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Speaker 1: Mom always always said, be careful love those alum boys.

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Speaker 1: like a paper too.

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Speaker 2: Oh no no no, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Then the knowledge dalling.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, it's a leafal thoughts that'll bring you down trying

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Speaker 1: to get your tipsy like god, drink love drunk girls.

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Speaker 2: Oh yes, he's back back again, back again, laya clayon.

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Speaker 3: Teller friend. Then guess is that chism? Excuse?

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Speaker 2: Oh ay, that was so of course, I know. Where's hi.

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Speaker 2: I'm Amanda and I'm Rumby.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to It's it's a.

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Speaker 2: We're in a long distance friendship that started twenty years

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Speaker 2: ago when we were in high school.

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Speaker 4: We'll be talking all things life, love, family, anything and

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Speaker 4: everything else under the sun.

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Speaker 2: Delve deeper with us because of like you know, it's.

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Speaker 3: It's layered.

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Speaker 2: It's layered. Life is layered. How are you.

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Speaker 3: I'm good, my love.

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Speaker 4: I'm sleeping on some tea because I've been partying a

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Speaker 4: bit too much.

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Speaker 3: How are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm good? And yeah, just it feels like we're just

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Speaker 4: My heart goes out to you guys, like, because life

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Speaker 4: That's probably the only thing and the why is everything

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I enjoy it for us, girl, enjoy it because

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Speaker 2: yeah it's weird, but there'll are be what can we do?

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Speaker 4: We're really are singing today, like we're really in our singing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in our fields, in our.

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Speaker 3: Mood the way up to during your hiatus, my love.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy to think we were we've been on a

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Speaker 2: but it also feels like the three months. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so after Christmas, just New Years at home,

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Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit about that, but yeah, that's

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Speaker 3: From it was a different Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Yes, very different, very different New Years, like just partying

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Speaker 3: Boys and boys.

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Speaker 4: So it's and in the day's advice, right, you can

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Speaker 3: But yeah, have you ever been led astrayed by a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred person, Like if ever I've been given

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's what Whitney was trying to say,

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Speaker 3: Be like, I got other issues. I'm good, you know,

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Speaker 4: And then I'm with bus these who like away light

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Speaker 4: Kissing, Like yeah, so like of course you're getting all

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Speaker 4: Yes, you know, people are looking at you like, dude,

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Speaker 4: I never you never really got to date it like

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Speaker 4: It's like it's not the same as holding hands in

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Speaker 4: Bit out of my depth to begin with, and I

441
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 4: just ended up thinking, you know, I have to do

442
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 4: what's true to me. So yeah, maybe not all girls

443
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 4: tell guys that they don't want to, you know, sleep

444
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 4: together in the first couple of months or whatever, but

445
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 4: That's what I'm going to do.

446
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe girls what fine with having? Why might stands?

447
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 4: And if I feel like I'll do Like I just

448
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: felt like I had to learn my voice really quickly.

449
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 4: Twenties is a weird age because half of you are

450
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 4: like career driven, then the other half are like, oh

451
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 4: I'm twenty, I should have kids.

452
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 3: And what people they expect. So I was always like oscillating,

453
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: like which would why? Yeah?

454
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I found that, Yeah, thirties is nice.

455
00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 3: Nice.

456
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 4: I can just trust myself. I know myself, I you

457
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 4: know happens.

458
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 2: You've always had a strong sense of self, as you said,

459
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: like even when you were younger, like it felt like

460
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: there was like a line outside Amanda's door for people

461
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 2: seeking like Amanda's advice because she just she was that person.

462
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 2: And I remember, you know, as having conversations about you,

463
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 2: your own outlet, if that makes sense, like having that

464
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 2: space to also just be. And I think it's the

465
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 2: nature of being an EmPATH, nature of being a listener,

466
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 2: as you've said, but like yeah, yeah, but you give

467
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: me And that's.

468
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 4: Maybe that's why my twenties were good, because I then

469
00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 4: did get.

470
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 2: Good trust yeah yeah, to be somebody yeah, and then

471
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: but still had that.

472
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 4: Yeah.

473
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so it's so interesting.

474
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 4: But in all of this, are there any friends that

475
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: you wish you hadn't lost, like or that you didn't

476
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 4: see eye to eye with on issue?

477
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had that. I've had situations, you know, at

478
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 2: a friendship that disintegrated because I was able to compartmentalize

479
00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 2: my life and not make everything about her or the friendship.

480
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: And I remember being confused, like why is this an issue?

481
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,919
Speaker 2: Like I'm not going to bring my drama And it

482
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,199
Speaker 2: just so happened at the time of us having a

483
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 2: discussion about our friendship, I then got a phone call

484
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 2: about I don't know if it was about job offer,

485
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 2: I don't know, it was something school related or work really,

486
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. And I literally switched from like mode

487
00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: of like engaging and switched to a completely like professional mode,

488
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: and I remember that kind of being ticking her off.

489
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: But yeah, I've definitely had friendships I've lost. I think

490
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 2: I've actually lost friendships a lot of the time because

491
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 2: people sought my advice, especially when it came to relationships,

492
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 2: and I was honest in terms of the nature if

493
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: it was toxic or not, and saying my piece of mind,

494
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:29,719
Speaker 2: like take care of make sure you always take care

495
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,360
Speaker 2: of yourself. But then when people want to fall back

496
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: into those patterns of being in whatever toxicity, there's nothing

497
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: you can do. And maybe they felt I would judge them,

498
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: but I think I'm just I've always been the person

499
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: if I give advice, I'm just giving you ask me

500
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: for my honest, you know, advice I was shared with you.

501
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: I will still love you regardless. But a lot of

502
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 2: the time people take it on as like judgment, as

503
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 2: you know, and so I've had friendships disintegrate because of that.

504
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 2: And you know, I strongly I'm a firm believer in

505
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: that there are friends for a season, a reason, and

506
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 2: a lifetime. And it's okay. You know, it's always obviously

507
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 2: sad to see a friendship come through. It's not fun

508
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 2: because there's hurt on both sides. But yeah, I don't know.

509
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 2: I can't say I'm happy the friendships ended, but I'm

510
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 2: sad like it is what it is and something you

511
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: don't really explain. It's just you stop talking, right, Like

512
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 2: you have this you're just like, oh, I used to

513
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 2: talk to this person often and now I don't. So yeah,

514
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: and for you, have you think seen that or have

515
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 2: you lost friends?

516
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,760
Speaker 5: And and I think for me mainly probably didn't come

517
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 5: from giving advice, but probably came from no open communications.

518
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: So when someone was not happy with something.

519
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 4: I've done, or vice versa, the courage to actually have

520
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 4: those sticky, awkward conversations it's easier to go Throughight, let's

521
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 4: not talk to someone. Especially when you're in your twenties,

522
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 4: you don't have that almost it's not an excuse you should,

523
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 4: but most people don't have that emotional maturity to have

524
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,480
Speaker 4: those conversations and hear bad things send back to you

525
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 4: and you say things back.

526
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: You know, so because either with advice you have to

527
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 3: also it has.

528
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 4: To be in a space where it can land or

529
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 4: where it can sometimes but we don't give advice because.

530
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 3: It don't want to be involved like I don't want

531
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 3: to say nothing true, you know. So I think for

532
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: me it's not I don't know.

533
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 4: Losing them is probably part of life, but for me

534
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 4: it's probably always I'm such a like meeting people and

535
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 4: talking to people. So I think for me, the awkwardness

536
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 4: comes when we bump into each other.

537
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, because then it's.

538
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 4: Like, oh, that's so like wat you you know someone

539
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 4: that I used to know and you just look at

540
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 4: someone and you're like, whoa we used to and.

541
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 3: Like now I think it's passed you by the escalator,

542
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: like you know.

543
00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 4: So I think that's probably especially when you're younger in

544
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: your twenties, you're in cliques and groups, and then when

545
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 4: the group disintegrates and it's well like one or two

546
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 4: of you.

547
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 3: Left, it's almost like, wow, how did that happen?

548
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: For sure, Yeah, I must say that I don't miss

549
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 2: that click lifestyle. Oh nope, no, thank you.

550
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: That was It's good for sharing and taxi.

551
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: And then where it's like if you tell someone one thing,

552
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 2: then the other one finds out why didn't you tell me?

553
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: I'm yeah, like there's a lot to manage in the

554
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: midst of whatever I'm going through. Yeah, no, thank you. Yeah,

555
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: oh gosh, yeah, yeah.

556
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 4: Any friends you're glad to have moved on from though

557
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: in the midst of that, because we know we can

558
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 4: always get bad friends.

559
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: Girl, this is.

560
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: Right, this is true. Yeah, I guess I think. I

561
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: think friends that made me doubt myself, question my worth

562
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: or value, especially if I didn't look like them, or

563
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: if there's one thing anyone would know about me, well

564
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 2: I hope they would is that I'm very much about

565
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 2: being real, being myself, like just not trying to be

566
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 2: something I'm not so friends that you know, try to

567
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:37,280
Speaker 2: make me sort of conform to some identity or feel

568
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 2: that I was less than I mean, I don't miss

569
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 2: I wouldn't say I missed that. I can't think of

570
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 2: anything specific, like oh my goodness, and well there is

571
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 2: one situation yeah, oh oh my goodness. This just took

572
00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 2: me back, like where a friend adversity. I don't know

573
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 2: what happened, like when people started hearing things about you

574
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 2: that you're like from where And then she was supposed

575
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 2: to come with a group of friends to visitings in

576
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 2: my family and missed her flight twice. And I remember

577
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 2: my parents being like, how does someone miss their flight?

578
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: Twice happened, and then just after that, just like the

579
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 2: weird tension around that and like, you know, being ignored

580
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 2: and I do not miss that. There's a lot of like, yeah,

581
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: I don't miss them when it's like that uncomfortable, like

582
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 2: you don't really know what was the issue, but they're

583
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:40,720
Speaker 2: supposed to be. I don't no, no, thank you, uh

584
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: huh oh.

585
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 3: For boys, I hate that. Oh who comes between you.

586
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 4: And you're like why this is like, it's not my fault.

587
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 4: He likes me, it's not my fault that happened. But

588
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,720
Speaker 4: at the same time, our friendship should be able to withstand.

589
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: Can I tell you a funny story. When I was

590
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: in junior school, I liked this guy, me and my

591
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 2: like really good friend, like the same guy, and we

592
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 2: went on like some school camp. Did we not start

593
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 2: singing the boy is Mine to each other?

594
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 3: Oh okay Brandy from the Cut go girl.

595
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: And firstly, the crowd was there just being like, yeah,

596
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 2: you know the people who lighting. Is that gaslighting? No,

597
00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: it's not really gas lighting, but like hyping up the

598
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: wrong thing, like yeah, yeah, yeah. All to say that

599
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 2: was such a waste of time, But I'm glad that

600
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: we're still friends today.

601
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: Did the boy like either one of you in the end?

602
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 2: I think he may be, like my friend, I think

603
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,160
Speaker 2: he did, but he ever, he didn't date any one

604
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 2: of us as far as I recall. But what I Yeah,

605
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 2: it's so stupid, but I'm glad we're still friends today.

606
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 2: But like it's just like, oh my gosh, Yeah.

607
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 4: That happens way too often with girls, like letting a

608
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,000
Speaker 4: boy come between, like.

609
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 3: To the point where boys think it's comical. They know

610
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 3: it's going to happen.

611
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: They know they can if you get a boy who's toxic,

612
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 4: they know they can stir the pot.

613
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 3: So it shows how easy it.

614
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 4: Is, right, and yeah, it's so unnecessary, so sonnecessary.

615
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 2: It happens all Yeah, yeah, are you glad you moved

616
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: on from those friendships or any other?

617
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

618
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 4: I mean you know, also when you live in Die

619
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 4: Spotter and we'll go into this, we talk about Die Sporta,

620
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 4: but like you have to really your friends become your family.

621
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 4: So if you want to apply for a loan, you

622
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: want to apply for a house, you want to apply

623
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 4: for you those the next of kin even has to

624
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 4: be your friends.

625
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 3: So it becomes quite.

626
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 4: Important, maybe even a step above when you're back at

627
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 4: home to have good friends because they can lead you astray.

628
00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 4: You need to you can wake up when day and

629
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,439
Speaker 4: you're being deported, you know, like things can be bad,

630
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 4: So like you need to always have that focus and

631
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 4: always do what you're doing and have the right people

632
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 4: around you.

633
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: So, yeah, there's some friendships that weren't serving that you know,

634
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: and I knew that their home situations could be different to.

635
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 2: Mine, so other things I.

636
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 4: Shouldn't compare and go, oh, we're in this together, I know,

637
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 4: right or die because maybe they can go home and

638
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 4: it's not an issue, but it would be so like, yeah,

639
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 4: there's some friendships you had to make that hard decision

640
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 4: where it's like we're on two different paths. We really are,

641
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 4: Like I love you, I think you're great, but we're

642
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 4: just not.

643
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: That's like friends, everybody needs them. I think jay Z

644
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,720
Speaker 2: sampled it with Ray in the music video or something something.

645
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: I don't know anyway, that's just digressing. Yeah, literally, my

646
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: mind just works like that. But would you say that

647
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: you are a good friend or not? And why, Amanda girl?

648
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 3: I think I'm a good friend, but I think I'm

649
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: an honest friend, which then makes us other people the

650
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 3: wrong way. It depends on kind of person you are.

651
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't.

652
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 4: I can't pretend they find it very Oh.

653
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 3: My god, girl known, I'll tell you what it is.

654
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:28,719
Speaker 3: But this is what is.

655
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 2: So true, right because for me it's like I can

656
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 2: not be with a friend who's just a yes woman,

657
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: yes man like And the thing is people, this is

658
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: the other thing. If your friend doesn't just say yes

659
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 2: to everything you do, it doesn't mean they hate you

660
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 2: or they or no. It just means that they want

661
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 2: the best for you and are maybe looking at the

662
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 2: blind spots that you may not be right. And obviously

663
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: it's also about delivery. It's like, you can't, girl, that's

664
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: a whack you know, you know, And I mean unless

665
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: that's how you that's your that's your speak, it doesn't

666
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: work with me. But yeah, it's this yes woman yes

667
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 2: man thing is very very because have you ever had

668
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,520
Speaker 2: situations where you're like, where was the friend? Like which

669
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 2: who like someone help her out? And it can come

670
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: the most basically like what like if all the other

671
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,720
Speaker 2: friends looking fly and it's like, but didn't you couldn't

672
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 2: you just like help them there? Yeah, stuff like that,

673
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: and someone.

674
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 4: Laughs like the boys yes.

675
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 3: Who when I see girls doing that lead astray.

676
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: It's like that movie what is it called Mean Girls

677
00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: or something? Some Mean Girls. But it's like it was

678
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,120
Speaker 2: a new version from a few years back where they're like,

679
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: you always have to have the friend who is uglier

680
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,640
Speaker 2: than you so that you look at you know something.

681
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, but like it's just all those notions just annoy me.

682
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 4: But I think I am a good friend. To just

683
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 4: go back to your questions, but I think I But

684
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 4: I think I am. Obviously I'm not perfect. I have

685
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: things that you know, but I feel like in time,

686
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: as I've known myself, I also know what things. So

687
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 4: sometimes when I'm seeming supportive, I can seem pushy because.

688
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 3: I'm not a procrastinator, so I'm like, hey, let's do this.

689
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be like, hey, it's too much.

690
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 4: So I feel like when you start to know yourself

691
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 4: as well, you also know how you.

692
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 3: Are as a friend.

693
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

694
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm very loyal and very like when I

695
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 3: say I'm supporting you, I will support you. It's not

696
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 3: just a name.

697
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 4: So I feel like those things hopefully put up you

698
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 4: can put up with a little bad things. Yeah, yeah,

699
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,439
Speaker 4: with you sometimes I yeah, I think the cool out nature, like, hey,

700
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 4: what are you doing?

701
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 3: And sometimes people can't be perfect.

702
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: This is true, this is true, and yeah.

703
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 3: And you what do you think about yourself?

704
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 2: I would like to think I'm a good friend, but

705
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, thank you.

706
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: I'm not biased.

707
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, this is an objective examination. No, No, I

708
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: think I am a good friend. I think I always

709
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 2: want the best for people. I always want people to

710
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 2: see what they could be or what life could be

711
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 2: for them. I think where I may not be that

712
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 2: great is I can switch off in certain I don't

713
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 2: know how to explain it, like if I don't know,

714
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 2: I don't have the words to really say it. It's

715
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: like I can give you advice and let you go.

716
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm not going to push you to keep and I

717
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,239
Speaker 2: don't know it's a good thing or.

718
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 3: A bad like auntbility.

719
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: I'll be like, okay, I don't I don't think that

720
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 2: you should do that or this is what I think.

721
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: I'll tell you twice, maybe three times, and then I

722
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 2: leave it. And I don't know if friends are supposed

723
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: to persistently. But I also like to read someone's body

724
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 2: language or read how they're perceiving and saying hey, I'm

725
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 2: not going to force it because, like I said, I

726
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 2: think I've seen how it can drive people away where

727
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: they're like me just trying to tell me what to do.

728
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 2: And then I think I'm also a good friend. But

729
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: you know, I'm also the person if I love you,

730
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 2: I love you, should know I love you. I don't

731
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 2: have to text all the time depending on the friendship,

732
00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: right pick up way I left off, but some people

733
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 2: need that consistent communication. I definitely do try. Like I

734
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: think of someone like, oh my god, I need to

735
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 2: catch up with some and so or text, but the

736
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 2: love doesn't change with me if we're not constantly on

737
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 2: the phone or whatever. But I understand like for some

738
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 2: people it needs to be you know, so I kind

739
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: of have to challenge it. I challenge myself to try

740
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: to reach out and that kind of thing. But I

741
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 2: think I'm a decent friend. I mean, you know, I'm

742
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 2: just here trying.

743
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 4: It's tough and disport to achieve what you're saying, because.

744
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 3: If you're in different time zones, yeah, different, then it's

745
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 3: like you're not going to be able.

746
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 4: For people who do need that, it's going to be

747
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 4: a bit harder, and you tend to see those kind

748
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 4: of friends don't do well with long distance relationships or anyway.

749
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 4: They need that constant. So it just depends also on

750
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 4: the friend. I feel like I have a lot of

751
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 4: friendships where we just pick up where we left off.

752
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,840
Speaker 3: And that's as a result of being here.

753
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 4: Because yeah, when I go to ZIM, I definitely want

754
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 4: to have lunch with the girls and catch up and

755
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,719
Speaker 4: Kiki and I can have a good time. Are there

756
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 4: my friends were probably gonna ride or die for me,

757
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 4: probably not, but I way my friends were being catch

758
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 4: up and have a good afternoon and share to the

759
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 4: bids of life. Yes, And that's because I feel like

760
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 4: sometimes friendships don't have to be so deep.

761
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 3: They don't have to be you know, you also need light.

762
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: You also need to just have a good shooting nobody.

763
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 4: We don't need to be yeah, and showing a common

764
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,760
Speaker 4: ground like for us in the world. All I remember

765
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 4: there's one Christmas we were all home and then we

766
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 4: met for like drinks, expect the whole.

767
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: You know, things like that.

768
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 2: I like that.

769
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 3: I don't see any problem with that.

770
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna go there and have like, oh I

771
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 4: don't talk to that person would like you.

772
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:43,720
Speaker 2: Know, people.

773
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like clicky thing that we were talking about before.

774
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 2: I don't have to have that, just keep it easy.

775
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 2: Are you good at giving advice? Would you say?

776
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,760
Speaker 4: Ah, yeah, I think girls, I think I am ixact.

777
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 2: You need to ask my friends asks you. You are

778
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 2: definitely you get very valid, solid, well rounded advice.

779
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 4: I feel I feel like I need I find it

780
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 4: almost not a challenge, but I like to make people

781
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,560
Speaker 4: think of something that might not have thought. I like

782
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: to almost like a devil's advocate, but in a kind.

783
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 3: Way, Yeah, what if you did it like that?

784
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 2: Why? Why? So? You know?

785
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 4: Because I think sometimes when you're all around each other,

786
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:32,760
Speaker 4: all rub both on each.

787
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 3: Other, you all start to think kind of the same.

788
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 4: So I have someone who's like, actually, you know, but

789
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 4: not in a personal way, just to know, did you

790
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 4: like this?

791
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: So I think that's probably where my where I kind

792
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:47,640
Speaker 3: of come in.

793
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:52,200
Speaker 2: You're very You're very generous in your advice in that way.

794
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,720
Speaker 2: In that also your advice, it feels like you've researched,

795
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: even if it's not a research topic, right, like you

796
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 2: didn't have to, but it looks like you really go

797
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 2: through the let's go pros cons or what about that

798
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 2: you look at different angles, and you also always leave

799
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 2: space for at least me when you give me advice

800
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: to be like, it's your decision, not its like, well,

801
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 2: it's your decision anyway, but I'm just saying, but it's

802
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: your decision, but you leave the space and you trust

803
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 2: your friend to make a decision for themselves and then.

804
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 4: To live with it too, because the thing is sometimes

805
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 4: as well in someone who's advice.

806
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 3: And I don't take it, don't be angry with me.

807
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, people can Yeah are.

808
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:44,280
Speaker 3: You good at giving advice? I'll say yes, yes.

809
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:50,879
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, oh sure, I think so. I think I'm

810
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 2: very much like at least i'll give, especially when it

811
00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 2: comes to like professional advice or like things I'm quote

812
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 2: unquote good at. I'm good at just like listening, look

813
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: at this, maybe look at that, look at the different perspectives,

814
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 2: kind of be like you should X y Z it.

815
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: Never trying to push, I don't think. But yeah, I'm

816
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 2: an EmPATH. So I feel a lot of my friends

817
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,080
Speaker 2: like what they go through. I think at some point

818
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 2: it was not really helping in that I used to

819
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 2: really like feel or carry burdens form of friends or

820
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: have nightmares about friends if they were in toxic Like, yeah,

821
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: I'm that person, So I've kind of had to learn

822
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: to kind of give. That's why I think I give

823
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 2: that space to kind of like not constantly like be

824
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: on the person's back because I know that it also

825
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 2: constantly plays on my mind. You know, I have to

826
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 2: like kind of give them advice, pray for them, and

827
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 2: release it because otherwise it doesn't serve me. But yeah,

828
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: I think I give okay, but I don't really see

829
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 2: it as giving advice. I'm just like, you know, just.

830
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 4: Having advanced to your friend, right, But yeah, and I

831
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 4: think you definitely are good at giving advice obviously.

832
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 3: Like for me.

833
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 4: Living in like an atheist society this life to have

834
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 4: a spiritual friend as well, So like, and that's where

835
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 4: I really really like love that about you because then

836
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 4: it's like you almost ground that, like let's focus on

837
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:30,240
Speaker 4: what really matters.

838
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:34,720
Speaker 3: I get you, And yeah, that's very value.

839
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 2: Thank you, Thank you, Mama Sita. So since you're so

840
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: great an advice sister girl, can you give the people

841
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 2: some advice? And twenty turning on because we all be

842
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 2: needing it.

843
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 4: Twenty twenty one is strapped up, get Ready for the right.

844
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 3: That's all that goes that eight oh, vas, don't you

845
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 3: be thinking your dog?

846
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 2: The bullet remade last literally me, Like I.

847
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 4: Think for me, twenty twenty one has been for someone

848
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 4: who's a serial planner or like putting things down.

849
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 3: I've let that go, like just go with the flow.

850
00:48:16,239 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: There's a cha chamuca, like whatever is there is there

851
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 4: and like deal with that.

852
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: And also be wise.

853
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people saying twenty twenty they

854
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 4: didn't travel much and stuff.

855
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 3: So finances and all that stuff was the time to

856
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 3: if you were lucky enough to actually still be in

857
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 3: your drops.

858
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, to be for Yeah.

859
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

860
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 4: So I feel like there's like a lot of different

861
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 4: things at play twenty twenty one.

862
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 3: It's just strap up.

863
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 2: Yeah you don't if you don't know, I just don't

864
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: came and had.

865
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 4: Even when people are doing like the New Year's Resolutions,

866
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 4: also said Lord, thank you for another day.

867
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 3: Like yes, I just don't.

868
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: I think, let's see, I think I have to even

869
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 2: remind myself like you're still in a pandemic, you realize that,

870
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:19,480
Speaker 2: like anytime I get too hard on myself and I'm

871
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 2: talking to myself as I'm saying this, but it's like,

872
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 2: just remember you're also living through a crisis and life

873
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 2: is not normal. It hasn't been. But it's like you

874
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 2: be kinder to yourself. That's something I need to always

875
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 2: try to say to myself and I'm not good at it,

876
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 2: but I think be kind of to yourself.

877
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,360
Speaker 3: Stay ready, stay ready.

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00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:53,760
Speaker 2: Gotta stay ready. Oh okay, sorry, I really have been singing.

879
00:49:53,800 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 2: Made happened? So before we go, I just wanted to

880
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 2: give some love to fellow zim Bow. I think it'll

881
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:11,920
Speaker 2: be cool. Hopefully we can keep this up. Who are

882
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,239
Speaker 2: we shouting out today, Amanda? Who are we shouting out today? Well?

883
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,719
Speaker 3: This is someone Ruby introduced me to. Thank you Spotify.

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Speaker 3: He'llsy and this.

885
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's such a good. It was such a

886
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,479
Speaker 2: nice like find because top to bottom you can listen

887
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: to that. K has all the vibes. I like how

888
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 2: he collaborated with different artists, even from East Africa. I

889
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,320
Speaker 2: want to say, why see where is Why is he

890
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: from Nigeria? I think it's yeah, let's not, let's not.

891
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:54,920
Speaker 2: But he collaborated these different people just like production quality

892
00:50:56,000 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: songs like yeah, like it was good. I love us.

893
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 2: This morning I just had him was his and Gema's

894
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:07,919
Speaker 2: song in my Head like on repeat, which is good,

895
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 2: but yeah, our faves also shashaus on it like it

896
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 2: was just such a hollid body of work. So shout

897
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:20,759
Speaker 2: out to you, he'lly and yeah, I love Yeah. I

898
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 2: guess this is the end of episode one, season two.

899
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,879
Speaker 2: We did it, We'll bad. Mama Dreams was like, when

900
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 2: is season I've read recording.

901
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 3: I'm like, I think people are ready before we were ready.

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00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:40,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to y'all. Thank you

903
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,919
Speaker 2: so much that you're still mean to hear us chop

904
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Speaker 2: it up for whatever reason you guys can hear us

905
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 2: chop it up. Grateful, so so grateful, and we look

906
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,160
Speaker 2: forward to rocking with you season two. All right, take

907
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 2: care everybody.

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Speaker 1: Oh aye, it's a little thoughts that will bring you down.