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Speaker 1: Jomb mission with Jonesy and Amanda, We don't if.

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Speaker 2: I get a chance to talk to our next guest.

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Speaker 2: She's usually globe trotting around the world, but her story

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Speaker 2: on Sunday Nights Sixty Minutes is a very personal one,

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Speaker 2: so we're thrilled to have her on the show.

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Speaker 3: Liz hays High, Hello.

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Speaker 1: Liz Hi, Hello, how are you both?

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Speaker 3: Very well?

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Speaker 1: Very well?

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Speaker 2: What's COVID doing to sixty minutes? So where are you traveling?

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Speaker 2: What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, no, We're in lockdown like everybody else. I'm

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Speaker 1: trapsing around New South Wales.

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Speaker 3: Right, So you were you're looking at all the big

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Speaker 3: potato at Robertson and maybe the big braun about there

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Speaker 3: could be an insight on that.

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Speaker 1: I love them. I love them all.

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Speaker 2: Tell us about your story on Sunday Night. And I

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Speaker 2: know this is a very personal one about your dad.

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Speaker 1: Look it is. It started off with the death of

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Speaker 1: my dad as a result of well, a series of

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Speaker 1: medical errors that occurred that's ultimately ended in his death

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Speaker 1: and in a rural setting. And I guess from that

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Speaker 1: point I decided to find out why. In my dad's case,

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Speaker 1: it was a simple era of failing to write down

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Speaker 1: a medication that he that was vital for him, and

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Speaker 1: I wondered, how on earth can that happen? You know

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Speaker 1: what It's like, you start peeling back and before you

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Speaker 1: know it, it gets a bit ugly. And that's really

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Speaker 1: where it began.

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Speaker 2: And were the things that happened in your dad's situation

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Speaker 2: intrinsically occurring because it was in a rural setting.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I believe so. I think medical errors happen in

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Speaker 1: all hospitals potentially, but in the rural areas of Australia

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Speaker 1: and in the area that my dad was in, it

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Speaker 1: was probably more likely to happen because of the incredible

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Speaker 1: pressure on the health system. And it is a truth

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Speaker 1: to say that distance is a disadvantage. You will not

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Speaker 1: get the same health care and resources that you could

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Speaker 1: expect in the city. And by the way, country people

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Speaker 1: don't expect to have brain surgery and open heart surgery

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Speaker 1: necessarily in their country town hospital, but they do expect

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Speaker 1: a right and to receive good basic care.

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Speaker 3: So very much if your dad was in a city,

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Speaker 3: he would still be.

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Speaker 1: With us, I would like to think so. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think everybody was the eras have been acknowledged by

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Speaker 1: the way, and everybody has said they're terribly sorry. But

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Speaker 1: I would like to think that, you know, the safety

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Speaker 1: nets would have been in place in a city which

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Speaker 1: simply didn't appear to be in place in the country.

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Speaker 1: And look, as I said, you keep peeling away at

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Speaker 1: this and you find that there are all sorts of

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Speaker 1: reasons that occur for mistakes. A lot of it is

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Speaker 1: a warmer silence. Well, a lot of it is professionals,

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Speaker 1: medical healthcare professionals not being able to speak up. They

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Speaker 1: are frightened of losing their jobs. So a lot of

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Speaker 1: the information you'll see in my story on Sunday Night

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Speaker 1: also comes from those of the Call faith who say,

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Speaker 1: you know, who are begging for a better outcome for

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Speaker 1: their patients.

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Speaker 3: That must be hard for you as well, being a subject.

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Speaker 3: And there's a lot of stories where you're not the

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Speaker 3: subject of the story, but here you are, and it's

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Speaker 3: something deeply as personal as losing your father.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I won't ever do that again, obviously, but I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to do that. I didn't really want to

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Speaker 1: have to tell this story because it is so hard,

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Speaker 1: it is so painful, it is so raw. But I

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Speaker 1: couldn't look away. I couldn't go somewhere else. I couldn't

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Speaker 1: I just had to tell the story. And I really

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Speaker 1: did feel also that if I didn't tell the story,

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Speaker 1: I'd somehow let my dad down, the people in rural

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Speaker 1: districts down, and it might have sent a message to

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Speaker 1: those who know they should be doing better as well

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Speaker 1: that it's okay. You know, if I can't bring them

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Speaker 1: to account, then they won't probably have to be held

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Speaker 2: Oh it's hard, and I guess there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: other families who have come out of the woodwork sharing

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Speaker 2: your story.

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Speaker 1: Liz, of course, of course. I mean that's the first

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Speaker 1: thing that happened was I was stopped by a nurse

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Speaker 1: in the ward that dad was in to say, you know,

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Speaker 1: I understand how you feel because this is exactly what

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Speaker 1: happened to my own dad. And it's like what you

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Speaker 1: and you work in the system. I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: it is such a terrible scenario, and you know this

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Speaker 1: isn't a third world country, and our medical services are

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Speaker 1: very good in Australia, but there is a disadvantage by

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Speaker 1: being at a distance, and there is a disadvantage if

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Speaker 1: you live in rural areas and if you don't make

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Speaker 1: a noise sight unseen, nobody will take notice. Everybody in

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Speaker 1: the country is usually well. Many people in country areas

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Speaker 1: are older, many of them are conservatives, many of them

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Speaker 1: don't want to rock the boat. Many of them think

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Speaker 1: this is their lot, and many of them think, well,

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Speaker 1: nobody really cares.

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Speaker 3: Well weekend, Liz and your dad would be very proud

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Speaker 3: of you. We'll be watching this on Sunday night. And

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Speaker 3: could it be more than ten years since we catch

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Speaker 3: up with you again? Like the last time we spoke

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Speaker 3: was ten years ago?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, in ten more years years.

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Speaker 2: You'll be traveling again.

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Speaker 3: Would I'd say we'll be back announcing bto Liz.

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Speaker 2: And hopefully you'll still be at sixty minutes, but you'll

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Speaker 2: be traveling again.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh that would be nice, wouldn't it. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for your time today, appreciate

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Speaker 3: Listen this sixty minutes eight to forty Sunday night on

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Speaker 3: Channel Night with and Amanda