WEBVTT - #141 WE HAVE BIG NEWS

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<v Speaker 1>You've just done something.

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<v Speaker 2>I've done something which I was going to bring this

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<v Speaker 2>up in private, but then I thought we are running late,

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<v Speaker 2>need to record this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, what better time than now. There's no better time.

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<v Speaker 1>You've pissed on the floor. I didn't. You did? I

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<v Speaker 1>definitely did not. Yes, you're a floor piss up. I

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<v Speaker 1>did not. I have great control. You went to the toilet.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you know? I don't sit.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you do it, but you managed

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<v Speaker 2>to get w wiz on the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I stand by one of us, producer Jess, went to

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom, came out and said him over there has

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<v Speaker 2>pissed on the floor.

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<v Speaker 1>Dare did not. I did not. I see what I

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<v Speaker 1>WII must have had a boner or something.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you're doing in that guilty Welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to two my own webs. I'm trying to do

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<v Speaker 1>the intro.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, you're not doing this, so I didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>They Welcome back to two Doting Dads. I am Addie

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<v Speaker 2>Jay and this is a podcast all about parenting. It

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<v Speaker 2>is the good, it is the bad, and the relatable.

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<v Speaker 2>And we don't give advice ever at all.

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<v Speaker 4>Except don't piss on the floor at Maddy's house, because

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<v Speaker 4>you'll find out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just I feel like most people would have a

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<v Speaker 2>decent amount of respect to not piss on someone else's property.

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<v Speaker 1>Got to get back at you somehow. I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 4>I honestly didn't know I did that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 2>We are on holidays as a family. We've gone down

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<v Speaker 2>to the house and the house was looking great. You know, Tom,

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<v Speaker 2>I builder, who is just amazing. Kids, there's little fingerprints

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<v Speaker 2>fucking everywhere, sticky, so sticky.

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<v Speaker 4>Bro, you give them something that's not even sticky, and

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<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden they've got fucking sticky.

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<v Speaker 1>It's what are they doing? I think, what are they doing? Science?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, don't touch that, put that down, putting

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<v Speaker 2>their feet up on the wall, like just feet, and

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<v Speaker 2>also like coloring in. Just everything they do is just

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<v Speaker 2>making a mess. And I get it. They're young and

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<v Speaker 2>they're living their lives, living their best lives.

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<v Speaker 4>If a child draws on a wall in your house,

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<v Speaker 4>what's the course of action in terms of discipline.

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<v Speaker 1>I will beat them to a pulp. I would expect

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<v Speaker 1>nothing less.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the fear that's been inflicted on them I'm

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<v Speaker 2>yet to do it, Thank heavens for anyone wondering I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Not my children, not yet. But there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>yelling right now. As far as the holidays go, it's

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<v Speaker 2>been it's been like a yellow minute.

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<v Speaker 4>We offer talk about school holidays and how or just

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<v Speaker 4>holidays with your family in general, and it's like it's

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<v Speaker 4>meant to be like really fun, but it just ends

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<v Speaker 4>up being fucking nightmarees it's a nightmare.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean Marley, she didn't realize she thought holidays, we're

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<v Speaker 2>just weekends. Like she didn't realize that.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh bless.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, you're on holidays, and she's like, sweet weekends.

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<v Speaker 2>And then on Monday she was like, uh, school and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, no, you're on holidays. She's never had

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<v Speaker 2>like she's always been a daycare, so she's never had holidays.

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<v Speaker 4>Never had an Oscar thinks the word yesterday means anytime

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<v Speaker 4>any day that happened prior.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that.

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<v Speaker 4>So he'll be like, we'll go somewhere that we were

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<v Speaker 4>at like a year ago. He'll be like, we were

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<v Speaker 4>here yesterday. I was like, what are you talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to live with this anxiety that you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously house. Is it going to get lived in? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>It's not museums, I know, but I just everything looks

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<v Speaker 2>nicer without kids in it.

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<v Speaker 4>Off for sure, Like a brand new car and you

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<v Speaker 4>put a kid in it. Oh, they just ruin everything.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like they're carrying a constant bag of rubbish with them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, come in the.

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<v Speaker 4>Car, don't let me just get my bag of rubbish.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the worst. So, you know, I'm so glad.

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<v Speaker 2>I agonized of every nook and cranny of that house

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<v Speaker 2>just to let my kids destroy it.

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<v Speaker 1>The moment they moved in, They're like, is this eggshell white?

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<v Speaker 1>Not anymore? And then I come back booker white?

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<v Speaker 2>What's the come back here? And you're pissing on the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking toilet floor seat. Jesus, can't you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Just everywhere I turned, there's no concrete evidence that it

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<v Speaker 1>was me. Producer Jazz has photos. She's untrustworthy. You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, just photo Are you taking photos of my piss?

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<v Speaker 1>She just threw me a shaker. That means yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>into it. That's cool, very good, very good.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a guy on the drive down here by

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<v Speaker 2>the way up here. He was in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>the car and had his head out the window like

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<v Speaker 2>a dog on the highway, just like head out, like

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<v Speaker 2>mouth open.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe he ate something really spicy. I was like, I've

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<v Speaker 3>never seen that before.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe he's fueled by wind, very gassy, very it would

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<v Speaker 4>be so.

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<v Speaker 1>Very good. Do you know what I saw?

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking about something pit seat speaking about seeing things while driving.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I've ever told you is one

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<v Speaker 4>time I was driving out of my grandmother's house, who

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<v Speaker 4>lives in Western Sydney.

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<v Speaker 1>And we know Western Sydney.

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<v Speaker 4>No offense, chess, it's pretty dicey, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>No, Actually I love Western Sydney.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa, heyjeuz I didn't say I didn't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd love to know what portion of our listener is

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<v Speaker 2>from Western Sydney. If you are listening and you do

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<v Speaker 2>reside in the West of Sydney, please let us know.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, this might be you. If you're listening listening in

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<v Speaker 1>the car.

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<v Speaker 4>Perhaps I was at the lights on the way out

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<v Speaker 4>west and I look over to someone in their car

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<v Speaker 4>and they were smoking an ice pipe.

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<v Speaker 1>What suburb is this? Gilford Classic Guildford.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So if you are listening, enjoy that math The fhetamine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah's meth and ice the same thing. Yeah, it is. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>it is great, great spoke, spoken like a true addict. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I look over and he's blazing up, just couldn't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to get home. I don't know. Maybe he just likes

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<v Speaker 1>to live life on the edge, or maybe it's addicted.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a certain like there's a line, isn't it when

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<v Speaker 2>you're a meth head, but you do it in private,

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<v Speaker 2>But when you're a meth head you do it in public.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like you've crossed the line.

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<v Speaker 1>That myth must have been Moorish? You getting back for seconds? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I go for? What do I go for? Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of substances? Good segue, seg, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>As you know, obviously goes to primary school much like

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<v Speaker 4>Marley and primary schools schools in general, they have a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of outside of school our activities, like he just

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<v Speaker 4>went off the top of my head, like pizza and

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<v Speaker 4>puzzle night, okay, which is usually like Father's Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and I know that puzzle.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's like it's like after hours, right, so it's

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<v Speaker 4>like four o'clock sounds sexual pizza and penises, pizza, pizza

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<v Speaker 4>and Dad's penis yeah, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me get back on track.

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<v Speaker 4>Outside of school now, a lot of these things are

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<v Speaker 4>alcohol free zones, as you can imagine, because what.

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<v Speaker 2>What no, just imagining you rocking up? Did Pizza and

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<v Speaker 2>Puzzle night with the case of beer?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I thought it was pizza puzzle and case of

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<v Speaker 1>pizza puzzle And no, no, no, very funny. I just know. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I know thought you You're like you sound like annoyed

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<v Speaker 1>and surprised. I tried to take my meth pipe with

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<v Speaker 1>me again.

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<v Speaker 4>You know they're but they also do events that are

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<v Speaker 4>like parents only, like for fundraiser.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to get through these fucking hell only ones.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me come to those.

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<v Speaker 4>On three keys and anyway, so the adults only nine.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fucking hell god. Anyway, we went to what they

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<v Speaker 1>call a mingle. This story sounds terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>This sounds like a horrible Sorry what happens the adult

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<v Speaker 4>only mingles?

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<v Speaker 1>No, this was this was the kids. This was a

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<v Speaker 1>there were kids. There were kids on this mingles. Actually

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<v Speaker 1>bring one kid.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, all these events are alcohol free, and it begs

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<v Speaker 4>the question why, okay, outside of school hours this parent.

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<v Speaker 1>Mingle was for I can't get I can't look at you.

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<v Speaker 1>I look at the floor, Look at the floor. I

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<v Speaker 1>questioned why there's no alcohol?

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<v Speaker 4>And I found out that there used to be alcohol

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<v Speaker 4>at these after school events, like the fundraising shit, the parents'

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<v Speaker 4>nights or whatever there used to be until trivia night

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<v Speaker 4>last year. Apparently all the parents got really lit and

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<v Speaker 4>they ended up finding alcohol like bottles around the school.

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<v Speaker 1>What is wrong with people? I think it's really funny.

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<v Speaker 1>What's wrong with people? Come on, this is for the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Well they ruined it for all of us. Anyway, we

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<v Speaker 1>went to the mingle.

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<v Speaker 4>How drunk were they getting? Apparently they were lit like list.

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<v Speaker 4>It was a fundraising trivia end of years.

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<v Speaker 1>And you talk about Western Sydney being bad, the northern

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<v Speaker 1>beaches of Sydney a bunch of his heads.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah yeah, but nothing else to do sink piers at schools,

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<v Speaker 4>at the school mingles, at the school mingle. So we

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<v Speaker 4>went to the KINDI Mingle, which was not run by

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<v Speaker 4>the school all right, it's run by some volunteers and whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was like the P and C whatever it

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<v Speaker 4>might be.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, it would be Friday, whatever it

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<v Speaker 1>may be. It's the peens. It's a Friday afternoon it's

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<v Speaker 1>the p and C. Okay, the event was, Ah, why

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<v Speaker 1>are you going to argue me on the pens? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care about the p and C. I've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of them. Well, the school has a P and C.

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<v Speaker 1>The P and C.

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<v Speaker 4>Organized a KINDI parent mingle, so you meet the other

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<v Speaker 4>parents because obviously now we've been grouped into classes and

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<v Speaker 4>now I'm forced to be friends with people that don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to be friends with. Also, all the parents out

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<v Speaker 4>there that go to my kids school, I love you.

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<v Speaker 4>I have some friends that we all their kids go

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<v Speaker 4>to this to the same school, and I thought, I

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<v Speaker 4>don't want to go to an alcohol for event on

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<v Speaker 4>a Friday, so I took a six pack. But the

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<v Speaker 4>difference is with the six pack is I wrapped all

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<v Speaker 4>the beers in and in a nappy like a cool No.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you just look like a fucking weird like a

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<v Speaker 1>weirdo sniffing nappies. I don't sniff my beers, bro, I

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<v Speaker 1>chuggle them. Are you hiding a beer in a nappy? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Like that looks weird. Like you're better off just going

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<v Speaker 1>to the toilet.

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<v Speaker 4>That's way creepy because the people think I'm doing some

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<v Speaker 4>illicit drugs in there.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't look any better walking around with like four nappies

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<v Speaker 2>in your hand. A nappy guy, how do you assume

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<v Speaker 2>I only had four? No one would be able to

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<v Speaker 2>suspect it.

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<v Speaker 3>What do we got?

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<v Speaker 1>That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the jokes on you because I got away with it.

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<v Speaker 4>When we were in the cool corner, people were coming

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<v Speaker 4>over again, what's going on over here? I'm like, nappy

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<v Speaker 4>beer can?

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<v Speaker 1>I make a suggestion.

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<v Speaker 2>You're better off getting a coke can and getting a

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<v Speaker 2>tolley and pouring a tolly into the coke can.

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<v Speaker 1>Too much work. You just look weird that you're holding

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<v Speaker 1>a dirty nappy. That's funny. That's part of the joke.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, don't question me.

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<v Speaker 4>It works. Sorry, it worked up until we were leaving

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<v Speaker 4>and I had to empty the bag full of beer

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<v Speaker 4>cans into the recycling being, which is full of like, so,

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<v Speaker 4>what do you do drink can?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you do with the nappies? Oh, they're in

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<v Speaker 1>there too. I'm taking a stand. April is a lucky lady.

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<v Speaker 4>If they're going to force me to be friends with people,

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<v Speaker 4>then I'm going to be drinking. Are your events not

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<v Speaker 4>alcohol free or do you go to them?

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't been to I don't know. Wow, we haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had any. Actually we had one wrap up party, not

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<v Speaker 1>wrap up party, rap up. We had one like welcome

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<v Speaker 1>party for the kindie okay, after hours on a Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was kids too. Kids went.

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<v Speaker 2>I was down the coast so I wasn't there. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you know if it was our colfer it I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I will ask for you.

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<v Speaker 4>I think if you do it look as a school okay,

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<v Speaker 4>I get it inside school hours. No not rocking up

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<v Speaker 4>to a midday assembly, and least anyone someone would be

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<v Speaker 4>if you have But like I think, if you're okay,

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<v Speaker 4>hey Friday afternoon, after school hours.

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<v Speaker 1>You should have a tipple. You should be allowed to

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<v Speaker 1>have a tipple. I'm not saying get like hammered. I

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<v Speaker 1>had like eight beers, but that's not the point. That's

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<v Speaker 1>I can. I can handle it. And then a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of math. But I think if you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have to say you're joking, because people might oh shit, yeah, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>might not know that you're not being I'm not a

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<v Speaker 2>math head yet, but I think that they should be.

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<v Speaker 1>You should be able to have a tipple. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that. Okay, but well done. Well done for

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<v Speaker 1>your ingenuity. I thought that was groundbreaking.

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<v Speaker 4>You are.

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<v Speaker 1>You're a very magiv. I'm the magiver of beer drinking.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, next time I'll come up with something a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more. I'll just strap it to a child.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be like, let me have a sip. Hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>did something before I pisced on the floor. I get it. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not that one. You found something that you shouldn't have.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a photo of ultrasound because we're having a baby.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa, But I kind of already knew who. I just

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<v Speaker 4>tell how I tried to pour your lovely wife, Laura. Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I'm holding photo of a young fetus,

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<v Speaker 1>a beautiful Johnson fetus. Is it a boy or a girl?

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<v Speaker 1>We don't know. I didn't shock right now.

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<v Speaker 4>I know I tried to pour Laura a drink when

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<v Speaker 4>we when you return from the jungle, and that drink

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<v Speaker 4>was denied, and I had a suspicion. I had suspicions.

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<v Speaker 4>I also haven't seen Laura in a while. Also, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>that's probably about it. And I know there's been talk

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<v Speaker 4>about it, and I just knew. Also, someone might have

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<v Speaker 4>spilled the beans.

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<v Speaker 1>Who who? I'm not telling me I know, because I

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<v Speaker 1>will get in trouble. Just tell me I forced it

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<v Speaker 1>out of someone. Who give me some ellie? Yeah? Did

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<v Speaker 1>you have her against the wall? Literally that war?

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<v Speaker 4>I have her against that wall right there? Because I

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<v Speaker 4>said to Laura, I was like, hey, I brought some

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<v Speaker 4>margaritas the can and it's look one can, it's like

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<v Speaker 4>two and a half standard drinks. Like I'm trying to

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<v Speaker 4>get lit here. Yeah, And I was like, do you

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<v Speaker 4>want to go halves? And she was like yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>very tentative. And I was and I look over your

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<v Speaker 4>mum and she was like.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, okay, she's signaling like, don't do that.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so Because she was so, I was like, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I did? After that?

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<v Speaker 4>I looked at her and I was like, come here,

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<v Speaker 4>and she was like she knew a white straightaway that

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<v Speaker 4>I was going to crack this safe immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, you better tell me right what's gone?

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<v Speaker 1>What did she say? She's a terrible liar And she

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<v Speaker 1>was like, no, I can't.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't tell me. That's exactly what she sounds like.

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<v Speaker 4>I could never I could never tell you and I

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<v Speaker 4>was like, what are we going to do. Is I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to ask you a question, You're going to nod

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<v Speaker 4>your head. And I was like, is Laura pregnant?

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<v Speaker 1>And she was like yeah. I was wondering where she

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<v Speaker 1>got those bruises from. Sorry about that. And then I

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<v Speaker 1>was like I was like, fucking okay, all right, I

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<v Speaker 1>know it and I know it now. And she was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>don't tell them.

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<v Speaker 4>I told you they beat me, so congratulations. I already knew,

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<v Speaker 4>but congratulations, this is going to ruin us financially.

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<v Speaker 1>So we got give me a look at this baby.

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<v Speaker 4>When are we?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Hang on November? No, sooner October October? Baby, I

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<v Speaker 1>was close. It's late October there, right, No, what it's in.

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<v Speaker 2>Mid We were trying before I went into the jungle,

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<v Speaker 2>just in case you didn't come back. The plan was

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<v Speaker 2>we said this year twenty twenty five, if we are

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<v Speaker 2>going to have a third, this will be the year

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<v Speaker 2>that it happens. Because I'm conscious that Marley and Lola

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<v Speaker 2>really close together. They're about eighteen months Nowlas just turned four,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, if it doesn't happen this year,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's a big gap. It's a big gap.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, it's like accidental gap, you know. We were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>it must have been an Actually it's like it's.

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<v Speaker 2>A bit of double edged sword in that great because Marley,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, the older she comes, the older she turns,

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<v Speaker 2>the more capable she is as a second third parent

0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.840
<v Speaker 2>the main parent, which is great. But then we're like,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't want you with that third child to still

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<v Speaker 2>be friends with Marley and Lola.

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<v Speaker 1>And the third child always gets forgotten about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they do, don't they You're the thing, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know exactly how how I turned out. But

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<v Speaker 2>we said we're going to try, and we're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>even said, we're like, if it doesn't happen before the jungle,

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<v Speaker 2>like by the time I come back, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be February, you know. And they're like, you know, for

0:17:47.400 --> 0:17:48.960
<v Speaker 2>those who don't know, it takes nine months for a

0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.800
<v Speaker 2>baby to grow in a woman's body. Then we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's pushing in the two thousand and twenty six.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we're kind of like, I have a summer baby,

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<v Speaker 4>like immediate, like you know, no October, it's still it's close.

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<v Speaker 2>But so and I said to Laura, if I make

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<v Speaker 2>it to the end of the jungle, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>fucking tell me, like if if you get if you'll

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<v Speaker 2>find out you're pregnant whilst I'm away when you come

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<v Speaker 2>on the show, Like tell me, right. So then obviously

0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:19.520
<v Speaker 2>she didn't tell me, and then I kind of didn't.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like front of mine. But we came back

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<v Speaker 2>from the jungle and I was like, oh, I guess

0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.440
<v Speaker 2>you're not pregnant, and she was like nah, I was

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about it and probably like not the wisest thing

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<v Speaker 2>for us to do, right We're in a really good

0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:33.760
<v Speaker 2>position right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yeah, do you know what you know?

0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I was like, you're probably right, Like what were we thinking?

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<v Speaker 2>Trying to have a third Man's pretty crazy? And then

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<v Speaker 2>and then there's a video. I'm assuming by the time

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<v Speaker 2>this comes out, this video will be posted. But Laura

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<v Speaker 2>then she goes, oh, someone gave me a scratchy and

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<v Speaker 2>you scratch it. And I was like, oh, a little

0:18:56.960 --> 0:18:59.960
<v Speaker 2>scratch scratchy. Sure, So I'm scratching it. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>a really bad quality scratchy, like it was at a

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<v Speaker 2>coin And as I was scratching off the top layer,

0:19:07.880 --> 0:19:10.520
<v Speaker 2>it would then take that first layer off and then

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<v Speaker 2>when you went to reveal like what's printed underneath, it

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<v Speaker 2>was taking the print off as well, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, this is.

0:19:18.440 --> 0:19:19.720
<v Speaker 1>I was like, and I was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was one of those hard ones where I was

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure it out, like it was like match

0:19:22.800 --> 0:19:24.359
<v Speaker 2>four of these icons, and if you get two of

0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:25.920
<v Speaker 2>this one, it means you get that one on the

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<v Speaker 2>first right, which underneath that one there.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that how you get pregnant. Do the scratchy. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm scratching and I'm like, this is shit, throw it

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<v Speaker 1>out and then she's like, keep on scratching, and then

0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you scratch it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like fifteen icons and then then like a

0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:43.960
<v Speaker 2>little tiny bottom right one it said you're having a baby,

0:19:44.000 --> 0:19:49.200
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, where's the money? And then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like I was very confused, and also I was

0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:53.920
<v Speaker 2>in the mindset of like do we want to have

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<v Speaker 2>a third?

0:19:54.560 --> 0:19:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You were like talking yourself out of it.

0:19:56.520 --> 0:20:01.960
<v Speaker 2>We were straddling both sides of the party. Nice I

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<v Speaker 2>was now I'm got visuals.

0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:03.920
<v Speaker 1>One hand.

0:20:03.920 --> 0:20:06.040
<v Speaker 2>We were like, it'll be amazing to have three kids.

0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.600
<v Speaker 2>You know, I grew up was one of five. Imagine

0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:11.600
<v Speaker 2>when we're older having a house full of three children

0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.320
<v Speaker 2>and their partner's beautiful. But then on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, we're kind of like out of the trenches.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, yeah, you like you're talking now. I don't want

0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:23.040
<v Speaker 4>to sound you're talking now. Back to bassin there.

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<v Speaker 2>Back to we don't we don't use nappies in the

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<v Speaker 2>house anymore. We don't use the pram anymore.

0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, my pram is covered in cobwebs. I looked at

0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.520
<v Speaker 4>it the other day and it was looking back at

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<v Speaker 4>me like shut up, yeah, where now. I spoke to

0:20:38.600 --> 0:20:41.639
<v Speaker 4>someone who has a newborn, and I was like, what's

0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:42.040
<v Speaker 4>that like?

0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:48.240
<v Speaker 1>It sucks. It's I've forgotten. I've forgotten all those years

0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:50.480
<v Speaker 1>of what it's what it's like having a third kid.

0:20:50.520 --> 0:20:52.840
<v Speaker 1>I knew you would. I knew it was going to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I just did. I thought maybe next year.

0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.520
<v Speaker 2>I also when when I found out in that moment

0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.000
<v Speaker 2>when we had the scratchyet, I think we were at

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<v Speaker 2>what we were maybe like twelve weeks, eleven weeks, so

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<v Speaker 2>we have it. We didn't even have like the big tests.

0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:09.760
<v Speaker 2>So then I also was conscious of like, you know,

0:21:09.840 --> 0:21:12.720
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to it's very early days. I don't

0:21:12.720 --> 0:21:14.560
<v Speaker 2>want to celebrate it and be like, we're having a

0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:19.440
<v Speaker 2>kid because we've our cycle. When I say hours, Laura's

0:21:19.840 --> 0:21:23.920
<v Speaker 2>we've had first child was a miscarriage. Then Laura was

0:21:23.920 --> 0:21:26.959
<v Speaker 2>pregnant with Marley. Then after Miley was born, she got

0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:30.840
<v Speaker 2>pregnant again. We lost that child at around twelve weeks shit,

0:21:31.560 --> 0:21:33.919
<v Speaker 2>and then we had Lala. So you know, I'm kind

0:21:33.960 --> 0:21:36.280
<v Speaker 2>of looking at the roadmap of which we just come

0:21:36.359 --> 0:21:37.760
<v Speaker 2>down and I'm like, well, we're kind of due for

0:21:37.760 --> 0:21:38.800
<v Speaker 2>another miscarriage, so.

0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:42.240
<v Speaker 1>How many weeks are we now? So we are currently

0:21:43.520 --> 0:21:47.920
<v Speaker 1>because I'm equally as involved in this together, Laura is

0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:50.960
<v Speaker 1>currently I've lost count. She's fourteen or fifteen weeks. Wow.

0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:54.159
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, So we went and had went, had the

0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:56.840
<v Speaker 2>few tests done, but there's a lot of I thought

0:21:56.880 --> 0:21:58.440
<v Speaker 2>there was just one test at twelve weeks.

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:01.520
<v Speaker 1>I think just opt in for a few different there's

0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:04.040
<v Speaker 1>a few different ones, and I was kind of waiting

0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:07.440
<v Speaker 1>for the bad news, like for something to go wrong,

0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and I was like excited at the moment, but then

0:22:09.359 --> 0:22:11.879
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you know, until where I don't know,

0:22:11.960 --> 0:22:14.720
<v Speaker 1>I guess like you're holding the baby in your hand, Yeah,

0:22:14.760 --> 0:22:15.960
<v Speaker 1>exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I was every test I was kind of

0:22:18.320 --> 0:22:20.399
<v Speaker 2>waiting and they're you know, taking all the measurements and

0:22:20.600 --> 0:22:24.680
<v Speaker 2>like the heartbeat and everything else, just waiting for something

0:22:24.720 --> 0:22:25.160
<v Speaker 2>to go wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very weird.

0:22:27.000 --> 0:22:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you recall ash when you go

0:22:29.560 --> 0:22:34.120
<v Speaker 2>in excuse my ignorance here ultrasound. Oh I got sea sick.

0:22:34.440 --> 0:22:37.760
<v Speaker 2>That's right, you passed out. But there was a student

0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:42.000
<v Speaker 2>doctor who was in the room. He was very good looking,

0:22:43.160 --> 0:22:46.680
<v Speaker 2>very good looking, and like the ultrasound. It's not that invasive,

0:22:46.760 --> 0:22:50.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, if anyone's well, but you have one where

0:22:50.080 --> 0:22:52.440
<v Speaker 2>they like, you know, you pull your pants down quite

0:22:52.480 --> 0:22:54.760
<v Speaker 2>a bit and your belly is exposed and they scan it.

0:22:56.359 --> 0:22:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Then they have the one that's like a big old

0:23:00.320 --> 0:23:05.120
<v Speaker 2>banana size like instrument, and I was in the chair

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:07.440
<v Speaker 2>in the corner and it felt like is it called

0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:08.080
<v Speaker 2>the cock chair?

0:23:11.640 --> 0:23:14.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you were cocked. My guy, a good looking doctor

0:23:15.600 --> 0:23:17.080
<v Speaker 1>inserted something into your wife.

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<v Speaker 2>They're good looking doctor did the optra sound over the belly,

0:23:22.440 --> 0:23:24.439
<v Speaker 2>and then they were like, we'll be back in one second.

0:23:24.480 --> 0:23:26.199
<v Speaker 2>And then Laura was like, I wonder if he's going

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:28.399
<v Speaker 2>to do like the next part, which is like the

0:23:28.440 --> 0:23:30.840
<v Speaker 2>banana rocket, And I was like, hope.

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:33.920
<v Speaker 1>So I'm joking popcorn.

0:23:34.680 --> 0:23:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I was.

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:38.960
<v Speaker 1>Let me get the tissues out, beautiful.

0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:42.439
<v Speaker 2>He didn't come back. He didn't come back. We had

0:23:42.480 --> 0:23:46.640
<v Speaker 2>the lovely older doctor female do that part.

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Laura was like, thank god it wasn't him. He was gorgeous,

0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.080
<v Speaker 1>gorgeous young doctor. Anyway.

0:23:55.160 --> 0:24:01.240
<v Speaker 2>Here, So we're still where we're fifteen weeks. We've had all,

0:24:01.320 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 2>like all the major tests done. Everything's looking good and

0:24:04.400 --> 0:24:05.719
<v Speaker 2>everything's tracking nicely.

0:24:06.320 --> 0:24:08.040
<v Speaker 1>And with the gender, you're not going to tell anyone

0:24:08.080 --> 0:24:12.879
<v Speaker 1>of this. The big question was big question was Marley

0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:13.280
<v Speaker 1>and Lola.

0:24:13.440 --> 0:24:19.320
<v Speaker 2>We found out at birth the sex, and I was like,

0:24:19.440 --> 0:24:22.040
<v Speaker 2>this is great, like it's lovely. But first child, I

0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:25.320
<v Speaker 2>was happy with whatever. Second child, I thought everyone else

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:28.119
<v Speaker 2>thought that Lola was going to be a boy, so

0:24:28.200 --> 0:24:29.560
<v Speaker 2>I just had it in my mind that it was

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 2>going to be a boy. So there was just a

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:33.719
<v Speaker 2>split second. But like gender surprise where you're like, oh,

0:24:33.760 --> 0:24:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I wasn't expecting that. It's like you're thinking you're going

0:24:35.840 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 2>to get a chocolate cake and you got a sponge.

0:24:37.880 --> 0:24:39.879
<v Speaker 2>A sponge is still great. I'll eat a sponge, no

0:24:40.000 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 2>questions asked. But at the same time, I just was

0:24:41.840 --> 0:24:44.200
<v Speaker 2>expecting a chocolate cake and mudcake. Do you know what

0:24:44.240 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying, You're picking up what I'm putting down.

0:24:45.920 --> 0:24:47.919
<v Speaker 1>I am, And now I'm just hungry.

0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 2>And so I just said to Laura, like, I want

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:54.200
<v Speaker 2>to go into birth because it's all about me.

0:24:55.840 --> 0:25:00.080
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to know. And I think childbirth is beautiful.

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 2>Enough of the moment that you don't need it to

0:25:01.680 --> 0:25:04.760
<v Speaker 2>be at another like added level of surprise. But Laura

0:25:04.880 --> 0:25:06.720
<v Speaker 2>was like, how amazing. You don't get many surprises in

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:08.080
<v Speaker 2>life for what reason?

0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Like we get what's the yeah, yeah, yeah, what's the right?

0:25:10.520 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, well, let's let's pad this out.

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.280
<v Speaker 2>We can have a surprise now, and then childbirth is

0:25:14.359 --> 0:25:16.520
<v Speaker 2>still great. It's not like you're not going to enjoy

0:25:16.600 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 2>childbirth because you know the sex of your child.

0:25:18.320 --> 0:25:19.800
<v Speaker 1>You're still going to enjoy it. It's going to be

0:25:19.960 --> 0:25:21.480
<v Speaker 1>the sexy child is going to be the sexuy child

0:25:21.560 --> 0:25:22.600
<v Speaker 1>for the rest of his life. Yeah.

0:25:22.680 --> 0:25:24.639
<v Speaker 2>So well, so I was like, let's find out prior

0:25:25.000 --> 0:25:28.760
<v Speaker 2>so a bit of debating, I won nice because you

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.280
<v Speaker 2>know this is we are not going for a fourth Yeah,

0:25:32.720 --> 0:25:33.800
<v Speaker 2>I think we're.

0:25:33.640 --> 0:25:38.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, Laura's forty, she's thirty nine, she's young and fertile.

0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 1>She's not, well, she's a geriatric.

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:45.240
<v Speaker 4>She's not, she's medically it's just thirty nine medically, yeah, yeah,

0:25:46.000 --> 0:25:49.840
<v Speaker 4>old of those medically medical medically is like we're saying

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:51.080
<v Speaker 4>she's geriatric in afford it.

0:25:51.119 --> 0:25:52.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like imob.

0:25:52.280 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 4>Technically called to the B and I scale how old

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 4>are these thinks? They're not wrong, that's mean, but geriatric

0:25:59.160 --> 0:25:59.720
<v Speaker 4>at forty?

0:25:59.800 --> 0:26:03.280
<v Speaker 1>What for pregnancy? For pregnant? I was going to say,

0:26:03.359 --> 0:26:06.480
<v Speaker 1>when was this scientific record kept from the forties.

0:26:06.880 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 3>It's just when it comes to pregnancy, it's very offensive.

0:26:09.800 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 3>That is offensive. I'm offended for her. And she's thirty nine?

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:15.159
<v Speaker 1>Is she she's thirty nine?

0:26:15.240 --> 0:26:22.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, which is almost forty. Sorry, what is the new thirty? Anyway, congratulations,

0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 4>that's amazing, Thank you very much. Like I said, I

0:26:25.760 --> 0:26:27.720
<v Speaker 4>knew it was coming. I didn't know it was coming

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:29.720
<v Speaker 4>this early, and I also was waiting for you to

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:33.320
<v Speaker 4>tell me because I knew. And then also I found

0:26:33.400 --> 0:26:37.080
<v Speaker 4>that over there and I walked in and I said,

0:26:37.200 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 4>do you have something to tell me? And you gave

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:42.200
<v Speaker 4>me this look like like no, and I was like,

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 4>oh no, embracing for the worst. So I'm I'm glad

0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:49.240
<v Speaker 4>it's the best, the best result, Thank you very much.

0:26:49.400 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 2>And so I didn't tell you sooner, No that I

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.480
<v Speaker 2>wanted to surprise you on the pot, but fucking that

0:26:53.640 --> 0:26:56.680
<v Speaker 2>was harder than I thought, because you are a detective

0:26:56.800 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 2>I am.

0:26:57.480 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 4>Do you know I lived next door to a good

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 4>friend of mine a while ago across the hall, and

0:27:03.440 --> 0:27:07.280
<v Speaker 4>I also picked twice when she was pregnant without them

0:27:07.359 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 4>before they told us i'd have a gift.

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Jess is not pregnant gift. That's a gift. Point someone out.

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:20.320
<v Speaker 1>This might sound weird, but I don't have a kink

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:22.920
<v Speaker 1>with pregnant women. Oh yeah, you don't.

0:27:23.400 --> 0:27:26.760
<v Speaker 2>But I find Laura at the moment, she's popping a

0:27:26.840 --> 0:27:30.119
<v Speaker 2>lot more than the previous pregnancies.

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:34.160
<v Speaker 1>Wait normally works. She also doesn't answer my calls.

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 2>She's been avoiding your bellies popped like I think with Marley,

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:41.440
<v Speaker 2>she didn't pop right until the final trimester. Whereas now

0:27:41.960 --> 0:27:44.640
<v Speaker 2>that belly's out and Laura's like, oh, I just feel

0:27:44.720 --> 0:27:47.680
<v Speaker 2>so fat. I hate it, And I'm like, damn girl,

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, whoh ring that belly?

0:27:52.840 --> 0:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.280
<v Speaker 4>Get the vitamin E cream out and rather it's just like,

0:27:57.280 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 4>because you know it helps the trench marks right.

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Get in there, man, deep in there, you know, like

0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:12.120
<v Speaker 1>all over, just the belly, just a belly. Feet. Work

0:28:12.160 --> 0:28:17.520
<v Speaker 1>on the feet. Nah, that Laura has dry feet. I'm

0:28:17.560 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>not a foot guy, if I'm honest. The hands of

0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the legs.

0:28:24.920 --> 0:28:27.880
<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, I'm gonna I look forward to lubing Laura

0:28:28.280 --> 0:28:31.160
<v Speaker 3>luber ride with a vitamin E cream or some baby oil,

0:28:31.320 --> 0:28:32.040
<v Speaker 3>slipping slider.

0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>I find a horse what what do you mean?

0:28:38.960 --> 0:28:41.640
<v Speaker 4>Gymnastics and there's that thing they get get all handsy

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 4>and they they fling their legs around.

0:28:43.760 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 3>That's a I'm going to ride Laura like a pommel horse.

0:28:47.960 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 3>You're ready, She's going to be the apparatus. I hope

0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:50.520
<v Speaker 3>she's ready.

0:28:50.800 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>She would be ready.

0:28:52.400 --> 0:28:56.000
<v Speaker 2>There is no other moment when I find Laura more

0:28:56.040 --> 0:28:57.440
<v Speaker 2>attractive than when she's pregnant.

0:28:57.520 --> 0:29:00.600
<v Speaker 4>You've got to kink my guy. I mean, get my

0:29:00.680 --> 0:29:03.959
<v Speaker 4>list of pregnant women up here. I've got a folder.

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I just I don't know, it's beautiful. Keep my hands

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>off that. I can't wait for my for you page

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:20.600
<v Speaker 1>to just be pregnant. Yeah, we're also. I haven't celebrated it.

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 2>Really. I have moments where I'm like, oh, wow, you know,

0:29:23.160 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 2>what's it gonna try to envision having a newborn baby

0:29:27.040 --> 0:29:29.000
<v Speaker 2>in the house and I'm trying to imagine it at

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:31.440
<v Speaker 2>the same time. Every time I start to imagine it,

0:29:31.800 --> 0:29:34.080
<v Speaker 2>I put the handbreak up because I'm like, I know,

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't wanna.

0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:39.080
<v Speaker 4>Is it because of you put your handbreak up because

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:41.160
<v Speaker 4>you don't want to celebrate in case something happened.

0:29:41.680 --> 0:29:42.440
<v Speaker 1>Is that what I'm picking up?

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because we've been down that road a number of times,

0:29:45.680 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 2>and especially like the the first time Laura was pregnant,

0:29:50.000 --> 0:29:54.120
<v Speaker 2>which is obviously each pregnancy is special, but the very

0:29:54.280 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 2>first time, Like, there is no greater change in your

0:29:56.120 --> 0:29:57.880
<v Speaker 2>life as an adult from when you go from no

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.680
<v Speaker 2>kids to having kids, and so that first one is

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 2>the biggest moment of all, I think, And that first

0:30:04.120 --> 0:30:07.040
<v Speaker 2>one is you know, you, that's when I don't know

0:30:07.040 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 2>what you were like, but I was, you know, I

0:30:10.080 --> 0:30:13.040
<v Speaker 2>was spending every second imagining like, oh my god, what

0:30:13.160 --> 0:30:15.840
<v Speaker 2>is it going to be like being a parent, Like

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 2>this is actually going to happen. And then when that's

0:30:18.440 --> 0:30:22.480
<v Speaker 2>taken away from you, you know, there's no greater emotional

0:30:22.520 --> 0:30:24.840
<v Speaker 2>whiplash than having a miscarriage.

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I haven't thankfully I haven't had to experience that.

0:30:30.240 --> 0:30:32.800
<v Speaker 4>But also I think like what we do on this

0:30:32.880 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 4>pot is we do practice. We do preach a little

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:39.400
<v Speaker 4>bit is like don't don't go through all that stuff alone,

0:30:39.880 --> 0:30:42.880
<v Speaker 4>like don't feel that you can't celebrate your wins.

0:30:43.400 --> 0:30:46.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think I think as as we get closer,

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.840
<v Speaker 2>because in my mind, we're still like at the beginning

0:30:49.920 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 2>of still of the of the pregnancy, and even like

0:30:53.160 --> 0:30:55.920
<v Speaker 2>when Laura was pregnant with Mali and pregnant with Lola,

0:30:56.000 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 2>there was there was lots of times throughout where we

0:30:59.800 --> 0:31:02.320
<v Speaker 2>were super anxious because we're just waiting for something to

0:31:02.360 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>go wrong, and you have little moments where baby doesn't

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:06.440
<v Speaker 2>move that much, and you might have one or two

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:10.200
<v Speaker 2>day period where previously baby was really active and now

0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.400
<v Speaker 2>it's not, and so you just, you know, like you're

0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 2>just waiting for those signs that something might be going wrong.

0:31:16.520 --> 0:31:18.840
<v Speaker 2>And it's so hard because you know, when you do

0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:22.280
<v Speaker 2>experience a miscarriage, like wasn't as if Laura did anything wrong.

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's not as if she like behaves in

0:31:25.720 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>a certain way which encouraged a miscarriage to happen.

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:31.160
<v Speaker 1>It's just, unfortunately, just part of life.

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.000
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't meant to be just happened, and so you

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.920
<v Speaker 2>just you just got to be this passenger on the

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:38.120
<v Speaker 2>journey and just hope and pray that you know, it's

0:31:38.160 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 2>going to turn out all right.

0:31:40.120 --> 0:31:45.400
<v Speaker 4>Fortunately I haven't had to experience that feeling of a miscarriage,

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:49.000
<v Speaker 4>but when it does happen, what sort of feelings come

0:31:49.080 --> 0:31:49.719
<v Speaker 4>to the surface.

0:31:49.880 --> 0:31:53.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the first time it happened, we were overseas

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and Laura experienced a little bit of bleeding, and that

0:31:59.480 --> 0:32:03.880
<v Speaker 2>bleeding progress, it got a little bit heavier, and I

0:32:03.920 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 2>remember her saying to me, like, oh, like, there's a

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.720
<v Speaker 2>lot of blood here, and you know, you instantly you

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 2>realize it's not a good sign, and there's not a

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 2>whole lot you can do, Like you just have to

0:32:17.120 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 2>like a you're kind of hoping that the bleeding stops,

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.880
<v Speaker 2>and then you go to the doctors, you get scans done,

0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:28.960
<v Speaker 2>and you know, you're kind of just hoping, hoping that

0:32:29.080 --> 0:32:33.280
<v Speaker 2>you get good news. And I think I I think

0:32:33.320 --> 0:32:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I was preparing myself for the bad news. There was

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 2>so much bleeding over a longer period of time, so

0:32:39.480 --> 0:32:40.960
<v Speaker 2>I kind of thought to myself, like my.

0:32:41.080 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Intuition was that this is really not good and do

0:32:44.800 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>they give you a reason? There's no reason.

0:32:47.720 --> 0:32:50.200
<v Speaker 2>So we found out we had scans done, there was

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:52.040
<v Speaker 2>no longer a heartbeat, so we knew that we had

0:32:52.080 --> 0:32:55.920
<v Speaker 2>lost the baby. And there's not the hardest thing is

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:57.600
<v Speaker 2>there's not like a specific reason.

0:32:58.400 --> 0:32:58.560
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:03.640
<v Speaker 2>It's not like they say, because you did X, we

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:06.600
<v Speaker 2>lost the baby, you know, which almost would be easier to.

0:33:06.720 --> 0:33:10.120
<v Speaker 1>Stomach because you know what to do not to do

0:33:10.280 --> 0:33:12.680
<v Speaker 1>next time. Yeah, that's it exactly if it was that,

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:15.920
<v Speaker 1>But it's not because you know, I remember for Laura,

0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:20.880
<v Speaker 1>her biggest thought was why I've done something to make

0:33:20.960 --> 0:33:23.600
<v Speaker 1>this pregnancy when she hasn't, not at all.

0:33:23.880 --> 0:33:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And like that, the biggest bit of communication was

0:33:27.880 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>to Laura that this is not your fault, Like you

0:33:30.040 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 2>haven't caused this. You know, there's nothing wrong with you

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 2>because obviously you're carrying the baby. And she's like, well,

0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 2>maybe I'm not a good carrier. Yeah, maybe there's something

0:33:38.840 --> 0:33:40.760
<v Speaker 2>wrong with my body that means that I'm not going

0:33:40.800 --> 0:33:43.440
<v Speaker 2>to be able to carry a baby. And like Laura

0:33:43.600 --> 0:33:45.160
<v Speaker 2>was so worried that it was something that she had

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:46.680
<v Speaker 2>done her there's something that was wrong with her.

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.080
<v Speaker 1>So you're trying to like trying to.

0:33:49.080 --> 0:33:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Communicate and reassure her that like she hasn't done anything

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:56.320
<v Speaker 2>wrong here. The best way that I could digest the

0:33:56.400 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 2>situation is that you kind of think like it was

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:02.440
<v Speaker 2>always going to happen this way, and they they can

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 2>test for level of hormones and sometimes like the more

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 2>hormones you have is a good sign.

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.000
<v Speaker 1>But my mum told me this.

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.320
<v Speaker 2>She just said that sometimes the body just has to

0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 2>do a test run and there's no like medical backing

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 2>for this. I think it was just an easy way

0:34:18.320 --> 0:34:20.080
<v Speaker 2>of my body. It was an easy way for me

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:22.320
<v Speaker 2>to kind of see the situation from the point of

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:26.160
<v Speaker 2>view that it was just body making sure that everything

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:29.040
<v Speaker 2>was where it needed to be to prepare for the

0:34:29.600 --> 0:34:32.480
<v Speaker 2>one that was going to be the one and so

0:34:33.440 --> 0:34:37.040
<v Speaker 2>but yeah, and afterwards, you kind of think, from my perspective,

0:34:37.120 --> 0:34:41.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, I was obviously upset because that baby that

0:34:41.360 --> 0:34:44.440
<v Speaker 2>I was imagining was gone. It was you know, it

0:34:44.600 --> 0:34:47.239
<v Speaker 2>was never going to be. And then you can't help

0:34:47.280 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 2>it think like what could have been, Like what could

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.840
<v Speaker 2>have been that little baby if it had made it,

0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 2>and you can't help it think about that outcome.

0:34:57.760 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 1>But then as well, for law.

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:04.160
<v Speaker 2>She's dealing with the emotional distress of a miscarriage, but

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.720
<v Speaker 2>in the physical side as well, you know, it's really uncomfortable.

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:08.200
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:35:08.280 --> 0:35:12.520
<v Speaker 2>It's I'm lucky that for a guy, you know, I

0:35:12.600 --> 0:35:14.279
<v Speaker 2>could go for a run and try and get my

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:18.320
<v Speaker 2>mind off things, whereas doorphins and totally do something to

0:35:18.360 --> 0:35:21.200
<v Speaker 2>distract myself. But for a woman, you know, they're dealing

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:25.280
<v Speaker 2>with it like every second of the day. Like physically

0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:29.960
<v Speaker 2>it hurts as well. So it's it's there's a constant

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.840
<v Speaker 2>reminder of what they're experiencing, so they don't have the

0:35:32.920 --> 0:35:35.279
<v Speaker 2>ability to switch off from it.

0:35:35.640 --> 0:35:38.760
<v Speaker 1>For your first one, what point how far along?

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're about twelve weeks, Okay, so it can

0:35:41.560 --> 0:35:45.400
<v Speaker 4>happen and figure my ignorance again, it can happen in

0:35:45.960 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 4>different circums a different times, right.

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's obviously a higher risk of miscarriage earlier on. Yeah,

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 2>and so there's kind of that reassurance in my mind,

0:35:55.400 --> 0:35:58.320
<v Speaker 2>like now I'm like, okay, Well, every every week that

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:00.680
<v Speaker 2>we don't have any issue is a week that we're

0:36:00.719 --> 0:36:03.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, not the clear, but we're kind of

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:07.600
<v Speaker 2>itching towards being in a place where we don't have

0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:11.920
<v Speaker 2>to worry every day. About it and as hard as well,

0:36:11.920 --> 0:36:15.880
<v Speaker 2>because when you're in the first twelve weeks, we've been

0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:17.279
<v Speaker 2>conditioned not to tell people.

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:18.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure.

0:36:18.320 --> 0:36:21.120
<v Speaker 2>And I remember mates who would be like eight weeks

0:36:21.200 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 2>pregnant and they would tell people that. I'd be like,

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:25.640
<v Speaker 2>what are you doing, Like you can't you shouldn't be

0:36:25.680 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 2>telling people, Whereas I actually think now it's really stupid.

0:36:29.080 --> 0:36:31.040
<v Speaker 2>I think whoever said you shouldn't tell anyone before twelve

0:36:31.120 --> 0:36:34.400
<v Speaker 2>we look back at that, you're like, tell everyone.

0:36:34.080 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 4>Because it's a thing as well, Like when I was saying,

0:36:36.400 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 4>like I was trying to find the words where it's like, yeah, okay,

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.200
<v Speaker 4>you're not going to be celebrating because you've got this

0:36:41.440 --> 0:36:45.360
<v Speaker 4>fear still, which it's completely normal. But then also it's like,

0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:49.960
<v Speaker 4>why will suffer alone with it totally because you're already

0:36:50.239 --> 0:36:53.760
<v Speaker 4>I mean, for Laura in the first instance that happened,

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:56.279
<v Speaker 4>You've got the physical side of it. You mentioned the

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.439
<v Speaker 4>mental side of it, and also the self worth side

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:00.160
<v Speaker 4>of it as well. But then also it's like like

0:37:01.280 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 4>I can only and it's going to lead me into

0:37:03.600 --> 0:37:05.560
<v Speaker 4>my next question. I can only really talk to Matt

0:37:05.600 --> 0:37:08.880
<v Speaker 4>about this. But my next question is if we're all

0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 4>out here talking about it. As someone who's close to

0:37:11.840 --> 0:37:13.920
<v Speaker 4>Laura other than you, how do you think that they

0:37:14.000 --> 0:37:15.240
<v Speaker 4>could have supported.

0:37:15.280 --> 0:37:17.640
<v Speaker 2>It's hard because you know, if someone is in the

0:37:17.680 --> 0:37:20.440
<v Speaker 2>early stages of pregnancy, unless you'r ash Wicks where you're

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:23.040
<v Speaker 2>very dialed into being able to guess it, no one's

0:37:23.040 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 2>going to know. And so it's it's a really heavy

0:37:26.160 --> 0:37:29.920
<v Speaker 2>topic to bring up with someone who doesn't know what

0:37:29.960 --> 0:37:33.040
<v Speaker 2>you're going through. You know, if in that moment after

0:37:33.120 --> 0:37:36.120
<v Speaker 2>it had happened, and someone asked me a question of hey, Matt,

0:37:36.160 --> 0:37:39.680
<v Speaker 2>how are you, if you respond and go, well, we

0:37:39.800 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 2>just found out we lost a baby, You're like, first

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:45.360
<v Speaker 2>of all, shit, you didn't know your Laura was pregnant

0:37:45.400 --> 0:37:46.080
<v Speaker 2>and then you've lost it.

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 1>Like, it's it's such a big it's a big, heavy subject, heavy.

0:37:50.280 --> 0:37:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Subject, you know, and obviously there's a few people who

0:37:53.000 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 2>were that close to you where you can bring it up.

0:37:54.800 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 2>Like obviously my family, they like we could talk about it,

0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.400
<v Speaker 2>but because we didn't tell anyone that we would trying,

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 2>We didn't tell anyone that Laura was pregnant when we

0:38:02.600 --> 0:38:04.840
<v Speaker 2>lost the baby. Yeah, we were just it was just

0:38:04.880 --> 0:38:07.200
<v Speaker 2>something that we internalized and so I didn't. I didn't

0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 2>bring it up with anybody as well, and I was

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to bring it up and draw attention

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 2>to something that I don't know if Laura wanted people

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 2>to know about. But I think the biggest surprise is

0:38:17.480 --> 0:38:20.279
<v Speaker 2>it is so so common. Yeah, so many people know

0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:22.239
<v Speaker 2>about it. Laura spoke about it on Life on Cut

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 2>after it happened, like a little while after, and there

0:38:25.520 --> 0:38:27.839
<v Speaker 2>was surprising how many people came out and said, oh,

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:32.719
<v Speaker 2>we've also experienced that, because in my head, stupidly, I

0:38:32.800 --> 0:38:34.760
<v Speaker 2>thought it was something that was like one in twenty

0:38:34.920 --> 0:38:36.440
<v Speaker 2>or like you know, yeah, it's like.

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:39.319
<v Speaker 1>One and two almost. It's wild. It's wild how big.

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 1>And before you have kids, you have no idea about

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>that stat whatsoever.

0:38:43.600 --> 0:38:46.720
<v Speaker 4>Before you fall pregnant, you have no idea about the stats,

0:38:46.800 --> 0:38:50.719
<v Speaker 4>the complications, the variations, the variables, everything involved until you're

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 4>actually going through it. But like, looking back, do you

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 4>think that if you after it happened the first time,

0:38:58.000 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 4>do you think if that you didn't internalize it so

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:02.880
<v Speaker 4>much then and you were more vocal with it about

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 4>closer to you, do you think it would have helped

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 4>you with your worries now? Oh?

0:39:07.000 --> 0:39:09.040
<v Speaker 2>No, I don't think it would have helped my worry Now.

0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I think I think if we did, like Heaven forbid, touch,

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 2>would we lose this baby? I know that I would

0:39:17.120 --> 0:39:19.719
<v Speaker 2>tell a lot more people. I would be so much

0:39:19.760 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 2>more vocal with it and open with it and not

0:39:21.719 --> 0:39:25.000
<v Speaker 2>feel like I was being such a burden in bringing

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 2>it up with other people in conversation.

0:39:27.680 --> 0:39:29.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and do you think if you knew that back

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 4>then you would have been able to process about it? Oh?

0:39:34.280 --> 0:39:38.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, It's like, I'm very fortunate that I haven't had

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 2>to deal with a huge amount of trauma in my life,

0:39:40.520 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 2>and that is probably one of the ones that was

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 2>like top of the list. The moments where you talk

0:39:44.280 --> 0:39:47.520
<v Speaker 2>about it makes it so much easier to make sense

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:49.920
<v Speaker 2>of the whole situation. You know, It's it can be

0:39:49.960 --> 0:39:52.799
<v Speaker 2>a dangerous thing just having these internalized thoughts that never

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:56.240
<v Speaker 2>get the chance to have a voice out in the open.

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:59.120
<v Speaker 4>It needs the oxygen one hundred percent, right, because, like

0:39:59.239 --> 0:40:01.919
<v Speaker 4>we're talking, so many people are going through the same

0:40:02.000 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 4>thing but doing it in silence. And then think of

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.399
<v Speaker 4>how all those people that go through it don't try

0:40:07.440 --> 0:40:10.320
<v Speaker 4>again because they're too scared or haven't had a conversation

0:40:10.400 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 4>with someone like you who's tried again and again and

0:40:13.400 --> 0:40:17.879
<v Speaker 4>it's happened again, and then you're willing to go through

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 4>that again for the ultimate reward, which is parenthood.

0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:22.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.280
<v Speaker 2>And I think the message to anyone who has experienced

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:30.000
<v Speaker 2>a miscarriage is that it's not your fault and unfortunately,

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 2>for whatever reason, it just wasn't meant to be. So,

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:36.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I will as time progresses, I will start

0:40:36.440 --> 0:40:37.600
<v Speaker 2>to celebrate it more.

0:40:38.040 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 1>I hope so. And there's a part of me that goes,

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>am I an idiot for having a third child? Are

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:45.480
<v Speaker 1>we like the moment? Yes?

0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:45.800
<v Speaker 3>And no.

0:40:46.520 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 2>The moment we've just come to a point where we

0:40:48.480 --> 0:40:52.720
<v Speaker 2>finally kind of got control to a certain degree with parenting.

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:54.040
<v Speaker 2>We feel like we're getting the upper hand.

0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:55.920
<v Speaker 1>The kids understand what you're saying.

0:40:56.160 --> 0:41:00.120
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, they might not do what you've said that

0:41:00.320 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 4>you're at a stage now where both girls are at

0:41:02.640 --> 0:41:05.319
<v Speaker 4>an age where they understand if you did raise your

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 4>voice enough, you could get.

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Some law and order.

0:41:08.160 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 4>You know.

0:41:08.560 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I can't begin to tell you how much easier parenting

0:41:11.560 --> 0:41:13.680
<v Speaker 2>is when you can communicate with your child and they

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 2>can say I'm hungry, i'm cold, I have a saw

0:41:16.560 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 2>a tummy, I have a headache.

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I want a glass of water. That is an amazing

0:41:20.920 --> 0:41:23.000
<v Speaker 1>position to be in. And I'm like far out to

0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:24.880
<v Speaker 1>get to the point where I've got a little blob

0:41:25.040 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 1>back to a guessing game. The guessing game, I'm like,

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>ash am I an idiot? No? Okay, great, No, I

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:36.279
<v Speaker 1>don't think you're an idiot. Honestly, not for me. If

0:41:36.320 --> 0:41:37.520
<v Speaker 1>you guys have made the decision.

0:41:37.920 --> 0:41:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Obstetrician was like, we came in and the first thing

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:43.560
<v Speaker 2>you said was what the hell are you guys doing?

0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 1>You're out.

0:41:47.000 --> 0:41:49.080
<v Speaker 4>You're well and truly going to be outnumbered, which is

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:50.399
<v Speaker 4>something that people warn you about.

0:41:50.480 --> 0:41:52.279
<v Speaker 1>But you just don't know.

0:41:52.400 --> 0:41:55.719
<v Speaker 4>If you're looking at what my life's going to be

0:41:55.880 --> 0:41:58.759
<v Speaker 4>like with three and you think that's what makes this

0:41:59.080 --> 0:42:02.239
<v Speaker 4>family feel plea, then you haven't done the wrong.

0:42:02.120 --> 0:42:05.080
<v Speaker 2>Actould you know who helped me? Who is Aimes on

0:42:05.160 --> 0:42:08.279
<v Speaker 2>the poetic When she was like it's good, yeah, this

0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 2>is on you, Ames. But when she was like, Ames's

0:42:10.960 --> 0:42:12.319
<v Speaker 2>I guess we had on a little while ago. She's

0:42:12.320 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 2>got four kids, and she was like, no, it gets easier,

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:16.439
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, where's Laura?

0:42:18.320 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 4>No, congratulations and thank you for sharing all of that

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 4>with us off the back of that, Matthew, there's a

0:42:24.000 --> 0:42:26.480
<v Speaker 4>very important decision that needs to be made and you've

0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 4>got plenty of time to do that, and that is

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:33.399
<v Speaker 4>what you were going to name this child. Now, there

0:42:33.480 --> 0:42:36.320
<v Speaker 4>are I'm not gonna say good and bad names, but

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:39.680
<v Speaker 4>let's face it, there are names that you associate with

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:40.400
<v Speaker 4>bad behave.

0:42:40.719 --> 0:42:40.919
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:42:41.000 --> 0:42:45.800
<v Speaker 2>I think everyone grows up and names have a certain

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.680
<v Speaker 2>image attached to it based on the kids that.

0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:51.759
<v Speaker 1>You went to school with. Yeah, oh for sure. Yeah.

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:54.320
<v Speaker 2>And so there are names where, like Laura and I

0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:56.560
<v Speaker 2>were going through potential names at the moment and I'm like, well,

0:42:56.600 --> 0:42:58.040
<v Speaker 2>we can't call it that because I had one of

0:42:58.080 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 2>those names at my.

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 1>School and that were so naughty. So I thought we

0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>should do like our top three noughty.

0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:09.600
<v Speaker 4>Names, naughty names, Matthew, Okay, all right, So my first

0:43:09.680 --> 0:43:13.800
<v Speaker 4>one Billy. Yeah, we used to have a kid at school, Billy.

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:18.600
<v Speaker 4>He's stunk, but also he was such.

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:19.359
<v Speaker 1>A naughty kid.

0:43:19.840 --> 0:43:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Billy's are very naughty, Yeah, very cheeky. For me,

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 2>it's more of a it's a j names that start

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:27.200
<v Speaker 2>with jay.

0:43:27.480 --> 0:43:30.799
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah. So number three for me is gi Ji

0:43:31.560 --> 0:43:35.840
<v Speaker 1>is aughty name. Yeah, Okay, I never had a joy

0:43:36.239 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>that I can recall. To any guys out there, I apologize.

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:46.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to stuff. You're ill evil those parents

0:43:46.239 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>out there being like that was our name for a kid?

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>Cross that out. Number two? Yeah, Jake, Oh yeah, I

0:43:58.320 --> 0:44:00.640
<v Speaker 1>got a couple. Yeah, it's the Jay's.

0:44:00.719 --> 0:44:07.839
<v Speaker 2>Dude, Jesus, Okay, I'm going to throw a girl's name

0:44:07.840 --> 0:44:10.600
<v Speaker 2>in the mix. And again, if this is your name

0:44:10.800 --> 0:44:13.720
<v Speaker 2>and you're very well behaved, I'm sorry to offend.

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:21.160
<v Speaker 1>But Evie Eve is it cheeky? Very close to evil? Yes? Right,

0:44:22.120 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 1>suspiciously close. What's your number one? Number one? Which I

0:44:27.239 --> 0:44:31.600
<v Speaker 1>think was going to be similar? If it's a boy, Nathan, Nathan.

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.360
<v Speaker 2>I knew and Nathan in school and he was quite nice.

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.359
<v Speaker 2>He's my only actually there was there was one nice

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:43.600
<v Speaker 2>and there's one evil difference. My number one, going back

0:44:43.600 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 2>to Jay's, it's the Jay's. You've got to be worried

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:46.640
<v Speaker 2>about Jared.

0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, it's gonna shivers down my spine.

0:44:52.280 --> 0:44:56.440
<v Speaker 2>If your child is becoming friends with another child called Jared,

0:44:57.080 --> 0:45:00.760
<v Speaker 2>just be very careful, have your guard up, be warned,

0:45:00.920 --> 0:45:05.040
<v Speaker 2>because that's a naughty. Fucking is a naughty and if

0:45:05.040 --> 0:45:07.080
<v Speaker 2>it's not naughty now will be naughty in the future.

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:08.720
<v Speaker 1>That's a future criminal.

0:45:08.840 --> 0:45:12.560
<v Speaker 2>They cannot fight the naughtiness once they have the tag

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>of Jared. There's only one path in life that will take.

0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 4>Jared's the new Ivan. I'm going to say it, say

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 4>that Jared. My lat has are into it. Actually I

0:45:24.320 --> 0:45:27.480
<v Speaker 4>like it so yeah. So luckily I don't have to

0:45:27.520 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 4>worry about Jay's for this baby.

0:45:29.560 --> 0:45:32.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't have any names in the mix Jessica, Jessica

0:45:32.920 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and am I just jess It old Jeffica, Jesse Bear

0:45:39.320 --> 0:45:43.440
<v Speaker 1>our producer's nicknames. Bella not a fan, although Bella for

0:45:43.520 --> 0:45:44.279
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<v Speaker 4>and the Facebook.

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<v Speaker 1>If any of that is triggering to you, we'll leave some.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>If you have any questions about the topics every time

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<v Speaker 2>of today, yes, hit us up, ask the way and.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll tackle them in the following weeks.

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<v Speaker 2>Two Doting Dads podcast acknowledges the traditional custodians of country

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<v Speaker 2>throughout Australia and the connections to land, see and community.

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<v Speaker 4>We pay our respects to their elders past and present

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<v Speaker 4>and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torrestraight Island

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<v Speaker 4>to people's today.