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Speaker 1: You've just done something.

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Speaker 2: I've done something which I was going to bring this

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Speaker 2: up in private, but then I thought we are running late,

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Speaker 2: need to record this episode.

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Speaker 1: Of course, what better time than now. There's no better time.

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Speaker 1: You've pissed on the floor. I didn't. You did? I

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Speaker 1: definitely did not. Yes, you're a floor piss up. I

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Speaker 1: did not. I have great control. You went to the toilet.

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Speaker 1: How do you know? I don't sit.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it, but you managed

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Speaker 2: to get w wiz on the floor.

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Speaker 1: I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I stand by one of us, producer Jess, went to

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Speaker 2: the bathroom, came out and said him over there has

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Speaker 2: pissed on the floor.

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Speaker 1: Dare did not. I did not. I see what I

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Speaker 1: WII must have had a boner or something.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what you're doing in that guilty Welcome.

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Speaker 1: Back to two my own webs. I'm trying to do

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Speaker 1: the intro.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, you're not doing this, so I didn't.

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Speaker 2: They Welcome back to two Doting Dads. I am Addie

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Speaker 2: Jay and this is a podcast all about parenting. It

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Speaker 2: is the good, it is the bad, and the relatable.

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Speaker 2: And we don't give advice ever at all.

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Speaker 4: Except don't piss on the floor at Maddy's house, because

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Speaker 4: you'll find out.

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Speaker 2: It's just I feel like most people would have a

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Speaker 2: decent amount of respect to not piss on someone else's property.

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Speaker 1: Got to get back at you somehow. I don't want to.

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Speaker 4: I honestly didn't know I did that.

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 2: We are on holidays as a family. We've gone down

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Speaker 2: to the house and the house was looking great. You know, Tom,

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Speaker 2: I builder, who is just amazing. Kids, there's little fingerprints

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Speaker 2: fucking everywhere, sticky, so sticky.

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Speaker 4: Bro, you give them something that's not even sticky, and

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden they've got fucking sticky.

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Speaker 1: It's what are they doing? I think, what are they doing? Science?

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, don't touch that, put that down, putting

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Speaker 2: their feet up on the wall, like just feet, and

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Speaker 2: also like coloring in. Just everything they do is just

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Speaker 2: making a mess. And I get it. They're young and

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Speaker 2: they're living their lives, living their best lives.

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Speaker 4: If a child draws on a wall in your house,

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Speaker 4: what's the course of action in terms of discipline.

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Speaker 1: I will beat them to a pulp. I would expect

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Speaker 1: nothing less.

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Speaker 2: That is the fear that's been inflicted on them I'm

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Speaker 2: yet to do it, Thank heavens for anyone wondering I did.

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Speaker 2: Not my children, not yet. But there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: yelling right now. As far as the holidays go, it's

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Speaker 2: been it's been like a yellow minute.

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Speaker 4: We offer talk about school holidays and how or just

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Speaker 4: holidays with your family in general, and it's like it's

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Speaker 4: meant to be like really fun, but it just ends

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Speaker 4: up being fucking nightmarees it's a nightmare.

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Speaker 2: I mean Marley, she didn't realize she thought holidays, we're

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Speaker 1: Oh bless.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you're on holidays, and she's like, sweet weekends.

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Speaker 2: And then on Monday she was like, uh, school and

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Speaker 2: I was like, no, you're on holidays. She's never had

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Speaker 2: like she's always been a daycare, so she's never had holidays.

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Speaker 4: Never had an Oscar thinks the word yesterday means anytime

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Speaker 4: any day that happened prior.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 4: So he'll be like, we'll go somewhere that we were

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Speaker 4: at like a year ago. He'll be like, we were

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Speaker 4: here yesterday. I was like, what are you talking about.

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to live with this anxiety that you know.

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Speaker 1: Obviously house. Is it going to get lived in? Right?

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Speaker 2: It's not museums, I know, but I just everything looks

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Speaker 2: nicer without kids in it.

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Speaker 4: Off for sure, Like a brand new car and you

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Speaker 4: put a kid in it. Oh, they just ruin everything.

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Speaker 4: It's like they're carrying a constant bag of rubbish with them.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, come in the.

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Speaker 4: Car, don't let me just get my bag of rubbish.

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Speaker 1: It's the worst. So, you know, I'm so glad.

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Speaker 2: I agonized of every nook and cranny of that house

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Speaker 1: The moment they moved in, They're like, is this eggshell white?

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Speaker 1: Not anymore? And then I come back booker white?

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Speaker 2: What's the come back here? And you're pissing on the

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Speaker 2: fucking toilet floor seat. Jesus, can't you know?

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Speaker 1: Just everywhere I turned, there's no concrete evidence that it

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Speaker 1: was me. Producer Jazz has photos. She's untrustworthy. You're right,

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Speaker 1: you're right, just photo Are you taking photos of my piss?

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Speaker 1: She just threw me a shaker. That means yes, I'm

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Speaker 1: into it. That's cool, very good, very good.

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Speaker 2: I saw a guy on the drive down here by

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Speaker 3: Maybe he ate something really spicy. I was like, I've

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Speaker 4: Maybe he's fueled by wind, very gassy, very it would

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Speaker 1: Very good. Do you know what I saw?

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Speaker 4: Speaking about something pit seat speaking about seeing things while driving.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever told you is one

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Speaker 4: time I was driving out of my grandmother's house, who

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Speaker 4: lives in Western Sydney.

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Speaker 1: And we know Western Sydney.

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Speaker 4: No offense, chess, it's pretty dicey, you know.

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Speaker 1: No, Actually I love Western Sydney.

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Speaker 4: Whoa, heyjeuz I didn't say I didn't like that.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to know what portion of our listener is

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Speaker 1: Well, this might be you. If you're listening listening in

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Speaker 4: Perhaps I was at the lights on the way out

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Speaker 4: and they were smoking an ice pipe.

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Speaker 1: What suburb is this? Gilford Classic Guildford.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So if you are listening, enjoy that math The fhetamine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah's meth and ice the same thing. Yeah, it is. Yep,

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Speaker 1: it is great, great spoke, spoken like a true addict. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I look over and he's blazing up, just couldn't wait

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Speaker 2: It's a certain like there's a line, isn't it when

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Speaker 2: But when you're a meth head you do it in public.

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Speaker 2: You're like you've crossed the line.

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Speaker 1: That myth must have been Moorish? You getting back for seconds? Okay,

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Speaker 1: what do I go for? What do I go for? Hey?

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Speaker 1: Speaking of substances? Good segue, seg, thank you.

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Speaker 4: As you know, obviously goes to primary school much like

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Speaker 4: Marley and primary schools schools in general, they have a

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Speaker 4: went off the top of my head, like pizza and

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Speaker 4: puzzle night, okay, which is usually like Father's Day.

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Speaker 1: Right, and I know that puzzle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's like after hours, right, so it's

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Speaker 4: like four o'clock sounds sexual pizza and penises, pizza, pizza

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Speaker 1: Let me get back on track.

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Speaker 4: Outside of school now, a lot of these things are

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Speaker 2: What no, just imagining you rocking up? Did Pizza and

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Speaker 2: Puzzle night with the case of beer?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I thought it was pizza puzzle and case of

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Speaker 1: pizza puzzle And no, no, no, very funny. I just know. Sorry,

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Speaker 1: I know thought you You're like you sound like annoyed

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Speaker 1: and surprised. I tried to take my meth pipe with

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Speaker 4: You know they're but they also do events that are

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get through these fucking hell only ones.

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Speaker 1: Let me come to those.

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Speaker 4: On three keys and anyway, so the adults only nine.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fucking hell god. Anyway, we went to what they

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Speaker 1: call a mingle. This story sounds terrible.

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Speaker 4: This sounds like a horrible Sorry what happens the adult

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Speaker 4: only mingles?

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Speaker 1: No, this was this was the kids. This was a

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Speaker 1: there were kids. There were kids on this mingles. Actually

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Speaker 4: Anyway, all these events are alcohol free, and it begs

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Speaker 4: the question why, okay, outside of school hours this parent.

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Speaker 1: Mingle was for I can't get I can't look at you.

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Speaker 1: I look at the floor, Look at the floor. I

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Speaker 1: questioned why there's no alcohol?

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Speaker 4: And I found out that there used to be alcohol

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Speaker 4: last year. Apparently all the parents got really lit and

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Speaker 4: they ended up finding alcohol like bottles around the school.

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Speaker 1: What is wrong with people? I think it's really funny.

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Speaker 1: What's wrong with people? Come on, this is for the kids.

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Speaker 1: Well they ruined it for all of us. Anyway, we

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Speaker 4: How drunk were they getting? Apparently they were lit like list.

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Speaker 4: It was a fundraising trivia end of years.

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Speaker 1: And you talk about Western Sydney being bad, the northern

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, but nothing else to do sink piers at schools,

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Speaker 4: at the school mingles, at the school mingle. So we

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Speaker 4: went to the KINDI Mingle, which was not run by

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Speaker 4: And it was like the P and C whatever it

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Speaker 1: And I was like, it would be Friday, whatever it

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Speaker 1: the p and C. Okay, the event was, Ah, why

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Speaker 1: are you going to argue me on the pens? I

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Speaker 1: don't care about the p and C. I've never heard

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Speaker 1: of them. Well, the school has a P and C.

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Speaker 1: The P and C.

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Speaker 4: Organized a KINDI parent mingle, so you meet the other

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Speaker 4: parents because obviously now we've been grouped into classes and

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Speaker 4: now I'm forced to be friends with people that don't

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Speaker 4: I have some friends that we all their kids go

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Speaker 4: don't want to go to an alcohol for event on

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Speaker 4: a Friday, so I took a six pack. But the

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Speaker 4: difference is with the six pack is I wrapped all

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Speaker 4: the beers in and in a nappy like a cool No.

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Speaker 1: Don't you just look like a fucking weird like a

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Speaker 1: weirdo sniffing nappies. I don't sniff my beers, bro, I

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Speaker 1: chuggle them. Are you hiding a beer in a nappy? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Like that looks weird. Like you're better off just going

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Speaker 1: to the toilet.

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Speaker 4: That's way creepy because the people think I'm doing some

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Speaker 4: illicit drugs in there.

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Speaker 2: Don't look any better walking around with like four nappies

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Speaker 2: in your hand. A nappy guy, how do you assume

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Speaker 2: I only had four? No one would be able to

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Speaker 2: suspect it.

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Speaker 3: What do we got?

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Speaker 1: That is one of the dumbest things I have ever seen.

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Speaker 4: Well, the jokes on you because I got away with it.

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Speaker 2: You're better off getting a coke can and getting a

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Speaker 4: I think if you do it look as a school okay,

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Speaker 1: and I was like excited at the moment, but then

436
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,879
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, until where I don't know,

437
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 1: I guess like you're holding the baby in your hand, Yeah,

438
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:15,960
Speaker 1: exactly exactly.

439
00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,320
Speaker 2: So then I was every test I was kind of

440
00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 2: waiting and they're you know, taking all the measurements and

441
00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,680
Speaker 2: like the heartbeat and everything else, just waiting for something

442
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 2: to go wrong.

443
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 1: It was very weird.

444
00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 2: I don't know if you recall ash when you go

445
00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 2: in excuse my ignorance here ultrasound. Oh I got sea sick.

446
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 2: That's right, you passed out. But there was a student

447
00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:42,000
Speaker 2: doctor who was in the room. He was very good looking,

448
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 2: very good looking, and like the ultrasound. It's not that invasive,

449
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 2: you know, if anyone's well, but you have one where

450
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 2: they like, you know, you pull your pants down quite

451
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,760
Speaker 2: a bit and your belly is exposed and they scan it.

452
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 2: Then they have the one that's like a big old

453
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:05,120
Speaker 2: banana size like instrument, and I was in the chair

454
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,440
Speaker 2: in the corner and it felt like is it called

455
00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:08,080
Speaker 2: the cock chair?

456
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were cocked. My guy, a good looking doctor

457
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 1: inserted something into your wife.

458
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 2: They're good looking doctor did the optra sound over the belly,

459
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,439
Speaker 2: and then they were like, we'll be back in one second.

460
00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,199
Speaker 2: And then Laura was like, I wonder if he's going

461
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 2: to do like the next part, which is like the

462
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 2: banana rocket, And I was like, hope.

463
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: So I'm joking popcorn.

464
00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

465
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: Let me get the tissues out, beautiful.

466
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,439
Speaker 2: He didn't come back. He didn't come back. We had

467
00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 2: the lovely older doctor female do that part.

468
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 1: Laura was like, thank god it wasn't him. He was gorgeous,

469
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: gorgeous young doctor. Anyway.

470
00:23:55,160 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 2: Here, So we're still where we're fifteen weeks. We've had all,

471
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 2: like all the major tests done. Everything's looking good and

472
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 2: everything's tracking nicely.

473
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: And with the gender, you're not going to tell anyone

474
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 1: of this. The big question was big question was Marley

475
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: and Lola.

476
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 2: We found out at birth the sex, and I was like,

477
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 2: this is great, like it's lovely. But first child, I

478
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,320
Speaker 2: was happy with whatever. Second child, I thought everyone else

479
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 2: thought that Lola was going to be a boy, so

480
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: I just had it in my mind that it was

481
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 2: going to be a boy. So there was just a

482
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 2: split second. But like gender surprise where you're like, oh,

483
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 2: I wasn't expecting that. It's like you're thinking you're going

484
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 2: to get a chocolate cake and you got a sponge.

485
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 2: A sponge is still great. I'll eat a sponge, no

486
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 2: questions asked. But at the same time, I just was

487
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,200
Speaker 2: expecting a chocolate cake and mudcake. Do you know what

488
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm saying, You're picking up what I'm putting down.

489
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: I am, And now I'm just hungry.

490
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 2: And so I just said to Laura, like, I want

491
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 2: to go into birth because it's all about me.

492
00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 1: I'd like to know. And I think childbirth is beautiful.

493
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 2: Enough of the moment that you don't need it to

494
00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 2: be at another like added level of surprise. But Laura

495
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: was like, how amazing. You don't get many surprises in

496
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: life for what reason?

497
00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,480
Speaker 1: Like we get what's the yeah, yeah, yeah, what's the right?

498
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 2: And I was like, well, let's let's pad this out.

499
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: We can have a surprise now, and then childbirth is

500
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,520
Speaker 2: still great. It's not like you're not going to enjoy

501
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 2: childbirth because you know the sex of your child.

502
00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: You're still going to enjoy it. It's going to be

503
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: the sexy child is going to be the sexuy child

504
00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: for the rest of his life. Yeah.

505
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 2: So well, so I was like, let's find out prior

506
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 2: so a bit of debating, I won nice because you

507
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: know this is we are not going for a fourth Yeah,

508
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 2: I think we're.

509
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: You know, Laura's forty, she's thirty nine, she's young and fertile.

510
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 1: She's not, well, she's a geriatric.

511
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 4: She's not, she's medically it's just thirty nine medically, yeah, yeah,

512
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 4: old of those medically medical medically is like we're saying

513
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 4: she's geriatric in afford it.

514
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,520
Speaker 1: It's like imob.

515
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 4: Technically called to the B and I scale how old

516
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 4: are these thinks? They're not wrong, that's mean, but geriatric

517
00:25:59,160 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 4: at forty?

518
00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: What for pregnancy? For pregnant? I was going to say,

519
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 1: when was this scientific record kept from the forties.

520
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 3: It's just when it comes to pregnancy, it's very offensive.

521
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 3: That is offensive. I'm offended for her. And she's thirty nine?

522
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: Is she she's thirty nine?

523
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is almost forty. Sorry, what is the new thirty? Anyway, congratulations,

524
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 4: that's amazing, Thank you very much. Like I said, I

525
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 4: knew it was coming. I didn't know it was coming

526
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 4: this early, and I also was waiting for you to

527
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 4: tell me because I knew. And then also I found

528
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 4: that over there and I walked in and I said,

529
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 4: do you have something to tell me? And you gave

530
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 4: me this look like like no, and I was like,

531
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 4: oh no, embracing for the worst. So I'm I'm glad

532
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 4: it's the best, the best result, Thank you very much.

533
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: And so I didn't tell you sooner, No that I

534
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: wanted to surprise you on the pot, but fucking that

535
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 2: was harder than I thought, because you are a detective

536
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: I am.

537
00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 4: Do you know I lived next door to a good

538
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 4: friend of mine a while ago across the hall, and

539
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: I also picked twice when she was pregnant without them

540
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 4: before they told us i'd have a gift.

541
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: Jess is not pregnant gift. That's a gift. Point someone out.

542
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: This might sound weird, but I don't have a kink

543
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: with pregnant women. Oh yeah, you don't.

544
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: But I find Laura at the moment, she's popping a

545
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 2: lot more than the previous pregnancies.

546
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: Wait normally works. She also doesn't answer my calls.

547
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 2: She's been avoiding your bellies popped like I think with Marley,

548
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 2: she didn't pop right until the final trimester. Whereas now

549
00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: that belly's out and Laura's like, oh, I just feel

550
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,680
Speaker 2: so fat. I hate it, And I'm like, damn girl,

551
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: I'm like, whoh ring that belly?

552
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: I love it.

553
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 4: Get the vitamin E cream out and rather it's just like,

554
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 4: because you know it helps the trench marks right.

555
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: Get in there, man, deep in there, you know, like

556
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:12,120
Speaker 1: all over, just the belly, just a belly. Feet. Work

557
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 1: on the feet. Nah, that Laura has dry feet. I'm

558
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: not a foot guy, if I'm honest. The hands of

559
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: the legs.

560
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 3: Okay, well, I'm gonna I look forward to lubing Laura

561
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 3: luber ride with a vitamin E cream or some baby oil,

562
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 3: slipping slider.

563
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:38,680
Speaker 1: I find a horse what what do you mean?

564
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 4: Gymnastics and there's that thing they get get all handsy

565
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 4: and they they fling their legs around.

566
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 3: That's a I'm going to ride Laura like a pommel horse.

567
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 3: You're ready, She's going to be the apparatus. I hope

568
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 3: she's ready.

569
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: She would be ready.

570
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: There is no other moment when I find Laura more

571
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 2: attractive than when she's pregnant.

572
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 4: You've got to kink my guy. I mean, get my

573
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 4: list of pregnant women up here. I've got a folder.

574
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: I just I don't know, it's beautiful. Keep my hands

575
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: off that. I can't wait for my for you page

576
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: to just be pregnant. Yeah, we're also. I haven't celebrated it.

577
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: Really. I have moments where I'm like, oh, wow, you know,

578
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 2: what's it gonna try to envision having a newborn baby

579
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: in the house and I'm trying to imagine it at

580
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: the same time. Every time I start to imagine it,

581
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: I put the handbreak up because I'm like, I know,

582
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 2: I don't wanna.

583
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 4: Is it because of you put your handbreak up because

584
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 4: you don't want to celebrate in case something happened.

585
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: Is that what I'm picking up?

586
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we've been down that road a number of times,

587
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 2: and especially like the the first time Laura was pregnant,

588
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: which is obviously each pregnancy is special, but the very

589
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: first time, Like, there is no greater change in your

590
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 2: life as an adult from when you go from no

591
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 2: kids to having kids, and so that first one is

592
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: the biggest moment of all, I think, And that first

593
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: one is you know, you, that's when I don't know

594
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: what you were like, but I was, you know, I

595
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,040
Speaker 2: was spending every second imagining like, oh my god, what

596
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: is it going to be like being a parent, Like

597
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 2: this is actually going to happen. And then when that's

598
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: taken away from you, you know, there's no greater emotional

599
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 2: whiplash than having a miscarriage.

600
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I haven't thankfully I haven't had to experience that.

601
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 4: But also I think like what we do on this

602
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 4: pot is we do practice. We do preach a little

603
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 4: bit is like don't don't go through all that stuff alone,

604
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 4: like don't feel that you can't celebrate your wins.

605
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think I think as as we get closer,

606
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: because in my mind, we're still like at the beginning

607
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 2: of still of the of the pregnancy, and even like

608
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,920
Speaker 2: when Laura was pregnant with Mali and pregnant with Lola,

609
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 2: there was there was lots of times throughout where we

610
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: were super anxious because we're just waiting for something to

611
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 2: go wrong, and you have little moments where baby doesn't

612
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: move that much, and you might have one or two

613
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: day period where previously baby was really active and now

614
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: it's not, and so you just, you know, like you're

615
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: just waiting for those signs that something might be going wrong.

616
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: And it's so hard because you know, when you do

617
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 2: experience a miscarriage, like wasn't as if Laura did anything wrong.

618
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: You know, it's not as if she like behaves in

619
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: a certain way which encouraged a miscarriage to happen.

620
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: It's just, unfortunately, just part of life.

621
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't meant to be just happened, and so you

622
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: just you just got to be this passenger on the

623
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: journey and just hope and pray that you know, it's

624
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: going to turn out all right.

625
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 4: Fortunately I haven't had to experience that feeling of a miscarriage,

626
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 4: but when it does happen, what sort of feelings come

627
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 4: to the surface.

628
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 2: I think the first time it happened, we were overseas

629
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 2: and Laura experienced a little bit of bleeding, and that

630
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: bleeding progress, it got a little bit heavier, and I

631
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 2: remember her saying to me, like, oh, like, there's a

632
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: lot of blood here, and you know, you instantly you

633
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: realize it's not a good sign, and there's not a

634
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 2: whole lot you can do, Like you just have to

635
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: like a you're kind of hoping that the bleeding stops,

636
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 2: and then you go to the doctors, you get scans done,

637
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: and you know, you're kind of just hoping, hoping that

638
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: you get good news. And I think I I think

639
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 2: I was preparing myself for the bad news. There was

640
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 2: so much bleeding over a longer period of time, so

641
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 2: I kind of thought to myself, like my.

642
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: Intuition was that this is really not good and do

643
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: they give you a reason? There's no reason.

644
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: So we found out we had scans done, there was

645
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: no longer a heartbeat, so we knew that we had

646
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: lost the baby. And there's not the hardest thing is

647
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 2: there's not like a specific reason.

648
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 4: You know.

649
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 2: It's not like they say, because you did X, we

650
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 2: lost the baby, you know, which almost would be easier to.

651
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 1: Stomach because you know what to do not to do

652
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: next time. Yeah, that's it exactly if it was that,

653
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: But it's not because you know, I remember for Laura,

654
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: her biggest thought was why I've done something to make

655
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: this pregnancy when she hasn't, not at all.

656
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like that, the biggest bit of communication was

657
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: to Laura that this is not your fault, Like you

658
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: haven't caused this. You know, there's nothing wrong with you

659
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: because obviously you're carrying the baby. And she's like, well,

660
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 2: maybe I'm not a good carrier. Yeah, maybe there's something

661
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 2: wrong with my body that means that I'm not going

662
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 2: to be able to carry a baby. And like Laura

663
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: was so worried that it was something that she had

664
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 2: done her there's something that was wrong with her.

665
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: So you're trying to like trying to.

666
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: Communicate and reassure her that like she hasn't done anything

667
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 2: wrong here. The best way that I could digest the

668
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 2: situation is that you kind of think like it was

669
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 2: always going to happen this way, and they they can

670
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 2: test for level of hormones and sometimes like the more

671
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 2: hormones you have is a good sign.

672
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: But my mum told me this.

673
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 2: She just said that sometimes the body just has to

674
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 2: do a test run and there's no like medical backing

675
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: for this. I think it was just an easy way

676
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 2: of my body. It was an easy way for me

677
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 2: to kind of see the situation from the point of

678
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 2: view that it was just body making sure that everything

679
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 2: was where it needed to be to prepare for the

680
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: one that was going to be the one and so

681
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: but yeah, and afterwards, you kind of think, from my perspective,

682
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:41,320
Speaker 2: you know, I was obviously upset because that baby that

683
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 2: I was imagining was gone. It was you know, it

684
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 2: was never going to be. And then you can't help

685
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: it think like what could have been, Like what could

686
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 2: have been that little baby if it had made it,

687
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: and you can't help it think about that outcome.

688
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: But then as well, for law.

689
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: She's dealing with the emotional distress of a miscarriage, but

690
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,720
Speaker 2: in the physical side as well, you know, it's really uncomfortable.

691
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 4: You know.

692
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: It's I'm lucky that for a guy, you know, I

693
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 2: could go for a run and try and get my

694
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,320
Speaker 2: mind off things, whereas doorphins and totally do something to

695
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: distract myself. But for a woman, you know, they're dealing

696
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 2: with it like every second of the day. Like physically

697
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 2: it hurts as well. So it's it's there's a constant

698
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 2: reminder of what they're experiencing, so they don't have the

699
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: ability to switch off from it.

700
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: For your first one, what point how far along?

701
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 4: I think we're about twelve weeks, Okay, so it can

702
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 4: happen and figure my ignorance again, it can happen in

703
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 4: different circums a different times, right.

704
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's obviously a higher risk of miscarriage earlier on. Yeah,

705
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: and so there's kind of that reassurance in my mind,

706
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: like now I'm like, okay, Well, every every week that

707
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 2: we don't have any issue is a week that we're

708
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: kind of like, not the clear, but we're kind of

709
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: itching towards being in a place where we don't have

710
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: to worry every day. About it and as hard as well,

711
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 2: because when you're in the first twelve weeks, we've been

712
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 2: conditioned not to tell people.

713
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

714
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,120
Speaker 2: And I remember mates who would be like eight weeks

715
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 2: pregnant and they would tell people that. I'd be like,

716
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 2: what are you doing, Like you can't you shouldn't be

717
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 2: telling people, Whereas I actually think now it's really stupid.

718
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 2: I think whoever said you shouldn't tell anyone before twelve

719
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:34,400
Speaker 2: we look back at that, you're like, tell everyone.

720
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 4: Because it's a thing as well, Like when I was saying,

721
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 4: like I was trying to find the words where it's like, yeah, okay,

722
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 4: you're not going to be celebrating because you've got this

723
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 4: fear still, which it's completely normal. But then also it's like,

724
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: why will suffer alone with it totally because you're already

725
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 4: I mean, for Laura in the first instance that happened,

726
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 4: You've got the physical side of it. You mentioned the

727
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,439
Speaker 4: mental side of it, and also the self worth side

728
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 4: of it as well. But then also it's like like

729
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: I can only and it's going to lead me into

730
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 4: my next question. I can only really talk to Matt

731
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 4: about this. But my next question is if we're all

732
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 4: out here talking about it. As someone who's close to

733
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 4: Laura other than you, how do you think that they

734
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 4: could have supported.

735
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: It's hard because you know, if someone is in the

736
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 2: early stages of pregnancy, unless you'r ash Wicks where you're

737
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,040
Speaker 2: very dialed into being able to guess it, no one's

738
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: going to know. And so it's it's a really heavy

739
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 2: topic to bring up with someone who doesn't know what

740
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 2: you're going through. You know, if in that moment after

741
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: it had happened, and someone asked me a question of hey, Matt,

742
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 2: how are you, if you respond and go, well, we

743
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 2: just found out we lost a baby, You're like, first

744
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,360
Speaker 2: of all, shit, you didn't know your Laura was pregnant

745
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 2: and then you've lost it.

746
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: Like, it's it's such a big it's a big, heavy subject, heavy.

747
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: Subject, you know, and obviously there's a few people who

748
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 2: were that close to you where you can bring it up.

749
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: Like obviously my family, they like we could talk about it,

750
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 2: but because we didn't tell anyone that we would trying,

751
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 2: We didn't tell anyone that Laura was pregnant when we

752
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 2: lost the baby. Yeah, we were just it was just

753
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: something that we internalized and so I didn't. I didn't

754
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 2: bring it up with anybody as well, and I was

755
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 2: I didn't want to bring it up and draw attention

756
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: to something that I don't know if Laura wanted people

757
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: to know about. But I think the biggest surprise is

758
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: it is so so common. Yeah, so many people know

759
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 2: about it. Laura spoke about it on Life on Cut

760
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 2: after it happened, like a little while after, and there

761
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: was surprising how many people came out and said, oh,

762
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:32,719
Speaker 2: we've also experienced that, because in my head, stupidly, I

763
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 2: thought it was something that was like one in twenty

764
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,440
Speaker 2: or like you know, yeah, it's like.

765
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: One and two almost. It's wild. It's wild how big.

766
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: And before you have kids, you have no idea about

767
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: that stat whatsoever.

768
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 4: Before you fall pregnant, you have no idea about the stats,

769
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 4: the complications, the variations, the variables, everything involved until you're

770
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 4: actually going through it. But like, looking back, do you

771
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 4: think that if you after it happened the first time,

772
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 4: do you think if that you didn't internalize it so

773
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 4: much then and you were more vocal with it about

774
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 4: closer to you, do you think it would have helped

775
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 4: you with your worries now? Oh?

776
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: No, I don't think it would have helped my worry Now.

777
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 2: I think I think if we did, like Heaven forbid, touch,

778
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 2: would we lose this baby? I know that I would

779
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 2: tell a lot more people. I would be so much

780
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: more vocal with it and open with it and not

781
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 2: feel like I was being such a burden in bringing

782
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,360
Speaker 2: it up with other people in conversation.

783
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, and do you think if you knew that back

784
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 4: then you would have been able to process about it? Oh?

785
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, I'm very fortunate that I haven't had

786
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: to deal with a huge amount of trauma in my life,

787
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: and that is probably one of the ones that was

788
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 2: like top of the list. The moments where you talk

789
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 2: about it makes it so much easier to make sense

790
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 2: of the whole situation. You know, It's it can be

791
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 2: a dangerous thing just having these internalized thoughts that never

792
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,240
Speaker 2: get the chance to have a voice out in the open.

793
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: It needs the oxygen one hundred percent, right, because, like

794
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,919
Speaker 4: we're talking, so many people are going through the same

795
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: thing but doing it in silence. And then think of

796
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 4: how all those people that go through it don't try

797
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 4: again because they're too scared or haven't had a conversation

798
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,320
Speaker 4: with someone like you who's tried again and again and

799
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 4: it's happened again, and then you're willing to go through

800
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 4: that again for the ultimate reward, which is parenthood.

801
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

802
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,280
Speaker 2: And I think the message to anyone who has experienced

803
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 2: a miscarriage is that it's not your fault and unfortunately,

804
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 2: for whatever reason, it just wasn't meant to be. So,

805
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 2: I mean, I will as time progresses, I will start

806
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 2: to celebrate it more.

807
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,319
Speaker 1: I hope so. And there's a part of me that goes,

808
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: am I an idiot for having a third child? Are

809
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: we like the moment? Yes?

810
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 3: And no.

811
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 2: The moment we've just come to a point where we

812
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,720
Speaker 2: finally kind of got control to a certain degree with parenting.

813
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 2: We feel like we're getting the upper hand.

814
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: The kids understand what you're saying.

815
00:40:56,160 --> 00:41:00,120
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, they might not do what you've said that

816
00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 4: you're at a stage now where both girls are at

817
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 4: an age where they understand if you did raise your

818
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 4: voice enough, you could get.

819
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: Some law and order.

820
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:08,320
Speaker 4: You know.

821
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: I can't begin to tell you how much easier parenting

822
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: is when you can communicate with your child and they

823
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: can say I'm hungry, i'm cold, I have a saw

824
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: a tummy, I have a headache.

825
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: I want a glass of water. That is an amazing

826
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: position to be in. And I'm like far out to

827
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: get to the point where I've got a little blob

828
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: back to a guessing game. The guessing game, I'm like,

829
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: ash am I an idiot? No? Okay, great, No, I

830
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 1: don't think you're an idiot. Honestly, not for me. If

831
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: you guys have made the decision.

832
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 2: Obstetrician was like, we came in and the first thing

833
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 2: you said was what the hell are you guys doing?

834
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: You're out.

835
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 4: You're well and truly going to be outnumbered, which is

836
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 4: something that people warn you about.

837
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: But you just don't know.

838
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: If you're looking at what my life's going to be

839
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 4: like with three and you think that's what makes this

840
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,239
Speaker 4: family feel plea, then you haven't done the wrong.

841
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 2: Actould you know who helped me? Who is Aimes on

842
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: the poetic When she was like it's good, yeah, this

843
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: is on you, Ames. But when she was like, Ames's

844
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: I guess we had on a little while ago. She's

845
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 2: got four kids, and she was like, no, it gets easier,

846
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,439
Speaker 2: and I was like, where's Laura?

847
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:20,840
Speaker 4: No, congratulations and thank you for sharing all of that

848
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 4: with us off the back of that, Matthew, there's a

849
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: very important decision that needs to be made and you've

850
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 4: got plenty of time to do that, and that is

851
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 4: what you were going to name this child. Now, there

852
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 4: are I'm not gonna say good and bad names, but

853
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: let's face it, there are names that you associate with

854
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: bad behave.

855
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

856
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:45,800
Speaker 2: I think everyone grows up and names have a certain

857
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 2: image attached to it based on the kids that.

858
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: You went to school with. Yeah, oh for sure. Yeah.

859
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 2: And so there are names where, like Laura and I

860
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 2: were going through potential names at the moment and I'm like, well,

861
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: we can't call it that because I had one of

862
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 2: those names at my.

863
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: School and that were so naughty. So I thought we

864
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: should do like our top three noughty.

865
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: Names, naughty names, Matthew, Okay, all right, So my first

866
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 4: one Billy. Yeah, we used to have a kid at school, Billy.

867
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 4: He's stunk, but also he was such.

868
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: A naughty kid.

869
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, Billy's are very naughty, Yeah, very cheeky. For me,

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Speaker 2: it's more of a it's a j names that start

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Speaker 2: with jay.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah. So number three for me is gi Ji

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Speaker 1: is aughty name. Yeah, Okay, I never had a joy

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Speaker 1: that I can recall. To any guys out there, I apologize.

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Speaker 1: I don't mean to stuff. You're ill evil those parents

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Speaker 1: out there being like that was our name for a kid?

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Speaker 1: Cross that out. Number two? Yeah, Jake, Oh yeah, I

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Speaker 1: got a couple. Yeah, it's the Jay's.

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Speaker 2: Dude, Jesus, Okay, I'm going to throw a girl's name

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Speaker 2: in the mix. And again, if this is your name

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Speaker 2: and you're very well behaved, I'm sorry to offend.

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Speaker 1: But Evie Eve is it cheeky? Very close to evil? Yes? Right,

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Speaker 1: suspiciously close. What's your number one? Number one? Which I

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Speaker 1: think was going to be similar? If it's a boy, Nathan, Nathan.

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Speaker 2: I knew and Nathan in school and he was quite nice.

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Speaker 2: He's my only actually there was there was one nice

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Speaker 2: and there's one evil difference. My number one, going back

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Speaker 2: to Jay's, it's the Jay's. You've got to be worried

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Speaker 2: about Jared.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's gonna shivers down my spine.

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Speaker 2: If your child is becoming friends with another child called Jared,

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Speaker 2: just be very careful, have your guard up, be warned,

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Speaker 2: because that's a naughty. Fucking is a naughty and if

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Speaker 2: it's not naughty now will be naughty in the future.

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Speaker 1: That's a future criminal.

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Speaker 2: They cannot fight the naughtiness once they have the tag

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Speaker 2: of Jared. There's only one path in life that will take.

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Speaker 4: Jared's the new Ivan. I'm going to say it, say

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Speaker 4: that Jared. My lat has are into it. Actually I

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Speaker 4: like it so yeah. So luckily I don't have to

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Speaker 4: worry about Jay's for this baby.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any names in the mix Jessica, Jessica

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Speaker 1: and am I just jess It old Jeffica, Jesse Bear

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Speaker 1: our producer's nicknames. Bella not a fan, although Bella for

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Speaker 1: sure it's been killed.

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Speaker 2: of reviews if starts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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