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Speaker 1: Get a I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter,

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Speaker 1: and professional oversharer. This podcast is all about celebrating failure

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Speaker 1: because I believe it's a chance for us to learn,

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Speaker 1: grow and face our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview

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Speaker 1: a different guest about their highs as well as their lows,

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Speaker 1: all in a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the pod. It is an Ossie guest. So

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Speaker 1: for Aussie listeners, if you're a Master Chef fan, there's

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Speaker 1: a good chance you're going to be a Dan Churchill fan. Now.

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Speaker 1: He's a performance chef. He's got an amazing podcast called

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Speaker 1: The Epic Table. He also has a restaurant in New

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Speaker 1: York called Charlie Street. He also works with the Center

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Speaker 1: Team with Chris Hemsworth's app. He is unstoppable. I was

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Speaker 1: having so much fun just researching him because his YouTube

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Speaker 1: page is great. He's a regular on The Drew Barrymore Show.

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Speaker 1: Literally just absolutely killing it over here. He's been in America,

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Speaker 1: he's based in New York for seven years now, and

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Speaker 1: he's just going for it, like running at everything and

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Speaker 1: it's so inspiring. In this chat, we totally talk about

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Speaker 1: failure as well and lessons hard lessons is learnt along

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Speaker 1: the way, but it should genuinely just feel like two

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Speaker 1: mates just catching up. We figured out we've known each other.

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Speaker 1: We haven't seen each other for seven years, but we've

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Speaker 1: known each other for nine So I hope you love

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Speaker 1: this chat. It was so much fun to recall with him.

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Speaker 1: We had quite a small window of time and he

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Speaker 1: literally got his way over to me. We recorded, and

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Speaker 1: this there are no edits in this in this episode

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Speaker 1: at Also, what you hear is literally like I think

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Speaker 1: he'd probably been in the apartment for like three minutes,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, we're on a time schedule, we

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Speaker 1: have to start recording. And we It was, literally, like

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Speaker 1: I said, two old mates catching up. So I hope

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Speaker 1: you love it. I hope it's inspiring. He's a very

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Speaker 1: inspiring human. And yeah, meg a love and thank you

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Speaker 1: Dan for jumping on the pod. You're a legend, Dan Churchill.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel I feel like you don't need an introduction.

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Speaker 1: I've got a long standing friendship. But Performance Chef podcast

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Speaker 1: host I have been binge listening. You've also got YouTube

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Speaker 1: clips of it, but mainly binge listening, So it's called

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Speaker 1: the Epic Table. You're pod right. I wasn't gonna admit

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Speaker 1: this until we started heating record, But I have a massive,

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Speaker 1: like intellectual crush on David Sinclair. How amazing is that guy?

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Speaker 2: Oh man, he's just hear him talk about the words

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Speaker 2: Saitoon's and you just like it.

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Speaker 1: Quite gentle voice, super gentle. So he's like, I'm a

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Speaker 1: huge fan. Also Street in New York. Your is it restaurant? Cafe? Cafe?

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Speaker 1: What am I meant to call it?

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Speaker 2: I think just a restaurant, yeah, Like I mean, Ossie

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Speaker 2: cafe is the best way to position it. But considering

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Speaker 2: we're going to be doing dinner and all those kind

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Speaker 1: So I cannot wait to visit. I haven't been in

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Speaker 1: New York in years. Well can you over there?

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Speaker 2: Mate? Once it happened, I have.

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Speaker 1: To, I have to just do like I feel like

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Speaker 1: I love New York. Do you know? I don't want

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Speaker 2: Which won't tell anyone about that, but.

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Speaker 1: For work and career. It's for me. Los Angeles is

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Speaker 2: It's captivating it right, That's what's what why New York.

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Speaker 2: And I'm just like, have you been to New York?

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Speaker 1: I love the American opportunity. And that's what I'm really

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Speaker 1: excited to talk to you about jumping the pond because

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Speaker 1: you who did it before a lot of other people

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Speaker 1: were coming too. Year seven of you being in.

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Speaker 1: I remember a Vita mix a mix event we're I

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Speaker 1: It would have to well, I'm thirty six now, I

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Speaker 1: So that's when your me became mates because we were

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Speaker 1: in the like the influencer circle at the same time.

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Speaker 2: a watching George Gregan and Matt Burke and he's amazing, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: which I definitely know it. So you're a Bombers support, right,

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Speaker 2: So it's like watching James Hurda and I love my sport.

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Speaker 2: I love my sport. Watching Buddy Kicks and thousands of

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Speaker 1: Do you go for Sidney Swans one.

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Speaker 1: No, no, it makes total sense. Okay, But this is another

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Speaker 1: thing I didn't know about you. I did not even

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Speaker 2: it's like when you and I met, i'd done my

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Speaker 1: That's how again I didn't know you self published. So

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Speaker 2: in America so far. To write your own books, guys,

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Speaker 1: I always give peo. People ask me that a lot

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Speaker 1: do the hard yards, you're going to be you'll get there. Okay.

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Speaker 1: My last memory of seeing you in real life, I

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Speaker 1: So I know we've done the circuits together and kind

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Speaker 2: By the way, Monday.

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Speaker 1: And I was with my ex boyfriend who you're also

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Speaker 2: Must have been seven. I do remember that moment.

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Speaker 1: The last time I saw you in real life. That

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Speaker 2: So, oh god, this is crazy when just remember that time. Actually,

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Speaker 2: I was like, I missed Lola. I like, because you

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Speaker 1: Now. I'm gonna maybe embarrass you here. I feel like

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Speaker 2: He was like, absolutely, he go for it.

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Speaker 1: got that whole vibe down, Pat, And I wanted to

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Speaker 1: I've seen you be interviewed about this and I was like,

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Speaker 1: about intrinsic motivators, Can you explain to the listener what

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Speaker 2: form of motivation intrinsic. Now, Intrinsic means it comes from

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Speaker 2: without a doubt, one of the best written books in

435
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Speaker 2: the world, across any form of industry.

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Speaker 1: I binge read, so the proof is in the plants.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's not. I binge read that in

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Speaker 1: three days.

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Speaker 2: That's craz He didn't something do two and you were annoyed?

440
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Speaker 2: Type over here, Oh so good determination, you're gonna do

441
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Speaker 2: well here. It's great competitive manner. Also going to do

442
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Speaker 2: well over here. But yeah, so I think those and

443
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Speaker 2: then combine that with I do love reading people like uh,

444
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Speaker 2: what's his name Teddy Roosevelt River of Doubt reading that

445
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,760
Speaker 2: book on him, and the most honestly one of the

446
00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 2: most amazing ones was Leonardo da Vinci reading his living

447
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,880
Speaker 2: like learning about him. I think, like, I don't want

448
00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 2: to say like I relate to him, but in so

449
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 2: many ways he's an entrepreneur and people don't realize that

450
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:56,359
Speaker 2: he was like a producer, a Broadway creative. He helped

451
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Speaker 2: create motes and things like this is an architect even

452
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Speaker 2: before pain and it's just like, this guy has so

453
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Speaker 2: many things going on, and he was like he was

454
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Speaker 2: like one of the first well known plant based legends too,

455
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Speaker 2: and he was gay, like legend I love. Yeah, it

456
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Speaker 2: was cool.

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Speaker 1: I find autobiographies or biography is so inspiring, especially if

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling a bit stuck or like fearful. I'm like,

459
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Speaker 1: let's just read somebody really courageous, totally totally, And because

460
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Speaker 1: you're a massive sports person, there are so many good

461
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Speaker 1: sports people out there. I'm going through a real Formula

462
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Speaker 1: one phase at the moment because of that Drive to

463
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Speaker 1: Survive show on Netflix, and I'm like, Okay, I need

464
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Speaker 1: to read this book. I I want to learn how

465
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Speaker 1: to have that like race car driver mentality.

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Speaker 2: Get you said one of the formula. One of it's

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Speaker 2: oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Okay, guys, you're hearing it on the podcast. So there's

469
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Speaker 1: something I really want to talk to you about because

470
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Speaker 1: I love the way you speak to this. But I

471
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Speaker 1: also have experienced this really quickly in the last week

472
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Speaker 1: of being in la and I kind of thought I'd

473
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Speaker 1: outgrown this part of myself and I kind of quickly

474
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Speaker 1: tripped me up to give me a great lesson in resilience.

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Speaker 1: But can you talk to me about like learning about

476
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Speaker 1: having fake friends versus real friends?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Man, I've learned, particularly living in America, who your

478
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,679
Speaker 2: true friends are because there are snakes, so people who

479
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 2: want things from you, they're like I've got a lot

480
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Speaker 2: of friends who are prolific in this world, and so

481
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Speaker 2: I found out that just you know, people want to

482
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Speaker 2: know me because of wanting to get in touch with

483
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Speaker 2: those people, so they're not real friends. If I wasn't,

484
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Speaker 2: you know, a chef with a profile, the people that

485
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Speaker 2: have around me wouldn't care because they like me for

486
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Speaker 2: who I am. But that took me a while to

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Speaker 2: realize because I had brands, agents, people around me who

488
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Speaker 2: just wanted to do stuff with me because of the

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Speaker 2: money they were getting or the people I was associated with.

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Speaker 2: And so that was a really hard lesson because when

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Speaker 2: shit doesn't go well, you want your friends to be

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Speaker 2: with you, good or bad. And I learned the hard

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Speaker 2: way that, you know, I didn't have a lot of

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Speaker 2: I didn't at the time have as many friends that

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Speaker 2: I thought were true to me as I thought that,

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Speaker 2: So it was tough. But I think that's a great

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Speaker 2: learning lesson for me to the point now where I

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Speaker 2: register to other people like is that person actually after

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Speaker 2: something for you? Or do they actually have a give

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Speaker 2: a shit about you? And if they don't, then it's

501
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Speaker 2: probably not worth your time.

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Speaker 1: I always think when the chips are down, the real

503
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Speaker 1: ones are there to at like without even.

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Speaker 2: Questions to answer it.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you've spoken about so beautifully and I really

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Speaker 1: appreciate you saying that because I think, especially working in

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Speaker 1: the entertainment industry, there are a lot of sharks, and

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Speaker 1: I know there are in every industry, but it does

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Speaker 1: feel like, I don't know if it feels like it's

510
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Speaker 1: here more than even Australia are a little bit. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: who's on my team here? It's a little bit hard

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Speaker 1: to figure out.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of funny because in Australia we talk about

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Speaker 2: sort of time top popy syndro is a thing. But

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Speaker 2: at least your mates give you shit in a way

516
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Speaker 2: because they care about you. Over Here, they'll they'll just

517
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Speaker 2: flat out light to you in a way that's like

518
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Speaker 2: not everyone's like that, but there is this they do

519
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 2: garner success over they want you to succeed. But sometimes

520
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Speaker 2: people want you to succeed so they can pull something

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Speaker 2: from you. And I just yeah, I think the biggest

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Speaker 2: lesson I always say to people is know who your

523
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Speaker 2: true friends are and that sometimes you will have to

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Speaker 2: learn it the hard way, but that just remember that moment.

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Speaker 2: So when you do start hanging out with people who

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Speaker 2: you care about, they're not talking about all the time

527
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Speaker 2: with what you do. Like my mates, like in New York,

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Speaker 2: my true friends, they actually have no idea what I

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Speaker 2: do today. Like it's the best feeling because like they'll not.

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Speaker 1: Maverick too, So like Maverick would be really good bullshit detector.

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Speaker 2: That's a good bullshit detect animal, being.

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Speaker 1: Like that's a dickhead. That's a legend.

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Speaker 2: He's also just a legend in himself. He's just like,

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Speaker 2: oh yeah, I don't know if you saw a follow

535
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Speaker 2: a story the other day. But I came home. I'm

536
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Speaker 2: like I had a deadline with his recipes to complete

537
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Speaker 2: and it was like an hour just I come home

538
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Speaker 2: and always just licking my face and like jumping all over.

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Speaker 1: He loves getting in your space in new time, especially

540
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Speaker 1: you're reading coffee time.

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Speaker 2: He's like, this is our times, my bro, He's my

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Speaker 2: little bro.

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Speaker 1: If I'm obsessed with animals, I can't tell you enough. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I have to ask, is it true that you're resting

545
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Speaker 1: heart rate is twenty seven beats per minute? Because I

546
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Speaker 1: thought I was a fucking legend and fifty it's awesome. No,

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Speaker 1: it's it's like there's a massive difference. There is a

548
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Speaker 1: massive difference between that. Like literally, so I've got one

549
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Speaker 1: of those little oximeter things at home. Yeah, and I'd

550
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Speaker 1: be like ninety eight are we for a ninety eight

551
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Speaker 1: percent oxygen? Maybe fifty fifty and we'll all both we'll

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Speaker 1: both try and just get below fifty and fight over

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Speaker 1: who can get there.

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Speaker 2: It's like slow breathing sympathetic activation, pat sympathetic activation.

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Speaker 1: That's yeah, after like doing what I'm just super super chill.

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Speaker 1: But that's true.

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Speaker 2: That's true.

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Speaker 1: Is that like because you are, like you have trained

559
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Speaker 1: over so many years.

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Speaker 2: It's definitely a combination of that. He's probably sitting at

561
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Speaker 2: about thirty one right now. I'm having your lovely coffee,

562
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Speaker 2: so it's about thirty four maybe, but yeah, typically it's

563
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Speaker 2: around the thirty month. Twenty seven is unofficially the world record.

564
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Speaker 2: So like there's there's a dude who was twenty eight

565
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Speaker 2: and he's like a sixty five year old legend. So

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Speaker 2: Lance Armstrong thirty one one or thirty two, you're like

567
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Speaker 2: a race horse.

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Speaker 1: You must have Do you have a bigger heart? Director?

569
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Speaker 2: I probably do have a heart. So my stroke volume.

570
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Speaker 2: So how this works is your your cardiac apput, which

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Speaker 2: is the combination of product of your stroke volume, how

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Speaker 2: much blood per beat you pump plus your heart rate,

573
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Speaker 2: so times or two together and you get your amount

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Speaker 2: of blood you pump around the heart per minute. So

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Speaker 2: in order to say everyone pumps a certain amount equally,

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Speaker 2: just hypothetically, but I have less heart rate, meaning that

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Speaker 2: my blood would have to be pumped twice as much

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Speaker 2: typically for the average person, say sixty sixty per second.

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Speaker 2: I would have to pump twice as much blood per

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Speaker 2: beat to make sure that my body circulates as much

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Speaker 2: blood around the body. So mental like cool, yeah, it's

582
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Speaker 2: really awesome, and.

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Speaker 1: I imagined great for longevity too. Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I was actually having a good conversation with both

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Speaker 2: doctor Andrew Chubman and also Sinclair, and you know, they

587
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Speaker 2: were it's shocked that that.

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Speaker 1: Was actually David because he's forty three, I think, and

589
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Speaker 1: he was like, oh, that's that's pretty good.

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00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 2: That's right, which means him is excited by it. It's

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Speaker 2: funny like, well, during COVID, every time you went and

592
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Speaker 2: got tested, you have your heart rate checked. Oh really,

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Speaker 2: And so I had surgery when I was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: my shoulder ten years ago, and at that time, the

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Speaker 2: you know, the a ethesis was pretty concerned when they

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Speaker 2: put me under, But since then I hadn't get my

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Speaker 2: heart rate checked. But up until now, I got my

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Speaker 2: heart checked, you know, every time you went and got

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Speaker 2: a PCR something test. And so every single time I

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00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 2: have like five doctors come in and go are you okay?

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Speaker 2: Are you all right? Are you relaxed? Are you good?

602
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,800
Speaker 2: And like I almost have to have like a doctor's

603
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Speaker 2: note to say, I'm fine, but it's an interesting one.

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Speaker 2: It is an interesting one.

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Speaker 1: I thought i'd misheard it the first time I got

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Speaker 1: and I was like, that is a fun superpower to have.

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00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: Say can we health nerd out a little bit? Because

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Speaker 1: I love when you go down the health nerds do it.

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Speaker 1: So you're currently on a plant based challenge, not challenge,

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Speaker 1: but journey for ten.

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Speaker 2: I just finished it, but I'm effectively still plant based

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Speaker 2: except for one meal.

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Speaker 1: What so because I after reading Simon's book and having

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Speaker 1: him on, I'm like, okay, Lola.

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Speaker 2: Me you and I went through the whole paleo phase

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Speaker 2: and the gluten fee and thele phase and we did everything.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, it's it's been amazing. Like I the reason

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Speaker 2: why I did my ten week journey was I had

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Speaker 2: a bunch of my followers say there is no way

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Speaker 2: you can build lean muscle of a plant based diet.

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Speaker 2: So I decided to do a YouTube series on it

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Speaker 2: and progress showing my progress. And so after six weeks,

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Speaker 2: I put on about like four pounds. My target was ten.

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Speaker 2: After ten and I was very I did a photo

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Speaker 2: I looked very lean, like I was like lean but strong.

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Speaker 2: But then after nine weeks, I was nine and a

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Speaker 2: half pounds heavier and I was still lean, and I

628
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: was like, dude, you can do this. It is so achievable.

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Speaker 2: And I reflected, I'm like, if I honestly look at

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Speaker 2: a meal now, I grew up thinking, Okay, breakfast got

631
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 2: to have eggs, Lunch has gotta have two lunches with

632
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: chicken and whatever fish, whatever it is, and even dinner.

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00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: Like I've said this before with athletes. And then as

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Speaker 2: I always talking about eating more plants, I'm like, you know,

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00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 2: I've always said you can get your amino acids from plants,

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00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 2: so I know we talk and particularly in your podcast

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00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 2: with Simon, you talk about the things that we can

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00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: find elsewhere, you know, whether it be vitamin D B twelve,

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00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 2: all those kind of things. So if you want to

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00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: listen to more about that, check out the Simon Hell podcast.

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Speaker 1: You've also done.

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00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I have, I have, But this is about

643
00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 2: your podcast, which you should also review.

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Speaker 1: I love you always. I'll have your pod in the

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00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: notes too, because it's un freakin real things and you've

646
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: got like so many guests, I'm like, oh my god,

647
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: these guests are insane.

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Speaker 2: Being an Aussie living in New York with the studio kitchen. Yeah,

649
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Speaker 2: definitely helps.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because everyone can just come and record.

651
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Speaker 2: Yeah, because everyone passed through New York everything that's cool.

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Speaker 2: Work being I'm like, I'm not a bad bloke to

653
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Speaker 2: hang out with too, So it does help, does help.

654
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Speaker 1: Okay, So we're pro plan based. I I'm really pro

655
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Speaker 1: intermittent fasting because I love David Sinkle. Ye, so talk

656
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Speaker 1: to me about because I think you do it a

657
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Speaker 1: little bit. You don't do it every day, is that correct?

658
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? So the community, the ep table community, we do

659
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Speaker 2: the first Monday to Friday of every month. Cool, So

660
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Speaker 2: every Monday Friday of the first full Monday the friday month,

661
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Speaker 2: we do it together. So you generally speak and go

662
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Speaker 2: from like eleven o'clock at night till a seven Yeah,

663
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Speaker 2: eleven o'clock a sorry, seven pm at night to eleven

664
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Speaker 2: am the next day. So we do a sixteen hour fast,

665
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Speaker 2: eight hour eating.

666
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Speaker 1: Yeah. I find it quite easy to do that ratio.

667
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 2: So easy, soup easy. When you're working in a restaurant

668
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Speaker 2: and you don't have time to make breakfast, it's a

669
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Speaker 2: extremely easy. Yeah.

670
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Speaker 1: Right, all all those good smells do you find? I

671
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 1: find my sense of smell goes through the roof when.

672
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 2: I'm fasting, all factory sensors, everything recept is. It's amazing

673
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: what hapened to the brain.

674
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Speaker 1: And do you feel really clear when you're into it

675
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Speaker 1: and fasting?

676
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely do. I think the biggest thing I

677
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:58,080
Speaker 2: get is I get I think the fogginess is the

678
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 2: one that goes away totally. And I also think I

679
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: handle It's really interesting because I'm typically if I'm hungry,

680
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: you don't want to be around me. Milena's like no,

681
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 2: She's like when I'm quiet, or like when I'm like

682
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 2: very short, She's like, I'm going to get your food.

683
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: I'm a boy. Yeah, yeah, she gets it. She started out.

684
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: She's awesome, but so like typically in a minute fasting,

685
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: I do get hungry the first day, but then afterwards

686
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm just able to be really clear. My articulation is

687
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: really good too, So I typically do podcasts. We try

688
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 2: to make them around that time. So fasting it's pretty awesome.

689
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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you. I'll always usually aim for

690
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 1: morning pods because you get this, like I think it's

691
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: called like verbal fluidity where you're just like, oh, where

692
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: that wad come from?

693
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: Totally fluidity. That sounds so you with fluidity.

694
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Speaker 1: Okay, we have to talk about coffee because I know

695
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,080
Speaker 1: you you've invested in a coffee coffee company as well.

696
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: Is that super coffee is super coffee? I told you,

697
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: I like, I went to buy one today and I

698
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 1: was like, no, not until he tells me what flavor

699
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: to get, because there are Mozillian flavors. I was looking

700
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 1: at caramel waffles, but then I saw cinnamon bute and

701
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: then I was like, oh my god, I just go

702
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Speaker 1: og like, I don't know what.

703
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm a dark. I like the ground. It's like,

704
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: I'm not a massive like I told the boys. Yeah,

705
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Speaker 2: I love the black coffee. I love the Hazese. N's

706
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: really Hazese, not ground coffee is good. The flavoring the

707
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 2: gepne is awesome. But if you're gonna do ready to

708
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 2: drink beverage, it's the moka, the coconut plant based moker.

709
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 2: And Simon Hill loves that too. He's a massive. Yeah,

710
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: so get the coconut mocha.

711
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Speaker 1: So you there are a lot of health benefits to

712
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: coffee too. How like, do do you keep coffee in

713
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: your world? No matter you've got your fancy kettle.

714
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 2: Now yeah I can't. Now it's like if I can't

715
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: drop it, I've got a very expensive for a kettle.

716
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: It's a very expensive kettle, right, so I'm going to

717
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: use it. But yeah, I think coffee to me is

718
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 2: I think it's more than just the flavor. It's like

719
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Speaker 2: what does coffee represent to me?

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Speaker 1: Totally?

721
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Speaker 2: And being an Aussie that's huge already, but too it's

722
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 2: also like it's that moment of therapy. It's that moment

723
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Speaker 2: of being together with myself and that sounds so weird,

724
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 2: but typically I have coffee. I have like a routine.

725
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: I have my coffee in the morning. I may have

726
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 2: a second coffee, you know, when it gets to work,

727
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 2: I'll rock in and like chef, you go like sweet

728
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: and then everyone knows, like chef wants a one afternoon?

729
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 2: What's an espresso after lunch? Right, it's to big power.

730
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Speaker 2: It works and it's like that's my thing, that's my theme.

731
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Speaker 1: Oh I love it. I love so I'm pro the

732
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Speaker 1: health benefits of coffee as well. I'm a big for me.

733
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Speaker 1: That's the way you talk about like you get up

734
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 1: and you read and you're like, I love that moment

735
00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: in the morning of just like mindfulness with my coffee.

736
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: It's such a special like especially and I think because

737
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Speaker 1: you can travel anywhere with coffee, and so it's wherever

738
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Speaker 1: you are in the world, you can have this little

739
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Speaker 1: moment of just.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, especially when it's got lines made like this

741
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Speaker 2: little bruth. This is very nice.

742
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Speaker 1: I'm so happy you like it. I have to say,

743
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Speaker 1: I you recently came into my world without you even

744
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: realizing it. When and this is not a plug for Amex,

745
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: but I got an Amex card and I got Center up.

746
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: It's it's connected it yeah, pushing it and I was like, oh,

747
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 1: hang on, I know this face when I was like

748
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: scrolling through all the recipes on the Center app so

749
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Speaker 1: congrats on being part of and being a Yogi as well.

750
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: Like there's some great yoga workouts on there for like restorative,

751
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: all more fiery, and so I was like, oh, this

752
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: is unreal.

753
00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

754
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,359
Speaker 1: I love You've got like salmon recipes on there, there's

755
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: smoothie recipes. I saw an egg scramble this morning.

756
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's awesome. It's a great. It's just a great

757
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: like the best thing about senators the community we have,

758
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,799
Speaker 2: like we have. We called them Center Legends. They rock

759
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: up at like my cafe and just be there like,

760
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: you know, Dan, and I'm like, we are on Center

761
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: and it's like you just like the whole family together.

762
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 2: It's like the one person who starts that will introduce

763
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Speaker 2: the rest of the family. The whole family.

764
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Speaker 1: We need to implement though. That's what's so good about Center.

765
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Speaker 1: Like I actually went to my boyfriend sister's place, you know,

766
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:44,520
Speaker 1: and they're like, we're gonna make it. We know you're

767
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: really healthy, Lola. We've found this shift from the Center

768
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 1: wrap called Dan, we're actually gonna make a rest And

769
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: I was like, he's my friend, I know him, and

770
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: it was like something I think it was salmon and

771
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: with humor or something religious. It's so eat. That's what

772
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: I love about the recipes. They're so so easy to

773
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 1: implement in your world, especially if your time poor too.

774
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 2: It's the idea. Yeah, And is it just.

775
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,320
Speaker 1: So fun to work with those legends.

776
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 2: Oh, it's the best thing ever, Like a shoot day

777
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,880
Speaker 2: like I was with Luke today. It's just like the

778
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,799
Speaker 2: we're twelve year olds. Yeah, honestly, it's a joke. It's

779
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 2: absolutely a joke. Like the fact that we get to

780
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: do this for a living, and you know, like particularly

781
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: now with what we're going to be cranking out in

782
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: North America as well, it's it's really exciting. I also,

783
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 2: I think as a as an Aussie, we have a

784
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 2: lifestyle in healthy worldness. That's like how you and I

785
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 2: are connected like that. That space is something that Sender

786
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: definitely does a really good job of like really instilling

787
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: that philosophy. I was into the rest of the world

788
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: of not just chicken and broccoli or like going to

789
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 2: the gym. It's like it's a lifestyle and so like

790
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: I hate using that last of the tone, but it's

791
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 2: like essentially an inspiring way to live your life outside

792
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 2: of just going to the gym and eating really boring food.

793
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:55,319
Speaker 2: So it's one of the best jobs ever, second to like,

794
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: you know, the tourism Australia stuff I get to do.

795
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: So yeah, I've been watching all your look speaking. I

796
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: saw you share this. He's on my pencil cases. Well

797
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: my stever, I'm obsessed with Steve.

798
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 3: No kidding, couldn't tell, couldn't So I'm looking at a

799
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 3: keyring guys, just to bring this to perspective, and there's

800
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,720
Speaker 3: you know you're caring and you typically have like one

801
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:16,640
Speaker 3: maybe thing.

802
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 2: She's got like four on here of Steve Irwin's like,

803
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: awesome shirt. I straa zoo. I don't even know we

804
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: call that.

805
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 1: This is those things. It's got your name on that.

806
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 1: There was no lowla, so I do use my real name.

807
00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: What was your real name, Lauren Smith? I had no idea.

808
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 2: Well, let's keep it a lola. I had no idea

809
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 2: about that. It's awesome.

810
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: But I saw when you were doing Tourism Australia stuff

811
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:40,880
Speaker 1: last night. There was a big to Steve her and

812
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 1: then he's like, insane, have you ever been to Australia Zoo?

813
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 2: I have actually never been to austral.

814
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: Tourism Australia to take you it is the best too

815
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: in the world. And they care for all their animals.

816
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: At four o'clock every day they put them in bigger paddy.

817
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: That's sick.

818
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 1: It's like all about animal conservation. And every since he

819
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: made he just bought more lands.

820
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: Like far out of even know that. It's terrible.

821
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: His what a legendary, a really really good human being.

822
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: Okay, next time I'm back in Australia, I make sure.

823
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: I have some good food and then get yourself to

824
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: Steve Ewen zoo. Okay, oh we got still stuff. I

825
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: want to ask you. I the thing that I think

826
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: I really am inspired most by about you is your mindset.

827
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: And you come across on all your like I have

828
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 1: binged you for three days straight now vlogs. Everything as

829
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 1: like this happy, go lucky, aussy guy that's obviously very

830
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: determined and driven. But underneath that there has to be

831
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: this kind of mindset that is hard working and like

832
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: driven and determined and full of gumption and tenacious. And

833
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:56,719
Speaker 1: I guess I want to know what makes you tick

834
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: like that mindset thing. It's like, what is it for you?

835
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: Like for me, like I love hard work. I enjoy it.

836
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: I enjoy the like feeling. So I enjoy and knock

837
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: back because then I'm like, oh I just got more resilient.

838
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: I enjoy that. But there's obviously something like that in

839
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,360
Speaker 1: you because you've decided to dig your feet in and

840
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: stay here when everything you know wasn't going your way.

841
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: You've stayed here throughout COVID and New York got hit

842
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: so hard. You know, like, what is is it something

843
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: that just is it? Like a goal that you're just like, Okay,

844
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: I've got this goal, I'm sticking at it, or is

845
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: it like no, I trust my instinct.

846
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 2: So you know, I don't think anyone's actually ever summated

847
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 2: me like that before, because you're at one hundred percent

848
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 2: correct I have. I wouldn't say what two sides who

849
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 2: I am? I am who I am, which is honestly

850
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: this like you'll see me catch up with people. I'm

851
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 2: always like I want to see the best in people.

852
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: I genuinely do so, like I'm happy, I'm excited, and

853
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 2: I love foods. It's really easy to hang out with me,

854
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 2: particularly everything the time. But if you speak to my

855
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 2: team you'll see that. But also this side of just

856
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: like determination, operator driven, wants to get the best out

857
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: of them and so therefore I have to be a leader.

858
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 2: And so for me, i've I would circle it back

859
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: to what I said earlier. It's like I have genuine

860
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 2: belief in what my team and I can achieve, and

861
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: I've always set out to do, and I look at

862
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 2: things in that that could be so much better, or

863
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: like we could have done that better, or this didn't

864
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: do well? Why not? And you can look at all

865
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: those things but I think the fundamental thing is I

866
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 2: wake up every single day not working, loving what I do.

867
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 2: So that's the fun side of what I do. But

868
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: in order for that to have that gumption, I have

869
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 2: to be driven towards a goal, and I think my

870
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: goal is to be in a position like our fundamental

871
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 2: thing is to help people eat like legends, that's what

872
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 2: we want to do. So what does that mean? Does

873
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 2: that mean the number of people following you know? Does

874
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 2: it mean number of will subscribe to something? You do?

875
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 4: Know?

876
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 2: It's ultimately like, we feel that when I can get

877
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: to a position where we are resourceful enough to help

878
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: build kitchens in third world countries, that will empower not

879
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 2: just give them food, but empower people to cook, find resources,

880
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 2: learn a skill. That is ultimately all is striving for.

881
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: In order to do that, I have to build up

882
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,240
Speaker 2: a profile to be a thought leader in the space

883
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,799
Speaker 2: that will allow me to have influence. And if I

884
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 2: tell people to go eat broccoli, they will eat broccoli

885
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: for the rest of their life. And that's the position

886
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 2: we want to get to. So that therefore I can

887
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: then go, all right, guys, let's flip the switch. Let's

888
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: go to Africa. Let's go to wherever we need to

889
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 2: and support the real important stuff and so cool.

890
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: It's I can see why you're sentspy by Jamie Oliver

891
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:54,240
Speaker 1: exactly fifteen Kitchen where he'd bring fifteen like troubled youth

892
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: off the streets and teach them how to cook and

893
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 1: then give them a.

894
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: Job honestly, dude, like I have. I have chef, so

895
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 2: like it's a like I never talked about this, but

896
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: here in the wages that we pay people in in

897
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 2: particularly New York, and like the living conditions, it's like

898
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: it's tough because even me owning a restaurant, I see

899
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 2: I see their checks right, and like, we pay well

900
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 2: above what the average person does, and I know what

901
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,239
Speaker 2: it's like to get to that position. But at the

902
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 2: same time, I every person who's come through our kitchen

903
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 2: has always got a story like anyone does. So it's

904
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: really broadened my horizon, particularly owning a restaurant and being

905
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 2: a chef in an American or North American country where

906
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 2: I'm the I'm like an outlier. I'm from somewhere else,

907
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,919
Speaker 2: and so I had to build respect within my own

908
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: kitchen to relate to these people because I don't initially,

909
00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: and so that was perspective for me because like the

910
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 2: drivenness to also be so close to home doing impacts

911
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,240
Speaker 2: so close to home, looking after my team and making

912
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,680
Speaker 2: sure they thrived was was huge. And so that's why

913
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: COVID was so tough for me, because like, you know,

914
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: you're trying to find ways to look after your team

915
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 2: who couldn't earn a living.

916
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,319
Speaker 1: You kept everything going with like a hole in the

917
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: wall right as that happened. That's insanely amazing. This incredibly

918
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: and you like had this community right where people that

919
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: the people that stuck around.

920
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 2: So for you know, six or seven months, Kale and

921
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: I okame my business partners, the operating partner just from

922
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 2: seven till four would operate the cafe just on our

923
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 2: own and seven days and then afterwards I do all

924
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 2: the content stuff with my team. And it was a

925
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: very tiring year. But the most as I look back

926
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 2: on it, it's like that kind of shit that I go,

927
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: I can do anything.

928
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know, yeah, yeah.

929
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 2: It's just like and I mean that not for me,

930
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 2: but like, no, that's true to exactly what.

931
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 1: It's resilience.

932
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got to be resilient.

933
00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: I think it was alliance is like the most one

934
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: of the most necessary values to have in America as

935
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: an outsider, like you said, because you do hit balls. Initially,

936
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: I remember I emailed twenty managers when I got here

937
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: last year, and I got one meeting and they were like,

938
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: you're too old, and I was like, oh fuck, oh,

939
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 1: I can't afford to take this on board. Right And

940
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: I right before I flew here this trip, I was

941
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 1: in acting school and this scene partner goes to me.

942
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: I was like, I go back to LA in two

943
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: weeks and she goes, I've heard if you're over thirty

944
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: you just won't make it. And I was like, thanks,

945
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 1: I can't afford to think like that.

946
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's you're cool, cool, coffee, coffee time, cheese, your edge.

947
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 1: But it's yeah, I love the way you talk about.

948
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,800
Speaker 1: Resilience's probably one of my favorite topics. There's an amazing

949
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: guy called that you would love in Australia called Huban

950
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: kyleen Berg, and he's got the Resilience Project. I'm going

951
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 1: to send you you stuff. It's right up your alley, Okay.

952
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: There are so many things I really want to talk

953
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: to you about, and I'm like, oh, I got to

954
00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 1: get through my list. It's right actually over here. Okay.

955
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 1: We mentioned this right before we hit record, and I

956
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: was surprised at your answer. Cool imposter syndrome. Do you

957
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: still get it?

958
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

959
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,839
Speaker 1: Of course you're working like today, Like, let's be honest,

960
00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: You've come from working with the Center team, which is

961
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: headed up by Chris Hemsworth like Thor himself. So you're

962
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: in with the giants right now, and that's so exciting

963
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: and unreal. And I believe, as someone watching you from

964
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:29,919
Speaker 1: the outside, you very much deserve to be there.

965
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 2: Thank you.

966
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: But I can imagine when you're standing there or in

967
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: this space, like I get it. Sometimes in acting class,

968
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,879
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, well, I shouldn't be here. People think

969
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,239
Speaker 1: I'm a nutritionists. I just shouldn't be here. What do

970
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 1: you do when that creeps in? You're on the Drew

971
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: Barrymore Show, that is massive, but you know.

972
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 4: Good Morning America like you've done like the Big Guns,

973
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 4: and how do you navigate your way through when you

974
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 4: have those moments of whether it be self doubt or

975
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 4: feeling like you've got imposter syndrome?

976
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's a great question. We I think everyone

977
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 2: has some sort of impulse syndrome. You said that everyone's

978
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 2: it's like a little or small. Like you said to me,

979
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: you deserve to be there. I know I deserve to

980
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 2: be there, like I work my ass off. And I

981
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,920
Speaker 2: also I'm the right person for that job. I'm Aussie,

982
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 2: I'm a chef. I have banter, like I fit in

983
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: with the community, don't get me wrong. Like that's the

984
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 2: American confidence I've learned to say, and anyone listening and

985
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 2: going and is the arrogance, like no, just just telling

986
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: it how it is.

987
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: Confidence is the other key you have to have here exactly.

988
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: And so like with Drew, like whenever I'm on that show,

989
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 2: I really feel at home.

990
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: But also she loves so obvious watching I watch five

991
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,680
Speaker 1: segments now, and she'll really like, she'll honestly want to

992
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 1: know the difference in the colors, the different colors of

993
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 1: sweet potato.

994
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 2: She's crazy, she's awesome, but she.

995
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 1: Genuinely want to hear what you have to offer.

996
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think you know, I'm thirty two, and

997
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 2: you and I have been doing this for some time now,

998
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 2: and despite only being our thirties, Like the kind of

999
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 2: the amount of experience we have in TV and in media,

1000
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 2: but as in cooking and understanding like even camera angles,

1001
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 2: Like I will rock into that kitchen and go like

1002
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,839
Speaker 2: I'm not the best time. I'm having an awesome time.

1003
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,879
Speaker 2: I know my job. But that's not where I get

1004
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 2: imposter syndrome. I get imposter syndrome probably more in the

1005
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: restaurant world really, so like I've got a I've got

1006
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: a really sick I can't really talk about it just yet,

1007
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 2: but like I've got a really cool consultant gig that

1008
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 2: I've just started with the hotel group.

1009
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 1: Do you have to tell me when you will?

1010
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,080
Speaker 2: I will, But the fact it's like I'm now like

1011
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 2: a pretty important piece of this growing, awesome on brand

1012
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 2: hotel company, and I have to be very important, like

1013
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: in terms of my decision making. And I'm like, like

1014
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 2: I came from the northern base of Sydney. I didn't

1015
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 2: work in any of the higher end restaurants. So that's

1016
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: where I get imposter syndrome. But then I have to

1017
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:56,160
Speaker 2: back myself and go, you know what, no fuck. The

1018
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 2: reason why you hear is they pick you for a

1019
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,400
Speaker 2: job that you actually and then you start to I

1020
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: use a lot of visualization. I also use a lot

1021
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 2: of positive reinforcement in those times. So I think in

1022
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:08,800
Speaker 2: answer your question, I get self, I get on poster

1023
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: syndrome being an Aussie chef in the restaurant world more

1024
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: than I do in the media side.

1025
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: That's it makes sense now that you've like the way

1026
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: you vocalized it. But also if we go back to

1027
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: like season five Master Share, that's right. But like you know,

1028
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: you're quite natural in front of a camera, and you

1029
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 1: are right, there is an art form to doing a

1030
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: food segment or a cooking segment on too well, but

1031
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: you know you can block. You can pick up a

1032
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: cup and then you've blocked the whole and all that

1033
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: you know, or you know you've grabbed the wrong beat

1034
00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 1: or I don't know what I've had like smoothie things

1035
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:39,359
Speaker 1: blow up.

1036
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've had. I've made corn for it this

1037
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,560
Speaker 2: one time and the actual hot plate wasn't even plugged in,

1038
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: so it was like it is so good.

1039
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,880
Speaker 1: But so I feel like that is like second nature

1040
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: to you because that skill set is now like super ingrained.

1041
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: I would say the same, like I've told you before this,

1042
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 1: like I really wanted to TV presenting an acting and

1043
00:47:56,719 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: TV presenting to me that feels like it's in my bones.

1044
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, not realize how energetic and positive and how she

1045
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 2: can really steer a conversation. Yeah, you can't perfect for it, dude.

1046
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: Acting is like oh yeah, like that's so scary, but

1047
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 1: then it makes me feel so alive, which is why

1048
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: I change it.

1049
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 2: That's awesome.

1050
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 1: But so that's why I hope that is the same

1051
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: for you with this. And I can't wait to hear

1052
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 1: I'll grill in more when we get off from recording. Okay,

1053
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:25,000
Speaker 1: So final question, and I know I asked, I asked

1054
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: so many people this. Oh, actually to give me too,

1055
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: give me two. So the final one is like, if

1056
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: we do look into a little magic time warp machine

1057
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: right now a couple of years from now, like like

1058
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: I can see you with your own show, like and

1059
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: even your podcast series. I'm like, oh, this is kind

1060
00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: of like that'd be a cool segment or you know

1061
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:45,000
Speaker 1: what I mean, like it. What's your goal for the

1062
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,040
Speaker 1: next few years that you're allowed to talk about?

1063
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally, I think, and any opportunity with partnerships or

1064
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 2: books or TV, everything is going to centralize back this

1065
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,280
Speaker 2: one thing, which to help people eat like a legend.

1066
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,320
Speaker 2: Will there be recipes online books, you know, the shows

1067
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 2: that I do. It's be helping people eat like a legend.

1068
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 2: So in a couple of years time, I can't tell you. Yeah,

1069
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 2: it's essentially like where I'm at right now, is I

1070
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 2: will be in a position where a lot more of

1071
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 2: my brand will be out there in certain areas. So

1072
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: whether it be I wouldn't say merchandising wise and that

1073
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:19,959
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, but people you will think of DC

1074
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,839
Speaker 2: or you think of recipe, and I'll be top of mind.

1075
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 2: That's that's the idea behind it.

1076
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: Anyway, Oh, I love that the.

1077
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 2: Ideas help people eat like a legend, So.

1078
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 1: I love it now. I can't end this pod without

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Speaker 1: asking you something about either fear or failing, because it's

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Speaker 1: called piously failing. So you can take your pick out

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Speaker 1: of the two words. Is there something that you fear

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Speaker 1: that you're willing to share with us or is there

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Speaker 1: a time where you've felt like you've failed and come

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Speaker 1: out the other side.

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Speaker 2: You can decide. I mean I would answer both. Let's

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Speaker 2: go fail. I think people learn more about the failing.

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Speaker 2: So I failed. I fail every day at something same

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Speaker 2: and I think it's awesome. I really do. We failed

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Speaker 2: a lot of things like my product right now initially failed.

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Speaker 2: The packaging we chose is this. Yeah, we did only

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Speaker 2: northeast of America because we would just do a beta test.

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Speaker 2: But like we were, we did some stuff. It didn't work,

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Speaker 2: Like there was the price point was too high, the

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Speaker 2: product was always getting torn in the bags. The direction

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Speaker 2: and content wasn't correct, it wasn't the right one appealing.

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Speaker 2: But from all that we gathered what does work, and

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Speaker 2: so then we you know, we changed the price point.

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Speaker 2: We've got a new copact like all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: I think more important to what you're talking about, though,

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Speaker 2: and something more about failing specifically is I came over

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Speaker 2: to the US and I failed because I failed to

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Speaker 2: learn that things are not what they seem until they are.

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Speaker 2: And so early on in my career here, the biggest

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Speaker 2: thing I learned, other than who your true friends were,

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Speaker 2: was I started working for a restaurant concept over here.

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Speaker 2: That was my base. That was like for the first

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Speaker 2: three years, I was sorted and set started working, and

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Speaker 2: I learned after four months not getting a single wage,

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Speaker 2: that the project was going to be pulled, and I

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Speaker 2: started doing anything. I was super excited, Like I was

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Speaker 2: just so excited by the opportunity that I realized that

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Speaker 2: things are not there until they're signed and you're actually happening.

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Speaker 2: And the reason why I say is there's been so

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Speaker 2: many times down the line that opportunities have happened, and

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Speaker 2: I haven't got excited because I don't want to get

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Speaker 2: set myself up for this expectation, nor do I want

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Speaker 2: to start doing anything that I need that I want

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Speaker 2: to because I just want to start the project and

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Speaker 2: they haven't come to fruition. In our world, particularly entertainment

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Speaker 2: entertainment space, things are moving all the time. A decision,

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Speaker 2: you know, COVID's a perfect situation. Before COVID, things are

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Speaker 2: on a streamline, and all of a sudden you have

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Speaker 2: these projects, like whether it be a traveling TV show

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Speaker 2: or like you know, you have yourself events lined up,

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Speaker 2: and all of a sudden they're all gone. And so

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Speaker 2: they're not there until they're there. And so I learned

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Speaker 2: that because it was huge for me in realizing in America,

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Speaker 2: particularly that you have to look after yourself and really

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Speaker 2: not let things get too heady yourself before they're actually there.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that. So it don't cat your chickens

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Speaker 1: before they hatch base exactly, wait till you've signed the

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Speaker 1: dotted line correct, because there's a famous saying like you'll

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Speaker 1: never have a bad meeting in La. Everyone's yes, people absolutely,

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Speaker 1: and then you kind of like walk away going, oh

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Speaker 1: I didn't I didn't actually hear anything from that. And

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Speaker 1: so it is like that, waiting for it to really

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Speaker 1: come to life.

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Speaker 2: Because everyone's too nice, they don't want to tell you

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Speaker 2: what actually is going on. It's not like if someone

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Speaker 2: came in and said, Lola, we need you to work

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Speaker 2: on being having an Italian accent because your current accent

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Speaker 2: does not suit the film. How much better would that

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Speaker 2: be than saying, Oh, you're fantastic, we love you. It's

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Speaker 2: like if you got that kind of feedback and you're like, fuck, okay, cool,

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Speaker 2: well sweet, can we come back in like six months.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do my Italian accent like you would. That's

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Speaker 2: the feedback you want. But you never get that. You

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Speaker 2: only just get like, oh you're awesome, and never hear anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. No, and you need to be able to grow

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Speaker 1: and betty yourself and build your I love that You're

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Speaker 1: a legend. Thank you for inspiring me so much today.

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Speaker 1: Dan Churchill I cannot wait to just keep watching what

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Speaker 1: unfolds you. And can we not leave it seven years

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Speaker 1: between the next ten?

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Speaker 2: That's always two olympiads. Husain Bolt almost got two old

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Speaker 2: records in that timeline. Let's not make this happen again.

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Speaker 2: Let's not make this happen again. Dude, Thanks for being you.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for your positivity and I really mean it

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Speaker 2: and saying that, like, you know, there's people you look

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Speaker 2: on this world. You are a true friend, someone I

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Speaker 2: can count on in even if I wasn't in media.

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Speaker 2: You are that kind of person. So thank you for.

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Speaker 1: Being you, and thank you for jumping on this pod

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Speaker 1: because I know we talked about it almost a year

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Speaker 1: ago and it didn't line up with when you were

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Speaker 1: in LA and I'm such a stickler for real life.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, school so much better. So I

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Speaker 1: really appreciate you like getting coming to me and hanging out.

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Speaker 2: I haven't seen it seven years. Thank you, Thank you,

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Speaker 2: like come on mate, come.

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Speaker 1: On, honestly, you're a legend. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Died.

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Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 1: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. I'm at Yamo Lollerberry. This potty my word

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Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love

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Speaker 1: it if you could subscribe, rape and comment, and of

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