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Speaker 1: Christ Yeah, welcome friends to the Christian O'Connell's show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Patsy, please tell me what about the walk you went

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Speaker 2: on yesterday in the Magpies.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Kate producer Caitlin and I she's motivated me.

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Speaker 3: She said, come on, we're going to go for a

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Speaker 3: walk once a week to start with. So we went

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Speaker 3: for a beautiful walk around the MCG yesterday.

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Speaker 4: Oh did you right before we go any further?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 4: So obviously katelan right is a gym bunny.

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Speaker 2: She came in yes, actually she did the show yes,

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Speaker 2: seeing Jim Ware and she was like jogging in and

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Speaker 4: She was very active.

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Speaker 2: Yes. And then so did you get changed into like

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Speaker 2: leisure where active work?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 3: I just world what I wought it with.

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Speaker 4: Right, So you went, But then Rio said you came

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Speaker 4: back with shopping bags.

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Speaker 3: No that was no, that was Caitlin. That wasn't me.

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Speaker 4: Oh you're an innocent byside. I was a fitness walk

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Speaker 4: to go shopping.

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Speaker 3: No, that was Caitlin's business, not mine. I might have recommended.

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Speaker 2: Like like a healthy kind of walk in and out

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Speaker 2: of shops show were you in the shop?

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Speaker 5: See you were you in the shop?

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Speaker 3: Yes, but after the walk, the walk had completed, we

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Speaker 3: had done an hour around the mc precinct. Gorgeous day,

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Speaker 3: by the way, beautiful day yesterday, and then we thought,

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Speaker 3: you know what, we'll grab a coffee on the way back,

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Speaker 3: and you know what.

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Speaker 4: Why don't we go grab some shopping shops.

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Speaker 3: And there just happened to be a store that took

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Speaker 3: Caitlin's eye on the way back.

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Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so anyway, let's go back to the walk.

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Speaker 4: Then what happened?

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Speaker 3: Oh well, I was waiting for Caitlin out the front

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Speaker 3: of the building here and it's magpie season already, it's

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Speaker 3: not spring, and they pie swooped me. It was that,

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Speaker 3: you know, it's like, oh you look around.

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Speaker 4: They're huge.

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Speaker 3: It was massive. This seems like a terry dactyl and

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Speaker 3: it just was like a mirryl It was horrified.

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Speaker 4: They're huge.

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Speaker 2: There's one that's been sitting on my on the gate

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Speaker 2: post right. It hasn't attacked me, but it just stares

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Speaker 2: at me right, literally has the open the g It's

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Speaker 2: only about a couple of feet whey hasn't gone for me, but.

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Speaker 4: It keeps looking at me. They're deeply mysterious animals.

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Speaker 5: You guys are both in the superstition. Patty could probably

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Speaker 5: tell you what that means, because it isn't one magpie

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Speaker 5: bad news.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, is it.

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Speaker 5: I think one?

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Speaker 2: Ma.

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Speaker 4: I just hope it doesn't mean that the bosses are leaving.

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Speaker 4: They've wiped all. So this is right.

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Speaker 2: My mother in law, this is her first Magpie season.

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Speaker 2: She moved here in January. So she's terrified because she

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Speaker 2: scooter a right, and people were warning her hates you know,

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Speaker 2: in you here in Melbourne it's Magpie season, you're going

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Speaker 2: to be an old timing like you. She's got a

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Speaker 2: big old booth on a gray hair. She is a

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Speaker 2: very slow moving target, right, So she's terrified.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 4: So my wife said to me, look, can you do

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Speaker 2: I said, well, you do see those cyclists You've got

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Speaker 4: Spikes off them?

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Speaker 5: Eraser man?

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Speaker 4: Yes? Do they actually work?

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Speaker 3: Apparently they do? Yeah, I know, I don't know how

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Speaker 3: they detract them. We used to just wear like an

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Speaker 3: ice cream bucket on our heads.

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Speaker 2: Today Hey listen, mother and Laura, okay listen, and that's

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Speaker 2: what wear this ice cream bucket on your head.

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Speaker 5: And as a bonus, you get to eat the napolete

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Speaker 4: I can't rock out like that. Does anyone know what

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Speaker 4: does actually work to deter these magpies?

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Speaker 6: Right?

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Speaker 2: Because she actually is really worried that she's going to

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Speaker 2: be swooped upon? Do they swoop on everyone? Someone told

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Speaker 5: Yes, so that if she goes in and round the

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Speaker 5: same tree, they'll go there. She is again on that mobility.

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Speaker 4: Ye old Jackie and slash scooter on me. Guys, there's kidder.

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Speaker 4: I need magpie advice or mother in law?

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Speaker 2: Please well Christian no Connell's show podcast Magpies. My mother

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Speaker 2: in law moved here in January, loved her new life

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Speaker 2: in Melbourne. Has a little mobility scooter. She's in her

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Speaker 2: late seventies. How's he got a car? She's terrified. She's

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Speaker 2: heard all about the Magpie season. All our elderly neighbors

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Speaker 2: are all warning her, you need to do something about this.

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Speaker 2: You're sitting target in a slow moving momidity scooter and

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Speaker 2: she is What can she do about the magpie? Says

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Speaker 2: one that's been sitting on my garden gate. Just staring

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Speaker 2: at me hasn't gone for me yet, Christine. Magpies are

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Speaker 2: very intelligent buds. They remember faces. If you befriend a magpie,

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Speaker 2: you have a friend for their entire life. They live

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Speaker 2: up to thirty years and spend their adult years in

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Speaker 2: just one area, becoming familiar with the faces that belong.

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Speaker 2: I was swooped from behind a few years ago, and

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Speaker 2: I spun around to look at the bird. I swear

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Speaker 2: he backed up with a horrified look on his face.

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Speaker 1: Horror.

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Speaker 2: He flew away, leaving me alone. Befriending me. You can

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Speaker 2: use bribes. They love grat geese.

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Speaker 4: You serious, I'm going to go out there today with

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Speaker 4: a little bit greater mind you. Why not?

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Speaker 2: I've got nothing else to lose, all right then, So

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Speaker 2: we're looking for your tips and someone about magpies.

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Speaker 4: Alan, Good morning, Christian and Jack.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was listening and just listening on a call.

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Speaker 7: You just had that, although you text, you just had

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Speaker 7: that exactly exactly if you if you befriend the bird,

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Speaker 7: like if you feed it. If you've got birds around,

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Speaker 7: magpies around your house, you feed them and everything like that,

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Speaker 7: and they'll they'll recognize you and they will not swoop you.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 7: And it is also it's only the male makepie that

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Speaker 7: will swoop. The male make pie has got all all white.

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Speaker 7: It's the brightest white you can see. It's the any

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Speaker 7: any any white with grey going through it. Bird is

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Speaker 7: the free mail bird.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Adam, that was really illuminating. Thank you

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Speaker 2: for have a good day, No, thank you, I'm start again.

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Speaker 2: Scott Gorning, good morning.

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Speaker 4: I think that was tod.

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Speaker 2: We just had to David that roll the show with

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Speaker 2: that incredible intel. Scott, what can you tell us about magpiece?

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Speaker 1: I'll help you out there, please, I'll go with my

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Speaker 6: So I've come up with you whistle a.

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Speaker 1: Tune that'll distract the makepie, yes, and then it'll start looking.

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Speaker 6: For the other birds that will be up to attack it.

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Speaker 6: Because magpies are always attacked by other smaller birds, I know.

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Speaker 6: So when you when you whistle a tune as simple

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Speaker 7: They will look away.

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Speaker 1: They'll just go about their business. And I swam like

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Speaker 1: a mood. Put a million bucks on that one.

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you what Scott.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to ask you in a minute to do

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Speaker 2: that whistle again, and I'm going to record it and

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Speaker 2: then get my mother Lad.

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Speaker 4: I'll put it on a loop for an hour for her.

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Speaker 2: She can just play it from speakers on her little

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Speaker 6: That's it million.

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Speaker 1: I've given away a million dollar advice because I'm going

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Speaker 4: Man, all right, so can you just do that whistle?

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Speaker 4: Will be quite here. You do the whistle please, okay?

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Speaker 6: Anyway, Yeah, I can't get it right. Yeah, thank you

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Speaker 4: You gave us.

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Speaker 1: We're going to play that.

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Speaker 4: That's you, Scott, and it will work.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Scott, Thank you very christ have

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Speaker 2: a good day, thanks mate.

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Speaker 4: I were actually trying that. Uh Matt, good morning, Matt

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Speaker 6: My advice and Simms as the first before us. So

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Speaker 4: All right, so just what I understand. It's a little

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Speaker 6: To hear you. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll sit down and take a breath of for sure.

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Speaker 4: Say came into the house. He sort, okay, Well where

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Speaker 6: I didn't fear them fast and after they started coming inside,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, But the whistle things really good because then

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Speaker 6: and I went down. I was with you. I just

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Speaker 2: That documentary Netflix about my octopus. Frank Frank the magpie

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Speaker 6: Frank, I caught it, Frank the tank. We didn't know

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Speaker 6: what the deal or for.

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Speaker 4: We get too close.

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Speaker 6: Uh, what's the biggest thing baby in lockdowns? I turned

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Speaker 6: in and turned around there and I go out one

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Speaker 6: down There was twenty one magi. Yeah, twenty.

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Speaker 4: Some the Oh my god, get those kids. Twenty one kids.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we started out to a lot of shoes. Not

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Speaker 6: hard to lock the shows the scarce Matt.

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Speaker 5: One day you're going to walk into your house and

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Speaker 5: they're all going to be.

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Speaker 6: In your horse. You can.

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Speaker 4: They're overrunning you. They're building an army. They're using you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well they're they're family man. They like the mask you.

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Speaker 6: If you're on you're on your side. You're fine.

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Speaker 4: Maia, that's great, Matt, thank you very much. You come

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Speaker 4: have a good week.

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Speaker 6: No, you are.

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Speaker 2: This is the Christian O'Connell show podcast.

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Speaker 4: Let's disagree.

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Speaker 2: People who've seen what magpies can do, they're nervous. It's

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Speaker 2: an emotional thing to talk about what magpies can do.

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Speaker 2: Jack's actually found there's a map that shows real time

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Speaker 2: magpies incidents.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. On the Wildlife dot VIC dot gov dot AU website,

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Speaker 5: you can see a live map of Melbourne and people

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Speaker 5: can submit where magpies are swooping them. Here's some tips

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Speaker 5: that we didn't hear on the phones actually that you

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Speaker 5: can use with the.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, any tips, I'm none the wiser after twenty minutes

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Speaker 4: How is that possible?

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Speaker 5: Her eyes on the back of your head. Birds may

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Speaker 5: be less likely to swoop if they think you're watching them.

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Speaker 5: Draw a pair of eyes and attach them to the

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Speaker 5: back of hats so other.

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Speaker 2: One looks so fine, I'm going to go around my

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Speaker 2: mother and all today is terrified of being attacked my

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Speaker 2: magpies on a slow movement with discopter ice cream cart

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Speaker 2: and on your head and then fake eyes on the

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Speaker 2: back of her.

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Speaker 4: She didn't think I'm spranking her.

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Speaker 5: The other one is traveling groups. So if every time

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Speaker 5: she wants to go out on the mobility.

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Speaker 4: Steen has got with his church friends.

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Speaker 2: She's befriended a load of church people, so they keep

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Speaker 2: They love to they love to hang out together.

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Speaker 5: I have to go in gas.

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Speaker 2: Flying ves the bikeys the nanchesere, not the command cheese,

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Speaker 2: the nan cheese.

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Speaker 5: And it says, whatever tell Jackie this, whatever you do,

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Speaker 5: do not destroy their nests. This may prop them for

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Speaker 5: she st want.

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Speaker 4: To go around with a spanner breaking up.

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Speaker 5: This will be prolong their swooping behavior.

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Speaker 2: Rios is found online and animals that hold grudges. Magpies

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Speaker 2: have been found to hold a specific grudge on people

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Speaker 2: for for five years. It's the worst. It's the use

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Speaker 2: of the word specific that's amazing about that. There's even

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Speaker 2: some evidence that they would hold grudges against their enemies families.

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Speaker 4: Your enemy is my enemy.

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Speaker 2: Lions have been known to develop a deep mistrust of

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Speaker 2: lazy members of their own pride cows. One study found

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Speaker 2: can maintain a beef. Can maintain a beef for years

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Speaker 2: with heifers who wrong them.

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Speaker 5: And third day of Colfax, Yeah, can we make its

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Speaker 5: a Friday.

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