WEBVTT - MINI: Magpies

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<v Speaker 1>Christ Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell's show podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Patsy, please tell me what about the walk you went

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<v Speaker 2>on yesterday in the Magpies.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Kate producer Caitlin and I she's motivated me.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, come on, we're going to go for a

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<v Speaker 3>walk once a week to start with. So we went

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<v Speaker 3>for a beautiful walk around the MCG yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh did you right before we go any further?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>So obviously katelan right is a gym bunny.

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<v Speaker 2>She came in yes, actually she did the show yes,

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<v Speaker 2>seeing Jim Ware and she was like jogging in and

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<v Speaker 2>out of the studio.

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<v Speaker 4>She was very active.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. And then so did you get changed into like

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<v Speaker 2>leisure where active work?

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<v Speaker 4>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>I just world what I wought it with.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, So you went, But then Rio said you came

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<v Speaker 4>back with shopping bags.

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<v Speaker 3>No that was no, that was Caitlin. That wasn't me.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh you're an innocent byside. I was a fitness walk

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<v Speaker 4>to go shopping.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that was Caitlin's business, not mine. I might have recommended.

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<v Speaker 2>Like like a healthy kind of walk in and out

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<v Speaker 2>of shops show were you in the shop?

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<v Speaker 5>See you were you in the shop?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, but after the walk, the walk had completed, we

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<v Speaker 3>had done an hour around the mc precinct. Gorgeous day,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, beautiful day yesterday, and then we thought,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, we'll grab a coffee on the way back,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know what.

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<v Speaker 4>Why don't we go grab some shopping shops.

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<v Speaker 3>And there just happened to be a store that took

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<v Speaker 3>Caitlin's eye on the way back.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, all right, so anyway, let's go back to the walk.

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<v Speaker 4>Then what happened?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, I was waiting for Caitlin out the front

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<v Speaker 3>of the building here and it's magpie season already, it's

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<v Speaker 3>not spring, and they pie swooped me. It was that,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's like, oh you look around.

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<v Speaker 4>They're huge.

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<v Speaker 3>It was massive. This seems like a terry dactyl and

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<v Speaker 3>it just was like a mirryl It was horrified.

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<v Speaker 4>They're huge.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one that's been sitting on my on the gate

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<v Speaker 2>post right. It hasn't attacked me, but it just stares

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<v Speaker 2>at me right, literally has the open the g It's

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<v Speaker 2>only about a couple of feet whey hasn't gone for me, but.

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<v Speaker 4>It keeps looking at me. They're deeply mysterious animals.

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<v Speaker 5>You guys are both in the superstition. Patty could probably

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<v Speaker 5>tell you what that means, because it isn't one magpie

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<v Speaker 5>bad news.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, is it.

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<v Speaker 5>I think one?

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<v Speaker 2>Ma.

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<v Speaker 4>I just hope it doesn't mean that the bosses are leaving.

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<v Speaker 4>They've wiped all. So this is right.

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<v Speaker 2>My mother in law, this is her first Magpie season.

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<v Speaker 2>She moved here in January. So she's terrified because she

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a can't She's just got this little mobility

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<v Speaker 2>scooter a right, and people were warning her hates you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in you here in Melbourne it's Magpie season, you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be an old timing like you. She's got a

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<v Speaker 2>big old booth on a gray hair. She is a

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<v Speaker 2>very slow moving target, right, So she's terrified.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So my wife said to me, look, can you do

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<v Speaker 4>some research into this?

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<v Speaker 2>I said, well, you do see those cyclists You've got

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<v Speaker 2>like those.

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<v Speaker 4>Spikes off them?

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<v Speaker 5>Eraser man?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes? Do they actually work?

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<v Speaker 3>Apparently they do? Yeah, I know, I don't know how

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<v Speaker 3>they detract them. We used to just wear like an

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<v Speaker 3>ice cream bucket on our heads.

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<v Speaker 2>Today Hey listen, mother and Laura, okay listen, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>what wear this ice cream bucket on your head.

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<v Speaker 5>And as a bonus, you get to eat the napolete

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<v Speaker 5>in ice cream.

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<v Speaker 4>I can't rock out like that. Does anyone know what

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<v Speaker 4>does actually work to deter these magpies?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Because she actually is really worried that she's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be swooped upon? Do they swoop on everyone? Someone told

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<v Speaker 2>me that they have a memory that can last up

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<v Speaker 2>to five years.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, so that if she goes in and round the

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<v Speaker 5>same tree, they'll go there. She is again on that mobility.

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<v Speaker 4>Ye old Jackie and slash scooter on me. Guys, there's kidder.

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<v Speaker 4>I need magpie advice or mother in law?

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<v Speaker 2>Please well Christian no Connell's show podcast Magpies. My mother

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<v Speaker 2>in law moved here in January, loved her new life

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<v Speaker 2>in Melbourne. Has a little mobility scooter. She's in her

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<v Speaker 2>late seventies. How's he got a car? She's terrified. She's

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<v Speaker 2>heard all about the Magpie season. All our elderly neighbors

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<v Speaker 2>are all warning her, you need to do something about this.

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<v Speaker 2>You're sitting target in a slow moving momidity scooter and

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<v Speaker 2>she is What can she do about the magpie? Says

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<v Speaker 2>one that's been sitting on my garden gate. Just staring

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<v Speaker 2>at me hasn't gone for me yet, Christine. Magpies are

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<v Speaker 2>very intelligent buds. They remember faces. If you befriend a magpie,

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<v Speaker 2>you have a friend for their entire life. They live

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<v Speaker 2>up to thirty years and spend their adult years in

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<v Speaker 2>just one area, becoming familiar with the faces that belong.

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<v Speaker 2>I was swooped from behind a few years ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>I spun around to look at the bird. I swear

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<v Speaker 2>he backed up with a horrified look on his face.

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<v Speaker 4>To say.

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<v Speaker 1>Horror.

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<v Speaker 2>He flew away, leaving me alone. Befriending me. You can

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<v Speaker 2>use bribes. They love grat geese.

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<v Speaker 4>You serious, I'm going to go out there today with

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit greater mind you. Why not?

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<v Speaker 2>I've got nothing else to lose, all right then, So

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<v Speaker 2>we're looking for your tips and someone about magpies.

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<v Speaker 4>Alan, Good morning, Christian and Jack.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I was listening and just listening on a call.

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<v Speaker 7>You just had that, although you text, you just had

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<v Speaker 7>that exactly exactly if you if you befriend the bird,

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<v Speaker 7>like if you feed it. If you've got birds around,

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<v Speaker 7>magpies around your house, you feed them and everything like that,

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<v Speaker 7>and they'll they'll recognize you and they will not swoop you.

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<v Speaker 6>Right.

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<v Speaker 7>And it is also it's only the male makepie that

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<v Speaker 7>will swoop. The male make pie has got all all white.

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<v Speaker 7>It's the brightest white you can see. It's the any

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<v Speaker 7>any any white with grey going through it. Bird is

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<v Speaker 7>the free mail bird.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, Adam, that was really illuminating. Thank you

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<v Speaker 2>for have a good day, No, thank you, I'm start again.

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Gorning, good morning.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that was tod.

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<v Speaker 2>We just had to David that roll the show with

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<v Speaker 2>that incredible intel. Scott, what can you tell us about magpiece?

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<v Speaker 1>I'll help you out there, please, I'll go with my

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<v Speaker 1>my to that the same couple and always clings to

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<v Speaker 1>me on the shield.

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<v Speaker 6>So I've come up with you whistle a.

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<v Speaker 1>Tune that'll distract the makepie, yes, and then it'll start looking.

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<v Speaker 6>For the other birds that will be up to attack it.

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<v Speaker 6>Because magpies are always attacked by other smaller birds, I know.

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<v Speaker 6>So when you when you whistle a tune as simple

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<v Speaker 6>as simple, was that loud enough?

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<v Speaker 7>They will look away.

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<v Speaker 1>They'll just go about their business. And I swam like

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<v Speaker 1>a mood. Put a million bucks on that one.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll tell you what Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to ask you in a minute to do

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<v Speaker 2>that whistle again, and I'm going to record it and

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<v Speaker 2>then get my mother Lad.

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<v Speaker 4>I'll put it on a loop for an hour for her.

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<v Speaker 2>She can just play it from speakers on her little

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<v Speaker 2>mobility scooter, can't she.

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<v Speaker 6>That's it million.

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<v Speaker 1>I've given away a million dollar advice because I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to paint it.

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<v Speaker 4>Man, all right, so can you just do that whistle?

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<v Speaker 4>Will be quite here. You do the whistle please, okay?

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<v Speaker 6>Anyway, Yeah, I can't get it right. Yeah, thank you

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<v Speaker 6>very much.

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<v Speaker 4>You gave us.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to play that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's you, Scott, and it will work.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Scott, Thank you very christ have

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<v Speaker 2>a good day, thanks mate.

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<v Speaker 4>I were actually trying that. Uh Matt, good morning, Matt

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<v Speaker 4>day guys.

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<v Speaker 6>My advice and Simms as the first before us. So

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<v Speaker 6>in twenty fifteen or sixteen, I injured myself and I

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<v Speaker 6>was at work for five months. So I started feeding

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<v Speaker 6>to make out the front of my house. So it

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<v Speaker 6>did a bit of a bird made of alcatrazh and

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<v Speaker 6>so you started coming in the house. I got really friendly.

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<v Speaker 6>Eventually they had a baby and it fell out of

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<v Speaker 6>a tree. And I was was my family. I was

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<v Speaker 6>able to go and I will Yeah, so I couldn't

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<v Speaker 6>get away from cats and things and the whistle. Actually

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<v Speaker 6>I went down to found the parents and whistle day.

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<v Speaker 6>I'll be back to my heart to find it where

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<v Speaker 6>the baby was.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, so just what I understand. It's a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit morefful.

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<v Speaker 6>To hear you. Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll sit down and take a breath of for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Before we come on the radio, always.

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<v Speaker 4>Say came into the house. He sort, okay, Well where

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<v Speaker 4>would he go in the house in the kitchen or yeah, if.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't fear them fast and after they started coming inside,

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<v Speaker 6>it still happened in now like last week. They came

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<v Speaker 6>in the house in the hallway, just waiting.

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<v Speaker 4>In the hallway. I'd be terrified.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, But the whistle things really good because then

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<v Speaker 6>the day you fell out of the train, my family

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<v Speaker 6>and I went down. I was with you. I just

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<v Speaker 6>didn't get sweep and I picked it up and we

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<v Speaker 6>kept up for a few days. Names but Frank and

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<v Speaker 6>then Frank started coming to get hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>That documentary Netflix about my octopus. Frank Frank the magpie

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<v Speaker 2>great name for remagpie as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Frank, I caught it, Frank the tank. We didn't know

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<v Speaker 6>what the deal or for.

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<v Speaker 4>We get too close.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh, what's the biggest thing baby in lockdowns? I turned

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<v Speaker 6>in and turned around there and I go out one

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<v Speaker 6>down There was twenty one magi. Yeah, twenty.

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<v Speaker 4>Some the Oh my god, get those kids. Twenty one kids.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, we started out to a lot of shoes. Not

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<v Speaker 6>hard to lock the shows the scarce Matt.

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<v Speaker 5>One day you're going to walk into your house and

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<v Speaker 5>they're all going to be.

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<v Speaker 6>In your horse. You can.

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<v Speaker 4>They're overrunning you. They're building an army. They're using you.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, well they're they're family man. They like the mask you.

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<v Speaker 6>If you're on you're on your side. You're fine.

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<v Speaker 4>Maia, that's great, Matt, thank you very much. You come

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<v Speaker 4>have a good week.

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<v Speaker 6>No, you are.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>People who've seen what magpies can do, they're nervous. It's

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<v Speaker 2>an emotional thing to talk about what magpies can do.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack's actually found there's a map that shows real time

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<v Speaker 2>magpies incidents.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. On the Wildlife dot VIC dot gov dot AU website,

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<v Speaker 5>you can see a live map of Melbourne and people

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<v Speaker 5>can submit where magpies are swooping them. Here's some tips

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<v Speaker 5>that we didn't hear on the phones actually that you

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<v Speaker 5>can use with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, any tips, I'm none the wiser after twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of radio.

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<v Speaker 4>How is that possible?

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<v Speaker 5>Her eyes on the back of your head. Birds may

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<v Speaker 5>be less likely to swoop if they think you're watching them.

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<v Speaker 5>Draw a pair of eyes and attach them to the

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<v Speaker 5>back of hats so other.

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<v Speaker 2>One looks so fine, I'm going to go around my

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<v Speaker 2>mother and all today is terrified of being attacked my

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<v Speaker 2>magpies on a slow movement with discopter ice cream cart

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<v Speaker 2>and on your head and then fake eyes on the

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<v Speaker 2>back of her.

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<v Speaker 4>She didn't think I'm spranking her.

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<v Speaker 5>The other one is traveling groups. So if every time

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<v Speaker 5>she wants to go out on the mobility.

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<v Speaker 4>Steen has got with his church friends.

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<v Speaker 2>She's befriended a load of church people, so they keep

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<v Speaker 2>They love to they love to hang out together.

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<v Speaker 5>I have to go in gas.

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<v Speaker 2>Flying ves the bikeys the nanchesere, not the command cheese,

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<v Speaker 2>the nan cheese.

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<v Speaker 5>And it says, whatever tell Jackie this, whatever you do,

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<v Speaker 5>do not destroy their nests. This may prop them for

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<v Speaker 5>she st want.

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<v Speaker 4>To go around with a spanner breaking up.

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<v Speaker 5>This will be prolong their swooping behavior.

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<v Speaker 2>Rios is found online and animals that hold grudges. Magpies

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<v Speaker 2>have been found to hold a specific grudge on people

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<v Speaker 2>for for five years. It's the worst. It's the use

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<v Speaker 2>of the word specific that's amazing about that. There's even

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<v Speaker 2>some evidence that they would hold grudges against their enemies families.

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<v Speaker 4>Your enemy is my enemy.

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<v Speaker 2>Lions have been known to develop a deep mistrust of

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<v Speaker 2>lazy members of their own pride cows. One study found

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<v Speaker 2>can maintain a beef. Can maintain a beef for years

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<v Speaker 2>with heifers who wrong them.

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<v Speaker 5>And third day of Colfax, Yeah, can we make its

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<v Speaker 5>a Friday.

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