Speaker 1: Asked the question everyone wants hands in. How was the
Speaker 1: flesh light still boxed up?
Speaker 2: My guy, it's a lie. It isn't a lie. I promise.
Speaker 2: I promise because I did have you on speaker phone
Speaker 2: when I said to April, guess what Maddie J got me?
Speaker 2: And she played it pretty cool like Q yeah.
Speaker 1: On the phone, she was like, oh, that's so thoughtful.
Speaker 1: She's like it's gonna be fun.
Speaker 2: And then she pokes her head back and shoes to
Speaker 2: let me catch you using that thing.
Speaker 1: Now, welcome back to two notting dads. I'm Mattie Jay
Speaker 1: and I'm Ash and this is a podcast all about
Speaker 1: parenting and flesh lights, the good, the bad, and the
Speaker 1: flesh light. If you've come wanting any type of flesh
Speaker 1: light advice, say because that is what.
Speaker 2: That is what we talk about. Now. We're talking about
Speaker 2: flesh lights and two flesh lighting dads and shit.
Speaker 1: That is like the two main topics of what we
Speaker 1: talk about. I can't tell if people enjoy the shit
Speaker 1: chat or if they're like, oh god, it's another.
Speaker 2: Someone was like, two grown men talking about shit is deplorable,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I have a laugh, cockhead.
Speaker 1: What else is there to talk about nothing.
Speaker 2: Kids, shit a lot, We shit a lot. Oh yeah
Speaker 2: that too. What's going on? What's happening? So what I what?
Speaker 2: I I what I miss?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: I feel like I see you every day now I
Speaker 2: got nothing to talk. Let's just see different hour.
Speaker 1: And we had what was it, ten days and not
Speaker 1: seeing each other.
Speaker 2: We did yes, which we get into we'll get into short.
Speaker 3: Both of us were aching aching for some company about
Speaker 3: aching and we're like, I did call you, I think
Speaker 3: like stay seventy and I was like, anyway, I'm going
Speaker 3: to go, and you were like, don't edge.
Speaker 2: Me like that. You ring me.
Speaker 1: You'd call me and you'd be like hey about hey,
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, I'm going to go, and I'm like
Speaker 1: such a tea god.
Speaker 2: I think I just wanted to win to you because
Speaker 2: we ran out of Nappy's on the ship and I
Speaker 2: just walked out fourteen sets of stairs and I was
Speaker 2: like so hungover to because I did carry the night before.
Speaker 2: And I was like, and You're like, don't dare ring
Speaker 2: me up and edge me over the phones.
Speaker 1: You call, I get comfy, I sit down, I strapped.
Speaker 2: Pull your dick out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I sit there. And then you're like I can't
Speaker 1: talk right now. I'm like, well, Jesus, I know what
Speaker 1: you're doing.
Speaker 2: We'll playing sorry.
Speaker 1: So we didn't talk about it last episode, but I
Speaker 1: do want to know how the cruise went. Because we
Speaker 1: went on a cruise for the first time together. You've
Speaker 1: now ditched me. I know.
Speaker 2: No, you you wanted to try and work more around Laura.
Speaker 2: As the doting husband that you are, you'll do so,
Speaker 2: don't you dare throw me under the bathroom because you
Speaker 2: were just doing something nice for you and your family.
Speaker 1: Because you were like, hey, I'm thinking about taking this
Speaker 1: two month cruise all throughout the Pacific, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know if Laura's schedule allows for that, and
Speaker 1: you're like, so.
Speaker 2: You are sorry. We wanted to do a longer one,
Speaker 2: like and something in the cold weather here but warm
Speaker 2: weather somewhere.
Speaker 1: Else, So sue me talk me through it.
Speaker 2: I did it with my family and my mom and
Speaker 2: my dad. And one thing I did realize I started
Speaker 2: doing early on was because my mom was there, and
Speaker 2: you probably do it with Laura too. When you're talking
Speaker 2: to your kids, you refer to each other as mummy
Speaker 2: and daddy. I started to do that with my mum.
Speaker 2: I just called her mummy. A few times.
Speaker 1: I started doing that as well, and I was like,
Speaker 1: ah fuck.
Speaker 2: And then of course my mom would not let me
Speaker 2: live it down every time. My mom should be like,
Speaker 2: that's mummy to you, you.
Speaker 1: Know, like posh English people say that.
Speaker 2: I like mummy, Mama, Papa, Mom, John Ty and mummy.
Speaker 1: I said it the other day in the kitchen. I
Speaker 1: was like, Mummy, what's the dinner. Laura was like, what
Speaker 1: the hell was that?
Speaker 2: And I was like, I mean early nothing.
Speaker 1: We got stake tonight or what.
Speaker 2: It was a really good trip was out to Vanawatu.
Speaker 1: Must be nice.
Speaker 2: It was must it was very nice. Bit bumping on
Speaker 2: the way out. But we left on the day that
Speaker 2: the fairies were all shut because the swell was so big.
Speaker 2: It was huge, it was massive, but we were because you.
Speaker 1: Have what's it called the departure party. No, it's not that, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a sail away.
Speaker 2: And it was. It was actually okay because can I.
Speaker 1: Just say, for those people who have not been fortunate
Speaker 1: enough to go on a cruise, at the moment you
Speaker 1: leave port, they have a sail away party. Just everyone
Speaker 1: gets really drunk on the deck.
Speaker 2: Pretty much, but like the good thing was a sail
Speaker 2: away takes place, you know when you're still in the
Speaker 2: harbor pretty much, which is not because you go past
Speaker 2: the bridge, the opera house, all the iconic Sydney Sydney
Speaker 2: things which you know, and then we got out. It
Speaker 2: was just a bit bumpy. Later on you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: like you're pissed. I was, but also you're definitely off
Speaker 2: bumping into the wa and you don't have your sea
Speaker 2: legs yet essentially. But yeah, it was a nice smooth
Speaker 2: trip up and then you get to you get to
Speaker 2: the island and which ones did We went to went
Speaker 2: to well, no, No. Three islands in Manawatu. I can't
Speaker 2: remember what it called. Port Villa was one mystery island
Speaker 2: and I can't love me. I can't remember the first one.
Speaker 2: Not critical, but the kids it's their second cruise this year,
Speaker 2: so they acclimatized really quickly. The Kids Club is amazing.
Speaker 2: If you've got kids and you want to ditchy kids
Speaker 2: for like a trip, that is the place because they
Speaker 2: they send you the every day, they send you the
Speaker 2: schedule or what's going on, and the kids are frothing.
Speaker 1: Do you remember we were on the last trip together,
Speaker 1: and the first morning this is day two. The line
Speaker 1: for kids clubs.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like that, yeah, because.
Speaker 1: Everybody was saying, this is not normally like this, but
Speaker 1: we Yeah, it was like an hour wait to drop
Speaker 1: your kids off. And I was like, oh god, I'm
Speaker 1: just not going to bother.
Speaker 2: We didn't bother, no, no. And it was only a
Speaker 2: short trip that one. We got there registered pretty early,
Speaker 2: pretty easy. It was actually very very easy compared to
Speaker 2: the last one, which is good. So they've obviously improved
Speaker 2: for that, so that's amazing. But we got to the
Speaker 2: islands and it was hot. The first time we got
Speaker 2: to It was kind of like being on a boat
Speaker 2: for a few days and then getting off and you
Speaker 2: pretty much walk straight into like a local market. It's
Speaker 2: just them trying to see their crap, you know, as
Speaker 2: they do what they sell a lot of, like sarongs
Speaker 2: and shit, did you buy anhym nah? That was like
Speaker 2: the first stop, which was it was a pretty average place.
Speaker 2: To be completely honest with you, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 2: It was nice. Like when he got round to like
Speaker 2: where the main city is on that was like on.
Speaker 1: Their harbor, not a big sarrong guy, not a big
Speaker 1: sarrong guy, So you were like, what else have you got?
Speaker 2: Like just laid on. Then we went to the next
Speaker 2: island next day and it was raining and we had
Speaker 2: a beach to a book. So that's no good either.
Speaker 2: Nice great, but we made the most of it anyway,
Speaker 2: Like Oscar run.
Speaker 1: That's the video of April pissing in the water.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was great. That was a highlight. That was good.
Speaker 2: And on that tour there was a little bit of
Speaker 2: like the tour guy was really informative of like what's around,
Speaker 2: what they do, what they grow, what they what do
Speaker 2: they they live coconuts and that, you know, the fruits
Speaker 2: that are in and the stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I please go on.
Speaker 2: No, But the third trip we did, which is Mystery Island,
Speaker 2: absolutely beautiful. It was pish, pish, picturesque. It was picturesque.
Speaker 2: It was like, this is a tropical island. It was beautiful.
Speaker 2: Any wrongs, yes, wrongs still the wrongs, that's right. It
Speaker 2: was the wrong weather. Yeah, but that day we had
Speaker 2: a modern cultural tour booked and it was like the
Speaker 2: nicest state. I was like, oh.
Speaker 1: Fuck fully, Like I just want to lay on the sand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what you can't tell. If you'd be a kind
Speaker 1: of some baking, relaxing kind of gun now you know,
Speaker 1: what do you like to do?
Speaker 2: Surf? If I if I had, if I didn't have
Speaker 2: a tour book, I would have tried to find someone
Speaker 2: to take me surfing somewhere, trying to find something. But
Speaker 2: we had the cultural tour as a group, all of us,
Speaker 2: my family and my parents lovely, and they take you
Speaker 2: across to this island of like there's three tribes. There's
Speaker 2: like a southern tribe and northern tribe and the central tribe.
Speaker 2: One of them is like French speaking because of the colonialism.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure the right word. Not sure. I'm not
Speaker 2: a history teacher. And then there's the north one, but
Speaker 2: the one they take you to the central one and
Speaker 2: it's a beautiful place to got the little kids, a
Speaker 2: little school, little church. I don't know if you've ever
Speaker 2: taken two small children on a cultural tour.
Speaker 1: I can't say I have. Actually, we were in Fiji
Speaker 1: a little while ago and they did after like an
Speaker 1: outdoor dinner followed by a show like but it was
Speaker 1: kind of entertaining. It was a bit scary, actually, the
Speaker 1: kids petrified because they came out and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: like with breathing fire.
Speaker 2: I don't know what I expected. I thought, I'll take
Speaker 2: the kids on a cultural tour. Maybe it'll snap some
Speaker 2: sense into these spoiled little kids. You know, we got there,
Speaker 2: we were like walking through and you go to like
Speaker 2: they take you up. There's like three stops on this tour.
Speaker 2: It's all walking, it's not far. And the first one
Speaker 2: is about you know, their housing, how they live, and
Speaker 2: then the food, how they forest, how they hunt, how
Speaker 2: they gather. And then there's the warrior side of thing
Speaker 2: where they back in the day when they had warriors
Speaker 2: and they help fighting, fighting for land and blah blah
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. So we enter and the first thing
Speaker 2: you have to do is be accepted by the chief,
Speaker 2: whether we're welcome or not.
Speaker 1: Can I ask, did anyone not get welcome? Was he like,
Speaker 1: actually not today, Frank us as.
Speaker 2: A group, thankfully. But anyway, we all sit down and
Speaker 2: then the kids sit next to me and out of
Speaker 2: the bush.
Speaker 1: And you obviously got accepted by the chief.
Speaker 2: Let me get there. Sorry, I apologize to stop interrupting
Speaker 2: my story. Now we all sit down and out jumps
Speaker 2: the chief from the bush and the kids just go.
Speaker 2: He's wielding a big fucking stick and it's like all
Speaker 2: over us, and then someone's got the leader of our
Speaker 2: group has to go. We come in peace, like we
Speaker 2: just want to learn, and he it's exception.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's kind of out of the Show's got you.
Speaker 1: It's the theater.
Speaker 2: It's the theater. Anyway, that they're going through the different
Speaker 2: ways that they build housing and stuff, and you know,
Speaker 2: that's all pretty like straightforward. The kids are actually at
Speaker 2: this point scared for their lives, so they're quite still.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can imagine Oscar gets freaked out by a cat,
Speaker 1: so I can only imagine what he was like with
Speaker 1: the chief of a Vanuatu tribe.
Speaker 2: Yes, he definitely calmed down. And then we move on
Speaker 2: to the next station, which is how they hunt and
Speaker 2: gather and the different foods that are grown and what
Speaker 2: they do with it, how they cook and blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: But before we left the ship, we were low on snacks,
Speaker 2: so I went and got some snacks from the boat
Speaker 2: convenience store. Anyway, we're sitting there, we're sitting there listening
Speaker 2: to how they scrounged for food and Macon and Oscar
Speaker 2: they're like, I'm hungry. So we're sitting there watching these
Speaker 2: little kids and these elders with their tree roots and stuff.
Speaker 2: And you look over and my kids are eating aureos
Speaker 2: and I was like, to averyone, I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: the fuck's going on here? Anyway, they've gone through the
Speaker 2: oreos and we're still sitting there, and then we're into
Speaker 2: the twisties. The kids are sitting there and then Macy
Speaker 2: starts going prove LIGI to white folks. I know.
Speaker 1: Kids are like, I'm so hungry, I know.
Speaker 2: And they're sitting there and Macy's like walking around like
Speaker 2: just just completely unaware, completely oblivious to the fact that
Speaker 2: these kids are trying to eat tree roots and like
Speaker 2: leaves and they're like spinach. So there's that. That's the first.
Speaker 2: This is a great sign. They're obviously not paying attention
Speaker 2: anymore whatsoever. They're in the dirt, they're chasing the chickens around.
Speaker 1: Which is kind of nice.
Speaker 2: They were just caught. They were just running a mark and.
Speaker 1: They were ores and twisters in hand.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. And then we move on
Speaker 2: to the weapons. So you go on to like the warriors,
Speaker 2: tribesmen and what you know, they used to fight for
Speaker 2: their land and blah blah blah. And they're showing the
Speaker 2: different types of weapons and Macy's there going watch TV.
Speaker 2: She's having a meltdown because she wants to watch TV.
Speaker 2: And we're on this island with no power, nothing, running around,
Speaker 2: chickens running around, this guy wielding an axe and he's
Speaker 2: She's like, watch TV. I want to watch TV. And
Speaker 2: like everyone's like.
Speaker 1: Stop immersing these kids in an amazing culture.
Speaker 2: I know. We eventually were like this relaxed, like we
Speaker 2: got her back attention when the more warriors came outside,
Speaker 2: yet like a little bit more entertained. But they got
Speaker 2: a little bit heavy because they were talking about in
Speaker 2: the older days when what they used to do and
Speaker 2: they used to go they used to fight a lot
Speaker 2: for land, but with warriors, like obviously you know they
Speaker 2: have wives and or whatever. But the only way that
Speaker 2: really another tribe could obtain that land is the blood
Speaker 2: spill of a woman. So they started to talk about
Speaker 2: the warriors and go to war for their land. But
Speaker 2: if your husband died, okay, then your tribe, not the
Speaker 2: other tribe, would actually kill the wife. Oh god, but
Speaker 2: then they went on to graphically show which is super
Speaker 2: interesting for an adult for.
Speaker 1: A four year old.
Speaker 2: We're midway through them trying to explain how they killed
Speaker 2: the woman and Macy chokes on a twisty and she's.
Speaker 1: Like and they're like, yeah, just like.
Speaker 2: So the reason the reason they do that is so
Speaker 2: that they spill the blood not the rival tribe, so
Speaker 2: they can't actually claim that land, but they graphically did it.
Speaker 2: And then Macy's in the corner just like anyway, then
Speaker 2: they started to do they started to do their traditional
Speaker 2: song and dance, which really got Mazie up a gun
Speaker 2: because they were doing it and I missed filming it.
Speaker 2: I wish i'd fucking god, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: She was like dead body.
Speaker 2: Ever, they're like doing like what they do after they
Speaker 2: kill the woman. Anyway, the cultural tour trip with the.
Speaker 1: Many kids on that trip or.
Speaker 2: None, this is mine. Anyway, that finished up, which it
Speaker 2: was really informant. I actually had a really good time
Speaker 2: and like we were walking back out and which was
Speaker 2: a really cool part. This is a really cool part
Speaker 2: and the kids really love this part because the school,
Speaker 2: the little kids school was at lunch and they were
Speaker 2: all out on the oval, playing with the balls and
Speaker 2: soccer and stuff. So me and Oscar and Mazie are
Speaker 2: running around with these kids and like they were these
Speaker 2: kids were I was kicking the ball really high in
Speaker 2: the air and they're like whoa. And Oscar was just
Speaker 2: like fucking loving it, like running around with all these kids.
Speaker 2: But it was like, you know, a nice little end
Speaker 2: to that little cultural tour because the rest of it
Speaker 2: was completely wasted on them. They were just paying no
Speaker 2: attention to how lucky they've got it.
Speaker 1: I do. I do think, and especially now because there's
Speaker 1: so many people over in Europe, for example, with young kids.
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you think these kids will remember any
Speaker 1: of it? Do you think?
Speaker 2: I no, do you know? I think maybe at Oscar's
Speaker 2: age he might little snippet if he's yeah, I think
Speaker 2: because this is now to when we were kids, things
Speaker 2: are way more documented now, totally like phones, bang bang
Speaker 2: bang bank bank. You could probably jog that memory over
Speaker 2: the next ten years and keep it and.
Speaker 1: That'll be nice.
Speaker 2: That will be nice. It would be a nice moment
Speaker 2: for here. He was frothing on these kids, like kicking
Speaker 2: a ball around.
Speaker 1: Dad be a hero.
Speaker 2: I was a hero to these kids. They now have
Speaker 2: a statue of me.
Speaker 1: You have a great boot on you.
Speaker 2: Thank you. They have a statue.
Speaker 1: Did you tell them you're Waally Lewis.
Speaker 2: I'm professional, definitely not. But that was a good part
Speaker 2: of it, yeah, But the rest of it was like,
Speaker 2: oh God, why did I take these kids on the
Speaker 2: culture because I think I had expectation and I was like,
Speaker 2: I'm going to get these kids to appreciate what they have.
Speaker 2: Didn't work at all, but you know, maybe down the
Speaker 2: track I'll try again. But anyway, we get back to
Speaker 2: the boat and it was that night actually we had
Speaker 2: a bit of a scare just to change the mood
Speaker 2: a little bit. Right now, As you know, Oscar has
Speaker 2: before had croup. Yeah, he had a little bit of
Speaker 2: a cough like later on at night, and well that
Speaker 2: fuck like a bit of cough medicine or whatever to
Speaker 2: try and.
Speaker 1: For anyone who doesn't know what creep is, ash take
Speaker 1: it away.
Speaker 2: Explain not a doctor essentially is it. Yeah, but it
Speaker 2: restricts the airway. So three o'clock in the morning. At
Speaker 2: three o'clock in the morning, Oscar starts to suffocate and
Speaker 2: he cannot breathe whatsoever. There's nothing you can really do
Speaker 2: other than they can give you us some steroids in hospital.
Speaker 2: But I'm on a cruise op in the middle of
Speaker 2: the ocean. They do have the facilities, yeah, but we
Speaker 2: were like, the other thing you can do is steam
Speaker 2: really helps. So at three point thirty in the morning,
Speaker 2: Oscar has stopped breathing essentially, and it was really scary.
Speaker 2: This was the scariest one we've had. We've had it before.
Speaker 2: He's getting worked up, April's getting worked up, Macy's up
Speaker 2: as well. Now I'm trying to just keep everyone calm
Speaker 2: because them being getting worked up, he's not helping him
Speaker 2: trying to breathe. So I've kicked April out of the
Speaker 2: bathroom and I just get out, shut the door with
Speaker 2: Oscar in there, turn the shower on as full ball
Speaker 2: hot as we can to steam it.
Speaker 1: They say steam's good for.
Speaker 2: The thirty minutes we sat in therefore, and eventually got
Speaker 2: him to be able to breathe properly.
Speaker 1: And you came out looking quite trum as well.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've jacked Reddit, but it was like the worst
Speaker 2: place you could possibly yeah, because it's like I don't know,
Speaker 2: I knew they have a medical.
Speaker 1: Centergyicol, did you.
Speaker 2: No, do you know what? I felt like I had
Speaker 2: it under control, I felt, I said, once I kicked
Speaker 2: April out, and I was like to Oscar, you need
Speaker 2: to concentrate on me very closely. You're working up. Let's
Speaker 2: just start with some breaths because he's like he's only skinny,
Speaker 2: sucking his whole like doing his absolute best to try
Speaker 2: and breathe. And then eventually you can sort of hear
Speaker 2: him being able to breathe a bit more. But it
Speaker 2: was a real mission to get me to stop and
Speaker 2: be like, hey, bring him back to me every time,
Speaker 2: because he was like gett into his head, like he's
Speaker 2: not getting any better. But this was, Yeah, it was
Speaker 2: definitely the scariest one I've had where I thought he
Speaker 2: was going to die at one point, and like, obviously
Speaker 2: we're both pretty triggered. And like the morning when like
Speaker 2: we managed to get him breathing again and then we
Speaker 2: sort of sat with him for a few hours. We
Speaker 2: actually all fell asleep again, thank god, and then woke
Speaker 2: up and I think April and I like sort of
Speaker 2: debriefed on him. We're like, fuck, both a little bit
Speaker 2: triggered by it. Yeah, and like we thought like, you know,
Speaker 2: there's not a whole lot you can do until they
Speaker 2: grow out of it, apparently, but that sort of bit,
Speaker 2: it took a bit of a turn. Did the trip
Speaker 2: with a few days to go, got a roller coaster.
Speaker 2: It was a roller coaster, yeah yeah. And then he
Speaker 2: still had a bit of a nasty cough the next day,
Speaker 2: so he just laid really low in the cabin because
Speaker 2: you don't want to be walking around a cruise ship
Speaker 2: with your kid who sounds like a dog barking. It
Speaker 2: was really like ooh ooh sort of bar And then
Speaker 2: that was the third last night, and then on the
Speaker 2: last night, just to change gears again. Going on the
Speaker 2: last night, I had to get content, so I left
Speaker 2: the room when everyone went to bed, April was reading.
Speaker 2: I get a call from April and she goes Macy
Speaker 2: was coffee and I was like, oh fucking here we
Speaker 2: go again. She's no, no, no, she's coughed so much she's
Speaker 2: spewed up onto oscar. He hasn't woken up.
Speaker 1: She just copped it.
Speaker 2: He's just copped a barrage of spew off. Anyway, I
Speaker 2: get back to the room and April's like trying to
Speaker 2: strip Oscar off. He like, she wake him up, didn't
Speaker 2: wake him up, stripped him off without waking up, and
Speaker 2: put a T shirt on him. I have cleaned up
Speaker 2: what spew I can and washed it away, and Macy's
Speaker 2: just like and she's gone back to sleep. And the
Speaker 2: next morning, like, Oscar hasn't noticed.
Speaker 1: And he's like, why am I wearing this outfit?
Speaker 2: He was like, why am I wearing a T shirt?
Speaker 2: I'm like, who's going to tell him? And it was like, don't,
Speaker 2: let's just not do so he still doesn't know what's
Speaker 2: actually happened. He just thought he was really, really sweaty.
Speaker 1: What a beautiful trip.
Speaker 2: It was a lovely trip. And then we got off
Speaker 2: and here I am, oh no, we got off and
Speaker 2: Dad ended up in hospital because he has the moon.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't laugh.
Speaker 2: Sorry, a few days with a trip to go, Dad disappears.
Speaker 1: Dad was like, I need some attention.
Speaker 2: Dad's got influenza and he's got pneumonia and he gets
Speaker 2: wheelchaired off the ship and straight into hospital. How is
Speaker 2: he doing now he's back home, now he's good. Fine.
Speaker 1: Wow, you've experienced it was a huge trip. Technical emergencies,
Speaker 1: cultural experiences. That's what it's all.
Speaker 2: About exactly right the pilots of the trip where Macey
Speaker 2: eating oreos while these kids were trying now at a
Speaker 2: tree route and then also choking on a twisty, or
Speaker 2: they're trying to perform how to Kill a Woman.
Speaker 1: And you're taking photos and videos. This is great.
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I've got some videos of some stuff,
Speaker 2: but it's not doesn't really translate into I love it
Speaker 2: and I just want to go. I haven't missed anything here.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry, you got one minute to tell the story.
Speaker 2: I want to go back to just really quick on
Speaker 2: this whole cultural tour. Okay, I got on the tender
Speaker 2: to go to the cultural tour and I had an
Speaker 2: itchy anus the whole time. I just wanted to let
Speaker 2: you know, thank you that anyways, always.
Speaker 1: Good to get a little update on your.
Speaker 2: It was like I was like a hemorrhoid or was it?
Speaker 2: It was just itchy. But then I was like trying
Speaker 2: to find little places where I could be like sneak
Speaker 2: away your little itchin then I was trying to fart.
Speaker 1: At me.
Speaker 2: People position was the squat so I was indo squatting
Speaker 2: the whole time.
Speaker 1: Gosh, thank you for that last that's okay, beautiful point
Speaker 1: to throw asking on the cake on a great trip.
Speaker 2: It was a good trip, So thank you to Pino
Speaker 2: for having me and my family. As always, I.
Speaker 1: Can't wait for my trip October. Look out for anyone wondering,
Speaker 1: we've actually got We've got everyone coming on our trip.
Speaker 1: I know, I've got Laura's mom, Laura's sister, my sister,
Speaker 1: my mom. Everybody can't wait. I want to tell you
Speaker 1: just quickly about an incident that happened with me ash
Speaker 1: also a medical emergency. You could say with you, well,
Speaker 1: I was there, Oh, you were there. One of the
Speaker 1: kids were involved. Your kids don't do gymnastics, do they?
Speaker 2: Nah? Nah, no, not yet anyway.
Speaker 1: So Marley was super keen, like super keen shit because
Speaker 1: my nieces and nephew's day went to gymnastics and you
Speaker 1: know the girl they wear like a lethard. And Marley
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, it's got a sequence stitched
Speaker 1: wet onto it.
Speaker 2: We went past her the other day. We walk past it.
Speaker 1: We walked past it on the City to serve and
Speaker 1: Mary was like, that's why I do gymnastics. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it was great. You know, sometimes it's really it's a
Speaker 1: battle to get the kids to do those activities. They're
Speaker 1: keen to sign up, but when it's time to actually
Speaker 1: like get in the car go there, they're like, I
Speaker 1: don't want to go.
Speaker 2: It was like school with the jiu jitsu, and the
Speaker 2: guy was like, you come in here and you greet me,
Speaker 2: and I was just like, I don't want you left.
Speaker 1: So Marley took the gymnastics like a duck to water.
Speaker 1: So we do that on Thursday afternoons. Issue was I've
Speaker 1: got the kids on Thursdays, right, and so I'm like, well, amazed,
Speaker 1: Well you can in that one afternoon session. There's multiple
Speaker 1: age groups and there was one age group for Lola
Speaker 1: as well, and I was like, great, I'll try and
Speaker 1: convince Lola that she can do gymnastics and then the
Speaker 1: girls do it together. Job done.
Speaker 2: She's got the perfect head size for flipping.
Speaker 1: You leave her head out of this.
Speaker 2: Definitely counterwait.
Speaker 1: The problem was though she was a bit too young.
Speaker 1: You had to be of a certain age, and my
Speaker 1: sister pre warmed me and she's like, don't even try.
Speaker 1: Like if you say, hey, she's two months from being
Speaker 1: old enough, don't even try. Like they won't accept challenge.
Speaker 1: Accept it, and so I lied on the application form.
Speaker 1: If they're listening, sorry it wasn't me. It was just
Speaker 1: a joke. But Lola wasn't really that keen. And I
Speaker 1: was kind of like, gymnastics is sick, yeah, you love it?
Speaker 1: And she was always like, I don't know about this.
Speaker 1: Every week it's the same, she's like, just you know,
Speaker 1: digging her heels and anyway, we're walking to gymnastics. Last week, gone,
Speaker 1: let it out, let it out.
Speaker 2: It's gone. That's not just.
Speaker 1: Don't fucking try and harder yarn from me. I can
Speaker 1: see it. I'm sorry, I can see it. I know
Speaker 1: you better than you know yourself.
Speaker 2: I feel it's rude, though. When it's not because of
Speaker 2: the story.
Speaker 1: That's fine. I don't get hurt.
Speaker 2: You get more hurt when I'm like, yeah, sorry anymore
Speaker 2: when it comes, you know, please oh go this.
Speaker 1: I would love that. So we're walking down to gymnastics.
Speaker 2: You walk there from here.
Speaker 1: So we parked the car, we walked down, walking down
Speaker 1: the hill, two gymnastics from the car, and Lola bless
Speaker 1: her cotton socks, takes a tumble.
Speaker 2: No, also, you just said takes a tumble, which is
Speaker 2: a gymnastic term.
Speaker 1: Pardon the pun, gymnastics teacher is like ten points.
Speaker 2: She's out the front. You're after the Olympics with ray gun.
Speaker 1: The level too, and the cut on her knees is
Speaker 1: enough to have her give the most blood curdling scream
Speaker 1: you've ever heard.
Speaker 2: Have you got it?
Speaker 1: And I've sent it to your phone and she was like,
Speaker 1: I can't walk, don it, I cannot walk the drama
Speaker 1: and she looked at it and she was like, oh.
Speaker 2: My god, oh yeah that's a video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is if you are queasy, my guy. I just.
Speaker 2: Oh, she's really scraped up those knees. Do you reckon?
Speaker 1: That's nothing, She's only little though nothing.
Speaker 2: I thought, she's definitely given it a good scrape. You
Speaker 2: do you fall over on the concrete and scrape your knees,
Speaker 2: poor little thing. It's not that bad. One of them
Speaker 2: is worse than the other. But it was still so annoying.
Speaker 1: Dude, like it's gravel rash A gray's knee is just
Speaker 1: it absolutely fucking derails the whole day.
Speaker 2: Does she do the thing now? When like after that
Speaker 2: she got in the bath just like it's stick.
Speaker 1: I can't okay, wouldn't do gymnastics.
Speaker 2: Okay, she's got an injury.
Speaker 1: That's nothing. I was like, hey, like, forget about that,
Speaker 1: let's go and do some flipping. And she's like, she
Speaker 1: couldn't walk. It's blood. She wouldn't walk. She wouldn't walk.
Speaker 1: That didn't do gymnastics right, get home. She's like, I
Speaker 1: can't eat dinner. I can't eat because of my injury.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you can eat dinner, and she's like,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do it. I can't still won't walk,
Speaker 1: won't get in the bath, won't even put pants on
Speaker 1: because she doesn't want to have any fabric over the knee.
Speaker 2: Oh it is painful. I feel your pain, but the
Speaker 2: poor thing it probably hurts. At the time.
Speaker 1: I gave her the sympathy. Yeah, okay, all right, well,
Speaker 1: but something like that, you know you're in for like
Speaker 1: two or three.
Speaker 2: She has a band aid too, She get a bunch
Speaker 2: of band aids.
Speaker 1: She wouldn't take a band aid, not even a band aid.
Speaker 1: The grays was too severe for a band aid with
Speaker 1: a gravel round. And next week gymnastics, I'm like, there
Speaker 1: got another fifty bar.
Speaker 2: Take a different route, confuser.
Speaker 1: I don't know how else I can get there.
Speaker 2: Let me have a look at those knees again. I
Speaker 2: just I'm getting a little bit of tram because I've
Speaker 2: had some pretty grays knees before, and it does hurt,
Speaker 2: especially little. They've got such like new skin too, So
Speaker 2: just like so delicate. Anyway, a little bit of blood.
Speaker 1: So your kids are almost dying of oxygen starvation.
Speaker 2: My kids, it's not a competition. I would give sympathy
Speaker 2: to MACI fell over on the boat on the carpet,
Speaker 2: got carpet burn, and then she did a similar thing
Speaker 2: to that where she can't do anything because of this
Speaker 2: tiny bit of carpet burn. Couldn't shower, couldn't eat in
Speaker 2: the pool anyone, Oh the pool was fine, to go
Speaker 2: on the pool, it's hot, I'm in and that then
Speaker 2: like she'd be like see someone and they'd be like, oh,
Speaker 2: hell like me. You don't even know this person.
Speaker 1: It was like me.
Speaker 2: The dramas. The dramas are just a simple force. So
Speaker 2: wce she fall down the footpath or you pushed it in?
Speaker 1: No, I think she does it on purpose. She's done
Speaker 1: it like three times now.
Speaker 2: Herself on the ground. Yeah, she's just like she doesn't
Speaker 2: want to go that bad that she's willing to injure herself.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure it's that's not the case.
Speaker 2: Let's hope not, because it could. That could spiral because.
Speaker 1: They have to wear crocs because it's easy to take
Speaker 1: the shoes off and the crocs. The trip has bloody trip,
Speaker 1: especially in winter. They're not acclimatized.
Speaker 2: Exactly what Macie tripped over on the boat her crocks.
Speaker 2: But this is April's fault. We're gonna throw April under
Speaker 2: the bus. My wife is a typical wife. She likes
Speaker 2: to pack weeks in advance. She likes to be so
Speaker 2: organized that she's packed these crocs that she thought the
Speaker 2: kids had grown into but hadn't yet. That's too big,
Speaker 2: huge fuck. I should have got some phones. The first
Speaker 2: time I saw the kids walk out of the cabin
Speaker 2: and I looked down and I was like, what the
Speaker 2: hell was Well, the kids were in fucking flippers. They're huge.
Speaker 2: So everywhere Macie went she tripped over, tripped over here,
Speaker 2: tripped over, and then she's tripped over and got herself
Speaker 2: a nice little carpet burn. But crocs trip hazard. I
Speaker 2: don't even know where mine are that you gave me
Speaker 2: do you know why? Because I don't want a trip?
Speaker 2: Should we do some lies?
Speaker 1: Please tell me loud.
Speaker 2: Tell me, Matt. This is the segment that we ask
Speaker 2: our lovely, dedicated, doting listeners to send in the little
Speaker 2: lies they tell their.
Speaker 1: Kids to make parenting just a little bit of it.
Speaker 2: And my mom said to me, don't threaten all light
Speaker 2: of the kids unless you can follow through. And remember
Speaker 2: I was telling you the story last week how I
Speaker 2: threw the car out the window. I can follow through, baby,
Speaker 2: don't you worry. So there's a couple that we used
Speaker 2: on this cruise ship that were very very very very useful.
Speaker 2: So I'm going to run you through those two and
Speaker 2: if you've got some that you've been from listeners, I'll
Speaker 2: give you my two first and then you can give
Speaker 2: me what you've got. Sorry to explain that to you
Speaker 2: three or four times.
Speaker 1: Well, we run this segment every single week, so normally.
Speaker 2: You get it. You got it good.
Speaker 1: You're like we talking to the microphone.
Speaker 2: Mike grazes my knee, and now I can't tell you
Speaker 2: my lives. The first one is I used really really look.
Speaker 2: This one got my mom offside because she was like,
Speaker 2: don't say that to them. I would essentially say anytime
Speaker 2: they would do anything that they were like being naughty
Speaker 2: or wouldn't, I'd be like, get in the shower or
Speaker 2: come on, get your shoes on, and be like, right,
Speaker 2: you're going overboard. That usually got the results.
Speaker 1: Actually I did see April sent me a video you
Speaker 1: were dangling oscar off the side.
Speaker 2: Of the for Michael Dinner Michael Jackson's Start. No, that
Speaker 2: was one of them that we used a lot.
Speaker 1: Did it work?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, because they're so gullible. I even picked
Speaker 2: one of them up once. No, but my mum.
Speaker 1: Really at the time whereabouts on the boat in a restaurant.
Speaker 2: April had a really good one on the last night
Speaker 2: because for some reason my kids don't. They don't like potato.
Speaker 1: Mine don't either, Yeah, especially like mashappies, sure mashed, No
Speaker 1: time for that.
Speaker 2: No time for mash. So April had a good one
Speaker 2: saying that mashed potato is just warm ice cream.
Speaker 1: That is brilliant. Did it work?
Speaker 2: No, but I thought that was she whipped that out
Speaker 2: on the last I was like, where did you get
Speaker 2: that from? She was like, just come, just came to me.
Speaker 1: It's very clever.
Speaker 2: I was like, that's good, So actually try it with
Speaker 2: the girls next time. Yeah, next time, you got mash. Like,
Speaker 2: if you're out to dinner and there's some mash.
Speaker 1: Mash, I'd say would be one of the most hated dish.
Speaker 2: It's delicious.
Speaker 1: They just don't like it's a.
Speaker 2: Potato salt butter, bitter milk, bit of cream. Even Yeah, kids,
Speaker 2: that know how good that. You know I'm gonna do this.
Speaker 2: Get a big bowl mash and just eat that. Do
Speaker 2: you had that instant mash stuff?
Speaker 1: Beautiful? Oh heaven, heaven.
Speaker 2: I stand with you, mash. They're my cruise ship lines,
Speaker 2: so feel free listeners to use those. I would say,
Speaker 2: don't threaten to throw your kids overboard when there's a
Speaker 2: crew member around.
Speaker 1: No, I keep that underwrapp.
Speaker 2: I would keep that like more in the privacy of
Speaker 2: your own cabin. Yes, not at a restaurant because it
Speaker 2: scared them. If anything, I.
Speaker 1: Mean it's giving them some like long term trauma.
Speaker 2: Also did the thing because all the railings on the outside,
Speaker 2: like at the top of the deck, it's all glass
Speaker 2: so you can see out. You want to be able
Speaker 2: to see, and the kids are like looking out. I
Speaker 2: do that thing when you go kill them. I'm a
Speaker 2: terrible dad.
Speaker 1: This one, your word's not mine. This one is in
Speaker 1: the Facebook group ash, which is just popping off. Yes, Jesus,
Speaker 1: the bands, the humor, the fun that we have in
Speaker 1: that Facebook group. Yeah, it's unbelievable. If anyone's not a member,
Speaker 1: go and join. This one is from Jessmine Jesuit jezz
Speaker 1: No I thought was Jasmine Jasmine Jessemine Jasamine almonds almond as.
Speaker 1: She says, I don't know if I'm proud of this
Speaker 1: or not. Dot dot dot. My kids are aged twelve,
Speaker 1: ten and eight and they keep eating in their room,
Speaker 1: leaving cups and plates, et cetera, and I'm so over
Speaker 1: telling them not to. I saw this on Facebook and
Speaker 1: I thought it was worth to try. I got some
Speaker 1: brown rice from the shops and I sprinkled it in
Speaker 1: their rooms and they now think that mice have been
Speaker 1: there who are attracted to the food. Oh so, my
Speaker 1: parents live in a granny flat on the property, So
Speaker 1: now the kids are all down there, scared of the
Speaker 1: mice outbrak and claim they are sleeping in there tonight Lowell,
Speaker 1: She says, I'll tell them the truth when they're older,
Speaker 1: when they've learned. And there's a couple of photos here.
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. I like that, a couple of photo references.
Speaker 1: But it does actually look like mice poop.
Speaker 2: It does it? Really does it. That's genius.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 2: They put it on hisse collectible cards near the PlayStation,
Speaker 2: all the things they love.
Speaker 1: That's that's a great lie.
Speaker 2: That is good.
Speaker 1: It's a very good lie.
Speaker 2: That's not brown rice though, just to that's that purple
Speaker 2: black rice. That's black rice.
Speaker 1: Looks delicious.
Speaker 2: That's good.
Speaker 1: Another one asked, this one is a classic. This one
Speaker 1: is a classic. So recently we were at Westfield when
Speaker 1: I junction and outside one of the stores there's a
Speaker 1: few like three is a cluster of those little toy
Speaker 1: airplane cars that you put the kids in. You put
Speaker 1: in a few bucks and then it got seconds. They
Speaker 1: look very tired, very tired. Kids love it. Kids love it.
Speaker 1: We went there, kids were like, we would to have
Speaker 1: a go a nana. My mom was saying, look, unfortunately
Speaker 1: these ones are all broken. But what we can do,
Speaker 1: but the time we're on the phone, you guys can
Speaker 1: have a minute each in each one. And they were
Speaker 1: sitting in there and they're like, this is kind of fun,
Speaker 1: I guess. And then as we were walking away, then
Speaker 1: another parent went in there threw some money in things like.
Speaker 2: Busted and the kids are like, we want to go on.
Speaker 1: I'm like, can we just collectively parents, can we just
Speaker 1: all agree never to put any amount of money in
Speaker 1: those anything?
Speaker 2: Ever if there's another family, If you turn up and
Speaker 2: there's another family in it, and they're all pretending it
Speaker 2: doesn't work, read the room. Just know, just know that
Speaker 2: watch this Timmy Busted.
Speaker 1: It is now time for listener questions and ask the
Speaker 1: way this segment works, just so you know, people who
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast listening right in with a question
Speaker 1: that in relation to parenting, which we then ask each
Speaker 1: other and give it. Would you like to go first?
Speaker 1: And I go first.
Speaker 2: I got a really quick one for you, please that
Speaker 2: it comes off the back of the sleeping arrangement on
Speaker 2: the cruise, because we had bunk beds, right, so there
Speaker 2: was a double bunk bottom and top so open, and
Speaker 2: I slept on top and Macey and Oscars slept on
Speaker 2: the bottom. Now, Mace, you just had in the room.
Speaker 1: You had just bunk beds. Yeah, yeah, right, Okay, that's
Speaker 1: pretty fun.
Speaker 2: Kids enjoyed it, but Macy's in a cot still at home.
Speaker 1: Can I ask when you did the the horizontal tango
Speaker 1: sex top bunk or bottom bunk balcony.
Speaker 2: It was definitely in the bottom bunk, like having sex
Speaker 2: in a cubby house. It was my child dream. So,
Speaker 2: as you know, Macy's still in a cot because she's
Speaker 2: you know, quite young, not quite young, she's like two,
Speaker 2: but she's obviously enjoyed being out of that cot. So
Speaker 2: and the question goes, because you've got slightly older child
Speaker 2: than me, what age do I convert her out of
Speaker 2: a I can't get out of this bed situation. To
Speaker 2: that out she can get out and roam. Like I said,
Speaker 2: you've got two, both can get out now in rome
Speaker 2: and coming like Oscar already comes into my bed in
Speaker 2: the middle of I don't think two people kicking me
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night. What do you think
Speaker 2: is an appropriate age?
Speaker 1: I think we took Marley out of a cot pretty
Speaker 1: early because she was just so mobile, like spider Monkey
Speaker 1: she did. She would climb like nothing else. So even
Speaker 1: like it's ideal to have your kid caged in, right,
Speaker 1: you want to treat them like a wild animal. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the less mobile they are the better because, especially in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, sometimes they wake up they
Speaker 1: know they can't go anywhere, so they go back to sleep.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're trapped.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we actually put her. We gave her a
Speaker 1: dog collar, and we leashed her to the wall.
Speaker 2: Perfect.
Speaker 1: It worked out brilliantly.
Speaker 2: Can I just write this down so I don't forget.
Speaker 1: Please everyone listening, please take my testimony. So we put
Speaker 1: Mali in he bed pretty early and it wasn't. It's
Speaker 1: actually like we thought it was going to be a nightmare.
Speaker 1: We were like, oh shit, this is going to derail
Speaker 1: bedtimes like nothing else. And it was fine.
Speaker 2: I think like with Oscar because we did it. I
Speaker 2: think it's about three years old, which Macey's coming up
Speaker 2: to it. But with Oscar he was so vocal all
Speaker 2: the time that you could have a proper conversation with him.
Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying Macy's not as smart as Oscar,
Speaker 2: but like I would be like, you want a big
Speaker 2: boy bed and really encourage the big boy bed. Yes
Speaker 2: that he was like, this is my big boy bed.
Speaker 2: I'm never leaving it. But with Macey, she doesn't listen
Speaker 2: to anyone. She's like, fuck this I'm out here or
Speaker 2: even on the cruise, I like woke up. I'm like,
Speaker 2: where's Macy. Look over and she's coloring in at three
Speaker 2: point thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, yeah, it's so annoying when
Speaker 1: they wake up in the middle of the night and
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I guess it's time to get up
Speaker 1: and start the day early bird gets the work.
Speaker 2: But now she's refusing her sleep suit. She doesn't want
Speaker 2: to sleep in a cot at home, so it's like,
Speaker 2: what's the plan? So that's why it's like, that's why musk.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the only thing with Lola when we
Speaker 1: took her out of the cot just meant that she
Speaker 1: was in wake up in the middle of the night.
Speaker 1: We would then bring her into our bed, which wouldn't
Speaker 1: mind which we're into.
Speaker 2: It's just your bed's tiny.
Speaker 1: How dare you talk about like that in saying that
Speaker 1: last night I woke up flanked by two children. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Lola was like, I'm in the bunk bed she
Speaker 1: so she left us.
Speaker 2: I've been sleeping in the completely separate room at Papa's
Speaker 2: house and I've been in the door. It's a really
Speaker 2: old house in door handles really high and if you notice.
Speaker 1: That the kids can't get in.
Speaker 2: But also April's like in the middle of the night,
Speaker 2: she'll walk up and open my door. So anyway, we
Speaker 2: have had a.
Speaker 1: Lot of questions ash about how to communicate a death
Speaker 1: in the family to the kids. And you may, for
Speaker 1: those of you who come from life on cut, you
Speaker 1: may have heard the news recently that Laura's stepdad, Lenny,
Speaker 1: absolute legend of a bloke Neil nicknamed Lennie, he passed away.
Speaker 2: I was just like so confused, and I'm like, yeah, Lenny, he.
Speaker 1: Passed away after a long battle with cancer, nine years
Speaker 1: brought to the last breath and he's now passed away.
Speaker 1: The kids absolutely love far. We've scorn far and we've
Speaker 1: got the funeral coming up this weekend, and we wanted
Speaker 1: to preempt We were thinking, do we bring the kids,
Speaker 1: do not bring the kids? But I think it's better
Speaker 1: to evolve them. We were pretty up front with the
Speaker 1: kids and we explained. We were kind of saying to
Speaker 1: them that Lenny's been unwell for a long time, so
Speaker 1: we were trying to just like we didn't want to
Speaker 1: rip the rug from underneath the kids and just you know,
Speaker 1: say hey, fars gone. Yeah, and we were so afraid
Speaker 1: to tell them in fear of them having some kind
Speaker 1: of traumatic experiences. A few times with Laura's granddad, he's
Speaker 1: passed away when the kids are really young, and sometimes
Speaker 1: Marley will be at nighttime and she's like, I can't
Speaker 1: I can't get the thought of granddad dying out of
Speaker 1: my head.
Speaker 2: And we're like, fuck, how do you you have mentioned that?
Speaker 2: Lowel O'Malley has talked about death a lot like Oscar's only.
Speaker 1: Have you had Have you had anyone passed recently in
Speaker 1: your family?
Speaker 2: Oscar's had his great grandfather, my grandfather, Billy Wicks die
Speaker 2: when he's been alive a couple of years ago. Oscar
Speaker 2: was much younger. But the funny thing is we didn't
Speaker 2: really have to explain it to him because he was
Speaker 2: quite young. But he was only at one word. But
Speaker 2: he started calling his comfort that he sleeps with Billy.
Speaker 2: Oh really literally the day he died, and he wouldn't
Speaker 2: even know, which is random.
Speaker 1: How old was Oscar when that happened.
Speaker 2: I think it would have been like two, right, and
Speaker 2: a bit like even now, there's and foes around and
Speaker 2: he's like, you know what happened, and we've just been like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, that's Billy passed away because he's got the
Speaker 2: middle name as well, William is Oscar's middle name. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can't imagine that. Now. You got me thinking, like
Speaker 2: the conversation that if you know someone now died like
Speaker 2: Oscar is so inquisitive, as is Mali there at that age,
Speaker 2: and Lowell was sort of getting into that age too,
Speaker 2: where they're like why everything is why. It's like, shit,
Speaker 2: I can't.
Speaker 1: So it did help to say, like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, we've explained that he's been on well for
Speaker 1: a while, and we're going to go, oh, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I understand that. Yeah. I think it did go over
Speaker 1: Lola's head, Like, you know, she's only three. She can't
Speaker 1: really understand the significance of death as you can appreciate
Speaker 1: a three year old, but Marley really understands it. Dude.
Speaker 1: It's gonna sound really obvious, but it helps so much
Speaker 1: telling her on a Saturday morning when we had the
Speaker 1: entire day as a family together, because you know, we're like, oh,
Speaker 1: can we tell her in the morning before daycare? But
Speaker 1: then you know, the thought of then dropping that news
Speaker 1: and her and then being away from.
Speaker 2: You have a good day daycare, because she might not
Speaker 2: process it for another hour or so and then be like,
Speaker 2: I want to cuddle for mummy or daddy and make
Speaker 2: sure even even if she's thinking empathetically, which she probably
Speaker 2: is because she's already thinking about death, she'd be like,
Speaker 2: I wonder if mummy's okay, and if Mummy's not there
Speaker 2: to give her a cuddle at least, like you've given
Speaker 2: her the day to kind of get used to the
Speaker 2: thought that someone's not around anymore. Like I remember when
Speaker 2: when Dad was going through that heart attack staff and
Speaker 2: it was like he was here, and then I was
Speaker 2: meant to see the kids a day after as well,
Speaker 2: and they're like where is he and trying to explain
Speaker 2: to them that he's really unwell, and like, you know,
Speaker 2: also for like grandparents and stuff like that. When I
Speaker 2: spoke to Dad about that, Dad was like, I was scared,
Speaker 2: but not for me the kids. I was scared for
Speaker 2: my grandkids that I've just like built this bond with,
Speaker 2: not me, but like the grand kids. So it's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a I'm not going to
Speaker 2: sit here and say there's a right and the wrong
Speaker 2: way to go about I think the way you've gone
Speaker 2: about it is definitely but.
Speaker 1: We found it having the open dialogue way easier, and
Speaker 1: especially because there's been a lot of tears in the
Speaker 1: household over the last week, lots of tears, and you
Speaker 1: want the kids to understand what those tears are a
Speaker 1: result of. You know, we can talk about it's okay
Speaker 1: to be upset, sokay to be sad. So for us
Speaker 1: being upfront with the kids and being honest with them,
Speaker 1: it's been so much easier.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because like I said, I don't want to say
Speaker 2: there's a right and the wrong way because some people,
Speaker 2: even adults, process everything differently. So like for me, death
Speaker 2: it's going to sound horrible, is not. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't like my grandfather died. As much as I
Speaker 2: miss him, I didn't cry. I don't have that. It's
Speaker 2: just life really, but like and some adults are like that,
Speaker 2: which I don't know how I'm going to explain. I
Speaker 2: think I'll just try and figure out when that happens.
Speaker 1: But if there's any parents out there who experienced it
Speaker 1: communicated it in a way with the kids that's been
Speaker 1: received really well, we would love to do your thoughts.
Speaker 2: Allow if there's an expert out there that's gone, you know,
Speaker 2: the best way to do it. But like everyone's going
Speaker 2: to be different, right, Like I was just going to
Speaker 2: be different to Marley. If I said to Oscar like,
Speaker 2: you know, blah blah blah, it has been really unwell
Speaker 2: and unfortunately they passed away. I don't know how he would.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Marley's had really big emotions and there's
Speaker 1: a little part of us where we're thinking, are those
Speaker 1: big emotions right now results of the news that we
Speaker 1: dropped in her last week? Not sure? Not sure? But yeah,
Speaker 1: we got the funeral coming up in a couple of days, So.
Speaker 2: I don't want to Yeah, I don't want to end
Speaker 2: on that note, but I want to ask a question
Speaker 2: as well. On top of that weekend funeral versus weekday.
Speaker 1: Funeral, we're doing Friday.
Speaker 2: It's a Friday. I'm gonna say weekend funeral.
Speaker 1: We got Friday funeral Hawaiian shirts. No way, that's pretty
Speaker 1: cool Hawaiian shirt funeral.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I went to a friend of mine dad's funeral,
Speaker 2: which his favorite color was red, so we all wore.
Speaker 1: Red, all sexy. It was a funeral, so Lenny is
Speaker 1: up there listening in. He was a big fan of
Speaker 1: the show. Yeah so mate, Rest in peace.
Speaker 2: Rest in peace, Lendie we yes, and I'm sorry for
Speaker 2: you and your family to go through something like that.
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