1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:01,360 Speaker 1: Ten CC. 2 00:00:01,880 --> 00:00:04,960 Speaker 2: They're coming to town with the Ultimate Greatest Hits Tour Sunday, 3 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: July two at the Asta Theater. Tickets through ticket Tech 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 2: and Graham Goldman from ten CC is joining us this morning. 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 3: Good morning, morning, Graham, Good morning to you made. It 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 3: is wonderful to well we can see you, but on 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 3: the radio to hear you, and great to talk to you. 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 4: And I'm thinking rubber bullets. Life is a min aestrony. 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 3: Good morning, Judge, I'm not in love dreadlock holiday, you 10 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: leave your fans exhausted, the un of a gig made 11 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 3: so many here. 12 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 5: Well we always say we have we have no mercy 13 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 5: and we take no prisoners. 14 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 4: Love it. So yeah, yeah, yeah. 15 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 5: People have come to the show, are going to hear 16 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 5: well all the hits that you would expect us to 17 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 5: play and more, you know, various album trucks, a couple 18 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 5: of surprises. 19 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: Well, I have to say Life is a miniestrone one 20 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: of my favorite song titles of all time. 21 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,319 Speaker 1: Now ten CC is. 22 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: Celebrating fifty years of recording and touring. 23 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 1: When was the last time you were in Perth? 24 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 5: In Perth not long before the pandemic. Now we toured 25 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 5: Australia and New Zealand. In fact, we left Auckland and 26 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 5: came back to the very beginning of the pandemic and 27 00:01:12,600 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 5: so very much looking forward to coming back to Australia 28 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 5: in particular. 29 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 3: Unreal mat Can we go right back to the sixties, mate, 30 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 3: and talk about some of those amazing songs you wrote 31 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 3: for the Yardbirds and the Hollies and Herman Herberts and 32 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 3: the like over the years. And there's a Yardbirds song 33 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 3: called for Your Love, which I particularly love and it 34 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: was a changing point for an hour and Bnban and 35 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 3: called the Yardbirds. I think was part of the reason 36 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,960 Speaker 3: why Clapton said I don't want to be a pop artist. 37 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 3: But you wrote that song. Was there a chance that 38 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 3: was getting shopped around to become a Beatles song? Is 39 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 3: it a myth? Is that true? 40 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 5: It's a myth, but it's based on the fact that 41 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 5: my manager at the time said we should get this 42 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 5: song to the Beatles. But I did remind him that 43 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 5: the Beatles were doing very well in the songwriting department themselves. Yeah, yeah, 44 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 5: so that yeah, I think that's how that actually came about. 45 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 4: That story. 46 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 2: Biggest songs I'm not in love of course, was huge 47 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 2: at the time, and now in recent times a little 48 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 2: movie called Guardians of the Galaxy has sent it back 49 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: to the top. You have a whole new generation loving it. 50 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: Do you get a real kick out of that? I mean, 51 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 2: obviously it sends them to your other music as well. 52 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: Would you get a kick out of. 53 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, I do very much so. 54 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 5: And it's sort of evident at the gigs that we 55 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 5: do that we were that advanced in our years, let's 56 00:02:28,720 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 5: put it that way. We get people of our sort 57 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 5: of our own age more mature. We get that we 58 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 5: got their children who are kind of approaching middle age 59 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 5: and their children as well. So it's very gratifying to 60 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 5: see three generations, you know, coming to see us. And 61 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 5: of course it's not just because of things like Guardians 62 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 5: of the Galaxy. You know, our songs are being played 63 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 5: on the radio all the. 64 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 3: Time, so they're they're they're in the ether, you know, 65 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:01,959 Speaker 3: we play them several of them every week. Can you 66 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 3: tell me about a song called floating in here at 67 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 3: a beautiful piece of music? And you have more than 68 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 3: just music in common with Brian May from Queen, don't you? 69 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 4: Yes? I do? 70 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 5: Yeah, I wrote the song which was inspired by the 71 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 5: James web Space Telescope. Played it to Andrew my record company, 72 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 5: and he said, the song is brilliant, he said, but 73 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 5: wouldn't it be great to get someone like Brown May 74 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,119 Speaker 5: to play on it? Because Royan is both an astronomer 75 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 5: and an astrophysicist as well as being a brilliant guitar player. 76 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 5: So I sent him the song and he says, I 77 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 5: love this, I want to play on it. And he 78 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 5: was very involved in the making of the record and 79 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 5: it was wonderful working with him. 80 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: Overachiever I reckon, speaking of songs that are still very 81 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: much in the ether, Dreadlock Holiday. Are you amazed that 82 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 2: it became well? I mean, obviously with the lining and 83 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: I don't like cricket. 84 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: I love it. 85 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: It was always going to be associated with cricket, but 86 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 2: are you Are you thrilled forty five years later it's 87 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: still so associated with cricket. 88 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 5: I'm absolutely delighted, I have to say, ironically. I mean, 89 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 5: friends of mine have threatened to take me to cricket matches, 90 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 5: but I've never been to a cricket I know that's 91 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 5: really weird. So yeah, one day, one day, I'll go. 92 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:18,440 Speaker 5: But you know that that line was. Actually I have 93 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,719 Speaker 5: to admit that it wasn't a line that I thought of. 94 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 5: I was in Jamaica and I was trying to a 95 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 5: guy in the in the place I was staying and 96 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 5: talking about sports, and I said, what about cricket? 97 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 4: Do you like it? He said, no, I don't like it. 98 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: I love it, and he gave me the line. 99 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,719 Speaker 5: You know, I thought, I think that's the thing with 100 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 5: songwriters have always got this sort of antennae waiting for 101 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 5: something to you know, they pick up on something someone 102 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 5: says that might be funny or it's a great last thing, 103 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 5: and it's a great line, you know, and I thank 104 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 5: him for it. 105 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the test of time. 106 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: And I was going to think I was trying to 107 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 3: think of a new question to ask all the musicians 108 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 3: that come on the show. And my question is not 109 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: fear with you, because it was going to be have 110 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 3: you ever met a Beatle? And what did they say 111 00:04:58,480 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 3: to you? But you've spent a lot of time with 112 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: Beatle in particular, haven't you? 113 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:02,039 Speaker 4: Yes? 114 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 5: I did, Yeah with Ringo Star. I toured with Ringo 115 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 5: in twenty eighteen. We did two major tours and had 116 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 5: a wonderful time with him and the rest of the band. 117 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 4: It was a great experience. I really enjoyed it. 118 00:05:14,400 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 2: Graham, can I ask, as a songwriter, what do you 119 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: think of the current crop of artists like your age, 120 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 2: Shearon and Adele and Chris Martin. 121 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:25,119 Speaker 1: Do you think they have the staying power of your lot? 122 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: I think some of them will, Yes, I do. 123 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 5: There are certain records that are sort of I think 124 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:33,159 Speaker 5: they're kind of disposable, and they're made that way and 125 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 5: not destined to become classics that will be played fifty 126 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 5: years on by some of our songs. But you know, 127 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 5: there's always something good happening. And when I was like 128 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 5: a young teenager, the top ten, I'd like maybe seventy 129 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 5: five percent of it and now it's kind of rather 130 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 5: less than that. But the whole industry has changed somewhat. 131 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 5: But for us, you know, the songs that we have 132 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 5: have longevity, and that's proved by the fact that we 133 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 5: can still tour playing these songs and people want to 134 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 5: hear them. 135 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: So yeah, the answer the. 136 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 5: Question is, there's not as much I think songwriting talent 137 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 5: around today, but there is certainly is. You know, there 138 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 5: are people that are great, you know, and I mean 139 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 5: d sharing is a good example of someone who is 140 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 5: he just hits the nail on the. 141 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 4: Head with what he writes, and he's prolific. 142 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, and as a master songwriter, how do you feel 143 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 3: about it having to go to court to protect these 144 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 3: use of certain chords which are being used by so many. 145 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 5: Well, I applauded his victory because, as his lawyer said, 146 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 5: there are certain building blocks that all songwriters have the 147 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 5: right to own. And just because something has a similar 148 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 5: groove to something else doesn't mean it's a copy. 149 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 4: It was inspired by. 150 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 5: It, and he, I mean ed proved that when he 151 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 5: used to segue, let's get it on into speaking out loud, 152 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 5: so he kind of admits that. But you know, we're 153 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 5: all influenced by something else. There's nothing truly original. But 154 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 5: obviously we don't want a copy, the copy plagiarized steel. 155 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: But we're all. 156 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 5: I mean, I'm to this day, my biggest influence in 157 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 5: songwriting is the Beetles. But I have I have really 158 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 5: written a couple of their songs many years ago and 159 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 5: sort of realized that I shouldn't have done. 160 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 4: But you know, all songwriters will do. 161 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 5: I think it's quite common you'll do something then you 162 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 5: or whatever your friends will say, I'm sorry, mate, you 163 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 5: can't do that. 164 00:07:27,560 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, too similar to it. 165 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: It'll be obvious. 166 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, George, someone will someone, someone will pull you up. 167 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 3: On George Harrison said if you can put it all 168 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 3: on a computer and it would spit it out. And 169 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: he said that when he got in the trouble in 170 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 3: the seventies. You know, there's no one way of saying 171 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: yes or no. 172 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm sure Joe was not conscious of the fact 173 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 5: that he was that. You know, my sweet Lord was 174 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 5: so similar to He's so fine. 175 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 4: But there you go. But you know he owned up 176 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:54,559 Speaker 4: to it and shared the arts. 177 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 2: So Graham, I've got to ask you one question or 178 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: you need to do is say yes or no. But 179 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 2: over the years, I've been told various accounts of why 180 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: the band was called ten C C. Is it the 181 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 2: story I've heard that's made me blush? 182 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 4: That story, that story, the story you've heard that made 183 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 4: you blush? 184 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: Yes, just to wear the name Temps. 185 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 5: Is something that we adopted because it was more fun 186 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 5: than the real reason and wouldn't make you blush. 187 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: Yes, if you know, you know, we'll leave it at that. 188 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 4: I know exactly what you're talking about. 189 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: We'll let people look that up. 190 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Well, it's been a real pleasure to talk 191 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,719 Speaker 3: to you and we look forward to hearing those hits. 192 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: Are and third yes on July the second that the ASTA. 193 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Lovely to talk to you, Graham. 194 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 4: Okay, lovely to talk to you too. Thank you so much,