1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Ada Nicodemu Ha's just wrapped filming for the day on 2 00:00:04,280 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 1: Home and Away, and she is feeling anything but relaxed 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: as she gets in the car to drive home after 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: crying her eyes out in front of her colleagues over 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: and over again. Her nerves are fried and her emotions 6 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:23,200 Speaker 1: are all over the place. But that's the day to 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,319 Speaker 1: day business of being an actor. But Ada's learned that 8 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: it doesn't measure well with her home life. 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 2: Whether she needs to. 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: Refocus in order to get everyone fed and out the 11 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: door for soccer practice, or she's just having a quiet 12 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: night on the couch with her family. Whatever state she 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: was in when the camera was rolling isn't going to 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:50,200 Speaker 1: work at home. So what strategy does Ada use to 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: switch off from her emotionally intense workdays. My name is 16 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: Doctor and the Invert. I'm an organizational psychologist and the 17 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: founder of behavioral science consultancy Inventium, and this is how 18 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: I work, a show about how to help you do 19 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: your best work. On today is my Favorite Tip episode, 20 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 1: we go back to an interview from the past and 21 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 1: I pick out my favorite tip from the interview. In 22 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: today's show, I speak with Ada Nicodemu and she starts 23 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: by sharing how she transitions into her work day. So 24 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 1: I find that my drive to work prepares me for 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: the day. 26 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:40,199 Speaker 3: And because I'm just by myself, and then I find 27 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: the drive coming home helps me unwind, so because I 28 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 3: feel like, you know, because you're talking all day and on, like, 29 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 3: I just think that drive home really helps me. But 30 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 3: then when I come home, you know, say hi to 31 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: the family, I have to go wash my face, wash 32 00:02:00,960 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 3: the lashes, draw it, pull my hair back like it 33 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 3: is now, and then I'm ready because I do I 34 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 3: feel like I do need to wash that, or I'll 35 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 3: have a shower just so I can just wash the 36 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 3: day off before I'll start dinner or whatever it is 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 3: that I need to do, because especially if you're on 38 00:02:17,680 --> 00:02:20,639 Speaker 3: set all day, there's a lot of powder that goes 39 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: on your face, and I feel like it just gets. 40 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: Really heavy by the end of the day. So I just, yeah, 41 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 2: I just need to sort of wash it all off. 42 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: On your drive home. Is there anything else that you're 43 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: doing to transition out of work mode. 44 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, sometimes I'm thinking about the day and breaking 45 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 3: it all down and getting rid of it, you know, 46 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 3: because I don't like to bring that energy. 47 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: Home because sometimes you know, I mean, you might be 48 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: doing a. 49 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 3: Day where there's a lot of emotional scenes, and as 50 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,080 Speaker 3: much as you don't want to take that on, of 51 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: course you have to take that on because you have 52 00:02:57,840 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: to get to a point and be able to cry 53 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: or whatever it is. So yeah, I'll think about the 54 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 3: day and unwind and shake it off and you know, 55 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 3: maybe play a bit of music or maybe listen to 56 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: a podcast where I can laugh, or whatever it is. 57 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: But I don't like to bring my scenes into my 58 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 3: home life. 59 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'll do that and what I have found 60 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 2: as well. 61 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 3: But because we all like, if I've got say twelve 62 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 3: fifteen scenes in a day, you're not always going to 63 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: feel like you've done a good job with all of them. 64 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 3: But if I did one and it was terrible, go 65 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 3: I let it affect my other scenes where I find now, 66 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: I don't let it do that. I go, right, Okay, 67 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: that was one bad scene. I didn't you know, I 68 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 3: felt like I didn't sort of achieve what I wanted 69 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: to achieve. 70 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 2: But I've got to let it go. 71 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 3: Hopefully someone just got up, made a cup of tea 72 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,119 Speaker 3: at that point, didn't even see the scene because they're 73 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 3: so quick. 74 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,559 Speaker 2: So you know, I just don't let it affect. 75 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 3: My whole day because we can't be perfect all the 76 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: time and we are never perfect. 77 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, I do just have to shake it off. 78 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: How did you learn to do that? 79 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: I think just. 80 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 3: Survival, you know, because I was finding that I was 81 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: letting it really get me down because I am a perfectionist. 82 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 3: I think I am type a personality, so everything has 83 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,159 Speaker 3: to be perfect, you know, like literally at home, like 84 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: my pillows have to be a certain way. 85 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: All that sort of stuff. 86 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: But I was just finding that it was making me 87 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: really unhappy and very unproductive. 88 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: In my whole day. I was letting, you know, a 89 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 2: conversation that. 90 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 3: I'd have with someone, or you know, a line read 91 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 3: that wasn't great or whatever it was. I was just 92 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: letting it affect my whole day and then a lot 93 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 3: of times affect my mood when I was coming home, 94 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 3: And yeah, I feel like that's just you can't do that, 95 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 3: and especially when you've got a child, Like I don't 96 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 3: want my child to you know, I want to be 97 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 3: really present when I'm with him because I do work 98 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 3: a lot, so it's very important for me to be 99 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 3: present for Jonas. So Yeah, I've had to learn just 100 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 3: to shake things off and also not like everything around 101 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: the house doesn't need. 102 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 2: To be as perfect. It's never going to be perfect, 103 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 2: you know. 104 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 3: There's always something to do, There's always another load of 105 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 3: washing to do, like all of that stuff, right, So 106 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: I have to constantly work on that though, I do 107 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,599 Speaker 3: have to work on just letting things go. 108 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: What strategies have you found have been effective for doing that? 109 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: Which is easier said than done, let's face it. 110 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I've accepted this is who I am, and 111 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 3: I just had to talk myself. I when I find 112 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: myself getting really busy at home and cleaning for like 113 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 3: just constantly cleaning, Like. 114 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: Okay, what's that about? What am I avoiding? 115 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:53,160 Speaker 1: Like? 116 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 3: Is there something I need to be writing down and 117 00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 3: thinking about? Do I need to go for a walk 118 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: and just shake it off again? Like there's a reason 119 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 3: why I think you need everything to be perfect all 120 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 3: the time. I'm trying to control something. So I'm just 121 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: trying to be more self aware and also just letting 122 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:16,359 Speaker 3: things go. And you know, the minute you have a child, 123 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 3: you do learn you have to let med things go 124 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 3: because you can't control them, you know, you know, I 125 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:24,720 Speaker 3: spent the morning with my little goddaughter this morning, who's 126 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 3: eighteen months. You're on her clock like it's whatever she 127 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 3: wants to do, so I think children really make you present. 128 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 3: If you enjoy this exit from my chat with Ada, 129 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 3: you might want to go to the show notes, where 130 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,160 Speaker 3: you can click on a. 131 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: Link to listen to the full episode. 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