Speaker 1: Hey, Legends, Welcome back to the Mason cock Show. Big episode. Today,
Speaker 1: Pendles hits the massive, massive milestone. We talk about Essdon
Speaker 1: well or not they can break the who do make
Speaker 1: it the finals? Get that w on the board. And lastly,
Speaker 1: for the clanger of the week, we have a guest
Speaker 1: and he is one of the absolute legends of the
Speaker 1: IFL and it is an absolute golden nugget too. You
Speaker 1: won't want to miss it, so listen and tune in.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it without further ado, Let's get into it.
Speaker 1: Welcome Brighton Cox, get a mace.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: We got to jump straight into the clanger because as
Speaker 3: soon as I saw this, it's clanger gold. Yes, Nick
Speaker 3: lost it, Richmond, Yes, he was caught cold holding the
Speaker 3: ball like cold, so he uh, you know, took the
Speaker 3: mark played on had no awareness of what was happening
Speaker 3: around him, tackled holding the ball, you know how, guys,
Speaker 3: Simon Meredith, very experienced umpire. Simon Meredith comes over and
Speaker 3: Nick Flosson's a bit you know, he's a bit miffed
Speaker 3: with himself, so he's projecting outwards. It's everyone else's problem
Speaker 3: and everyone else's fault. He screams, this is embarrassing, Mace,
Speaker 3: which it was. It was very embarrassed.
Speaker 1: D fifty either having a search off for Goald, the
Speaker 1: hall game stops.
Speaker 3: He's not lying at this point, but Simon Meredith wasn't
Speaker 3: having any of it, and he says back to him,
Speaker 3: just just as cold as he was caught holding the ball.
Speaker 3: He just says back to him, not for me, mate,
Speaker 3: ooh nice in his veins. Hit him with the clap back.
Speaker 3: I think descent rule is out the window, but this
Speaker 3: is actually going to be more effective than the descent
Speaker 3: if you ever start talking shit in an umpire and
Speaker 3: you know that he can come back with something that cold.
Speaker 1: And he's miked up, you know he's parked up. So
Speaker 1: it's going to be a good one.
Speaker 3: That'll do a hell of a lot more than paying
Speaker 3: any fifty meter penalty.
Speaker 1: Damn damn thing just to go through it. I have
Speaker 1: an umpire just cut you down like that.
Speaker 2: It was very good.
Speaker 3: It's very very quick married you.
Speaker 1: Know personality from the umpires. We love that. Well done, Simon.
Speaker 3: Now I can imagine that your clang is going to
Speaker 3: be pretty easy. Clanger. Two weeks in a row, three
Speaker 3: misses back to back to back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would think so. But there's another clanger that
Speaker 1: I want to bring out, and it's a good one. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: well I wouldn't say worse. It's it's it's it's involving
Speaker 1: someone else, right and myself, And there's a bit of
Speaker 1: an exchange, you might say, over the weekend. And I'm
Speaker 1: bringing this person onto the podcast. Is I want to
Speaker 1: I want to dissect this. I want to go straight
Speaker 1: through the details of this, and we're going to figure
Speaker 1: this out together. So we've brought on the amazing, amazing
Speaker 1: Jamar google Hagen, the absolute legend. Number two for the
Speaker 1: Western Bulldogs and then No. One draft picking twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: an absolute legend. Welcome to the podcast. Now I've got
Speaker 1: to walk this through and maybe I'd like to hear
Speaker 1: from your side, probably more than anything, kind of walk
Speaker 1: us through exactly what happened in the game. I mean,
Speaker 1: at this point, I think you were kicking two goals
Speaker 1: already and you're smashing us in the air and you're
Speaker 1: having a pretty good day out.
Speaker 4: I'm going to say that, yeah, well obvious, so pretty excited,
Speaker 4: playing a few blokes and top of the ladder. But
Speaker 4: went out there and I was happy with my game
Speaker 4: at the start, and then obviously took a mark and
Speaker 4: you come and stood the marker, and then I couldn't
Speaker 4: really see the girls behind you anyway. But I just
Speaker 4: once I kicked it, I was like, mate, that's gone
Speaker 4: straight through the middle place.
Speaker 2: That I'm going to give you. I'm going to get
Speaker 2: into you like you get to the other people. I'll
Speaker 2: get into it because I know we.
Speaker 4: Me and you have a pretty good connection, but we
Speaker 4: don't hate each other or anything like that.
Speaker 2: So I thought I'd be a pisstake.
Speaker 4: And then next minute and just the ball started coming
Speaker 4: back out and I sent you that photo of where
Speaker 4: I'm just getting in here.
Speaker 2: But Jeremy how I was just leading in the background
Speaker 2: to get the ball off Duzzy ball.
Speaker 4: I was kind of pissed off with your teammates because
Speaker 4: you think they'd play it out and get on the
Speaker 4: line and you know.
Speaker 2: SHEPD it over.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, it's kind of
Speaker 4: it's a bit embarrassing, but I just top it on
Speaker 4: the chin.
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of it. If I talked shit,
Speaker 1: I got to be able to take shit at the
Speaker 1: same time. So if you if you're there and you
Speaker 1: can give it. I'm all for it, man. But it
Speaker 1: was It was so funny because I think whenever i'd
Speaker 1: even like, I don't know if I think we're in
Speaker 1: the same ideas, whenever you kicked it, it struck it really well,
Speaker 1: and I was like, fuck, this is probably going through.
Speaker 1: And then you got into me and I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, let's go, let's go. It's on, let's go.
Speaker 1: That's all about it. And it was probably like five
Speaker 1: seconds till I actually realized the play was still going there.
Speaker 2: I've got ship go back.
Speaker 4: Came over to celebrate with me, and then you realized
Speaker 4: that it didn't go through, so we just had to
Speaker 4: quickly get on defense.
Speaker 1: We've all been there. I feel like we've all been there, mate.
Speaker 2: But I don't think anyone's been there.
Speaker 1: It was from fifty It is a decent Why it's
Speaker 1: a decent Why well, I want to ask you this
Speaker 1: because it is quite timely, but also, Nate Doock Week
Speaker 1: was last week. Is there anything specially you did for
Speaker 1: Nadock Week?
Speaker 4: I was obviously famous to celebrate outs, so I did
Speaker 4: a little presentation at the Western Bulldogs in front of
Speaker 4: the boys. I played a little music care like a
Speaker 4: song which is played by one of me uncle's archie Roach,
Speaker 4: and it's just took the children right away. So that
Speaker 4: was just based on my community and where it was
Speaker 4: and what he sings in that and all the words
Speaker 4: he says in that is exactly what happened on my
Speaker 4: community where I grew up. So that was a bit
Speaker 4: of a I don't know, a bit of a hit
Speaker 4: for the boys. Kind of gave him a hit, that
Speaker 4: bit of reality check and it didn't happen that long ago,
Speaker 4: but it was pretty impressive that the coach and the
Speaker 4: staff let me do that. So that's my main thing
Speaker 4: that I did this week.
Speaker 1: Beautiful man, it's it's been impressive as an outsider looking
Speaker 1: into to yourself the Western Bulldogs and the way you've
Speaker 1: handled yourself. Man, it's been incredible. The role model you've
Speaker 1: been able to become, what you've been able to do
Speaker 1: for the community, and continuing to be that person in
Speaker 1: the media that stands up for what's right. Man, it's
Speaker 1: pretty incredible. It's it's an honor going out and playing
Speaker 1: with your man, because you're an absolute legend and doing
Speaker 1: things like this.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I love having a little a little bit of a
Speaker 1: laugh and the fact that you can take it in
Speaker 1: stride means that it means a lot and shows a
Speaker 1: bit of your character also, mate, So massive, massive, thank
Speaker 1: you for coming on man, and hopefully we'll see you
Speaker 1: comes up.
Speaker 3: Is that all right?
Speaker 2: Easy? True? All right? Thanks you for having me right.
Speaker 1: One of the funniest moments on a football field. There's
Speaker 1: a bit of beef. Bit of beef and it was
Speaker 1: a good fine and now we look back, we can
Speaker 1: all have a smile, laugh and they are credit to him.
Speaker 1: Credit to him for coming on, having a bit of
Speaker 1: a laugh of himself, you know, and like you know,
Speaker 1: just taking it in stride. Not many people would do that.
Speaker 1: So he's an absolutely legend. He's going really well and
Speaker 1: it's great to see him absolutely smashing it on the
Speaker 1: football field.
Speaker 3: When you're a number one draft pick center half forward,
Speaker 3: I think you've got to have a bit of thick
Speaker 3: skin there.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: It was good to see, but it was very reminiscent.
Speaker 3: It's very Mason Cox esque. I think that he's he
Speaker 3: might have been watching some tape because he's given you
Speaker 3: the Mason Cox.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying that the jack in the box gets
Speaker 1: another w.
Speaker 3: He did say that he couldn't see the goals past year,
Speaker 3: so you know it's working. There's maybe five gold posts there, Jesus,
Speaker 3: one little one right up the middle. Let's jump into
Speaker 3: the footy mace. Richmond, Sydney, MCG. Just a bit of
Speaker 3: a dreary, rainy little session down there at the MCG.
Speaker 1: Thursday night. We love a Thursday night night.
Speaker 3: It was actually the first good Thursday night game that
Speaker 3: I can remember for a long long time. We've normally
Speaker 3: started the weekends off terribly. But Richmond Sidney was great.
Speaker 3: Richmond getting the dub, which you know, it makes it
Speaker 3: a bit hard for Sydney looking for that final eight spot.
Speaker 3: Richmond one step closer. A lot of teams going for
Speaker 3: that top eight spot now they're going to be probably
Speaker 3: with our one player, the nanc Nack the tankod game too.
Speaker 3: He did have a good game, but he's going to
Speaker 3: get a good suspension because it's pretty cut and dry
Speaker 3: that one, I imagine. But that wasn't the biggest talking
Speaker 3: point out of this game. Lance Buddy Franklin. Is it
Speaker 3: his last game at the MCG? Was it? Maybe we
Speaker 3: might see him here. I don't know if we'll ever
Speaker 3: see him again it might.
Speaker 1: Be Buddy's last game? Geez, I think it was. Seriously,
Speaker 1: every other minute they were mentioning it. It was Scott
Speaker 1: Pendlebury played basketball as a kid. Did you know a
Speaker 1: Mason Cox's American? Did you know? It was just on
Speaker 1: replay the whole game and credits to Buddy. He's had
Speaker 1: an amazing career. So if it is his last game there,
Speaker 1: it's great to look back on some of the memories
Speaker 1: he's created there and some of the history's created there.
Speaker 1: But we don't know. I don't even know if he's
Speaker 1: going to play next year. Why are we like literally
Speaker 1: trying to force this guy into being his last game.
Speaker 3: They actually mentioned it so many times I started to
Speaker 3: fear for his welfare. I was like, what does Channel
Speaker 3: seven know? What are they going to do to the
Speaker 3: poor bloke? But yeah, obviously a very amazing career, plenty
Speaker 3: of good footy at the mcg kick two. A bit
Speaker 3: hard to the inconsistency coming in and out of the side,
Speaker 3: getting rested managed, you know, injuryws so it's yeah, wet
Speaker 3: game for the bigs. You would know how difficult that is.
Speaker 3: But hopefully we see just plenty more of Buddy just
Speaker 3: absorb it up before whenever the end does, because it
Speaker 3: does come for everyone. Mate. Now Jacob Bauer was talking
Speaker 3: about the opposite end of the spectrum. This kid playing
Speaker 3: his very first game, and look the goods streaming down
Speaker 3: the wing. One two passage of play, hit up the
Speaker 3: leading option, looks great. Cut the mum in the crowd.
Speaker 3: She was up and about as you would be because
Speaker 3: it's your son's dream. He's out there on the MCG
Speaker 3: running around, touching the pill. It's great.
Speaker 1: Love mom cam.
Speaker 3: I love the mom cam. But unfortunately Jacob looks like
Speaker 3: he's done. His hamstring was in a bit of a
Speaker 3: denial there for a bit, which is I think we
Speaker 3: all were. We wanted him to maybe it was a
Speaker 3: quirky and maybe it was. But took a little bit
Speaker 3: to get off onto the bench. Did take a little
Speaker 3: bit of like, oh, maybe I'm good, maybe I'm not
Speaker 3: overly too sure, let's just test it out again. And
Speaker 3: I think the physio came over. I was like, mate,
Speaker 3: you're done. Yeah, you're running on all sorts of adrenaline
Speaker 3: at that point. Surely it's like, mate, just cut it off,
Speaker 3: tape me up and get me back out there. But
Speaker 3: Unfortunately he'll miss a bit, but you know, it was
Speaker 3: great to see the boys getting around him on the bench,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's one tiny blip in what will
Speaker 3: hopefully be a good career because his first two touches.
Speaker 3: You can at least live on that while you're doing rehab,
Speaker 3: because it was like, mate, I was going to have
Speaker 3: forty in kick two the way I was going. If
Speaker 3: the game kept trending in the same fashion, you just
Speaker 3: never know.
Speaker 1: It would be quite frustrating putting myself in his shoes, though,
Speaker 1: to have the family there, you get like twenty tickets right, everyone,
Speaker 1: to be in the change rooms after you celebrate to
Speaker 1: win all that, and like and didn't have that kind
Speaker 1: of hanging over you if you're not really having this
Speaker 1: Cinderella story of a start of a career, And it'd
Speaker 1: be quite frustrating to putting myself into his position. But yeah,
Speaker 1: like we said, you know, his time that he spent
Speaker 1: out there, he made the most of it, which hopefully
Speaker 1: is a sign going forward that he's, you know, af
Speaker 1: already foot.
Speaker 3: He can have the great, amazing, you know, Cinderella stories,
Speaker 3: but then there's so many that are the opposite of
Speaker 3: the spectrum and it's it can be a brutal, harsh
Speaker 3: game at times, but hopefully we see Jake ab out
Speaker 3: there again soon. Let's jump into the Brisbane West Coast
Speaker 3: game because we're going to jump in jump out of
Speaker 3: this one because it wasn't a lot of action. One
Speaker 3: awesome as thing to see though, was Jack Gunstack coming
Speaker 3: back after you know, putting his hand up and saying
Speaker 3: maybe I need some a spell or well, he came back.
Speaker 3: It definitely worked because he kicked six two upon return.
Speaker 1: That's not a bad start, not a bad start to
Speaker 1: the back end of the year for him.
Speaker 3: Maybe more players should just have a week or two
Speaker 3: after have a mini preseason.
Speaker 1: The fact that he came back and just kicked six,
Speaker 1: so yes, West Coast, it's like, you know, it's one
Speaker 1: sixteen to thirty five, so it was a big win.
Speaker 1: But to have him at the top of the goal kicking,
Speaker 1: you know, ladder of it for them, it's it's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: It's cool to see him like take that time off
Speaker 1: and realize in his self awareness that he needed a
Speaker 1: bit of a brake come back to be able to
Speaker 1: play at his best, and that's what he showed on
Speaker 1: the weekend and it's a credit to Holm. How many
Speaker 1: people would have the guts to do that. They just
Speaker 1: grind through, you know, that tough part and then hopefully
Speaker 1: things just magically turn around. But you know, he put
Speaker 1: his hand up said, look, maybe I need to take
Speaker 1: a step back before I can take his two steps forward.
Speaker 1: So credit Tom kicking six is not bad for a
Speaker 1: return to the AFL level.
Speaker 3: Poo pew gun stand yes, pure.
Speaker 1: Pew sounds like Star Wars.
Speaker 3: Now and will Ashcroft jeezu. He's continuing on with his
Speaker 3: impressive season twenty eight touches. It's going to come down
Speaker 3: to a couple there for the rising star. It's actually
Speaker 3: competitive this year. Yeah, I feel like previous years they
Speaker 3: just blow it out of the water. But this is
Speaker 3: a good year. A lot of youngsters coming through. Obviously,
Speaker 3: the fortress continues up there at the Gabba and they
Speaker 3: might you know, they go away for a week, they
Speaker 3: might lose, and then they come back and they win
Speaker 3: at the Gabba.
Speaker 1: So it's get their confidence back up. Of the time
Speaker 1: they go. They know they're going to get a win
Speaker 1: at home. They're just that good underneath the gab.
Speaker 3: Of lights when they're on. But yeah, They've got Melbourne
Speaker 3: next week at the MCG, huge Friday night thriller, another
Speaker 3: chance to prove that they can play at the MCG
Speaker 3: against Melbourne against good competition. Last time they lost against Hawthorne,
Speaker 3: but you know, they Hawks seem to be their bogie team.
Speaker 3: They lose to Hawthorne, whereas you know, another crack at
Speaker 3: it against Melbourne and they're absolutely flying. Like at the
Speaker 3: moment Brisbane in that gap, you know, it goes Collingwood
Speaker 3: Port up there to horse Race and then out beneath
Speaker 3: them it goes Brisbane Port Daylight. The rest of the
Speaker 3: scrubs trying to win a game.
Speaker 1: I think they're top fourteen. I think it'll be hopefully
Speaker 1: us Port, Brisbane and probably Melbourne. I think might be
Speaker 1: the last one. But there's gonna be obviously a big
Speaker 1: top four game over the weekend trying to battle out
Speaker 1: for the top four between Brisbane Melbourne. It's going to
Speaker 1: be I think one of the games of the weekend
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 3: It is a big game because it leaves the door
Speaker 3: open if Melbourne lose, it leaves the door open for
Speaker 3: another team to sneak up in there. Let's jump into
Speaker 3: the next blockbuster because it was white Hot Mace Giants v. Horsorn.
Speaker 1: Favorite team you love the Giants, absolutely love them, and.
Speaker 3: What's not to love Mace because Jesse Hogan when he's
Speaker 3: out there kicking snags one of the most consistent forwards
Speaker 3: in the entire Australian Football League. I would say they're
Speaker 3: really making a run for it because they're they're probably
Speaker 3: one of the most informed teams in the comp at
Speaker 3: the moment. They don't lose by big margins when they
Speaker 3: do lose, and boy, they're not losing that often at
Speaker 3: the moment. They're getting the dubs. So putting it right
Speaker 3: up there that I reckon they can squeeze into that
Speaker 3: last spot even you know they can go up above
Speaker 3: that that you know, fifth through eighth is really open
Speaker 3: now because it was just that eighth slot. But I
Speaker 3: feel like, you know.
Speaker 1: One's one or two kind of games away from each
Speaker 1: other that like every year of Felix k like that.
Speaker 3: No one's really seeming to like be putting their hand
Speaker 3: up to just take it long have snuck their way
Speaker 3: back up in there, which we'll touch on, but they
Speaker 3: kind of give me the hebgbi's coming good finals time.
Speaker 1: You give a lot of love to j w As.
Speaker 1: Now I'm here to back in and give a bit
Speaker 1: of love to Hawthorn. Right. We say it every single week.
Speaker 1: You know, they keep showing up, they keep fighting. I
Speaker 1: mean they go down eighty five to seventy two in
Speaker 1: this game, but the whole time they were coming back,
Speaker 1: it wasn't like they laid down and just fell over
Speaker 1: and so now we don't want to be here anymore.
Speaker 1: Up in Sydney, it's just the away game, We'll just
Speaker 1: go home whatever. No, they actually put in a good
Speaker 1: effort and like, yes they're not they're not finals hunting
Speaker 1: at the moment, but they're not like you know, they're
Speaker 1: not just giving up and just saying, you know, this
Speaker 1: isn't our year and we're just going to go and
Speaker 1: go to sleep.
Speaker 3: Well, they had a couple of disappointing performances in the
Speaker 3: lead up to this in their back to form, but
Speaker 3: you're going to get that from you know, the Hawthorns
Speaker 3: of the league, the North Melbourne of the league, where
Speaker 3: it's like you can be competitive all the way through
Speaker 3: and then you have one down day and with you
Speaker 3: through your team it can drop off a bit.
Speaker 1: We digress. We'll move it to Saint Kilda versus Melbourne.
Speaker 1: A lot of hyper on this one because this is
Speaker 1: a four and five spot and it was a good game.
Speaker 1: It was a good guy, It was a good game.
Speaker 3: Now you'd have to be living under a rock that's
Speaker 3: under another rock if you didn't see Clayton Oliver's you know, Newsworthy,
Speaker 3: I would say the frustration that was on display for
Speaker 3: the cameras down there at training where he was having
Speaker 3: a bit of a back and forth with the fitness
Speaker 3: guru down there in Melbourne. I heard so many you know,
Speaker 3: journalists and media commentators and stuff, lip readers reading what
Speaker 3: was being said. Now that out the window because we
Speaker 3: don't know what was so no one does. So I
Speaker 3: just want to ask, from a player's perspective, how heated
Speaker 3: can some of these conversations get around the club when
Speaker 3: you're talking about you know, if I was like, hey, Mace,
Speaker 3: you probably I think you're going to miss the next
Speaker 3: five and you want to play the next five? Your
Speaker 3: button heads there, like, how heated do these conversations get?
Speaker 1: Well, there's probably three different directions of heat, right, So
Speaker 1: you've got the coaches right, they want their best players
Speaker 1: on the track. They're pushing you to be ready to go,
Speaker 1: so pushing all yourself. If they're also pushing the physios
Speaker 1: and doctors to make sure you're going to get out
Speaker 1: on the track as soon as possible, then you have
Speaker 1: the personal side of things. Right you might be out
Speaker 1: of contract, you might be trying to push to make
Speaker 1: sure you're getting games so you're in the good team
Speaker 1: that's gonna make it into the finals, all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. Then you have the doctors. And the doctors
Speaker 1: are there because they're there to tell you yes or no.
Speaker 1: But if they don't say no and you go out
Speaker 1: and say yes and you do your hamstring again, you
Speaker 1: know who the coach is looking at the doctor in
Speaker 1: the physios and you say you should have done something different.
Speaker 1: So it's everyone that's trying to cover the bases, and
Speaker 1: sometimes you need to push. Sometimes you need to push.
Speaker 1: People say I know my body best, I can do this.
Speaker 1: I can go do extra runs or extra sprints and
Speaker 1: what not to be able to make sure I'm good
Speaker 1: for the weekend, or you know, I need to do
Speaker 1: extras and I need to pull back some right at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, like it's your career, you
Speaker 1: make the decisions that's best for you. But you're guided
Speaker 1: by the physios and you're guided by the coaches, and
Speaker 1: sometimes the doctor takes it out of your hands. Right,
Speaker 1: we talked about concussions and stuff, and you're two weeks
Speaker 1: out and that's just you know, that's the lay of
Speaker 1: the law, but the lay of the land. But I
Speaker 1: can understand from Clayton's side of like wanting to play.
Speaker 1: He's been out for a while. He's getting probably pretty
Speaker 1: frustrated because he's sitting the running circles around, you know,
Speaker 1: the oval, and not being able to touch a footy
Speaker 1: and not being able to be in training normality wise.
Speaker 1: Like we've all been there, and yeah, sometimes there are
Speaker 1: stern words that have because you want to play, and
Speaker 1: that's part of being a competitive beast, is you want
Speaker 1: to play and you can't just sit there and just
Speaker 1: you know, trot along just think everything's okay. Like you
Speaker 1: need to push people to make sure that you know,
Speaker 1: we are trying to get there as quickly as possible,
Speaker 1: to be as successful as possible. And that's probably what
Speaker 1: happened over the weekend. But as the media does, you know,
Speaker 1: they see a few stern words and they go freaking
Speaker 1: out thinking the whole clubs, you know, arguing with each
Speaker 1: other and everything's going and blowing up and it's like, no,
Speaker 1: you just he wanted to tell him he could do more,
Speaker 1: and the physio was saying, no, that's our session and
Speaker 1: that's all for the day.
Speaker 3: That's the high performance environment now it is. They were
Speaker 3: compelling pitches because they're interesting. It's something that you don't
Speaker 3: see every day. As you know this the normal everyday
Speaker 3: person that goes.
Speaker 1: To work, well, that's probably usually done inside. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you might be in like a doctor's office and this
Speaker 1: conversations I had like not I think because it was
Speaker 1: in a public, outdoor space on the track. Then the
Speaker 1: media kind of saw something they usually don't see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's not like, you know, Janet from accounting
Speaker 3: doesn't flick through an email and you say, what the fuck, Janet,
Speaker 3: where's me? Where's me? Email Karen? So you know, the
Speaker 3: high performance environment can be different.
Speaker 1: You knows a lot more direct feedback.
Speaker 3: I'd say people see an athlete and go like the
Speaker 3: athlete no matter what, should only have the team in
Speaker 3: mind and go forward. But there are other things that
Speaker 3: play into your head, which is like I've got to
Speaker 3: be playing this weekend because my spot's like up for
Speaker 3: grabs and I got to beat this guy, which.
Speaker 1: I'll have a bonus. You're trying to reach. And it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I need five more games. I've only got
Speaker 1: seven more to play. Like there's so many things I
Speaker 1: can go into it. But I think the people don't
Speaker 1: realize is I can almost guarantee you this after the
Speaker 1: conversation was how they play went in and it was
Speaker 1: normal and they weren't like upset at each other. They're
Speaker 1: just like, yeah, I respect the fact that you want
Speaker 1: to play, and I respect that you don't want to
Speaker 1: get you know, all the media scrutiny if I get
Speaker 1: injured again, and that's just two heads budding each other
Speaker 1: trying to get the best scenario for both of them. Whenever,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's not maring up. So that's probably where it
Speaker 1: gets lost in it is like, you know, it's a
Speaker 1: high professional environment and high performing environment. People don't see
Speaker 1: this and like you said, then in their office, but
Speaker 1: in AFL, this is normal, Like you want the best.
Speaker 1: Everyone's competitive trying to win a flag, and that's what's
Speaker 1: going to have to happen.
Speaker 3: I feel like the Ducks and the physios are going
Speaker 3: to have their hands full coming out of this game
Speaker 3: because Paul Saint kill. Jeez, it was it was a
Speaker 3: real car crash. And of course the biggest news and
Speaker 3: saddest news of them all, Max King twenty seconds into
Speaker 3: the game right away, just does his shoulder again. Out
Speaker 3: for the season. Just can't catch a break at the moment.
Speaker 3: And you know, he was looking so good for him
Speaker 3: and a vault from what I could see evolved as
Speaker 3: a forward. He was this big, you know, brute of
Speaker 3: a Ford coming back from like his last break, and
Speaker 3: it was great to watch him play footy, Like I
Speaker 3: was really enjoying what he was able to do out there.
Speaker 3: Now he's out for the season. Must be frustrating to be,
Speaker 3: you know, constantly in and out of the side when
Speaker 3: you just want to put together some consistent footy.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'll be frustrating as hell. I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty seconds into a game, like we talk about, you know,
Speaker 1: the Richmond player that you know, Jacob Bowrow that go
Speaker 1: injured right away, and it'd just be so frustrating, Like
Speaker 1: you get all hyped up for a game, right you
Speaker 1: get all your anticipation and everything else, and you get
Speaker 1: all excited, you get their drilling running. Then twenty seconds
Speaker 1: and you're sitting there with the you know, Jack and
Speaker 1: I are not playing the rest of the day. And
Speaker 1: then not only that, but to know that it's injury's
Speaker 1: kind of done before in his shoulders and probably know
Speaker 1: the extent of it and how serious it probably is
Speaker 1: going to be. It would be playing on your mind
Speaker 1: of just like how unlucky I am, and yeah, just
Speaker 1: the demons of football can sometimes take over. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll have a bit of another still on the sideline
Speaker 1: and rehab and have to go through it all again,
Speaker 1: which can be quite frustrating. But like you said, he's
Speaker 1: he's showing signs and it's like if he can just
Speaker 1: get his body to just you know, want to be
Speaker 1: on the same page as his mind, then he'd be
Speaker 1: a hell of a force in the league.
Speaker 3: And he wasn't the only one out there. Seb ross hamstring,
Speaker 3: Zane Cordy concussion both before halftime, and I think that
Speaker 3: was probably the most impressive part from Saint Kilda's aspect.
Speaker 3: Although you know, unfortunate to lose these players, they really
Speaker 3: put up a hell of a fight. Every time it
Speaker 3: looked like he was getting away from him, they just
Speaker 3: caught it back up and caught it back up, and
Speaker 3: it was They made it into a hell of a
Speaker 3: game even though they were very undermanned.
Speaker 1: Yeah two on this bench, Oh man, that would be
Speaker 1: so tough to look at. Ben Brown had a cool
Speaker 1: I guess I want to acknowledge it something cool or
Speaker 1: my milestone that he had. Now he played his one
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty seventh game, which was matching his uncle
Speaker 1: who played for a Collingwood and Fitzroy. And I know
Speaker 1: he posted up on social media and I love Ben Brown,
Speaker 1: big fan of him, So I want to give him
Speaker 1: a little shout out of congratulations matching the uncle's career
Speaker 1: as far as games played. And yeah, he's the nicest
Speaker 1: guy in the AFL. Happy to say that nicest person.
Speaker 3: We'll have to get him in on the podcast because
Speaker 3: he just seems like an absolute legend I've never met.
Speaker 3: But Petrarca, this was something interesting and there was calls
Speaker 3: throughout the week for it Petrarca to play forward because
Speaker 3: the knock was he can run all day in the midfield,
Speaker 3: but if he had a shot once he got forward.
Speaker 3: He was cooked mates and he kept missing. So starting
Speaker 3: forward Dusty s type role everyone always, you know, they
Speaker 3: tied Jordan de Goi to that and Christian Petruca much
Speaker 3: the same. But he looked great up there, kicked four goals.
Speaker 3: Did He's just like the forward craft of like, yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm probably not going to impact this gets around to
Speaker 3: the front and Senna gets the crumb kicks the goal, fast, powerful,
Speaker 3: can push off, can take marks, and he's not cooked
Speaker 3: when he takes shots of goals. So they go through
Speaker 3: the big sticks. Obviously it's you want two of him
Speaker 3: because you want one in the guts and you want
Speaker 3: one up forward. But did you see much of this
Speaker 3: game and how the balance looked to you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, look good, Like I think having those players and
Speaker 1: like Jordan de Goy, Dustin Mortin, like those three, I
Speaker 1: feel like are and even like you kneel like those three,
Speaker 1: I feel like are just balls, like absolute balls, and
Speaker 1: they just like can't get tackled, burst through like packs,
Speaker 1: just all that kind of stuff. And yeah, just they,
Speaker 1: you know, are one of those players you can put
Speaker 1: in different positions and they're going to be successful. And
Speaker 1: Patraka being played forward now I think is going to
Speaker 1: be something that they'll probably be looking out in the
Speaker 1: future of going if he can kick ford alls a game,
Speaker 1: Like why would we we have enough players in the midfield,
Speaker 1: especially if you get clicking Oliver back, Like he's definitely
Speaker 1: probably going to keep playing forward if he's going to
Speaker 1: be kicking that many yels a game.
Speaker 3: So tie that to Collingwood because you would have sat
Speaker 3: in a million meetings and it's like, what do you
Speaker 3: do with Jordan to go? Like, if you put him
Speaker 3: up forward, he can kick four to six. If you
Speaker 3: put him in the midfield, he can get ten clearances,
Speaker 3: And it's like, well, where do you put someone like that?
Speaker 1: She spends where we need him at the time, Like
Speaker 1: if we need more goals and stuff, we need maybe
Speaker 1: someone that's a bit more powerful up there on the
Speaker 1: ford line, we might put him there. But like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Nick day Cass has moved into the midfield
Speaker 1: now from defense, and now there's one less spot in
Speaker 1: the midfield is going forward. But now Tay Adams just
Speaker 1: starting to play a lot more forward and he's come
Speaker 1: out of the middle. So it's it's amazing and awesome
Speaker 1: for us to be able to shift magnets around like
Speaker 1: that and not have any kind of issue and be
Speaker 1: able to have players that can play different positions at
Speaker 1: different times during the game depending on what we need.
Speaker 3: So you need the players to be stepping up to
Speaker 3: fill that role. Like ideally for him to be able
Speaker 3: to move forward and play forward, you need a midfielder
Speaker 3: to put there end up and take his spot.
Speaker 1: Well. I mean, this is the thing that it's like,
Speaker 1: you can put them in the four line, but if
Speaker 1: you don't get it out of the midfield to the
Speaker 1: forward line, it's pretty useless putting them up there. So
Speaker 1: you kind of have to have someone to be able
Speaker 1: to replace him in the middle to make sure you
Speaker 1: still admit the ball forward.
Speaker 3: Port Adelaide versus the Suns, this was you know, it
Speaker 3: was going into the week the weekend, it was just
Speaker 3: danger signs for Stewie Ju and the Suns.
Speaker 1: He's got so much attention over the last few weeks.
Speaker 3: Because you knew how much pressure he had on him already,
Speaker 3: and going in to the team equal first on the
Speaker 3: ladder Port Adelaide at home. I feel it's unfair because
Speaker 3: the expectation would be that the Sons lose this game,
Speaker 3: but once you get this much attention on you, it
Speaker 3: doesn't matter what the expectation is. You'd need a win
Speaker 3: to get people off your back. Now. Unfortunately the Sons
Speaker 3: didn't get that and there was a bit of controversy
Speaker 3: with Stewie ju taking Ben King off three quarter time
Speaker 3: at thre time he said it was a tactical sub.
Speaker 3: It was a bit slow out there, needed some more
Speaker 3: pace in the game, So explain that to him on
Speaker 3: the bench. You'd like to think that you could back
Speaker 3: in your big key marquee player to get themselves back
Speaker 3: into the game if they weren't out like, if they
Speaker 3: weren't in it, and it only takes a quarter for
Speaker 3: a big key forward to tear a game apart. So
Speaker 3: does that come down to attitude?
Speaker 1: Does it?
Speaker 3: You know, maybe it is just really slow out there,
Speaker 3: but you're keeping slower guys out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got to think. There's kas Baal kicked for
Speaker 1: on the day. So Caswall was essentially their massive key
Speaker 1: forward on the forward line. Take him out now, you're
Speaker 1: not going to take him out. And then if you're
Speaker 1: looking to play a bit of a faster ground because
Speaker 1: Adelaide's so small, ride so like Adelaide's fields a lot skinnier,
Speaker 1: it's a lot more fast paced whenever you're playing there.
Speaker 1: I think it highly in his decision making. He's like,
Speaker 1: I don't need as many bigs on here because we're behind.
Speaker 1: We need to get you know, the ball moving forward.
Speaker 1: We need to get a bit of pace on the game.
Speaker 1: So he takes the one person out of the two
Speaker 1: of those that are playing key forward that's not having
Speaker 1: as good of a day and that was me King
Speaker 1: on the day, So I think that was probably the
Speaker 1: decision behind. That was probably the reasoning. But you know,
Speaker 1: he had one disposal in the third quarter and it's
Speaker 1: like it can be frustrating as a key for it
Speaker 1: because you know you're not going to get a million
Speaker 1: disposals because you're not around the football. You're waiting for
Speaker 1: the body get two used. So yeah, he pulled out.
Speaker 1: It was it was a bit of a story over
Speaker 1: the weekend, but we all know what he can. You
Speaker 1: know Ben King can do can like you said, he
Speaker 1: can tear a port of game and in a quarter.
Speaker 1: So I think it would be awesome to see him
Speaker 1: come out in the next game. Just kick a bag,
Speaker 1: Just kick an absolute bag.
Speaker 3: I do love watching the King Boys play, So it
Speaker 3: wasn't a great weekend for either.
Speaker 1: Would it be if you saw both King Boys playing
Speaker 1: on the same time.
Speaker 3: I would love it. It would be so good, it
Speaker 3: would be really good. Class ask that was great insight
Speaker 3: as to why, because people get emotionally charged and they're like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: clearly Stewart jew just doesn't like Ben King. He's taking
Speaker 3: him off.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine Ben King wouldn't be playing next week.
Speaker 3: That would be travel science if we didn't see Ben
Speaker 3: King out there one more before we move into the
Speaker 3: positives of Port Adelaide, because there was plenty of them
Speaker 3: Gold Coast in a bit of trouble, obviously a lot
Speaker 3: of heat on them. But this is their next four
Speaker 3: Saints Giants away, who's a big big can't beat the
Speaker 3: Giants away Brisbane, then Adelaide away. It's a tough back end.
Speaker 3: That's a tough back end, and you know four more.
Speaker 3: You know ad losses and I said.
Speaker 1: I still want the Sons to make the eight. I
Speaker 1: know it's going to be a tough ride home. It's
Speaker 1: going to be an absolute tough ride home. It's what
Speaker 1: you might call the sunset, but it'll be it'll be
Speaker 1: interesting to see how they go. And it's it's going
Speaker 1: to take some I guess technically some some upsets on
Speaker 1: the on the wagering line. But I think the Sons
Speaker 1: is a chance. You know, there's always a chance. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what Touke Miller is. But if he comes
Speaker 1: back in the cycle back is he He's back huge,
Speaker 1: He's going to just dom it. I've got feeling he's
Speaker 1: gonna dominate. He's gonna bring the team up to to
Speaker 1: the tope eight.
Speaker 3: Let's jump into the Geelong North Melbourne game because you
Speaker 3: know it is what it is. This one, isn't it?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 3: One good thing for North Melbourne. Loved their kids. I
Speaker 3: thought they're kids. The full blue with the white kangaroo
Speaker 3: front center. I love that. That's bring that back. Maybe
Speaker 3: don't bring that footy back ever again.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe gim HBO their hometown.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, not great. I mean they've had a couple
Speaker 3: of rough weeks too, Geelong. This is where I'm getting to.
Speaker 3: They're starting to come home strong, which I don't like
Speaker 3: at all. Wow that one. I'm not a Geelong support
Speaker 3: mat So if you can string some wins together round
Speaker 3: twenty onwards. You've got the momentum going into finals and
Speaker 3: you can really do some damage.
Speaker 1: If they do make the eight, it'll be a force
Speaker 1: to be reckoned with.
Speaker 3: And if you're looking for any form of motivation, it
Speaker 3: all comes at finals. If you're these old guys and
Speaker 3: you know you might only have one two seasons left,
Speaker 3: really turn it on around finals time. Now, there was
Speaker 3: a nice little milestone. Seems we've been touching on milestone.
Speaker 3: Zack Towey got the Irish Games record off Jimmy Stein's. Yeah,
Speaker 3: obviously an absolute legend. Jimmy Steins and his family gifted
Speaker 3: him a nice little Melbourne jumper. Yeah, that was really good,
Speaker 3: just to say congratulations for the moment.
Speaker 1: It's incredible he's been able to accomplish and like me
Speaker 1: being an ex pat also that's come to Australia, Like
Speaker 1: it just kind of means I don't know, I look
Speaker 1: at that and I'm like that is so impressive, like
Speaker 1: so impressive of what he's dying. And not only that,
Speaker 1: but like kind of settling here in Australia. He's got
Speaker 1: a family and stuff now and the way he's just
Speaker 1: handled himselves has been incredible and it's a it's a
Speaker 1: credit to him and it's great to see him being
Speaker 1: able to, you know, to break that record. And I'm
Speaker 1: sure even after whenever he had his speech and stuff,
Speaker 1: he was like, you know, I'm almost embarrassed to still
Speaker 1: you know, be named with Jim Steins and it's incredible
Speaker 1: what he was able to bring to the game and
Speaker 1: in his career. And yeah, he just you know, he
Speaker 1: loves the idea of him and what he's been able
Speaker 1: to do for Irish, Irish players coming over here from
Speaker 1: from Ireland, it's incredible. And to have a Melbourne jumper
Speaker 1: given to him, I'm sure what a meant to light
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's crazy. And even during the game they
Speaker 1: begged himnd to kick a torp and he did it.
Speaker 1: He it was so good. It was just like a
Speaker 1: happy day for him.
Speaker 3: You know, we talked about little positive signs for some
Speaker 3: of these teams that aren't going to be playing finals.
Speaker 3: North Melbourne Cooper Harvey now Brent Harvey's son.
Speaker 1: It was so cool, so cool to see some of
Speaker 1: the media that came out with that, and he.
Speaker 3: Did a cool little yeah the day the announcement video
Speaker 3: where he was walking out with his son. He just mate,
Speaker 3: you've got to train hard today, Train hard, train hard today, mate,
Speaker 3: Dad piss off, like, what what do you reckon? I'm
Speaker 3: going to do, come out here, come out here in
Speaker 3: half it. But yeah, he got to announce that Cooper
Speaker 3: was playing footy and he came out. He had a
Speaker 3: really strong showing and kicked an amazing goal from fifty
Speaker 3: and everyone got around him and looks for the goods.
Speaker 3: So they just keep racking up these players the years.
Speaker 1: Four hundred games to go and that's just that's the record.
Speaker 3: Well, if he's got the jeans, he could surpass him.
Speaker 3: But a couple of downsides to this game. Now, Griffin
Speaker 3: Low came across from Frio was having a positive season
Speaker 3: unfortunately to his a cl which isn't good to see.
Speaker 3: And the North captain Jay Simpkin went down with a
Speaker 3: concussion so he'll miss next week. But Stangle did bounce
Speaker 3: back and kicked five. So he's he's been you know,
Speaker 3: his form has been down a bit, hasn't been kicking
Speaker 3: the goals. Well he just came out and kicked five. Now,
Speaker 3: I don't know what what's the Stangl said.
Speaker 1: Stangle sounds like as like the.
Speaker 3: No, I was thinking, try a stangle. What you know,
Speaker 3: the triangle, the musical instrument.
Speaker 1: Try stangle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the playoff words, mate, That's how it works,
Speaker 3: because what else is called a stangle? Nothing's a stangle,
Speaker 3: sang my creative throws to these games. Let's jump into
Speaker 3: the essen and Adelaide game. I think the score is
Speaker 3: flattering here because Essendon really put on a show. I
Speaker 3: feel like they've really been flying under the raidar for
Speaker 3: most people this season. But with that game on the weekend,
Speaker 3: obviously everyone's been talking Adelaide up and what they've been
Speaker 3: able to do this year. Well, Essendon really put on
Speaker 3: a dominant performance and you know, at halftime the game
Speaker 3: was arguably over at eighty one to forty four at halftime.
Speaker 3: Obviously Essenon going on to win one hundred and fifteen
Speaker 3: to ninety seven, but they looked good from start to finish.
Speaker 3: The pressure Mace was their all game. Zach Merritt taking
Speaker 3: over the captaincy, but just taking over this game. Thirty
Speaker 3: nine touches, six tackles, a goal and just brought the heat.
Speaker 3: He's really, you know, set in the standard for these
Speaker 3: young kids. And Brad Scott has him playing amazing footy
Speaker 3: and I don't know, it's pretty promising if you're an
Speaker 3: Essendon supporter.
Speaker 1: We mentioned it. I mean, if you are going into
Speaker 1: the back half of the season, get a bit of momentum,
Speaker 1: you make finals, like that's the timing year to want that,
Speaker 1: And the way I sense playing at the moment, they're
Speaker 1: definitely getting a bit in my momentum and playing well
Speaker 1: in the time that it counts, and you know, if
Speaker 1: they get a spot in the finals and they're in
Speaker 1: peak form, you do know it might be able to
Speaker 1: end that streak everyone talks about they haven't won a
Speaker 1: final on X amount of days whatever it is, like,
Speaker 1: if they continue on this projectory trajectory, then there's a
Speaker 1: chance that might be broken.
Speaker 3: It's I don't know, it's really exciting to watch them
Speaker 3: play and Brad Scott's done it in a really smart
Speaker 3: way where preseason he set that expectation to say, look,
Speaker 3: we're probably a couple of years off it, but we're
Speaker 3: going to give it a red hot crack this year
Speaker 3: and it just set that expectation, you know, a bit lower.
Speaker 3: So now that they're up and about and they're flying,
Speaker 3: everyone's getting right around them and you know, they're not invincible.
Speaker 3: They're not like you can't not score against them or whatever,
Speaker 3: but they're in every single game from start to finish.
Speaker 3: They just keep putting it on their opposition and it's
Speaker 3: it's interesting and you do love seeing the big clubs
Speaker 3: up and about. If Carlton can start pulling their way,
Speaker 3: which they've started to do in the past few weeks,
Speaker 3: get all the big teams coming up. It's always good
Speaker 3: to see Fremantle v Carlton.
Speaker 1: Was it four weeks now?
Speaker 3: They haven't lost, they haven't lost in four weeks and
Speaker 3: I'll give it to them this week.
Speaker 1: That was there Domino.
Speaker 3: That was their best win for the year, convincingly. Now Freeman,
Speaker 3: like in Perth ad optus Freemantle just couldn't get going.
Speaker 3: And they couldn't get going because Carlton has brought the
Speaker 3: same pressure for the last couple of weeks. And it's
Speaker 3: amazing what pressure can do. I don't understand it as
Speaker 3: a person that's outside the footy environment, because I can
Speaker 3: always say that pressure is the one thing you don't
Speaker 3: need any talent to produce. Yep, Like why are they
Speaker 3: just bringing it now? But once you see that pressure,
Speaker 3: it just froze Freemantle, they couldn't do anything.
Speaker 1: And I think once you get that pressure, then it
Speaker 1: kind of, you know, puts them on the back foot,
Speaker 1: and then they're constantly kind of almost shitting themselves, going like, oh,
Speaker 1: how do I get this disposal up effectively to the
Speaker 1: next presson? Try to the forward line, and that momentum
Speaker 1: just keeps going forward and that leads into your forward line.
Speaker 1: And yeah, for them to kick ninety eight and Freemantle
Speaker 1: only forty five credit to their defense and offense. And
Speaker 1: on the day it was, it was it was impressive.
Speaker 1: Like I remember sitting there at halftime and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Carlton is dominating this game, like dominating
Speaker 1: this game. So yeah, it's like you said, I think
Speaker 1: it's Carlton's best one of the seasons so far. And
Speaker 1: it's coming to the time that they needed it and
Speaker 1: they're going to need to continue this momentum if they
Speaker 1: want to make finals, and they're well aware of that.
Speaker 1: But it does release the pressure. You have to think,
Speaker 1: like four weeks ago, how much talk was there about Carlton.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it was everyone's head on a stick. Now, hey,
Speaker 1: there's a chance of making the eight.
Speaker 3: You can really only give your opinion based off what
Speaker 3: you can see. And before the last three wins, they
Speaker 3: were this.
Speaker 1: Is footy, though it can change very quickly.
Speaker 3: Well, maybe the criticism did them wonders and they started
Speaker 3: to perform off the back of that. I want to
Speaker 3: ask something now that they say there's no dumb questions, man,
Speaker 3: but I'm going to throw one at you. Is there
Speaker 3: from a technical reason, like a technical standpoint, is there
Speaker 3: a reason why a team couldn't bring the pressure? You know,
Speaker 3: if it's like, oh, too many people go at the
Speaker 3: ball carrier, it leaves too many people on the outside
Speaker 3: and you can get cut up. Is there, Oh, our
Speaker 3: structure doesn't allow us to eat close or their structure
Speaker 3: doesn't allow us because they chip mark chip Mark. Is
Speaker 3: there reasons why you can't just go all flat out
Speaker 3: attack on the ball carrier.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can, But I mean, like you said, if
Speaker 1: there's a slow team, like let's say it's West Coast
Speaker 1: West Coast chip Mark team, right, Western Bulldogs handball through teams,
Speaker 1: so like there's different teams with different game plans, different
Speaker 1: styles that handle pressure in different ways. And if you're
Speaker 1: sitting there and saying like why can't the pressure you
Speaker 1: know from for the forward line happen? And you've got
Speaker 1: myself time six, it's probably freaking reason, like you're too big, Like,
Speaker 1: so there is like you know, certain things that happen there,
Speaker 1: you know, certain game plans or maybe players within a
Speaker 1: system that can't provide as much pressure as someone like
Speaker 1: a Taylor Adams. Right, so you offset a big like
Speaker 1: me with someone like Taylor Adams who brings twice as
Speaker 1: much pressure as probably other people, you get an even
Speaker 1: you know, an even tout. So I think it's it's
Speaker 1: something like we value very highly at our club, like
Speaker 1: pressure or a pressure side. But I think other clubs,
Speaker 1: you know, they just have different game plans and some
Speaker 1: can you handle pressure a bit better and some can't.
Speaker 1: And you know, a lot of probably has more to
Speaker 1: do with the offensive side of things and the defensive
Speaker 1: side of things. But yeah, it comes down to how
Speaker 1: in shape you are probably as a team, like pressure
Speaker 1: can be considered based on that. But also it's a mentality.
Speaker 1: It is a mentality bit of like whether or not
Speaker 1: you're going to make sure that this is an effective
Speaker 1: disposal if your man does get the ball.
Speaker 3: So I know now Bo McCreary's lifting a lot of
Speaker 3: a lot of workload. It's covering a lot of people,
Speaker 3: It's covering all my pressure points. It's good to see.
Speaker 3: But obviously, going into next week, Carlton finally have their
Speaker 3: chance to you know, test this pressure against one of
Speaker 3: the top teams in the competition. If massive game, if
Speaker 3: not the top team at the moment, Port Adelaide at
Speaker 3: Marvel Stadium, So away game for both of them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: game for both of them. It's going to be very
Speaker 3: interesting to see how that pressure stands up.
Speaker 1: Who you got win in that game?
Speaker 3: If the if the Carlton of the last two weeks
Speaker 3: shows up, Yeah, they're going to give him a red
Speaker 3: hot crack and I yeah, I can see Carlton winning
Speaker 3: that game if they if that would be huge pressure
Speaker 3: comes so you know, intgoligiable pressure has to be that
Speaker 3: and it's what happened last year. They probably got ahead
Speaker 3: of themselves a fair bit in the media pumping up
Speaker 3: Carlton when they had only verse teams outside the eight.
Speaker 3: Now we get to see if they can do it
Speaker 3: against the team inside the eight, inside the top four,
Speaker 3: inside the top two.
Speaker 1: Mace Real test a lot of Carlton fans out there
Speaker 1: are just sweating on that game, wondering how that's going
Speaker 1: to come out.
Speaker 3: Well, they've got you know, their back, They're you know,
Speaker 3: not going They're ready to take the lid off again.
Speaker 3: Western Bulldogs versus Collingwood. Geez. Talk about another close one, Mace.
Speaker 3: He came down to it in the end, but it
Speaker 3: was a topsy turvy affair because they you know, jumped
Speaker 3: right out of the blocks. The hot on your earlier
Speaker 3: We've got to jump forward to this one. Norton and
Speaker 3: Jamara first half, they were blowing the doors off the seat.
Speaker 3: It was crazy to see because obviously Jamara the last
Speaker 3: couple of weeks really you know, found his form another
Speaker 3: gear at the moment, and he's marking form in particular.
Speaker 3: He is just hanging over packs and it was very
Speaker 3: much the same. Norton's always had it, He's always shown it.
Speaker 3: So seeing those two up early flying for everything, mark
Speaker 3: and everything, kicking most things, it had to be you know,
Speaker 3: you guys must have been shuddering at the thought.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think obviously we've had a few
Speaker 1: teams do this to us, and you know, we've been
Speaker 1: able to come back and by the fourth quarter. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was it was impressive. Like they're the way they
Speaker 1: bought like move the ball and I think they're just
Speaker 1: hands and skills inside is like so clean like the Bulldogs,
Speaker 1: and they can kind of you know, we talk about
Speaker 1: pressure before of like being able to handle it and stuff,
Speaker 1: like their hands through pressure is so clean and good
Speaker 1: that sometimes like you, if you don't bring it and
Speaker 1: bringing it an elite elite elite level, they can be
Speaker 1: damaging on the other way. So their their turnover game
Speaker 1: going back the other way is really really good. And
Speaker 1: the ability to spread and be able to get it
Speaker 1: into the bigs was really good at the bed of
Speaker 1: that game and it was a credit to them. They
Speaker 1: were smashed us in the first probably you know it's
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes.
Speaker 3: Where did the game turn.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe it was Darcy Moore tackling BoNT
Speaker 1: on the goal line that got me hyped.
Speaker 3: That was so good.
Speaker 1: Oh, that was so good. It was real, like Olie
Speaker 1: Henry goal square should probably kick the goal but gets
Speaker 1: tackled and like couldn't get it to his boot and
Speaker 1: a captain tackle. Big time. Play's credit Tom and I
Speaker 1: reckon that was probably one of those things that momentum
Speaker 1: just shifted a little bit whenever that happened, and we
Speaker 1: were able to go on a bit of a run.
Speaker 3: A sliding door of moments like that, because Bonton Pali
Speaker 3: the play before, running into an open goal and missed,
Speaker 3: which you don't see Bonton Pally do. And then when
Speaker 3: he ducked out the back and it looked like he
Speaker 3: was going to run into an open square and you're like, oh, well,
Speaker 3: he's getting this one back pretty quick holding the ball,
Speaker 3: which he is almost rarer. And I was thinking there
Speaker 3: was a fleeting thought in my mind of like to
Speaker 3: get Bonton Pally to the ground. He's a strong boy.
Speaker 3: Darcy really had to flick him like a five point
Speaker 3: forty and tackle him to ground. And I was like,
Speaker 3: if they pay some kind of dangerous tackle, that's where
Speaker 3: it gets, you know, Dicey, when it's like you, he's
Speaker 3: a big guy, takes a lot of leverage to get
Speaker 3: to the ground. Caleb Daniel photo of you next to him,
Speaker 3: like a legend by the way, taken your son to
Speaker 3: work to day.
Speaker 2: And he's actually.
Speaker 1: Such a good player too, one of the best kicks
Speaker 1: in the com.
Speaker 3: Actually he tackled Sean Darcy or got him in a
Speaker 3: big bump earlier in the year. Yeah, so moments like that,
Speaker 3: it's like, if he wants to tackle you to the ground,
Speaker 3: he's going to have to use a hell of.
Speaker 1: A lot of leverage, and like because I thick it.
Speaker 3: So it's like, I don't know, you're putting a lot
Speaker 3: of players in like weird precarious positions, like with that
Speaker 3: rule change, but I mean it has to happen. There
Speaker 3: was a few things out of this game, a few
Speaker 3: talking points. Will Huskin Elliott broken and so he'll probably
Speaker 3: miss a few weeks, it looks like, which is really
Speaker 3: not idea. Obviously, no steal at the moment. So you
Speaker 3: got a little position to fill there, which would be
Speaker 3: interesting to see. But you've got a lot of young
Speaker 3: kids that like to run up and down there all day,
Speaker 3: so I'm sure that'll be fine. Now, you've got a
Speaker 3: couple of brothers that play for you. I don't know
Speaker 3: if you know these guys, Niko, DECUSI and Josh. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they're my I don't even.
Speaker 1: Freaks is what freaks of nature?
Speaker 3: Half of me sick of talking about him every week.
Speaker 3: But the other half is just I just love talking
Speaker 3: about him every week because they do ship that no
Speaker 3: one has seen.
Speaker 1: And it's like Josh was you know, Josh is somewhat
Speaker 1: flown under the radar because there's so much hype around
Speaker 1: Neck in the Brown Line, all this kind of stuff. Right, Like,
Speaker 1: Josh has been an insane I think he's Australian this year,
Speaker 1: but people wouldn't even think about it.
Speaker 3: I think he's starting to get deplauded that he deserves,
Speaker 3: like they're starting to realize because he's becoming undeniable, the
Speaker 3: kids getting twenty eight thirty touches, couple of goals a game,
Speaker 3: like just he's just a machine and he's kicking in
Speaker 3: particular against the Bulldogs, he was just there wasn't a
Speaker 3: target that he couldn't hit. There was one up on
Speaker 3: the wing where he was mid getting hit and he
Speaker 3: hits it down the line and you know, hits like
Speaker 3: Ash Johnson on the lead or something like right on
Speaker 3: the tit and it's like, mate, how do you how
Speaker 3: do you even do that? Like there's some some bluckskneing
Speaker 3: at a twenty meter out in the open.
Speaker 1: The one I had was Nick, He's sitting there in
Speaker 1: the fore. He's coming through as a midfielder and like
Speaker 1: the ball comes the ground, he just like picks it
Speaker 1: up and just like bananas from about forty five, just casually.
Speaker 3: And I've seen the lead up play for that. He
Speaker 3: is in defensive fifty. Yeah, you know Wander's contest to contest.
Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, here, if you need handball, one two
Speaker 3: jugs onto the next contest. Yeah yeah, one two runs
Speaker 3: back and then like front and center for the thing,
Speaker 3: gets the banana outside the foot, little celebration back to
Speaker 3: the middle. It's like, mate, stop it.
Speaker 1: I will say this. I had someone recently when a
Speaker 1: player on an opposition team right was playing against me,
Speaker 1: and Nick had done xyz you know, in the game,
Speaker 1: and he just he goes, he's behind me, he goes,
Speaker 1: He's an absolute freak of an athlete, didn't he? And
Speaker 1: I was like, yep, it's great to have him on
Speaker 1: my team too. He just they both just that thinks
Speaker 1: he's amazing. Like everyone in the league sees it and
Speaker 1: is like this is insane.
Speaker 3: They both float, they float through the air and just
Speaker 3: they do the most miraculous things. The one where Josh
Speaker 3: got the ball and it could have been maybe not
Speaker 3: fifteen or not, but he didn't even care. He already
Speaker 3: played on and just kicked it off. A step went
Speaker 3: straight through the middle from the boundary, and it's just
Speaker 3: like they can do amazing things and they're undeniable. Now
Speaker 3: I think both of them are undeniable. I think earlier
Speaker 3: in the year everyone tried to poke holes in Nick
Speaker 3: Dakos's game. He gets easy touches. There was one moment
Speaker 3: that was fleeting on tape where he pulled out of
Speaker 3: a contest. Oh, he's soft, even though he had like
Speaker 3: thirty contested possessions for the game or whatever. It's like
Speaker 3: they're really just trying to prick holes in it. Fans
Speaker 3: opposition fans because you know, the same thing. Tear him down, mate,
Speaker 3: they're trying to get too high. But yeah, I think
Speaker 3: both Deakos brothers are undeniable. I think both the luck
Speaker 3: for all Australian and I think Nicks we don't want
Speaker 3: to say it on this podcast, but jeez, going well.
Speaker 3: He's going very well.
Speaker 1: But the biggest thing that came out of this, I
Speaker 1: think in one of the biggest moments of the game,
Speaker 1: it was awesome the fans got involved it was a
Speaker 1: bit of a rock and atmosphere for a disposal. Now
Speaker 1: Pendles broke the disposal record and it was insane, like
Speaker 1: being out there, I didn't really know when it happens.
Speaker 1: There's two three disposals. He got kind of quickly in
Speaker 1: a little bit of a passage of play, and the
Speaker 1: crowd was getting up and about. You know, every single
Speaker 1: one was like, was that it was?
Speaker 3: The next one?
Speaker 2: Was that one?
Speaker 1: It was not the one he broke the record?
Speaker 2: Was that the one?
Speaker 1: Like you couldn't tell. But he came up on the
Speaker 1: on the big jumbo tron that he broke the record,
Speaker 1: and I think Pendles was like more annoyed that people
Speaker 1: were talking about it so much. He was like, let's
Speaker 1: just win the game, let's move on, like but he
Speaker 1: doesn't really like I feel like it's just like that
Speaker 1: is such a big deal and it's a credit to
Speaker 1: him in his career. And we've looked, you know, we've
Speaker 1: always looked back on these things, you know, the three
Speaker 1: fiftieth game and all these other things of him and
Speaker 1: this milestones that he's been able to accomplish, and this
Speaker 1: is one that definitely is like top of the table
Speaker 1: as far as milestones. It's insane, Like you're the most
Speaker 1: disposal of any player to ever play AFL.
Speaker 3: Well, he's got a few mornings sites because he'll go
Speaker 3: on next year sign another contract. He'll be knocking at
Speaker 3: the door of ten thousand disposals.
Speaker 1: It'd be cool.
Speaker 3: He'll be knocking at the door of four hundred games,
Speaker 3: like there's some massive milestones. And he just keeps trucking
Speaker 3: like I don't see him. He's just he can't slow down.
Speaker 3: I was gonna, I can't see him slowing.
Speaker 1: They'll slow down around him.
Speaker 3: I was looking at him going like he wants to
Speaker 3: hit some you know.
Speaker 1: Real like inside forty five gets us a goal.
Speaker 3: He's pretty special. I'd say that now. One last thing
Speaker 3: before we do wrap it up. May Sports Illustrated. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you've heard of it. It's this little
Speaker 3: rag that they run out of the States nowadays, and
Speaker 3: the biggest.
Speaker 1: Sports publication aren't there. Yep, yeah, I heard about it, so.
Speaker 3: It might be it might not be a pretty big
Speaker 3: deal anyway. I saw your post over the weekend, the
Speaker 3: AFL featuring on the big double page spread huge.
Speaker 1: I think they're like five pages in it, and it
Speaker 1: was the very very front of the magazine, so a
Speaker 1: lot of people realizing what IFL is and getting the
Speaker 1: exposure on a big stage, which is pretty cool. And
Speaker 1: it was the Women's World Cup issues, so obviously women's
Speaker 1: cut coming to Australia a big big deal and New
Speaker 1: Zealand and yeah they had AFL was one of the
Speaker 1: I guess the openers to the to the magazine, which
Speaker 1: was really cool. It was really cool, man. And it's
Speaker 1: like I grew up watching, sorry, reading Sports Illustrated. That
Speaker 1: was kind of like the media before Swimsuit Edition everything else.
Speaker 1: I did have a few of those.
Speaker 3: Everyone did, right, kids, I pretend like I didn't know
Speaker 3: about the magazine.
Speaker 1: I know that one man and what was that girl's name?
Speaker 3: I'm not getting into, but no, it was.
Speaker 1: It was awesome, Like it was pretty cool to see
Speaker 1: that and I got something that you read as a
Speaker 1: kid and then seeing your own face in there was
Speaker 1: a pretty cool experience to say the least. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was a great exposure for the IFL,
Speaker 1: great exposure for the club and a few other clubs
Speaker 1: that were involved in something. Hopefully, you know, we can
Speaker 1: get around as a as a league.
Speaker 3: Now, did you think growing up reading the Sports Illustrated
Speaker 3: magazine that you'd see your own face in there doing
Speaker 3: a double cobra.
Speaker 1: The old trap cloak double covers. Maybe, hey, not the
Speaker 1: only first, and I did this weekend. Nick Tankos joined
Speaker 1: the club the two double cobras.
Speaker 3: It was a good go.
Speaker 1: He's a freak, absolutely freak. But all right, we'll end
Speaker 1: it there. Thanks everyone for listening. Absolute legends. We'll have more.
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Speaker 1: that's coming out later this week.
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Speaker 1: I had someone at the game, someone of the game
Speaker 1: had the merch, and I said, I made sure to
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