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Speaker 1: Asked the question everyone wants hands in. How was the

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Speaker 2: My guy, it's a lie. It isn't a lie. I promise.

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Speaker 2: I promise because I did have you on speaker phone

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Speaker 2: when I said to April, guess what Maddie J got me?

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Speaker 2: And she played it pretty cool like Q yeah.

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Speaker 1: On the phone, she was like, oh, that's so thoughtful.

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Speaker 2: And then she pokes her head back and shoes to

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Speaker 1: Now, welcome back to two notting dads. I'm Mattie Jay

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Speaker 1: and I'm Ash and this is a podcast all about

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Speaker 1: parenting and flesh lights, the good, the bad, and the

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Speaker 1: flesh light. If you've come wanting any type of flesh

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Speaker 1: light advice, say because that is what.

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Speaker 2: That is what we talk about. Now. We're talking about

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Speaker 2: flesh lights and two flesh lighting dads and shit.

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Speaker 1: That is like the two main topics of what we

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Speaker 2: Someone was like, two grown men talking about shit is deplorable,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, I have a laugh, cockhead.

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Speaker 1: What else is there to talk about nothing.

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Speaker 2: Kids, shit a lot, We shit a lot. Oh yeah

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Speaker 2: that too. What's going on? What's happening? So what I what?

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Speaker 2: I I what I miss?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: I feel like I see you every day now I

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Speaker 2: got nothing to talk. Let's just see different hour.

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Speaker 1: And we had what was it, ten days and not

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Speaker 2: We did yes, which we get into we'll get into short.

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Speaker 3: Both of us were aching aching for some company about

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Speaker 3: aching and we're like, I did call you, I think

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Speaker 3: like stay seventy and I was like, anyway, I'm going

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Speaker 3: to go, and you were like, don't edge.

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Speaker 2: Me like that. You ring me.

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Speaker 1: You'd call me and you'd be like hey about hey,

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Speaker 2: I think I just wanted to win to you because

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Speaker 2: we ran out of Nappy's on the ship and I

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Speaker 2: And I was like, and You're like, don't dare ring

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Speaker 1: You call, I get comfy, I sit down, I strapped.

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Speaker 2: Pull your dick out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I sit there. And then you're like I can't

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Speaker 2: We'll playing sorry.

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Speaker 1: So we didn't talk about it last episode, but I

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Speaker 1: do want to know how the cruise went. Because we

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Speaker 2: No, you you wanted to try and work more around Laura.

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Speaker 2: As the doting husband that you are, you'll do so,

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Speaker 1: Because you were like, hey, I'm thinking about taking this

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Speaker 2: No, But the third trip we did, which is Mystery Island,

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Speaker 1: She was like dead body.

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Speaker 2: Ever, they're like doing like what they do after they

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Speaker 2: But it was like, you know, a nice little end

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Speaker 1: That'll be nice.

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Speaker 2: That will be nice. It would be a nice moment

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Speaker 1: Dad be a hero.

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Speaker 2: I was a hero to these kids. They now have

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Speaker 1: You have a great boot on you.

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Speaker 2: I'm professional, definitely not. But that was a good part

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Speaker 1: For anyone who doesn't know what creep is, ash take

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Speaker 2: Explain not a doctor essentially is it. Yeah, but it

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Speaker 2: The thirty minutes we sat in therefore, and eventually got

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Speaker 1: And you came out looking quite trum as well.

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Speaker 2: No, do you know what? I felt like I had

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Speaker 1: And he's like, why am I wearing this outfit?

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Speaker 2: I'm like, who's going to tell him? And it was like, don't,

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Speaker 1: What a beautiful trip.

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Speaker 2: It was a lovely trip. And then we got off

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Speaker 2: and here I am, oh no, we got off and

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Speaker 2: Dad ended up in hospital because he has the moon.

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't laugh.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, a few days with a trip to go, Dad disappears.

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Speaker 2: Dad's got influenza and he's got pneumonia and he gets

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Speaker 1: Wow, you've experienced it was a huge trip. Technical emergencies,

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Speaker 1: cultural experiences. That's what it's all.

438
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Speaker 2: About exactly right the pilots of the trip where Macey

439
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 2: eating oreos while these kids were trying now at a

440
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 2: tree route and then also choking on a twisty, or

441
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Speaker 2: they're trying to perform how to Kill a Woman.

442
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: And you're taking photos and videos. This is great.

443
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 2: I know, yeah, I've got some videos of some stuff,

444
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 2: but it's not doesn't really translate into I love it

445
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 2: and I just want to go. I haven't missed anything here.

446
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry, you got one minute to tell the story.

447
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Speaker 2: I want to go back to just really quick on

448
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Speaker 2: this whole cultural tour. Okay, I got on the tender

449
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 2: to go to the cultural tour and I had an

450
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Speaker 2: itchy anus the whole time. I just wanted to let

451
00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 2: you know, thank you that anyways, always.

452
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Speaker 1: Good to get a little update on your.

453
00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 2: It was like I was like a hemorrhoid or was it?

454
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,840
Speaker 2: It was just itchy. But then I was like trying

455
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 2: to find little places where I could be like sneak

456
00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 2: away your little itchin then I was trying to fart.

457
00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 1: At me.

458
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 2: People position was the squat so I was indo squatting

459
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:02,640
Speaker 2: the whole time.

460
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Speaker 1: Gosh, thank you for that last that's okay, beautiful point

461
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: to throw asking on the cake on a great trip.

462
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: It was a good trip, So thank you to Pino

463
00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,960
Speaker 2: for having me and my family. As always, I.

464
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Speaker 1: Can't wait for my trip October. Look out for anyone wondering,

465
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,639
Speaker 1: we've actually got We've got everyone coming on our trip.

466
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Speaker 1: I know, I've got Laura's mom, Laura's sister, my sister,

467
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Speaker 1: my mom. Everybody can't wait. I want to tell you

468
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Speaker 1: just quickly about an incident that happened with me ash

469
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Speaker 1: also a medical emergency. You could say with you, well,

470
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Speaker 1: I was there, Oh, you were there. One of the

471
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Speaker 1: kids were involved. Your kids don't do gymnastics, do they?

472
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 2: Nah? Nah, no, not yet anyway.

473
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Speaker 1: So Marley was super keen, like super keen shit because

474
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Speaker 1: my nieces and nephew's day went to gymnastics and you

475
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: know the girl they wear like a lethard. And Marley

476
00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, it's got a sequence stitched

477
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: wet onto it.

478
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 2: We went past her the other day. We walk past it.

479
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,800
Speaker 1: We walked past it on the City to serve and

480
00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:09,880
Speaker 1: Mary was like, that's why I do gymnastics. Yeah, And

481
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: it was great. You know, sometimes it's really it's a

482
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,400
Speaker 1: battle to get the kids to do those activities. They're

483
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Speaker 1: keen to sign up, but when it's time to actually

484
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: like get in the car go there, they're like, I

485
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: don't want to go.

486
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 2: It was like school with the jiu jitsu, and the

487
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,520
Speaker 2: guy was like, you come in here and you greet me,

488
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: and I was just like, I don't want you left.

489
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Speaker 1: So Marley took the gymnastics like a duck to water.

490
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Speaker 1: So we do that on Thursday afternoons. Issue was I've

491
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Speaker 1: got the kids on Thursdays, right, and so I'm like, well, amazed,

492
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Speaker 1: Well you can in that one afternoon session. There's multiple

493
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Speaker 1: age groups and there was one age group for Lola

494
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Speaker 1: as well, and I was like, great, I'll try and

495
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Speaker 1: convince Lola that she can do gymnastics and then the

496
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Speaker 1: girls do it together. Job done.

497
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,800
Speaker 2: She's got the perfect head size for flipping.

498
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Speaker 1: You leave her head out of this.

499
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: Definitely counterwait.

500
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: The problem was though she was a bit too young.

501
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,639
Speaker 1: You had to be of a certain age, and my

502
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 1: sister pre warmed me and she's like, don't even try.

503
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 1: Like if you say, hey, she's two months from being

504
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 1: old enough, don't even try. Like they won't accept challenge.

505
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,960
Speaker 1: Accept it, and so I lied on the application form.

506
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 1: If they're listening, sorry it wasn't me. It was just

507
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:23,679
Speaker 1: a joke. But Lola wasn't really that keen. And I

508
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: was kind of like, gymnastics is sick, yeah, you love it?

509
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,880
Speaker 1: And she was always like, I don't know about this.

510
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: Every week it's the same, she's like, just you know,

511
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 1: digging her heels and anyway, we're walking to gymnastics. Last week, gone,

512
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Speaker 1: let it out, let it out.

513
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 2: It's gone. That's not just.

514
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 1: Don't fucking try and harder yarn from me. I can

515
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Speaker 1: see it. I'm sorry, I can see it. I know

516
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,679
Speaker 1: you better than you know yourself.

517
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Speaker 2: I feel it's rude, though. When it's not because of

518
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Speaker 2: the story.

519
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Speaker 1: That's fine. I don't get hurt.

520
00:24:56,080 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 2: You get more hurt when I'm like, yeah, sorry anymore

521
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 2: when it comes, you know, please oh go this.

522
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Speaker 1: I would love that. So we're walking down to gymnastics.

523
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 2: You walk there from here.

524
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 1: So we parked the car, we walked down, walking down

525
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Speaker 1: the hill, two gymnastics from the car, and Lola bless

526
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: her cotton socks, takes a tumble.

527
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 2: No, also, you just said takes a tumble, which is

528
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 2: a gymnastic term.

529
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: Pardon the pun, gymnastics teacher is like ten points.

530
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 2: She's out the front. You're after the Olympics with ray gun.

531
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: The level too, and the cut on her knees is

532
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Speaker 1: enough to have her give the most blood curdling scream

533
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:42,920
Speaker 1: you've ever heard.

534
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 2: Have you got it?

535
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 1: And I've sent it to your phone and she was like,

536
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 1: I can't walk, don it, I cannot walk the drama

537
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: and she looked at it and she was like, oh.

538
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 2: My god, oh yeah that's a video.

539
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is if you are queasy, my guy. I just.

540
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 2: Oh, she's really scraped up those knees. Do you reckon?

541
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,880
Speaker 1: That's nothing, She's only little though nothing.

542
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 2: I thought, she's definitely given it a good scrape. You

543
00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 2: do you fall over on the concrete and scrape your knees,

544
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 2: poor little thing. It's not that bad. One of them

545
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: is worse than the other. But it was still so annoying.

546
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Speaker 1: Dude, like it's gravel rash A gray's knee is just

547
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 1: it absolutely fucking derails the whole day.

548
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: Does she do the thing now? When like after that

549
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,159
Speaker 2: she got in the bath just like it's stick.

550
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Speaker 1: I can't okay, wouldn't do gymnastics.

551
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,400
Speaker 2: Okay, she's got an injury.

552
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: That's nothing. I was like, hey, like, forget about that,

553
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: let's go and do some flipping. And she's like, she

554
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: couldn't walk. It's blood. She wouldn't walk. She wouldn't walk.

555
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,760
Speaker 1: That didn't do gymnastics right, get home. She's like, I

556
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,959
Speaker 1: can't eat dinner. I can't eat because of my injury.

557
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, you can eat dinner, and she's like,

558
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do it. I can't still won't walk,

559
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 1: won't get in the bath, won't even put pants on

560
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: because she doesn't want to have any fabric over the knee.

561
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: Oh it is painful. I feel your pain, but the

562
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 2: poor thing it probably hurts. At the time.

563
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: I gave her the sympathy. Yeah, okay, all right, well,

564
00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: but something like that, you know you're in for like

565
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: two or three.

566
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Speaker 2: She has a band aid too, She get a bunch

567
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 2: of band aids.

568
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: She wouldn't take a band aid, not even a band aid.

569
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: The grays was too severe for a band aid with

570
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,200
Speaker 1: a gravel round. And next week gymnastics, I'm like, there

571
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: got another fifty bar.

572
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,679
Speaker 2: Take a different route, confuser.

573
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: I don't know how else I can get there.

574
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: Let me have a look at those knees again. I

575
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: just I'm getting a little bit of tram because I've

576
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 2: had some pretty grays knees before, and it does hurt,

577
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: especially little. They've got such like new skin too, So

578
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: just like so delicate. Anyway, a little bit of blood.

579
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 1: So your kids are almost dying of oxygen starvation.

580
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 2: My kids, it's not a competition. I would give sympathy

581
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 2: to MACI fell over on the boat on the carpet,

582
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: got carpet burn, and then she did a similar thing

583
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,719
Speaker 2: to that where she can't do anything because of this

584
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:32,439
Speaker 2: tiny bit of carpet burn. Couldn't shower, couldn't eat in

585
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: the pool anyone, Oh the pool was fine, to go

586
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 2: on the pool, it's hot, I'm in and that then

587
00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 2: like she'd be like see someone and they'd be like, oh,

588
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 2: hell like me. You don't even know this person.

589
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: It was like me.

590
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 2: The dramas. The dramas are just a simple force. So

591
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 2: wce she fall down the footpath or you pushed it in?

592
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: No, I think she does it on purpose. She's done

593
00:28:58,560 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 1: it like three times now.

594
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 2: Herself on the ground. Yeah, she's just like she doesn't

595
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 2: want to go that bad that she's willing to injure herself.

596
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure it's that's not the case.

597
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: Let's hope not, because it could. That could spiral because.

598
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: They have to wear crocs because it's easy to take

599
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: the shoes off and the crocs. The trip has bloody trip,

600
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 1: especially in winter. They're not acclimatized.

601
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: Exactly what Macie tripped over on the boat her crocks.

602
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 2: But this is April's fault. We're gonna throw April under

603
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: the bus. My wife is a typical wife. She likes

604
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: to pack weeks in advance. She likes to be so

605
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: organized that she's packed these crocs that she thought the

606
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: kids had grown into but hadn't yet. That's too big,

607
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 2: huge fuck. I should have got some phones. The first

608
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 2: time I saw the kids walk out of the cabin

609
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 2: and I looked down and I was like, what the

610
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 2: hell was Well, the kids were in fucking flippers. They're huge.

611
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: So everywhere Macie went she tripped over, tripped over here,

612
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: tripped over, and then she's tripped over and got herself

613
00:29:56,120 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 2: a nice little carpet burn. But crocs trip hazard. I

614
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 2: don't even know where mine are that you gave me

615
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 2: do you know why? Because I don't want a trip?

616
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 2: Should we do some lies?

617
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 1: Please tell me loud.

618
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 2: Tell me, Matt. This is the segment that we ask

619
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Speaker 2: our lovely, dedicated, doting listeners to send in the little

620
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 2: lies they tell their.

621
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Speaker 1: Kids to make parenting just a little bit of it.

622
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 2: And my mom said to me, don't threaten all light

623
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 2: of the kids unless you can follow through. And remember

624
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: I was telling you the story last week how I

625
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: threw the car out the window. I can follow through, baby,

626
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 2: don't you worry. So there's a couple that we used

627
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: on this cruise ship that were very very very very useful.

628
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 2: So I'm going to run you through those two and

629
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Speaker 2: if you've got some that you've been from listeners, I'll

630
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Speaker 2: give you my two first and then you can give

631
00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: me what you've got. Sorry to explain that to you

632
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 2: three or four times.

633
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: Well, we run this segment every single week, so normally.

634
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: You get it. You got it good.

635
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: You're like we talking to the microphone.

636
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: Mike grazes my knee, and now I can't tell you

637
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: my lives. The first one is I used really really look.

638
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: This one got my mom offside because she was like,

639
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: don't say that to them. I would essentially say anytime

640
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: they would do anything that they were like being naughty

641
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 2: or wouldn't, I'd be like, get in the shower or

642
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: come on, get your shoes on, and be like, right,

643
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: you're going overboard. That usually got the results.

644
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: Actually I did see April sent me a video you

645
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: were dangling oscar off the side.

646
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 2: Of the for Michael Dinner Michael Jackson's Start. No, that

647
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 2: was one of them that we used a lot.

648
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: Did it work?

649
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, yeah, because they're so gullible. I even picked

650
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 2: one of them up once. No, but my mum.

651
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: Really at the time whereabouts on the boat in a restaurant.

652
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Speaker 2: April had a really good one on the last night

653
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 2: because for some reason my kids don't. They don't like potato.

654
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: Mine don't either, Yeah, especially like mashappies, sure mashed, No

655
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: time for that.

656
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 2: No time for mash. So April had a good one

657
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: saying that mashed potato is just warm ice cream.

658
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: That is brilliant. Did it work?

659
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: No, but I thought that was she whipped that out

660
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 2: on the last I was like, where did you get

661
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: that from? She was like, just come, just came to me.

662
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: It's very clever.

663
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: I was like, that's good, So actually try it with

664
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 2: the girls next time. Yeah, next time, you got mash. Like,

665
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: if you're out to dinner and there's some mash.

666
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: Mash, I'd say would be one of the most hated dish.

667
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 2: It's delicious.

668
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: They just don't like it's a.

669
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 2: Potato salt butter, bitter milk, bit of cream. Even Yeah, kids,

670
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 2: that know how good that. You know I'm gonna do this.

671
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 2: Get a big bowl mash and just eat that. Do

672
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 2: you had that instant mash stuff?

673
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: Beautiful? Oh heaven, heaven.

674
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 2: I stand with you, mash. They're my cruise ship lines,

675
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: so feel free listeners to use those. I would say,

676
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 2: don't threaten to throw your kids overboard when there's a

677
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 2: crew member around.

678
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: No, I keep that underwrapp.

679
00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 2: I would keep that like more in the privacy of

680
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 2: your own cabin. Yes, not at a restaurant because it

681
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: scared them. If anything, I.

682
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: Mean it's giving them some like long term trauma.

683
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 2: Also did the thing because all the railings on the outside,

684
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 2: like at the top of the deck, it's all glass

685
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: so you can see out. You want to be able

686
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: to see, and the kids are like looking out. I

687
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: do that thing when you go kill them. I'm a

688
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: terrible dad.

689
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: This one, your word's not mine. This one is in

690
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 1: the Facebook group ash, which is just popping off. Yes, Jesus,

691
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,479
Speaker 1: the bands, the humor, the fun that we have in

692
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: that Facebook group. Yeah, it's unbelievable. If anyone's not a member,

693
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: go and join. This one is from Jessmine Jesuit jezz

694
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: No I thought was Jasmine Jasmine Jessemine Jasamine almonds almond as.

695
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: She says, I don't know if I'm proud of this

696
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: or not. Dot dot dot. My kids are aged twelve,

697
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 1: ten and eight and they keep eating in their room,

698
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 1: leaving cups and plates, et cetera, and I'm so over

699
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: telling them not to. I saw this on Facebook and

700
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 1: I thought it was worth to try. I got some

701
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: brown rice from the shops and I sprinkled it in

702
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 1: their rooms and they now think that mice have been

703
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 1: there who are attracted to the food. Oh so, my

704
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 1: parents live in a granny flat on the property, So

705
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: now the kids are all down there, scared of the

706
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 1: mice outbrak and claim they are sleeping in there tonight Lowell,

707
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 1: She says, I'll tell them the truth when they're older,

708
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: when they've learned. And there's a couple of photos here.

709
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: That's pretty good. I like that, a couple of photo references.

710
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: But it does actually look like mice poop.

711
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 2: It does it? Really does it. That's genius.

712
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: I love.

713
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,800
Speaker 2: They put it on hisse collectible cards near the PlayStation,

714
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 2: all the things they love.

715
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 1: That's that's a great lie.

716
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: That is good.

717
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,839
Speaker 1: It's a very good lie.

718
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 2: That's not brown rice though, just to that's that purple

719
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 2: black rice. That's black rice.

720
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 1: Looks delicious.

721
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 2: That's good.

722
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: Another one asked, this one is a classic. This one

723
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,239
Speaker 1: is a classic. So recently we were at Westfield when

724
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: I junction and outside one of the stores there's a

725
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 1: few like three is a cluster of those little toy

726
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: airplane cars that you put the kids in. You put

727
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: in a few bucks and then it got seconds. They

728
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: look very tired, very tired. Kids love it. Kids love it.

729
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: We went there, kids were like, we would to have

730
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: a go a nana. My mom was saying, look, unfortunately

731
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 1: these ones are all broken. But what we can do,

732
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: but the time we're on the phone, you guys can

733
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: have a minute each in each one. And they were

734
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: sitting in there and they're like, this is kind of fun,

735
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: I guess. And then as we were walking away, then

736
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: another parent went in there threw some money in things like.

737
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 2: Busted and the kids are like, we want to go on.

738
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, can we just collectively parents, can we just

739
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: all agree never to put any amount of money in

740
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: those anything?

741
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 2: Ever if there's another family, If you turn up and

742
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: there's another family in it, and they're all pretending it

743
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: doesn't work, read the room. Just know, just know that

744
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:34,240
Speaker 2: watch this Timmy Busted.

745
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 1: It is now time for listener questions and ask the

746
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: way this segment works, just so you know, people who

747
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 1: listen to the podcast listening right in with a question

748
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: that in relation to parenting, which we then ask each

749
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: other and give it. Would you like to go first?

750
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: And I go first.

751
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 2: I got a really quick one for you, please that

752
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 2: it comes off the back of the sleeping arrangement on

753
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: the cruise, because we had bunk beds, right, so there

754
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: was a double bunk bottom and top so open, and

755
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: I slept on top and Macey and Oscars slept on

756
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 2: the bottom. Now, Mace, you just had in the room.

757
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: You had just bunk beds. Yeah, yeah, right, Okay, that's

758
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: pretty fun.

759
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,759
Speaker 2: Kids enjoyed it, but Macy's in a cot still at home.

760
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: Can I ask when you did the the horizontal tango

761
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 1: sex top bunk or bottom bunk balcony.

762
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: It was definitely in the bottom bunk, like having sex

763
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: in a cubby house. It was my child dream. So,

764
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: as you know, Macy's still in a cot because she's

765
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 2: you know, quite young, not quite young, she's like two,

766
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 2: but she's obviously enjoyed being out of that cot. So

767
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 2: and the question goes, because you've got slightly older child

768
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: than me, what age do I convert her out of

769
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: a I can't get out of this bed situation. To

770
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:03,080
Speaker 2: that out she can get out and roam. Like I said,

771
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: you've got two, both can get out now in rome

772
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: and coming like Oscar already comes into my bed in

773
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: the middle of I don't think two people kicking me

774
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night. What do you think

775
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,000
Speaker 2: is an appropriate age?

776
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: I think we took Marley out of a cot pretty

777
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: early because she was just so mobile, like spider Monkey

778
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: she did. She would climb like nothing else. So even

779
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: like it's ideal to have your kid caged in, right,

780
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,399
Speaker 1: you want to treat them like a wild animal. Oh yeah,

781
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: the less mobile they are the better because, especially in

782
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: the middle of the night, sometimes they wake up they

783
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: know they can't go anywhere, so they go back to sleep.

784
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they're trapped.

785
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we actually put her. We gave her a

786
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: dog collar, and we leashed her to the wall.

787
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:46,760
Speaker 2: Perfect.

788
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,760
Speaker 1: It worked out brilliantly.

789
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: Can I just write this down so I don't forget.

790
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: Please everyone listening, please take my testimony. So we put

791
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: Mali in he bed pretty early and it wasn't. It's

792
00:38:57,640 --> 00:38:59,360
Speaker 1: actually like we thought it was going to be a nightmare.

793
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 1: We were like, oh shit, this is going to derail

794
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,800
Speaker 1: bedtimes like nothing else. And it was fine.

795
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 2: I think like with Oscar because we did it. I

796
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: think it's about three years old, which Macey's coming up

797
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: to it. But with Oscar he was so vocal all

798
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 2: the time that you could have a proper conversation with him.

799
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: Like I'm not saying Macy's not as smart as Oscar,

800
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 2: but like I would be like, you want a big

801
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: boy bed and really encourage the big boy bed. Yes

802
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:24,279
Speaker 2: that he was like, this is my big boy bed.

803
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 2: I'm never leaving it. But with Macey, she doesn't listen

804
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 2: to anyone. She's like, fuck this I'm out here or

805
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: even on the cruise, I like woke up. I'm like,

806
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: where's Macy. Look over and she's coloring in at three

807
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 2: point thirty in the morning.

808
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, yeah, it's so annoying when

809
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 1: they wake up in the middle of the night and

810
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,920
Speaker 1: they're like, well, I guess it's time to get up

811
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 1: and start the day early bird gets the work.

812
00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 2: But now she's refusing her sleep suit. She doesn't want

813
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: to sleep in a cot at home, so it's like,

814
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: what's the plan? So that's why it's like, that's why musk.

815
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the only thing with Lola when we

816
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 1: took her out of the cot just meant that she

817
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: was in wake up in the middle of the night.

818
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: We would then bring her into our bed, which wouldn't

819
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: mind which we're into.

820
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 2: It's just your bed's tiny.

821
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 1: How dare you talk about like that in saying that

822
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: last night I woke up flanked by two children. Yeah,

823
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: and Lola was like, I'm in the bunk bed she

824
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: so she left us.

825
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 2: I've been sleeping in the completely separate room at Papa's

826
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 2: house and I've been in the door. It's a really

827
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 2: old house in door handles really high and if you notice.

828
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: That the kids can't get in.

829
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: But also April's like in the middle of the night,

830
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: she'll walk up and open my door. So anyway, we

831
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 2: have had a.

832
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: Lot of questions ash about how to communicate a death

833
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: in the family to the kids. And you may, for

834
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: those of you who come from life on cut, you

835
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: may have heard the news recently that Laura's stepdad, Lenny,

836
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 1: absolute legend of a bloke Neil nicknamed Lennie, he passed away.

837
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 2: I was just like so confused, and I'm like, yeah, Lenny, he.

838
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: Passed away after a long battle with cancer, nine years

839
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:03,359
Speaker 1: brought to the last breath and he's now passed away.

840
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: The kids absolutely love far. We've scorn far and we've

841
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,760
Speaker 1: got the funeral coming up this weekend, and we wanted

842
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: to preempt We were thinking, do we bring the kids,

843
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: do not bring the kids? But I think it's better

844
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: to evolve them. We were pretty up front with the

845
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 1: kids and we explained. We were kind of saying to

846
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: them that Lenny's been unwell for a long time, so

847
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: we were trying to just like we didn't want to

848
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 1: rip the rug from underneath the kids and just you know,

849
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: say hey, fars gone. Yeah, and we were so afraid

850
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,719
Speaker 1: to tell them in fear of them having some kind

851
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:42,879
Speaker 1: of traumatic experiences. A few times with Laura's granddad, he's

852
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: passed away when the kids are really young, and sometimes

853
00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: Marley will be at nighttime and she's like, I can't

854
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 1: I can't get the thought of granddad dying out of

855
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: my head.

856
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,360
Speaker 2: And we're like, fuck, how do you you have mentioned that?

857
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 2: Lowel O'Malley has talked about death a lot like Oscar's only.

858
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,320
Speaker 1: Have you had Have you had anyone passed recently in

859
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 1: your family?

860
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 2: Oscar's had his great grandfather, my grandfather, Billy Wicks die

861
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 2: when he's been alive a couple of years ago. Oscar

862
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: was much younger. But the funny thing is we didn't

863
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 2: really have to explain it to him because he was

864
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 2: quite young. But he was only at one word. But

865
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 2: he started calling his comfort that he sleeps with Billy.

866
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: Oh really literally the day he died, and he wouldn't

867
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 2: even know, which is random.

868
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:26,920
Speaker 1: How old was Oscar when that happened.

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Speaker 2: I think it would have been like two, right, and

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Speaker 2: a bit like even now, there's and foes around and

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Speaker 2: he's like, you know what happened, and we've just been like, oh,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's Billy passed away because he's got the

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Speaker 2: middle name as well, William is Oscar's middle name. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine that. Now. You got me thinking, like

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Speaker 2: the conversation that if you know someone now died like

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Speaker 2: Oscar is so inquisitive, as is Mali there at that age,

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Speaker 2: and Lowell was sort of getting into that age too,

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Speaker 2: where they're like why everything is why. It's like, shit,

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Speaker 2: I can't.

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Speaker 1: So it did help to say, like, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, we've explained that he's been on well for

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Speaker 1: a while, and we're going to go, oh, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I understand that. Yeah. I think it did go over

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Speaker 1: Lola's head, Like, you know, she's only three. She can't

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Speaker 1: really understand the significance of death as you can appreciate

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Speaker 1: a three year old, but Marley really understands it. Dude.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna sound really obvious, but it helps so much

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Speaker 1: telling her on a Saturday morning when we had the

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Speaker 1: entire day as a family together, because you know, we're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: can we tell her in the morning before daycare? But

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Speaker 1: then you know, the thought of then dropping that news

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Speaker 1: and her and then being away from.

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Speaker 2: You have a good day daycare, because she might not

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Speaker 2: process it for another hour or so and then be like,

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Speaker 2: I want to cuddle for mummy or daddy and make

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Speaker 2: sure even even if she's thinking empathetically, which she probably

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Speaker 2: is because she's already thinking about death, she'd be like,

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Speaker 2: I wonder if mummy's okay, and if Mummy's not there

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Speaker 2: to give her a cuddle at least, like you've given

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Speaker 2: her the day to kind of get used to the

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Speaker 2: thought that someone's not around anymore. Like I remember when

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Speaker 2: when Dad was going through that heart attack staff and

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Speaker 2: it was like he was here, and then I was

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Speaker 2: meant to see the kids a day after as well,

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Speaker 2: and they're like where is he and trying to explain

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Speaker 2: to them that he's really unwell, and like, you know,

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Speaker 2: also for like grandparents and stuff like that. When I

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Speaker 2: spoke to Dad about that, Dad was like, I was scared,

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Speaker 2: but not for me the kids. I was scared for

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Speaker 2: my grandkids that I've just like built this bond with,

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Speaker 2: not me, but like the grand kids. So it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's a I'm not going to

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Speaker 2: sit here and say there's a right and the wrong

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Speaker 2: way to go about I think the way you've gone

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Speaker 2: about it is definitely but.

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Speaker 1: We found it having the open dialogue way easier, and

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Speaker 1: especially because there's been a lot of tears in the

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Speaker 1: household over the last week, lots of tears, and you

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Speaker 1: want the kids to understand what those tears are a

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Speaker 1: result of. You know, we can talk about it's okay

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Speaker 1: to be upset, sokay to be sad. So for us

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Speaker 1: being upfront with the kids and being honest with them,

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Speaker 1: it's been so much easier.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because like I said, I don't want to say

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Speaker 2: there's a right and the wrong way because some people,

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Speaker 2: even adults, process everything differently. So like for me, death

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Speaker 2: it's going to sound horrible, is not. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't like my grandfather died. As much as I

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Speaker 2: miss him, I didn't cry. I don't have that. It's

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Speaker 2: just life really, but like and some adults are like that,

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Speaker 2: which I don't know how I'm going to explain. I

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Speaker 2: think I'll just try and figure out when that happens.

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Speaker 1: But if there's any parents out there who experienced it

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Speaker 1: communicated it in a way with the kids that's been

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Speaker 1: received really well, we would love to do your thoughts.

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Speaker 2: Allow if there's an expert out there that's gone, you know,

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Speaker 2: the best way to do it. But like everyone's going

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Speaker 2: to be different, right, Like I was just going to

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Speaker 2: be different to Marley. If I said to Oscar like,

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Speaker 2: you know, blah blah blah, it has been really unwell

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Speaker 2: and unfortunately they passed away. I don't know how he would.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, Marley's had really big emotions and there's

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Speaker 1: a little part of us where we're thinking, are those

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Speaker 1: big emotions right now results of the news that we

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Speaker 1: dropped in her last week? Not sure? Not sure? But yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got the funeral coming up in a couple of days, So.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to Yeah, I don't want to end

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Speaker 2: on that note, but I want to ask a question

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Speaker 2: as well. On top of that weekend funeral versus weekday.

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Speaker 1: Funeral, we're doing Friday.

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Speaker 2: It's a Friday. I'm gonna say weekend funeral.

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Speaker 1: We got Friday funeral Hawaiian shirts. No way, that's pretty

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Speaker 1: cool Hawaiian shirt funeral.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I went to a friend of mine dad's funeral,

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Speaker 2: which his favorite color was red, so we all wore.

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Speaker 1: Red, all sexy. It was a funeral, so Lenny is

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Speaker 1: up there listening in. He was a big fan of

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Speaker 1: the show. Yeah so mate, Rest in peace.

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Speaker 2: Rest in peace, Lendie we yes, and I'm sorry for

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Speaker 2: you and your family to go through something like that.

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Speaker 2: So sorry about all the death chat.

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Speaker 1: to two guys talk about their feelings, Please send it

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