

0:34:38.560 --> 0:34:41.880
<v Speaker 2>of talking about abortion when the other person hasn't consented

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 2>to their name being thrown in the mix. I think

0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:44.399
<v Speaker 2>it's a.

0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Really tricky one.

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:48.600
<v Speaker 1>And the reason I say that is Britney's Bee's story

0:34:48.880 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 1>isn't a normal story. She's not a normal person. She

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't in a normal relationship to start with. She has

0:34:54.520 --> 0:34:58.200
<v Speaker 1>been in a conservativeship for thirteen years. She is one

0:34:58.239 --> 0:35:00.279
<v Speaker 1>of the most famous people in the World's had her

0:35:00.360 --> 0:35:03.279
<v Speaker 1>voice silenced for a long time. And nobody will ever

0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>be able to relate to that. She's been free now,

0:35:06.200 --> 0:35:10.000
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote free for two years, and she wants to speak,

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>and she is entitled to speak. It is her body,

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.879
<v Speaker 1>it is her story, it is her choice. She can

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.719
<v Speaker 1>do whatever she wants with that. I absolutely agree on that.

0:35:18.800 --> 0:35:22.320
<v Speaker 1>But where it gets tricky for me is I genuinely

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:25.480
<v Speaker 1>believe it's also his story just because it doesn't physically

0:35:25.520 --> 0:35:28.319
<v Speaker 1>happen to him. I know, with an abortion, it's the

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:31.320
<v Speaker 1>woman that goes through so much and it's her body

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:33.600
<v Speaker 1>that changes, and it's the mental load that she carries.

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.320
<v Speaker 1>But I think would be wrong of us to say

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:38.839
<v Speaker 1>that it is not also the man's story. Obviously he

0:35:38.920 --> 0:35:42.480
<v Speaker 1>has no control over that. His body isn't traumatized, his

0:35:42.520 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 1>body isn't going through the same thing, he's not having

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:47.879
<v Speaker 1>the hormones. But mentally, it's still his child and he's

0:35:47.920 --> 0:35:50.400
<v Speaker 1>still contributed, so it's his story as well. And this

0:35:50.440 --> 0:35:52.520
<v Speaker 1>is where I find it difficult. I don't have a

0:35:52.520 --> 0:35:54.960
<v Speaker 1>problem with Brittany telling her story because I think it's

0:35:54.960 --> 0:35:57.440
<v Speaker 1>an important part of who she is and what happened

0:35:57.440 --> 0:36:01.440
<v Speaker 1>to her. I do wonder if there was any conversation

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>privately between Brittany and Justin or their teams, their managements, whoever.

0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I wonder if there was any discussion as a heads

0:36:07.200 --> 0:36:10.040
<v Speaker 1>up that it's coming out. I can only imagine, and

0:36:10.080 --> 0:36:12.120
<v Speaker 1>again we don't fucking know, like we're not there, we

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:14.719
<v Speaker 1>don't know their stories. But I can only imagine it's

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.319
<v Speaker 1>still bringing something up for him in some capacity. But

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there's anyone that can sit there, Well,

0:36:19.920 --> 0:36:22.120
<v Speaker 1>there will be, but I don't think people can sit

0:36:22.160 --> 0:36:23.239
<v Speaker 1>there and say she should.

0:36:23.000 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 3>Never have said that, that wasn't hers to share.

0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:26.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's why I asked the question, because it has

0:36:26.719 --> 0:36:30.000
<v Speaker 2>been super divisive. I don't think it's intentionally trying to

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:31.960
<v Speaker 2>frame him as a bad person or as a villain

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.080
<v Speaker 2>in the narrative. But obviously, you know, if she's telling

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 2>her memoir and she's saying what happened to her in

0:36:37.560 --> 0:36:40.919
<v Speaker 2>that period of life, then even if she doesn't name

0:36:41.080 --> 0:36:43.360
<v Speaker 2>Justin Timberlake, it's pretty obvious who is going to be

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:45.799
<v Speaker 2>the father, Unless if she doesn't name him and she

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 2>says she had an abortion and she says she doesn't

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.239
<v Speaker 2>want to say who it was, either people are going

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:51.920
<v Speaker 2>to read between the lines or they're going to think

0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.239
<v Speaker 2>that she cheated, right, so it kind of is part

0:36:54.280 --> 0:36:57.239
<v Speaker 2>and parcel of her telling her story. That brings me

0:36:57.320 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 2>back to this whole conversation of like who owns a memoir?

0:37:00.239 --> 0:37:03.759
<v Speaker 2>Because so many other people's stories are entwined in your

0:37:03.800 --> 0:37:05.759
<v Speaker 2>life story, right, like the things that happened to us

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:08.960
<v Speaker 2>individually with there are so many other characters and players

0:37:09.000 --> 0:37:11.839
<v Speaker 2>in this. I guess the reason why I feel very

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:15.920
<v Speaker 2>differently about Britney Spears sharing her abortion story and I

0:37:16.000 --> 0:37:20.120
<v Speaker 2>don't have this like overwhelming sympathy for Justin Timberlake. I'm like, well,

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.480
<v Speaker 2>yes it happened, she's telling her version of it, and

0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.160
<v Speaker 2>it's unfortunate that you didn't want that to come to

0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.160
<v Speaker 2>public light, but it has. And that's part and parcel

0:37:29.200 --> 0:37:32.040
<v Speaker 2>of the fact that you're both public figures. You both

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:36.480
<v Speaker 2>have incredibly powerful platforms to communicate your stories on. I

0:37:36.520 --> 0:37:38.640
<v Speaker 2>guess I come from it from a very different perspective

0:37:38.680 --> 0:37:41.239
<v Speaker 2>in that I think it is so important to talk

0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 2>about abortion because I think for so long men have

0:37:45.200 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 2>been able to benefit from the anonymity of it and

0:37:49.680 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 2>women experience it. And then we saw everything that happened

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:54.720
<v Speaker 2>with bro v Wade, where there are so many females

0:37:54.719 --> 0:37:57.400
<v Speaker 2>who are campaigning against it, and women are being villainized

0:37:57.400 --> 0:37:59.920
<v Speaker 2>for doing it. But the reality is so many men,

0:38:00.600 --> 0:38:03.359
<v Speaker 2>so many powerful men, so many successful men, so many

0:38:03.360 --> 0:38:06.879
<v Speaker 2>not powerful men and not successful men have benefited from

0:38:06.880 --> 0:38:10.560
<v Speaker 2>women having abortions. And so I guess for me, I'm like,

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 2>I think that the story lays more heavily with her

0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.960
<v Speaker 2>because it did happen to her body, because it was

0:38:17.000 --> 0:38:19.879
<v Speaker 2>something that she experienced, and by all sounds of it,

0:38:19.880 --> 0:38:22.040
<v Speaker 2>it wasn't what she wanted, but she felt like she

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:24.440
<v Speaker 2>had to do it because she didn't have the support

0:38:24.480 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 2>structures around her to allow her for any other option.

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:29.239
<v Speaker 1>But then, how do we feel if we flip that

0:38:29.360 --> 0:38:30.239
<v Speaker 1>narrative on its head?

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:32.600
<v Speaker 3>How do we feel if we never heard.

0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>From Britney and Justin Timberlake came out and said we

0:38:36.440 --> 0:38:39.680
<v Speaker 1>had an abortion when we were nineteen Britney Speers had

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:41.880
<v Speaker 1>an abortion, if he had told that story, how.

0:38:41.719 --> 0:38:44.200
<v Speaker 2>Do we feel? I feel differently because I think when

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:46.160
<v Speaker 2>it comes to abortion, I think the majority of the

0:38:46.160 --> 0:38:49.160
<v Speaker 2>story lays with the female. I maybe the minority in

0:38:49.200 --> 0:38:51.759
<v Speaker 2>thinking that, you know, that might be controversial. People out

0:38:51.800 --> 0:38:53.799
<v Speaker 2>there who have experienced one might think that it is

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:57.279
<v Speaker 2>a shared experience. But I would say that if it's

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 2>happening to your body, it is major oratively your experience.

0:39:01.760 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 2>Even if it emotionally affects the other person, it physically

0:39:05.320 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>and emotionally affects you. And so therefore I think if

0:39:08.000 --> 0:39:09.680
<v Speaker 2>you want to talk about it, you can talk about it.

0:39:10.040 --> 0:39:12.319
<v Speaker 1>And I guess that's where I have trouble, because I still

0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:14.040
<v Speaker 1>think it's the man's story as well. I know a

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 1>lot of men that have gone through that that has

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:18.880
<v Speaker 1>really affected them, and are we to say that just

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:23.440
<v Speaker 1>because it wasn't in their body, that it's not their story.

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>That's where I find it really like a thin line,

0:39:26.920 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>like a thin tight rope to walk on.

0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 3>I agree with you.

0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:31.959
<v Speaker 1>If he told the story and Brittany didn't, it would

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.760
<v Speaker 1>be a completely different story from the public's perspective.

0:39:34.840 --> 0:39:36.920
<v Speaker 2>And I guess it also depends on the person's experience

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 2>as to whether they feel like that person is entitled

0:39:39.760 --> 0:39:42.400
<v Speaker 2>to the secrecy or not. There's going to be an

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:44.200
<v Speaker 2>instance where some people are going to have an abortion

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 2>and they felt completely supported by their partners and it

0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.280
<v Speaker 2>was a mutual decision that was gone into with mutual

0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:52.000
<v Speaker 2>respect and validation towards each other. There are going to

0:39:52.000 --> 0:39:54.319
<v Speaker 2>be women who had abortions and they didn't feel like

0:39:54.360 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 2>they had that support or that mutual respect and validation.

0:39:57.520 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 2>In which case is that person who who is the

0:40:01.120 --> 0:40:05.400
<v Speaker 2>participant in that pregnancy? Are they entitled to the anonymity?

0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:07.520
<v Speaker 2>And I guess that that's probably the big conversation that

0:40:07.560 --> 0:40:10.120
<v Speaker 2>this comes down to, is that she didn't feel supported,

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:12.280
<v Speaker 2>she didn't feel like she got to make the decision

0:40:12.280 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 2>that she wanted to make, and therefore she wants to

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:17.360
<v Speaker 2>talk about it. And for me, when it comes to abortion,

0:40:17.600 --> 0:40:20.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the pendulum needs to swing. People need to

0:40:20.920 --> 0:40:23.319
<v Speaker 2>be speaking about it because the only reason why we

0:40:23.360 --> 0:40:26.760
<v Speaker 2>don't is because it is shrouded in shame. It's shrouded

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:30.480
<v Speaker 2>in this moral dilemma, and so by speaking about it

0:40:30.480 --> 0:40:32.800
<v Speaker 2>it kind of starts to remove that and break that down.

0:40:33.040 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think the difference is, and I said it before,

0:40:35.400 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 1>is that it's because Britney Spears and Justin Timberlake are

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>a different kettle of fish. It's different to a normal

0:40:41.880 --> 0:40:43.799
<v Speaker 1>everyday woman that works in nine to five that doesn't

0:40:43.800 --> 0:40:45.640
<v Speaker 1>have a public profile. It's different to her going to

0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:48.319
<v Speaker 1>her friends on the Saturday night and saying, hey, guys,

0:40:48.360 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I had an abortion.

0:40:49.320 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about it.

0:40:50.520 --> 0:40:52.879
<v Speaker 1>Do you have to go and get the consent from

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:55.680
<v Speaker 1>your partner or your ex or whoever? It was No,

0:40:55.880 --> 0:40:58.920
<v Speaker 1>because it's a really trusted, tight knit community with Britney

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Spears and Justin Timberlay. There is not going to be

0:41:02.120 --> 0:41:04.600
<v Speaker 1>one media outlet in the world that is not talking

0:41:04.600 --> 0:41:05.040
<v Speaker 1>about it.

0:41:05.160 --> 0:41:06.920
<v Speaker 3>So it does hit on a different level.

0:41:07.120 --> 0:41:09.920
<v Speaker 1>If Justin had no warning that that was even coming,

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:11.960
<v Speaker 1>who knows how that could affect him because it's not

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.440
<v Speaker 1>coming from one person. It's not coming from a friend

0:41:14.440 --> 0:41:16.839
<v Speaker 1>that's like, hey, Britney said you had an abortion. This

0:41:17.360 --> 0:41:22.120
<v Speaker 1>is going to be such a hugely publicized event, a

0:41:22.160 --> 0:41:25.120
<v Speaker 1>media storm, and there will be a pylon. It's going

0:41:25.160 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>to have backlash. So all I think when I look

0:41:27.920 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>at this situation is sure she could tell it, but

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I would hope maybe there was just a heads up

0:41:34.239 --> 0:41:35.719
<v Speaker 1>from the team, Like it doesn't have to be a

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:38.359
<v Speaker 1>written permission, but like I feel like, and we don't

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.560
<v Speaker 1>know because we don't know the situation, but I feel

0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:43.279
<v Speaker 1>like maybe a courtesy thing of it is happening just

0:41:43.320 --> 0:41:45.400
<v Speaker 1>so you know, like this is coming out, just so

0:41:45.440 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>you know.

0:41:45.760 --> 0:41:47.799
<v Speaker 2>I guess like she's such a unique case, and like,

0:41:47.800 --> 0:41:49.759
<v Speaker 2>there's definitely two ways you can talk about this. You

0:41:49.800 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 2>can talk about it how we feel about it in

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:53.400
<v Speaker 2>general as a conversation, or you can talk about it

0:41:53.440 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 2>specifically with Britney Spears. The only thing that I want

0:41:56.640 --> 0:41:58.399
<v Speaker 2>to say and add to this in terms of her

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:03.120
<v Speaker 2>specific story is she was demonized by Justin Timberlake when

0:42:03.200 --> 0:42:05.560
<v Speaker 2>he wrote the song crime a River and his film

0:42:05.560 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 2>clip had an actress in it that was meant to

0:42:07.600 --> 0:42:09.520
<v Speaker 2>look like Britney Spears. It was meant to be a

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:13.320
<v Speaker 2>representation of her, and he made her be the villain.

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 2>He destroyed her good girl persona by being very public

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:18.839
<v Speaker 2>about the fact that she had cheated on him, she'd

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:21.400
<v Speaker 2>kissed someone else. In this book, she's come out to

0:42:21.400 --> 0:42:23.239
<v Speaker 2>say that, you know, he also cheated on her, And

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 2>so I guess this is her way of explaining what

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:30.320
<v Speaker 2>she experienced in that period of her life to also

0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:33.280
<v Speaker 2>try and reframe the fact that she wasn't the villain

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:35.120
<v Speaker 2>and the fact that she was a nineteen year old

0:42:35.200 --> 0:42:37.920
<v Speaker 2>girl who went through so much and yet at the

0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.080
<v Speaker 2>end of it was made to look like she was

0:42:40.120 --> 0:42:42.240
<v Speaker 2>such an awful, horrible person.

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:44.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, at the end of the day, there were kids.

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:48.600
<v Speaker 1>I did see a PR expert come out just these

0:42:48.680 --> 0:42:51.280
<v Speaker 1>last couple of days since this excert has dropped, saying,

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 1>basically saying, from her expert opinion, she's a Hollywood PR expert,

0:42:55.840 --> 0:42:58.520
<v Speaker 1>Justin has to respond. She's like, there is no way

0:42:58.640 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 1>out of this. Silent doesn't exist. He's going to have

0:43:01.960 --> 0:43:04.200
<v Speaker 1>to make a statement, and she says, I think he

0:43:04.239 --> 0:43:07.320
<v Speaker 1>needs to make it before the release. But the release

0:43:07.480 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>is today, so we haven't seen any We recorded this

0:43:10.200 --> 0:43:12.680
<v Speaker 1>yesterday or Monday. This is Tuesday, so unless it comes

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:16.360
<v Speaker 1>out tonight, maybe his team are waiting to read the

0:43:16.360 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>whole thing, the whole chapter before they make your response.

0:43:18.520 --> 0:43:19.600
<v Speaker 3>But I think we're going to hear from him.

0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:22.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't think in this situation you can cruise through

0:43:22.480 --> 0:43:23.720
<v Speaker 1>on silent mode.

0:43:23.960 --> 0:43:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I would love to know people's opinions

0:43:25.880 --> 0:43:28.400
<v Speaker 2>on this, because I do think that an abortion story

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 2>lays more predominantly with the female who experiences it than

0:43:32.800 --> 0:43:35.680
<v Speaker 2>the man. I'm not saying that his feelings are invalid,

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 2>but I'm saying that as a female, I think that

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Brittany has every right to speak about it, and unfortunately

0:43:41.800 --> 0:43:43.839
<v Speaker 2>Justin has to weather the storm of that in some way.

0:43:43.880 --> 0:43:48.120
<v Speaker 2>And he is not a victim in that he has

0:43:48.160 --> 0:43:51.319
<v Speaker 2>a huge profile, a huge media profile, and he has

0:43:51.360 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 2>the right of reply. I guess that that's how I

0:43:53.960 --> 0:43:55.600
<v Speaker 2>feel about it, and I would love to know if

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:56.040
<v Speaker 2>you think.

0:43:55.880 --> 0:44:00.680
<v Speaker 3>That that is not correct. Anyway, let's get into accident unfiltered.

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:05.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, this is an absolute cracker. I cannot believe I'm

0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 1>telling somebody this story, let alone the whole nation. So

0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 1>when I was sixteen, I had my first boyfriend and

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 1>he told me he loved blowjobs. So I was like, oh, easy,

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.160
<v Speaker 1>I can do that. We're in his bedroom, things were

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>getting hot and heavy. I saw my opportunity. It was

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.719
<v Speaker 1>my moment to shine. So I went down and I

0:44:23.760 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>blew on his dick. Yep, you read it right. I

0:44:30.440 --> 0:44:31.960
<v Speaker 1>blew on his dick and I came back up to

0:44:31.960 --> 0:44:33.160
<v Speaker 1>see his reaction, and.

0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:38.319
<v Speaker 2>I thinking I nailed that blow. It was a solid blow.

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 3>He looked at me like, oh, sweetheart, that's not it.

0:44:42.880 --> 0:44:46.000
<v Speaker 2>And I literally never saw him again. What do you

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 2>mean you never saw him again?

0:44:47.840 --> 0:44:49.640
<v Speaker 3>He goes to d I'm now twenty two. I'm still

0:44:49.640 --> 0:44:51.839
<v Speaker 3>horrified by this story. Every single time I have sex

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:52.280
<v Speaker 3>I think.

0:44:52.160 --> 0:44:54.560
<v Speaker 1>About it also, that's and yes, so you know I

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.080
<v Speaker 1>do know how to give a blowjob.

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:56.480
<v Speaker 2>Now stop it.

0:44:57.600 --> 0:44:57.960
<v Speaker 3>Do you know?

0:44:58.120 --> 0:44:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I broke up with my first boyfriend when I was

0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:02.160
<v Speaker 2>fifteen because you wouldn't let me give him a blowjob?

0:45:02.320 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Why why not? I don't fucking know. But I tried

0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:09.239
<v Speaker 2>like three times and he wouldn't let me. And we

0:45:09.360 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 2>dated for a year and a half and we'd never

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:14.880
<v Speaker 2>gotten past just like the heavy petting stage, through close

0:45:15.000 --> 0:45:17.840
<v Speaker 2>through complete clothes. But I was young and I wanted

0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:21.280
<v Speaker 2>to take things further. I was like fifteen heading into sixteen,

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:22.799
<v Speaker 2>and we've been dating for a year and a half

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 2>and he wouldn't let me. And at the time I

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:27.879
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't do it now obviously, guys, but I was young

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I'm ready to take my experimenting

0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 2>one step further and he was not, And I.

0:45:33.160 --> 0:45:35.520
<v Speaker 3>Was like, Okay, I guess he's fuck you.

0:45:35.520 --> 0:45:38.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh come elsewhere? I yeah, Well then it was dumbly,

0:45:39.120 --> 0:45:42.720
<v Speaker 2>like dumbley, that's not even a word, stupidly. I didn't

0:45:42.719 --> 0:45:45.920
<v Speaker 2>remember having sex for like two years. So yeah, that's

0:45:46.000 --> 0:45:47.960
<v Speaker 2>that's what happened. Do you know what you need to

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:50.160
<v Speaker 2>go and get tickets if you're on Gold Coast.

0:45:50.239 --> 0:45:54.400
<v Speaker 3>And come to the Gold Coast Show, which is on tomorrow, Wednesday, tomorrow.

0:45:54.560 --> 0:45:56.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, if this is Tuesday and you're listening to it,

0:45:56.560 --> 0:45:58.120
<v Speaker 2>or if this is not Tuesday and you're listening to

0:45:58.120 --> 0:45:59.600
<v Speaker 2>it late, you might have missed it. But anyway, we've

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:01.680
<v Speaker 2>still got Amber in Brisbane to come tomorrow.

0:46:01.719 --> 0:46:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Guys, we are dropping an absolutely incredible episode with the

0:46:05.640 --> 0:46:09.200
<v Speaker 1>one and only Trinny Woodhall aka Trinny London.

0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 4>Oh.

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 2>We interviewed her last week and she's just a fucking dream.

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.960
<v Speaker 1>She ain't so amazing in person, and the second she

0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:16.720
<v Speaker 1>walked in the door, she walked in with her entourage

0:46:16.719 --> 0:46:18.719
<v Speaker 1>and she was just like the sun. I saw her

0:46:18.719 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 1>at the rest of the receptionist. The sun was behind

0:46:21.000 --> 0:46:22.680
<v Speaker 1>her like an angel, and I was like, oh my god,

0:46:22.719 --> 0:46:25.200
<v Speaker 1>you're amazing. She's one of those people that walks into

0:46:25.239 --> 0:46:28.120
<v Speaker 1>a room and without even trying commands attention.

0:46:28.200 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 3>Do you know those people?

0:46:29.120 --> 0:46:31.239
<v Speaker 2>The sun wasn't behind her, it was shining out of her.

0:46:31.320 --> 0:46:33.839
<v Speaker 2>She literally is the sun and we are actually all

0:46:33.880 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 2>just orbiting around Trinny Woodow. We didn't realize.

0:46:36.280 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the interview is tomorrow and we talk about

0:46:39.480 --> 0:46:43.200
<v Speaker 1>so much. She has such an incredibly interesting life that

0:46:43.400 --> 0:46:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I had no idea about. She's gone through so many chapters,

0:46:46.719 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and she refers to her life a lot in decades.

0:46:49.640 --> 0:46:51.880
<v Speaker 3>So when she reflects back, she talks.

0:46:51.680 --> 0:46:54.560
<v Speaker 1>About decades, the hardest decade, the best decade, the most

0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:58.239
<v Speaker 1>successful decade, the lowest lows, and addictions that she went

0:46:58.320 --> 0:46:59.040
<v Speaker 1>through too.

0:46:59.160 --> 0:47:00.680
<v Speaker 3>She went to rehab, which a.

0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Lot of people probably don't know, to her highly successful career,

0:47:05.160 --> 0:47:07.839
<v Speaker 1>to her journey to motherhood, like we really really cover

0:47:07.920 --> 0:47:10.640
<v Speaker 1>it all, and she's truly such an inspiration. Well.

0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 2>She also talks about how this period of her life

0:47:12.719 --> 0:47:16.000
<v Speaker 2>is her most happiest and how she you know, I

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 2>think this idea that and we've seen it a lot

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 2>play out over social media. There's we've been many conversations

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:25.280
<v Speaker 2>around how our currency as a woman, like the things

0:47:25.280 --> 0:47:27.080
<v Speaker 2>that we can bring, whether it be to our work

0:47:27.160 --> 0:47:30.279
<v Speaker 2>or whether it be within the media, that we as

0:47:30.320 --> 0:47:35.040
<v Speaker 2>we age, our value decreases. And Triny is the absolute

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:37.440
<v Speaker 2>antithesis of that. And she says it for herself, and

0:47:37.520 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 2>maybe it's the privilege of working for herself, but she

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 2>says that she's never seen age as a limiting factor

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.320
<v Speaker 2>in what she's been able to achieve in her life,

0:47:45.360 --> 0:47:48.040
<v Speaker 2>and she has only become more successful as she has

0:47:48.080 --> 0:47:50.760
<v Speaker 2>gotten older. And I love the way that she speaks

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:54.239
<v Speaker 2>about aging, the way that she speaks about her own successes,

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:56.560
<v Speaker 2>and all about is on tomorrow's episode.

0:47:56.600 --> 0:47:57.680
<v Speaker 3>And that's it from us, guys.

0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:00.279
<v Speaker 1>You know the drill to your mum, Te Dougte you friends,

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:02.840
<v Speaker 1>and share the love because we love love