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Everybody online. 0:00:11.030 --> 0:00:12.690 The Jonesy and Amanda Show. 0:00:12.710 --> 0:00:13.670 Gorgeous Amanda. 0:00:13.730 --> 0:00:15.970 Mistress Amanda is delivering discipline. 0:00:16.050 --> 0:00:17.700 It hurts, but someone's got to do it. 0:00:17.750 --> 0:00:19.830 Bad Amanda, bad, bad Amanda. 0:00:20.030 --> 0:00:21.070 Am I going to see Jonesy? 0:00:21.130 --> 0:00:22.980 And the virile Jonesy. 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:23.560 What a creep. 0:00:23.579 --> 0:00:26.300 I've heard them describe him as a drunken idiot. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:28.520 Stay in school and learn school. 0:00:28.920 --> 0:00:29.600 Yeah, okay. 0:00:29.760 --> 0:00:30.860 Out of the way, Toby. 0:00:30.900 --> 0:00:33.540 Jonesy and Amanda, those are names that you will never forget. 0:00:33.580 --> 0:00:34.000 It's showtime. 0:00:35.880 --> 0:00:37.420 Good afternoon to you, Amanda. 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:38.060 Hello. 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:41.879 What up, my little... That is a great outfit you're wearing, BTW. 0:00:41.940 --> 0:00:43.560 Isn't it a very nice... I love it. It's a 0:00:43.720 --> 0:00:46.790 very nice suit, and thank you. Actually, I'll explain more 0:00:46.810 --> 0:00:49.170 later in the show about... Sure. I got sent this. 0:00:49.250 --> 0:00:50.910 Well, it's about time you got a clothing deal. 0:00:51.130 --> 0:00:52.830 It's not a clothing deal, but I'm very happy to 0:00:52.870 --> 0:00:53.320 be wearing it. 0:00:53.370 --> 0:00:53.810 Okay, good. 0:00:54.650 --> 0:00:57.370 The piano, it was announced at the ABC... They call 0:00:57.390 --> 0:00:59.970 them up-fronts where the shows for next year are announced. 0:00:59.990 --> 0:01:01.290 The piano is returning. 0:01:01.370 --> 0:01:01.710 Yes. 0:01:02.190 --> 0:01:07.160 Andrea Lamb, Australia's most accomplished... Concert pianist will be returning. 0:01:07.300 --> 0:01:07.480 Yep. 0:01:07.959 --> 0:01:08.880 I will be returning. 0:01:08.920 --> 0:01:12.580 Of course. And, oh, hang on, we need the new, 0:01:13.020 --> 0:01:14.980 what are they called? Judgy coaching team. 0:01:15.340 --> 0:01:15.840 Expert. 0:01:16.020 --> 0:01:19.470 Expert. We're very clear that the piano is not a competition. 0:01:19.510 --> 0:01:20.370 They're not judges. 0:01:20.390 --> 0:01:23.630 No, because it's on the ABC. Everyone gets the prize. 0:01:24.670 --> 0:01:28.690 Yes, Brendan. Have you seen the show? It's not a competition. 0:01:28.730 --> 0:01:31.190 The whole point of it is that it's not for professionals. 0:01:31.209 --> 0:01:31.770 I like that. 0:01:32.620 --> 0:01:34.840 It's for humans to connect. Well, everyone doesn't get a piano. 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:36.580 There is that. There is that, though, isn't there? 0:01:36.610 --> 0:01:37.310 What? 0:01:37.330 --> 0:01:38.270 Don't they get the piano again? 0:01:38.310 --> 0:01:40.290 In the first series they did. No, they didn't last series. 0:01:40.370 --> 0:01:40.690 Oh, really? 0:01:40.730 --> 0:01:42.170 I thought they got the piano in the last series 0:01:42.230 --> 0:01:42.510 as well. 0:01:42.730 --> 0:01:42.870 No, no. 0:01:42.930 --> 0:01:46.690 Anyway, what we need is some sort of drum roll. Ryan. 0:01:46.709 --> 0:01:47.209 Yeah. 0:01:47.450 --> 0:01:47.930 Drum roll. 0:01:48.030 --> 0:01:48.270 Okay. 0:01:49.150 --> 0:01:50.790 No, that's just the tribal drum. We use that all 0:01:50.810 --> 0:01:53.170 the time. Give us something that's big, big, big. 0:01:53.190 --> 0:01:55.310 All right, what about this? That'll do it. 0:01:55.660 --> 0:01:56.320 No, that's too big. 0:01:56.980 --> 0:02:05.020 Can I get you the information? That'll do it. Oh, okay. 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:06.050 So I'm the host. 0:02:06.340 --> 0:02:06.530 Good. 0:02:06.830 --> 0:02:10.830 Andrea is one of the experts who watches these performances 0:02:10.870 --> 0:02:12.549 and then we put together a concert at the end. 0:02:12.590 --> 0:02:18.890 It's not a competition. Do you want a drum roll? 0:02:18.950 --> 0:02:21.140 We're going to be joined also. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:21.650 Come on! 0:02:23.340 --> 0:02:26.810 Sitting next to Andrea is going to be Tim Friedman 0:02:26.889 --> 0:02:27.609 from the Whitlam. 0:02:27.630 --> 0:02:29.410 From the Whitlam. 0:02:29.450 --> 0:02:30.690 Remember this song? 0:02:31.230 --> 0:02:38.410 I love the pokies. I cannot wait. 0:02:38.450 --> 0:02:40.109 He's a very accomplished pianist. 0:02:40.169 --> 0:02:40.489 Yes. 0:02:40.669 --> 0:02:42.750 I've met him before when I was sitting, I sat 0:02:42.790 --> 0:02:44.870 next to him once at a Loll Lovett concert. He 0:02:44.910 --> 0:02:46.970 is the nicest guy. I'm so excited. 0:02:47.010 --> 0:02:48.389 He's going to be brilliant. Do you know Nicky's Salt 0:02:48.410 --> 0:02:49.030 and Million Chips? 0:02:49.370 --> 0:02:49.670 Why? 0:02:49.810 --> 0:02:51.089 We have a tendency to do that. 0:02:51.740 --> 0:02:53.000 Why would I steal salt and vinegar chips? 0:02:53.020 --> 0:02:54.859 Well, you're sitting there and I love it and he's 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:56.590 got his chips and you say, can I have a chip? 0:02:56.990 --> 0:02:57.250 No. 0:02:57.710 --> 0:02:58.730 You just do that with me then. 0:02:58.750 --> 0:03:00.210 Yeah, and I think I took some of his beer. 0:03:01.650 --> 0:03:04.590 But this is very exciting. So let me bang the drum. 0:03:04.650 --> 0:03:07.660 Not the drum roll for the piano. 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:07.740 No. 0:03:08.440 --> 0:03:11.519 Logie nominated The Piano. It's one of the most incredible 0:03:11.560 --> 0:03:13.580 shows I've ever been associated with and I'm thrilled it's 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:14.440 coming back next year. 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:16.140 If it's got you, it's good. 0:03:16.160 --> 0:03:16.620 Okay. 0:03:16.740 --> 0:03:17.680 That's all I care about. 0:03:17.700 --> 0:03:18.930 That's what the ad should say. 0:03:18.940 --> 0:03:21.260 You is good. If it's got you, it's good. Well, 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:22.480 this is exciting news. 0:03:22.500 --> 0:03:23.380 It is exciting news. 0:03:23.460 --> 0:03:24.540 You know what else is exciting? 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:24.850 Tell me. 0:03:25.220 --> 0:03:27.820 Trini is going to be joining us. Trini Woodall from 0:03:27.870 --> 0:03:28.760 Trini and Susanna. 0:03:28.820 --> 0:03:31.970 Well, Trini and Susanna many years ago. Trini has created 0:03:31.990 --> 0:03:33.730 an incredible empire all on her own. 0:03:33.850 --> 0:03:36.350 Remember What Not To Wear. They'd go into the high 0:03:36.410 --> 0:03:38.230 street and they'd say, oh, that looks terrible. And your 0:03:38.370 --> 0:03:40.530 bra's awful. It was a lot of bra stuff. 0:03:40.550 --> 0:03:43.130 They'd make people, you know, come and show their undies. 0:03:43.590 --> 0:03:45.910 Not today, hopefully. No, please. 0:03:46.050 --> 0:03:47.230 You've got your good undies on, Brendan. 0:03:47.250 --> 0:03:49.029 Because it's Commando Thursday for the J-Dog. 0:03:54.190 --> 0:03:55.370 Drumroll, please. 0:03:55.430 --> 0:03:58.710 Instagram. And we can't do anything until we do the 0:03:58.770 --> 0:03:59.170 fast five. 0:03:59.230 --> 0:04:00.930 Would you like to play? Give us a call. 0:04:00.930 --> 0:04:00.990 135522. 0:04:00.970 --> 0:04:01.460 On gold. 0:04:01.500 --> 0:04:02.060 Damnation. 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:02.760 Let's do it. 0:04:02.840 --> 0:04:08.440 How fast can this thing go? Faster than the speed 0:04:08.690 --> 0:04:09.230 of light. 0:04:09.270 --> 0:04:10.470 Jonesy and Amanda. Stop. 0:04:11.880 --> 0:04:14.380 For you, we have the Fast Five. Five questions. Can 0:04:14.420 --> 0:04:17.190 you go all the way and answer all five questions correctly? 0:04:17.230 --> 0:04:18.810 If you do that, Amanda will say... You will get. 0:04:18.850 --> 0:04:20.670 Sorry, I spoke over the end of you, Brendan. 0:04:21.150 --> 0:04:21.870 This is a first? 0:04:21.950 --> 0:04:23.870 I meant to speak over the beginning and the middle 0:04:23.930 --> 0:04:24.370 as well. 0:04:24.490 --> 0:04:26.130 Well, how would that change from any other day? 0:04:26.270 --> 0:04:28.290 You will get a $ 300 meat tray. 0:04:28.930 --> 0:04:30.250 Lisa's in Carolyn Springs. 0:04:30.430 --> 0:04:31.110 Hi, Lisa. 0:04:32.070 --> 0:04:32.710 How are you? 0:04:32.830 --> 0:04:35.110 Very well. Here's question one. It's not to do with meat. 0:04:35.130 --> 0:04:37.630 It's to do with chocolate. What chocolate comes in a 0:04:37.710 --> 0:04:48.490 series of triangular segments? Oh, Ryan's quick with the buzzer. 0:04:48.890 --> 0:04:51.029 Sorry, Lisa. Claudia is in Werribee. 0:04:51.170 --> 0:04:53.170 Hello, Claudia. Do you know what chocolate comes in a 0:04:53.190 --> 0:04:55.970 series of triangular segments? It's making me hungry thinking of this. 0:04:57.350 --> 0:04:57.930 Oh, I do. 0:04:57.990 --> 0:04:59.510 I think it's Toblerone. 0:04:59.529 --> 0:05:00.510 It is indeed. 0:05:00.540 --> 0:05:02.810 I like the really big ones. You know the really big, 0:05:02.890 --> 0:05:03.419 big ones? 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:03.799 Yeah. 0:05:04.300 --> 0:05:06.779 And each triangle's the side of an actual alpine. 0:05:06.820 --> 0:05:08.780 Yeah, you've got to get, like, someone to go and... 0:05:09.230 --> 0:05:10.470 scale the north face of it. 0:05:10.470 --> 0:05:11.500 Yeah. Delish. 0:05:11.830 --> 0:05:13.060 Let's play Cover Me, Claudia. 0:05:13.180 --> 0:05:13.720 Cover me. 0:05:13.839 --> 0:05:16.700 Cover me. I got your cover, boss. 0:05:16.980 --> 0:05:20.800 This is a country cover by the Pigs of what song? 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:20.990 Oh. 0:05:21.080 --> 0:05:21.200 Oh. 0:05:38.390 --> 0:05:41.029 Oh, we should put together just all the noises people make. 0:05:41.089 --> 0:05:42.450 Just the groans and grunts. 0:05:42.850 --> 0:05:43.030 Oh. 0:05:43.810 --> 0:05:45.390 That is question number two. 0:05:45.550 --> 0:05:47.010 Do we go further? 0:05:47.029 --> 0:05:47.610 Do you want to? 0:05:47.670 --> 0:05:47.990 Sure. 0:05:48.010 --> 0:05:48.630 I don't mind. 0:05:48.830 --> 0:05:49.650 Alison's in Oatley. 0:05:49.690 --> 0:05:50.280 Hi, Alison. 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:51.700 Hello. 0:05:51.839 --> 0:05:52.179 Hello. 0:05:52.220 --> 0:05:53.419 Have a listen to this, why don't you? 0:05:53.520 --> 0:05:55.300 Alison, that's the pigs performing what song? 0:05:55.339 --> 0:05:55.779 I have no clue. 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:55.920 Alison. 0:05:55.940 --> 0:05:56.400 Alison. 0:06:08.670 --> 0:06:11.190 Could you at least make a grunty noise in response? 0:06:11.270 --> 0:06:11.650 Well. 0:06:12.690 --> 0:06:13.360 All right, well, that's it. 0:06:13.370 --> 0:06:15.110 Oh, that's a sigh. We're going to sigh from this. 0:06:16.190 --> 0:06:17.690 That's question number two. Give us a call. 0:06:17.770 --> 0:06:19.450 Don't give up. Jam Nation. 0:06:19.910 --> 0:06:20.490 Let's do it. 0:06:20.510 --> 0:06:21.850 We're fast in this thing, girl. 0:06:22.130 --> 0:06:23.469 Faster than the speed of light. 0:06:23.490 --> 0:06:24.610 Jonesy and Amanda. 0:06:24.710 --> 0:06:26.070 Fast Five. 0:06:26.130 --> 0:06:28.729 We're into the Fast Five for the uninitiated. This is 0:06:28.790 --> 0:06:30.750 a wake-up session for your brain at this time of 0:06:30.770 --> 0:06:31.230 the afternoon. 0:06:31.250 --> 0:06:32.860 Yeah, you can have a biscuit and a cup of 0:06:32.920 --> 0:06:34.120 tea or you can just listen to us. 0:06:34.390 --> 0:06:35.820 Rebecca is in Parramatta. 0:06:35.900 --> 0:06:40.170 Hello, Rebecca. Good afternoon. Hello, we're playing Cover Me. 0:06:40.230 --> 0:06:40.589 Cover Me. 0:06:40.750 --> 0:06:41.830 Cover Me. 0:06:42.510 --> 0:06:42.990 Cover Me. 0:06:43.010 --> 0:06:44.230 I got you covered, boss. 0:06:44.250 --> 0:06:46.870 This is a country band called The Pigs. What song 0:06:46.890 --> 0:06:47.409 are they singing? 0:06:47.610 --> 0:06:48.290 We love The Pigs. 0:06:48.310 --> 0:06:49.450 Do you know the song, Rebecca? 0:06:49.470 --> 0:06:51.570 Single Ladies Put A Ring On It by Beyonce. 0:06:51.740 --> 0:06:52.360 Yes, it is. 0:07:08.230 --> 0:07:13.170 Straight to it is our Rebecca. The first television rerun 0:07:13.450 --> 0:07:16.310 was an episode of which show, Rebecca? This is multiple choice. 0:07:16.670 --> 0:07:21.660 Was it A, I Love Lucy, B, Looney Tunes, or C, 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:23.620 The Bobby Lim Show? 0:07:25.780 --> 0:07:26.540 Bobby Lim Show? 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:28.860 No, it wasn't The Bobby Lim Show. 0:07:28.940 --> 0:07:30.780 I'm just impressed you remember Bobby Lim. 0:07:31.930 --> 0:07:32.230 I do. 0:07:32.490 --> 0:07:32.700 Yeah. 0:07:33.330 --> 0:07:33.790 Pick a box? 0:07:34.010 --> 0:07:34.730 Bobby and Dawn. 0:07:35.390 --> 0:07:36.690 And there was Pick a Box. 0:07:36.710 --> 0:07:37.000 Pick a box. 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:38.180 Was that Bobby? 0:07:38.920 --> 0:07:42.580 No, that was Bob and Dolly, wasn't it? 0:07:42.740 --> 0:07:43.800 Who was Bob and Dolly? 0:07:43.840 --> 0:07:45.000 Bob Dyer and Dolly Dyer. 0:07:45.020 --> 0:07:47.040 All right, and then what was the premise of Pick 0:07:47.060 --> 0:07:48.660 a Box? You had to pick a box. 0:07:48.740 --> 0:07:51.160 Yeah, it's like a quiz show. 0:07:51.560 --> 0:07:52.990 These days it's called Love Island. 0:07:54.190 --> 0:07:56.790 Aye. And behind every box is crabs. 0:07:56.910 --> 0:07:58.470 Dean is in Ivanhoe. 0:07:58.510 --> 0:07:58.770 Hello, Dean. 0:07:58.790 --> 0:08:00.710 How are you going? 0:08:00.990 --> 0:08:01.490 Very well. 0:08:01.530 --> 0:08:04.110 The first television rerun was an episode of which show? 0:08:04.150 --> 0:08:05.870 Was it I Love Lucy or Looney Tunes? 0:08:08.510 --> 0:08:09.490 I'll go I Love Lucy. 0:08:09.550 --> 0:08:09.929 It was. 0:08:10.150 --> 0:08:14.070 The series was shot on film, 35mm, so the episodes 0:08:14.090 --> 0:08:16.650 were able to be preserved. Before that, a show was 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.760 shown once and that was it, disappeared into the ether. 0:08:19.060 --> 0:08:20.780 That's why we can't even get stuff on YouTube. 0:08:20.940 --> 0:08:23.540 Yeah, yeah, yeah, because didn't that happen with Beyond 2000? 0:08:23.540 --> 0:08:24.780 They lost a couple of episodes. 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:26.800 Just a couple of episodes. 0:08:26.820 --> 0:08:29.060 They didn't preserve them. They should be in the Smithsonian. 0:08:29.080 --> 0:08:33.380 The great work of you. According to Aussie Bird Count, 0:08:33.770 --> 0:08:37.610 what is Australia's most commonly spotted bird deemed? 0:08:40.460 --> 0:08:42.440 Oh, I'd have to go with a seagull. 0:08:42.460 --> 0:08:44.140 No. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:44.660 You'd think. 0:08:44.679 --> 0:08:45.780 You'd think so, but no. 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:46.560 Laura's an elfin. 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:50.440 Laura, do you know Australia's most commonly spotted bird according 0:08:50.460 --> 0:08:55.200 to the Aussie Bird Count? Would that be a magpie? Yeah, 0:08:55.220 --> 0:08:56.540 it's a magpie. Here it is here. 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.260 There it is. 0:08:58.520 --> 0:09:00.760 And then it swoops into your eyeballs. 0:09:00.790 --> 0:09:03.069 Can I just say, in my life, I've never been 0:09:03.150 --> 0:09:04.309 swooped by a magpie. 0:09:04.550 --> 0:09:04.969 Really? 0:09:05.090 --> 0:09:07.209 I don't know why that is. I've walked in swooping 0:09:07.330 --> 0:09:09.190 areas and they don't swoop me. 0:09:09.610 --> 0:09:13.230 Are you a man of the birds? What HR said. 0:09:13.270 --> 0:09:18.309 Birds never swoop me. You know, you're painting a dreadful 0:09:18.350 --> 0:09:18.809 picture of me. 0:09:18.830 --> 0:09:19.650 Question five. 0:09:19.690 --> 0:09:20.210 Here we go. 0:09:20.230 --> 0:09:21.189 Here we are now, Laura. 0:09:21.530 --> 0:09:24.610 Tim Friedman from the Whitlums. You know Tim Friedman from 0:09:24.650 --> 0:09:25.410 the Whitlums? 0:09:26.429 --> 0:09:26.650 Yes. 0:09:27.730 --> 0:09:31.390 He's joining Andrea Lamb and our very own Amanda on 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:35.580 season three of which hugely successful TV show? 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:38.250 Um.... 0:09:39.900 --> 0:09:41.660 Joining yourself and Amanda, was it? 0:09:41.820 --> 0:09:42.380 No, not me. 0:09:42.460 --> 0:09:42.939 No, no. 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.660 No, Amanda and I don't work on TV. That's been deep. 0:09:45.740 --> 0:09:46.360 Oh, come on. 0:09:46.520 --> 0:09:47.679 It's been well documented. 0:09:47.710 --> 0:09:50.050 Now, Andrea Lamb and I have been doing this for 0:09:50.110 --> 0:09:52.790 two seasons. This is season three. Who's going to be joining? 0:09:52.850 --> 0:09:54.510 Tim Friedman's going to be joining us, but what's the 0:09:54.550 --> 0:09:55.090 show called? 0:09:56.830 --> 0:09:58.510 Oh, no, I'm sorry. I've got no idea. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:09:58.980 Oh! 0:10:00.240 --> 0:10:01.440 Fraser is in Thornbury. 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:03.990 Hi, Fraser. Do you know which show is returning next 0:10:04.050 --> 0:10:07.250 year with Tim Friedman alongside Andrea Lamb and myself? 0:10:09.270 --> 0:10:11.450 Would that be that great show, The Piano? 0:10:11.470 --> 0:10:12.080 Yes, it is. 0:10:12.150 --> 0:10:14.350 It's a great show, Fraser. Thank you. 0:10:14.429 --> 0:10:16.380 Looking forward to seeing it. I think Tim will bring 0:10:16.630 --> 0:10:18.380 some gravitas. He's very good on the piano. 0:10:18.420 --> 0:10:21.240 He's very good on the piano. 0:10:21.280 --> 0:10:25.240 Congratulations to you, Fraser. You won the jam pack. A 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:28.959 $ 300 meat tray. Thinking dinner, you're thinking beef. Choose Aussie 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:33.040 beef for your midweek, your next midweek meal. Well, you 0:10:33.070 --> 0:10:34.910 can have it tonight if you want. Could be like 0:10:35.470 --> 0:10:38.689 Friday Junior, eating meat. It's up to you, Fraser. That's amazing. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:44.500 Fantastic. Thank you, Fraser. Well, coming up, actually, there's something. 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:48.760 My brother sent me something. I'm going to play it, actually. 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:50.300 He sent me a little promo. 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:51.560 He's not made a song, has he? 0:10:52.330 --> 0:10:55.069 Not a song, no. No, no, he hasn't made a song. 0:10:55.950 --> 0:10:57.350 You know, he does community radio. 0:10:57.429 --> 0:10:59.390 He's done a promo. And now he tells you how 0:10:59.429 --> 0:10:59.890 it works. 0:11:00.510 --> 0:11:02.850 No, no, no, no. Not at all. But I want 0:11:02.870 --> 0:11:06.090 to play something that he's playing on air that you 0:11:06.210 --> 0:11:07.490 know will get my back up. 0:11:07.570 --> 0:11:09.990 Why would you do it then? Why didn't you just 0:11:10.010 --> 0:11:12.530 send it to me? I'm intrigued. We'll have that for 0:11:12.570 --> 0:11:13.460 you next on Gold. 0:11:13.900 --> 0:11:16.100 See a whole lot more of Jonesy and Amanda on 0:11:16.179 --> 0:11:16.820 our socials. 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:18.040 Jonesy and Amanda. 0:11:18.080 --> 0:11:19.840 Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. 0:11:20.500 --> 0:11:24.440 When you were first starting out, you did community radio, 0:11:24.460 --> 0:11:24.980 didn't you? 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:25.680 Yes, I did. 0:11:25.990 --> 0:11:28.050 Well, for those that don't know, should we hear some? 0:11:28.290 --> 0:11:28.429 No. 0:11:28.470 --> 0:11:29.850 Let's hear just a little snippety snip. 0:11:31.910 --> 0:11:36.510 You too there from the Joshua Tree album with, without or, with, 0:11:37.110 --> 0:11:40.440 with the, With or without you, sorry, a bit of 0:11:40.480 --> 0:11:46.280 a tongue twist there. Tequila Sunrise before that and Reasons, 0:11:46.400 --> 0:11:48.340 Johnny Farnham, Let It Up First. 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:50.020 Let It Up First. 0:11:50.059 --> 0:11:52.120 You sound older then than you do now. 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:55.530 Back in the day, the kids these days, it's all 0:11:55.570 --> 0:11:58.189 loaded in the Zeta system here. We have a computer. 0:11:58.610 --> 0:12:00.069 Back then you had a record which you had to 0:12:00.110 --> 0:12:03.309 put on the turntable and you had some cart machines 0:12:03.470 --> 0:12:05.420 and you had reel-to-reels. So all you had to do, 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:06.520 you were like a magician. 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:10.320 But not everyone sounded like that. Other people were doing 0:12:10.420 --> 0:12:13.180 those jobs, but not everyone sounded as unique as you. 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.260 Not everyone just walked off the street like you into 0:12:15.300 --> 0:12:18.600 a cushy radio job. People had to do their time. 0:12:18.800 --> 0:12:20.819 Right. I'd done 20 years on television. 0:12:20.840 --> 0:12:23.750 It's not fun. The TV people going straight into radio, 0:12:23.790 --> 0:12:24.310 that's new. 0:12:27.450 --> 0:12:31.180 Well, my brother is doing community radio. Why are you laughing? 0:12:31.440 --> 0:12:33.300 No, no, I think it's good. Hen's coming home to roost. 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:34.140 Well, for who? 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:35.090 For everyone. 0:12:35.179 --> 0:12:39.330 For everyone. Is he allowed to come into radio? Of course. 0:12:39.390 --> 0:12:41.870 Or are you upset? He might end up, no, why 0:12:41.890 --> 0:12:42.630 would I be upset? 0:12:43.179 --> 0:12:46.920 Okay, well, anyway, my brother is working for Bay FM 103. 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.520 When I say working, he's volunteering, and this is around 0:12:49.580 --> 0:12:52.020 the Brisbane Bay area. This is a radio station. I 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:53.020 listen to it when I'm up there with him. 0:12:53.070 --> 0:12:53.730 Is it any good? 0:12:53.950 --> 0:12:55.010 It's really good. 0:12:55.070 --> 0:12:56.550 What do they play? 0:12:56.870 --> 0:12:59.050 They play the length and breadth of all kinds of music. 0:12:59.130 --> 0:13:01.130 They play good stuff. They play our stuff as well. 0:13:01.150 --> 0:13:02.410 That's the beauty of community radio. 0:13:02.429 --> 0:13:02.670 It is. 0:13:02.710 --> 0:13:03.290 It's brilliant. 0:13:03.429 --> 0:13:06.199 One minute you could be playing John Farnham Reasons right 0:13:06.220 --> 0:13:08.040 next to the dead Kennedys too drunk to. 0:13:08.700 --> 0:13:13.370 Absolutely, absolutely. So he's working for Bay FM. And he 0:13:13.410 --> 0:13:17.650 sent me a promo yesterday. He's obviously used AI, duh. 0:13:18.309 --> 0:13:21.500 But he's made a promo for the slot that he's doing. 0:13:22.660 --> 0:13:23.199 Have a listen. 0:13:23.280 --> 0:13:23.880 Let's have a listen. 0:13:25.470 --> 0:13:27.170 Monday, Tuesday, 9 till 12. 0:13:27.150 --> 0:13:29.510 Cameron's got the morning handled well. 0:13:29.570 --> 0:13:31.870 Good news, good music, come along. 0:13:31.910 --> 0:13:37.060 Good morning vibes in every song. Mornings with Cameron come 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:37.560 all through. 0:13:37.580 --> 0:13:38.400 BFM 100.3 for you. 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:41.220 Ask his mum, she'll tell you straight. 0:13:41.300 --> 0:13:43.560 He's the favourite child, ain't that great? 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:47.579 Mornings with Cameron. 0:13:47.640 --> 0:13:47.990 BFM 100.3. 0:13:47.990 --> 0:13:52.329 He's very good. That's very good. 0:13:52.890 --> 0:13:53.189 You know. 0:13:53.270 --> 0:13:54.690 It's a bit tinny, the quality. 0:13:55.070 --> 0:13:58.350 Did you hear the line in there? He's done this 0:13:58.790 --> 0:14:06.510 to Razmi. Have a listen. You heard this line? This 0:14:06.550 --> 0:14:09.270 has been something that's been going on between us for years. 0:14:09.309 --> 0:14:13.790 He'll sign Christmas cards, mum's favourite. It's all, this has 0:14:13.860 --> 0:14:16.000 been the joke for so, and he leaves me a 0:14:16.040 --> 0:14:18.160 text message. Hi, it's mum's favourite here. Give me a call. 0:14:18.700 --> 0:14:20.500 And so I think, well, who's that? I can't call myself. 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.960 This has been a long-running. 0:14:22.380 --> 0:14:25.740 Trope between us. He's incorporated it into Jingle. 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.470 And sent it to me to razz me. He's razzing me. 0:14:28.640 --> 0:14:29.970 There might be some truth in that. 0:14:30.650 --> 0:14:31.070 What do you mean? 0:14:31.110 --> 0:14:34.730 Well, in the 60s, it was a misogynistic world. The 0:14:34.830 --> 0:14:35.890 eldest son would be. 0:14:35.950 --> 0:14:37.870 There's no truth in this. 0:14:38.030 --> 0:14:38.770 The chosen one. 0:14:38.790 --> 0:14:41.170 There is no truth in it. And he says it 0:14:41.190 --> 0:14:42.390 to razz me. 0:14:42.390 --> 0:14:47.369 And she did, you know, she had a fondness for me. 0:14:48.930 --> 0:14:50.050 Like I have a fondness for it. 0:14:50.110 --> 0:14:51.290 Why do I even talk to you? 0:14:51.630 --> 0:14:52.210 Why do I? 0:14:52.590 --> 0:14:55.230 You know very well that you're razzing me now too. 0:14:55.250 --> 0:14:55.670 I am too. 0:14:55.710 --> 0:14:59.670 But how dare he use his radio airwaves to bring 0:14:59.770 --> 0:15:03.400 up this long-held trope between us. 0:15:03.520 --> 0:15:05.800 We are a fully operational battle station. 0:15:05.840 --> 0:15:07.000 I think we need to fight back. 0:15:07.020 --> 0:15:09.180 We need to fight back. Well, let's come up with a– okay, well, 0:15:09.200 --> 0:15:11.100 what do you want? And you obviously– We have to 0:15:11.120 --> 0:15:13.760 have a jingle that states your mum's favourite. Obviously. 0:15:14.140 --> 0:15:15.740 But I think we need to bring out the big guns. 0:15:16.060 --> 0:15:18.340 I think we need to. Let's give it some thought. 0:15:18.540 --> 0:15:18.730 Yep. 0:15:18.900 --> 0:15:23.489 I will start writing something about my incredible virtues and 0:15:23.530 --> 0:15:24.390 we'll take it from there. 0:15:24.730 --> 0:15:25.350 Righty-o. 0:15:26.310 --> 0:15:28.670 I'll list the virtues. I won't leave that to you. 0:15:28.770 --> 0:15:30.010 No, no, I'm happy to help. 0:15:30.030 --> 0:15:31.290 I can imagine what you would say. 0:15:31.310 --> 0:15:33.390 I like a bit of sibling comeuppance. 0:15:33.530 --> 0:15:35.920 Okay, well, we'll do that next. We'll start working on 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:36.700 my revenge. 0:15:37.640 --> 0:15:38.470 Yeah, I like it. 0:15:38.610 --> 0:15:40.110 Jam. Jam Nation. 0:15:40.170 --> 0:15:43.210 Gold, hello there. It's Jonesy Demander driving you home. I 0:15:43.250 --> 0:15:46.430 like using the radio for revenge. It's always good. 0:15:46.470 --> 0:15:48.190 Well, you have a lot of this kind of stuff 0:15:48.210 --> 0:15:50.030 with your brother. You'd be doing the same thing. What 0:15:50.070 --> 0:15:52.990 we're talking about here is my brother is doing community radio. 0:15:53.030 --> 0:15:55.150 He works at Bay FM 103 in Brisbane. 0:15:55.310 --> 0:15:56.030 Is he any good? 0:15:56.380 --> 0:15:59.600 Well, he is. I don't know what you mean by good. 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:02.160 I think he's terrific. And that's very hard for me 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:03.080 to say as a sister. 0:16:03.220 --> 0:16:03.580 Sure. 0:16:03.740 --> 0:16:05.000 I also know he's probably listening. 0:16:05.120 --> 0:16:06.320 Do you think he could take your job? 0:16:07.430 --> 0:16:09.750 I don't know if he'd want to because he's met you. 0:16:09.770 --> 0:16:11.250 That's a joke. 0:16:11.290 --> 0:16:11.530 He does. 0:16:11.580 --> 0:16:12.130 He does love you. 0:16:12.150 --> 0:16:12.570 He loves me. 0:16:12.600 --> 0:16:13.250 He does love you. 0:16:13.630 --> 0:16:16.340 Jonesy and Cameron. Cameron and Jonesy. 0:16:16.520 --> 0:16:17.460 So he'd get his name first. 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:18.100 CJ. 0:16:19.740 --> 0:16:23.400 Anyway, Cameron has done a promo for his slot on 0:16:23.420 --> 0:16:27.440 the radio and he's deliberately included something to deliberately razz me. 0:16:27.660 --> 0:16:40.680 I reckon the jingle's pretty solid. You have a beef 0:16:40.720 --> 0:16:41.200 with this. 0:16:46.740 --> 0:16:51.060 That is a longstanding disagreement between us. He always will 0:16:51.080 --> 0:16:54.300 sign a card from Mum's Favourite and he'll say it 0:16:54.340 --> 0:16:56.320 to my father who's completely flummoxed because he doesn't know 0:16:56.340 --> 0:16:59.330 what he's talking about either. What do you mean Mum's Favourite? 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:04.040 So we have to use our radio waves for revenge. 0:17:04.480 --> 0:17:08.120 Let's write something and then we stick. 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:11.740 It to it and use AI. Okay, well, let's look 0:17:11.780 --> 0:17:13.280 at your attributes. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:14.680 Let's go really over the top. 0:17:15.180 --> 0:17:16.879 Okay, what about this? She makes you smile. 0:17:17.420 --> 0:17:18.310 What rhymes with smile? 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:20.750 She makes you smile. Hang on, let me type that in. 0:17:20.930 --> 0:17:25.670 She makes you. Don't rhyme it with vile or bile. 0:17:25.690 --> 0:17:27.090 What about big pile? 0:17:27.210 --> 0:17:27.489 Oh, okay. 0:17:27.510 --> 0:17:27.730 Okay. 0:17:28.390 --> 0:17:29.490 Because you can't spell hemorrhoid? 0:17:29.530 --> 0:17:32.389 She makes you pile. No. She makes you smile. 0:17:32.850 --> 0:17:36.090 She makes the afternoons wild. It's close enough, right? Oh, 0:17:36.130 --> 0:17:39.189 come on. It's close enough. And what's more, she's the 0:17:39.230 --> 0:17:39.949 favourite child. 0:17:40.630 --> 0:17:42.250 We've got it. She makes you smile. 0:17:42.270 --> 0:17:45.429 She makes you smile, makes the afternoon wild. Because it's 0:17:45.450 --> 0:17:46.760 got to be over the top. We're making all this up. 0:17:46.890 --> 0:17:49.230 And what's more, this is the real bit, she's the 0:17:49.270 --> 0:17:49.850 favourite child. 0:17:49.869 --> 0:17:52.040 You know, people could join in. Feel free to join 0:17:52.100 --> 0:17:55.409 in on this if you want. You could call us. 0:17:55.790 --> 0:17:57.190 Why don't we do this on our Instagram? 0:17:57.390 --> 0:17:57.590 Sure. 0:17:57.630 --> 0:17:58.330 Jonesy and Amanda. 0:17:59.590 --> 0:18:01.310 But we have to include the fact that I'm brilliant 0:18:01.390 --> 0:18:03.489 and Cameron's not. It has to be something about me 0:18:03.530 --> 0:18:04.270 being the favourite child. 0:18:04.310 --> 0:18:05.410 So this is what we've got so far. She makes 0:18:05.430 --> 0:18:06.030 you smile. 0:18:06.210 --> 0:18:08.669 She makes the afternoons wild. And what's more, she's the 0:18:08.730 --> 0:18:09.490 favourite child. 0:18:10.190 --> 0:18:11.150 Well, we need more. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:16.100 We need more than that. How about something like when 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.859 she was born, mum and dad gave up because the 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.970 perfect child had just shown up. 0:18:23.619 --> 0:18:26.320 No, it's a little bit tortured. Of course it's tortured. 0:18:26.340 --> 0:18:28.180 I'm not doing a haiku here. 0:18:29.100 --> 0:18:34.919 Stop. She's Amanda. When she was born, her mum and 0:18:35.260 --> 0:18:37.139 dad gave up as the perfect child. 0:18:37.940 --> 0:18:38.270 No. 0:18:38.850 --> 0:18:39.950 Yeah, it just turned up. 0:18:40.050 --> 0:18:40.770 It just doesn't. 0:18:40.830 --> 0:18:42.949 It's supposed to be tortured. That's what's funny about this. 0:18:43.010 --> 0:18:44.750 It's got to be over the top and ridiculous. 0:18:44.950 --> 0:18:45.869 I'll just say this to you. 0:18:45.950 --> 0:18:48.010 I'm not going to pare it back and make a limerick. 0:18:48.050 --> 0:18:50.970 He's an amateur. We are professionals. 0:18:51.450 --> 0:18:54.400 So- Why don't we get Don Walker in from Cold Chisel? 0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:54.720 Okay. 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:57.340 I've got his number. Let's get back to this. 0:18:57.359 --> 0:18:59.320 She makes you smile. She makes the afternoon wild. And 0:18:59.340 --> 0:19:00.400 what's more, she's a favourite child. 0:19:00.420 --> 0:19:01.199 She's Amanda. 0:19:01.760 --> 0:19:04.280 When she was born, mum and dad gave up because 0:19:04.300 --> 0:19:07.379 I'm the last child, you see, because the perfect childhood 0:19:07.420 --> 0:19:08.160 just turned up. 0:19:08.440 --> 0:19:08.720 Ryan? 0:19:09.540 --> 0:19:10.780 Yeah, I think we move on from this bit. 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:11.199 What else? 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:14.480 What's the next line? I think it's good so far. 0:19:14.540 --> 0:19:14.880 It's good. 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:16.080 She could have been queen. 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:16.679 Oh, okay. 0:19:16.720 --> 0:19:17.080 Hang on. 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:18.480 She could have been queen. 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:19.400 She is a dream. 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:19.520 No. 0:19:19.540 --> 0:19:22.209 How about something else? She could have been queen, could 0:19:22.230 --> 0:19:25.340 have run the world, or president, first for a girl. 0:19:25.470 --> 0:19:26.100 Oh, okay. 0:19:26.260 --> 0:19:28.659 Yeah, it's supposed to be over the top. I know 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:30.199 this is going to irritate you as much as it's 0:19:30.220 --> 0:19:32.399 going to irritate him because it's about me and I'm 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.900 singing my own praises. You're not going to like it. 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:38.120 Why wouldn't I like it? I sing your praises every day. 0:19:38.140 --> 0:19:39.919 You pull a face at every one of these lines. 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:40.770 No, I like them all. 0:19:40.770 --> 0:19:42.990 So the point is, of course I'm going over the top. 0:19:42.990 --> 0:19:44.910 Of course it's BS, but we've got to beat him 0:19:44.910 --> 0:19:45.630 at his own game. 0:19:45.630 --> 0:19:48.960 Jonesy and Amanda on our Instagram. You can put in 0:19:48.980 --> 0:19:49.820 your suggestions. 0:19:50.040 --> 0:19:51.420 All nice, of course. No swears. 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:54.220 No swears. And we'll put something together. 0:19:54.240 --> 0:19:55.660 We'll put something together. We'll keep this going. 0:19:56.100 --> 0:19:58.619 You're listening to the Jonesy and Amanda podcast. 0:20:03.020 --> 0:20:06.700 Trini Woodhull from Trini and Susannah, a big show that was. 0:20:06.460 --> 0:20:07.980 Around that long ago. 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:08.939 Was it in the 90s? 0:20:08.960 --> 0:20:09.619 No, it was 2000s. 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:12.689 But she now has an incredible makeup and skincare empire. 0:20:27.510 --> 0:20:29.830 She's an entrepreneur. She's quite inspirational. She's a big deal. 0:20:29.869 --> 0:20:30.510 She's a big deal. 0:20:30.750 --> 0:20:32.580 I was very mindful about what I wore when I 0:20:32.619 --> 0:20:34.710 came into work today. I love your outfit, by the way. 0:20:34.720 --> 0:20:36.520 Can I mention, this is a suit that I got 0:20:36.580 --> 0:20:40.540 sent from Moto Fashion, M-O-T-T-O Fashion. They sent this to 0:20:40.580 --> 0:20:43.110 me because there'd been a podcast that had said that 0:20:43.230 --> 0:20:47.100 suiting was over for women. And women like me who 0:20:47.140 --> 0:20:49.880 love suits, we all said, I don't think so. So 0:20:49.900 --> 0:20:52.690 they sent me this. This suit, how would you describe it? 0:20:52.730 --> 0:20:54.490 It's a suit, but it's got a stripe down the side. 0:20:54.590 --> 0:20:54.929 I like it. 0:20:54.950 --> 0:20:59.030 Like it's almost tracksuit-y, so it's funky and interesting. I 0:20:59.190 --> 0:21:02.270 absolutely love it. So thank you to them. I'm ready 0:21:02.290 --> 0:21:02.750 for Trini. 0:21:02.770 --> 0:21:03.270 I'm ready. 0:21:04.490 --> 0:21:05.170 Trini ready. 0:21:05.810 --> 0:21:08.310 Well, Trini will be joining us next on Gold. 0:21:09.970 --> 0:21:12.670 Oh, I'm very excited. This woman made her name telling 0:21:12.710 --> 0:21:15.060 us what not to wear. She became a best-selling author. 0:21:15.140 --> 0:21:19.119 She's built her beauty brand, Trini London, from wardrobe makeovers 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:23.040 to make-up must-haves, everything in between, how to be an entrepreneur, 0:21:23.460 --> 0:21:27.360 how to age gracefully. She absolutely has us covered. Trini Woodall, hello. 0:21:27.380 --> 0:21:28.080 Here she is. 0:21:28.200 --> 0:21:30.120 Can I say the radio station with the best view? 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:31.939 Don't we have an amazing view? 0:21:31.980 --> 0:21:32.400 Unbelievable. 0:21:32.420 --> 0:21:34.600 Compared to Chris Evans' morning show in London, which is 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:37.300 like sort of I don't think there is a window. 0:21:37.340 --> 0:21:38.480 This is such a good view. 0:21:38.600 --> 0:21:39.530 It's incredible, isn't it? 0:21:39.540 --> 0:21:39.680 Yeah. 0:21:40.369 --> 0:21:42.070 I've admired you for so long. And one of the 0:21:42.109 --> 0:21:45.750 things I love is that you say your brands are 0:21:45.810 --> 0:21:48.510 for women of all skin types, all ages. I know 0:21:48.550 --> 0:21:51.629 in the fashion industry at the moment, women are really battling. 0:21:51.650 --> 0:21:53.170 If you're over the age of 30 or 40, you're 0:21:53.250 --> 0:21:55.490 not being represented. Was this a big thing for you 0:21:55.530 --> 0:21:56.050 to take on? 0:21:56.090 --> 0:21:57.859 I don't think we're for women of all ages. I 0:21:57.890 --> 0:21:59.889 think there's so much choice everywhere that you've got to 0:21:59.910 --> 0:22:02.860 kind of think, who are you actually for? And your 0:22:02.920 --> 0:22:04.900 makeup could be stuck in the era in which you 0:22:04.920 --> 0:22:06.840 first felt sexy and you haven't moved on or you've 0:22:06.880 --> 0:22:09.080 moved with the times. And I think there's certain things 0:22:09.140 --> 0:22:13.090 that age us by just sticking with the same thing. 0:22:13.109 --> 0:22:17.230 And there's certain ways that we can decide to evolve 0:22:17.630 --> 0:22:20.740 that we just feel that whenever you look at the person, 0:22:20.760 --> 0:22:22.980 you're not looking at them, defining them by the era 0:22:23.060 --> 0:22:26.110 in which they most came alive or by their age, 0:22:26.150 --> 0:22:28.070 but just by what they're like as a person. 0:22:28.410 --> 0:22:31.030 And that's what we underestimate about what makes a person attractive. 0:22:31.109 --> 0:22:34.510 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, but it goes for guys as well, 0:22:34.550 --> 0:22:36.730 like skinny jeans and cargo pants. 0:22:36.869 --> 0:22:37.109 Yeah. 0:22:37.450 --> 0:22:39.830 Like I used to love both of those things, but 0:22:39.869 --> 0:22:40.630 they're out now. 0:22:40.710 --> 0:22:40.930 Yeah. 0:22:41.090 --> 0:22:42.010 I mean, there's two, I think. 0:22:42.210 --> 0:22:44.850 I don't know what it's like overseas, but here. 0:22:44.869 --> 0:22:47.169 This is my view on the difference between men and women. 0:22:47.190 --> 0:22:47.890 What would you know? 0:22:48.230 --> 0:22:50.230 No, and what would I know? But I would say that. 0:22:50.770 --> 0:22:53.929 Women tend to sort of do makeup and dress in 0:22:53.970 --> 0:22:57.840 the time that they felt their most, they first found 0:22:58.119 --> 0:22:58.780 their confidence. 0:22:59.020 --> 0:22:59.660 But men. 0:23:00.190 --> 0:23:03.370 They tend to do it like the first successful sexual encounter. 0:23:03.350 --> 0:23:06.090 And then they get stuck. They get stuck a bit. 0:23:06.109 --> 0:23:08.860 So they stick with that moment, you know, and then 0:23:08.910 --> 0:23:15.800 there's interpretations and derivatives of that. 0:23:15.900 --> 0:23:18.600 It does explain a lot, doesn't it, Charles? 0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:20.760 Do you think what not to wear, would that still 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:21.859 fly now as a show? 0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:22.460 I think it would. 0:23:22.619 --> 0:23:26.399 I think it was of its time. It was a 0:23:26.420 --> 0:23:28.340 good time to have some rules because women were really 0:23:28.380 --> 0:23:30.320 kind of, Help me to dress. And there was a 0:23:30.380 --> 0:23:32.810 lot of judgment around size then. And I think so. 0:23:32.820 --> 0:23:34.220 It was just saying it's not about size, about your 0:23:34.260 --> 0:23:35.859 body shape. You know, a lot of women who were 0:23:35.880 --> 0:23:38.240 slightly larger would tent. And it was like, come on, 0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.220 you have great boobs and a waist. So it was 0:23:40.240 --> 0:23:41.000 very relevant. 0:23:41.020 --> 0:23:43.220 It was very raw. You wouldn't do it today. 0:23:43.260 --> 0:23:46.080 But I think the joy of today and also the 0:23:46.260 --> 0:23:49.919 hardness of today is there's so much more choice. And 0:23:49.960 --> 0:23:51.619 there's so many things which is a trend and then 0:23:51.660 --> 0:23:54.220 it's gone, a trend and then it's gone. But there's also... 0:23:54.340 --> 0:23:56.199 There is this big movement to embrace who you are, 0:23:56.280 --> 0:23:57.180 be who you want to be. 0:23:57.580 --> 0:23:59.740 In terms of makeup, what are some of the big 0:23:59.790 --> 0:24:02.169 mistakes we're making? What's one thing you would take out 0:24:02.190 --> 0:24:04.490 of every woman's makeup purse and what's one thing you'd 0:24:04.530 --> 0:24:04.909 put in? 0:24:05.109 --> 0:24:07.250 Okay, so if you're a post-41, because I'm going to 0:24:07.270 --> 0:24:10.909 do it because I love to help that lady, is 0:24:10.970 --> 0:24:13.010 that if you're wearing the same foundation you wore years 0:24:13.030 --> 0:24:14.909 and years ago, it could be it's quite a lot 0:24:14.930 --> 0:24:16.690 of pigment. You could be wearing it because you want 0:24:16.710 --> 0:24:18.950 it to last all day or there was a practical reason. 0:24:19.410 --> 0:24:21.250 And it could be that you're wearing it the colour 0:24:21.290 --> 0:24:23.710 you wanted your skin to be. Wear the colour of 0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:26.440 your skin. You can have more without it feeling heavy. 0:24:26.500 --> 0:24:26.700 Yes. 0:24:26.780 --> 0:24:27.399 That's the difference. 0:24:27.460 --> 0:24:30.459 And also with the eyebrow like tinting now, like my 0:24:30.500 --> 0:24:33.400 wife got those eyebrows, the tattoo thing. And so when 0:24:33.420 --> 0:24:36.820 you come home, I said, what's wrong? What's happened? Have 0:24:36.840 --> 0:24:38.869 you smashed the car? Has something happened to the kids? 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:41.590 Because they're so severe when they first come in. It 0:24:41.630 --> 0:24:43.490 looks like she's upset with something. 0:24:43.750 --> 0:24:43.930 Okay. 0:24:43.970 --> 0:24:45.670 I just love the way men describe things. 0:24:46.390 --> 0:24:48.730 Because a man will get them done. You'll get them done. 0:24:48.750 --> 0:24:50.110 And I'm terrified to come in because I know. 0:24:50.170 --> 0:24:52.709 No, because I'll say, what's happened? Is everything okay? All 0:24:52.730 --> 0:24:54.030 the women in my life are angry at me. 0:24:54.490 --> 0:24:57.010 I have a few men, though, that I won't say 0:24:57.050 --> 0:24:58.490 who this person is in my life, but I see 0:24:58.510 --> 0:25:03.600 them a little bit often. And I'm quite candid and 0:25:03.670 --> 0:25:06.900 I said to them once, go easy on the hair tint. 0:25:07.300 --> 0:25:09.359 And they were like, I don't dye my hair. I 0:25:09.380 --> 0:25:11.159 was like, come on, just own it. 0:25:11.760 --> 0:25:13.910 Trini, I don't dye my hair. So you can check 0:25:13.930 --> 0:25:14.139 that out. 0:25:14.380 --> 0:25:16.540 Yeah. But what would be wrong if you did? 0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:17.359 Do you know what I mean? 0:25:17.380 --> 0:25:18.230 That's exactly wrong if you did. 0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:20.200 Well, no, because people say to me, young people here, 0:25:20.359 --> 0:25:21.700 they say, you know, you've got a lot of grey, 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:23.960 you should dye your hair. And then I say, no, 0:25:24.140 --> 0:25:26.240 because what will happen, because I'm a man and I'm 0:25:26.260 --> 0:25:28.820 a cheapskate, do you think you can do it yourself 0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:30.180 for free or cheap? 0:25:30.460 --> 0:25:30.740 Yeah. 0:25:30.800 --> 0:25:32.879 And then it just goes orange and then all the 0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:35.390 young people that told you to dye your hair. laugh 0:25:35.430 --> 0:25:36.090 at you behind your back. 0:25:36.109 --> 0:25:37.629 Sorry, do young guys tell you to dye your hair? 0:25:37.650 --> 0:25:38.350 I don't believe that. 0:25:38.369 --> 0:25:39.870 No, young women do, not young guys. 0:25:39.910 --> 0:25:40.410 No, they don't. 0:25:40.450 --> 0:25:41.570 Young women, yeah, the young women. 0:25:41.830 --> 0:25:43.030 Young women come up to you and say you should 0:25:43.050 --> 0:25:43.630 dye your hair. 0:25:43.670 --> 0:25:44.670 No, no, no. They do not. 0:25:44.770 --> 0:25:46.709 I'm sorry, it's not a thing they say. 0:25:46.990 --> 0:25:49.380 This is like a Margaret Thatcher thing. Yeah, sorry. Tell 0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:52.040 me about these people. No, in passing. Tell me about 0:25:52.060 --> 0:25:56.400 these people. In passing, from time to time, women. Once, 0:25:56.480 --> 0:25:58.100 which means? Once. 0:25:58.240 --> 0:25:58.400 Once. 0:25:58.440 --> 0:25:59.400 He had a dream once. 0:25:59.420 --> 0:25:59.760 Once. 0:26:00.180 --> 0:26:00.340 Once. 0:26:01.770 --> 0:26:05.510 People will say, have you ever considered dyeing your hair? 0:26:05.530 --> 0:26:05.750 Okay. 0:26:05.810 --> 0:26:07.410 What is your answer to that then? 0:26:07.770 --> 0:26:09.770 Depends entirely on what your hair is. 0:26:09.790 --> 0:26:11.270 But you've got to go to a hairdresser, don't you? 0:26:11.570 --> 0:26:13.869 Well, I mean, there are good at-home treatments, but it 0:26:13.910 --> 0:26:15.669 depends how lazy or quick you are. 0:26:16.530 --> 0:26:18.130 You see men reading instructions. 0:26:18.290 --> 0:26:20.150 Okay, let's talk about that. 0:26:20.170 --> 0:26:22.689 So, like, if you actually read the instructions, you'd get 0:26:22.730 --> 0:26:24.169 it right every single time. 0:26:24.190 --> 0:26:26.389 But there's a bypass of instructions sometimes with men. 0:26:27.130 --> 0:26:30.439 So I would say some men naturally go grey in 0:26:30.460 --> 0:26:34.379 a beautiful salt and pepper way. But I'm careful how 0:26:34.420 --> 0:26:36.520 I get it dyed, you know, so you don't quite 0:26:36.580 --> 0:26:38.439 know maybe that I dye it. 0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.280 Have you made a rod for your own back in 0:26:41.300 --> 0:26:43.300 that if you want to leave the house hungover early 0:26:43.320 --> 0:26:47.160 in the morning without any makeup on, do you know 0:26:47.180 --> 0:26:48.100 that people will look at you? 0:26:48.140 --> 0:26:49.420 I don't really. 0:26:49.440 --> 0:26:52.200 A hangover is not my thing. But I do feel 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.040 I'll wake up and I'll look like I've slept on 0:26:54.080 --> 0:26:55.659 a bed of nettles. You know, when you had a 0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:57.740 kind of undisturbed sleep and you kind of like wake 0:26:57.800 --> 0:26:59.920 up and you're puffy and you slept flat and whatever. 0:26:59.940 --> 0:27:00.600 So I have that. 0:27:00.960 --> 0:27:03.310 But I do feel every day I want to wake 0:27:03.350 --> 0:27:05.970 up my face with skincare. Like from Amazon, you get 0:27:06.010 --> 0:27:08.609 these eight pound sort of suction cups and I do 0:27:08.630 --> 0:27:10.870 a bit of lymphatic and it just de-puffs my face 0:27:10.910 --> 0:27:12.910 in two minutes. Or like I'm in the hotel now 0:27:12.970 --> 0:27:15.109 and every morning I say to them, ice fleas. And 0:27:15.130 --> 0:27:17.040 they went, you mean the bucket for the shower? And 0:27:17.060 --> 0:27:19.200 I went, yes. So I get the bucket of ice 0:27:19.300 --> 0:27:21.520 and I shove it on my face and I put 0:27:21.560 --> 0:27:24.119 it up and down my legs because we're on a really, 0:27:24.220 --> 0:27:26.510 really tight schedule at the moment. We don't have much 0:27:26.550 --> 0:27:27.780 sleep and it wakes me up. 0:27:28.109 --> 0:27:31.070 Wow, so you're like having almost a de facto ice bath. 0:27:31.390 --> 0:27:34.790 Kind of, but I couldn't get in a bath of ice. 0:27:34.930 --> 0:27:35.530 I couldn't do that. 0:27:35.550 --> 0:27:37.490 But it's also an interesting point you're making and I 0:27:37.550 --> 0:27:40.109 think we underestimate the role that how we feel we 0:27:40.190 --> 0:27:43.440 present plays. You can't mock women for wanting to wear 0:27:43.460 --> 0:27:46.360 make-up or for wanting to wear certain clothes. Because your 0:27:46.420 --> 0:27:48.780 mental health is impacted enormously by those things. 0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:50.800 Yeah, and it's about how you feel as a woman. 0:27:51.400 --> 0:27:54.180 I don't, I never dress for. 0:27:54.119 --> 0:27:54.700 A man, sorry. 0:27:54.940 --> 0:27:57.110 Men, I don't think men dress for women. I think 0:27:57.140 --> 0:27:58.970 they just dress for themselves. 0:27:59.350 --> 0:28:00.190 Do you feel self-conscious? 0:28:00.970 --> 0:28:04.490 What about where? No, not really. Okay, do you? 0:28:05.130 --> 0:28:06.190 Young Ryan? No, no. 0:28:06.510 --> 0:28:08.800 Is it all about the T-shirt and what it is 0:28:08.859 --> 0:28:10.760 like and the texture of the T-shirt or is it 0:28:10.820 --> 0:28:11.560 about what it says? 0:28:11.580 --> 0:28:14.420 Well, I think like, Well, it's what makes you feel confident, 0:28:14.460 --> 0:28:14.760 I think. 0:28:14.780 --> 0:28:14.940 Yeah. 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:16.920 Yeah. You know what I loved is that Ryan went 0:28:16.940 --> 0:28:18.699 overseas and how much, I hope you don't mind me 0:28:18.740 --> 0:28:21.310 saying this, he bought a beautiful jacket and it was 0:28:21.369 --> 0:28:23.920 incredibly expensive. And Brett Jonesy. 0:28:23.920 --> 0:28:25.300 $ 2, 000. 0:28:24.380 --> 0:28:25.230 Yeah, it was $ 2, 000. 0:28:25.090 --> 0:28:26.010 Jesus Christ. 0:28:26.050 --> 0:28:27.010 Jonesy mocked him. 0:28:27.330 --> 0:28:30.850 Can I just say, he spent $ 2, 000 on that jacket. 0:28:30.890 --> 0:28:31.090 Yeah. 0:28:31.230 --> 0:28:34.050 Then he got this nice little Fiat, the Fiat Abarth car. 0:28:34.070 --> 0:28:36.450 Have you seen those little Fiat Abarths? They're a little 0:28:36.530 --> 0:28:38.250 racing looking car. It's a nice car. 0:28:38.270 --> 0:28:38.770 Yeah, yeah. 0:28:38.830 --> 0:28:42.570 Anyway, gets a flat tyre. And the car sat in 0:28:42.610 --> 0:28:46.030 his parents' front yard for about two months. 0:28:46.090 --> 0:28:47.190 I admire the priorities. 0:28:47.250 --> 0:28:49.030 And he's spending the money on the jacket. 0:28:49.110 --> 0:28:52.460 It's like, you know, maybe the jacket sees more action than. 0:28:52.360 --> 0:28:52.860 The car does. 0:28:52.880 --> 0:28:54.400 Maybe there's an ulterior motive. 0:28:54.460 --> 0:28:56.180 He gets out of the car to meet the date, 0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:57.739 but he doesn't stay in the car. 0:28:57.760 --> 0:28:58.860 I just, you know, for me, I just. 0:28:58.940 --> 0:29:01.080 I know, but you've had priorities. For you, it's like 0:29:01.140 --> 0:29:04.030 it's a. extension of something else, your car. I don't know. 0:29:04.090 --> 0:29:05.250 It's like a midlife moment. 0:29:05.490 --> 0:29:07.050 Well, I ride a motorbike. I don't drive a car. 0:29:07.070 --> 0:29:08.950 Which is this entire ego tied up in one. 0:29:08.970 --> 0:29:09.630 That's my whole thing. 0:29:09.730 --> 0:29:10.050 It is. 0:29:10.150 --> 0:29:10.870 It's everything, yeah. 0:29:11.250 --> 0:29:13.270 I go on the back of motorbikes in London to 0:29:13.290 --> 0:29:14.890 get around quicker, so I do love motorbikes. 0:29:14.910 --> 0:29:17.060 They're good. What sort of motorbike do you go on 0:29:17.080 --> 0:29:17.420 the back of? 0:29:17.440 --> 0:29:20.040 I go on the back of the one beginning with K. 0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:20.680 Kawasaki? 0:29:20.740 --> 0:29:20.960 Yes. 0:29:23.380 --> 0:29:23.580 Well. 0:29:24.270 --> 0:29:27.150 There you go. Trini, you've got something for us all. 0:29:27.430 --> 0:29:29.160 Shop Trini London online. 0:29:29.180 --> 0:29:32.380 We have free shipping at the moment in Australia too. 0:29:32.620 --> 0:29:32.840 Really? 0:29:32.860 --> 0:29:33.280 Free shipping. 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:37.590 Check it out. Trinilondon.com and select stores across Australia. It's 0:29:37.730 --> 0:29:38.530 always great to see you. 0:29:38.570 --> 0:29:39.650 Thank you for coming here. Thank you very much. 0:29:39.670 --> 0:29:39.969 Thank you. 0:29:40.000 --> 0:29:40.180 Very much. 0:29:40.200 --> 0:29:40.680 Thank you. 0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:45.270 Jam Nation. So Cameron Starr, your brother, is on the rise. 0:29:45.330 --> 0:29:49.010 Well, he's been doing a community radio show. I know 0:29:49.170 --> 0:29:52.820 you've done community radio and you were, well, you were there. 0:29:55.720 --> 0:30:02.840 You too there from the Joshua Tree album with or. 0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:03.700 Without you. 0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:07.700 Sorry, a bit of a tongue twist there. Tequila Sunrise 0:30:07.740 --> 0:30:12.180 before that and Reasons. Johnny Farnham led it up first. 0:30:12.480 --> 0:30:14.750 I feel like you can't even breathe. I'll just say this. 0:30:14.830 --> 0:30:18.510 Back in the day, you had to pull your records out, 0:30:18.550 --> 0:30:20.110 you had to get all your tapes, you had to 0:30:20.130 --> 0:30:23.209 get your carts and you had to panel it. You 0:30:23.250 --> 0:30:25.530 had to press the buttons and there was none of 0:30:25.570 --> 0:30:28.650 this sitting down looking out into middle distance like Ryan does. 0:30:28.670 --> 0:30:29.730 What made your voice so weird? 0:30:29.990 --> 0:30:34.170 Because you're focusing on what you're doing, i.e. making sure 0:30:34.190 --> 0:30:36.820 the station stays on air. This thing runs itself. Why 0:30:36.840 --> 0:30:38.160 would you have to talk like this? 0:30:38.200 --> 0:30:40.020 Oh, that was back in the day when you had 0:30:40.060 --> 0:30:41.160 to talk like this. 0:30:41.380 --> 0:30:41.900 Well, anyway. 0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:42.960 It was all from the throat. 0:30:42.980 --> 0:30:46.120 That was you on commercial. I wish. 0:30:46.300 --> 0:30:46.500 Right. 0:30:49.070 --> 0:30:51.150 On community radio. Took me a long time. My brother 0:30:51.170 --> 0:30:54.180 is doing community radio with Bay FM 103 in Brisbane. 0:30:54.200 --> 0:30:56.820 He loves it and it's a great station. I really 0:30:56.860 --> 0:30:58.260 like it too when I'm up there. I have a listen. 0:30:58.660 --> 0:30:59.860 But he, as a Raz. 0:31:00.340 --> 0:31:01.760 Do they talk about local issues? 0:31:01.940 --> 0:31:03.610 I don't know. As a Raz. 0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:04.750 So you're a big fan. 0:31:04.870 --> 0:31:07.470 Well, when I'm up there, I listen. They play a 0:31:07.510 --> 0:31:09.770 lot of music. They do a lot of music specials. 0:31:09.850 --> 0:31:12.410 They do themes and things. I'm sure they do have 0:31:12.430 --> 0:31:15.110 a very comprehensive news service. 0:31:15.130 --> 0:31:15.230 Sure. 0:31:15.250 --> 0:31:17.520 But he's not doing a breakfast show. He's doing across 0:31:17.540 --> 0:31:19.610 the day. Every now and then he does, you know, 0:31:19.690 --> 0:31:20.330 shift here and there. 0:31:20.890 --> 0:31:22.150 He's a floater. It's part time. 0:31:22.190 --> 0:31:26.710 It was part time. So anyway, he has in promo 0:31:26.790 --> 0:31:30.970 form fully razzed me. In the guise of doing an 0:31:31.030 --> 0:31:33.280 AI promo for his show, he's put a phrase in 0:31:33.300 --> 0:31:35.620 there that he knows razzes me. 0:31:36.400 --> 0:31:39.680 Tune it in. Monday, Tuesday, 9 till 12. 0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:43.240 Camera's got the morning handled well. Good news, good news, 0:31:43.260 --> 0:31:43.860 it comes live. 0:31:45.500 --> 0:31:46.600 It's very catchy. 0:31:46.700 --> 0:31:51.540 But it's this phrase in particular that gets stuck in 0:31:51.740 --> 0:31:52.140 my craw. 0:32:08.280 --> 0:32:10.060 Well, you know, it was the 60s and they did 0:32:10.100 --> 0:32:12.020 favour the man back in the 60s. It's not true. 0:32:12.040 --> 0:32:12.860 He was the first born. 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:14.560 You're saying it to Raz me as well. It's so 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:18.800 not true. And Cameron, he signs every card with mum's favourite, 0:32:18.820 --> 0:32:22.600 et cetera, et cetera. It's a full Raz. Yeah. And 0:32:22.780 --> 0:32:24.400 he knows it winds him out, which is why he 0:32:24.420 --> 0:32:24.720 does it. 0:32:24.780 --> 0:32:26.980 We are going to use this fully operational battle station 0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:27.980 to come back with some sort of. 0:32:28.590 --> 0:32:29.450 We're writing a song. 0:32:29.530 --> 0:32:29.890 Thank you. 0:32:29.910 --> 0:32:32.470 We've had some good contributions and we're putting it together. 0:32:32.490 --> 0:32:34.750 So I'm going to fight back with my own AI. 0:32:35.190 --> 0:32:36.430 It's funny sibling rivalry. 0:32:36.610 --> 0:32:38.050 You and your brother must have had a life. 0:32:38.270 --> 0:32:43.070 Oh, we had. The amount of fights that my brother 0:32:43.110 --> 0:32:44.390 and I have had over the years. 0:32:44.410 --> 0:32:47.160 But what's something that you've been clinging to or he 0:32:47.220 --> 0:32:52.070 clings to? I know he takes your big picture books 0:32:52.130 --> 0:32:53.050 into the toilet. 0:32:53.270 --> 0:32:55.210 If you don't like. He does. 0:32:55.230 --> 0:32:57.800 But what's something that sticks in your craw? 0:32:57.960 --> 0:33:00.180 He does. Well, there was a time we had a 0:33:00.260 --> 0:33:04.280 fight and we both landed on my train set. So 0:33:04.320 --> 0:33:11.520 this train set in my room and it was huge 0:33:11.580 --> 0:33:14.110 and it was largely, my dad used to say, it 0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:17.970 was largely all plaster of Paris. So I went crazy 0:33:18.010 --> 0:33:18.670 on the plaster of Paris. 0:33:18.690 --> 0:33:19.090 I can imagine. 0:33:19.410 --> 0:33:22.180 And there was about. half a foot of tunnel and 0:33:22.220 --> 0:33:24.300 the rest of it, I mean, half a foot of space, 0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:25.620 the rest of it was all tunnel. 0:33:26.070 --> 0:33:26.240 Yeah. 0:33:26.830 --> 0:33:28.670 And Dad would say, why don't you just cover that 0:33:28.710 --> 0:33:31.170 last bit up and you can just pretend whatever trades 0:33:31.190 --> 0:33:32.910 in there. It's all the underground. You could say, oh, 0:33:32.930 --> 0:33:33.870 the XPT's in there. 0:33:33.930 --> 0:33:35.670 It's the underground. 0:33:35.710 --> 0:33:38.250 So anyway, and I was right into it. And then 0:33:38.570 --> 0:33:40.730 one day we had a bit of a, and honestly, 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.160 I don't know what the punch on was about. It 0:33:42.180 --> 0:33:44.600 was about, could have been anything. Could have been song lyrics. 0:33:45.230 --> 0:33:47.320 Could have been which band was better. Could have been anything. 0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:51.180 But then we both fell onto the train set and 0:33:51.220 --> 0:33:52.740 Dad walked into the room and he thought it looked 0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.200 like one of those Japanese Godzilla tapes. 0:33:55.640 --> 0:33:57.260 But has that stuck with you? Do you still talk 0:33:57.280 --> 0:33:57.640 about that? 0:33:57.700 --> 0:33:57.840 Yep. 0:33:58.120 --> 0:33:59.640 But we used to fight all the time. I remember 0:33:59.660 --> 0:34:02.570 Dad's 50th. The caterer came in and said, there's two 0:34:02.620 --> 0:34:05.910 boys fighting outside, two men. Do you know them? He goes, yeah, 0:34:05.930 --> 0:34:06.410 they're just my son. 0:34:06.430 --> 0:34:07.230 How old would you have been? 0:34:07.290 --> 0:34:09.870 I don't know, in my 20s. But he made a 0:34:09.910 --> 0:34:11.570 speech and I heckled him and he didn't like it 0:34:11.590 --> 0:34:11.950 because I've. 0:34:11.890 --> 0:34:12.410 Got to laugh. 0:34:13.050 --> 0:34:14.710 But this is the stuff you don't let go. 0:34:15.469 --> 0:34:19.379 Well, you'll have to ask him about that. 0:34:19.480 --> 0:34:22.879 Look at your laughter. Tribal drum is bidding for this. 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:25.680 Sibling rivalry that just won't die. 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:29.799 Sibling, yeah. Because my brother, because he's a musician and 0:34:29.820 --> 0:34:33.080 he constantly says to me, why don't you play 10cc 0:34:33.219 --> 0:34:35.560 art for art's sake? And I just say, wait, because 0:34:36.360 --> 0:34:38.259 it's a great song but it's not for commercial radio. 0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:40.160 Then you push him onto your railway track. 0:34:40.440 --> 0:34:43.700 And then he'll argue about some obscure song that no 0:34:43.800 --> 0:34:47.070 one cares about. My worst one is when he takes 0:34:47.110 --> 0:34:49.750 control of the UE boom and all of a sudden 0:34:49.790 --> 0:34:52.450 you've got his junk coming on, you know, and the 0:34:52.469 --> 0:34:55.069 whole room thinks it's me. I hate that. 0:34:55.170 --> 0:34:56.570 Okay, I'm sorry. 0:34:56.650 --> 0:34:58.730 One minute we're listening to Islands in the Stream and 0:34:58.750 --> 0:35:00.270 then Slipknot comes on. 0:35:00.430 --> 0:35:04.150 I think we've scratched the surface here. Tribal Drum is 0:35:04.190 --> 0:35:06.950 bidding for the sibling rivalry that just won't die. 0:35:06.989 --> 0:35:07.910 Did you touch my drum set? 0:35:08.030 --> 0:35:12.050 Yeah. $ 13. 0:35:11.050 --> 0:35:12.050 55. 22. 0:35:11.550 --> 0:35:12.989 We'd love to hear from you on gold. 0:35:13.870 --> 0:35:14.810 Jonesy and Amanda. 0:35:14.830 --> 0:35:17.270 Listen to the podcast whenever you want with the free 0:35:17.489 --> 0:35:18.230 iHeart app. 0:35:18.430 --> 0:35:22.370 We have just been talking about Amanda's brother Cameron. Cameron's 0:35:22.390 --> 0:35:23.310 your younger brother. 0:35:23.330 --> 0:35:25.710 No, I know what you're doing. He's two years older 0:35:25.750 --> 0:35:26.629 than me and you know that. 0:35:26.710 --> 0:35:28.810 When I first met you many, many years ago, we 0:35:28.850 --> 0:35:31.569 were at a barbecue at your place and I was 0:35:31.610 --> 0:35:33.660 standing with Cameron and he said, of course, being the 0:35:33.680 --> 0:35:36.680 younger brother. I went, oh, right, you're younger. And he said, yes, yes, 0:35:36.760 --> 0:35:38.220 I'm five years younger than Amanda. 0:35:38.580 --> 0:35:40.299 As obviously fanciful. 0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:42.460 I believe that for some time. 0:35:42.860 --> 0:35:49.110 He is doing a community radio station. It's Bay FM 100.3. 100.3. 0:35:49.110 --> 0:35:52.450 And he's put a promo together that has a giant 0:35:52.610 --> 0:35:54.410 razz in it for me. This is the line. 0:35:54.430 --> 0:35:58.459 Ask his mom, she'll tell you straight. He's the favourite 0:35:58.480 --> 0:35:59.260 child in that grave. 0:36:01.390 --> 0:36:03.430 Mum's favourite, as if. 0:36:03.430 --> 0:36:04.790 How old are you? Let it go. 0:36:04.830 --> 0:36:06.609 I know, I know. Well, that's what the tribal drum 0:36:06.650 --> 0:36:09.590 is beating for. It's sibling rivalry that just won't die. 0:36:09.750 --> 0:36:10.730 Do you touch my drum, sir? 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:15.460 Sarah has joined us on 135522. 0:36:15.860 --> 0:36:16.980 Who's your rival, Sarah? 0:36:18.040 --> 0:36:20.620 Hey, guys. Just firstly, I just wanted to comment, Amanda, 0:36:20.640 --> 0:36:22.220 about the favourite child thing. 0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:22.860 Yeah. 0:36:22.900 --> 0:36:25.109 My husband has a saying that if you ask your 0:36:25.150 --> 0:36:28.350 parent who the favourite child is and they say, oh, 0:36:28.370 --> 0:36:30.350 we don't have a favourite child, then it's not you. 0:36:32.250 --> 0:36:33.210 Oh, wow. 0:36:33.810 --> 0:36:36.009 That's funny. Because my kids will ask me that and 0:36:36.050 --> 0:36:38.989 I say, whoever's giving me the least grief at the 0:36:39.070 --> 0:36:40.780 moment is my favourite child. 0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:41.080 Okay. 0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:42.180 So that seems to work. 0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:43.839 All right. Sarah, who are you feuding with? 0:36:44.460 --> 0:36:49.259 So I'm one of three girls. Between the three of us, 0:36:49.300 --> 0:36:55.430 we've had six children. And my middle sister... continually has 0:36:55.469 --> 0:36:58.110 to one-up both my other sister and I about how 0:36:58.350 --> 0:37:01.570 she had the worst childbirth, she had the worst pregnancy, 0:37:01.690 --> 0:37:05.250 and every time anyone mentions anything about childbirth or pregnancy, 0:37:05.270 --> 0:37:08.410 this one sister has to be, it was just, everything 0:37:08.450 --> 0:37:09.090 was so bad. 0:37:09.170 --> 0:37:12.830 So every pregnancy story she said, you say, she'll black 0:37:12.910 --> 0:37:13.930 cat your story. 0:37:13.969 --> 0:37:14.870 Tell us what you mean by that. 0:37:14.910 --> 0:37:17.209 That's a great old Aussie tradition where you're talking about 0:37:17.250 --> 0:37:20.279 something and the black catter comes along, you'll say, I've 0:37:20.300 --> 0:37:22.120 got a black cat, and they go, yeah, I've got one, 0:37:22.280 --> 0:37:23.280 and it's blacker. 0:37:23.360 --> 0:37:23.580 Yeah. 0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:25.840 That's an Australian tradition. 0:37:25.880 --> 0:37:27.819 And how long ago did you have your children, Sarah? 0:37:27.860 --> 0:37:28.840 How long has this been going on? 0:37:28.860 --> 0:37:30.930 Oh, we're talking 20 years. 0:37:31.219 --> 0:37:32.430 Right. Wow. 0:37:32.950 --> 0:37:34.070 Thank you. That's excellent. 0:37:34.090 --> 0:37:36.830 I thought you really did have a dreadful, you know, birth. 0:37:36.850 --> 0:37:39.710 Oh, see, why do you side with everybody who's not 0:37:39.750 --> 0:37:43.470 the right person? Hello, Tess. Who's your sibling? 0:37:45.290 --> 0:37:47.880 My sibling rivalry is my sister. 0:37:48.000 --> 0:37:49.820 So we're only a year apart. 0:37:49.940 --> 0:37:52.839 So it always felt like we're always very close and 0:37:52.920 --> 0:37:55.919 it felt like, I always had to try to keep 0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:57.839 up to her and keep and try and be better 0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.430 and better and better than her. So always at school, 0:38:00.510 --> 0:38:02.950 if we did, she did the athletics carnival and she 0:38:03.010 --> 0:38:05.930 came second. So then I tried to come first. I 0:38:05.950 --> 0:38:08.090 wasn't a very good runner, but always at school, I 0:38:08.130 --> 0:38:10.950 was very competitive, trying to like get a better result, 0:38:10.989 --> 0:38:12.129 get more awards than her. 0:38:12.510 --> 0:38:14.770 And then finally we went to uni and she did 0:38:14.830 --> 0:38:17.260 her degree and she hated it. 0:38:17.750 --> 0:38:21.050 And she really wanted to leave early and she finished 0:38:21.090 --> 0:38:23.910 it in three years and And so just so, and 0:38:23.930 --> 0:38:25.920 she got like a nice award at the end of it. 0:38:25.969 --> 0:38:27.310 And she got like, you know, wearing. 0:38:27.070 --> 0:38:28.610 Her hats and everything. 0:38:28.630 --> 0:38:30.450 My parents are so proud of her. 0:38:30.469 --> 0:38:32.310 So I just thought, I. 0:38:32.310 --> 0:38:33.190 Need to do better than that. 0:38:33.210 --> 0:38:35.350 So I went to uni and I did a harder 0:38:35.390 --> 0:38:37.810 degree and I completed it quicker and I completed it 0:38:37.830 --> 0:38:38.390 with honours. 0:38:38.989 --> 0:38:41.490 And I got better accolades than her. 0:38:41.590 --> 0:38:42.830 And so I ended up the best. 0:38:43.030 --> 0:38:44.410 I was the best sibling after all. 0:38:44.590 --> 0:38:45.660 Oh, Tess. 0:38:46.140 --> 0:38:47.160 How long ago was all this? 0:38:48.600 --> 0:38:51.620 Oh, about 10 years ago. So we both have found 0:38:51.700 --> 0:38:54.549 our field and our love, but it was a nice 0:38:54.590 --> 0:38:55.210 little competition. 0:38:55.230 --> 0:38:57.230 I just want to test what you're saying right now, 0:38:57.290 --> 0:38:58.410 that you still are the best. 0:38:58.670 --> 0:39:00.310 Absolutely. 0:39:00.410 --> 0:39:01.390 Absolutely. 0:39:01.430 --> 0:39:03.700 Did she know that she was competing or you're the 0:39:03.860 --> 0:39:05.120 only one that was competing? 0:39:06.270 --> 0:39:08.819 I think it was all in my head, but I 0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:11.060 made sure that my parents knew that I was always 0:39:11.080 --> 0:39:14.700 the best and reiterated that my awards were better than 0:39:14.739 --> 0:39:15.260 her awards. 0:39:15.600 --> 0:39:16.100 Of course. 0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.320 Hence, I'm working on a better jingle to razz my brother. 0:39:19.340 --> 0:39:22.510 We've got the works, the wheels are in motion. Absolutely. 0:39:22.530 --> 0:39:25.610 We're using everything that is at our disposal in the 0:39:25.670 --> 0:39:28.770 audio world. We've got Foxy, one of our top audio 0:39:28.810 --> 0:39:29.730 people on the case. 0:39:29.790 --> 0:39:31.779 He's going to do a brilliant job to blow my 0:39:31.840 --> 0:39:32.980 brother out of the water. 0:39:33.420 --> 0:39:35.300 We'd like to take more of your calls as well. 0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:40.260 The sibling rivalry that just won't die. Siblings are funny things. 0:39:40.900 --> 0:39:43.989 I have three siblings. My brother and I probably battled 0:39:44.010 --> 0:39:44.420 the most. 0:39:44.469 --> 0:39:44.680 I think. 0:39:45.510 --> 0:39:48.660 Well, battle meaning have rivalry about the stupidest things. 0:39:48.800 --> 0:39:51.280 Oh, we did. You know, we. 0:39:51.300 --> 0:39:51.620 Did. 0:39:51.640 --> 0:39:53.319 Do. We still do. 0:39:53.640 --> 0:39:54.060 Music. 0:39:54.640 --> 0:39:58.480 Our big thing is music. Whenever we talk about music, 0:39:58.860 --> 0:40:02.340 like we'll talk about a band and I'll say, yeah, 0:40:02.380 --> 0:40:05.140 but what about this track? And it'll be one dreadful 0:40:05.620 --> 0:40:09.319 track from the band that no one likes. Like, you know, 0:40:12.000 --> 0:40:14.640 there was a song Australian Crawl did called White Limbo. 0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:18.620 And it just sounded like Zimbabwe, the song that they 0:40:18.640 --> 0:40:21.759 did called Zimbabwe. But White Limbo and that saying, oh, 0:40:21.780 --> 0:40:23.239 this is the greatest song. I'm going, no, that's a 0:40:23.300 --> 0:40:25.940 piece of it. And then so we'd have this ginormous 0:40:26.060 --> 0:40:28.969 argument about that. I said, White Limbo is just a 0:40:28.989 --> 0:40:31.510 ripoff of Zimbabwe. We don't need to hear. 0:40:31.290 --> 0:40:32.169 The argument now. 0:40:32.390 --> 0:40:33.910 They're plagiarising themselves. 0:40:33.989 --> 0:40:37.030 What started all of this discussion is that my brother, 0:40:37.070 --> 0:40:39.790 who's doing community radio in Brisbane, has written a promo 0:40:39.810 --> 0:40:43.649 for himself using AI and And he's got a little 0:40:43.790 --> 0:40:48.000 dig in there, a long-held phrase he likes to use. 0:40:55.500 --> 0:40:58.089 So we're working up a reply, don't you worry. But 0:40:58.110 --> 0:41:00.170 in the meantime, we want to know about your sibling 0:41:00.210 --> 0:41:01.890 rivalry that just won't die. 0:41:01.910 --> 0:41:02.910 Did you touch my drum set? 0:41:03.430 --> 0:41:04.460 Michelle has joined us. 0:41:04.489 --> 0:41:06.689 Hello, Michelle. Who's the rivalry with? 0:41:08.620 --> 0:41:11.730 It's actually my two children. So they're 22 and 24 0:41:11.730 --> 0:41:15.770 and they still believe that each other is a favourite 0:41:15.830 --> 0:41:18.669 and I remind them constantly that it is actually my 0:41:18.710 --> 0:41:20.490 dog that is my favourite child. 0:41:20.930 --> 0:41:21.310 Right. 0:41:22.030 --> 0:41:23.010 That's very smart, Michelle. 0:41:23.030 --> 0:41:24.570 Did you hear one of the calls we took before 0:41:24.590 --> 0:41:27.129 said whoever asks you if a parent says I love 0:41:27.150 --> 0:41:29.509 you both equally, then you know it's the other one. 0:41:30.160 --> 0:41:32.740 Who's the favourite? 0:41:32.780 --> 0:41:36.060 No, definitely my dog. I love my kids, but my 0:41:36.120 --> 0:41:37.340 dog doesn't give me the grief. 0:41:37.520 --> 0:41:39.160 Oh, yeah, quite true. Fair enough. 0:41:39.180 --> 0:41:41.340 But I always feel that my brother was the favourite child. 0:41:41.440 --> 0:41:41.759 Do you? 0:41:41.860 --> 0:41:44.390 He'd get the new pushbike at Christmas. I'd get a 0:41:44.450 --> 0:41:47.730 secondhand one. Oh, as if. I did. I never got 0:41:47.810 --> 0:41:49.030 a new pushbike in my life. 0:41:50.930 --> 0:41:52.110 Look, even your face is. 0:41:52.580 --> 0:41:54.279 I never got a new push bike in my life. 0:41:54.540 --> 0:41:55.680 Why would he get that and you didn't? 0:41:55.700 --> 0:41:58.399 Because, well, Matthew, he's not as capable as you. He can't. 0:41:59.060 --> 0:42:00.700 You get the push bike and you fix it and 0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:02.750 you build it and all that stuff. He couldn't do it. 0:42:02.780 --> 0:42:03.140 It's true. 0:42:03.160 --> 0:42:06.620 You're a big boaster. I'm not a big boaster. And 0:42:06.660 --> 0:42:10.180 then his push bike, what I feel this should be 0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:14.200 left for a therapist. And his push bike would be 0:42:14.260 --> 0:42:16.380 on the junk pile in about three years. 0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:17.440 And you'd fix it and use it. 0:42:17.500 --> 0:42:18.340 And I'd fix it and use it. 0:42:18.340 --> 0:42:21.580 That's why you don't need a new one. Hello, Nicole. 0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:23.320 Hi, guys. 0:42:23.620 --> 0:42:24.840 Who's the rivalry between? 0:42:26.260 --> 0:42:29.439 So mine is my children as well, but I'm kind 0:42:29.460 --> 0:42:32.719 of the instigator because I have a running title of 0:42:32.820 --> 0:42:33.680 number one son. 0:42:33.760 --> 0:42:34.540 I have two sons. 0:42:35.100 --> 0:42:39.200 I've been going for more than 30 years, and they 0:42:39.260 --> 0:42:43.140 always go above and beyond for the efforts of Mother's Day, 0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:47.500 for my birthday, because I like thoughtful presents. And the 0:42:47.800 --> 0:42:50.420 current winner is my eldest son, who took me on 0:42:50.489 --> 0:42:51.450 a trip to New Zealand. 0:42:51.739 --> 0:42:54.390 Oh, see, you've done very well, Nicole. 0:42:54.410 --> 0:42:56.350 What, are you going to scoreboard at home? 0:42:56.390 --> 0:42:59.330 You've done very well. We should all learn from the 0:42:59.410 --> 0:43:00.209 teachings of Nicole. 0:43:00.230 --> 0:43:02.469 So what does the other one feel about the one 0:43:02.489 --> 0:43:03.910 that didn't take you to New Zealand? 0:43:05.030 --> 0:43:07.160 Well, I've told him that, you know, the next place 0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:09.160 has got to start with N, so maybe New York. 0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:10.219 Oh, see. 0:43:10.239 --> 0:43:11.060 Nicole. 0:43:11.620 --> 0:43:12.760 You might end up in Nigeria. 0:43:12.820 --> 0:43:13.880 I don't know. 0:43:13.920 --> 0:43:15.040 And that'll be okay, too. 0:43:15.060 --> 0:43:15.140 Yeah. 0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:17.180 Nigeria is nice this time of. 0:43:17.160 --> 0:43:17.640 Year, Nicole. 0:43:17.719 --> 0:43:18.940 Nicole, thank you. 0:43:18.980 --> 0:43:21.279 Thank you for all your calls. Your jingle is coming 0:43:21.320 --> 0:43:21.730 along very. 0:43:21.780 --> 0:43:23.730 Very well. Yes, we are going to. We're putting it 0:43:23.770 --> 0:43:26.470 to music. It's going to be revealed after five o'clock. 0:43:26.730 --> 0:43:29.350 You're listening to the Jonesy and Amanda podcast. 0:43:29.810 --> 0:43:33.930 We had so many requests for them to do it again. 0:43:33.950 --> 0:43:34.850 Jonesy and Amanda. 0:43:34.910 --> 0:43:36.089 Amanda, she just cracks me up. 0:43:36.150 --> 0:43:39.799 Maybe we shouldn't lay off the moonshine. Jonesy's always knocking Amanda. 0:43:39.880 --> 0:43:40.640 It's so weak. 0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:42.520 Amanda's always knocking Jonesy. 0:43:42.660 --> 0:43:43.200 I'm done. 0:43:43.219 --> 0:43:44.280 Take it in the guts, Barry. 0:43:45.270 --> 0:43:47.690 We have been working on a jingle because your brother 0:43:47.850 --> 0:43:50.870 is now working. He's working his way up the ranks 0:43:50.930 --> 0:43:52.229 at Community Radio there. 0:43:52.330 --> 0:43:56.239 He's volunteering at Bay FM in Brisbane, and he's used 0:43:56.890 --> 0:44:00.300 this for evil. He's made a promo about his show 0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:02.719 using AI, and he's got a phrase in there that 0:44:02.739 --> 0:44:04.510 he knows will razz me. Here it is. 0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:07.980 Ask his mum, she'll tell you straight. 0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:09.299 He's the favourite child, ain't that great? 0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:11.259 Well, we've been working on a jingle for me. Well, 0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:12.580 I'm going to blow him out of the water. We've 0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:16.000 started with, she makes you smile. You know I don't 0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:17.790 believe this stuff, but I've got to use everything I've got. 0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:19.299 Do you want me to read it? Will you feel 0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:22.029 more comfortable? Okay, yeah, yeah. She makes you smile. She 0:44:22.070 --> 0:44:27.609 makes the afternoons wild. And what's more, she's the favourite child. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:44:27.630 --> 0:44:28.950 Go hard on that. Go hard on that. 0:44:28.969 --> 0:44:31.790 She's the favourite child. She's Amanda. When she was born, 0:44:31.870 --> 0:44:34.300 her mum and dad gave up. As the perfect child 0:44:34.580 --> 0:44:35.340 had just turned up. 0:44:35.400 --> 0:44:37.600 She could have been queen and et cetera, et cetera. 0:44:37.620 --> 0:44:39.990 Could have run the world or president first for a girl. 0:44:40.489 --> 0:44:41.830 And then we were just talking. 0:44:41.890 --> 0:44:43.469 Needs a key change. 0:44:43.510 --> 0:44:44.870 Yeah, we need a story change. 0:44:44.890 --> 0:44:45.310 Ryan. 0:44:45.370 --> 0:44:48.750 What rhymes with glory? 0:44:48.790 --> 0:44:53.469 Like she turned her back on power and glory. Maybe 0:44:53.510 --> 0:44:55.090 it's not the best rhyme to ask your help on. 0:44:55.090 --> 0:44:56.170 So you turn your back on. 0:44:57.080 --> 0:44:59.180 Power and glory to strike out big. 0:44:59.260 --> 0:44:59.640 Story. 0:45:00.100 --> 0:45:00.400 Story. 0:45:00.550 --> 0:45:01.180 Big for a different story. 0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:02.310 To strike out big for a different story. 0:45:02.370 --> 0:45:04.930 All right, now we've got, okay, great. So anyway, this 0:45:04.989 --> 0:45:05.400 is going to be. 0:45:05.550 --> 0:45:06.529 But it needs an ending bit. 0:45:06.550 --> 0:45:10.009 This is going to be put to music, AI, and 0:45:10.030 --> 0:45:11.509 we will reveal it next. 0:45:11.530 --> 0:45:13.890 Well, yeah, we've got this with top, top men. 0:45:13.950 --> 0:45:14.930 Top, top people. 0:45:14.989 --> 0:45:15.109 I.E. 0:45:15.180 --> 0:45:15.569 Foxy. 0:45:15.980 --> 0:45:16.560 And AI. 0:45:17.520 --> 0:45:18.919 What can possibly go wrong? 0:45:18.940 --> 0:45:20.080 Thanks, Elon. 0:45:21.420 --> 0:45:22.160 We'll play it next. 0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:30.090 Instagram makes its return as well. Your chance to win $ 2, 000. 0:45:26.870 --> 0:45:30.270 jonesiedamanda.com.au on gold. 0:45:30.890 --> 0:45:32.350 Jam. Jam Nation. 0:45:32.469 --> 0:45:33.350 Well, here we are. 0:45:33.370 --> 0:45:36.189 You poked the spider, he. That brother of yours has 0:45:36.290 --> 0:45:38.610 put his hand right into the hornet's nest. 0:45:38.650 --> 0:45:40.669 Yeah, and the hornet is fighting back. 0:45:40.890 --> 0:45:42.090 Welcome to the party, pal. 0:45:42.290 --> 0:45:46.170 My brother Cameron is doing community radio at Bay FM 100.3. 0:45:46.170 --> 0:45:49.370 Got to admit, it's pretty catchy. 100.3, it's a bit 0:45:49.430 --> 0:45:49.860 hard to say. 0:45:49.969 --> 0:45:51.530 No, no, not the station name. 0:45:52.050 --> 0:45:54.770 Hit the promo he's done using AI. He's made a 0:45:54.790 --> 0:45:57.140 promo for his show. And he's included a bit of 0:45:57.180 --> 0:46:00.320 a dig that he knows will rile me. Here's his promo. 0:46:00.820 --> 0:46:02.510 Monday, Tuesday, 9 till 12. 0:46:02.500 --> 0:46:04.859 Cameron's got the morning handled well. 0:46:05.200 --> 0:46:07.170 Good news, good music, come along. 0:46:07.270 --> 0:46:09.590 Good morning vibes in every song. 0:46:09.730 --> 0:46:13.290 Mornings with Cameron. Come on through. BFM 100.3 for you. 0:46:13.510 --> 0:46:18.010 Ask his mom. She'll tell you straight. He's the favorite child. 0:46:18.030 --> 0:46:18.830 Ain't that great? 0:46:18.850 --> 0:46:20.190 Mornings with Cameron. 0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.500 He's lying in song. He's lying in song because he 0:46:27.540 --> 0:46:28.200 wasn't mum's favourite. 0:46:28.219 --> 0:46:29.200 But he's not doing mornings? No. 0:46:30.930 --> 0:46:33.110 It's been a big thing that he's always claimed to 0:46:33.130 --> 0:46:34.850 be mum's favourite. Mum has passed away. We'd have to 0:46:34.870 --> 0:46:36.089 get a Ouija board out to crack the truth. 0:46:36.110 --> 0:46:37.830 Yeah, that's true. What would Jennifer be saying? 0:46:37.850 --> 0:46:39.529 Well, she'd be saying, oh, stop it, stop it. 0:46:39.690 --> 0:46:41.110 Stop it, you two. Stop fighting. 0:46:41.130 --> 0:46:43.190 Don't be silly. Don't be silly. Don't wind your sister up. 0:46:43.780 --> 0:46:47.020 And so we have used the resources that we have here. 0:46:47.520 --> 0:46:51.640 We've taken lots of comments also on our socials. We've 0:46:51.820 --> 0:46:54.049 gleaned it all. We've done a bit of a song 0:46:54.210 --> 0:46:56.229 and we've put it to, Foxy has put it to music. 0:46:56.250 --> 0:46:58.370 We've had our top people working on this. 0:46:58.450 --> 0:47:02.669 Are you ready? Time to unveil it. Cameron, take this. 0:47:02.690 --> 0:47:10.700 She makes you smile. 0:47:11.989 --> 0:47:14.690 She makes the afternoons wild. 0:47:16.230 --> 0:47:23.650 And what's more, she's the favorite child. 0:47:23.790 --> 0:47:26.390 She's Amanda when she was born. 0:47:27.070 --> 0:47:30.560 Her mom and dad gave up as the perfect child had. 0:47:30.400 --> 0:47:33.940 Just turned up. She could have been queen. 0:47:34.340 --> 0:47:38.640 Could have run the world, or president first for a girl. 0:47:43.610 --> 0:47:48.330 Power and glory To strike out big for a different 0:47:48.350 --> 0:47:52.230 story Never has a woman been so bold And you'll find. 0:47:52.050 --> 0:47:56.890 Her doing afternoons on gold So don't listen to her 0:47:56.930 --> 0:48:01.010 brother Cameron Because he has no. 0:48:00.890 --> 0:48:11.150 Crew Amanda was her mom's favorite child. 0:48:11.969 --> 0:48:18.140 And that is true. Mic drop. 0:48:19.940 --> 0:48:20.600 Something dropped. 0:48:21.750 --> 0:48:22.170 Wow. 0:48:22.290 --> 0:48:24.290 We had to call Celine and she agreed. 0:48:24.310 --> 0:48:28.680 She agreed to do it. We're a fully operational radio network. 0:48:29.150 --> 0:48:32.340 And we're picking on your brother's community radio station. 0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:33.980 Yeah, yeah, we're doing it. And I've won. That's all 0:48:34.000 --> 0:48:37.030 you need to know. I'm mum's favourite. Celine said it. 0:48:37.239 --> 0:48:37.720 The end. 0:48:37.910 --> 0:48:39.590 Unless we're not going out there with an oxy torch 0:48:39.610 --> 0:48:40.810 to cut down his transmitter. 0:48:40.969 --> 0:48:41.189 No. 0:48:41.250 --> 0:48:45.150 Which is the next step. Is that the end of it? 0:48:45.170 --> 0:48:45.710 Who knows? 0:48:45.870 --> 0:48:47.140 Who knows? That's the end of it. 0:48:47.160 --> 0:48:48.100 Okay, we'll let it drop now. 0:48:48.120 --> 0:48:49.299 Because we've got other fish to fry. 0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:49.660 Do we? 0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:52.279 Double A Chattery drops today. I like the chat you 0:48:52.320 --> 0:48:53.680 had with Dr Norman Swan. 0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:55.700 He talks about, he's written a new book called The 0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:59.550 Brain Cliff. We're all anxious about dementia, about our brains 0:48:59.590 --> 0:49:01.490 stopping working. There's good news. 0:49:02.030 --> 0:49:04.210 See a whole lot more of Jonesy and Amanda on 0:49:04.290 --> 0:49:04.830 our socials. 0:49:05.050 --> 0:49:06.130 Jonesy and Amanda. 0:49:06.190 --> 0:49:07.870 Follow us on Instagram and Facebook. 0:49:08.420 --> 0:49:11.600 Gold, good afternoon to you. It's Jonesy and Amanda driving 0:49:11.620 --> 0:49:14.739 you home this Thursday, the 22nd of October. A great 0:49:14.780 --> 0:49:19.130 day because Dak drops today. That's not pants. Double A Chattery. 0:49:19.150 --> 0:49:21.900 Double A Chattery. This is a podcast I do with 0:49:21.940 --> 0:49:24.759 my friend Anita McGregor. And this week we were interviewing 0:49:25.440 --> 0:49:29.259 Norman Swan, one of Australia's best science and medical communicators. 0:49:29.620 --> 0:49:31.900 He's written a book called Brain Cliff. We wanted to 0:49:31.960 --> 0:49:34.930 talk to him. Because it's about how our brains change 0:49:34.969 --> 0:49:36.930 as we get older. And it's not all bad news 0:49:36.950 --> 0:49:38.790 because I don't know what your algorithm is like, Brendan. 0:49:39.390 --> 0:49:42.800 My algorithm is filled with anxiety around people talking about dementia. 0:49:43.060 --> 0:49:45.120 Here's what you do to stop it. Here's blah, blah, blah. 0:49:45.160 --> 0:49:47.580 Here's the inevitability of it. Everyone's anxious about it. 0:49:47.739 --> 0:49:48.910 Mine's got a lot of jet skis. 0:49:50.410 --> 0:49:51.850 I dream to be as simple as you. 0:49:51.870 --> 0:49:53.790 Sydney Sweeney riding jet skis. 0:49:54.010 --> 0:49:57.960 But his book is saying that that drop-off is not inevitable. 0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:01.800 It's not an inevitable part of aging. Your brain changes 0:50:01.820 --> 0:50:05.480 as you get older, but that drop-off is not inevitable. 0:50:05.860 --> 0:50:08.319 And only something like 20% of it is genetic. The 0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:10.330 rest of it is environmental and things you can shape 0:50:10.390 --> 0:50:13.030 and change. And some of the things are quite interesting. 0:50:13.489 --> 0:50:15.509 And the stats are better than ever, than they've ever been. 0:50:15.930 --> 0:50:17.830 We are less likely to get dementia than we were 0:50:17.830 --> 0:50:18.509 10 years ago. 0:50:18.650 --> 0:50:18.850 Really? 0:50:18.870 --> 0:50:21.719 It's just that the population is aging, therefore more people 0:50:21.739 --> 0:50:24.420 have dementia. But as an individual, you're less likely to 0:50:24.460 --> 0:50:27.180 get it than at any time in history. So that's 0:50:27.260 --> 0:50:27.880 absolutely good news. 0:50:27.900 --> 0:50:28.480 That's good news. 0:50:28.900 --> 0:50:31.830 And some of the things we talk about, we all 0:50:31.870 --> 0:50:34.270 do about how to build our bodies to fortify ourselves 0:50:34.330 --> 0:50:36.230 against getting older. We go to the gym, we walk, 0:50:36.469 --> 0:50:39.290 we all appreciate that we need to work to stay 0:50:39.390 --> 0:50:42.609 fit as we age. But people don't think about doing 0:50:42.630 --> 0:50:45.490 that for their brains. And absolutely, you can do that 0:50:45.530 --> 0:50:47.910 for your brains. One of the things he talks about, 0:50:47.950 --> 0:50:51.000 I found really interesting, is the idea that as you 0:50:51.020 --> 0:50:53.660 get older, give your brain a rest. Stop it doing 0:50:53.739 --> 0:50:58.580 too much. Stop overthinking. Stop being too busy. But he says, actually, 0:50:58.600 --> 0:50:59.859 the opposite is true. 0:51:00.260 --> 0:51:04.060 We have this wrong idea that cognitive demand is bad 0:51:04.100 --> 0:51:06.000 for your brain. It's going to burn it out. And 0:51:06.060 --> 0:51:08.590 nothing could be further from the truth. You want to 0:51:08.640 --> 0:51:12.430 put extra demand on your brain so that your brain 0:51:12.489 --> 0:51:18.489 is constantly being pushed. So high cognitive demand. Now, there 0:51:18.510 --> 0:51:23.710 are various things that you can do that produce high 0:51:23.770 --> 0:51:29.270 cognitive demand. So meeting new people. doing new stuff with 0:51:29.330 --> 0:51:32.280 people you don't know is really important. So people talk 0:51:32.300 --> 0:51:37.319 about social interaction as being very important. Turns out when 0:51:37.340 --> 0:51:40.260 you look at the evidence, if as you get older, 0:51:40.880 --> 0:51:44.109 you're relying more and more on your family for your 0:51:44.120 --> 0:51:47.210 social content, well, that's quite good for loneliness, but it's 0:51:47.290 --> 0:51:51.050 not necessarily going to help you a lot in terms 0:51:51.090 --> 0:51:52.150 of your brain scaffolding. 0:51:52.830 --> 0:51:55.630 So it's testing yourself and meeting new challenges, having to 0:51:55.670 --> 0:51:59.169 put yourself in other situations, so that you're learning new 0:51:59.270 --> 0:52:02.169 things and learning how to communicate with people. He talks 0:52:02.230 --> 0:52:05.230 about brain scaffolding, and you don't want to just ruminate. 0:52:05.270 --> 0:52:08.190 You don't want that stuff in the middle, the frontal cortex, 0:52:08.210 --> 0:52:11.149 is that what it's called, to ruminate and overwork because 0:52:11.170 --> 0:52:13.650 that's going to stress you and exhaust you. You want 0:52:15.270 --> 0:52:18.760 your whole length and breadth of your brain to strengthen 0:52:18.780 --> 0:52:21.660 its scaffolding. One of those things is those social connections 0:52:21.680 --> 0:52:24.180 that aren't just your family. You have to work at things. 0:52:24.560 --> 0:52:27.540 Another part of it, which is interesting, is think very 0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:30.000 seriously before you retire. 0:52:30.560 --> 0:52:32.610 It's very good for you to keep working. Now, it 0:52:32.630 --> 0:52:36.670 doesn't necessarily have to be for money. It can be work, but, 0:52:37.370 --> 0:52:40.790 you know, for example, it's really hard to continue being 0:52:40.830 --> 0:52:45.779 a bricklayer or a carpenter, physical work where you just 0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:49.020 tired your body out, but you can go on to 0:52:49.060 --> 0:52:52.800 do other things where you interact, which is volunteering, maybe 0:52:52.860 --> 0:52:57.989 new jobs, etc., But the evidence is quite disturbing on retirement. 0:52:59.190 --> 0:53:00.930 And I talk about this a lot in the book, 0:53:00.989 --> 0:53:05.080 which is you've got multiple studies done in different ways. 0:53:05.660 --> 0:53:08.420 When people retire, they go into a sharp period of 0:53:08.500 --> 0:53:09.420 cognitive decline. 0:53:09.739 --> 0:53:11.400 And it's not necessarily permanent. 0:53:11.540 --> 0:53:12.320 You need something to do. 0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:13.880 But you need to work your way out. And apparently 0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:16.730 in France, where they have early retirement, they've got big 0:53:16.790 --> 0:53:19.390 problems with dementia. So as he said, it doesn't have 0:53:19.410 --> 0:53:22.040 to be paid work, but think about it. Using your brain, 0:53:22.140 --> 0:53:24.800 building your brain as we get older because we can 0:53:24.860 --> 0:53:28.370 fortify ourselves against what people perceive to be the inevitable 0:53:28.469 --> 0:53:30.850 drop-off that comes with age. You said your brain will shift, 0:53:31.130 --> 0:53:32.830 but you don't necessarily drop off. 0:53:32.969 --> 0:53:34.210 So we could do this forever. 0:53:34.850 --> 0:53:35.170 This. 0:53:35.610 --> 0:53:35.910 This. 0:53:35.930 --> 0:53:36.370 This. 0:53:36.390 --> 0:53:41.290 This. What are you going to do? What are you 0:53:41.330 --> 0:53:41.630 going to do? 0:53:41.650 --> 0:53:42.590 I've got a list. 0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:44.719 Double A Chattery drops today. 0:53:44.739 --> 0:53:45.800 It's really interesting. 0:53:45.880 --> 0:53:51.000 It's a fascinating listen. Check it out, doubleachattery.com.au or wherever 0:53:51.020 --> 0:53:51.720 you get your podcasts. 0:53:51.820 --> 0:53:52.500 iHeartRadio. 0:53:52.780 --> 0:54:03.609 Bingo. What is 10 questions, 60 seconds on the clock? 0:54:03.989 --> 0:54:06.390 You can pass if you don't know the answer. We'll 0:54:06.430 --> 0:54:08.860 come back to that question if time permits. You get 0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:11.280 all the questions right. Hot dollar. 0:54:11.930 --> 0:54:15.450 Well, $ 1, 000 hot dollars. You get $ 1, 000. You can make 0:54:15.489 --> 0:54:18.270 it $ 2, 000 by answering a bonus question, but it's double 0:54:18.310 --> 0:54:19.970 or nothing, and therein lies the jeopardy. 0:54:20.010 --> 0:54:20.430 Sasha. 0:54:21.410 --> 0:54:22.010 Hi, Sasha. 0:54:22.110 --> 0:54:22.489 It's you. 0:54:22.510 --> 0:54:22.570 Hi. 0:54:23.010 --> 0:54:24.629 Oh, my God, I'm through. 0:54:24.690 --> 0:54:26.630 Oh, my God, I'm so excited. You are through. How 0:54:26.730 --> 0:54:26.969 are you? 0:54:27.150 --> 0:54:27.850 I'm very well. 0:54:27.870 --> 0:54:30.050 Sasha, tell us about your Instagram journey. 0:54:32.270 --> 0:54:37.110 I have been on Instagram last year, and I didn't win. 0:54:37.930 --> 0:54:39.170 I chose the $ 2, 000 bet. 0:54:40.760 --> 0:54:41.260 A bower. 0:54:41.340 --> 0:54:42.410 A bitch on the bum. 0:54:42.489 --> 0:54:45.010 Oh, right. So you bailed out for the bonus question. 0:54:45.030 --> 0:54:47.230 So, Sasha, now it's your time to come back. 0:54:47.270 --> 0:54:48.290 Sasha, here we go. 0:54:48.290 --> 0:54:50.330 It's like a sequel. This time it's personal. 0:54:50.350 --> 0:54:53.270 Yeah, let's see what we can do. Sasha 2. Here 0:54:53.290 --> 0:54:55.379 we go. 10 questions, 60 seconds. If you're not sure, 0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:57.120 say pass. We might have time to come back. Are 0:54:57.140 --> 0:54:57.540 you ready? 0:54:58.520 --> 0:54:58.839 I'm ready. 0:54:58.980 --> 0:55:01.600 Sasha, good luck. Question 1. Where do you wear a necklace? 0:55:02.940 --> 0:55:05.239 On your neck. Question 2. Which season is also known 0:55:05.300 --> 0:55:05.950 as fall? 0:55:07.989 --> 0:55:08.270 Autumn. 0:55:08.590 --> 0:55:10.870 Question three, how do you say hello in Spanish? 0:55:13.030 --> 0:55:13.430 Hola. 0:55:13.810 --> 0:55:16.100 Question four, who is the male host of Sunrise? 0:55:18.460 --> 0:55:18.700 Pa. 0:55:19.260 --> 0:55:22.820 Question five, Rolls-Royce, Maserati, Volkswagen are brands of what? 0:55:24.200 --> 0:55:24.580 Car. 0:55:24.840 --> 0:55:26.580 Question six, how often is a leap year? 0:55:28.950 --> 0:55:29.570 Every four years. 0:55:29.680 --> 0:55:32.770 Question seven, which snack is made by popping heated kernels? 0:55:34.210 --> 0:55:34.670 Popcorn. 0:55:34.890 --> 0:55:41.900 Question eight, what does UFO stand for? Unidentified object. No, sorry. 0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:43.680 You left out the F and that's what you're going 0:55:43.700 --> 0:55:44.530 to say right now. 0:55:44.550 --> 0:55:44.970 Sasha. 0:55:45.200 --> 0:55:46.770 Unidentified flying object. 0:55:47.310 --> 0:55:48.290 That would be a UO. 0:55:48.310 --> 0:55:49.770 A UO? 0:55:49.910 --> 0:55:50.730 Oh, my God. 0:55:50.750 --> 0:55:52.390 You said unidentified object. 0:55:53.350 --> 0:55:53.970 I did. 0:55:54.430 --> 0:55:55.770 Oh, you would have known too. 0:55:56.030 --> 0:55:58.950 And what about the male host of Sunrise? You know this. 0:56:00.650 --> 0:56:02.890 Oh, who is that? Is that Matt Shervington? 0:56:02.989 --> 0:56:03.310 It is. 0:56:03.330 --> 0:56:05.589 Matt Shervington, the teapot. You know that. 0:56:06.750 --> 0:56:06.820 Oh. 0:56:07.880 --> 0:56:08.239 Oh, Sasha. 0:56:08.340 --> 0:56:10.160 I don't know if he still goes by the teapot. 0:56:10.180 --> 0:56:11.239 I don't think he does, Brendan. 0:56:11.280 --> 0:56:12.430 He's a big fan of our show. We love him. 0:56:13.280 --> 0:56:15.880 Sasha, I'm so sorry. You did know the answer, but 0:56:15.920 --> 0:56:17.819 it just didn't come out of your mouth, and I'm sorry. 0:56:17.969 --> 0:56:18.300 It did. 0:56:18.730 --> 0:56:19.049 It did. 0:56:20.090 --> 0:56:20.870 Oh, man. 0:56:20.890 --> 0:56:21.890 Give another crack. 0:56:22.530 --> 0:56:23.830 I will give another crack. 0:56:23.850 --> 0:56:26.290 Thank you so much. There's a Sasha-shaped $ 2, 000 in there 0:56:26.310 --> 0:56:27.109 somewhere for you. 0:56:27.810 --> 0:56:31.140 Maybe it can be the sequel again. It'll be back 0:56:31.200 --> 0:56:36.270 again tomorrow. If you'd like to play, jonesydemander.com.au. Some local 0:56:36.330 --> 0:56:37.770 news has come across my desk. 0:56:37.870 --> 0:56:38.990 You said it was Adelaide. 0:56:39.090 --> 0:56:39.969 It was Adelaide. 0:56:40.130 --> 0:56:43.569 I already know what music you're going to play to 0:56:43.650 --> 0:56:44.370 celebrate Adelaide. 0:56:44.390 --> 0:56:45.660 How do you know? I thought you thought I was 0:56:45.700 --> 0:56:47.780 going to talk about Miss Newt Australia, which we discovered 0:56:47.800 --> 0:56:48.799 the other day is still running. 0:56:48.820 --> 0:56:50.020 Is that in Adelaide? 0:56:50.420 --> 0:56:51.880 Yeah, the Crazy Horse Review. 0:56:51.920 --> 0:56:53.040 No, I wasn't going to mention that. 0:56:53.100 --> 0:56:53.560 Apparently. 0:56:53.580 --> 0:56:56.260 It's finished. 0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:57.450 What happens in the winter? 0:56:58.570 --> 0:57:01.850 They must freeze. She goes into hibernation. Don't talk about 0:57:01.870 --> 0:57:02.390 the tombion. 0:57:02.890 --> 0:57:03.150 No. 0:57:04.130 --> 0:57:06.049 It's local news. Do we have a local news? 0:57:06.090 --> 0:57:06.970 Oh, do we, Brendan? 0:57:06.989 --> 0:57:07.430 Do we? Let me guess. 0:57:07.450 --> 0:57:08.000 Let me guess. 0:57:08.200 --> 0:57:12.160 Local news happening now in Adelaide. 0:57:12.219 --> 0:57:13.560 Here we go. 0:57:14.000 --> 0:57:14.940 Yep. 0:57:15.400 --> 0:57:15.800 Locally. 0:57:16.600 --> 0:57:20.169 You're obsessed. I just watched you watch that video over 0:57:20.270 --> 0:57:22.070 and over again for the last 10 minutes. 0:57:22.250 --> 0:57:24.610 It's a disgrace. Those were the lean times for John. 0:57:26.270 --> 0:57:27.930 But let's remind him of them all the time. 0:57:27.950 --> 0:57:31.200 No, because he came back. He came back. 0:57:31.220 --> 0:57:32.020 Oh. 0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:32.100 Oh. 0:57:55.010 --> 0:57:57.810 Jude had driven past it three times at Parafield Airport 0:57:58.270 --> 0:58:02.150 but didn't twig. It also had a crude but detailed painting. 0:58:02.510 --> 0:58:03.110 But detailed. 0:58:03.130 --> 0:58:04.690 You've added that detail yourself. 0:58:04.990 --> 0:58:10.810 Of one appendage going into another with an accompanying phone 0:58:10.890 --> 0:58:13.980 number for Brian. You've got to give it to him. 0:58:14.380 --> 0:58:17.900 It's very hard to do spray paint on a car. And, 0:58:17.920 --> 0:58:19.760 you know, I worked in the panel beating game. Yeah, 0:58:19.780 --> 0:58:24.300 are you jealous? Well, yeah, that's some good control of 0:58:24.340 --> 0:58:26.280 the nozzle. 0:58:27.180 --> 0:58:27.560 Anyway. 0:58:27.700 --> 0:58:28.860 Yes, anyway. 0:58:28.930 --> 0:58:32.730 Comments underneath seems to be largely because someone has taken 0:58:32.770 --> 0:58:37.350 the liberty of obscuring Brian's telephone number, which is daubed 0:58:37.430 --> 0:58:38.050 all over the car. 0:58:38.110 --> 0:58:39.150 So Brian hasn't come forward. 0:58:39.450 --> 0:58:39.689 No. 0:58:40.130 --> 0:58:44.720 Comments underneath, has anyone been able to unobscure Brian's number? 0:58:45.650 --> 0:58:47.010 To unobscure it. 0:58:50.950 --> 0:58:54.120 Local news happening now in Adelaide. 0:58:54.140 --> 0:58:54.220 Oh. 0:58:54.300 --> 0:58:55.160 Come on! Run. 0:59:00.390 --> 0:59:01.490 Come on. 0:59:01.550 --> 0:59:02.830 Righto, you two. 0:59:02.850 --> 0:59:03.740 That's enough. 0:59:04.070 --> 0:59:05.700 Oh, what a shame. 0:59:14.450 --> 0:59:16.210 Well, we are back again tomorrow. 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