1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: Joining me live in the studio as he does every 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Wednesday morning. The Lord Mayor of Darwin convat Scalas. Good 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: morning to you. 4 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 2: Good morn Ict, Good morning listeners. What a beautiful day 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: out there. It reminds me a bit of the drive 6 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: if you take into consideration the humidity it's on as 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 2: we can see the sun. Yeah, exactly, that's very true. 8 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: And I hope it will last until Saturday. 9 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: Yes, because gon we know the eightieth anniversary of the 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: bombing of Darwin commemorations. It's going to be a big 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: day on Saturday down there at the ESPANAB What can 12 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: we expect? 13 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 2: Big things. We're going to have the Prime Minister here, 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,879 Speaker 2: the leader of the Opposition, the Governor General, the Abbassador 15 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 2: of Japan, the Abbust of tim Or Leicester, ambassadors from 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 2: or represents from Canada, England and a number of other nations, 17 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 2: and of course thousands of people. I hope hopefully the 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: weather will stay like it is today. I've been when 19 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: it's raining down heavily, but I've been to beautiful days, 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 2: but it's always humid. The guests this year will be 21 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: a young man of one hundred and one years only 22 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 2: Brian Winspear, who is one of the few survival veterans 23 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 2: who was here during the bombing of Darway. 24 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:13,639 Speaker 1: Wow. 25 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: And of course there would be a lot of descendants 26 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: of the civilians and the families they had to leave 27 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: Darwin after the bombing. They were evacuated down south and 28 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 2: a lot of their names now at the Civilian World, 29 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: which is actually adjacent to the Eternal Flame. 30 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:31,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no doubt it's going to be an incredible morning. 31 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: And like you said, a lot of dignitaries and no 32 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,560 Speaker 1: doubt a lot of Territorians down there to really remember 33 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: those lives that were lost. 34 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 2: The presence of so many dignitaries. It's important because certainly 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 2: would be transmitted throughout Australia yep, so a lot of 36 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: people there were finally know that actually Australia was attacked 37 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: in nineteen forty two. Finally they would know that the 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 2: bombing took place in Darwin and many other places in 39 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 2: Northern Australia because not many people know about Darwin. A 40 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:01,279 Speaker 2: lot of people know about Berjaba, but very few people 41 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: or not the majority of people know about Darway. 42 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: It always astonishes me the way, like you said, they 43 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: know a lot about Pearl Harbor, but don't seem to 44 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: know much about the bombing of Darwen. 45 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 2: Well, Katie, I was very surprised when I first came 46 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: to Australia to find out actually I didn't know anything 47 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 2: about Darwis I found out later when I came to Darway. 48 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: But it was not in the curriculum, the history books. 49 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: How people got to know about what happened in Australia 50 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: if it's not in their books when they got to school. 51 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: I know a lot about the European history in Second 52 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,359 Speaker 2: World War because we were taught about it in high school. 53 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: It seems here something when missing and Darwin was not 54 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: mentioned in any of these books. 55 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: So con what exactly can people expect on Saturday? What 56 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: time do things kick off? And what can I expect? 57 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: Well, we started on thirty because we have the reenactment 58 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 2: about two minutes to ten when in nineteen forty two 59 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: the Japanese attacked Darwin for first time, and because there 60 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:58,400 Speaker 2: were many many attacks followed after that, what expect the 61 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 2: reenactment again loud noise, use, the cannons, the machine guns, 62 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: but most importantly remembering what happened here eighty years ago 63 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 2: and that shows a strong message to all Australians that 64 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: we are not immune anymore. We're not an isolated island. 65 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 2: If we were attacked in nineteen forty two with that 66 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,640 Speaker 2: very old technology, it can happen again. So we should 67 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 2: learn from mistakes of the back of the past not 68 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: to be very bit in the future. Despite the war 69 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,920 Speaker 2: was raging our area, darnwe was illy equipped, not many airplanes, 70 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:34,359 Speaker 2: not much equipment, very ill trained armed forces. Hopefully that 71 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 2: is not happened now because I'm aware that we've got 72 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: Tindo based Darwin, we've got the here Larrakia Patrol Base 73 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: and a very big contingent of defense forces. But we 74 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 2: have to be always prepared. You never know what happens 75 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: in this very unstable world we leave. Just look at 76 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 2: Ukraine and look at Taiwan. 77 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, Corn, I know that there's plenty of other things 78 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: happening around the place at the moment. But one of 79 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: the big announcements, it was my earlier in the week, 80 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: Sam Burke, the general manager of the Darwin Waterfront, had 81 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: joined us on the show and had actually spoken to 82 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: us about the proposal that they've got down there for 83 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: the waterfront. It looks absolutely spectacular. Is this something that 84 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: the council is supporting or does it compete with some 85 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: of your plans. 86 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 2: I was very pleased when Sam invited us to brief 87 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 2: us about the waterfront and I was very proud to 88 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: see that something that I started as a minister, now 89 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 2: it's going to the second stage, is going to be 90 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 2: bigger and better. I love the design, I love the concept. 91 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 2: If we're going to compete with other Australian cities as 92 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 2: a destination, we have have to have something to offer 93 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: in the national and national tourists. We supported. We're very 94 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 2: very keen, I said to the Chief Minister, we're very 95 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 2: very happy to work with them. By looking at it, 96 00:04:47,080 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 2: I said, where are you going to park all the 97 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 2: castle or the people will come? And he said, well 98 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: that's a good idea. So well it's the right time 99 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 2: we're developing our civic center. 100 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. 101 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 2: Now if we can work together, we can increase the 102 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: parking space in the civic center area so people actually 103 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: pack there and then can have a shuttle bus or 104 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,240 Speaker 2: they can work down the waterfront. Ye, it's a really 105 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: good idea. The other thing I said, well, you're developing 106 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: the now the waterfront and you need money from the 107 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 2: federal government. We have ready to go the Lame Rock Coast, 108 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: which then compliments that area. So instead of having something 109 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: very very limited in the current small area, you have 110 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 2: something that actually compliments and you have people that can 111 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 2: actually enjoy themselves have a surf in the waterfront area, 112 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 2: but then they can go and walk and take dinner, 113 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: develop bus exactly. And the funny thing is that I 114 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 2: had already the public sector coming to me from in 115 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 2: the state saying that I'm very interested to work with 116 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 2: the government and the council to put money to develop 117 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: the lamar Roo coasts. At the same time, and you know, 118 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: when you go to federal government says both the state 119 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 2: government or the territory government and the council support this project, 120 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 2: it's more likely to get your money rather than just 121 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 2: one group says we want to money. 122 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, look, I think that it sounds that there's 123 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: plenty happening around the place. Hey, com one of the 124 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 1: things that I happen meaning to ask you is I 125 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 1: know that you're on the hunt for a new CEO 126 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 1: as well. When does Scott finish up? 127 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: It's finishing the day after the bombing of Darwin. He 128 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: is a living town. We've got a neither CEO on 129 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 2: ar Simon Saunders, and we already start the process to 130 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: recruit the new CEO the election. This election committee is 131 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: in place, recruitment agency had been engaged. From what I'm 132 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: really pleased to tell you is that the recruitment agency 133 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 2: told us the moment it became public there was a 134 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 2: vacancy for CEO and Darwin. They had lots and lots 135 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: of phone calls from high caliber candidates where they said 136 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: they want to work in an innovative country like Dowain. 137 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: Right, so you reckon, they're banging on the door. They're 138 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: ready to come to the terrace. 139 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 2: Just like it. I'm looking forward to get the right person, 140 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 2: man or woman for the job. And it's a great job. 141 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: It's a great location. You can bring your family and 142 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 2: live here, but it is a must no negotiable and 143 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 2: no flying flyouts. And of course it gives you an 144 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 2: innovative council with a lot of new ideas and big 145 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: projects to happen in the next few years. 146 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: Before I let you go, I know, just very quickly 147 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: those parklets. So that's something that we've seen around Darwin 148 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: over the dry season, mostly so those smaller areas that 149 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: have sort of taken up those car park spaces for 150 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: a bit of elfresco dining. Depending on what business you've 151 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: got around the city, is that something that you're going 152 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: to have again or kick off again? 153 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 2: Yes we are. We only saw one in front of 154 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: the good things. 155 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: Yes. 156 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:39,200 Speaker 2: The thing is that in other states like Perth, Fremandel 157 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: in Queensland, there are a lot of parklets. What we 158 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: did now we went out for expersion of windows for 159 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: a manufacturer. We want to develop the same design so 160 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: they don't look hotspot and they will manufacture them and 161 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 2: then we list them to the companies and they can 162 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: list them put in front of the car park their 163 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: own car park space as long as a parallel car park. 164 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: So one in one sposh, because what's gonna happen if 165 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: one shops not happy or they don't want that spot. 166 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 2: Now it is if a shop is there, let's go 167 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 2: to parklet and people come there for our fresco. The 168 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: shops next to them will benefit the more. They will 169 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: have more exposure. That's what happens down south. But you're 170 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 2: not going to be able to take the spot in 171 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 2: front of another shop. Only in front of your shop, 172 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 2: and it has to be nicely designed so we look attractive. 173 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: Not the biggest fis. 174 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, contact Scarlus, the Lord Mayor of Dow and 175 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 1: we are going to have to leave it there for today. 176 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: Always good to catch up with you. 177 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week. You will not next 178 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 2: week and a little shop holiday, but certainly i'll be 179 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: the week after all right. 180 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:37,559 Speaker 1: Sounds good. We'll see you again very soon.