WEBVTT - #87 The Chief Would Like Some Of Your Oreos

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<v Speaker 1>Asked the question everyone wants hands in. How was the

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<v Speaker 1>flesh light still boxed up?

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<v Speaker 2>My guy, it's a lie. It isn't a lie. I promise.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise because I did have you on speaker phone

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<v Speaker 2>when I said to April, guess what Maddie J got me?

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<v Speaker 2>And she played it pretty cool like Q yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>On the phone, she was like, oh, that's so thoughtful.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like it's gonna be fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she pokes her head back and shoes to

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<v Speaker 2>let me catch you using that thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, welcome back to two notting dads. I'm Mattie Jay

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Ash and this is a podcast all about

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<v Speaker 1>parenting and flesh lights, the good, the bad, and the

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<v Speaker 1>flesh light. If you've come wanting any type of flesh

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<v Speaker 1>light advice, say because that is what.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what we talk about. Now. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>flesh lights and two flesh lighting dads and shit.

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<v Speaker 1>That is like the two main topics of what we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about. I can't tell if people enjoy the shit

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<v Speaker 1>chat or if they're like, oh god, it's another.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone was like, two grown men talking about shit is deplorable,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I have a laugh, cockhead.

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<v Speaker 1>What else is there to talk about nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids, shit a lot, We shit a lot. Oh yeah

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<v Speaker 2>that too. What's going on? What's happening? So what I what?

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<v Speaker 2>I I what I miss?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I see you every day now I

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<v Speaker 2>got nothing to talk. Let's just see different hour.

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<v Speaker 1>And we had what was it, ten days and not

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<v Speaker 1>seeing each other.

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<v Speaker 2>We did yes, which we get into we'll get into short.

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<v Speaker 3>Both of us were aching aching for some company about

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<v Speaker 3>aching and we're like, I did call you, I think

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<v Speaker 3>like stay seventy and I was like, anyway, I'm going

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<v Speaker 3>to go, and you were like, don't edge.

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<v Speaker 2>Me like that. You ring me.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd call me and you'd be like hey about hey,

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, oh, I'm going to go, and I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>such a tea god.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I just wanted to win to you because

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<v Speaker 2>we ran out of Nappy's on the ship and I

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<v Speaker 2>just walked out fourteen sets of stairs and I was

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<v Speaker 2>like so hungover to because I did carry the night before.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, and You're like, don't dare ring

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<v Speaker 2>me up and edge me over the phones.

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<v Speaker 1>You call, I get comfy, I sit down, I strapped.

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<v Speaker 2>Pull your dick out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I sit there. And then you're like I can't

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<v Speaker 1>talk right now. I'm like, well, Jesus, I know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll playing sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>So we didn't talk about it last episode, but I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to know how the cruise went. Because we

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<v Speaker 1>went on a cruise for the first time together. You've

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<v Speaker 1>now ditched me. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, you you wanted to try and work more around Laura.

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<v Speaker 2>As the doting husband that you are, you'll do so,

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<v Speaker 2>don't you dare throw me under the bathroom because you

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<v Speaker 2>were just doing something nice for you and your family.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you were like, hey, I'm thinking about taking this

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<v Speaker 1>two month cruise all throughout the Pacific, and I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if Laura's schedule allows for that, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, so.

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<v Speaker 2>You are sorry. We wanted to do a longer one,

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<v Speaker 2>like and something in the cold weather here but warm

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<v Speaker 2>weather somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>Else, So sue me talk me through it.

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<v Speaker 2>I did it with my family and my mom and

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<v Speaker 2>my dad. And one thing I did realize I started

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<v Speaker 2>doing early on was because my mom was there, and

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<v Speaker 2>you probably do it with Laura too. When you're talking

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<v Speaker 2>to your kids, you refer to each other as mummy

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<v Speaker 2>and daddy. I started to do that with my mum.

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<v Speaker 2>I just called her mummy. A few times.

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<v Speaker 1>I started doing that as well, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>ah fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course my mom would not let me

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<v Speaker 2>live it down every time. My mom should be like,

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<v Speaker 2>that's mummy to you, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, like posh English people say that.

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<v Speaker 2>I like mummy, Mama, Papa, Mom, John Ty and mummy.

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<v Speaker 1>I said it the other day in the kitchen. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Mummy, what's the dinner. Laura was like, what

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<v Speaker 1>the hell was that?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I mean early nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>We got stake tonight or what.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a really good trip was out to Vanawatu.

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<v Speaker 1>Must be nice.

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<v Speaker 2>It was must it was very nice. Bit bumping on

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<v Speaker 2>the way out. But we left on the day that

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<v Speaker 2>the fairies were all shut because the swell was so big.

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<v Speaker 2>It was huge, it was massive, but we were because you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have what's it called the departure party. No, it's not that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a sail away.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was. It was actually okay because can I.

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<v Speaker 1>Just say, for those people who have not been fortunate

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<v Speaker 1>enough to go on a cruise, at the moment you

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<v Speaker 1>leave port, they have a sail away party. Just everyone

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<v Speaker 1>gets really drunk on the deck.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty much, but like the good thing was a sail

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<v Speaker 2>away takes place, you know when you're still in the

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<v Speaker 2>harbor pretty much, which is not because you go past

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<v Speaker 2>the bridge, the opera house, all the iconic Sydney Sydney

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<v Speaker 2>things which you know, and then we got out. It

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<v Speaker 2>was just a bit bumpy. Later on you're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're pissed. I was, but also you're definitely off

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<v Speaker 2>bumping into the wa and you don't have your sea

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<v Speaker 2>legs yet essentially. But yeah, it was a nice smooth

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<v Speaker 2>trip up and then you get to you get to

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<v Speaker 2>the island and which ones did We went to went

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<v Speaker 2>to well, no, No. Three islands in Manawatu. I can't

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<v Speaker 2>remember what it called. Port Villa was one mystery island

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't love me. I can't remember the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>Not critical, but the kids it's their second cruise this year,

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<v Speaker 2>so they acclimatized really quickly. The Kids Club is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you've got kids and you want to ditchy kids

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<v Speaker 2>for like a trip, that is the place because they

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<v Speaker 2>they send you the every day, they send you the

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<v Speaker 2>schedule or what's going on, and the kids are frothing.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you remember we were on the last trip together,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first morning this is day two. The line

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<v Speaker 1>for kids clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like that, yeah, because.

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<v Speaker 1>Everybody was saying, this is not normally like this, but

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<v Speaker 1>we Yeah, it was like an hour wait to drop

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<v Speaker 1>your kids off. And I was like, oh god, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just not going to bother.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't bother, no, no. And it was only a

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<v Speaker 2>short trip that one. We got there registered pretty early,

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<v Speaker 2>pretty easy. It was actually very very easy compared to

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<v Speaker 2>the last one, which is good. So they've obviously improved

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<v Speaker 2>for that, so that's amazing. But we got to the

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<v Speaker 2>islands and it was hot. The first time we got

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<v Speaker 2>to It was kind of like being on a boat

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<v Speaker 2>for a few days and then getting off and you

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much walk straight into like a local market. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just them trying to see their crap, you know, as

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<v Speaker 2>they do what they sell a lot of, like sarongs

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<v Speaker 2>and shit, did you buy anhym nah? That was like

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<v Speaker 2>the first stop, which was it was a pretty average place.

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<v Speaker 2>To be completely honest with you, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 2>It was nice. Like when he got round to like

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<v Speaker 2>where the main city is on that was like on.

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<v Speaker 1>Their harbor, not a big sarrong guy, not a big

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<v Speaker 1>sarrong guy, So you were like, what else have you got?

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<v Speaker 2>Like just laid on. Then we went to the next

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<v Speaker 2>island next day and it was raining and we had

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<v Speaker 2>a beach to a book. So that's no good either.

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<v Speaker 2>Nice great, but we made the most of it anyway,

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<v Speaker 2>Like Oscar run.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the video of April pissing in the water.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was great. That was a highlight. That was good.

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<v Speaker 2>And on that tour there was a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>like the tour guy was really informative of like what's around,

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<v Speaker 2>what they do, what they grow, what they what do

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<v Speaker 2>they they live coconuts and that, you know, the fruits

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<v Speaker 2>that are in and the stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I please go on.

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<v Speaker 2>No, But the third trip we did, which is Mystery Island,

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<v Speaker 2>absolutely beautiful. It was pish, pish, picturesque. It was picturesque.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like, this is a tropical island. It was beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>Any wrongs, yes, wrongs still the wrongs, that's right. It

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<v Speaker 2>was the wrong weather. Yeah, but that day we had

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<v Speaker 2>a modern cultural tour booked and it was like the

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<v Speaker 2>nicest state. I was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Fuck fully, Like I just want to lay on the sand. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you can't tell. If you'd be a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of some baking, relaxing kind of gun now you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what do you like to do?

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<v Speaker 2>Surf? If I if I had, if I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>a tour book, I would have tried to find someone

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<v Speaker 2>to take me surfing somewhere, trying to find something. But

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<v Speaker 2>we had the cultural tour as a group, all of us,

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<v Speaker 2>my family and my parents lovely, and they take you

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<v Speaker 2>across to this island of like there's three tribes. There's

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<v Speaker 2>like a southern tribe and northern tribe and the central tribe.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them is like French speaking because of the colonialism.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure the right word. Not sure. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>a history teacher. And then there's the north one, but

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<v Speaker 2>the one they take you to the central one and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a beautiful place to got the little kids, a

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<v Speaker 2>little school, little church. I don't know if you've ever

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<v Speaker 2>taken two small children on a cultural tour.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say I have. Actually, we were in Fiji

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<v Speaker 1>a little while ago and they did after like an

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<v Speaker 1>outdoor dinner followed by a show like but it was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of entertaining. It was a bit scary, actually, the

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<v Speaker 1>kids petrified because they came out and they're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>like with breathing fire.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what I expected. I thought, I'll take

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<v Speaker 2>the kids on a cultural tour. Maybe it'll snap some

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<v Speaker 2>sense into these spoiled little kids. You know, we got there,

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<v Speaker 2>we were like walking through and you go to like

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<v Speaker 2>they take you up. There's like three stops on this tour.

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<v Speaker 2>It's all walking, it's not far. And the first one

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<v Speaker 2>is about you know, their housing, how they live, and

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<v Speaker 2>then the food, how they forest, how they hunt, how

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<v Speaker 2>they gather. And then there's the warrior side of thing

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<v Speaker 2>where they back in the day when they had warriors

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<v Speaker 2>and they help fighting, fighting for land and blah blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah. So we enter and the first thing

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<v Speaker 2>you have to do is be accepted by the chief,

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<v Speaker 2>whether we're welcome or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I ask, did anyone not get welcome? Was he like,

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<v Speaker 1>actually not today, Frank us as.

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<v Speaker 2>A group, thankfully. But anyway, we all sit down and

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<v Speaker 2>then the kids sit next to me and out of

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<v Speaker 2>the bush.

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<v Speaker 1>And you obviously got accepted by the chief.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me get there. Sorry, I apologize to stop interrupting

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<v Speaker 2>my story. Now we all sit down and out jumps

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<v Speaker 2>the chief from the bush and the kids just go.

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<v Speaker 2>He's wielding a big fucking stick and it's like all

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<v Speaker 2>over us, and then someone's got the leader of our

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<v Speaker 2>group has to go. We come in peace, like we

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<v Speaker 2>just want to learn, and he it's exception.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's kind of out of the Show's got you.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the theater.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the theater. Anyway, that they're going through the different

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<v Speaker 2>ways that they build housing and stuff, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all pretty like straightforward. The kids are actually at

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<v Speaker 2>this point scared for their lives, so they're quite still.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I can imagine Oscar gets freaked out by a cat,

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<v Speaker 1>so I can only imagine what he was like with

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<v Speaker 1>the chief of a Vanuatu tribe.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, he definitely calmed down. And then we move on

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<v Speaker 2>to the next station, which is how they hunt and

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<v Speaker 2>gather and the different foods that are grown and what

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<v Speaker 2>they do with it, how they cook and blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 2>But before we left the ship, we were low on snacks,

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<v Speaker 2>so I went and got some snacks from the boat

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<v Speaker 2>convenience store. Anyway, we're sitting there, we're sitting there listening

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<v Speaker 2>to how they scrounged for food and Macon and Oscar

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<v Speaker 2>they're like, I'm hungry. So we're sitting there watching these

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<v Speaker 2>little kids and these elders with their tree roots and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>And you look over and my kids are eating aureos

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, to averyone, I'm like, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck's going on here? Anyway, they've gone through the

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<v Speaker 2>oreos and we're still sitting there, and then we're into

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<v Speaker 2>the twisties. The kids are sitting there and then Macy

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<v Speaker 2>starts going prove LIGI to white folks. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids are like, I'm so hungry, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>And they're sitting there and Macy's like walking around like

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<v Speaker 2>just just completely unaware, completely oblivious to the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>these kids are trying to eat tree roots and like

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<v Speaker 2>leaves and they're like spinach. So there's that. That's the first.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a great sign. They're obviously not paying attention

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<v Speaker 2>anymore whatsoever. They're in the dirt, they're chasing the chickens around.

0:11:46.600 --> 0:11:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Which is kind of nice.

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<v Speaker 2>They were just caught. They were just running a mark and.

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<v Speaker 1>They were ores and twisters in hand.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And then we move on

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<v Speaker 2>to the weapons. So you go on to like the warriors,

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<v Speaker 2>tribesmen and what you know, they used to fight for

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<v Speaker 2>their land and blah blah blah. And they're showing the

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<v Speaker 2>different types of weapons and Macy's there going watch TV.

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<v Speaker 2>She's having a meltdown because she wants to watch TV.

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<v Speaker 2>And we're on this island with no power, nothing, running around,

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<v Speaker 2>chickens running around, this guy wielding an axe and he's

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, watch TV. I want to watch TV. And

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<v Speaker 2>like everyone's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Stop immersing these kids in an amazing culture.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. We eventually were like this relaxed, like we

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<v Speaker 2>got her back attention when the more warriors came outside,

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<v Speaker 2>yet like a little bit more entertained. But they got

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit heavy because they were talking about in

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<v Speaker 2>the older days when what they used to do and

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<v Speaker 2>they used to go they used to fight a lot

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<v Speaker 2>for land, but with warriors, like obviously you know they

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<v Speaker 2>have wives and or whatever. But the only way that

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<v Speaker 2>really another tribe could obtain that land is the blood

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<v Speaker 2>spill of a woman. So they started to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the warriors and go to war for their land. But

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<v Speaker 2>if your husband died, okay, then your tribe, not the

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<v Speaker 2>other tribe, would actually kill the wife. Oh god, but

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<v Speaker 2>then they went on to graphically show which is super

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<v Speaker 2>interesting for an adult for.

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<v Speaker 1>A four year old.

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<v Speaker 2>We're midway through them trying to explain how they killed

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<v Speaker 2>the woman and Macy chokes on a twisty and she's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like and they're like, yeah, just like.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason the reason they do that is so

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<v Speaker 2>that they spill the blood not the rival tribe, so

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<v Speaker 2>they can't actually claim that land, but they graphically did it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Macy's in the corner just like anyway, then

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<v Speaker 2>they started to do they started to do their traditional

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<v Speaker 2>song and dance, which really got Mazie up a gun

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<v Speaker 2>because they were doing it and I missed filming it.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish i'd fucking god, I'm so sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>She was like dead body.

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<v Speaker 2>Ever, they're like doing like what they do after they

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<v Speaker 2>kill the woman. Anyway, the cultural tour trip with the.

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<v Speaker 1>Many kids on that trip or.

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<v Speaker 2>None, this is mine. Anyway, that finished up, which it

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<v Speaker 2>was really informant. I actually had a really good time

0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:27.520
<v Speaker 2>and like we were walking back out and which was

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<v Speaker 2>a really cool part. This is a really cool part

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<v Speaker 2>and the kids really love this part because the school,

0:14:32.240 --> 0:14:34.480
<v Speaker 2>the little kids school was at lunch and they were

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<v Speaker 2>all out on the oval, playing with the balls and

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<v Speaker 2>soccer and stuff. So me and Oscar and Mazie are

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<v Speaker 2>running around with these kids and like they were these

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<v Speaker 2>kids were I was kicking the ball really high in

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<v Speaker 2>the air and they're like whoa. And Oscar was just

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<v Speaker 2>like fucking loving it, like running around with all these kids.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was like, you know, a nice little end

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<v Speaker 2>to that little cultural tour because the rest of it

0:14:56.200 --> 0:14:58.640
<v Speaker 2>was completely wasted on them. They were just paying no

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<v Speaker 2>attention to how lucky they've got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I do think, and especially now because there's

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<v Speaker 1>so many people over in Europe, for example, with young kids.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, do you think these kids will remember any

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<v Speaker 1>of it? Do you think?

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<v Speaker 2>I no, do you know? I think maybe at Oscar's

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<v Speaker 2>age he might little snippet if he's yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 2>because this is now to when we were kids, things

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<v Speaker 2>are way more documented now, totally like phones, bang bang

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<v Speaker 2>bang bank bank. You could probably jog that memory over

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<v Speaker 2>the next ten years and keep it and.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll be nice.

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<v Speaker 2>That will be nice. It would be a nice moment

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<v Speaker 2>for here. He was frothing on these kids, like kicking

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<v Speaker 2>a ball around.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad be a hero.

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<v Speaker 2>I was a hero to these kids. They now have

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<v Speaker 2>a statue of me.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a great boot on you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. They have a statue.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you tell them you're Waally Lewis.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm professional, definitely not. But that was a good part

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<v Speaker 2>of it, yeah, But the rest of it was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh God, why did I take these kids on the

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<v Speaker 2>culture because I think I had expectation and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to get these kids to appreciate what they have.

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<v Speaker 2>Didn't work at all, but you know, maybe down the

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<v Speaker 2>track I'll try again. But anyway, we get back to

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<v Speaker 2>the boat and it was that night actually we had

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<v Speaker 2>a bit of a scare just to change the mood

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. Right now, As you know, Oscar has

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<v Speaker 2>before had croup. Yeah, he had a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>a cough like later on at night, and well that

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<v Speaker 2>fuck like a bit of cough medicine or whatever to

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<v Speaker 2>try and.

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<v Speaker 1>For anyone who doesn't know what creep is, ash take

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<v Speaker 1>it away.

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<v Speaker 2>Explain not a doctor essentially is it. Yeah, but it

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<v Speaker 2>restricts the airway. So three o'clock in the morning. At

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<v Speaker 2>three o'clock in the morning, Oscar starts to suffocate and

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<v Speaker 2>he cannot breathe whatsoever. There's nothing you can really do

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<v Speaker 2>other than they can give you us some steroids in hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm on a cruise op in the middle of

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<v Speaker 2>the ocean. They do have the facilities, yeah, but we

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<v Speaker 2>were like, the other thing you can do is steam

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<v Speaker 2>really helps. So at three point thirty in the morning,

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar has stopped breathing essentially, and it was really scary.

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<v Speaker 2>This was the scariest one we've had. We've had it before.

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<v Speaker 2>He's getting worked up, April's getting worked up, Macy's up

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Now I'm trying to just keep everyone calm

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<v Speaker 2>because them being getting worked up, he's not helping him

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<v Speaker 2>trying to breathe. So I've kicked April out of the

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<v Speaker 2>bathroom and I just get out, shut the door with

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<v Speaker 2>Oscar in there, turn the shower on as full ball

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<v Speaker 2>hot as we can to steam it.

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<v Speaker 1>They say steam's good for.

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<v Speaker 2>The thirty minutes we sat in therefore, and eventually got

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<v Speaker 2>him to be able to breathe properly.

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<v Speaker 1>And you came out looking quite trum as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I've jacked Reddit, but it was like the worst

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<v Speaker 2>place you could possibly yeah, because it's like I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew they have a medical.

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<v Speaker 1>Centergyicol, did you.

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<v Speaker 2>No, do you know what? I felt like I had

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<v Speaker 2>it under control, I felt, I said, once I kicked

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<v Speaker 2>April out, and I was like to Oscar, you need

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<v Speaker 2>to concentrate on me very closely. You're working up. Let's

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<v Speaker 2>just start with some breaths because he's like he's only skinny,

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<v Speaker 2>sucking his whole like doing his absolute best to try

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<v Speaker 2>and breathe. And then eventually you can sort of hear

0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.919
<v Speaker 2>him being able to breathe a bit more. But it

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<v Speaker 2>was a real mission to get me to stop and

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<v Speaker 2>be like, hey, bring him back to me every time,

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<v Speaker 2>because he was like gett into his head, like he's

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<v Speaker 2>not getting any better. But this was, Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 2>definitely the scariest one I've had where I thought he

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<v Speaker 2>was going to die at one point, and like, obviously

0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:36.240
<v Speaker 2>we're both pretty triggered. And like the morning when like

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<v Speaker 2>we managed to get him breathing again and then we

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<v Speaker 2>sort of sat with him for a few hours. We

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<v Speaker 2>actually all fell asleep again, thank god, and then woke

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<v Speaker 2>up and I think April and I like sort of

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<v Speaker 2>debriefed on him. We're like, fuck, both a little bit

0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:54.399
<v Speaker 2>triggered by it. Yeah, and like we thought like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's not a whole lot you can do until they

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<v Speaker 2>grow out of it, apparently, but that sort of bit,

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<v Speaker 2>it took a bit of a turn. Did the trip

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<v Speaker 2>with a few days to go, got a roller coaster.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a roller coaster, yeah yeah. And then he

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<v Speaker 2>still had a bit of a nasty cough the next day,

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<v Speaker 2>so he just laid really low in the cabin because

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<v Speaker 2>you don't want to be walking around a cruise ship

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<v Speaker 2>with your kid who sounds like a dog barking. It

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<v Speaker 2>was really like ooh ooh sort of bar And then

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<v Speaker 2>that was the third last night, and then on the

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<v Speaker 2>last night, just to change gears again. Going on the

0:19:28.160 --> 0:19:30.160
<v Speaker 2>last night, I had to get content, so I left

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<v Speaker 2>the room when everyone went to bed, April was reading.

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<v Speaker 2>I get a call from April and she goes Macy

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<v Speaker 2>was coffee and I was like, oh fucking here we

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<v Speaker 2>go again. She's no, no, no, she's coughed so much she's

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<v Speaker 2>spewed up onto oscar. He hasn't woken up.

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<v Speaker 1>She just copped it.

0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:50.280
<v Speaker 2>He's just copped a barrage of spew off. Anyway, I

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<v Speaker 2>get back to the room and April's like trying to

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<v Speaker 2>strip Oscar off. He like, she wake him up, didn't

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<v Speaker 2>wake him up, stripped him off without waking up, and

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<v Speaker 2>put a T shirt on him. I have cleaned up

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<v Speaker 2>what spew I can and washed it away, and Macy's

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<v Speaker 2>just like and she's gone back to sleep. And the

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<v Speaker 2>next morning, like, Oscar hasn't noticed.

0:20:09.280 --> 0:20:11.000
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, why am I wearing this outfit?

0:20:11.040 --> 0:20:13.240
<v Speaker 2>He was like, why am I wearing a T shirt?

0:20:13.320 --> 0:20:15.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, who's going to tell him? And it was like, don't,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just not do so he still doesn't know what's

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<v Speaker 2>actually happened. He just thought he was really, really sweaty.

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<v Speaker 1>What a beautiful trip.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a lovely trip. And then we got off

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<v Speaker 2>and here I am, oh no, we got off and

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<v Speaker 2>Dad ended up in hospital because he has the moon.

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<v Speaker 1>Shouldn't laugh.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, a few days with a trip to go, Dad disappears.

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<v Speaker 1>Dad was like, I need some attention.

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<v Speaker 2>Dad's got influenza and he's got pneumonia and he gets

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<v Speaker 2>wheelchaired off the ship and straight into hospital. How is

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<v Speaker 2>he doing now he's back home, now he's good. Fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, you've experienced it was a huge trip. Technical emergencies,

0:20:51.760 --> 0:20:54.560
<v Speaker 1>cultural experiences. That's what it's all.

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<v Speaker 2>About exactly right the pilots of the trip where Macey

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<v Speaker 2>eating oreos while these kids were trying now at a

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<v Speaker 2>tree route and then also choking on a twisty, or

0:21:03.880 --> 0:21:07.080
<v Speaker 2>they're trying to perform how to Kill a Woman.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're taking photos and videos. This is great.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, yeah, I've got some videos of some stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not doesn't really translate into I love it

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<v Speaker 2>and I just want to go. I haven't missed anything here.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, sorry, you got one minute to tell the story.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go back to just really quick on

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<v Speaker 2>this whole cultural tour. Okay, I got on the tender

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the cultural tour and I had an

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<v Speaker 2>itchy anus the whole time. I just wanted to let

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<v Speaker 2>you know, thank you that anyways, always.

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<v Speaker 1>Good to get a little update on your.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like I was like a hemorrhoid or was it?

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<v Speaker 2>It was just itchy. But then I was like trying

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<v Speaker 2>to find little places where I could be like sneak

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<v Speaker 2>away your little itchin then I was trying to fart.

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<v Speaker 1>At me.

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<v Speaker 2>People position was the squat so I was indo squatting

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<v Speaker 2>the whole time.

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh, thank you for that last that's okay, beautiful point

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<v Speaker 1>to throw asking on the cake on a great trip.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a good trip, So thank you to Pino

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<v Speaker 2>for having me and my family. As always, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't wait for my trip October. Look out for anyone wondering,

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<v Speaker 1>we've actually got We've got everyone coming on our trip.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I've got Laura's mom, Laura's sister, my sister,

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<v Speaker 1>my mom. Everybody can't wait. I want to tell you

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<v Speaker 1>just quickly about an incident that happened with me ash

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<v Speaker 1>also a medical emergency. You could say with you, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I was there, Oh, you were there. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>kids were involved. Your kids don't do gymnastics, do they?

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<v Speaker 2>Nah? Nah, no, not yet anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>So Marley was super keen, like super keen shit because

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<v Speaker 1>my nieces and nephew's day went to gymnastics and you

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<v Speaker 1>know the girl they wear like a lethard. And Marley

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, it's got a sequence stitched

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<v Speaker 1>wet onto it.

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<v Speaker 2>We went past her the other day. We walk past it.

0:23:04.880 --> 0:23:06.800
<v Speaker 1>We walked past it on the City to serve and

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<v Speaker 1>Mary was like, that's why I do gymnastics. Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>it was great. You know, sometimes it's really it's a

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<v Speaker 1>battle to get the kids to do those activities. They're

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<v Speaker 1>keen to sign up, but when it's time to actually

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<v Speaker 1>like get in the car go there, they're like, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like school with the jiu jitsu, and the

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<v Speaker 2>guy was like, you come in here and you greet me,

0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:28.760
<v Speaker 2>and I was just like, I don't want you left.

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<v Speaker 1>So Marley took the gymnastics like a duck to water.

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<v Speaker 1>So we do that on Thursday afternoons. Issue was I've

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<v Speaker 1>got the kids on Thursdays, right, and so I'm like, well, amazed,

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<v Speaker 1>Well you can in that one afternoon session. There's multiple

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<v Speaker 1>age groups and there was one age group for Lola

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<v Speaker 1>as well, and I was like, great, I'll try and

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<v Speaker 1>convince Lola that she can do gymnastics and then the

0:23:53.359 --> 0:23:55.480
<v Speaker 1>girls do it together. Job done.

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:57.800
<v Speaker 2>She's got the perfect head size for flipping.

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<v Speaker 1>You leave her head out of this.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely counterwait.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem was though she was a bit too young.

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<v Speaker 1>You had to be of a certain age, and my

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<v Speaker 1>sister pre warmed me and she's like, don't even try.

0:24:10.920 --> 0:24:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Like if you say, hey, she's two months from being

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<v Speaker 1>old enough, don't even try. Like they won't accept challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>Accept it, and so I lied on the application form.

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<v Speaker 1>If they're listening, sorry it wasn't me. It was just

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<v Speaker 1>a joke. But Lola wasn't really that keen. And I

0:24:23.680 --> 0:24:26.840
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like, gymnastics is sick, yeah, you love it?

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:28.880
<v Speaker 1>And she was always like, I don't know about this.

0:24:29.400 --> 0:24:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Every week it's the same, she's like, just you know,

0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:36.960
<v Speaker 1>digging her heels and anyway, we're walking to gymnastics. Last week, gone,

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<v Speaker 1>let it out, let it out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gone. That's not just.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't fucking try and harder yarn from me. I can

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<v Speaker 1>see it. I'm sorry, I can see it. I know

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<v Speaker 1>you better than you know yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel it's rude, though. When it's not because of

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<v Speaker 2>the story.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine. I don't get hurt.

0:24:56.080 --> 0:25:00.000
<v Speaker 2>You get more hurt when I'm like, yeah, sorry anymore

0:25:00.119 --> 0:25:02.040
<v Speaker 2>when it comes, you know, please oh go this.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love that. So we're walking down to gymnastics.

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<v Speaker 2>You walk there from here.

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<v Speaker 1>So we parked the car, we walked down, walking down

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<v Speaker 1>the hill, two gymnastics from the car, and Lola bless

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<v Speaker 1>her cotton socks, takes a tumble.

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<v Speaker 2>No, also, you just said takes a tumble, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a gymnastic term.

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<v Speaker 1>Pardon the pun, gymnastics teacher is like ten points.

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<v Speaker 2>She's out the front. You're after the Olympics with ray gun.

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<v Speaker 1>The level too, and the cut on her knees is

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<v Speaker 1>enough to have her give the most blood curdling scream

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<v Speaker 1>you've ever heard.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you got it?

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 1>And I've sent it to your phone and she was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't walk, don it, I cannot walk the drama

0:25:51.880 --> 0:25:54.320
<v Speaker 1>and she looked at it and she was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>My god, oh yeah that's a video.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is if you are queasy, my guy. I just.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, she's really scraped up those knees. Do you reckon?

0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:13.880
<v Speaker 1>That's nothing, She's only little though nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought, she's definitely given it a good scrape. You

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<v Speaker 2>do you fall over on the concrete and scrape your knees,

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 2>poor little thing. It's not that bad. One of them

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<v Speaker 2>is worse than the other. But it was still so annoying.

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<v Speaker 1>Dude, like it's gravel rash A gray's knee is just

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<v Speaker 1>it absolutely fucking derails the whole day.

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<v Speaker 2>Does she do the thing now? When like after that

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.159
<v Speaker 2>she got in the bath just like it's stick.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't okay, wouldn't do gymnastics.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, she's got an injury.

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<v Speaker 1>That's nothing. I was like, hey, like, forget about that,

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<v Speaker 1>let's go and do some flipping. And she's like, she

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't walk. It's blood. She wouldn't walk. She wouldn't walk.

0:26:58.240 --> 0:27:02.760
<v Speaker 1>That didn't do gymnastics right, get home. She's like, I

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<v Speaker 1>can't eat dinner. I can't eat because of my injury.

0:27:06.400 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, you can eat dinner, and she's like,

0:27:08.040 --> 0:27:11.760
<v Speaker 1>I can't. I can't do it. I can't still won't walk,

0:27:11.800 --> 0:27:14.679
<v Speaker 1>won't get in the bath, won't even put pants on

0:27:14.720 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>because she doesn't want to have any fabric over the knee.

0:27:17.040 --> 0:27:22.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh it is painful. I feel your pain, but the

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 2>poor thing it probably hurts. At the time.

0:27:25.240 --> 0:27:27.600
<v Speaker 1>I gave her the sympathy. Yeah, okay, all right, well,

0:27:28.040 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 1>but something like that, you know you're in for like

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<v Speaker 1>two or three.

0:27:30.920 --> 0:27:32.440
<v Speaker 2>She has a band aid too, She get a bunch

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<v Speaker 2>of band aids.

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<v Speaker 1>She wouldn't take a band aid, not even a band aid.

0:27:35.320 --> 0:27:38.399
<v Speaker 1>The grays was too severe for a band aid with

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<v Speaker 1>a gravel round. And next week gymnastics, I'm like, there

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<v Speaker 1>got another fifty bar.

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<v Speaker 2>Take a different route, confuser.

0:27:48.440 --> 0:27:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how else I can get there.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me have a look at those knees again. I

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<v Speaker 2>just I'm getting a little bit of tram because I've

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.680
<v Speaker 2>had some pretty grays knees before, and it does hurt,

0:27:57.640 --> 0:28:01.800
<v Speaker 2>especially little. They've got such like new skin too, So

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 2>just like so delicate. Anyway, a little bit of blood.

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<v Speaker 1>So your kids are almost dying of oxygen starvation.

0:28:12.080 --> 0:28:16.160
<v Speaker 2>My kids, it's not a competition. I would give sympathy

0:28:16.200 --> 0:28:20.080
<v Speaker 2>to MACI fell over on the boat on the carpet,

0:28:20.160 --> 0:28:23.280
<v Speaker 2>got carpet burn, and then she did a similar thing

0:28:23.680 --> 0:28:27.719
<v Speaker 2>to that where she can't do anything because of this

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:32.439
<v Speaker 2>tiny bit of carpet burn. Couldn't shower, couldn't eat in

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:35.439
<v Speaker 2>the pool anyone, Oh the pool was fine, to go

0:28:35.480 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 2>on the pool, it's hot, I'm in and that then

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 2>like she'd be like see someone and they'd be like, oh,

0:28:42.600 --> 0:28:45.960
<v Speaker 2>hell like me. You don't even know this person.

0:28:46.400 --> 0:28:47.480
<v Speaker 1>It was like me.

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 2>The dramas. The dramas are just a simple force. So

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 2>wce she fall down the footpath or you pushed it in?

0:28:56.600 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 1>No, I think she does it on purpose. She's done

0:28:58.560 --> 0:28:59.760
<v Speaker 1>it like three times now.

0:29:00.120 --> 0:29:02.640
<v Speaker 2>Herself on the ground. Yeah, she's just like she doesn't

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 2>want to go that bad that she's willing to injure herself.

0:29:05.160 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure it's that's not the case.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's hope not, because it could. That could spiral because.

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<v Speaker 1>They have to wear crocs because it's easy to take

0:29:12.640 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>the shoes off and the crocs. The trip has bloody trip,

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 1>especially in winter. They're not acclimatized.

0:29:19.160 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 2>Exactly what Macie tripped over on the boat her crocks.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is April's fault. We're gonna throw April under

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<v Speaker 2>the bus. My wife is a typical wife. She likes

0:29:28.280 --> 0:29:31.480
<v Speaker 2>to pack weeks in advance. She likes to be so

0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 2>organized that she's packed these crocs that she thought the

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.920
<v Speaker 2>kids had grown into but hadn't yet. That's too big,

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:42.960
<v Speaker 2>huge fuck. I should have got some phones. The first

0:29:43.000 --> 0:29:44.560
<v Speaker 2>time I saw the kids walk out of the cabin

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:46.080
<v Speaker 2>and I looked down and I was like, what the

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:49.360
<v Speaker 2>hell was Well, the kids were in fucking flippers. They're huge.

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:54.040
<v Speaker 2>So everywhere Macie went she tripped over, tripped over here,

0:29:54.080 --> 0:29:56.120
<v Speaker 2>tripped over, and then she's tripped over and got herself

0:29:56.120 --> 0:30:00.720
<v Speaker 2>a nice little carpet burn. But crocs trip hazard. I

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:02.320
<v Speaker 2>don't even know where mine are that you gave me

0:30:02.400 --> 0:30:04.080
<v Speaker 2>do you know why? Because I don't want a trip?

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 2>Should we do some lies?

0:30:08.440 --> 0:30:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Please tell me loud.

0:30:11.160 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 2>Tell me, Matt. This is the segment that we ask

0:30:20.320 --> 0:30:25.720
<v Speaker 2>our lovely, dedicated, doting listeners to send in the little

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:26.800
<v Speaker 2>lies they tell their.

0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:28.920
<v Speaker 1>Kids to make parenting just a little bit of it.

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:31.719
<v Speaker 2>And my mom said to me, don't threaten all light

0:30:31.760 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 2>of the kids unless you can follow through. And remember

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:35.800
<v Speaker 2>I was telling you the story last week how I

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:39.320
<v Speaker 2>threw the car out the window. I can follow through, baby,

0:30:39.400 --> 0:30:42.160
<v Speaker 2>don't you worry. So there's a couple that we used

0:30:42.200 --> 0:30:48.520
<v Speaker 2>on this cruise ship that were very very very very useful.

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 2>So I'm going to run you through those two and

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 2>if you've got some that you've been from listeners, I'll

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.200
<v Speaker 2>give you my two first and then you can give

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:57.320
<v Speaker 2>me what you've got. Sorry to explain that to you

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:58.000
<v Speaker 2>three or four times.

0:30:58.040 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, we run this segment every single week, so normally.

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 2>You get it. You got it good.

0:31:02.720 --> 0:31:06.640
<v Speaker 1>You're like we talking to the microphone.

0:31:06.160 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Mike grazes my knee, and now I can't tell you

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 2>my lives. The first one is I used really really look.

0:31:15.800 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 2>This one got my mom offside because she was like,

0:31:18.640 --> 0:31:22.880
<v Speaker 2>don't say that to them. I would essentially say anytime

0:31:22.920 --> 0:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>they would do anything that they were like being naughty

0:31:26.560 --> 0:31:28.440
<v Speaker 2>or wouldn't, I'd be like, get in the shower or

0:31:28.840 --> 0:31:30.440
<v Speaker 2>come on, get your shoes on, and be like, right,

0:31:30.680 --> 0:31:33.240
<v Speaker 2>you're going overboard. That usually got the results.

0:31:33.680 --> 0:31:36.480
<v Speaker 1>Actually I did see April sent me a video you

0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.680
<v Speaker 1>were dangling oscar off the side.

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Of the for Michael Dinner Michael Jackson's Start. No, that

0:31:45.080 --> 0:31:46.320
<v Speaker 2>was one of them that we used a lot.

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Did it work?

0:31:47.320 --> 0:31:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Yeah, yeah, because they're so gullible. I even picked

0:31:51.120 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 2>one of them up once. No, but my mum.

0:31:55.320 --> 0:31:58.080
<v Speaker 1>Really at the time whereabouts on the boat in a restaurant.

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 2>April had a really good one on the last night

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:08.360
<v Speaker 2>because for some reason my kids don't. They don't like potato.

0:32:09.360 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Mine don't either, Yeah, especially like mashappies, sure mashed, No

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:13.280
<v Speaker 1>time for that.

0:32:13.480 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 2>No time for mash. So April had a good one

0:32:15.840 --> 0:32:21.720
<v Speaker 2>saying that mashed potato is just warm ice cream.

0:32:21.880 --> 0:32:23.600
<v Speaker 1>That is brilliant. Did it work?

0:32:23.720 --> 0:32:28.360
<v Speaker 2>No, but I thought that was she whipped that out

0:32:28.360 --> 0:32:29.800
<v Speaker 2>on the last I was like, where did you get

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 2>that from? She was like, just come, just came to me.

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 1>It's very clever.

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:35.200
<v Speaker 2>I was like, that's good, So actually try it with

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>the girls next time. Yeah, next time, you got mash. Like,

0:32:38.000 --> 0:32:40.040
<v Speaker 2>if you're out to dinner and there's some mash.

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>Mash, I'd say would be one of the most hated dish.

0:32:42.800 --> 0:32:44.000
<v Speaker 2>It's delicious.

0:32:44.400 --> 0:32:45.600
<v Speaker 1>They just don't like it's a.

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Potato salt butter, bitter milk, bit of cream. Even Yeah, kids,

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:53.920
<v Speaker 2>that know how good that. You know I'm gonna do this.

0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:56.120
<v Speaker 2>Get a big bowl mash and just eat that. Do

0:32:56.240 --> 0:32:57.840
<v Speaker 2>you had that instant mash stuff?

0:32:58.040 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Beautiful? Oh heaven, heaven.

0:33:01.200 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 2>I stand with you, mash. They're my cruise ship lines,

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:07.280
<v Speaker 2>so feel free listeners to use those. I would say,

0:33:07.520 --> 0:33:10.760
<v Speaker 2>don't threaten to throw your kids overboard when there's a

0:33:11.240 --> 0:33:12.480
<v Speaker 2>crew member around.

0:33:12.800 --> 0:33:14.760
<v Speaker 1>No, I keep that underwrapp.

0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 2>I would keep that like more in the privacy of

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:19.960
<v Speaker 2>your own cabin. Yes, not at a restaurant because it

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 2>scared them. If anything, I.

0:33:21.280 --> 0:33:24.240
<v Speaker 1>Mean it's giving them some like long term trauma.

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 2>Also did the thing because all the railings on the outside,

0:33:26.760 --> 0:33:28.280
<v Speaker 2>like at the top of the deck, it's all glass

0:33:28.280 --> 0:33:29.400
<v Speaker 2>so you can see out. You want to be able

0:33:29.400 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 2>to see, and the kids are like looking out. I

0:33:31.280 --> 0:33:35.480
<v Speaker 2>do that thing when you go kill them. I'm a

0:33:35.600 --> 0:33:36.200
<v Speaker 2>terrible dad.

0:33:36.680 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>This one, your word's not mine. This one is in

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:43.400
<v Speaker 1>the Facebook group ash, which is just popping off. Yes, Jesus,

0:33:43.520 --> 0:33:46.479
<v Speaker 1>the bands, the humor, the fun that we have in

0:33:46.480 --> 0:33:50.880
<v Speaker 1>that Facebook group. Yeah, it's unbelievable. If anyone's not a member,

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 1>go and join. This one is from Jessmine Jesuit jezz

0:33:55.880 --> 0:34:02.000
<v Speaker 1>No I thought was Jasmine Jasmine Jessemine Jasamine almonds almond as.

0:34:02.000 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>She says, I don't know if I'm proud of this

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:07.640
<v Speaker 1>or not. Dot dot dot. My kids are aged twelve,

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:10.319
<v Speaker 1>ten and eight and they keep eating in their room,

0:34:10.480 --> 0:34:13.799
<v Speaker 1>leaving cups and plates, et cetera, and I'm so over

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>telling them not to. I saw this on Facebook and

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was worth to try. I got some

0:34:19.440 --> 0:34:22.360
<v Speaker 1>brown rice from the shops and I sprinkled it in

0:34:22.480 --> 0:34:25.560
<v Speaker 1>their rooms and they now think that mice have been

0:34:25.600 --> 0:34:28.800
<v Speaker 1>there who are attracted to the food. Oh so, my

0:34:28.920 --> 0:34:31.200
<v Speaker 1>parents live in a granny flat on the property, So

0:34:31.320 --> 0:34:33.960
<v Speaker 1>now the kids are all down there, scared of the

0:34:34.040 --> 0:34:38.080
<v Speaker 1>mice outbrak and claim they are sleeping in there tonight Lowell,

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>She says, I'll tell them the truth when they're older,

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>when they've learned. And there's a couple of photos here.

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.880
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty good. I like that, a couple of photo references.

0:34:48.960 --> 0:34:50.600
<v Speaker 1>But it does actually look like mice poop.

0:34:50.640 --> 0:34:53.800
<v Speaker 2>It does it? Really does it. That's genius.

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 1>I love.

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 2>They put it on hisse collectible cards near the PlayStation,

0:34:57.480 --> 0:34:58.399
<v Speaker 2>all the things they love.

0:34:59.480 --> 0:35:00.839
<v Speaker 1>That's that's a great lie.

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:01.640
<v Speaker 2>That is good.

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:02.839
<v Speaker 1>It's a very good lie.

0:35:03.520 --> 0:35:06.560
<v Speaker 2>That's not brown rice though, just to that's that purple

0:35:06.640 --> 0:35:07.919
<v Speaker 2>black rice. That's black rice.

0:35:08.680 --> 0:35:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Looks delicious.

0:35:11.640 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 2>That's good.

0:35:12.200 --> 0:35:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Another one asked, this one is a classic. This one

0:35:14.440 --> 0:35:18.239
<v Speaker 1>is a classic. So recently we were at Westfield when

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I junction and outside one of the stores there's a

0:35:21.920 --> 0:35:24.879
<v Speaker 1>few like three is a cluster of those little toy

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.560
<v Speaker 1>airplane cars that you put the kids in. You put

0:35:27.640 --> 0:35:33.480
<v Speaker 1>in a few bucks and then it got seconds. They

0:35:33.560 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 1>look very tired, very tired. Kids love it. Kids love it.

0:35:37.960 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>We went there, kids were like, we would to have

0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:43.480
<v Speaker 1>a go a nana. My mom was saying, look, unfortunately

0:35:43.600 --> 0:35:46.759
<v Speaker 1>these ones are all broken. But what we can do,

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:48.520
<v Speaker 1>but the time we're on the phone, you guys can

0:35:48.640 --> 0:35:51.560
<v Speaker 1>have a minute each in each one. And they were

0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:53.759
<v Speaker 1>sitting in there and they're like, this is kind of fun,

0:35:53.840 --> 0:35:57.239
<v Speaker 1>I guess. And then as we were walking away, then

0:35:57.280 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>another parent went in there threw some money in things like.

0:36:03.080 --> 0:36:08.840
<v Speaker 2>Busted and the kids are like, we want to go on.

0:36:09.120 --> 0:36:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, can we just collectively parents, can we just

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>all agree never to put any amount of money in

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:16.800
<v Speaker 1>those anything?

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Ever if there's another family, If you turn up and

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:23.040
<v Speaker 2>there's another family in it, and they're all pretending it

0:36:23.080 --> 0:36:27.680
<v Speaker 2>doesn't work, read the room. Just know, just know that

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:34.240
<v Speaker 2>watch this Timmy Busted.

0:36:34.560 --> 0:36:37.360
<v Speaker 1>It is now time for listener questions and ask the

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:40.839
<v Speaker 1>way this segment works, just so you know, people who

0:36:40.960 --> 0:36:43.920
<v Speaker 1>listen to the podcast listening right in with a question

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:48.279
<v Speaker 1>that in relation to parenting, which we then ask each

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 1>other and give it. Would you like to go first?

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:53.560
<v Speaker 1>And I go first.

0:36:54.200 --> 0:36:56.360
<v Speaker 2>I got a really quick one for you, please that

0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:01.239
<v Speaker 2>it comes off the back of the sleeping arrangement on

0:37:01.320 --> 0:37:06.040
<v Speaker 2>the cruise, because we had bunk beds, right, so there

0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:08.560
<v Speaker 2>was a double bunk bottom and top so open, and

0:37:08.600 --> 0:37:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I slept on top and Macey and Oscars slept on

0:37:11.440 --> 0:37:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the bottom. Now, Mace, you just had in the room.

0:37:14.040 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>You had just bunk beds. Yeah, yeah, right, Okay, that's

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 1>pretty fun.

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.759
<v Speaker 2>Kids enjoyed it, but Macy's in a cot still at home.

0:37:20.920 --> 0:37:23.760
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask when you did the the horizontal tango

0:37:24.280 --> 0:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>sex top bunk or bottom bunk balcony.

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 2>It was definitely in the bottom bunk, like having sex

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.680
<v Speaker 2>in a cubby house. It was my child dream. So,

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 2>as you know, Macy's still in a cot because she's

0:37:38.920 --> 0:37:41.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, quite young, not quite young, she's like two,

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:46.239
<v Speaker 2>but she's obviously enjoyed being out of that cot. So

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:51.479
<v Speaker 2>and the question goes, because you've got slightly older child

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:56.279
<v Speaker 2>than me, what age do I convert her out of

0:37:56.400 --> 0:37:59.600
<v Speaker 2>a I can't get out of this bed situation. To

0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 2>that out she can get out and roam. Like I said,

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 2>you've got two, both can get out now in rome

0:38:05.200 --> 0:38:06.920
<v Speaker 2>and coming like Oscar already comes into my bed in

0:38:06.960 --> 0:38:08.600
<v Speaker 2>the middle of I don't think two people kicking me

0:38:08.640 --> 0:38:10.239
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the night. What do you think

0:38:10.800 --> 0:38:12.000
<v Speaker 2>is an appropriate age?

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I think we took Marley out of a cot pretty

0:38:14.800 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 1>early because she was just so mobile, like spider Monkey

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 1>she did. She would climb like nothing else. So even

0:38:22.480 --> 0:38:25.719
<v Speaker 1>like it's ideal to have your kid caged in, right,

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:28.399
<v Speaker 1>you want to treat them like a wild animal. Oh yeah,

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 1>the less mobile they are the better because, especially in

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.520
<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night, sometimes they wake up they

0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:36.600
<v Speaker 1>know they can't go anywhere, so they go back to sleep.

0:38:36.880 --> 0:38:38.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, they're trapped.

0:38:38.840 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So we actually put her. We gave her a

0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:46.040
<v Speaker 1>dog collar, and we leashed her to the wall.

0:38:46.360 --> 0:38:46.760
<v Speaker 2>Perfect.

0:38:47.480 --> 0:38:48.760
<v Speaker 1>It worked out brilliantly.

0:38:48.920 --> 0:38:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Can I just write this down so I don't forget.

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:54.520
<v Speaker 1>Please everyone listening, please take my testimony. So we put

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:57.600
<v Speaker 1>Mali in he bed pretty early and it wasn't. It's

0:38:57.640 --> 0:38:59.360
<v Speaker 1>actually like we thought it was going to be a nightmare.

0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:01.240
<v Speaker 1>We were like, oh shit, this is going to derail

0:39:01.360 --> 0:39:03.800
<v Speaker 1>bedtimes like nothing else. And it was fine.

0:39:04.400 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 2>I think like with Oscar because we did it. I

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:08.960
<v Speaker 2>think it's about three years old, which Macey's coming up

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 2>to it. But with Oscar he was so vocal all

0:39:11.560 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 2>the time that you could have a proper conversation with him.

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm not saying Macy's not as smart as Oscar,

0:39:17.960 --> 0:39:19.759
<v Speaker 2>but like I would be like, you want a big

0:39:19.800 --> 0:39:22.319
<v Speaker 2>boy bed and really encourage the big boy bed. Yes

0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:24.279
<v Speaker 2>that he was like, this is my big boy bed.

0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm never leaving it. But with Macey, she doesn't listen

0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:30.360
<v Speaker 2>to anyone. She's like, fuck this I'm out here or

0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 2>even on the cruise, I like woke up. I'm like,

0:39:32.760 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 2>where's Macy. Look over and she's coloring in at three

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 2>point thirty in the morning.

0:39:38.040 --> 0:39:40.799
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, yeah, it's so annoying when

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:42.080
<v Speaker 1>they wake up in the middle of the night and

0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.920
<v Speaker 1>they're like, well, I guess it's time to get up

0:39:44.960 --> 0:39:47.879
<v Speaker 1>and start the day early bird gets the work.

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.480
<v Speaker 2>But now she's refusing her sleep suit. She doesn't want

0:39:50.480 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 2>to sleep in a cot at home, so it's like,

0:39:52.800 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 2>what's the plan? So that's why it's like, that's why musk.

0:39:56.320 --> 0:39:57.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the only thing with Lola when we

0:39:58.000 --> 0:40:00.719
<v Speaker 1>took her out of the cot just meant that she

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>was in wake up in the middle of the night.

0:40:02.080 --> 0:40:04.320
<v Speaker 1>We would then bring her into our bed, which wouldn't

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:05.680
<v Speaker 1>mind which we're into.

0:40:06.000 --> 0:40:07.360
<v Speaker 2>It's just your bed's tiny.

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 1>How dare you talk about like that in saying that

0:40:10.760 --> 0:40:14.120
<v Speaker 1>last night I woke up flanked by two children. Yeah,

0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 1>and Lola was like, I'm in the bunk bed she

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:17.520
<v Speaker 1>so she left us.

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 2>I've been sleeping in the completely separate room at Papa's

0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.120
<v Speaker 2>house and I've been in the door. It's a really

0:40:22.160 --> 0:40:24.320
<v Speaker 2>old house in door handles really high and if you notice.

0:40:24.080 --> 0:40:25.000
<v Speaker 1>That the kids can't get in.

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:27.920
<v Speaker 2>But also April's like in the middle of the night,

0:40:27.960 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 2>she'll walk up and open my door. So anyway, we

0:40:33.640 --> 0:40:34.000
<v Speaker 2>have had a.

0:40:34.000 --> 0:40:38.640
<v Speaker 1>Lot of questions ash about how to communicate a death

0:40:38.719 --> 0:40:42.080
<v Speaker 1>in the family to the kids. And you may, for

0:40:42.120 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>those of you who come from life on cut, you

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:47.160
<v Speaker 1>may have heard the news recently that Laura's stepdad, Lenny,

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:52.160
<v Speaker 1>absolute legend of a bloke Neil nicknamed Lennie, he passed away.

0:40:52.200 --> 0:40:56.080
<v Speaker 2>I was just like so confused, and I'm like, yeah, Lenny, he.

0:40:56.160 --> 0:40:59.439
<v Speaker 1>Passed away after a long battle with cancer, nine years

0:41:00.120 --> 0:41:03.359
<v Speaker 1>brought to the last breath and he's now passed away.

0:41:03.760 --> 0:41:08.600
<v Speaker 1>The kids absolutely love far. We've scorn far and we've

0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:11.760
<v Speaker 1>got the funeral coming up this weekend, and we wanted

0:41:11.800 --> 0:41:14.200
<v Speaker 1>to preempt We were thinking, do we bring the kids,

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.719
<v Speaker 1>do not bring the kids? But I think it's better

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 1>to evolve them. We were pretty up front with the

0:41:19.760 --> 0:41:21.880
<v Speaker 1>kids and we explained. We were kind of saying to

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:26.120
<v Speaker 1>them that Lenny's been unwell for a long time, so

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:28.880
<v Speaker 1>we were trying to just like we didn't want to

0:41:28.960 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 1>rip the rug from underneath the kids and just you know,

0:41:31.520 --> 0:41:36.160
<v Speaker 1>say hey, fars gone. Yeah, and we were so afraid

0:41:36.840 --> 0:41:39.719
<v Speaker 1>to tell them in fear of them having some kind

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.879
<v Speaker 1>of traumatic experiences. A few times with Laura's granddad, he's

0:41:42.920 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>passed away when the kids are really young, and sometimes

0:41:45.719 --> 0:41:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Marley will be at nighttime and she's like, I can't

0:41:48.440 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 1>I can't get the thought of granddad dying out of

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>my head.

0:41:51.680 --> 0:41:55.360
<v Speaker 2>And we're like, fuck, how do you you have mentioned that?

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:59.520
<v Speaker 2>Lowel O'Malley has talked about death a lot like Oscar's only.

0:41:59.560 --> 0:42:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Have you had Have you had anyone passed recently in

0:42:01.360 --> 0:42:01.760
<v Speaker 1>your family?

0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:06.399
<v Speaker 2>Oscar's had his great grandfather, my grandfather, Billy Wicks die

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:09.480
<v Speaker 2>when he's been alive a couple of years ago. Oscar

0:42:09.600 --> 0:42:12.680
<v Speaker 2>was much younger. But the funny thing is we didn't

0:42:12.680 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 2>really have to explain it to him because he was

0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:16.400
<v Speaker 2>quite young. But he was only at one word. But

0:42:16.440 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 2>he started calling his comfort that he sleeps with Billy.

0:42:20.200 --> 0:42:23.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh really literally the day he died, and he wouldn't

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 2>even know, which is random.

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:26.920
<v Speaker 1>How old was Oscar when that happened.

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I think it would have been like two, right, and

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 2>a bit like even now, there's and foes around and

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.399
<v Speaker 2>he's like, you know what happened, and we've just been like, oh,

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, that's Billy passed away because he's got the

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:39.399
<v Speaker 2>middle name as well, William is Oscar's middle name. Yeah,

0:42:39.440 --> 0:42:41.800
<v Speaker 2>I can't imagine that. Now. You got me thinking, like

0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 2>the conversation that if you know someone now died like

0:42:46.239 --> 0:42:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Oscar is so inquisitive, as is Mali there at that age,

0:42:50.040 --> 0:42:51.839
<v Speaker 2>and Lowell was sort of getting into that age too,

0:42:51.880 --> 0:42:56.080
<v Speaker 2>where they're like why everything is why. It's like, shit,

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:56.520
<v Speaker 2>I can't.

0:42:56.640 --> 0:42:58.279
<v Speaker 1>So it did help to say, like, well, you know,

0:42:58.920 --> 0:43:00.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, we've explained that he's been on well for

0:43:00.840 --> 0:43:02.560
<v Speaker 1>a while, and we're going to go, oh, yeah, yeah,

0:43:02.560 --> 0:43:04.400
<v Speaker 1>I understand that. Yeah. I think it did go over

0:43:04.480 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Lola's head, Like, you know, she's only three. She can't

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:11.760
<v Speaker 1>really understand the significance of death as you can appreciate

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 1>a three year old, but Marley really understands it. Dude.

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:18.560
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna sound really obvious, but it helps so much

0:43:18.719 --> 0:43:21.560
<v Speaker 1>telling her on a Saturday morning when we had the

0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:25.719
<v Speaker 1>entire day as a family together, because you know, we're like, oh,

0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:27.400
<v Speaker 1>can we tell her in the morning before daycare? But

0:43:27.520 --> 0:43:29.960
<v Speaker 1>then you know, the thought of then dropping that news

0:43:30.000 --> 0:43:31.440
<v Speaker 1>and her and then being away from.

0:43:31.440 --> 0:43:34.040
<v Speaker 2>You have a good day daycare, because she might not

0:43:34.239 --> 0:43:36.239
<v Speaker 2>process it for another hour or so and then be like,

0:43:36.520 --> 0:43:38.200
<v Speaker 2>I want to cuddle for mummy or daddy and make

0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.200
<v Speaker 2>sure even even if she's thinking empathetically, which she probably

0:43:41.320 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 2>is because she's already thinking about death, she'd be like,

0:43:43.120 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if mummy's okay, and if Mummy's not there

0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:47.879
<v Speaker 2>to give her a cuddle at least, like you've given

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:51.920
<v Speaker 2>her the day to kind of get used to the

0:43:52.040 --> 0:43:55.640
<v Speaker 2>thought that someone's not around anymore. Like I remember when

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 2>when Dad was going through that heart attack staff and

0:43:58.880 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 2>it was like he was here, and then I was

0:44:01.440 --> 0:44:03.160
<v Speaker 2>meant to see the kids a day after as well,

0:44:03.280 --> 0:44:05.600
<v Speaker 2>and they're like where is he and trying to explain

0:44:05.640 --> 0:44:09.320
<v Speaker 2>to them that he's really unwell, and like, you know,

0:44:09.520 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 2>also for like grandparents and stuff like that. When I

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:14.080
<v Speaker 2>spoke to Dad about that, Dad was like, I was scared,

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 2>but not for me the kids. I was scared for

0:44:16.760 --> 0:44:19.200
<v Speaker 2>my grandkids that I've just like built this bond with,

0:44:20.280 --> 0:44:23.319
<v Speaker 2>not me, but like the grand kids. So it's like, yeah,

0:44:23.320 --> 0:44:24.759
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if there's a I'm not going to

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:26.080
<v Speaker 2>sit here and say there's a right and the wrong

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<v Speaker 2>way to go about I think the way you've gone

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<v Speaker 2>about it is definitely but.

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<v Speaker 1>We found it having the open dialogue way easier, and

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<v Speaker 1>especially because there's been a lot of tears in the

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<v Speaker 1>household over the last week, lots of tears, and you

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<v Speaker 1>want the kids to understand what those tears are a

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<v Speaker 1>result of. You know, we can talk about it's okay

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<v Speaker 1>to be upset, sokay to be sad. So for us

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<v Speaker 1>being upfront with the kids and being honest with them,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been so much easier.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because like I said, I don't want to say

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<v Speaker 2>there's a right and the wrong way because some people,

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<v Speaker 2>even adults, process everything differently. So like for me, death

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<v Speaker 2>it's going to sound horrible, is not. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like my grandfather died. As much as I

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<v Speaker 2>miss him, I didn't cry. I don't have that. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just life really, but like and some adults are like that,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't know how I'm going to explain. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'll just try and figure out when that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>But if there's any parents out there who experienced it

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<v Speaker 1>communicated it in a way with the kids that's been

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<v Speaker 1>received really well, we would love to do your thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>Allow if there's an expert out there that's gone, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the best way to do it. But like everyone's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be different, right, Like I was just going to

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<v Speaker 2>be different to Marley. If I said to Oscar like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, blah blah blah, it has been really unwell

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<v Speaker 2>and unfortunately they passed away. I don't know how he would.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean, Marley's had really big emotions and there's

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<v Speaker 1>a little part of us where we're thinking, are those

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<v Speaker 1>big emotions right now results of the news that we

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<v Speaker 1>dropped in her last week? Not sure? Not sure? But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we got the funeral coming up in a couple of days, So.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to Yeah, I don't want to end

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<v Speaker 2>on that note, but I want to ask a question

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<v Speaker 2>as well. On top of that weekend funeral versus weekday.

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<v Speaker 1>Funeral, we're doing Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a Friday. I'm gonna say weekend funeral.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Friday funeral Hawaiian shirts. No way, that's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>cool Hawaiian shirt funeral.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I went to a friend of mine dad's funeral,

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<v Speaker 2>which his favorite color was red, so we all wore.

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<v Speaker 1>Red, all sexy. It was a funeral, so Lenny is

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<v Speaker 1>up there listening in. He was a big fan of

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<v Speaker 1>the show. Yeah so mate, Rest in peace.

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<v Speaker 2>Rest in peace, Lendie we yes, and I'm sorry for

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<v Speaker 2>you and your family to go through something like that.

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