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Speaker 1: My Heart podcasts, hear More Kids podcasts, playlists and listen

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Speaker 1: live on the Free I.

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Speaker 2: Heard it's Will and Woody. Hope you having a wonderful

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Speaker 2: drive home. Not every day you get to talk to

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Speaker 2: a spice girl. Wards, Melanie, seat in the studio, Welcome Melody.

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Speaker 2: She's got brand new music, a brand new record called Sweat,

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Speaker 2: which will be out on the first of May. She

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Speaker 2: could be touring in Australia. But this, I mean, have

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Speaker 2: a listen to this. This is sweat banger track right there,

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Speaker 2: fresh off a scintillating DJ set at Puffed Off in Sydney.

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Speaker 3: Mate, it's great to have you on the show. Thanks

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Speaker 3: for coming on.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for having me. It's great to be here.

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Speaker 5: Do you ever get worried, Melanie about sweat on stage

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Speaker 5: or like I'm just sort of using the name of

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Speaker 5: the song there. Like for me, I get worried about

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Speaker 5: sweating when I'm at the start of sweating, but then

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Speaker 5: once I'm aggressively sweating, it's totally fine. Do you ever

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Speaker 5: get worried at the start of one of your sets

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Speaker 5: you're just starting to sweat?

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Speaker 4: Maybe that kind of through that breakthrough moments is a

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Speaker 4: little uncomfortable, isn't it. It's either it's better to be dry,

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Speaker 4: bone dry or really in it just soaked, sopping, sopping wet.

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Speaker 1: So how far into a set usually do we get

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Speaker 1: to sop down?

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Speaker 4: You know, it really depends. It depends on the environment.

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Speaker 4: After say, you mentioned puffeduff that was a sweaty session.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where does that?

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Speaker 2: Because Woods Woods and I have discussed this before in

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Speaker 2: our podcast. But he's an upper brow. You're an upper

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Speaker 2: brow and forehead goes the forehead goes early, and and

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Speaker 2: that you're an upper brow and lower back and I'm

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Speaker 2: and I'm an I'm an upper back and.

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Speaker 6: Pit pet man.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, where are you? Where does you? Where do you present?

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Speaker 4: First? Okay, let me let me think about this. Do

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Speaker 4: I want to too much?

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Speaker 3: I can move on, don't worry.

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Speaker 4: Know what, To be honest with you, it takes quite

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Speaker 4: a lot to get me sweaty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we were just talking about how fit you are,

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Speaker 2: and I kind of because obviously iconically known obviously as

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Speaker 2: because all the girls and the team are like, oh

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Speaker 2: my god, she's she's looking so jack, she looks so fit. Like,

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Speaker 2: you know, YadA, YadA, YadA, And I was like, well,

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Speaker 2: I wonder if like naming yourself sporty Spies was a

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Speaker 2: little bit of a life sentence in some ways, because like,

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Speaker 2: you know, as soon as you're not fit, you know

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Speaker 3: So is there are you worried? You ever worried about? Little?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 4: Do you know what? We actually didn't name ourselves. We

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Speaker 4: were given our nicknames by Top of the Pops magazine. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: oh really yeah yeah, And there has been times when

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Speaker 4: I've not felt very sporty, but in reality I am.

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Speaker 4: I can't really escape it. You know. I love working out.

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Speaker 4: I've always been into my sports and yeah, and of

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Speaker 1: Literally, given the Top of the Pops named all of you,

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Speaker 1: how did mel Bee all about her name?

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Speaker 6: Scary?

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Speaker 4: I've got a question for you. Have you met Melby?

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Speaker 3: About her the other day? Because a friend of.

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Speaker 2: Ours did a radio show with her when she was

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Speaker 4: So she is brilliant. She's the most fun and I

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Speaker 4: think all of the spvice girls we really embraced our names.

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Speaker 4: You know, we loved it. It was fun and we

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Speaker 3: So did you Sorry, Sorry, just to go back to

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Speaker 3: this moment, I'm interested.

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Speaker 2: Did you is this an article that was read about

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Speaker 4: There's a little bit of a backstory on it. So basically,

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Speaker 4: No? I can't, I can't remember. I actually didn't even

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Speaker 4: remember the story. It was the editor that reminded me.

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Speaker 4: The guy called Peter Lorraine. He is he's a really

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Speaker 4: he's absolutely brilliant. He might manages jesse Ware and Appleton

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Speaker 4: But at the time he was an editor and he

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Speaker 4: what it was. Just such a brilliant marketing. It was

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Speaker 4: like a gift given to us. Yeah and yeah, and

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Speaker 6: Awesome that's so cool.

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Speaker 2: We're talking spy skills now, so we may as well

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Speaker 2: continue if you don't mind, because what do and I

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. Unashamedly, I suppose unashamedly, completely unashamedly,

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Speaker 2: my sister had a Spy Skills City. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 6: In the family car. It was it was all.

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Speaker 2: The way, I know every word of nearly every sum

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Speaker 2: I'm going to say, are you guys I know the

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Speaker 2: thirtieth anniversaries this.

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Speaker 3: Year, will you all be on stage together?

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Speaker 4: I would love to be able to give that exclusive,

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Speaker 4: but obviously I can't.

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Speaker 3: Whoa Okay, wow, sorry.

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Speaker 4: You know, just to clear up that, let's not start

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Speaker 4: any rumors. We are so proud and we're always talking

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Speaker 4: we'd love to get back on stage. I mean some

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Speaker 4: of us more than others. So we're just talking about

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Speaker 4: what we want to do because obviously, thirty years since

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Speaker 4: Space is a big deal. We feel like so it's

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Speaker 1: I heard you in a interview recently talking about the

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Speaker 1: fact that over the years, you guys have always got

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Speaker 6: I've got some audio here. This is This is you

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Speaker 4: It was so important for us to be there for

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Speaker 4: each other to this day. If someone messes run the

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Speaker 4: Space girls, you have to deal with the other four.

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Speaker 6: I just I love that. So that still goes on

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Yeah, I think that will it will always be

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Speaker 4: It's it's beyond friendship. We grew up together. We experienced

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Speaker 4: something so unique together that that those bonds they can

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Speaker 6: That's that's so good.

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Speaker 1: There's been some and I'm not digging for information or anything,

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Speaker 1: but there's been some headlines around Victoria and the Beckhams

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Speaker 1: interested to know, Like, head do you support Victoria through

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I mean as we would with each and

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Speaker 4: all of us. You know, we've all had times in

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Speaker 4: our life, you know, when it's we've had difficulties, whether

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Speaker 4: whether it's professional. We're just there for each other, you know.

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Speaker 4: We check in with each other, make eu other okay,

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Speaker 4: and yeah, lays there to support for whatever any of

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Speaker 6: That's so nice.

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Speaker 2: I suppose that idea of girlpower sort of ties into this.

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Speaker 2: I heard a great story if you could, if you

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Speaker 2: could retell, it'd be great about the time when you

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Speaker 2: when you first split from with your first management.

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Speaker 3: Would you mind recounting.

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Speaker 4: That Yeah, So we'd been working with the management that

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Speaker 4: You know, we were really forming, understanding who we were,

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Speaker 4: but we needed to go our hands on these demo tapes.

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Speaker 4: it was underwear. It was either Jerry's bra or nickers.

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Speaker 4: Can you imagine she was like literally on on the roundabout.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that was like she meant to

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Speaker 6: On the round.

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Speaker 4: Or the Scooby Doo worlds of the Space cat.

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Speaker 6: That is awesome.

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Speaker 3: I just can't imagine. I mean, like, who you are

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Speaker 2: This is actually interesting because you were the biggest thing

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Speaker 2: I suppose from that story. But you know, for us

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Speaker 3: With the CD like that means like you've really cut through.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's one of our lesser democratics, right.

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Speaker 2: That really is typifies who you were, So you're that big.

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Speaker 2: But then, I mean, I might have this completely wrong.

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Speaker 2: You and I suppose all of you appear to still

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Speaker 2: be very well put together, successful, prominent, interesting, down to

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Speaker 2: earth in a lot of ways women, Whereas I feel

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Speaker 2: like that trap of young fame is really different for

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm going to say a lot of the

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Speaker 2: you're just not ready for no one. I don't think

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Speaker 4: If anybody kind of started showing signs of going off

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Speaker 4: All of a sudden, you're you're in the public eye.

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Speaker 4: You know, you're being written about, you being commented on constantly,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your what's the number one piece of advice

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Speaker 2: That's great, Melanie, I want to just touch very quickly

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that feels so weird.

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Speaker 4: No, he's so funny, just the way many Australians would

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Speaker 3: No, I don't know where I didn't.

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Speaker 4: No, he's a screenwriter.

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Speaker 3: Oh cool, wow, okay. So I was going to ask you.

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Speaker 2: Because I mean, I date someone from Europe as well,

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Speaker 3: Once you got together.

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Speaker 4: that that's all good, but it's sometimes it's the things

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Speaker 4: makes me and my daughter chuckle. It's how literal Australians

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Speaker 6: You know, well, what's what's numb? One that comes to

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Speaker 4: The one that that really made us howl was we

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Speaker 6: The thing I call them water bikes.

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Speaker 3: I don't anyone does that Australian. That's that's the Australian literalism.

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Speaker 4: do you know what slide is yeah, I got slides, yeah,

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Speaker 4: but don't you call them slip predips.

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Speaker 4: Slip pre dip. So that that was one particular one,

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Speaker 4: but I'll take you the other one. What do you

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Speaker 4: Dare I say basic?

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Speaker 6: How's how does Chris go your gigs? Is it's a

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Speaker 4: When he is, well, he's my biggest cheerleader, so yeah,

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, they're really cute. Actually, will they gang up

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can see like as soon as they're

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Speaker 3: Every time.

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Speaker 4: It warms my heart. That's sorry, it hurts my ego,

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, mel it's been so nice to talk

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Speaker 2: to you. Thank you so much for coming on Will

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Speaker 2: and sharing so much as well.

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Speaker 4: Generous, but we've got really personal there and in depth.

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Speaker 4: Didn't we mind you listeners? I've got music out