Speaker 1: You've just done something.
Speaker 2: I've done something which I was going to bring this
Speaker 2: up in private, but then I thought we are running late,
Speaker 2: need to record this episode.
Speaker 1: Of course, what better time than now. There's no better time.
Speaker 1: You've pissed on the floor. I didn't. You did? I
Speaker 1: definitely did not. Yes, you're a floor piss up. I
Speaker 1: did not. I have great control. You went to the toilet.
Speaker 1: How do you know? I don't sit.
Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it, but you managed
Speaker 2: to get w wiz on the floor.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I stand by one of us, producer Jess, went to
Speaker 2: the bathroom, came out and said him over there has
Speaker 2: pissed on the floor.
Speaker 1: Dare did not. I did not. I see what I
Speaker 1: WII must have had a boner or something.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you're doing in that guilty Welcome.
Speaker 1: Back to two my own webs. I'm trying to do
Speaker 1: the intro.
Speaker 4: Bro.
Speaker 1: Sorry, you're not doing this, so I didn't.
Speaker 2: They Welcome back to two Doting Dads. I am Addie
Speaker 2: Jay and this is a podcast all about parenting. It
Speaker 2: is the good, it is the bad, and the relatable.
Speaker 2: And we don't give advice ever at all.
Speaker 4: Except don't piss on the floor at Maddy's house, because
Speaker 4: you'll find out.
Speaker 2: It's just I feel like most people would have a
Speaker 2: decent amount of respect to not piss on someone else's property.
Speaker 1: Got to get back at you somehow. I don't want to.
Speaker 4: I honestly didn't know I did that.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 2: We are on holidays as a family. We've gone down
Speaker 2: to the house and the house was looking great. You know, Tom,
Speaker 2: I builder, who is just amazing. Kids, there's little fingerprints
Speaker 2: fucking everywhere, sticky, so sticky.
Speaker 4: Bro, you give them something that's not even sticky, and
Speaker 4: all of a sudden they've got fucking sticky.
Speaker 1: It's what are they doing? I think, what are they doing? Science?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, don't touch that, put that down, putting
Speaker 2: their feet up on the wall, like just feet, and
Speaker 2: also like coloring in. Just everything they do is just
Speaker 2: making a mess. And I get it. They're young and
Speaker 2: they're living their lives, living their best lives.
Speaker 4: If a child draws on a wall in your house,
Speaker 4: what's the course of action in terms of discipline.
Speaker 1: I will beat them to a pulp. I would expect
Speaker 1: nothing less.
Speaker 2: That is the fear that's been inflicted on them I'm
Speaker 2: yet to do it, Thank heavens for anyone wondering I did.
Speaker 2: Not my children, not yet. But there's a lot of
Speaker 2: yelling right now. As far as the holidays go, it's
Speaker 2: been it's been like a yellow minute.
Speaker 4: We offer talk about school holidays and how or just
Speaker 4: holidays with your family in general, and it's like it's
Speaker 4: meant to be like really fun, but it just ends
Speaker 4: up being fucking nightmarees it's a nightmare.
Speaker 2: I mean Marley, she didn't realize she thought holidays, we're
Speaker 2: just weekends. Like she didn't realize that.
Speaker 1: Oh bless.
Speaker 2: I was like, you're on holidays, and she's like, sweet weekends.
Speaker 2: And then on Monday she was like, uh, school and
Speaker 2: I was like, no, you're on holidays. She's never had
Speaker 2: like she's always been a daycare, so she's never had holidays.
Speaker 4: Never had an Oscar thinks the word yesterday means anytime
Speaker 4: any day that happened prior.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 4: So he'll be like, we'll go somewhere that we were
Speaker 4: at like a year ago. He'll be like, we were
Speaker 4: here yesterday. I was like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to live with this anxiety that you know.
Speaker 1: Obviously house. Is it going to get lived in? Right?
Speaker 2: It's not museums, I know, but I just everything looks
Speaker 2: nicer without kids in it.
Speaker 4: Off for sure, Like a brand new car and you
Speaker 4: put a kid in it. Oh, they just ruin everything.
Speaker 4: It's like they're carrying a constant bag of rubbish with them.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, come in the.
Speaker 4: Car, don't let me just get my bag of rubbish.
Speaker 1: It's the worst. So, you know, I'm so glad.
Speaker 2: I agonized of every nook and cranny of that house
Speaker 2: just to let my kids destroy it.
Speaker 1: The moment they moved in, They're like, is this eggshell white?
Speaker 1: Not anymore? And then I come back booker white?
Speaker 2: What's the come back here? And you're pissing on the
Speaker 2: fucking toilet floor seat. Jesus, can't you know?
Speaker 1: Just everywhere I turned, there's no concrete evidence that it
Speaker 1: was me. Producer Jazz has photos. She's untrustworthy. You're right,
Speaker 1: you're right, just photo Are you taking photos of my piss?
Speaker 1: She just threw me a shaker. That means yes, I'm
Speaker 1: into it. That's cool, very good, very good.
Speaker 2: I saw a guy on the drive down here by
Speaker 2: the way up here. He was in the back of
Speaker 2: the car and had his head out the window like
Speaker 2: a dog on the highway, just like head out, like
Speaker 2: mouth open.
Speaker 3: Maybe he ate something really spicy. I was like, I've
Speaker 3: never seen that before.
Speaker 4: Maybe he's fueled by wind, very gassy, very it would
Speaker 4: be so.
Speaker 1: Very good. Do you know what I saw?
Speaker 4: Speaking about something pit seat speaking about seeing things while driving.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever told you is one
Speaker 4: time I was driving out of my grandmother's house, who
Speaker 4: lives in Western Sydney.
Speaker 1: And we know Western Sydney.
Speaker 4: No offense, chess, it's pretty dicey, you know.
Speaker 1: No, Actually I love Western Sydney.
Speaker 4: Whoa, heyjeuz I didn't say I didn't like that.
Speaker 2: I'd love to know what portion of our listener is
Speaker 2: from Western Sydney. If you are listening and you do
Speaker 2: reside in the West of Sydney, please let us know.
Speaker 1: Well, this might be you. If you're listening listening in
Speaker 1: the car.
Speaker 4: Perhaps I was at the lights on the way out
Speaker 4: west and I look over to someone in their car
Speaker 4: and they were smoking an ice pipe.
Speaker 1: What suburb is this? Gilford Classic Guildford.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you are listening, enjoy that math The fhetamine.
Speaker 1: Yeah's meth and ice the same thing. Yeah, it is. Yep,
Speaker 1: it is great, great spoke, spoken like a true addict. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I look over and he's blazing up, just couldn't wait
Speaker 1: to get home. I don't know. Maybe he just likes
Speaker 1: to live life on the edge, or maybe it's addicted.
Speaker 2: It's a certain like there's a line, isn't it when
Speaker 2: you're a meth head, but you do it in private,
Speaker 2: But when you're a meth head you do it in public.
Speaker 2: You're like you've crossed the line.
Speaker 1: That myth must have been Moorish? You getting back for seconds? Okay,
Speaker 1: what do I go for? What do I go for? Hey?
Speaker 1: Speaking of substances? Good segue, seg, thank you.
Speaker 4: As you know, obviously goes to primary school much like
Speaker 4: Marley and primary schools schools in general, they have a
Speaker 4: lot of outside of school our activities, like he just
Speaker 4: went off the top of my head, like pizza and
Speaker 4: puzzle night, okay, which is usually like Father's Day.
Speaker 1: Right, and I know that puzzle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's like after hours, right, so it's
Speaker 4: like four o'clock sounds sexual pizza and penises, pizza, pizza
Speaker 4: and Dad's penis yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: Let me get back on track.
Speaker 4: Outside of school now, a lot of these things are
Speaker 4: alcohol free zones, as you can imagine, because what.
Speaker 2: What no, just imagining you rocking up? Did Pizza and
Speaker 2: Puzzle night with the case of beer?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I thought it was pizza puzzle and case of
Speaker 1: pizza puzzle And no, no, no, very funny. I just know. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I know thought you You're like you sound like annoyed
Speaker 1: and surprised. I tried to take my meth pipe with
Speaker 1: me again.
Speaker 4: You know they're but they also do events that are
Speaker 4: like parents only, like for fundraiser.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get through these fucking hell only ones.
Speaker 1: Let me come to those.
Speaker 4: On three keys and anyway, so the adults only nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking hell god. Anyway, we went to what they
Speaker 1: call a mingle. This story sounds terrible.
Speaker 4: This sounds like a horrible Sorry what happens the adult
Speaker 4: only mingles?
Speaker 1: No, this was this was the kids. This was a
Speaker 1: there were kids. There were kids on this mingles. Actually
Speaker 1: bring one kid.
Speaker 4: Anyway, all these events are alcohol free, and it begs
Speaker 4: the question why, okay, outside of school hours this parent.
Speaker 1: Mingle was for I can't get I can't look at you.
Speaker 1: I look at the floor, Look at the floor. I
Speaker 1: questioned why there's no alcohol?
Speaker 4: And I found out that there used to be alcohol
Speaker 4: at these after school events, like the fundraising shit, the parents'
Speaker 4: nights or whatever there used to be until trivia night
Speaker 4: last year. Apparently all the parents got really lit and
Speaker 4: they ended up finding alcohol like bottles around the school.
Speaker 1: What is wrong with people? I think it's really funny.
Speaker 1: What's wrong with people? Come on, this is for the kids.
Speaker 1: Well they ruined it for all of us. Anyway, we
Speaker 1: went to the mingle.
Speaker 4: How drunk were they getting? Apparently they were lit like list.
Speaker 4: It was a fundraising trivia end of years.
Speaker 1: And you talk about Western Sydney being bad, the northern
Speaker 1: beaches of Sydney a bunch of his heads.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but nothing else to do sink piers at schools,
Speaker 4: at the school mingles, at the school mingle. So we
Speaker 4: went to the KINDI Mingle, which was not run by
Speaker 4: the school all right, it's run by some volunteers and whatever.
Speaker 4: And it was like the P and C whatever it
Speaker 4: might be.
Speaker 1: And I was like, it would be Friday, whatever it
Speaker 1: may be. It's the peens. It's a Friday afternoon it's
Speaker 1: the p and C. Okay, the event was, Ah, why
Speaker 1: are you going to argue me on the pens? I
Speaker 1: don't care about the p and C. I've never heard
Speaker 1: of them. Well, the school has a P and C.
Speaker 1: The P and C.
Speaker 4: Organized a KINDI parent mingle, so you meet the other
Speaker 4: parents because obviously now we've been grouped into classes and
Speaker 4: now I'm forced to be friends with people that don't
Speaker 4: want to be friends with. Also, all the parents out
Speaker 4: there that go to my kids school, I love you.
Speaker 4: I have some friends that we all their kids go
Speaker 4: to this to the same school, and I thought, I
Speaker 4: don't want to go to an alcohol for event on
Speaker 4: a Friday, so I took a six pack. But the
Speaker 4: difference is with the six pack is I wrapped all
Speaker 4: the beers in and in a nappy like a cool No.
Speaker 1: Don't you just look like a fucking weird like a
Speaker 1: weirdo sniffing nappies. I don't sniff my beers, bro, I
Speaker 1: chuggle them. Are you hiding a beer in a nappy? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Like that looks weird. Like you're better off just going
Speaker 1: to the toilet.
Speaker 4: That's way creepy because the people think I'm doing some
Speaker 4: illicit drugs in there.
Speaker 2: Don't look any better walking around with like four nappies
Speaker 2: in your hand. A nappy guy, how do you assume
Speaker 2: I only had four? No one would be able to
Speaker 2: suspect it.
Speaker 3: What do we got?
Speaker 1: That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.
Speaker 4: Well, the jokes on you because I got away with it.
Speaker 4: When we were in the cool corner, people were coming
Speaker 4: over again, what's going on over here? I'm like, nappy
Speaker 4: beer can?
Speaker 1: I make a suggestion.
Speaker 2: You're better off getting a coke can and getting a
Speaker 2: tolley and pouring a tolly into the coke can.
Speaker 1: Too much work. You just look weird that you're holding
Speaker 1: a dirty nappy. That's funny. That's part of the joke.
Speaker 1: But like, don't question me.
Speaker 4: It works. Sorry, it worked up until we were leaving
Speaker 4: and I had to empty the bag full of beer
Speaker 4: cans into the recycling being, which is full of like, so,
Speaker 4: what do you do drink can?
Speaker 1: What do you do with the nappies? Oh, they're in
Speaker 1: there too. I'm taking a stand. April is a lucky lady.
Speaker 4: If they're going to force me to be friends with people,
Speaker 4: then I'm going to be drinking. Are your events not
Speaker 4: alcohol free or do you go to them?
Speaker 1: We haven't been to I don't know. Wow, we haven't
Speaker 1: had any. Actually we had one wrap up party, not
Speaker 1: wrap up party, rap up. We had one like welcome
Speaker 1: party for the kindie okay, after hours on a Friday,
Speaker 1: and it was kids too. Kids went.
Speaker 2: I was down the coast so I wasn't there. Do
Speaker 2: you know if it was our colfer it I don't know.
Speaker 1: I will ask for you.
Speaker 4: I think if you do it look as a school okay,
Speaker 4: I get it inside school hours. No not rocking up
Speaker 4: to a midday assembly, and least anyone someone would be
Speaker 4: if you have But like I think, if you're okay,
Speaker 4: hey Friday afternoon, after school hours.
Speaker 1: You should have a tipple. You should be allowed to
Speaker 1: have a tipple. I'm not saying get like hammered. I
Speaker 1: had like eight beers, but that's not the point. That's
Speaker 1: I can. I can handle it. And then a bit
Speaker 1: of math. But I think if you.
Speaker 2: Have to say you're joking, because people might oh shit, yeah, sorry,
Speaker 2: might not know that you're not being I'm not a
Speaker 2: math head yet, but I think that they should be.
Speaker 1: You should be able to have a tipple. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: agree with that. Okay, but well done. Well done for
Speaker 1: your ingenuity. I thought that was groundbreaking.
Speaker 4: You are.
Speaker 1: You're a very magiv. I'm the magiver of beer drinking.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, next time I'll come up with something a
Speaker 1: little bit more. I'll just strap it to a child.
Speaker 1: I'll be like, let me have a sip. Hey, you
Speaker 1: did something before I pisced on the floor. I get it. No,
Speaker 1: not that one. You found something that you shouldn't have.
Speaker 1: It's a photo of ultrasound because we're having a baby.
Speaker 4: Whoa, But I kind of already knew who. I just
Speaker 4: tell how I tried to pour your lovely wife, Laura. Congratulations.
Speaker 1: By the way, I'm holding photo of a young fetus,
Speaker 1: a beautiful Johnson fetus. Is it a boy or a girl?
Speaker 1: We don't know. I didn't shock right now.
Speaker 4: I know I tried to pour Laura a drink when
Speaker 4: we when you return from the jungle, and that drink
Speaker 4: was denied, and I had a suspicion. I had suspicions.
Speaker 4: I also haven't seen Laura in a while. Also, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's probably about it. And I know there's been talk
Speaker 4: about it, and I just knew. Also, someone might have
Speaker 4: spilled the beans.
Speaker 1: Who who? I'm not telling me I know, because I
Speaker 1: will get in trouble. Just tell me I forced it
Speaker 1: out of someone. Who give me some ellie? Yeah? Did
Speaker 1: you have her against the wall? Literally that war?
Speaker 4: I have her against that wall right there? Because I
Speaker 4: said to Laura, I was like, hey, I brought some
Speaker 4: margaritas the can and it's look one can, it's like
Speaker 4: two and a half standard drinks. Like I'm trying to
Speaker 4: get lit here. Yeah, And I was like, do you
Speaker 4: want to go halves? And she was like yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: very tentative. And I was and I look over your
Speaker 4: mum and she was like.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, she's signaling like, don't do that.
Speaker 1: She's so Because she was so, I was like, do
Speaker 1: you know what I did? After that?
Speaker 4: I looked at her and I was like, come here,
Speaker 4: and she was like she knew a white straightaway that
Speaker 4: I was going to crack this safe immediately.
Speaker 1: And I was like, you better tell me right what's gone?
Speaker 1: What did she say? She's a terrible liar And she
Speaker 1: was like, no, I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't tell me. That's exactly what she sounds like.
Speaker 4: I could never I could never tell you and I
Speaker 4: was like, what are we going to do. Is I'm
Speaker 4: going to ask you a question, You're going to nod
Speaker 4: your head. And I was like, is Laura pregnant?
Speaker 1: And she was like yeah. I was wondering where she
Speaker 1: got those bruises from. Sorry about that. And then I
Speaker 1: was like I was like, fucking okay, all right, I
Speaker 1: know it and I know it now. And she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: don't tell them.
Speaker 4: I told you they beat me, so congratulations. I already knew,
Speaker 4: but congratulations, this is going to ruin us financially.
Speaker 1: So we got give me a look at this baby.
Speaker 4: When are we?
Speaker 1: Okay? Hang on November? No, sooner October October? Baby, I
Speaker 1: was close. It's late October there, right, No, what it's in.
Speaker 2: Mid We were trying before I went into the jungle,
Speaker 2: just in case you didn't come back. The plan was
Speaker 2: we said this year twenty twenty five, if we are
Speaker 2: going to have a third, this will be the year
Speaker 2: that it happens. Because I'm conscious that Marley and Lola
Speaker 2: really close together. They're about eighteen months Nowlas just turned four,
Speaker 2: and I was like, if it doesn't happen this year,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a big gap. It's a big gap.
Speaker 1: Also, it's like accidental gap, you know. We were like, oh,
Speaker 1: it must have been an Actually it's like it's.
Speaker 2: A bit of double edged sword in that great because Marley,
Speaker 2: I guess, the older she comes, the older she turns,
Speaker 2: the more capable she is as a second third parent
Speaker 2: the main parent, which is great. But then we're like,
Speaker 2: we don't want you with that third child to still
Speaker 2: be friends with Marley and Lola.
Speaker 1: And the third child always gets forgotten about it.
Speaker 2: Like they do, don't they You're the thing, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: like you know exactly how how I turned out. But
Speaker 2: we said we're going to try, and we're kind of
Speaker 2: even said, we're like, if it doesn't happen before the jungle,
Speaker 2: like by the time I come back, it's going to
Speaker 2: be February, you know. And they're like, you know, for
Speaker 2: those who don't know, it takes nine months for a
Speaker 2: baby to grow in a woman's body. Then we're like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's pushing in the two thousand and twenty six.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we're kind of like, I have a summer baby,
Speaker 4: like immediate, like you know, no October, it's still it's close.
Speaker 2: But so and I said to Laura, if I make
Speaker 2: it to the end of the jungle, and I was like,
Speaker 2: fucking tell me, like if if you get if you'll
Speaker 2: find out you're pregnant whilst I'm away when you come
Speaker 2: on the show, Like tell me, right. So then obviously
Speaker 2: she didn't tell me, and then I kind of didn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like front of mine. But we came back
Speaker 2: from the jungle and I was like, oh, I guess
Speaker 2: you're not pregnant, and she was like nah, I was
Speaker 2: thinking about it and probably like not the wisest thing
Speaker 2: for us to do, right We're in a really good
Speaker 2: position right now.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, do you know what you know?
Speaker 2: I was like, you're probably right, Like what were we thinking?
Speaker 2: Trying to have a third Man's pretty crazy? And then
Speaker 2: and then there's a video. I'm assuming by the time
Speaker 2: this comes out, this video will be posted. But Laura
Speaker 2: then she goes, oh, someone gave me a scratchy and
Speaker 2: you scratch it. And I was like, oh, a little
Speaker 2: scratch scratchy. Sure, So I'm scratching it. And it was
Speaker 2: a really bad quality scratchy, like it was at a
Speaker 2: coin And as I was scratching off the top layer,
Speaker 2: it would then take that first layer off and then
Speaker 2: when you went to reveal like what's printed underneath, it
Speaker 2: was taking the print off as well, and.
Speaker 4: I was like, this is.
Speaker 1: I was like, and I was.
Speaker 2: It was one of those hard ones where I was
Speaker 2: trying to figure it out, like it was like match
Speaker 2: four of these icons, and if you get two of
Speaker 2: this one, it means you get that one on the
Speaker 2: first right, which underneath that one there.
Speaker 1: Is that how you get pregnant. Do the scratchy. So
Speaker 1: I'm scratching and I'm like, this is shit, throw it
Speaker 1: out and then she's like, keep on scratching, and then
Speaker 1: you scratch it.
Speaker 2: It was like fifteen icons and then then like a
Speaker 2: little tiny bottom right one it said you're having a baby,
Speaker 2: and I was like, where's the money? And then I
Speaker 2: was like I was very confused, and also I was
Speaker 2: in the mindset of like do we want to have
Speaker 2: a third?
Speaker 1: Yeah? You were like talking yourself out of it.
Speaker 2: We were straddling both sides of the party. Nice I
Speaker 2: was now I'm got visuals.
Speaker 1: One hand.
Speaker 2: We were like, it'll be amazing to have three kids.
Speaker 2: You know, I grew up was one of five. Imagine
Speaker 2: when we're older having a house full of three children
Speaker 2: and their partner's beautiful. But then on the other hand,
Speaker 2: I'm like, we're kind of like out of the trenches.
Speaker 4: Now, yeah, you like you're talking now. I don't want
Speaker 4: to sound you're talking now. Back to bassin there.
Speaker 2: Back to we don't we don't use nappies in the
Speaker 2: house anymore. We don't use the pram anymore.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my pram is covered in cobwebs. I looked at
Speaker 4: it the other day and it was looking back at
Speaker 4: me like shut up, yeah, where now. I spoke to
Speaker 4: someone who has a newborn, and I was like, what's
Speaker 4: that like?
Speaker 1: It sucks. It's I've forgotten. I've forgotten all those years
Speaker 1: of what it's what it's like having a third kid.
Speaker 1: I knew you would. I knew it was going to happen.
Speaker 1: I just did. I thought maybe next year.
Speaker 2: I also when when I found out in that moment
Speaker 2: when we had the scratchyet, I think we were at
Speaker 2: what we were maybe like twelve weeks, eleven weeks, so
Speaker 2: we have it. We didn't even have like the big tests.
Speaker 2: So then I also was conscious of like, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't want to it's very early days. I don't
Speaker 2: want to celebrate it and be like, we're having a
Speaker 2: kid because we've our cycle. When I say hours, Laura's
Speaker 2: we've had first child was a miscarriage. Then Laura was
Speaker 2: pregnant with Marley. Then after Miley was born, she got
Speaker 2: pregnant again. We lost that child at around twelve weeks shit,
Speaker 2: and then we had Lala. So you know, I'm kind
Speaker 2: of looking at the roadmap of which we just come
Speaker 2: down and I'm like, well, we're kind of due for
Speaker 2: another miscarriage, so.
Speaker 1: How many weeks are we now? So we are currently
Speaker 1: because I'm equally as involved in this together, Laura is
Speaker 1: currently I've lost count. She's fourteen or fifteen weeks. Wow.
Speaker 2: So yeah, So we went and had went, had the
Speaker 2: few tests done, but there's a lot of I thought
Speaker 2: there was just one test at twelve weeks.
Speaker 1: I think just opt in for a few different there's
Speaker 1: a few different ones, and I was kind of waiting
Speaker 1: for the bad news, like for something to go wrong,
Speaker 1: and I was like excited at the moment, but then
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, until where I don't know,
Speaker 1: I guess like you're holding the baby in your hand, Yeah,
Speaker 1: exactly exactly.
Speaker 2: So then I was every test I was kind of
Speaker 2: waiting and they're you know, taking all the measurements and
Speaker 2: like the heartbeat and everything else, just waiting for something
Speaker 2: to go wrong.
Speaker 1: It was very weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you recall ash when you go
Speaker 2: in excuse my ignorance here ultrasound. Oh I got sea sick.
Speaker 2: That's right, you passed out. But there was a student
Speaker 2: doctor who was in the room. He was very good looking,
Speaker 2: very good looking, and like the ultrasound. It's not that invasive,
Speaker 2: you know, if anyone's well, but you have one where
Speaker 2: they like, you know, you pull your pants down quite
Speaker 2: a bit and your belly is exposed and they scan it.
Speaker 2: Then they have the one that's like a big old
Speaker 2: banana size like instrument, and I was in the chair
Speaker 2: in the corner and it felt like is it called
Speaker 2: the cock chair?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were cocked. My guy, a good looking doctor
Speaker 1: inserted something into your wife.
Speaker 2: They're good looking doctor did the optra sound over the belly,
Speaker 2: and then they were like, we'll be back in one second.
Speaker 2: And then Laura was like, I wonder if he's going
Speaker 2: to do like the next part, which is like the
Speaker 2: banana rocket, And I was like, hope.
Speaker 1: So I'm joking popcorn.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: Let me get the tissues out, beautiful.
Speaker 2: He didn't come back. He didn't come back. We had
Speaker 2: the lovely older doctor female do that part.
Speaker 1: Laura was like, thank god it wasn't him. He was gorgeous,
Speaker 1: gorgeous young doctor. Anyway.
Speaker 2: Here, So we're still where we're fifteen weeks. We've had all,
Speaker 2: like all the major tests done. Everything's looking good and
Speaker 2: everything's tracking nicely.
Speaker 1: And with the gender, you're not going to tell anyone
Speaker 1: of this. The big question was big question was Marley
Speaker 1: and Lola.
Speaker 2: We found out at birth the sex, and I was like,
Speaker 2: this is great, like it's lovely. But first child, I
Speaker 2: was happy with whatever. Second child, I thought everyone else
Speaker 2: thought that Lola was going to be a boy, so
Speaker 2: I just had it in my mind that it was
Speaker 2: going to be a boy. So there was just a
Speaker 2: split second. But like gender surprise where you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting that. It's like you're thinking you're going
Speaker 2: to get a chocolate cake and you got a sponge.
Speaker 2: A sponge is still great. I'll eat a sponge, no
Speaker 2: questions asked. But at the same time, I just was
Speaker 2: expecting a chocolate cake and mudcake. Do you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, You're picking up what I'm putting down.
Speaker 1: I am, And now I'm just hungry.
Speaker 2: And so I just said to Laura, like, I want
Speaker 2: to go into birth because it's all about me.
Speaker 1: I'd like to know. And I think childbirth is beautiful.
Speaker 2: Enough of the moment that you don't need it to
Speaker 2: be at another like added level of surprise. But Laura
Speaker 2: was like, how amazing. You don't get many surprises in
Speaker 2: life for what reason?
Speaker 1: Like we get what's the yeah, yeah, yeah, what's the right?
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, let's let's pad this out.
Speaker 2: We can have a surprise now, and then childbirth is
Speaker 2: still great. It's not like you're not going to enjoy
Speaker 2: childbirth because you know the sex of your child.
Speaker 1: You're still going to enjoy it. It's going to be
Speaker 1: the sexy child is going to be the sexuy child
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So well, so I was like, let's find out prior
Speaker 2: so a bit of debating, I won nice because you
Speaker 2: know this is we are not going for a fourth Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think we're.
Speaker 1: You know, Laura's forty, she's thirty nine, she's young and fertile.
Speaker 1: She's not, well, she's a geriatric.
Speaker 4: She's not, she's medically it's just thirty nine medically, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: old of those medically medical medically is like we're saying
Speaker 4: she's geriatric in afford it.
Speaker 1: It's like imob.
Speaker 4: Technically called to the B and I scale how old
Speaker 4: are these thinks? They're not wrong, that's mean, but geriatric
Speaker 4: at forty?
Speaker 1: What for pregnancy? For pregnant? I was going to say,
Speaker 1: when was this scientific record kept from the forties.
Speaker 3: It's just when it comes to pregnancy, it's very offensive.
Speaker 3: That is offensive. I'm offended for her. And she's thirty nine?
Speaker 1: Is she she's thirty nine?
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is almost forty. Sorry, what is the new thirty? Anyway, congratulations,
Speaker 4: that's amazing, Thank you very much. Like I said, I
Speaker 4: knew it was coming. I didn't know it was coming
Speaker 4: this early, and I also was waiting for you to
Speaker 4: tell me because I knew. And then also I found
Speaker 4: that over there and I walked in and I said,
Speaker 4: do you have something to tell me? And you gave
Speaker 4: me this look like like no, and I was like,
Speaker 4: oh no, embracing for the worst. So I'm I'm glad
Speaker 4: it's the best, the best result, Thank you very much.
Speaker 2: And so I didn't tell you sooner, No that I
Speaker 2: wanted to surprise you on the pot, but fucking that
Speaker 2: was harder than I thought, because you are a detective
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 4: Do you know I lived next door to a good
Speaker 4: friend of mine a while ago across the hall, and
Speaker 4: I also picked twice when she was pregnant without them
Speaker 4: before they told us i'd have a gift.
Speaker 1: Jess is not pregnant gift. That's a gift. Point someone out.
Speaker 1: This might sound weird, but I don't have a kink
Speaker 1: with pregnant women. Oh yeah, you don't.
Speaker 2: But I find Laura at the moment, she's popping a
Speaker 2: lot more than the previous pregnancies.
Speaker 1: Wait normally works. She also doesn't answer my calls.
Speaker 2: She's been avoiding your bellies popped like I think with Marley,
Speaker 2: she didn't pop right until the final trimester. Whereas now
Speaker 2: that belly's out and Laura's like, oh, I just feel
Speaker 2: so fat. I hate it, And I'm like, damn girl,
Speaker 2: I'm like, whoh ring that belly?
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: Get the vitamin E cream out and rather it's just like,
Speaker 4: because you know it helps the trench marks right.
Speaker 1: Get in there, man, deep in there, you know, like
Speaker 1: all over, just the belly, just a belly. Feet. Work
Speaker 1: on the feet. Nah, that Laura has dry feet. I'm
Speaker 1: not a foot guy, if I'm honest. The hands of
Speaker 1: the legs.
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm gonna I look forward to lubing Laura
Speaker 3: luber ride with a vitamin E cream or some baby oil,
Speaker 3: slipping slider.
Speaker 1: I find a horse what what do you mean?
Speaker 4: Gymnastics and there's that thing they get get all handsy
Speaker 4: and they they fling their legs around.
Speaker 3: That's a I'm going to ride Laura like a pommel horse.
Speaker 3: You're ready, She's going to be the apparatus. I hope
Speaker 3: she's ready.
Speaker 1: She would be ready.
Speaker 2: There is no other moment when I find Laura more
Speaker 2: attractive than when she's pregnant.
Speaker 4: You've got to kink my guy. I mean, get my
Speaker 4: list of pregnant women up here. I've got a folder.
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, it's beautiful. Keep my hands
Speaker 1: off that. I can't wait for my for you page
Speaker 1: to just be pregnant. Yeah, we're also. I haven't celebrated it.
Speaker 2: Really. I have moments where I'm like, oh, wow, you know,
Speaker 2: what's it gonna try to envision having a newborn baby
Speaker 2: in the house and I'm trying to imagine it at
Speaker 2: the same time. Every time I start to imagine it,
Speaker 2: I put the handbreak up because I'm like, I know,
Speaker 2: I don't wanna.
Speaker 4: Is it because of you put your handbreak up because
Speaker 4: you don't want to celebrate in case something happened.
Speaker 1: Is that what I'm picking up?
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we've been down that road a number of times,
Speaker 2: and especially like the the first time Laura was pregnant,
Speaker 2: which is obviously each pregnancy is special, but the very
Speaker 2: first time, Like, there is no greater change in your
Speaker 2: life as an adult from when you go from no
Speaker 2: kids to having kids, and so that first one is
Speaker 2: the biggest moment of all, I think, And that first
Speaker 2: one is you know, you, that's when I don't know
Speaker 2: what you were like, but I was, you know, I
Speaker 2: was spending every second imagining like, oh my god, what
Speaker 2: is it going to be like being a parent, Like
Speaker 2: this is actually going to happen. And then when that's
Speaker 2: taken away from you, you know, there's no greater emotional
Speaker 2: whiplash than having a miscarriage.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I haven't thankfully I haven't had to experience that.
Speaker 4: But also I think like what we do on this
Speaker 4: pot is we do practice. We do preach a little
Speaker 4: bit is like don't don't go through all that stuff alone,
Speaker 4: like don't feel that you can't celebrate your wins.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I think as as we get closer,
Speaker 2: because in my mind, we're still like at the beginning
Speaker 2: of still of the of the pregnancy, and even like
Speaker 2: when Laura was pregnant with Mali and pregnant with Lola,
Speaker 2: there was there was lots of times throughout where we
Speaker 2: were super anxious because we're just waiting for something to
Speaker 2: go wrong, and you have little moments where baby doesn't
Speaker 2: move that much, and you might have one or two
Speaker 2: day period where previously baby was really active and now
Speaker 2: it's not, and so you just, you know, like you're
Speaker 2: just waiting for those signs that something might be going wrong.
Speaker 2: And it's so hard because you know, when you do
Speaker 2: experience a miscarriage, like wasn't as if Laura did anything wrong.
Speaker 2: You know, it's not as if she like behaves in
Speaker 2: a certain way which encouraged a miscarriage to happen.
Speaker 1: It's just, unfortunately, just part of life.
Speaker 2: It wasn't meant to be just happened, and so you
Speaker 2: just you just got to be this passenger on the
Speaker 2: journey and just hope and pray that you know, it's
Speaker 2: going to turn out all right.
Speaker 4: Fortunately I haven't had to experience that feeling of a miscarriage,
Speaker 4: but when it does happen, what sort of feelings come
Speaker 4: to the surface.
Speaker 2: I think the first time it happened, we were overseas
Speaker 2: and Laura experienced a little bit of bleeding, and that
Speaker 2: bleeding progress, it got a little bit heavier, and I
Speaker 2: remember her saying to me, like, oh, like, there's a
Speaker 2: lot of blood here, and you know, you instantly you
Speaker 2: realize it's not a good sign, and there's not a
Speaker 2: whole lot you can do, Like you just have to
Speaker 2: like a you're kind of hoping that the bleeding stops,
Speaker 2: and then you go to the doctors, you get scans done,
Speaker 2: and you know, you're kind of just hoping, hoping that
Speaker 2: you get good news. And I think I I think
Speaker 2: I was preparing myself for the bad news. There was
Speaker 2: so much bleeding over a longer period of time, so
Speaker 2: I kind of thought to myself, like my.
Speaker 1: Intuition was that this is really not good and do
Speaker 1: they give you a reason? There's no reason.
Speaker 2: So we found out we had scans done, there was
Speaker 2: no longer a heartbeat, so we knew that we had
Speaker 2: lost the baby. And there's not the hardest thing is
Speaker 2: there's not like a specific reason.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: It's not like they say, because you did X, we
Speaker 2: lost the baby, you know, which almost would be easier to.
Speaker 1: Stomach because you know what to do not to do
Speaker 1: next time. Yeah, that's it exactly if it was that,
Speaker 1: But it's not because you know, I remember for Laura,
Speaker 1: her biggest thought was why I've done something to make
Speaker 1: this pregnancy when she hasn't, not at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like that, the biggest bit of communication was
Speaker 2: to Laura that this is not your fault, Like you
Speaker 2: haven't caused this. You know, there's nothing wrong with you
Speaker 2: because obviously you're carrying the baby. And she's like, well,
Speaker 2: maybe I'm not a good carrier. Yeah, maybe there's something
Speaker 2: wrong with my body that means that I'm not going
Speaker 2: to be able to carry a baby. And like Laura
Speaker 2: was so worried that it was something that she had
Speaker 2: done her there's something that was wrong with her.
Speaker 1: So you're trying to like trying to.
Speaker 2: Communicate and reassure her that like she hasn't done anything
Speaker 2: wrong here. The best way that I could digest the
Speaker 2: situation is that you kind of think like it was
Speaker 2: always going to happen this way, and they they can
Speaker 2: test for level of hormones and sometimes like the more
Speaker 2: hormones you have is a good sign.
Speaker 1: But my mum told me this.
Speaker 2: She just said that sometimes the body just has to
Speaker 2: do a test run and there's no like medical backing
Speaker 2: for this. I think it was just an easy way
Speaker 2: of my body. It was an easy way for me
Speaker 2: to kind of see the situation from the point of
Speaker 2: view that it was just body making sure that everything
Speaker 2: was where it needed to be to prepare for the
Speaker 2: one that was going to be the one and so
Speaker 2: but yeah, and afterwards, you kind of think, from my perspective,
Speaker 2: you know, I was obviously upset because that baby that
Speaker 2: I was imagining was gone. It was you know, it
Speaker 2: was never going to be. And then you can't help
Speaker 2: it think like what could have been, Like what could
Speaker 2: have been that little baby if it had made it,
Speaker 2: and you can't help it think about that outcome.
Speaker 1: But then as well, for law.
Speaker 2: She's dealing with the emotional distress of a miscarriage, but
Speaker 2: in the physical side as well, you know, it's really uncomfortable.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: It's I'm lucky that for a guy, you know, I
Speaker 2: could go for a run and try and get my
Speaker 2: mind off things, whereas doorphins and totally do something to
Speaker 2: distract myself. But for a woman, you know, they're dealing
Speaker 2: with it like every second of the day. Like physically
Speaker 2: it hurts as well. So it's it's there's a constant
Speaker 2: reminder of what they're experiencing, so they don't have the
Speaker 2: ability to switch off from it.
Speaker 1: For your first one, what point how far along?
Speaker 4: I think we're about twelve weeks, Okay, so it can
Speaker 4: happen and figure my ignorance again, it can happen in
Speaker 4: different circums a different times, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's obviously a higher risk of miscarriage earlier on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and so there's kind of that reassurance in my mind,
Speaker 2: like now I'm like, okay, Well, every every week that
Speaker 2: we don't have any issue is a week that we're
Speaker 2: kind of like, not the clear, but we're kind of
Speaker 2: itching towards being in a place where we don't have
Speaker 2: to worry every day. About it and as hard as well,
Speaker 2: because when you're in the first twelve weeks, we've been
Speaker 2: conditioned not to tell people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2: And I remember mates who would be like eight weeks
Speaker 2: pregnant and they would tell people that. I'd be like,
Speaker 2: what are you doing, Like you can't you shouldn't be
Speaker 2: telling people, Whereas I actually think now it's really stupid.
Speaker 2: I think whoever said you shouldn't tell anyone before twelve
Speaker 2: we look back at that, you're like, tell everyone.
Speaker 4: Because it's a thing as well, Like when I was saying,
Speaker 4: like I was trying to find the words where it's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: you're not going to be celebrating because you've got this
Speaker 4: fear still, which it's completely normal. But then also it's like,
Speaker 4: why will suffer alone with it totally because you're already
Speaker 4: I mean, for Laura in the first instance that happened,
Speaker 4: You've got the physical side of it. You mentioned the
Speaker 4: mental side of it, and also the self worth side
Speaker 4: of it as well. But then also it's like like
Speaker 4: I can only and it's going to lead me into
Speaker 4: my next question. I can only really talk to Matt
Speaker 4: about this. But my next question is if we're all
Speaker 4: out here talking about it. As someone who's close to
Speaker 4: Laura other than you, how do you think that they
Speaker 4: could have supported.
Speaker 2: It's hard because you know, if someone is in the
Speaker 2: early stages of pregnancy, unless you'r ash Wicks where you're
Speaker 2: very dialed into being able to guess it, no one's
Speaker 2: going to know. And so it's it's a really heavy
Speaker 2: topic to bring up with someone who doesn't know what
Speaker 2: you're going through. You know, if in that moment after
Speaker 2: it had happened, and someone asked me a question of hey, Matt,
Speaker 2: how are you, if you respond and go, well, we
Speaker 2: just found out we lost a baby, You're like, first
Speaker 2: of all, shit, you didn't know your Laura was pregnant
Speaker 2: and then you've lost it.
Speaker 1: Like, it's it's such a big it's a big, heavy subject, heavy.
Speaker 2: Subject, you know, and obviously there's a few people who
Speaker 2: were that close to you where you can bring it up.
Speaker 2: Like obviously my family, they like we could talk about it,
Speaker 2: but because we didn't tell anyone that we would trying,
Speaker 2: We didn't tell anyone that Laura was pregnant when we
Speaker 2: lost the baby. Yeah, we were just it was just
Speaker 2: something that we internalized and so I didn't. I didn't
Speaker 2: bring it up with anybody as well, and I was
Speaker 2: I didn't want to bring it up and draw attention
Speaker 2: to something that I don't know if Laura wanted people
Speaker 2: to know about. But I think the biggest surprise is
Speaker 2: it is so so common. Yeah, so many people know
Speaker 2: about it. Laura spoke about it on Life on Cut
Speaker 2: after it happened, like a little while after, and there
Speaker 2: was surprising how many people came out and said, oh,
Speaker 2: we've also experienced that, because in my head, stupidly, I
Speaker 2: thought it was something that was like one in twenty
Speaker 2: or like you know, yeah, it's like.
Speaker 1: One and two almost. It's wild. It's wild how big.
Speaker 1: And before you have kids, you have no idea about
Speaker 1: that stat whatsoever.
Speaker 4: Before you fall pregnant, you have no idea about the stats,
Speaker 4: the complications, the variations, the variables, everything involved until you're
Speaker 4: actually going through it. But like, looking back, do you
Speaker 4: think that if you after it happened the first time,
Speaker 4: do you think if that you didn't internalize it so
Speaker 4: much then and you were more vocal with it about
Speaker 4: closer to you, do you think it would have helped
Speaker 4: you with your worries now? Oh?
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it would have helped my worry Now.
Speaker 2: I think I think if we did, like Heaven forbid, touch,
Speaker 2: would we lose this baby? I know that I would
Speaker 2: tell a lot more people. I would be so much
Speaker 2: more vocal with it and open with it and not
Speaker 2: feel like I was being such a burden in bringing
Speaker 2: it up with other people in conversation.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and do you think if you knew that back
Speaker 4: then you would have been able to process about it? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, I'm very fortunate that I haven't had
Speaker 2: to deal with a huge amount of trauma in my life,
Speaker 2: and that is probably one of the ones that was
Speaker 2: like top of the list. The moments where you talk
Speaker 2: about it makes it so much easier to make sense
Speaker 2: of the whole situation. You know, It's it can be
Speaker 2: a dangerous thing just having these internalized thoughts that never
Speaker 2: get the chance to have a voice out in the open.
Speaker 4: It needs the oxygen one hundred percent, right, because, like
Speaker 4: we're talking, so many people are going through the same
Speaker 4: thing but doing it in silence. And then think of
Speaker 4: how all those people that go through it don't try
Speaker 4: again because they're too scared or haven't had a conversation
Speaker 4: with someone like you who's tried again and again and
Speaker 4: it's happened again, and then you're willing to go through
Speaker 4: that again for the ultimate reward, which is parenthood.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I think the message to anyone who has experienced
Speaker 2: a miscarriage is that it's not your fault and unfortunately,
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, it just wasn't meant to be. So,
Speaker 2: I mean, I will as time progresses, I will start
Speaker 2: to celebrate it more.
Speaker 1: I hope so. And there's a part of me that goes,
Speaker 1: am I an idiot for having a third child? Are
Speaker 1: we like the moment? Yes?
Speaker 3: And no.
Speaker 2: The moment we've just come to a point where we
Speaker 2: finally kind of got control to a certain degree with parenting.
Speaker 2: We feel like we're getting the upper hand.
Speaker 1: The kids understand what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, they might not do what you've said that
Speaker 4: you're at a stage now where both girls are at
Speaker 4: an age where they understand if you did raise your
Speaker 4: voice enough, you could get.
Speaker 1: Some law and order.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I can't begin to tell you how much easier parenting
Speaker 2: is when you can communicate with your child and they
Speaker 2: can say I'm hungry, i'm cold, I have a saw
Speaker 2: a tummy, I have a headache.
Speaker 1: I want a glass of water. That is an amazing
Speaker 1: position to be in. And I'm like far out to
Speaker 1: get to the point where I've got a little blob
Speaker 1: back to a guessing game. The guessing game, I'm like,
Speaker 1: ash am I an idiot? No? Okay, great, No, I
Speaker 1: don't think you're an idiot. Honestly, not for me. If
Speaker 1: you guys have made the decision.
Speaker 2: Obstetrician was like, we came in and the first thing
Speaker 2: you said was what the hell are you guys doing?
Speaker 1: You're out.
Speaker 4: You're well and truly going to be outnumbered, which is
Speaker 4: something that people warn you about.
Speaker 1: But you just don't know.
Speaker 4: If you're looking at what my life's going to be
Speaker 4: like with three and you think that's what makes this
Speaker 4: family feel plea, then you haven't done the wrong.
Speaker 2: Actould you know who helped me? Who is Aimes on
Speaker 2: the poetic When she was like it's good, yeah, this
Speaker 2: is on you, Ames. But when she was like, Ames's
Speaker 2: I guess we had on a little while ago. She's
Speaker 2: got four kids, and she was like, no, it gets easier,
Speaker 2: and I was like, where's Laura?
Speaker 4: No, congratulations and thank you for sharing all of that
Speaker 4: with us off the back of that, Matthew, there's a
Speaker 4: very important decision that needs to be made and you've
Speaker 4: got plenty of time to do that, and that is
Speaker 4: what you were going to name this child. Now, there
Speaker 4: are I'm not gonna say good and bad names, but
Speaker 4: let's face it, there are names that you associate with
Speaker 4: bad behave.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think everyone grows up and names have a certain
Speaker 2: image attached to it based on the kids that.
Speaker 1: You went to school with. Yeah, oh for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And so there are names where, like Laura and I
Speaker 2: were going through potential names at the moment and I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: we can't call it that because I had one of
Speaker 2: those names at my.
Speaker 1: School and that were so naughty. So I thought we
Speaker 1: should do like our top three noughty.
Speaker 4: Names, naughty names, Matthew, Okay, all right, So my first
Speaker 4: one Billy. Yeah, we used to have a kid at school, Billy.
Speaker 4: He's stunk, but also he was such.
Speaker 1: A naughty kid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Billy's are very naughty, Yeah, very cheeky. For me,
Speaker 2: it's more of a it's a j names that start
Speaker 2: with jay.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So number three for me is gi Ji
Speaker 1: is aughty name. Yeah, Okay, I never had a joy
Speaker 1: that I can recall. To any guys out there, I apologize.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to stuff. You're ill evil those parents
Speaker 1: out there being like that was our name for a kid?
Speaker 1: Cross that out. Number two? Yeah, Jake, Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: got a couple. Yeah, it's the Jay's.
Speaker 2: Dude, Jesus, Okay, I'm going to throw a girl's name
Speaker 2: in the mix. And again, if this is your name
Speaker 2: and you're very well behaved, I'm sorry to offend.
Speaker 1: But Evie Eve is it cheeky? Very close to evil? Yes? Right,
Speaker 1: suspiciously close. What's your number one? Number one? Which I
Speaker 1: think was going to be similar? If it's a boy, Nathan, Nathan.
Speaker 2: I knew and Nathan in school and he was quite nice.
Speaker 2: He's my only actually there was there was one nice
Speaker 2: and there's one evil difference. My number one, going back
Speaker 2: to Jay's, it's the Jay's. You've got to be worried
Speaker 2: about Jared.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's gonna shivers down my spine.
Speaker 2: If your child is becoming friends with another child called Jared,
Speaker 2: just be very careful, have your guard up, be warned,
Speaker 2: because that's a naughty. Fucking is a naughty and if
Speaker 2: it's not naughty now will be naughty in the future.
Speaker 1: That's a future criminal.
Speaker 2: They cannot fight the naughtiness once they have the tag
Speaker 2: of Jared. There's only one path in life that will take.
Speaker 4: Jared's the new Ivan. I'm going to say it, say
Speaker 4: that Jared. My lat has are into it. Actually I
Speaker 4: like it so yeah. So luckily I don't have to
Speaker 4: worry about Jay's for this baby.
Speaker 1: I don't have any names in the mix Jessica, Jessica
Speaker 1: and am I just jess It old Jeffica, Jesse Bear
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