Speaker 1: Welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This podcast is
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Speaker 1: and welcome to another episode of the Rise and Conquer Podcast. Today,
Speaker 1: I'm sitting down with Steph Pace. You may know her
Speaker 1: as Just Another Mummy Blog. Steph is a mother, makeup
Speaker 1: artist and blogger from Sydney, Australia. If you want to
Speaker 1: learn how to declutter your life as well as every
Speaker 1: room in your house, then keep listening. Steph has absolutely
Speaker 1: mastered the art of organization and yes she does have
Speaker 1: the most satisfying cupboards in the world. Steph also keeps
Speaker 1: it real on her blog, Just Another Mummy Blog. We
Speaker 1: chat about what it's like balancing mom life and blogging,
Speaker 1: and what it takes to start a successful blog. We
Speaker 1: also chat about mental health and in particular her anxiety
Speaker 1: and postonatal depression she experienced after giving birth with her
Speaker 1: beautiful girls, Harper and Willow. Steph's space on the Internet
Speaker 1: is raw and honest. She provides real tips and perspectives
Speaker 1: on basically every can think of, and this interview is
Speaker 1: no different. I loved this so much and it was
Speaker 1: so good to meet Steph in person. I hope you
Speaker 1: enjoy this as much.
Speaker 2: As I did.
Speaker 1: Hi, Steph, and welcome to the show.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited.
Speaker 1: Of course, so Steph traveled to me, which was so nice.
Speaker 1: And then the first thing I said to Stef I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, not the first thing. First thing
Speaker 1: I noticed, guys, she's like exactly the person who she
Speaker 1: is online, and like, look, you exactly the same. Is
Speaker 1: so sweet.
Speaker 2: I just can't thank you you're exactly the same as well.
Speaker 1: No, it's just like, of course, like everyone is. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was very refreshing. But we're sitting on the carpet
Speaker 1: on the floor because the sound is better here, so
Speaker 1: we it's rainy day, so it's really not too bad.
Speaker 1: But we're going to get into some juicy good stuff.
Speaker 1: Before that, tell me about the season that you were
Speaker 1: currently in. So what I mean by that is, you
Speaker 1: know how we all go through seasons. Some aren't that great,
Speaker 1: some are amazing. But I like to call them seasons
Speaker 1: because we can be really grateful for when we're currently
Speaker 1: in a good one, or if it's not so good,
Speaker 1: we know that it's just a season. So what sort
Speaker 1: of season are you currently in.
Speaker 2: I would say this season I'm in at the moment
Speaker 2: is balance. I'm finally finding a balance in my life
Speaker 2: for for the first time ever, maybe since I've become
Speaker 2: a mom, but you know, yeah, between running a business
Speaker 2: and then being the little ones to look after, I
Speaker 2: was like, last year was just really full on for me.
Speaker 2: I started my other business, did an event, and it
Speaker 2: was just kind of me trying to find my feet.
Speaker 2: And now I've put in like little things in place, outsourced,
Speaker 2: and now I can actually breathe again, and it's really good.
Speaker 1: I love that. And you can you can actually tell
Speaker 1: that from your stories and just your personality at the moment.
Speaker 1: You can tell that you are feeling a lot more balanced.
Speaker 1: So I'm very happy with you. Thank you, And yeah,
Speaker 1: definitely congratulations about outsourcing, because that can feel so huge
Speaker 1: and then once you do it, you're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is the best thing ever.
Speaker 2: Oh it is. It's amazing one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: Okay, So for the listeners who may not know who
Speaker 1: are can you give a snapshot of who Stephez is.
Speaker 2: So I am a mom of two girls and I
Speaker 2: basically share all things organization, health and fitness. I talk
Speaker 2: a lot about mental health as well. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: basically the face behind Just Another Mummy Blog and and
Speaker 2: I just love to share my everyday life and be
Speaker 2: pretty honest about everything.
Speaker 1: We're in real love it. And so what inspired you
Speaker 1: to start Just Another Mummy Blog?
Speaker 2: So I actually started. I was twenty five when I
Speaker 2: had my first daughter, Harper, and I didn't have like
Speaker 2: any mum friends. We were the first people in our
Speaker 2: friendship group to have kids, so I felt really alone,
Speaker 2: like I didn't really have anyone I could obviously besides
Speaker 2: my own mum to go to to us like, am
Speaker 2: I allowed to do this? I'm I allowed to do that?
Speaker 2: Like it's really scary. And I kind of started it
Speaker 2: because I also did a degree journalism at UNI and
Speaker 2: I love to write. It's like a like an outlet
Speaker 2: for me. So I was really really scared to start it,
Speaker 2: but my husband Ryan was like, just go for it.
Speaker 2: And then it just has evolved from this little blog
Speaker 2: that I could just write on my emotions and feelings
Speaker 2: into this amazing platform where I connect with all these
Speaker 2: beautiful women.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I love how it started so organically from
Speaker 1: that need to connect with others who are going through
Speaker 1: something that you're struggling with. Yeah, what's it like to
Speaker 1: maintain a blog? And then how did that kind of
Speaker 1: propel you into what you do now more with your
Speaker 1: other social media's.
Speaker 2: Well maintaining the blog, it's something that, as we're talking
Speaker 2: about earlier, like when you're feeling inspired, it's really easy
Speaker 2: to write all these topics and how to Like I
Speaker 2: love to give out free time plates to inspire people,
Speaker 2: but it's really I think when I started it, even
Speaker 2: though to me it was just a hobby, I've always
Speaker 2: made it really important. So I've always had a schedule,
Speaker 2: which I love schedules, which you'll learn. Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: just always make sure, especially having kids, I give myself
Speaker 2: more time. I allow myself that extra time, and I'm
Speaker 2: not too hard on myself if I don't meet my
Speaker 2: own personal deadlines with content.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we were actually talking about off air, just how
Speaker 1: we put these pressures on ourselves and sometimes you've got
Speaker 1: to kind of take a step back and realize you
Speaker 1: put it on yourself. But that's awesome to know. So
Speaker 1: were you quite scared of getting into this space or
Speaker 1: was it something that kind of you just you did
Speaker 1: it and now looking back, you're like, oh wow, I
Speaker 1: can't believe I jumped into that.
Speaker 2: It's a bit of both. Like I was terrified to
Speaker 2: start because I was like, what are people going to think?
Speaker 2: I had all these like limiting beliefs, like no one's
Speaker 2: going to want to read what I have to say.
Speaker 2: I have nothing good to say. And my husband Ryan
Speaker 2: is probably my biggest cheerleader, and he has always just
Speaker 2: been so supportive and he always in a good way,
Speaker 2: like pushes me into reaching my full potential because he
Speaker 2: knows I can do it. And it's really nice to see, like,
Speaker 2: and me knowing that he believes in me, I'm like,
Speaker 2: well I should do it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then honestly, like when I started, I had no
Speaker 2: idea and now it's just evolved like it was really
Speaker 2: organically grown, if that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so what advice would you have for someone?
Speaker 1: You know, maybe they want to start a mummy blog
Speaker 1: or just a blog in general, or you know, start
Speaker 1: as social media they have a story or something that
Speaker 1: they want to connect with others to what would you
Speaker 1: advice be for person?
Speaker 2: It would be to get out of your own way
Speaker 2: one hundred percent we're always so tough on ourselves. And
Speaker 2: this is for everyone, whether you're a mum or you're
Speaker 2: not a mom. You just need to stop making excuses
Speaker 2: and just realize it doesn't have to be perfect from
Speaker 2: the start. Just get on your Instagram or your platform
Speaker 2: that you want to do, and just make the content
Speaker 2: that you want and connect with the people that you
Speaker 2: want to connect.
Speaker 1: I love that and definitely what you said about it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be perfect, because if you wait for
Speaker 1: it to be perfect, like you've waited too long, I've
Speaker 1: always missed the boat.
Speaker 3: Like I look it.
Speaker 1: Back at my old content and like just old stuff
Speaker 1: I did, and I'm just like not embarrassed, but I'm like,
Speaker 1: you can tell it was early content, but that is
Speaker 1: what propelled me to where I am now. I'm sure
Speaker 1: the exact same.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to learn, like you need to practice
Speaker 2: make it. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. Okay, So obviously you're very passionate about interior
Speaker 1: design and organization. You have the most satisfying wardrobes, covers, pantries, everything,
Speaker 1: and you also have hashtags that I love seeing, which
Speaker 1: is hashtag stepping and hashtag step meaning the act of
Speaker 1: decluttering or you've just declutted. So I recently hashtag stepped
Speaker 1: my pantry, which me and stuff are actually talking, and
Speaker 1: she was going to come down and help me. And
Speaker 1: then at the start of the year, it was with
Speaker 1: the bushfires and stuff, and it was just kind of
Speaker 1: an awkward time, so I didn't, but I was like
Speaker 1: message her and I was like, you'll be so proud.
Speaker 1: You still need to come down to orgers my pantry.
Speaker 1: But I recently did it and it was the best feeling.
Speaker 1: So I'm starting to get it.
Speaker 3: But tell us what.
Speaker 1: Made you get into interiors and organization, Like is it
Speaker 1: a natural thing or did it happen when you had kids.
Speaker 2: It's funny because when I started organizing and decluttering, my
Speaker 2: mom was like in shock. I was the messiest teenager
Speaker 2: on the planet, Like I was terrible for me. It
Speaker 2: kind of stemmed from, like when I got pregnant with Harper,
Speaker 2: I started feeling it's like nesting, they call it. So
Speaker 2: I felt this need to clean up and then I
Speaker 2: noticed how good it made me feel. I really wanted
Speaker 2: my kids to grow up in like this really nice,
Speaker 2: clean environment. So I just started doing it from there,
Speaker 2: and then I realized that all the clutter around me
Speaker 2: was contributing to my mental clutter and my anxiety, so
Speaker 2: it really stemmed from there, and I just loved how
Speaker 2: it would make me feel.
Speaker 3: That's interesting.
Speaker 1: I think I want to talk a little bit later
Speaker 1: about the mental clutter, but I wanted to ask you.
Speaker 1: You obviously document this in your own life, but I
Speaker 1: love how you do quite and not in a bad way,
Speaker 1: but you push people to do this too, which is like,
Speaker 1: literally why I did my pantry and so why is
Speaker 1: that something that you encourage others to do.
Speaker 2: It's definitely because if you're a mom or not a mum,
Speaker 2: I feel like stuff can control us. And in terms
Speaker 2: of that, I mean we can just be in a
Speaker 2: state of stress. If you wake up and you're surrounded
Speaker 2: by stuff and in your head you're thinking, oh, I
Speaker 2: have to get to this, I have to get to that,
Speaker 2: that's just going to add to your to do So
Speaker 2: I really like pushing people to do like the Declutter Challenge,
Speaker 2: which is this really small things every single day, takes
Speaker 2: you five ten minutes, and it's really cleansing and it
Speaker 2: makes you feel like you're not a slave to your
Speaker 2: own house and your own life.
Speaker 1: Yes, and I actually I started doing your challenge in
Speaker 1: your planner, because I have STEP's Planner, which is literally
Speaker 1: the best thing ever, and it's just like little at
Speaker 1: task you do every single day. I remember, I think
Speaker 1: it was like the third day or something. It was
Speaker 1: clean your car, and I.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm the worst.
Speaker 1: Like my house is pretty clean, but my car is
Speaker 1: like I just don't.
Speaker 2: Care, Like i'mly saying. Everyone's surprised by that, so I
Speaker 2: need to keep on top of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but like I went in my car and I
Speaker 1: got rid of, like, you know, all like the random
Speaker 1: stuff that you have, like bottles and like random stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I cleaned like the inner console and I
Speaker 1: did all that and it felt so good. And I
Speaker 1: haven't done all of them, let's be honest, but I've
Speaker 1: been ticking off little things and just having like I know,
Speaker 1: one of them was like your upstairs bathroom or your
Speaker 1: spare bathroom, and it's like so easy. It took half
Speaker 1: an hour, and then after I was like, oh, it
Speaker 1: almost like makes it more easier because you're doing in
Speaker 1: these little blocks. So I love that. And so what
Speaker 1: advice would you give someone who they're kind of like
Speaker 1: I just don't have the time for something like that,
Speaker 1: Like I don't have the time, I don't have that
Speaker 1: sort of pleasure.
Speaker 3: What sort of advice would you give them?
Speaker 2: Definitely to look at it. I find a lot of
Speaker 2: people just are overwhelmed. They think of the whole house,
Speaker 2: the whole picture. Yes, what they need to do is
Speaker 2: that's why whatt the declutter challenge is small tasks each
Speaker 2: day could be a draw here, could be a little
Speaker 2: corner in a room there, and just dedicating five to
Speaker 2: ten minutes every single day just to go through stuff
Speaker 2: and get rid of it, You're going to feel so
Speaker 2: much lighter. It feels like a weight has been lifted
Speaker 2: off your shoulders.
Speaker 3: Yes, amazing.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I've got two little quick questions for you,
Speaker 1: which is what is your best time saving hack and
Speaker 1: what is your favorite organizing hack?
Speaker 2: All right, so my favorite time saving hacks, which I
Speaker 2: definitely utilized a lot once I had the girls, is
Speaker 2: meal prepping, meal planning, especially just like this, little things
Speaker 2: that could be like cutting up fruit that you have
Speaker 2: that you can just grab and then you're gonna eat
Speaker 2: a lot healthier. And also I have a cleaning schedule,
Speaker 2: which is my saving grace. A lot of people tend
Speaker 2: to leave the whole house clean till the weekend, and
Speaker 2: then they're spending a coold day cleaning the house. I
Speaker 2: don't want to be doing that on the weekend, so
Speaker 2: I tackle small parts of the house every single day,
Speaker 2: and then on your weekends, I just literally change the
Speaker 2: sheets and then I'll just go get the groceries and
Speaker 2: even things just like online, like online shopping for you groceries,
Speaker 2: like it saves so much time and you'll find in general,
Speaker 2: once you have decluttered your house, you save so much
Speaker 2: time in general, it's crazy.
Speaker 3: I love that.
Speaker 1: And just going back to your meal plans though, so
Speaker 1: can you run us through that? Because I am someone
Speaker 1: who I'm at home every single day. I work from home,
Speaker 1: and so I tend to, you know, just make my lunch,
Speaker 1: but it does take a lot of time. Do you
Speaker 1: just like cut up veggies, cut up fruit and that
Speaker 1: sort of thing, or what advice would you have someone
Speaker 1: like me who is at home, So it kind of
Speaker 1: feels like I don't have to make the whole meal,
Speaker 1: if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So obviously we both love to eat really balanced food,
Speaker 2: so I love to use a slow cooker. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you have a slow cooker, but I put
Speaker 2: in tons of like chicken breast with some like coconut milk.
Speaker 2: Let it slow cook and then you've got your meat
Speaker 2: for the week. Even just grabbing a roast trouk from Woolworths, yes,
Speaker 2: and using that in your sandwiches. It's really easy. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I literally just cut up everything, like say, if you're
Speaker 2: gonna have a smoothie, it's separately. Yeah, you can get
Speaker 2: reusable seal bags. You pop that in the fridge. Like
Speaker 2: if you see my fridge, it's very organized and you
Speaker 2: just put everything into portion sizes. So when it comes
Speaker 2: to having lunch, you can just grab your already made
Speaker 2: chicken out, put it on like a wrap or whatever
Speaker 2: you're having and then it's done.
Speaker 1: Amazing. And so what's your best organization? Had can be
Speaker 1: like any room anything.
Speaker 2: Well, there's so many, but one of my first one
Speaker 2: I would have to say is a Mari fold. So
Speaker 2: that is when you do vertical folding of your clothes.
Speaker 1: So I've seen this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing, and I know people are like, I
Speaker 2: don't have time for that, but Ryan can do it.
Speaker 2: So if Ryan Pace can do it, people, you can
Speaker 2: do it. Basically what it is. You're vertical folding, so
Speaker 2: you're saving so much more space and you can see
Speaker 2: everything that you have, whereas before if you fold normally,
Speaker 2: you have all these clothes at the bottom that you
Speaker 2: forget about, so you're like utilizing everything and then the
Speaker 2: other This is really lame, but anyway, for the Tupplewair
Speaker 2: draw you use a file organizer like a file holder
Speaker 2: to file all the topp ofware lids and then you
Speaker 2: put all the bottoms together and it keeps it really organized.
Speaker 3: I need to do that.
Speaker 1: My Tapleway drawer is like a shambles.
Speaker 2: Yeah it's the best. So they're probably my favorites.
Speaker 1: Amazing. Okay, so let's switch gears now and let's talk
Speaker 1: about your products because I am so obsessed, even though
Speaker 1: I'm not like as far as you with the organization,
Speaker 1: like I to be trusting that's like my goal in life.
Speaker 3: But I guess because I don't have kids and stuff,
Speaker 3: it's just like not.
Speaker 1: A priority right now. But something that I'm all about
Speaker 1: is I have always had a to do list, a diary,
Speaker 1: a journal, like I'm all about writing things down. I
Speaker 1: am often very stressed and overwhelmed and get a lot
Speaker 1: of anxiety, and so the best thing for me is
Speaker 1: to have these resources where I write things down, I
Speaker 1: tick them off. It also is very satisfying. So if
Speaker 1: you guys don't know, Steph recently launched her own for
Speaker 1: some reason a while ago now. But Steph has her
Speaker 1: own products, her planners and notepads, and I know there's
Speaker 1: some secret in new products coming soon, So keep your
Speaker 1: eyes peeled. But can you kind of explain why you
Speaker 1: wanted to create something like this and how it has
Speaker 1: helped you.
Speaker 2: Well With the planners, for example, I was so sick
Speaker 2: of buying because I've always loved a good planner like you,
Speaker 2: I love writing things down. I just love paper, ticking
Speaker 2: things off.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 2: And sometimes I'll even write down something A right done
Speaker 2: this so I can tick it off.
Speaker 1: I know it fine.
Speaker 2: So I was just I felt like on the market,
Speaker 2: when you buy a planner, you always have to do
Speaker 2: all the add ons you have to add on, like
Speaker 2: a budget section, you have to add on an exercise section.
Speaker 2: I wanted something that had everything, and I mean everything
Speaker 2: from like gift planning, password keeper, everything, And I just
Speaker 2: know from myself, and as you said, I love writing
Speaker 2: things down and it it gives you so much clarity.
Speaker 2: So I just thought, Okay, maybe like what if I
Speaker 2: just made planners And then it kind of evolved from
Speaker 2: there and then the to do list came along, which
Speaker 2: I use every single day. It's life changing. And yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just evolved and I can't wait to see what
Speaker 2: else comes out.
Speaker 3: Amazing.
Speaker 1: I was saying to someone the other day, I feel
Speaker 1: like all the best businesses come from a place where
Speaker 1: the person needs it for like they really kind of
Speaker 1: see the gap in the market and they need it,
Speaker 1: and it comes from them needing it and because you
Speaker 1: need it. And I'm someone who I want the highest
Speaker 1: standard of everything, like it's created so well. So I
Speaker 1: love that.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 1: And so what challenges have you encountered with, you know,
Speaker 1: starting a new business?
Speaker 3: Off air, me and Steph were talking about it's this.
Speaker 1: Whole other realm that you're like, let's create a product
Speaker 1: and then all these things happen. You know, has there
Speaker 1: been any challenges with starting this new passion project?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? And I think, as we're saying before, going from
Speaker 2: having just your own personal brand like which is the
Speaker 2: blog and Instagram to having an actual product, there's so
Speaker 2: many different factors that come into play, like you have
Speaker 2: to actually budget for it, you need you need me and.
Speaker 3: Powder behind it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and just like having the customer service. There's been
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of learning curves for me.
Speaker 2: But I think it's just getting used to the balance
Speaker 2: between having your own personal brand and then having an
Speaker 2: actual product brand, and then having your family as well.
Speaker 2: So I think just trying to juggle everything was probably
Speaker 2: the most like probly the scariest thing for me. But
Speaker 2: as I said, like with my husband, he was running
Speaker 2: his own business already too, so he has a lot
Speaker 2: of re sources and just I just had to learn
Speaker 2: just to say when I need help.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that, and it is like it's a scary thing,
Speaker 1: but I love that you didn't let that stop you
Speaker 1: and you're just kind of learning as you go.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, it's terrifying.
Speaker 1: Group. Okay, so let's jump back into the blog and
Speaker 1: know we're jumping all over the place. But something that
Speaker 1: I love about you is you are very open about
Speaker 1: your mental health online, which is fantastic and it's something
Speaker 1: that I've always tried to be open about, especially kind
Speaker 1: of last year. I was very open about seeing a
Speaker 1: psychologist and talking about that, and I think it's really
Speaker 1: important so we can break the stigma surrounding these topics.
Speaker 1: And I want to talk to you about your experience
Speaker 1: with anxiety and postnatal depression. So what sort of things
Speaker 1: we're running through your head after you first had Harper?
Speaker 2: So after I had Harper, like, I think going back
Speaker 2: to having like the anxiety, because I've always had anxiety.
Speaker 2: I remember I was in kindergarten and I would cry
Speaker 2: to my mom, freaking out about going to your six
Speaker 2: and she'd be like, calm down, Steph, You're not there yet.
Speaker 2: But I was fortunate. I remember you talking about this,
Speaker 2: like you didn't really have many people growing up that
Speaker 2: had any mental illness where very foreign. Yeah, all the
Speaker 2: women in my family like, which is not good, but
Speaker 2: it helped me because everyone had anxiety.
Speaker 3: At least she knew what it looks like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would like if I didn't have that,
Speaker 2: I would be thinking to myself, what's wrong with me?
Speaker 2: Why is my heart racing?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Why am I in like flight mode?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 2: And my mum would just she told me when I
Speaker 2: was quite young, like this is what you have. But
Speaker 2: we're going to work through it, so she gave me
Speaker 2: all the tools I needed and then I knew obviously,
Speaker 2: once I got pregnant, I'm more susceptible to having postnatal depression. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I just thought so naive of me, but I thought,
Speaker 2: you know, I want this baby. I want it, so
Speaker 2: I'm not going to get postnatal depression. But it doesn't
Speaker 2: work like that at all.
Speaker 1: I remember you saying that, mog and that's something I
Speaker 1: would think too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, You're like, I want the baby, so why would
Speaker 2: I be sad? But it's the same with anxiety. You
Speaker 2: can't control it. It's chemicals in your brain. It's just
Speaker 2: as we've said before. When you're sick, you go to
Speaker 2: the doctor. When you have anxiety, you go see someone.
Speaker 2: It's the same thing, and there's no shame in that
Speaker 2: you can't control it. And people do sometimes get surprised
Speaker 2: when they find out I do have anxiety because I'm
Speaker 2: quite a laid back person. But that doesn't mean any difference. Yeah.
Speaker 2: But so yeah, once I had Harper, I had a
Speaker 2: lot of issues breastfeeding, and I put a lot of
Speaker 2: pressure on myself as a mother, like, as the first
Speaker 2: time mom, I'm going to like she's gonna have organic food,
Speaker 2: no French fries, none of that. I put a lot
Speaker 2: of unnecessary pressure on myself, so that didn't help. And
Speaker 2: then when I was just sad all the time, like
Speaker 2: I was just utterly depressed. And then I was also
Speaker 2: angry at myself for being depressed because I had this
Speaker 2: beautiful baby that I wanted. But I think it was
Speaker 2: actually Ryan who said, you know, Steph, you know your
Speaker 2: mental health better than this. You know this from your anxiety,
Speaker 2: like you need to go and see some one. So
Speaker 2: I did. And then when I had Willow, I knew
Speaker 2: strode away, yeah, and I picked it up and I
Speaker 2: wasn't I wasn't an ahole to myself. I was nice
Speaker 2: to myself. And that's the main thing. A lot of
Speaker 2: people just they're so ashamed of it when they shouldn't
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Speaker 1: Took us through more about the process of how you
Speaker 1: experienced and dealt with your personatal depression. So you want
Speaker 1: to saw someone. Is that kind of just what helped
Speaker 1: you get through it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a few different things. So I'm not
Speaker 2: sure if you know this, but I've been on anxiety
Speaker 2: medication for eight nine years. That's just something that works
Speaker 2: for me, and I went off it when I was pregnant,
Speaker 2: but just seeing the doctor reevaluate and get a new
Speaker 2: mental health plan in place really helped. And then also
Speaker 2: just talking to my family that have been through it.
Speaker 2: So connecting with other people, even if it's online through forums,
Speaker 2: friends and family. Just don't be scared to actually tell
Speaker 2: people I've got this, have you had it? Because you'll
Speaker 2: be surprised how many people have actually experienced personal depression
Speaker 2: anxiety and they don't talk about it. But if you
Speaker 2: open the conversation up, it opens all these doors and
Speaker 2: it's actually really healing.
Speaker 1: And So what advice would you have someone who's currently
Speaker 1: going through it. I know you did just talk about that,
Speaker 1: but what would you tell them?
Speaker 2: Well, firstly, I would get people who don't even realize
Speaker 2: they've got it to take a look at themselves. And
Speaker 2: a lot of the times when I talk about how
Speaker 2: I'm feeling and that that was postonatal depression or anxiety,
Speaker 2: people were like, I thought that was normal to feel
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Well, actually, first let's talk about what are the some
Speaker 1: of the symptoms that you experienced.
Speaker 2: With personal depression. Yeah, yeah, so a lot of the
Speaker 2: symptoms were For me, it was a lot of anxiety obviously,
Speaker 2: but it's just a deep, deep depression, like you don't
Speaker 2: want to this sounds terrible, You didn't want to wake
Speaker 2: up in the morning. Sometimes I'd actually be scared of
Speaker 2: my baby because my milk wasn't coming in and she
Speaker 2: was crying because she was hungry. So I actually feared
Speaker 2: my own child. It's crazy, and like when I say
Speaker 2: it now, like I couldn't imagine, but it was just
Speaker 2: like it feels like another time, if that makes any sense.
Speaker 2: It's really scary and you feel like you're going to
Speaker 2: be like that forever, but you're not. It's like when
Speaker 2: you're having a panic attack. You feel like it's the
Speaker 2: end of the world, but it's not. And I just
Speaker 2: think there's so many women out there right now who
Speaker 2: are probably listening to this that have anxiety, have depression.
Speaker 2: I might still have postnatal anxiety and a depression and
Speaker 2: can go on for years and they don't even realize
Speaker 2: it because I think it's normal. So they really need
Speaker 2: to talk to family and friends, and if they don't
Speaker 2: feel like they can do that, just go see their
Speaker 2: doctor and then they're going to help them from there
Speaker 2: and go see a psychologist.
Speaker 1: And I remember because I read your blog post and
Speaker 1: you said, you know, like the thoughts that going you
Speaker 1: through your head was literally like oh my god, what
Speaker 1: a fake killed this baby? Or while you're crying so much,
Speaker 1: and like all these sorts of things, which I feel
Speaker 1: like I definitely normal sort of stuff, but you were
Speaker 1: like thinking to such an extreme.
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you're you are responsible for another human being,
Speaker 2: Like it's crazy, like you can somehow you make a
Speaker 2: human and then they solely rely on you. So even
Speaker 2: if you don't have postnatal depression, a lot of mums
Speaker 2: can get a lot of those fears. But I was like,
Speaker 2: can I give her this food? Or my feeding her
Speaker 2: too much? Is she getting enough sleep? Just those normal fears.
Speaker 2: But when you start to fear your own child or
Speaker 2: it's actually preventing you from living your life, that's when
Speaker 2: you need to see someone amazing.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for sharing your experience with that.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about having two young girls, having a
Speaker 1: full time business, you know, having a husband, all that
Speaker 1: sort of thing. I can imagine. No two days are
Speaker 1: the same. How do you go about balancing running your blog,
Speaker 1: Instagram page, business, being a mom.
Speaker 3: A wife as much as a husband.
Speaker 1: How do you go about that?
Speaker 2: Very much like you, I love my routine, I love
Speaker 2: my schedules, and I've really learned to outsource this year massively,
Speaker 2: so I finally got a PA. I have my own
Speaker 2: work schedule now, so I have so Friday's a family
Speaker 2: days strictly so I can actually just be with the girls,
Speaker 2: be present. And then I have actually just started revamping
Speaker 2: my morning routine, which is being absolutely life changing. I'm
Speaker 2: reading The Miracle Morning at the moment, which is a
Speaker 2: really good book.
Speaker 1: Who sat by Americle Morning? Hell?
Speaker 2: Oh it's hell l Rod l Rod, hell l Rod.
Speaker 1: Okay, so tell us about your morning routine because I'm
Speaker 1: obsessed with morning.
Speaker 2: That's good. So half bag the girls usually get up
Speaker 2: between six and six thirty, and it's pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it is actually really decent. I'm quite happy with that.
Speaker 2: I know some kids get up at four, but when
Speaker 2: Harper was born, I used to get up an hour
Speaker 2: before her. But then when I had Willow, who's my
Speaker 2: second daughter, I kind of just got into a routine
Speaker 2: of just sleeping till they did, and then the first
Speaker 2: thing you'd wake up to was a kid in your
Speaker 2: face nagging you for chocolate, for breakfast and it's very,
Speaker 2: very stressful. It puts you in a bad mood for
Speaker 2: the whole day. And it kind of became my reaction
Speaker 2: mood in to it. And I was already frustrated. I
Speaker 2: was already impatient, and that's not how I want to
Speaker 2: turn up as a mum. And I don't want to
Speaker 2: turn up to work like that either. So I was like,
Speaker 2: I need to give myself a kick up a butt. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I have to give myself to kick up the butt
Speaker 2: and fix this. So, yeah, now I get up at five,
Speaker 2: I've just started journaling.
Speaker 1: So that's been an hour earlier.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's an hour earlier now. Yeah, So it just
Speaker 2: gives me time just to sit and have a cup
Speaker 2: of coffee right down way to do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah so you started journaling.
Speaker 2: Yes, thanks to you. I said, I'm like, I have
Speaker 2: to try this. If Georgia does that, I need to
Speaker 2: give it a go. So I'm actually because I love writing,
Speaker 2: as you know, and it's really nice to kind of
Speaker 2: like it's like you have an internal dialogue and you're
Speaker 2: just letting it out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what do you journal about? Do you have
Speaker 1: proms or you just free write sort of things.
Speaker 2: I kind of free ride. I say, so, say I
Speaker 2: got something on that day, I'm like, I'm going to
Speaker 2: It could be like a bit of affirmations, like I'm
Speaker 2: going to smash this today. It could be any like
Speaker 2: your intentions for the intentions, any like fixing, any limiting
Speaker 2: beliefs I have. So if I'm thinking, oh, I'm not
Speaker 2: good enough, I'm going to be right. No, I'm good enough,
Speaker 2: I'm worthy. Stuff like that. It's really helping.
Speaker 1: I love that because I actually before you came, I
Speaker 1: got on my stories and I was chatting about I
Speaker 1: don't know if you saw a bit. Traveling for me
Speaker 1: actually makes me very uncomfortable. Like you, I'm such a homebody.
Speaker 1: I love routine and that sort of thing, and so
Speaker 1: I often get a lot of anxiety around traveling. And
Speaker 1: it's funny because something I did is on the aeroplane
Speaker 1: here a couple of days ago, I sat down and
Speaker 1: I wrote down. I put some little nice music in
Speaker 1: my ears, and I wrote how I wanted to feel
Speaker 1: this trip. So I was like, I want to feel
Speaker 1: really grounded. I want to feel relaxed. I want to
Speaker 1: not have those anxious feelings because I want to connect
Speaker 1: with my guests. That I'm having on the show, and
Speaker 1: I really kind of set the scene about how I
Speaker 1: would feel this trip, and I just journaled about it,
Speaker 1: and then I just got to my story and I
Speaker 1: was reflecting that that's exactly how I have felt this
Speaker 1: whole true, so good, and even stuff that would usually
Speaker 1: kind of shake me or make me feel anxious. For example,
Speaker 1: I hired a and I hired like a hi aunt.
Speaker 3: Said Steps, laughing.
Speaker 1: She and I got to the counter, and because it's
Speaker 1: Chinese New Year at the moment, they were like, we
Speaker 1: literally only have one car left. If you don't take it,
Speaker 1: you'll have to wait all day. And I had a podcast,
Speaker 1: so I had to go, and they only had this cart.
Speaker 1: It's like a twelve seater minibus and I'm not the
Speaker 1: best driver. We're in Sydney, it's like really busy and
Speaker 1: so like I could have easily had a meltdown and
Speaker 1: be like, of course, this is what happened, blah blah blah,
Speaker 1: like really get into a victim mode. But I think
Speaker 1: because I had just journaled, I had so much resilience
Speaker 1: and this whole trip, anything happens, I'm like, all good,
Speaker 1: what are we going to do about it? And it's
Speaker 1: really funny because it's the first time I've done that,
Speaker 1: or I'm traveling and then look what's happened.
Speaker 2: Oh that's amazing, isn't that pal so good?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: I did. Actually on the day of my event, I
Speaker 2: didn't journal it, but I just remember waking up and
Speaker 2: I was like, this is how I want to feel today.
Speaker 2: It's going to be absolutely amazing. Everyone's gonna have such
Speaker 2: a good time. And it happened. As soon as I
Speaker 2: started freaking out, I just went back into that power
Speaker 2: and I felt great, it's yeah, so good.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Hey, So the morning routines, you get up, your journal,
Speaker 1: you make sure you're up before the kids, anything else happen.
Speaker 2: Mostly get my to do list together for the day
Speaker 2: before Fay comes in. Who's my pay so I have
Speaker 2: everything ready for her.
Speaker 3: What time does she come in?
Speaker 2: She comes in between eight thirty and nine, So it's like,
Speaker 2: I just like to have everything ready out for her.
Speaker 1: You and also I think that you, like, are so
Speaker 1: set up of what you're going to the day.
Speaker 3: You're clear.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, So then whenever the girls decided to come downstairs,
Speaker 2: I've already done a little bit. I could have just
Speaker 2: done five minutes of guided meditation, which I've just gotten
Speaker 2: into as well, amazing, which has been so good for
Speaker 2: my anxiety as well. Yes, amazing. And then I just
Speaker 2: start prepping any of the snacks the girls neat for
Speaker 2: the day so they're ready to go. So when they
Speaker 2: wake up. And Harp is actually my oldest, she's actually
Speaker 2: really picked up on this, and she's she used to
Speaker 2: wake up quite cranky and come in, maybe because she
Speaker 2: knew that her mum was still in bed. But I'm up,
Speaker 2: I greet her in the morning. I'm happy. She's just
Speaker 2: really happy when she's me in the morning, whereas before
Speaker 2: you sh'd be a bit cranky and stuff. So it's
Speaker 2: really so interesting.
Speaker 1: It's really cool one of your tuners working for her.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And then in terms of balancing everything else,
Speaker 2: I now have a work schedule, so say mondays it
Speaker 2: could be product designing, so making omni products, could be
Speaker 2: organizing any sponsored content. I have emails, I have everything
Speaker 2: set out, and I have it laminated, and I just
Speaker 2: cross it off every single week, and it's amazing. And
Speaker 2: then you don't. It's also another thing I love about
Speaker 2: to do list is you don't feel like you have
Speaker 2: to keep it in your brain.
Speaker 1: No, it's on paper, I don't have to think about it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's really good. And I think like
Speaker 1: something I personally really need to do more of is
Speaker 1: what you're saying about kind of like batching things, especially
Speaker 1: when you know you do have so much on in
Speaker 1: your businesses and your social media and all that sort
Speaker 1: of thing. Like something I need to get better at
Speaker 1: is being like, Okay, today I'm just filming youtubes or
Speaker 1: I'm just doing podcasts, because I find when I'm going
Speaker 1: in between everything, that's when the overwhelm kicks in.
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, switching focus, I think, especially with what we did,
Speaker 2: so we have so many different parts of our jobs.
Speaker 2: I love just spending a day writing content. I love
Speaker 2: spending just today you know how, I'm going to chase
Speaker 2: things up, just have like an Errand's day where you
Speaker 2: run around a day just to be with the kids,
Speaker 2: just bashing things up as Yeah, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And so do you have any lack restrictions or
Speaker 1: rules in regards to your phone or social media or
Speaker 1: anything like that. Is that quite planned or is that
Speaker 1: kind of in the moment.
Speaker 2: I guess it's in the moment. But I, like you,
Speaker 2: I kind of am a creature of habits, So I
Speaker 2: think I just subconsciously film at the same time of
Speaker 2: every day. So obviously when the kids are fighting or arguing,
Speaker 2: I'm not going to whip my phone out, but I film,
Speaker 2: like usually do a couple of instant stories after I've meditated,
Speaker 2: and I'm like inspired for the day, hoping that it
Speaker 2: can inspire somebody else as well. And obviously usually in
Speaker 2: the afternoon, when like when Ryan gets home from work,
Speaker 2: I really limit being on my phone so we can
Speaker 2: actually be together. And the afternoon routine is pretty crazy,
Speaker 2: so I try to keep that whole social media thing,
Speaker 2: yeah restricted. Yeah, when Rhyan's at work. Yeah, it's just
Speaker 2: a lot easier that way.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And so do you have a nighttime routine?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually do so, of course. So obviously with
Speaker 2: the kids it's quite groundhog day. You get in bed, bath,
Speaker 2: all that type stuff.
Speaker 1: What time do they go to sleep?
Speaker 2: About seven? Seven thirty?
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: They used to go to bed at six, which was amazing,
Speaker 2: but that's not anymore. So, Yeah, after we've I always
Speaker 2: have to have the house clean because then I wake
Speaker 2: up to a clean house. I don't have to worry
Speaker 2: about it.
Speaker 1: Okay, I never leave, So you do that at night
Speaker 1: after they're go to bed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So during the day, I'll do quick
Speaker 2: tidy ups and every morning I make sure I enter
Speaker 2: the dishwasher, just little things like that, just to help
Speaker 2: me along the way, so then instead of chucking dishes
Speaker 2: in the sink, it goes straight to the dishwasher. But yeah, basically,
Speaker 2: I'll have a shower, rong. We'll probably be watching sport,
Speaker 2: which I don't watch. I'll have like a nice butcher,
Speaker 2: I'll watch some crime docos and then I'll get into
Speaker 2: bed and read for like forty minutes and then I
Speaker 2: just got to sleep. But I try to steal off
Speaker 2: my phone after to say nine o'clock. Yeah, and it
Speaker 2: just helps me like switch off.
Speaker 1: Amazing. And so what is Ryan lack with your lifestyle?
Speaker 1: Me and stuff were kind of talking about, Oh there,
Speaker 1: I know, lots of conversations we were kind of talking
Speaker 1: about at the start, especially with social media because it
Speaker 1: was such a new thing. I even found with Tim
Speaker 1: like it's almost they don't like the idea of like
Speaker 1: sharing your whole life where it's like, why are we
Speaker 1: doing this? So what is Ryan like with your lifestyle
Speaker 1: and your like you know, personal brand and then the
Speaker 1: new business and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: It's funny because he's very like, you can do this,
Speaker 2: you can do that. And then he'll even told me
Speaker 2: get into YouTube, gett into this job. We're like, okay,
Speaker 2: so we're filming today and he's like, oh.
Speaker 3: He's like, baby, need more content.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like refuses to do it.
Speaker 2: I'm like, it doesn't make any sense. He's like, you're
Speaker 2: part of my life. But he's definitely he's quite a
Speaker 2: shy person, but he's really opening up. And I feel
Speaker 2: like in a way, my platform has given him more confident.
Speaker 2: It's like he met a lot of a lot of
Speaker 2: my community at my vent and he's never talked to
Speaker 2: so many females in his life in one room, like
Speaker 2: it was insane. But he's he's very supportive. And I
Speaker 2: think because I do keep the boundaries with the routine,
Speaker 2: I don't always have my phone out. I think it's
Speaker 2: really our new normal, which you guys would understand. It's
Speaker 2: just part of your life and and I guess it's
Speaker 2: just making him more confident within himself. But yeah, it's
Speaker 2: definitely been a process. It's been a few years now,
Speaker 2: but yeah, he's pretty good with it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred per cent.
Speaker 1: It's definitely like this journey and they almost I think
Speaker 1: Tim was a big sort of factor too, was when
Speaker 1: he saw how much good it can really do, Like
Speaker 1: he was like, ah, Okay, I guess it's not just
Speaker 1: like this silly thing.
Speaker 2: Or when they like when you meet some of your
Speaker 2: communities out in public and that, and it's just it's
Speaker 2: just it's surreal. It's still surreal to me, but I
Speaker 2: think they do see the good that comes of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 1: And so I wanted to ask you, Obviously, there's so
Speaker 1: many positive things of social media, like we've already talked about,
Speaker 1: but sometimes there is negative things, And so do you
Speaker 1: often get criticism or judgment or anything like that and
Speaker 1: then how do you deal or you know, get through that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I've definitely had Obviously, you know, you have
Speaker 2: your trolls and stuff like that. I'm quite lucky. I
Speaker 2: don't really get many, but I've unfortunately had to grow
Speaker 2: quite a thick skin. It's definitely been a journey for
Speaker 2: me in terms of not taking things personally, especially if
Speaker 2: someone just crumbs across your page and they make their
Speaker 2: assumptions about who you are and what you stand for,
Speaker 2: and they don't know your backstory. So I think what
Speaker 2: I've really learned is it says everything about them and
Speaker 2: nothing about me. That's really helped me, and I tend
Speaker 2: to instead of this sounds weird, but I kind of
Speaker 2: send them love because a lot of the time they're
Speaker 2: hurting themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're obviously going through something for them to be
Speaker 1: that angry, or i'veset about someone they don't even know
Speaker 1: you like, oh, you must be going through something.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So as much as like it, especially if they
Speaker 2: if anyone ever like comments on my parenting or the girls,
Speaker 2: that obviously is a real source spot for me. But
Speaker 2: I always just think of they could be going through
Speaker 2: something really bad right now, and a lot of people, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: take that out on complete strangers on the internet. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I've had to grow a thick skin. But I just
Speaker 2: I know who I am and I know what my
Speaker 2: intentions are, and I think that's the most important thing
Speaker 2: is to remember that I'm in a good place, I'm
Speaker 2: from a good place, and I'm just trying to help people.
Speaker 1: I love that. That's perfect. Yeah, I couldn't agree, mom.
Speaker 1: And so the very last question that I asked all
Speaker 1: my guests is what inspires and motivates you.
Speaker 2: Honestly love I'm very much like you, Georgie. I love
Speaker 2: my podcast. I love reading as soon as I like. So,
Speaker 2: for example, with my morning routine, when I felt like
Speaker 2: it wasn't working for me, I looked up books and
Speaker 2: then I read The Miracle Morning and now here I
Speaker 2: am and I'm feeling amazing. It's just something as simple
Speaker 2: as that.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just looking at outside sources and reading books, as
Speaker 2: you know, because you love books as well, it just
Speaker 2: opens up your mind so much.
Speaker 1: And it's so true because if you think about it,
Speaker 1: like podcasts are a little bit different because anyone can
Speaker 1: kind of get a podcast, have a chat and that
Speaker 1: sort of thing, and most of them are really good books.
Speaker 1: If you think about it, If this person has got
Speaker 1: a book deal, they're going to put all the best.
Speaker 3: Things life lessons from their life in this book.
Speaker 1: Like not all books are good, let's be honest, but
Speaker 1: when you get a good one, like, it's good stuff.
Speaker 1: So I love that. Yeah, And I think a big
Speaker 1: thing what you just said is realizing that nothing lasts forever.
Speaker 1: So just because you know you used to feel inspired
Speaker 1: or motivated a certain way or from something, it's not
Speaker 1: always going to last.
Speaker 3: To be very.
Speaker 1: Open to experiencing new things and learning new things and
Speaker 1: getting inspired and motivated by different things.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, it's just good having a different places
Speaker 2: you can go to when you kind of lose that
Speaker 2: motivation or you're just not having a good day. Just
Speaker 2: reading a few even in the morning, I can read
Speaker 2: like a couple pages of a book and I feel
Speaker 2: good again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. I love that. Well, thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Steph.
Speaker 3: It has been such a pleasure to have you on
Speaker 3: the show.
Speaker 1: I'm sure all the listeners are going to go over
Speaker 1: to your Instagram now and get all your organized.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much. It's just being so fun.
Speaker 1: Oh, of course, can you let everyone know where they
Speaker 1: can find you?
Speaker 2: So I'm just another mummy blog on Instagram, And then
Speaker 2: I also have my blog which is also just another
Speaker 2: mummy blog. And then if you're after any cool planners
Speaker 2: or notepaths, that's steph Pace.
Speaker 1: Planners amazing and trust me, guys like go for Steph
Speaker 1: and just her stories. Just when you're cleaning up, like
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'll go and clean up. So it's
Speaker 1: super motivating and it's good because you're so like real
Speaker 1: and down to earth. Sometimes on Instagram I can feel
Speaker 1: like really boring because I'm like, oh, my life is
Speaker 1: so mudane, I'm not holidaying in Mexico or like you know,
Speaker 1: like lots of influencers are doing like very crazy stuff
Speaker 1: and you're just so down to earth, so realistic. I'm like,
Speaker 1: just good, I feel myself all right. Well, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. And that's a wrap on another episode of
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