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Speaker 1: Michael Thompson from Channel nine is joining us.

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Speaker 2: Tom Hello, Lisa, Clare's your great da your voice on

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Speaker 2: an absolutely brilliant day.

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Speaker 3: Is it a beautiful day and it's going to be

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Speaker 3: a beautiful day tomorrow to pop down to your polling

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Speaker 3: booth for the referendum, which we've been talking about for

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Speaker 3: a long time. That's finally here. What are the polls saying, Michael.

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Speaker 2: Well, the polls are saying that no vote will win

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Speaker 2: out and quite clearly they're saying that. But we do

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Speaker 2: have to remember that in the last five years we've

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Speaker 2: seen a number of polls which have been wrong. When

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Speaker 2: Scott Morrison got in, when Boris Johnson got in, when

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Speaker 2: Trump first won against Clinton, the polls were saying that

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Speaker 2: that wouldn't happen. Are we going to see something come

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Speaker 2: out of the box here. We don't have a lot

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Speaker 2: of referendums, but if you go on history, forty four referendums,

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Speaker 2: only eight only eight have got through. So I think

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Speaker 2: it's going to be very tough for the Yes vote

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Speaker 2: to get up. But the one thing here is and

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Speaker 2: five million people have already voted. Five million have already voted,

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Speaker 2: which is that as of this morning, which is quite

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Speaker 2: amazing because you can vote early now, Yes, but what

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Speaker 2: are people going to think when they when you hear

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Speaker 2: and you listen to those that are pushing the yes

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Speaker 2: and those that are pushing no. Once you get in

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Speaker 2: that booth, that's your own world. So you know, I

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Speaker 2: really mean this to everybody who votes. Once you get

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Speaker 2: in there, you've had time to think about it, to

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Speaker 2: weigh it all up. It's your vote. It's no one

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Speaker 2: else's business. It's your vote. So it's your chance to

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Speaker 2: have us say so, don't waste it.

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Speaker 3: Michael, I saw the campaign for the referendum, in particular

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Speaker 3: the Yes side of it, described the other day as

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Speaker 3: what will go down is the very benchmark for how

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Speaker 3: not to run a referendum campaign. Would you say that

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Speaker 3: that's fair, that the whole thing has has felt all along,

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Speaker 3: a bit, all whole together.

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Speaker 2: I think so, although I think they were led into

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Speaker 2: a false sense of security. When Pat Farmer started run

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Speaker 2: months ago it was fifty eight percent and I think

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Speaker 2: he felt, and certainly their campaign felt the S campaign

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Speaker 2: that that could grow to sixty five percent, which would

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Speaker 2: certainly put in a position to win a majority of states. Remember,

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Speaker 2: you have to do that as well. It's not just

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Speaker 2: a majority of votes in a majority of states. They

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Speaker 2: thought they could, but it has slowly gone backwards from there.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of the criticism Lisa has been

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Speaker 2: that they didn't really have a central point at the Albanez.

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Speaker 2: He certainly was there, but it didn't really have a

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Speaker 2: core and a message that continued all the way through.

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Speaker 1: That's what was group.

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Speaker 2: Rather than than individuals. But you know, they are so hard.

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Speaker 2: We are a conservative country. We are very conservative countries.

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Speaker 2: We don't like change and they are always very, very

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Speaker 2: tough to get through.

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Speaker 4: No Tomo is a very different referendum, this one to

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Speaker 4: have one with the major political parties taking very clear sides.

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Speaker 4: Changed the changed the last few weeks and last few

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Speaker 4: months big time. Hasn't it very political?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? And it's got very political, There's no question about that.

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Speaker 2: I think what Peter Dutton said, look, there will be

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Speaker 2: absolutely bipartisan support to get the referendum through Parliament, which

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Speaker 2: was great, but once it got through and we had

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Speaker 2: a referendum, then he certainly raised his flag to say

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Speaker 2: we're pushing for a no vote and yeah, it got

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Speaker 2: very political. And let's face it, both sides. It's got

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Speaker 2: pretty nasty as well. I don't think Australians take kindly

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Speaker 2: to that. I don't think Ozzie's like being told what

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Speaker 2: to think or do, whether it's to vote no or

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Speaker 2: to vote yes. I think we sort of get our

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Speaker 2: back up a bit about that, and I think both

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Speaker 2: sides would have lost out there. Don't tell people how

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Speaker 2: to vote. You can certainly say these are the reasons

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Speaker 2: I think would be a good idea, and these are

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Speaker 2: the advantages or disadvantages, but don't tell me how to think.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people feel that way.

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Speaker 1: And do you think we'll get a result?

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Speaker 3: And especially considering I guess the polls over East we'll

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Speaker 3: close three hours before hours, so they get a bit

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Speaker 3: of a head start.

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Speaker 1: Well we get a Are we likely to have a

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Speaker 1: result Saturday night?

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Speaker 2: Shall It's a really good question because the Election Commission

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Speaker 2: has said they will not give a definitive result tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: But okay, you will certainly know the direction in which

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Speaker 2: the vote is going, so you know you can get

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Speaker 2: an earlier It can be declared by a party and

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Speaker 2: say you know, we're yeah. But in this one they

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Speaker 2: have said this morning they won't officially call it tomorrow night,

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Speaker 2: but we'll certainly get an idea of which way the

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Speaker 2: botot is going, particularly with daylight saving and three hours

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Speaker 2: ahead of the edge.

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Speaker 4: Might be anyone conceding early time that five million or

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Speaker 4: five million is early votes. I mean that could be

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Speaker 4: seven or eight vote stumps tonight.

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Speaker 2: It's bizarre, isn't it. It's it's crazy. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: all grew up. You know, the polls open and that's

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Speaker 2: you know, you vote on the day unless you're overseas.

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Speaker 2: It's changed a lot, and they've been very visual too,

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Speaker 2: Like we've got a couple around where we are. It

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Speaker 2: makes it a lot easier. And you know that that

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Speaker 2: that that big rush up to the end. Yes, it's

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Speaker 2: certainly still you know, there's a lot of work going

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Speaker 2: on at the moment, but a lot of people have

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Speaker 2: already made up their mind and have already put in

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Speaker 2: the paper.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, no, I think it's fabulous.

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Speaker 4: Earlier to the pencil to post. Someone handed someone Nino

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Speaker 4: pencil the other day and he said, oh, I brought

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Speaker 4: my own pen just in case.

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Speaker 1: But are you that's what he's telling me. Isn't that

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Speaker 1: a rule that you have to be pets.

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Speaker 4: Does that pencils that have to.

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Speaker 3: Be pencil I thought that was just well, I thought

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Speaker 3: that was election one oh one.

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Speaker 1: You have to use the pencil, unless he was just

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Speaker 1: being paranomed.

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Speaker 3: You know, like writing something in red pen when it

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Speaker 3: clearly says this must be in blue or black.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, channel nine six pm the years.

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Speaker 2: We'll have updates through the night. And woman, you're telling

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Speaker 2: you what's happening in the big big One. Look whatever

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Speaker 2: anyone votes out there, as I say, once you get

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Speaker 2: inside you've had a chance to weigh it all up

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Speaker 2: and just don't waste the vote.

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Speaker 1: It's an important, absolutely it is. Thank you, Michael, I

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Speaker 1: want to talk to you pleasure guys. Thanks by all

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Speaker 1: the best