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Speaker 1: For the first twenty years of her career, has Burbage

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Speaker 1: Australian championships, with her focus set on fulfilling her Olympic dream.

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Speaker 1: But then she discovered her true passion mountain bike riding

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Speaker 1: and hasn't looked back since, going on to podium multiple

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Speaker 1: times and even race in the coveted Red Bull Rampage.

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Speaker 1: But in twenty twenty four, Has suffered what she thought

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Speaker 1: to be a broken hand, which later turned out to

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Speaker 1: be a broken hand, wrist and neck. Lucky to be

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Speaker 1: where she is, Has has since been on an incredible

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Speaker 1: journey to get back on the bike and return to

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Speaker 1: the competitive slope style scene. Welcome back to the Female

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Speaker 1: Athlete Project and thanks for pressing play on today's episode.

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Speaker 1: My name is Sophie the producer here at TEFAPP and

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Speaker 1: this week Chloe sits down with Has Burbidge Smith as

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Speaker 1: she gears up to take on the twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: Slope Style season. Has opens up on the decision to

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Speaker 1: choose a sport for fulfillment rather than societal expectation, learning

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Speaker 1: to embrace her fear to take on gnarly tricks and

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Speaker 1: her emotional journey to getting back on the bike just

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Speaker 1: six months after surgery. This weekend, Has will compete in

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Speaker 1: crank Works christ Church as a wild card out to

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Speaker 1: show herself and her fellow writers why she deserves a

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Speaker 1: spot on tour.

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Speaker 2: We hope you enjoyed this episode. As Burbige Smith, Welcome

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Speaker 2: to the Female Athlete Project.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me, thank.

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Speaker 2: You for being here. You are about to kick off

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Speaker 2: on the weekend. But before we chat all things on

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Speaker 2: the bike. Can you describe as as a little kid.

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Speaker 3: I think my only memories of a child is like

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Speaker 3: what my parents have said, they were like, what can

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Speaker 3: we find because clearly like this is what she wants

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Speaker 3: to do all the time, And they found the local

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Speaker 3: be An X track which I started out when I

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Speaker 2: Go in the car putting your so I was like,

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Speaker 3: The traffic lights. The next turn, We're going to be there,

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Speaker 3: saving time. And yeah, I did all that. I did

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Speaker 2: What is it that you love about being on a bike.

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Speaker 3: I think it just being on a bike feels like myself.

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Speaker 3: It feels more natural. I feel more comfortable doing that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really cool. Why BMX in the early days,

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Speaker 2: How was it when you first kind of made the switch?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I don't think it was anything crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's really cool. Can you give us You've said lots

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Speaker 3: some people love to have like everyone behind them and

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00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 3: like that kind of pressure and everyone hyping them up

436
00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 3: and really intense kind of thing, and other people like

437
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 3: to just be in the head, quiet, relaxing and do

438
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,680
Speaker 3: it themselves. So it's like I think for a long time,

439
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,400
Speaker 3: I thought there was only one way, so I thought

440
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,040
Speaker 3: that I couldn't do it. Or you see other people

441
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 3: how they do and you try to mirror that and

442
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 3: it doesn't work for you. But I think that would

443
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 3: be like when I give advice on how to push yourself,

444
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,160
Speaker 3: and like I say, like you figure out what works

445
00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 3: for you, like experiment and understand. Oh that made me

446
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,000
Speaker 3: super confident. Well that got me super harp to that day,

447
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,879
Speaker 3: and like just keep remembering all of that and like

448
00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 3: building this, just building little stones, and then it gets

449
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:33,040
Speaker 3: a point where you're just you trust yourself so much,

450
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 3: you trust your skills so much. Like the only thing

451
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 3: I now think about is if the speed's correct and

452
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 3: I'm relaxed, it'll go because I trust my skills kind

453
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: of thing, and that's come from years of building up

454
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 3: those sort of bricks and you obviously eat this. Sometimes

455
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,040
Speaker 3: it goes down like you have a crash on injury

456
00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 3: and you take a few back, but you keep building

457
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 3: it back up. It's not just like one or the

458
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 3: other or just like an on and off. It's like

459
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 3: years or like years of doing it and years of

460
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:03,000
Speaker 3: like repetitively remembering and giving yourself that kind of props

461
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 3: when you do gnarali things.

462
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,360
Speaker 2: I guess I really like that do it to your comfy.

463
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 2: I feel like that could be a little tag line

464
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 2: for something quite because I feel like that can apply

465
00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 2: to a lot of people in life right, Like they

466
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,520
Speaker 2: don't have to be jumping off mountains. They could be

467
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 2: doing something that feels scary to them.

468
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,560
Speaker 3: For sure, and I think we'll do that one scary

469
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 3: thing and then they think, oh, that's it. I kind

470
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 3: of it's like, Okay, would you go back and do

471
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 3: it again? Yeah, And it's like you kind of have to.

472
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 3: It was like like flips for me, that was a

473
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,080
Speaker 3: huge mental battle for a long time, like I didn't

474
00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: even want to do one, like just standing on a trampoline,

475
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 3: like I just hated that I couldn't my brain couldn't

476
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,439
Speaker 3: even process it, and it was just really weird. And

477
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 3: there was this event in crank Works called spin Star,

478
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,639
Speaker 3: which is kind of like ju slalom when it's kind

479
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 3: of like Mogules that mogules actually where it's a race,

480
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: but there's two trick jumps and you get scored on

481
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 3: the tricks and your time and it's head to head

482
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 3: and that kind of for the women was starting to

483
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:01,240
Speaker 3: get bigger and have I was really and I had

484
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 3: small tricks and I did reasonably well, got a couple

485
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 3: of podiums and things like that, but my friend Robin

486
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 3: was flipping and there was a few other girls I

487
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:12,600
Speaker 3: was startying to and I realized one day I was like, damn,

488
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,919
Speaker 3: that's like I don't care about being on the podium,

489
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 3: that I'm not pushing myself and doing those kind of tricks.

490
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 3: And that was a big one for me. And so yeah,

491
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 3: I build myself up to do the flips and then

492
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 3: I took them to crank Works and you have to

493
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: do it like sixteen times in one day because you're

494
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 3: doing practice qualifying on both sides, and then you're doing

495
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 3: quarter semis finals, which is you have to do both

496
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 3: sides for every round of that. So when from doing

497
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 3: my first one to having to do like sixteen in

498
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 3: a day, and then all of a sudden, you're like,

499
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 3: oh wow, I've done a million of these now, so

500
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: you're going from zero to doing a thousand in like

501
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 3: a season, and then it's dialed. So that was really

502
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 3: good for me. That, like putting yourself to have to

503
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 3: do it that many times, goes from it being this

504
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 3: huge thing to something that you've done a hundred times.

505
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 3: So I think that was amazing and I would recommend

506
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 3: that as a good, good idea to.

507
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 2: Something sixteen times a day and then you will be

508
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 2: good at it.

509
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 3: I like getting to pass out in a race.

510
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to touch on you said there

511
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 2: about if you were like getting podium finishes, but you

512
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 2: weren't like really challenging yourself.

513
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 3: What is it?

514
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 2: What is it that drives you? Is it winning or

515
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 2: is it just really pushing yourself to kind of challenge

516
00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 2: what you maybe once thought was possible.

517
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that point that was kind of when

518
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 3: I was still doing all the events and crank works,

519
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 3: and my strength was definitely raising, like the slalom and

520
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 3: things like that, because I came from BMX and I

521
00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 3: could not gonna lie get away with being fast enough

522
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,160
Speaker 3: in speed and style and my tricks weren't that good

523
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: and I think, I don't know, I just remember watching

524
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:56,240
Speaker 3: some of the girls throw down big tricks and still

525
00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 3: not do well because of the speed aspect, and I

526
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: was like, wow, that's not ourally fulfilling me as much.

527
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 3: And I just was like, okay, I I think I

528
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 3: actually like told everyone, after one of the last speed

529
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: styles where I wasn't doing any really cool tricks, I

530
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 3: was like the next like crank works, it was like

531
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 3: in a couple months time, like if I'm not flipping,

532
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: like I'm not gonna do it, Like I'm just gonna

533
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 3: pull out because like I it's not I don't feel

534
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,160
Speaker 3: like it's me and it's not fulfilling, and it's also

535
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 3: just yeah, I just felt almost embarrassed to be there

536
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,840
Speaker 3: doing like little tricks and things like that because I

537
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 3: was like, this isn't progressing the sport, this isn't progressing me.

538
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was my thing. And then I think

539
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,639
Speaker 3: I did one or two to dirt a couple of

540
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 3: weeks before that one, which was Crank Works in Whistler.

541
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 3: And then I got there and I was like, okay,

542
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,439
Speaker 3: and I think I in practice I crashed the first

543
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,479
Speaker 3: flip and then but that's almost all you need because

544
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 3: as soon as you do that, you feel the rotation,

545
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 3: you feel the ramp, and you know it's gonna work.

546
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 3: And then yeah, and then did didn't in qualities, didn't

547
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 3: my first two runs of quarterfinals got knocked out, but

548
00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 3: I felt so much more fulfilled and like motivated. And

549
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 3: then and then two months later, I think they had

550
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 3: the cans crime Works and it'd been a little while

551
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: since I've done a flip. I remember I didn't do

552
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,920
Speaker 3: it during practice, and then I didn't do it during qualifiers.

553
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 3: But qualifiers were on I believe the Friday, and then

554
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 3: finals were on the Saturday, and Saturday morning. I was like, no, like,

555
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 3: we're gonna do this, like I'm gonna go out there.

556
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 3: Who cares? And yeah, pulled them up for all the

557
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 3: runs and then ended up winning it and was super stoked.

558
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: And that was kind of like a breakthrough of like, yeah,

559
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: knowing that that aspect of like progressing my skills and

560
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: like pushing myself through tricks was more fulfilling than the

561
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 3: racing and maybe potentially like some of the podiums or

562
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 3: things like that and just really pay off for me.

563
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 3: And that felt so much better than any anything else

564
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 3: because it was truly like a push myself to get

565
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 3: to that point of being comfy with them.

566
00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: And was there a level of respect that you felt

567
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 2: from your mates and competitors doing that, like stepping up

568
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: to that level?

569
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, I think we all have such

570
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 3: a level of respect and understanding when we know that

571
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 3: they've worked and pushed and they're out of their comfort

572
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 3: zone for things, and yeah, I think it's just but

573
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 3: I think just yeah, for me, it was like a

574
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 3: it was important to me for sure.

575
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four was the year that slopestyle and rampage

576
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,960
Speaker 2: were introduced for women for the first time. Yeah, what's

577
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: it been like to I guess experience being part of

578
00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 2: you touch on a couple of the trailblazers, but being

579
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: part of this generation of women who get to compete

580
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 2: in these epic events.

581
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's super exciting. It was also super intimidating,

582
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 3: like you're coming into a sport that's had men doing

583
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 3: it for fifteen years or whatever, coming into an audience

584
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 3: that was not always positive, and a lot of pressure

585
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 3: to perform. And I think the first one we did

586
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 3: in crank Works in Rotorua, for US women, I did

587
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 3: feel an immense amount of pressure because I felt like

588
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 3: if I didn't do well, it would reflect badly on

589
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 3: the entire women's free ride scene and things like that,

590
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,920
Speaker 3: and that's kind of a unique pressure on us women.

591
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: I feel like the men have a privilege of being

592
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 3: able to just focus on themselves and their own run

593
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: and if they do badly, that's not going to impact

594
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: any of the other men. But I did feel like

595
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 3: if we don't put on a good show, we could

596
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,479
Speaker 3: get peeken out of crank Work, so we could not

597
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 3: get this opportunity again. So you have that kind of

598
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: double pressure. But it was great though, I went that

599
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,040
Speaker 3: we all did it together and I think it went amazing,

600
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 3: and yeah, I was really happy with how they went

601
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: and it kind of built up a lot of confidence.

602
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 3: And yeah, it was hard because we don't actually train

603
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: on those courses until you get into cank Works for

604
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: those events, so you're automatically going onto a bigger course

605
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 3: with a different radius of ramp, different size gap jumps.

606
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 3: So I've only flipped on the smaller speed style ramps.

607
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,880
Speaker 3: Like you don't really get to train on a sloptell

608
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 3: course unless you're in it. So you're not only like

609
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 3: getting into a new event, but you're also trying to

610
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:24,120
Speaker 3: take all your tricks to like a completely different style,

611
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,040
Speaker 3: like I guess that jumps like you just had to.

612
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 3: I think my first flip, I've over rotated because I

613
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: wasn't used to how slow you had to flip because

614
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 3: you had probably like double the airtime of a speed

615
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 3: star course. Wow, so you had to be so much

616
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,600
Speaker 3: more lazy with the rotation and slow it down so

617
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: much more and like a little adjustments like that. Happening

618
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,560
Speaker 3: to do that during an event week is a lot.

619
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:48,800
Speaker 3: So it was really like amazing to be able to

620
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 3: like build up my skills throughout the season, being able

621
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 3: to ride bigger courses and changing all of my trucks

622
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 3: to like kind of adjust to those kind of things.

623
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 2: And was it also twenty twenty four when you had

624
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: your injury to your hand and to your wrist and

625
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: my neck and your neck so how to crash had

626
00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: the fractures? Did you push your bike back up and

627
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: then went again with those fractures? What was going through

628
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:14,760
Speaker 2: your head at that point in time.

629
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was that wasnt Crankwork's Whistler, which was like

630
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 3: a red Bull joy Rad, which was one of the

631
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: bigger pretty much of the biggest slope style event, and

632
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 3: that was like obviously a dream event for me, and

633
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: I felt and that season I'd gotten gotten on the podium,

634
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: gone a second and a third, and I really felt like,

635
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 3: I feel like I could win if I put together

636
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 3: around that I was happy with and then I had

637
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: it all and yeah, so I had a little bit

638
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 3: more pressure on myself maybe than I should have. But yeah,

639
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,239
Speaker 3: like the morning of the finals, like I did all

640
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: the trucks I wanted to do, I flipped the hip,

641
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: which was a pretty gnarly one. That's what I ended

642
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 3: up krash on, but felt good like and then yeah,

643
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: my first finals run just went I think this slightly

644
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: too fast and like did the flip and landed a

645
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 3: little bit too deep, a little bit too over rotated.

646
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 3: It was just kind of like threw me down over

647
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 3: the bars, like my hand like punched the ground. So

648
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 3: when I got up, initially I was like, oh, yep,

649
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: my hand is definitely broken. So I was like but

650
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm here, like I worked this hard,

651
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: like I can probably hold on for another run potentially,

652
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: and then obviously after your run, everyone else goes and

653
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: then all the men go. So I think I had

654
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: like half an hour of me kind of bouncing on

655
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 3: my bike like seeing it. I could hold on like

656
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 3: it was it was massive, like it was very obviously broken.

657
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 3: The first day were like if you do the second run,

658
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 3: like you need to go straight to hospital afterwards because

659
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 3: you might be losing circulation. Like it was kind of

660
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 3: like a you need to tell us right away if

661
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 3: it starts like losing feeling. And but yeah, I was

662
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 3: like pretty like fifty fifty. I was like, can I

663
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 3: hold on? Is it worth it? But then like I

664
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: remember like the crank works people being like okay, like

665
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 3: if you're going to do this run, you have to

666
00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 3: go up now, like you're next, and it's just like

667
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: that flip that switch of like we're here, let's go.

668
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, as soon as I dropped in for that

669
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 3: second run, I remember I think I went for I

670
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 3: went for the first trick and like landed and just

671
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: like I was like, I cannot hold on. But I

672
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 3: also realized that I couldn't look up the ramps properly,

673
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 3: and that was kind of obviously my neck injury that

674
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 3: I hadn't even noticed then. But you're also like so

675
00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 3: in the moment, which is the worst place to be

676
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 3: when you're also having doubts and you're also in the

677
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 3: middle of a run. So it was that kind of like, Okay,

678
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 3: I'm not good, I should probably just chill. But then

679
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 3: you have that also like no, fucking let's go. So

680
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 3: I had both of those going on in my head

681
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 3: while you're trying to ride, and I was like, no,

682
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: I'll just pull for the flip. And then obviously, like

683
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: and I crashed again on that flip, mostly because I

684
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: couldn't even look up the ramp because of the positioning

685
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: of everything. And yeah, I crashed again and like had

686
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: a pretty bad fashion from that. I went to hospital

687
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: scanned the hand, they're wrist and everything, and that was

688
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: I thought that was it, and then it was until

689
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: a couple of days later I saw a busy and

690
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: he was like, might go get your next scanned, And

691
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 3: that was when we kind of found out that things

692
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 3: were a lot worse and how lucky.

693
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: I was and what was the process then from there

694
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 2: managing the neck injury.

695
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was quite quite a weird long one because initially, yeah,

696
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 3: we I saw a physio like two days after that event,

697
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: and I was like, I can't hold my head up,

698
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 3: Like I was like, I have a really bad whiplash

699
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 3: and he's like maybe, he's like, but I've also seen

700
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: people before that this has been with the same stuff

701
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: that you're describing, like a heavy head, like can't hold

702
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,279
Speaker 3: your head up or look around properly, and they've had

703
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: fractures in their necks. So I'd go get scanned. So

704
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: I did that actually, road to hospital and got scanned

705
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: in Canada and the me and they were like, yeah,

706
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: that's very broken, like that is you are insanely lucky.

707
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 2: Whoa.

708
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 3: But then they kind of were like, eh, just wait

709
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:14,839
Speaker 3: three months in the neck brace like a full hard

710
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 3: collar and it should heal. And that's when I went

711
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 3: back to Australia saw a doctor they said the same

712
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 3: thing And it wasn't until three months later I went

713
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 3: back to Red Bull in Germany to start my rehab

714
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: and they're like, Oh, let's just let's scan everything before

715
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 3: we do anything. And then that's when they were like, no,

716
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 3: that that's not healing. That's not gonna heal without surgery.

717
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:36,960
Speaker 3: Like the way that it broke. Yeah, it was just

718
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 3: like a whole kind of process of a little bit

719
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 3: frustrating a little bit of disappointment and of fear. And

720
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 3: that was kind of when it was I guess really

721
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 3: highlighted by the team there of how bad the break is,

722
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: how lucky I am, and that it hadn't really been

723
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 3: vocalized to me properly throughout the hospitals that I've been to,

724
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 3: which was scary because the mindset I was in and

725
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: that three months was, oh, it's a pretty chill for

726
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: actual like I was being a little loose. I was

727
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 3: occasionally taking off the neck brace to just like lie down,

728
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 3: and like in that time, it was extremely unstable and

729
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 3: like borderline like it was dislocated. Things like that, even

730
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: when they mentioned the surgery to me, because they were like,

731
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 3: you definitely can't come back to writing without getting the surgery,

732
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: But if you don't want to write again, if you

733
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 3: just want to live a normal life, you could probably

734
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: get away with not having it okay, but after the

735
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: surgeons they were like, we are so glad you got that.

736
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: It was so much worse when we got in there,

737
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,560
Speaker 3: like it was really bad. So but at the end

738
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 3: of the day, like when I chose to have the surgery,

739
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 3: I took out them writing ass pic but I was like,

740
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 3: I want to live a life where I can lift weights,

741
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 3: I can go to the gym, I can be active,

742
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 3: regardless of writing. I made that choice. B it was.

743
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,319
Speaker 3: It was definitely one of those one of those situations

744
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 3: where I was extremely lucky, both just in the initial

745
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 3: crash and the impact, but also the two days that

746
00:36:57,840 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 3: I spent after that without a neck brace, and then

747
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 3: that three months, like so many points in that time

748
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: could have been so much worse, Like it is genuinely

749
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 3: like pretty insane to think about.

750
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 2: What has it been like getting back on the bike

751
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: after that.

752
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: It was definitely it was interesting, for sure. So I

753
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,359
Speaker 3: like got cleared to ride again in May last year,

754
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 3: which was I had the crash in July, but then

755
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,919
Speaker 3: I had the surgery in November, so I believe, Yeah,

756
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 3: it was six months after the surgery and nine months

757
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 3: after the crash, and it was definitely I think throughout

758
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 3: the time off the bike that that's definitely the longest

759
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: I've ever spent off a bike and also just the

760
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 3: longest I've spent not being able to do anything Like

761
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 3: the initial three months after the surgery. It was nothing,

762
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: no lifting any weights of any kind, no running, no nothing, nothing.

763
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 3: And that's when I was like, Wow, this is the

764
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: first time in my life because I've always been active,

765
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: but I would never actually consider my self active for anything.

766
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 3: I was just like and that it affected me at all.

767
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,919
Speaker 3: But after that, I was like, wow, that makes such

768
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,360
Speaker 3: a difference to my mental health. Oh my god, like insane.

769
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 3: So coming back, I was like overwhelmed with you how

770
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 3: much better I felt in general? And then riding was

771
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 3: was good. And my biggest fear was that I would

772
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 3: have a mental block and that I wouldn't be able

773
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 3: to push and I'd be too concerned about my neck

774
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 3: and landing on it again or having another injury, and

775
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 3: that I wouldn't be able to kind of push past

776
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: that mental aspect of it, because I feel like you

777
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: can be as hopeful as you want off the bike,

778
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 3: but you won't know until you get into another moment

779
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: where you have to push yourself whether it's changed or not.

780
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: And I felt like that was the biggest relief when

781
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 3: I did start doing things again that the process to

782
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: build up to another flip to the air bag or

783
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,760
Speaker 3: a bigger jump took me a little bit longer, But

784
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 3: once I did it, it was like the switch like

785
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: flip back on and I was like, I've done this

786
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: a million times, Like my body did exactly the same thing.

787
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:06,280
Speaker 3: Everything was like and I got that confidence back like instantly,

788
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 3: which was like the biggest relief out of the whole process.

789
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: I think was like, oh, Okay, I can do this again.

790
00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 3: Both my body and my mind are there, So that

791
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 3: was like the biggest relief. But I also then definitely

792
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 3: spent the entire season last year trying to like play

793
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: catch up and both get back to the level that

794
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 3: I wanted while kind of competing at the same time.

795
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 3: And it was definitely a frustrating one. And to feel

796
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: like you, yeah, you had a year out of the

797
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 3: sport and you're kind of, yeah, fighting to get back

798
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 3: to that level while everyone else has also had a

799
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 3: year to push past that level a year out a

800
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: year ago. It was definitely it was definitely like stressful

801
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: and I probably was quite hard on myself trying to

802
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,600
Speaker 3: be at that level. Again, I still don't feel like

803
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: I'm quite there yet, but I think, yeah, there's a

804
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 3: lot of takeaways that were really positive obviously, but I

805
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 3: didn't know during the surgery process if I would come

806
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:05,280
Speaker 3: back to the sport, so that in itself was super positive.

807
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, How do you manage it now? You talked

808
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: about how much you have to do your mobility and

809
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 2: your phone rolling and it's impacted your vocal cords a

810
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 2: little bit as well. What's that experience been like?

811
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:22,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's definitely interesting. I've always been done

812
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 3: a lot of stretching and mobility, I think from that

813
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 3: BMX racing days, like it's pretty ingrained in me to

814
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 3: keep up with that stuff. But yeah, it feels more

815
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 3: like a full time job now for sure. In a

816
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 3: lot of ways, it's just thick. The neck is just

817
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 3: such an area that already holds tension when you're stressed.

818
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 3: So then it's like I ride, I get a little attention,

819
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 3: and I get stressed about being tense, and then it

820
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 3: gets intense. It just feels like there's insane amount of Yeah,

821
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 3: everything around there sometimes just feels like concrete like and

822
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 3: if I miss even one day of stretching or role, like,

823
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: it is just like so obvious to me, like I

824
00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 3: can feel it. And it's also like one of the

825
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 3: main things that we talked about with like the surgery

826
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 3: and the injury, it was like, you're losing some of

827
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 3: your spine movement with this, which means the rest of

828
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 3: your spine has to be as mobile and as loose

829
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: as possible for when you do take impacts, because that's

830
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 3: gonna be the part where it's fuse, that's that's not

831
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,120
Speaker 3: gonna break, that's stronger than ever those three, but the

832
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 3: rest of your spine is taking on more work now,

833
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 3: so you need to be as mobile as possible in

834
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 3: your spine, Like that needs to be like as like, yeah,

835
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: you need to work as hard as you can to

836
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: have the rest of your body working perfectly so that

837
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 3: that when you do have those impacts, because that's the reality.

838
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 3: It's not like I'm coming back in this spoil thing

839
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: like oh I just want to crash again. It's like

840
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: you're gonna crash, and you're gonna crash hard, and you

841
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 3: need to be ready for it. And that was like

842
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 3: obviously a choice and a decision that I had to

843
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 3: make through the injury of like if I come back

844
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,319
Speaker 3: to sport, that's coming back to crashing again. I will

845
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: crash again. So that was like, but once I made

846
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 3: that decision to understand that, yep, I'm okay with crashing it,

847
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 3: I think that was a big sort of step forward.

848
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: And yeah, at the moment, just everything I can to

849
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 3: keep things like as mobile as possible and obviously seeing

850
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: like with Red Bull, like I go to like the

851
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: Athlete Performance Center a lot to do a lot of

852
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 3: work with them, a lot of light therapy, acupuncture, all

853
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 3: of that kind of stuff. Beer, just every day, full

854
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 3: time job in the moment. And yeah, you definitely like

855
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 3: the whiplash and the head head bangs and things like that,

856
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 3: you feel that a lot more so it's more you

857
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 3: just say, it's like just a little bit more high maintenance,

858
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:45,319
Speaker 3: No kind of everybody is a little bit more high

859
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 3: maintenance than usual.

860
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: That's a two questions that I ask everyone on the podcast.

861
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: The first one is what is your favorite failure.

862
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 3: I guess maybe like as a hitter would have been

863
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 3: like you're not going to the Olympics or not choosing

864
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 3: that part way that in itself could be I guess

865
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 3: considered a failure of mind that I didn't stick with that,

866
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 3: but it led to something so much more fulfilling to me.

867
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 3: And I think choosing something for that reason rather than

868
00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: the like societal expectations of how big the Olympics are

869
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 3: and of that aspect, not people would kind of understand that,

870
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 3: but to me, like, I chose that path for the

871
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: right reasons, So I'm happy with that.

872
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: Maybe I love that. Second one is who has had

873
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 2: the biggest impact on you as a person.

874
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: Damn, I think probably it's hard to say. I don't

875
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: want to say my dad and not my mom. They

876
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 3: both got me into bikes. Yeah, they both rode a

877
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 3: lot of like mountain biking and xy but yeah, my

878
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 3: dad kind of was the one that took me to

879
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 3: some of my first you know, BMX races, and they

880
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 3: were always a part of the Mom and dad always

881
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 3: part of the community of mountain biking in Canberra and

882
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 3: all of that kind of stuff. And I think they

883
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: made it work very well for me, Like I have

884
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 3: two siblings, Like it's not easy to raise three kids,

885
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: and to be able to take me to events and

886
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 3: things like that. I think that makes and then to

887
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 3: not also not be parents that put any pressure on

888
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: me to perform at all at any point in my career.

889
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: It was never about the result at any point. It

890
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 3: was never about any of that. And there's a lot

891
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: of you know BMX parents that there are a lot

892
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 3: and that they see and I'm like, damn, I wouldn't

893
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 3: want to be that kid, because you can see how

894
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,080
Speaker 3: much pressure they're putting on them. And I was always

895
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 3: really proud that my dad that events was never like that.

896
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 3: He was just there having fine, watching chilling out. It's like,

897
00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 3: oh yeah, yeah, they're just here to hang out, and

898
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,359
Speaker 3: it was just never that. So that was really cool,

899
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 3: and that like rubbed off on me, I think in

900
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: a great way of like it was never about the year.

901
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: I was then about the results and that kind of thing.

902
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 3: So yeah, that was really cool.

903
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Tell us about this weekend and about what

904
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six looks like for you.

905
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. Yes, We've got head back to New

906
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: Zealand tonight. So I've been kind of training there at

907
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,680
Speaker 3: the moment, and we've got the first kind of crank

908
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 3: work slope style in christ Church this weekend and I

909
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: had to get a wild card to get in because

910
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,280
Speaker 3: I kind of lost all my points and that's also

911
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,560
Speaker 3: kind of one of my first opportunities to get back

912
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 3: into the tour since the injury. So that's a massive

913
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: one for me, and that'll kind of kick off, Yeah,

914
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,399
Speaker 3: what slope style looks like for me for the rest

915
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 3: of the year. And obviously the big bike and the

916
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,759
Speaker 3: free ride stuff is coming up as well, and I've

917
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 3: met pal rampages. Obviously another goal for me to come back,

918
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 3: and you know, i'd love to. I'd love to put

919
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: down the run that I really want and the tricks

920
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 3: that I know I'm capable of, and it's really exciting

921
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 3: and I feel like I learned a lot last year,

922
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 3: and I feel like last year was definitely a building

923
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 3: year and a very frustrating year to both be pushing

924
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,120
Speaker 3: to come back to events even when I wasn't ready

925
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 3: because because with the discipline that I do, there's really

926
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 3: no other way, Like you can't just stay home and

927
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 3: get to the level again because it's just the stuff

928
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: that you need to write is just massive stuff and

929
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 3: it's all around the world and you can't really do

930
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 3: that anywhere else. So I was both like getting back

931
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: into these events and knowing I wasn't one hundred percent

932
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: and knowing that I was underperforming, but that that was

933
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,439
Speaker 3: the only way. So I kind of I just want to, Yeah,

934
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,360
Speaker 3: I want to get back to that level where I'm

935
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 3: sort of able to put down my best and to

936
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 3: push forward and start getting back to like the tricks

937
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 3: that I want to be doing and pushing to do

938
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 3: new ones as well. So that's that's going to be

939
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 3: exciting this year for sure. And yeah, definitely lots to

940
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,320
Speaker 3: look forward to, pretty exciting, pretty busy, yeah.

941
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah has Thank you so much for your

942
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 2: time and for sharing your story. Your courage is incredible

943
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 2: and can't wait to keep watching you in twenty twenty six.

944
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 2: Thank you think for having me, Thanks so much for listening.

945
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:06,919
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946
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,080
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