1 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Rise and Conquer Podcasts. This podcast is 2 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: for women who want to take ownership of their lives, 3 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: live unapologetically, and are ready to turn their biggest dreams 4 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: into their reality. If you're ready to be armed with 5 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: the tools that will inspire to take bold action, feel 6 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: confident within yourself, and conquer your goals, then you've come 7 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: to the right place. I'm your host, Georgie Stevenson. I'm 8 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: a lawyer turned entrepreneur, co founder of Naked Harvest Supplements, 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: and social media personality with a community of over three 10 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: hundred thousand. I grew up believing I had to pursue 11 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:48,919 Speaker 1: the safe option and fit into a mold others had 12 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: created for me. But then I entered my corporate law 13 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: job and I realized that settling for a reality that 14 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: didn't set my soul on fire was something I was 15 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: not prepared to do. I wanted more, and I have 16 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: a feeling you do too. Join me and special guests 17 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: weekly as we get down to the nitty gritty on 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: all things health, mastering your mindset, creating lasting habits, thriving 19 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: in your career and relationships, plus so much more, and 20 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: together we'll gain the knowledge and perspective to pursue our 21 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: wildest dreams and kick fear to the curb. Well, what 22 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:35,479 Speaker 1: are you waiting for? Let's Rise and Conquer. Hey guys, 23 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,639 Speaker 1: and welcome to another episode of the Rise and Conquer Podcast. Today, 24 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: I'm sitting down with Steph Pace. You may know her 25 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: as Just Another Mummy Blog. Steph is a mother, makeup 26 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: artist and blogger from Sydney, Australia. If you want to 27 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: learn how to declutter your life as well as every 28 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,919 Speaker 1: room in your house, then keep listening. Steph has absolutely 29 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: mastered the art of organization and yes she does have 30 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: the most satisfying cupboards in the world. Steph also keeps 31 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: it real on her blog, Just Another Mummy Blog. We 32 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: chat about what it's like balancing mom life and blogging, 33 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 1: and what it takes to start a successful blog. We 34 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: also chat about mental health and in particular her anxiety 35 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: and postonatal depression she experienced after giving birth with her 36 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: beautiful girls, Harper and Willow. Steph's space on the Internet 37 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: is raw and honest. She provides real tips and perspectives 38 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: on basically every can think of, and this interview is 39 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: no different. I loved this so much and it was 40 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: so good to meet Steph in person. I hope you 41 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: enjoy this as much. 42 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: As I did. 43 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: Hi, Steph, and welcome to the show. 44 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited. 45 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: Of course, so Steph traveled to me, which was so nice. 46 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: And then the first thing I said to Stef I 47 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, not the first thing. First thing 48 00:02:55,480 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: I noticed, guys, she's like exactly the person who she 49 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: is online, and like, look, you exactly the same. Is 50 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 1: so sweet. 51 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 2: I just can't thank you you're exactly the same as well. 52 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: No, it's just like, of course, like everyone is. But yeah, 53 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: it was very refreshing. But we're sitting on the carpet 54 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: on the floor because the sound is better here, so 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: we it's rainy day, so it's really not too bad. 56 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: But we're going to get into some juicy good stuff. 57 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: Before that, tell me about the season that you were 58 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: currently in. So what I mean by that is, you 59 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: know how we all go through seasons. Some aren't that great, 60 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: some are amazing. But I like to call them seasons 61 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: because we can be really grateful for when we're currently 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: in a good one, or if it's not so good, 63 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: we know that it's just a season. So what sort 64 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: of season are you currently in. 65 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: I would say this season I'm in at the moment 66 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: is balance. I'm finally finding a balance in my life 67 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,240 Speaker 2: for for the first time ever, maybe since I've become 68 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 2: a mom, but you know, yeah, between running a business 69 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: and then being the little ones to look after, I 70 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 2: was like, last year was just really full on for me. 71 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: I started my other business, did an event, and it 72 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 2: was just kind of me trying to find my feet. 73 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: And now I've put in like little things in place, outsourced, 74 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: and now I can actually breathe again, and it's really good. 75 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: I love that. And you can you can actually tell 76 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: that from your stories and just your personality at the moment. 77 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: You can tell that you are feeling a lot more balanced. 78 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: So I'm very happy with you. Thank you, And yeah, 79 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: definitely congratulations about outsourcing, because that can feel so huge 80 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: and then once you do it, you're like, oh my god, 81 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: this is the best thing ever. 82 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: Oh it is. It's amazing one hundred percent. 83 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: Okay, So for the listeners who may not know who 84 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: are can you give a snapshot of who Stephez is. 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 2: So I am a mom of two girls and I 86 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,040 Speaker 2: basically share all things organization, health and fitness. I talk 87 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 2: a lot about mental health as well. But yeah, I'm 88 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 2: basically the face behind Just Another Mummy Blog and and 89 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: I just love to share my everyday life and be 90 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 2: pretty honest about everything. 91 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: We're in real love it. And so what inspired you 92 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: to start Just Another Mummy Blog? 93 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: So I actually started. I was twenty five when I 94 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: had my first daughter, Harper, and I didn't have like 95 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: any mum friends. We were the first people in our 96 00:05:18,440 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 2: friendship group to have kids, so I felt really alone, 97 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,000 Speaker 2: like I didn't really have anyone I could obviously besides 98 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 2: my own mum to go to to us like, am 99 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 2: I allowed to do this? I'm I allowed to do that? 100 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 2: Like it's really scary. And I kind of started it 101 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 2: because I also did a degree journalism at UNI and 102 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 2: I love to write. It's like a like an outlet 103 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: for me. So I was really really scared to start it, 104 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: but my husband Ryan was like, just go for it. 105 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 2: And then it just has evolved from this little blog 106 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 2: that I could just write on my emotions and feelings 107 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: into this amazing platform where I connect with all these 108 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:51,679 Speaker 2: beautiful women. 109 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: That's amazing. I love how it started so organically from 110 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 1: that need to connect with others who are going through 111 00:05:58,839 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: something that you're struggling with. Yeah, what's it like to 112 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 1: maintain a blog? And then how did that kind of 113 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: propel you into what you do now more with your 114 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: other social media's. 115 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 2: Well maintaining the blog, it's something that, as we're talking 116 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: about earlier, like when you're feeling inspired, it's really easy 117 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 2: to write all these topics and how to Like I 118 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 2: love to give out free time plates to inspire people, 119 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: but it's really I think when I started it, even 120 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: though to me it was just a hobby, I've always 121 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 2: made it really important. So I've always had a schedule, 122 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: which I love schedules, which you'll learn. Yeah, and I 123 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 2: just always make sure, especially having kids, I give myself 124 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 2: more time. I allow myself that extra time, and I'm 125 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 2: not too hard on myself if I don't meet my 126 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: own personal deadlines with content. 127 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we were actually talking about off air, just how 128 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: we put these pressures on ourselves and sometimes you've got 129 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,919 Speaker 1: to kind of take a step back and realize you 130 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: put it on yourself. But that's awesome to know. So 131 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: were you quite scared of getting into this space or 132 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: was it something that kind of you just you did 133 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,560 Speaker 1: it and now looking back, you're like, oh wow, I 134 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: can't believe I jumped into that. 135 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 2: It's a bit of both. Like I was terrified to 136 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 2: start because I was like, what are people going to think? 137 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: I had all these like limiting beliefs, like no one's 138 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 2: going to want to read what I have to say. 139 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: I have nothing good to say. And my husband Ryan 140 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: is probably my biggest cheerleader, and he has always just 141 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 2: been so supportive and he always in a good way, 142 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 2: like pushes me into reaching my full potential because he 143 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: knows I can do it. And it's really nice to see, like, 144 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 2: and me knowing that he believes in me, I'm like, 145 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: well I should do it. 146 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 147 00:07:37,400 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 2: And then honestly, like when I started, I had no 148 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: idea and now it's just evolved like it was really 149 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 2: organically grown, if that makes sense. 150 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. And so what advice would you have for someone? 151 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: You know, maybe they want to start a mummy blog 152 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: or just a blog in general, or you know, start 153 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: as social media they have a story or something that 154 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: they want to connect with others to what would you 155 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:00,560 Speaker 1: advice be for person? 156 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 2: It would be to get out of your own way 157 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: one hundred percent we're always so tough on ourselves. And 158 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 2: this is for everyone, whether you're a mum or you're 159 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 2: not a mom. You just need to stop making excuses 160 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: and just realize it doesn't have to be perfect from 161 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: the start. Just get on your Instagram or your platform 162 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: that you want to do, and just make the content 163 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 2: that you want and connect with the people that you 164 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:23,239 Speaker 2: want to connect. 165 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: I love that and definitely what you said about it 166 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 1: doesn't have to be perfect, because if you wait for 167 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: it to be perfect, like you've waited too long, I've 168 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: always missed the boat. 169 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: Like I look it. 170 00:08:34,160 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: Back at my old content and like just old stuff 171 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: I did, and I'm just like not embarrassed, but I'm like, 172 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 1: you can tell it was early content, but that is 173 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 1: what propelled me to where I am now. I'm sure 174 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: the exact same. 175 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, you have to learn, like you need to practice 176 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: make it. Yeah exactly. 177 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing. Okay, So obviously you're very passionate about interior 178 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: design and organization. You have the most satisfying wardrobes, covers, pantries, everything, 179 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: and you also have hashtags that I love seeing, which 180 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: is hashtag stepping and hashtag step meaning the act of 181 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: decluttering or you've just declutted. So I recently hashtag stepped 182 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: my pantry, which me and stuff are actually talking, and 183 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: she was going to come down and help me. And 184 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: then at the start of the year, it was with 185 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:21,079 Speaker 1: the bushfires and stuff, and it was just kind of 186 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,480 Speaker 1: an awkward time, so I didn't, but I was like 187 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: message her and I was like, you'll be so proud. 188 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: You still need to come down to orgers my pantry. 189 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: But I recently did it and it was the best feeling. 190 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: So I'm starting to get it. 191 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: But tell us what. 192 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: Made you get into interiors and organization, Like is it 193 00:09:38,640 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 1: a natural thing or did it happen when you had kids. 194 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 2: It's funny because when I started organizing and decluttering, my 195 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: mom was like in shock. I was the messiest teenager 196 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 2: on the planet, Like I was terrible for me. It 197 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 2: kind of stemmed from, like when I got pregnant with Harper, 198 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: I started feeling it's like nesting, they call it. So 199 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 2: I felt this need to clean up and then I 200 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 2: noticed how good it made me feel. I really wanted 201 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 2: my kids to grow up in like this really nice, 202 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 2: clean environment. So I just started doing it from there, 203 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: and then I realized that all the clutter around me 204 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 2: was contributing to my mental clutter and my anxiety, so 205 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: it really stemmed from there, and I just loved how 206 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 2: it would make me feel. 207 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: That's interesting. 208 00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: I think I want to talk a little bit later 209 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: about the mental clutter, but I wanted to ask you. 210 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: You obviously document this in your own life, but I 211 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: love how you do quite and not in a bad way, 212 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: but you push people to do this too, which is like, 213 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 1: literally why I did my pantry and so why is 214 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: that something that you encourage others to do. 215 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: It's definitely because if you're a mom or not a mum, 216 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 2: I feel like stuff can control us. And in terms 217 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 2: of that, I mean we can just be in a 218 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: state of stress. If you wake up and you're surrounded 219 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: by stuff and in your head you're thinking, oh, I 220 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 2: have to get to this, I have to get to that, 221 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: that's just going to add to your to do So 222 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: I really like pushing people to do like the Declutter Challenge, 223 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 2: which is this really small things every single day, takes 224 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 2: you five ten minutes, and it's really cleansing and it 225 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: makes you feel like you're not a slave to your 226 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: own house and your own life. 227 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: Yes, and I actually I started doing your challenge in 228 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: your planner, because I have STEP's Planner, which is literally 229 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: the best thing ever, and it's just like little at 230 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: task you do every single day. I remember, I think 231 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: it was like the third day or something. It was 232 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: clean your car, and I. 233 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 3: Like, I'm the worst. 234 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: Like my house is pretty clean, but my car is 235 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: like I just don't. 236 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 2: Care, Like i'mly saying. Everyone's surprised by that, so I 237 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: need to keep on top of it. 238 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but like I went in my car and I 239 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: got rid of, like, you know, all like the random 240 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: stuff that you have, like bottles and like random stuff 241 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: like that. I cleaned like the inner console and I 242 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: did all that and it felt so good. And I 243 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: haven't done all of them, let's be honest, but I've 244 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: been ticking off little things and just having like I know, 245 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 1: one of them was like your upstairs bathroom or your 246 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: spare bathroom, and it's like so easy. It took half 247 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 1: an hour, and then after I was like, oh, it 248 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: almost like makes it more easier because you're doing in 249 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: these little blocks. So I love that. And so what 250 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: advice would you give someone who they're kind of like 251 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: I just don't have the time for something like that, 252 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: Like I don't have the time, I don't have that 253 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 1: sort of pleasure. 254 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 3: What sort of advice would you give them? 255 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,080 Speaker 2: Definitely to look at it. I find a lot of 256 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: people just are overwhelmed. They think of the whole house, 257 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: the whole picture. Yes, what they need to do is 258 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 2: that's why whatt the declutter challenge is small tasks each 259 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 2: day could be a draw here, could be a little 260 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 2: corner in a room there, and just dedicating five to 261 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 2: ten minutes every single day just to go through stuff 262 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: and get rid of it, You're going to feel so 263 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 2: much lighter. It feels like a weight has been lifted 264 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: off your shoulders. 265 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: Yes, amazing. 266 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: Okay, so I've got two little quick questions for you, 267 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: which is what is your best time saving hack and 268 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: what is your favorite organizing hack? 269 00:12:56,240 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: All right, so my favorite time saving hacks, which I 270 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,559 Speaker 2: definitely utilized a lot once I had the girls, is 271 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 2: meal prepping, meal planning, especially just like this, little things 272 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: that could be like cutting up fruit that you have 273 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 2: that you can just grab and then you're gonna eat 274 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: a lot healthier. And also I have a cleaning schedule, 275 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 2: which is my saving grace. A lot of people tend 276 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 2: to leave the whole house clean till the weekend, and 277 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: then they're spending a coold day cleaning the house. I 278 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: don't want to be doing that on the weekend, so 279 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 2: I tackle small parts of the house every single day, 280 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,079 Speaker 2: and then on your weekends, I just literally change the 281 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 2: sheets and then I'll just go get the groceries and 282 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,320 Speaker 2: even things just like online, like online shopping for you groceries, 283 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 2: like it saves so much time and you'll find in general, 284 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 2: once you have decluttered your house, you save so much 285 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: time in general, it's crazy. 286 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 3: I love that. 287 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: And just going back to your meal plans though, so 288 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: can you run us through that? Because I am someone 289 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,800 Speaker 1: who I'm at home every single day. I work from home, 290 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: and so I tend to, you know, just make my lunch, 291 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: but it does take a lot of time. Do you 292 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: just like cut up veggies, cut up fruit and that 293 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 1: sort of thing, or what advice would you have someone 294 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: like me who is at home, So it kind of 295 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: feels like I don't have to make the whole meal, 296 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: if that makes sense. 297 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So obviously we both love to eat really balanced food, 298 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: so I love to use a slow cooker. I don't 299 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 2: know if you have a slow cooker, but I put 300 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 2: in tons of like chicken breast with some like coconut milk. 301 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: Let it slow cook and then you've got your meat 302 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 2: for the week. Even just grabbing a roast trouk from Woolworths, yes, 303 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: and using that in your sandwiches. It's really easy. But yeah, 304 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 2: I literally just cut up everything, like say, if you're 305 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: gonna have a smoothie, it's separately. Yeah, you can get 306 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 2: reusable seal bags. You pop that in the fridge. Like 307 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 2: if you see my fridge, it's very organized and you 308 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 2: just put everything into portion sizes. So when it comes 309 00:14:45,240 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: to having lunch, you can just grab your already made 310 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 2: chicken out, put it on like a wrap or whatever 311 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 2: you're having and then it's done. 312 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: Amazing. And so what's your best organization? Had can be 313 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: like any room anything. 314 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: Well, there's so many, but one of my first one 315 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 2: I would have to say is a Mari fold. So 316 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 2: that is when you do vertical folding of your clothes. 317 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: So I've seen this. 318 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing, and I know people are like, I 319 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: don't have time for that, but Ryan can do it. 320 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 2: So if Ryan Pace can do it, people, you can 321 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: do it. Basically what it is. You're vertical folding, so 322 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: you're saving so much more space and you can see 323 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 2: everything that you have, whereas before if you fold normally, 324 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: you have all these clothes at the bottom that you 325 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: forget about, so you're like utilizing everything and then the 326 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: other This is really lame, but anyway, for the Tupplewair 327 00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: draw you use a file organizer like a file holder 328 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: to file all the topp ofware lids and then you 329 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 2: put all the bottoms together and it keeps it really organized. 330 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 3: I need to do that. 331 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: My Tapleway drawer is like a shambles. 332 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah it's the best. So they're probably my favorites. 333 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: Amazing. Okay, so let's switch gears now and let's talk 334 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,720 Speaker 1: about your products because I am so obsessed, even though 335 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm not like as far as you with the organization, 336 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: like I to be trusting that's like my goal in life. 337 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: But I guess because I don't have kids and stuff, 338 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: it's just like not. 339 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,680 Speaker 1: A priority right now. But something that I'm all about 340 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: is I have always had a to do list, a diary, 341 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: a journal, like I'm all about writing things down. I 342 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: am often very stressed and overwhelmed and get a lot 343 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: of anxiety, and so the best thing for me is 344 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: to have these resources where I write things down, I 345 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: tick them off. It also is very satisfying. So if 346 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: you guys don't know, Steph recently launched her own for 347 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: some reason a while ago now. But Steph has her 348 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 1: own products, her planners and notepads, and I know there's 349 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: some secret in new products coming soon, So keep your 350 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: eyes peeled. But can you kind of explain why you 351 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 1: wanted to create something like this and how it has 352 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: helped you. 353 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: Well With the planners, for example, I was so sick 354 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 2: of buying because I've always loved a good planner like you, 355 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: I love writing things down. I just love paper, ticking 356 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: things off. 357 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 3: It is. 358 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 2: And sometimes I'll even write down something A right done 359 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 2: this so I can tick it off. 360 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: I know it fine. 361 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 2: So I was just I felt like on the market, 362 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: when you buy a planner, you always have to do 363 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 2: all the add ons you have to add on, like 364 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: a budget section, you have to add on an exercise section. 365 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 2: I wanted something that had everything, and I mean everything 366 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 2: from like gift planning, password keeper, everything, And I just 367 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 2: know from myself, and as you said, I love writing 368 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: things down and it it gives you so much clarity. 369 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: So I just thought, Okay, maybe like what if I 370 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: just made planners And then it kind of evolved from 371 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: there and then the to do list came along, which 372 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: I use every single day. It's life changing. And yeah, 373 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,119 Speaker 2: it's just evolved and I can't wait to see what 374 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 2: else comes out. 375 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 3: Amazing. 376 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: I was saying to someone the other day, I feel 377 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: like all the best businesses come from a place where 378 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 1: the person needs it for like they really kind of 379 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: see the gap in the market and they need it, 380 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 1: and it comes from them needing it and because you 381 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: need it. And I'm someone who I want the highest 382 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 1: standard of everything, like it's created so well. So I 383 00:17:58,640 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: love that. 384 00:17:59,520 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: Thank you. 385 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,959 Speaker 1: And so what challenges have you encountered with, you know, 386 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: starting a new business? 387 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 3: Off air, me and Steph were talking about it's this. 388 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: Whole other realm that you're like, let's create a product 389 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: and then all these things happen. You know, has there 390 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: been any challenges with starting this new passion project? 391 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 2: Absolutely? And I think, as we're saying before, going from 392 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,480 Speaker 2: having just your own personal brand like which is the 393 00:18:23,520 --> 00:18:26,719 Speaker 2: blog and Instagram to having an actual product, there's so 394 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,919 Speaker 2: many different factors that come into play, like you have 395 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: to actually budget for it, you need you need me and. 396 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:32,159 Speaker 3: Powder behind it. 397 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, and just like having the customer service. There's been 398 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of learning curves for me. 399 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: But I think it's just getting used to the balance 400 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: between having your own personal brand and then having an 401 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 2: actual product brand, and then having your family as well. 402 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: So I think just trying to juggle everything was probably 403 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 2: the most like probly the scariest thing for me. But 404 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,119 Speaker 2: as I said, like with my husband, he was running 405 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 2: his own business already too, so he has a lot 406 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: of re sources and just I just had to learn 407 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 2: just to say when I need help. 408 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:05,200 Speaker 3: Yeah. 409 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: I love that, and it is like it's a scary thing, 410 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: but I love that you didn't let that stop you 411 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: and you're just kind of learning as you go. 412 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, it's terrifying. 413 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: Group. Okay, so let's jump back into the blog and 414 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: know we're jumping all over the place. But something that 415 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 1: I love about you is you are very open about 416 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: your mental health online, which is fantastic and it's something 417 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:32,080 Speaker 1: that I've always tried to be open about, especially kind 418 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 1: of last year. I was very open about seeing a 419 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: psychologist and talking about that, and I think it's really 420 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:41,680 Speaker 1: important so we can break the stigma surrounding these topics. 421 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,120 Speaker 1: And I want to talk to you about your experience 422 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: with anxiety and postnatal depression. So what sort of things 423 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: we're running through your head after you first had Harper? 424 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 2: So after I had Harper, like, I think going back 425 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 2: to having like the anxiety, because I've always had anxiety. 426 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 2: I remember I was in kindergarten and I would cry 427 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:05,800 Speaker 2: to my mom, freaking out about going to your six 428 00:20:05,840 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: and she'd be like, calm down, Steph, You're not there yet. 429 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 2: But I was fortunate. I remember you talking about this, 430 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: like you didn't really have many people growing up that 431 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:16,600 Speaker 2: had any mental illness where very foreign. Yeah, all the 432 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: women in my family like, which is not good, but 433 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: it helped me because everyone had anxiety. 434 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,679 Speaker 3: At least she knew what it looks like. 435 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I would like if I didn't have that, 436 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: I would be thinking to myself, what's wrong with me? 437 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 2: Why is my heart racing? 438 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: Yeah? 439 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 2: Why am I in like flight mode? 440 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 3: You know? 441 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: And my mum would just she told me when I 442 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 2: was quite young, like this is what you have. But 443 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: we're going to work through it, so she gave me 444 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 2: all the tools I needed and then I knew obviously, 445 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: once I got pregnant, I'm more susceptible to having postnatal depression. Yeah, 446 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 2: and I just thought so naive of me, but I thought, 447 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,560 Speaker 2: you know, I want this baby. I want it, so 448 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: I'm not going to get postnatal depression. But it doesn't 449 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: work like that at all. 450 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: I remember you saying that, mog and that's something I 451 00:20:58,920 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: would think too. 452 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, You're like, I want the baby, so why would 453 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 2: I be sad? But it's the same with anxiety. You 454 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: can't control it. It's chemicals in your brain. It's just 455 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 2: as we've said before. When you're sick, you go to 456 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 2: the doctor. When you have anxiety, you go see someone. 457 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 2: It's the same thing, and there's no shame in that 458 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 2: you can't control it. And people do sometimes get surprised 459 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:20,439 Speaker 2: when they find out I do have anxiety because I'm 460 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: quite a laid back person. But that doesn't mean any difference. Yeah. 461 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 2: But so yeah, once I had Harper, I had a 462 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 2: lot of issues breastfeeding, and I put a lot of 463 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 2: pressure on myself as a mother, like, as the first 464 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 2: time mom, I'm going to like she's gonna have organic food, 465 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: no French fries, none of that. I put a lot 466 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: of unnecessary pressure on myself, so that didn't help. And 467 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 2: then when I was just sad all the time, like 468 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 2: I was just utterly depressed. And then I was also 469 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 2: angry at myself for being depressed because I had this 470 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 2: beautiful baby that I wanted. But I think it was 471 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,120 Speaker 2: actually Ryan who said, you know, Steph, you know your 472 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 2: mental health better than this. You know this from your anxiety, 473 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,800 Speaker 2: like you need to go and see some one. So 474 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 2: I did. And then when I had Willow, I knew 475 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: strode away, yeah, and I picked it up and I 476 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 2: wasn't I wasn't an ahole to myself. I was nice 477 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: to myself. And that's the main thing. A lot of 478 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 2: people just they're so ashamed of it when they shouldn't 479 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 2: be a shamed. 480 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: No, hey, guys, I'm quickly interrupting this episode because I 481 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: am so excited. Naked Harvest has just launched not one, 482 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:30,159 Speaker 1: but two new natural pre workout flavors, juicy grape and 483 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: lemon lime crush. 484 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 3: How good does that sound? 485 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 1: I am personally all over the grape. I'm obsessed. It 486 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: smells like Hubba bubba and it tastes so good. 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Get ready to feel energized 496 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 1: and strong. Join the NH game and feel free to 497 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: use Rise and Conquer at checkout for a sneaky fifteen 498 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: percent discount. Okay, let's get straight back into the episode. 499 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: Took us through more about the process of how you 500 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: experienced and dealt with your personatal depression. So you want 501 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,400 Speaker 1: to saw someone. Is that kind of just what helped 502 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: you get through it? 503 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a few different things. So I'm not 504 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 2: sure if you know this, but I've been on anxiety 505 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 2: medication for eight nine years. That's just something that works 506 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 2: for me, and I went off it when I was pregnant, 507 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 2: but just seeing the doctor reevaluate and get a new 508 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: mental health plan in place really helped. And then also 509 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 2: just talking to my family that have been through it. 510 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 2: So connecting with other people, even if it's online through forums, 511 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 2: friends and family. Just don't be scared to actually tell 512 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: people I've got this, have you had it? Because you'll 513 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: be surprised how many people have actually experienced personal depression 514 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: anxiety and they don't talk about it. But if you 515 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 2: open the conversation up, it opens all these doors and 516 00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:13,479 Speaker 2: it's actually really healing. 517 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: And So what advice would you have someone who's currently 518 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: going through it. I know you did just talk about that, 519 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,400 Speaker 1: but what would you tell them? 520 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,920 Speaker 2: Well, firstly, I would get people who don't even realize 521 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 2: they've got it to take a look at themselves. And 522 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 2: a lot of the times when I talk about how 523 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm feeling and that that was postonatal depression or anxiety, 524 00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 2: people were like, I thought that was normal to feel 525 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 2: like that. 526 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 1: Well, actually, first let's talk about what are the some 527 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: of the symptoms that you experienced. 528 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: With personal depression. Yeah, yeah, so a lot of the 529 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 2: symptoms were For me, it was a lot of anxiety obviously, 530 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 2: but it's just a deep, deep depression, like you don't 531 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 2: want to this sounds terrible, You didn't want to wake 532 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: up in the morning. Sometimes I'd actually be scared of 533 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: my baby because my milk wasn't coming in and she 534 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 2: was crying because she was hungry. So I actually feared 535 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 2: my own child. It's crazy, and like when I say 536 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: it now, like I couldn't imagine, but it was just 537 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 2: like it feels like another time, if that makes any sense. 538 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: It's really scary and you feel like you're going to 539 00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: be like that forever, but you're not. It's like when 540 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:15,399 Speaker 2: you're having a panic attack. You feel like it's the 541 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,399 Speaker 2: end of the world, but it's not. And I just 542 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 2: think there's so many women out there right now who 543 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: are probably listening to this that have anxiety, have depression. 544 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: I might still have postnatal anxiety and a depression and 545 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 2: can go on for years and they don't even realize 546 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,360 Speaker 2: it because I think it's normal. So they really need 547 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,640 Speaker 2: to talk to family and friends, and if they don't 548 00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:35,760 Speaker 2: feel like they can do that, just go see their 549 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 2: doctor and then they're going to help them from there 550 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: and go see a psychologist. 551 00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:42,239 Speaker 1: And I remember because I read your blog post and 552 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: you said, you know, like the thoughts that going you 553 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: through your head was literally like oh my god, what 554 00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: a fake killed this baby? Or while you're crying so much, 555 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:51,199 Speaker 1: and like all these sorts of things, which I feel 556 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: like I definitely normal sort of stuff, but you were 557 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: like thinking to such an extreme. 558 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially when you're you are responsible for another human being, 559 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 2: Like it's crazy, like you can somehow you make a 560 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 2: human and then they solely rely on you. So even 561 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 2: if you don't have postnatal depression, a lot of mums 562 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 2: can get a lot of those fears. But I was like, 563 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 2: can I give her this food? Or my feeding her 564 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,200 Speaker 2: too much? Is she getting enough sleep? Just those normal fears. 565 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 2: But when you start to fear your own child or 566 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: it's actually preventing you from living your life, that's when 567 00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: you need to see someone amazing. 568 00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much for sharing your experience with that. 569 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 1: So let's talk about having two young girls, having a 570 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: full time business, you know, having a husband, all that 571 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: sort of thing. I can imagine. No two days are 572 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: the same. How do you go about balancing running your blog, 573 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: Instagram page, business, being a mom. 574 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: A wife as much as a husband. 575 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: How do you go about that? 576 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 2: Very much like you, I love my routine, I love 577 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 2: my schedules, and I've really learned to outsource this year massively, 578 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: so I finally got a PA. I have my own 579 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 2: work schedule now, so I have so Friday's a family 580 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 2: days strictly so I can actually just be with the girls, 581 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: be present. And then I have actually just started revamping 582 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: my morning routine, which is being absolutely life changing. I'm 583 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 2: reading The Miracle Morning at the moment, which is a 584 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: really good book. 585 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: Who sat by Americle Morning? Hell? 586 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,920 Speaker 2: Oh it's hell l Rod l Rod, hell l Rod. 587 00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: Okay, so tell us about your morning routine because I'm 588 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: obsessed with morning. 589 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 2: That's good. So half bag the girls usually get up 590 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: between six and six thirty, and it's pretty good. Yeah, 591 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 2: it is actually really decent. I'm quite happy with that. 592 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: I know some kids get up at four, but when 593 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: Harper was born, I used to get up an hour 594 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: before her. But then when I had Willow, who's my 595 00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,679 Speaker 2: second daughter, I kind of just got into a routine 596 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: of just sleeping till they did, and then the first 597 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:47,719 Speaker 2: thing you'd wake up to was a kid in your 598 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 2: face nagging you for chocolate, for breakfast and it's very, 599 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 2: very stressful. It puts you in a bad mood for 600 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: the whole day. And it kind of became my reaction 601 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: mood in to it. And I was already frustrated. I 602 00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 2: was already impatient, and that's not how I want to 603 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,639 Speaker 2: turn up as a mum. And I don't want to 604 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 2: turn up to work like that either. So I was like, 605 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: I need to give myself a kick up a butt. Sorry, 606 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 2: I have to give myself to kick up the butt 607 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 2: and fix this. So, yeah, now I get up at five, 608 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 2: I've just started journaling. 609 00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: So that's been an hour earlier. 610 00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 2: Yes, it's an hour earlier now. Yeah, So it just 611 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 2: gives me time just to sit and have a cup 612 00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 2: of coffee right down way to do this. 613 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: Yeah so you started journaling. 614 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 2: Yes, thanks to you. I said, I'm like, I have 615 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: to try this. If Georgia does that, I need to 616 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,200 Speaker 2: give it a go. So I'm actually because I love writing, 617 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 2: as you know, and it's really nice to kind of 618 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 2: like it's like you have an internal dialogue and you're 619 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 2: just letting it out. 620 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, so what do you journal about? Do you have 621 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 1: proms or you just free write sort of things. 622 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 2: I kind of free ride. I say, so, say I 623 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: got something on that day, I'm like, I'm going to 624 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 2: It could be like a bit of affirmations, like I'm 625 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: going to smash this today. It could be any like 626 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 2: your intentions for the intentions, any like fixing, any limiting 627 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: beliefs I have. So if I'm thinking, oh, I'm not 628 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 2: good enough, I'm going to be right. No, I'm good enough, 629 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 2: I'm worthy. Stuff like that. It's really helping. 630 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: I love that because I actually before you came, I 631 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 1: got on my stories and I was chatting about I 632 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: don't know if you saw a bit. Traveling for me 633 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: actually makes me very uncomfortable. Like you, I'm such a homebody. 634 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: I love routine and that sort of thing, and so 635 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: I often get a lot of anxiety around traveling. And 636 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,920 Speaker 1: it's funny because something I did is on the aeroplane 637 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 1: here a couple of days ago, I sat down and 638 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: I wrote down. I put some little nice music in 639 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,720 Speaker 1: my ears, and I wrote how I wanted to feel 640 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: this trip. So I was like, I want to feel 641 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 1: really grounded. I want to feel relaxed. I want to 642 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 1: not have those anxious feelings because I want to connect 643 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: with my guests. That I'm having on the show, and 644 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: I really kind of set the scene about how I 645 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: would feel this trip, and I just journaled about it, 646 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: and then I just got to my story and I 647 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: was reflecting that that's exactly how I have felt this 648 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: whole true, so good, and even stuff that would usually 649 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: kind of shake me or make me feel anxious. For example, 650 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: I hired a and I hired like a hi aunt. 651 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:03,960 Speaker 3: Said Steps, laughing. 652 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: She and I got to the counter, and because it's 653 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: Chinese New Year at the moment, they were like, we 654 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,640 Speaker 1: literally only have one car left. If you don't take it, 655 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: you'll have to wait all day. And I had a podcast, 656 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 1: so I had to go, and they only had this cart. 657 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: It's like a twelve seater minibus and I'm not the 658 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: best driver. We're in Sydney, it's like really busy and 659 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: so like I could have easily had a meltdown and 660 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: be like, of course, this is what happened, blah blah blah, 661 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: like really get into a victim mode. But I think 662 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: because I had just journaled, I had so much resilience 663 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 1: and this whole trip, anything happens, I'm like, all good, 664 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: what are we going to do about it? And it's 665 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: really funny because it's the first time I've done that, 666 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: or I'm traveling and then look what's happened. 667 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: Oh that's amazing, isn't that pal so good? 668 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 1: No? 669 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 2: I did. Actually on the day of my event, I 670 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 2: didn't journal it, but I just remember waking up and 671 00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 2: I was like, this is how I want to feel today. 672 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 2: It's going to be absolutely amazing. Everyone's gonna have such 673 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 2: a good time. And it happened. As soon as I 674 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 2: started freaking out, I just went back into that power 675 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 2: and I felt great, it's yeah, so good. 676 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 3: It's crazy. 677 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: Hey, So the morning routines, you get up, your journal, 678 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: you make sure you're up before the kids, anything else happen. 679 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 2: Mostly get my to do list together for the day 680 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 2: before Fay comes in. Who's my pay so I have 681 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 2: everything ready for her. 682 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 3: What time does she come in? 683 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 2: She comes in between eight thirty and nine, So it's like, 684 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 2: I just like to have everything ready out for her. 685 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: You and also I think that you, like, are so 686 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: set up of what you're going to the day. 687 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 3: You're clear. 688 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, So then whenever the girls decided to come downstairs, 689 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 2: I've already done a little bit. I could have just 690 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 2: done five minutes of guided meditation, which I've just gotten 691 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: into as well, amazing, which has been so good for 692 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:42,560 Speaker 2: my anxiety as well. Yes, amazing. And then I just 693 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 2: start prepping any of the snacks the girls neat for 694 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,520 Speaker 2: the day so they're ready to go. So when they 695 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 2: wake up. And Harp is actually my oldest, she's actually 696 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 2: really picked up on this, and she's she used to 697 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 2: wake up quite cranky and come in, maybe because she 698 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 2: knew that her mum was still in bed. But I'm up, 699 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 2: I greet her in the morning. I'm happy. She's just 700 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 2: really happy when she's me in the morning, whereas before 701 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: you sh'd be a bit cranky and stuff. So it's 702 00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 2: really so interesting. 703 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 1: It's really cool one of your tuners working for her. 704 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. And then in terms of balancing everything else, 705 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: I now have a work schedule, so say mondays it 706 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: could be product designing, so making omni products, could be 707 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 2: organizing any sponsored content. I have emails, I have everything 708 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,080 Speaker 2: set out, and I have it laminated, and I just 709 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 2: cross it off every single week, and it's amazing. And 710 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: then you don't. It's also another thing I love about 711 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 2: to do list is you don't feel like you have 712 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: to keep it in your brain. 713 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: No, it's on paper, I don't have to think about it. 714 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:33,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's amazing. 715 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's that's really good. And I think like 716 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: something I personally really need to do more of is 717 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,280 Speaker 1: what you're saying about kind of like batching things, especially 718 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,360 Speaker 1: when you know you do have so much on in 719 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: your businesses and your social media and all that sort 720 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: of thing. Like something I need to get better at 721 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: is being like, Okay, today I'm just filming youtubes or 722 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: I'm just doing podcasts, because I find when I'm going 723 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: in between everything, that's when the overwhelm kicks in. 724 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 3: And so yeah, I love that. 725 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, switching focus, I think, especially with what we did, 726 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: so we have so many different parts of our jobs. 727 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 2: I love just spending a day writing content. I love 728 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 2: spending just today you know how, I'm going to chase 729 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 2: things up, just have like an Errand's day where you 730 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: run around a day just to be with the kids, 731 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 2: just bashing things up as Yeah, it's amazing. 732 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. And so do you have any lack restrictions or 733 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 1: rules in regards to your phone or social media or 734 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: anything like that. Is that quite planned or is that 735 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: kind of in the moment. 736 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 2: I guess it's in the moment. But I, like you, 737 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 2: I kind of am a creature of habits, So I 738 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 2: think I just subconsciously film at the same time of 739 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 2: every day. So obviously when the kids are fighting or arguing, 740 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 2: I'm not going to whip my phone out, but I film, 741 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 2: like usually do a couple of instant stories after I've meditated, 742 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: and I'm like inspired for the day, hoping that it 743 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 2: can inspire somebody else as well. And obviously usually in 744 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: the afternoon, when like when Ryan gets home from work, 745 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 2: I really limit being on my phone so we can 746 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 2: actually be together. And the afternoon routine is pretty crazy, 747 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 2: so I try to keep that whole social media thing, 748 00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: yeah restricted. Yeah, when Rhyan's at work. Yeah, it's just 749 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 2: a lot easier that way. 750 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 751 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: And so do you have a nighttime routine? 752 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually do so, of course. So obviously with 753 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,959 Speaker 2: the kids it's quite groundhog day. You get in bed, bath, 754 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 2: all that type stuff. 755 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: What time do they go to sleep? 756 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 2: About seven? Seven thirty? 757 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: Nice. 758 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 2: They used to go to bed at six, which was amazing, 759 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: but that's not anymore. So, Yeah, after we've I always 760 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 2: have to have the house clean because then I wake 761 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 2: up to a clean house. I don't have to worry 762 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 2: about it. 763 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: Okay, I never leave, So you do that at night 764 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 1: after they're go to bed. 765 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So during the day, I'll do quick 766 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 2: tidy ups and every morning I make sure I enter 767 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 2: the dishwasher, just little things like that, just to help 768 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 2: me along the way, so then instead of chucking dishes 769 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 2: in the sink, it goes straight to the dishwasher. But yeah, basically, 770 00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,720 Speaker 2: I'll have a shower, rong. We'll probably be watching sport, 771 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: which I don't watch. I'll have like a nice butcher, 772 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,839 Speaker 2: I'll watch some crime docos and then I'll get into 773 00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 2: bed and read for like forty minutes and then I 774 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 2: just got to sleep. But I try to steal off 775 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 2: my phone after to say nine o'clock. Yeah, and it 776 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 2: just helps me like switch off. 777 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: Amazing. And so what is Ryan lack with your lifestyle? 778 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: Me and stuff were kind of talking about, Oh there, 779 00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,919 Speaker 1: I know, lots of conversations we were kind of talking 780 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: about at the start, especially with social media because it 781 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: was such a new thing. I even found with Tim 782 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 1: like it's almost they don't like the idea of like 783 00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: sharing your whole life where it's like, why are we 784 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: doing this? So what is Ryan like with your lifestyle 785 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 1: and your like you know, personal brand and then the 786 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,399 Speaker 1: new business and that sort of thing. 787 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 2: It's funny because he's very like, you can do this, 788 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 2: you can do that. And then he'll even told me 789 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 2: get into YouTube, gett into this job. We're like, okay, 790 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: so we're filming today and he's like, oh. 791 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 3: He's like, baby, need more content. 792 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like refuses to do it. 793 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, it doesn't make any sense. He's like, you're 794 00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: part of my life. But he's definitely he's quite a 795 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 2: shy person, but he's really opening up. And I feel 796 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 2: like in a way, my platform has given him more confident. 797 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 2: It's like he met a lot of a lot of 798 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,719 Speaker 2: my community at my vent and he's never talked to 799 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 2: so many females in his life in one room, like 800 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 2: it was insane. But he's he's very supportive. And I 801 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,240 Speaker 2: think because I do keep the boundaries with the routine, 802 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 2: I don't always have my phone out. I think it's 803 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 2: really our new normal, which you guys would understand. It's 804 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 2: just part of your life and and I guess it's 805 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:24,919 Speaker 2: just making him more confident within himself. But yeah, it's 806 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 2: definitely been a process. It's been a few years now, 807 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 2: but yeah, he's pretty good with it. 808 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred per cent. 809 00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 1: It's definitely like this journey and they almost I think 810 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: Tim was a big sort of factor too, was when 811 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,400 Speaker 1: he saw how much good it can really do, Like 812 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 1: he was like, ah, Okay, I guess it's not just 813 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:43,800 Speaker 1: like this silly thing. 814 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 2: Or when they like when you meet some of your 815 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 2: communities out in public and that, and it's just it's 816 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 2: just it's surreal. It's still surreal to me, but I 817 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,440 Speaker 2: think they do see the good that comes of it. 818 00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. 819 00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: And so I wanted to ask you, Obviously, there's so 820 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: many positive things of social media, like we've already talked about, 821 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: but sometimes there is negative things, And so do you 822 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: often get criticism or judgment or anything like that and 823 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: then how do you deal or you know, get through that. 824 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, I've definitely had Obviously, you know, you have 825 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,440 Speaker 2: your trolls and stuff like that. I'm quite lucky. I 826 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 2: don't really get many, but I've unfortunately had to grow 827 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 2: quite a thick skin. It's definitely been a journey for 828 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,359 Speaker 2: me in terms of not taking things personally, especially if 829 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 2: someone just crumbs across your page and they make their 830 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 2: assumptions about who you are and what you stand for, 831 00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 2: and they don't know your backstory. So I think what 832 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 2: I've really learned is it says everything about them and 833 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,520 Speaker 2: nothing about me. That's really helped me, and I tend 834 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 2: to instead of this sounds weird, but I kind of 835 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,120 Speaker 2: send them love because a lot of the time they're 836 00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:50,080 Speaker 2: hurting themselves. 837 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're obviously going through something for them to be 838 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: that angry, or i'veset about someone they don't even know 839 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,760 Speaker 1: you like, oh, you must be going through something. 840 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, So as much as like it, especially if they 841 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 2: if anyone ever like comments on my parenting or the girls, 842 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 2: that obviously is a real source spot for me. But 843 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,319 Speaker 2: I always just think of they could be going through 844 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 2: something really bad right now, and a lot of people, unfortunately, 845 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 2: take that out on complete strangers on the internet. So yeah, 846 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,279 Speaker 2: I've had to grow a thick skin. But I just 847 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:20,880 Speaker 2: I know who I am and I know what my 848 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 2: intentions are, and I think that's the most important thing 849 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 2: is to remember that I'm in a good place, I'm 850 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 2: from a good place, and I'm just trying to help people. 851 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:30,879 Speaker 1: I love that. That's perfect. Yeah, I couldn't agree, mom. 852 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: And so the very last question that I asked all 853 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,760 Speaker 1: my guests is what inspires and motivates you. 854 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: Honestly love I'm very much like you, Georgie. I love 855 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,480 Speaker 2: my podcast. I love reading as soon as I like. So, 856 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 2: for example, with my morning routine, when I felt like 857 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 2: it wasn't working for me, I looked up books and 858 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:49,800 Speaker 2: then I read The Miracle Morning and now here I 859 00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 2: am and I'm feeling amazing. It's just something as simple 860 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:52,440 Speaker 2: as that. 861 00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: I love that. 862 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, just looking at outside sources and reading books, as 863 00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 2: you know, because you love books as well, it just 864 00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 2: opens up your mind so much. 865 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: And it's so true because if you think about it, 866 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 1: like podcasts are a little bit different because anyone can 867 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 1: kind of get a podcast, have a chat and that 868 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: sort of thing, and most of them are really good books. 869 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: If you think about it, If this person has got 870 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 1: a book deal, they're going to put all the best. 871 00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,800 Speaker 3: Things life lessons from their life in this book. 872 00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 1: Like not all books are good, let's be honest, but 873 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: when you get a good one, like, it's good stuff. 874 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: So I love that. Yeah, And I think a big 875 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: thing what you just said is realizing that nothing lasts forever. 876 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: So just because you know you used to feel inspired 877 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,400 Speaker 1: or motivated a certain way or from something, it's not 878 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: always going to last. 879 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 3: To be very. 880 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,440 Speaker 1: Open to experiencing new things and learning new things and 881 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: getting inspired and motivated by different things. 882 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah, it's just good having a different places 883 00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 2: you can go to when you kind of lose that 884 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 2: motivation or you're just not having a good day. Just 885 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 2: reading a few even in the morning, I can read 886 00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,839 Speaker 2: like a couple pages of a book and I feel 887 00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:00,280 Speaker 2: good again. 888 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, one hundred percent. I love that. Well, thank you 889 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: so much, Steph. 890 00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:06,319 Speaker 3: It has been such a pleasure to have you on 891 00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:06,760 Speaker 3: the show. 892 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure all the listeners are going to go over 893 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: to your Instagram now and get all your organized. 894 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. It's just being so fun. 895 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:15,359 Speaker 1: Oh, of course, can you let everyone know where they 896 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 1: can find you? 897 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 2: So I'm just another mummy blog on Instagram, And then 898 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 2: I also have my blog which is also just another 899 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 2: mummy blog. And then if you're after any cool planners 900 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 2: or notepaths, that's steph Pace. 901 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,720 Speaker 1: Planners amazing and trust me, guys like go for Steph 902 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: and just her stories. Just when you're cleaning up, like 903 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'll go and clean up. So it's 904 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: super motivating and it's good because you're so like real 905 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: and down to earth. Sometimes on Instagram I can feel 906 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,560 Speaker 1: like really boring because I'm like, oh, my life is 907 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: so mudane, I'm not holidaying in Mexico or like you know, 908 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,320 Speaker 1: like lots of influencers are doing like very crazy stuff 909 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: and you're just so down to earth, so realistic. I'm like, 910 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: just good, I feel myself all right. Well, thank you 911 00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:04,160 Speaker 1: so much. And that's a wrap on another episode of 912 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: the Rise and concor Podcast. 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