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Speaker 2: Laura, I know that you sometimes use chat GPT. What
Speaker 2: were the last things that you looked up?
Speaker 3: Oh, God, don't put me in the spot.
Speaker 2: Well, I say this because I'm definitely new to it.
Speaker 3: I don't use chat GPT.
Speaker 1: Well, and when I say that, there are some people
Speaker 1: who use chat GPT as like their entire personality. They
Speaker 1: write business plans on it, they have workout meal plans,
Speaker 1: they do their tax through chat.
Speaker 3: Like I use it for questions, I could probably just
Speaker 3: use the normal Internet.
Speaker 2: I think that I didn't really understand how like thorough
Speaker 2: it was because I've sort of not got the hype.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things I listen to people talking about.
Speaker 2: But I sporadically would put some questions in. But I
Speaker 2: didn't realize that in just seconds it could do like
Speaker 2: all of your work.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm definitely not using it. Well.
Speaker 1: My last search was chemtrails myths debunked?
Speaker 3: Are they real? I don't know why.
Speaker 1: What was the answer, kem trails There was absolutely no
Speaker 1: scientific evidence that they exist. We are not being poisoned
Speaker 1: by the government. Everyone in case you thought we were somebody.
Speaker 1: I should have looked this up.
Speaker 2: Someone recently commented on one of my photos on Instagram,
Speaker 2: I went trails. Yeah, I was in Italy and it
Speaker 2: had been like sporadically raining and there was a cloud
Speaker 2: in the photo and someone wrote, it's raining from the chemtrails.
Speaker 2: I could see them in the back of your photo
Speaker 2: and I was like, what, Well.
Speaker 3: Now you don't have to Google. I have chat GPT.
Speaker 1: That also, I was looking up things like normal weight
Speaker 1: gained for twenty one weeks pregnant.
Speaker 3: So look, I mean, how big is my baby?
Speaker 1: I certainly don't need to be using chat GPT.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm killing the environment, as it would see.
Speaker 2: I did spend last night on chat GPT looking up
Speaker 2: new business names, not for us, Laura, but just for myself.
Speaker 3: Anyway. I had some good examples.
Speaker 2: But what I wanted to say is I saw this
Speaker 2: new study from these researchers at MIT's Media Lab. They
Speaker 2: have said that they think that chat GPT is reducing
Speaker 2: our critical thinking skills. Now that doesn't sound like shock horror,
Speaker 2: but it was really interesting. So they used like an
Speaker 2: EEG which records brain activity. Yeah, and they split people
Speaker 2: up into three groups which were using nothing at all,
Speaker 2: using Google's search engine, and using chat GPT to write essays,
Speaker 2: so like three groups you could just use your brain,
Speaker 2: Google or chat GPT. Then they studied their brain activity
Speaker 2: and they made them do some tests off the back
Speaker 2: of it, and basically, people that use chat GPT over
Speaker 2: the coming months had consistently underperformed at neural, linguistic, and
Speaker 2: behavioral levels. They had the lowest brain engagement, so they're
Speaker 2: literally watching their brain and just nothing's happening. And on
Speaker 2: top of that, they then asked them to repeat and
Speaker 2: try and remember what they had written in the essay,
Speaker 2: So like even though they've used different search engines, they
Speaker 2: still had to write the essay. Everyone that used chat
Speaker 2: GPT had the lowest memory level, Like they couldn't even
Speaker 2: remember what they were writing.
Speaker 1: I mean, I know that there's been a research studied
Speaker 1: on this, but I feel like that that's pretty evident
Speaker 1: because if you're going to write it from scratch, you've
Speaker 1: got to have done the research.
Speaker 3: You've got to interpret it, you've got to spit.
Speaker 1: It out, like you have to actually be able to
Speaker 1: comprehend what it is that you have read. Whereas like
Speaker 1: the reason why people are getting into so much trouble
Speaker 1: for using chat GPT in their workplace and everywhere else
Speaker 1: is because you're basically just outsourcing your own thinking or
Speaker 1: critical thinking or work use and just removing the long
Speaker 1: dash that everyone knows and now we all know now
Speaker 1: that that's like the indicator of chat GPT.
Speaker 2: Well, there used to be a bit of an argument
Speaker 2: I shouldn't they used to be there still is. There
Speaker 2: was an argument that people were saying, well, it doesn't
Speaker 2: necessarily make you dumber. It just gives you freeze up
Speaker 2: more time to do other things, which in a way
Speaker 2: it does. But if it's only free and you are
Speaker 2: up more time to do other things and in the
Speaker 2: other time you're still using chat chept to do the
Speaker 2: other things, well.
Speaker 3: Then we are getting dumber.
Speaker 2: So they're actually they're genuinely now worried about our next generation.
Speaker 1: I think personally, and I know, like we joke about
Speaker 1: what I've been searching and stuff. I think I was
Speaker 1: quite a late adopter to it, and I don't use
Speaker 1: it in the way that people who are very good
Speaker 1: and like critical at creating. I think because you can
Speaker 1: give it like different personas and whatnot set up libraries
Speaker 1: and all that sort of stuff. We all know that
Speaker 1: person in either our friendship group or maybe you've met
Speaker 1: him at a party and I'm saying him because it's
Speaker 1: often a but sometimes you know it shouldn't gender it.
Speaker 3: But there are.
Speaker 1: People we're talking about because I have met them over
Speaker 1: and over again. There are people whose chat GPT is
Speaker 1: now their entire personality.
Speaker 3: They do everything.
Speaker 1: Every email they write has spat out through chat GPT,
Speaker 1: every single meal plan they use chat GPT as their therapist.
Speaker 1: Like it does make me wonder, not only in terms
Speaker 1: of like essays and schoolwork and everything else, but are
Speaker 1: some people leaning on it too heavily that they're outsourcing
Speaker 1: so much of their personality to what is essentially just
Speaker 1: a computer.
Speaker 2: One hundred percent?
Speaker 3: But what's the next generation going to be? Can we
Speaker 3: not string a sentence together? Can we not write?
Speaker 1: But we're really good at writing, just they won't be
Speaker 1: able to do it without being prompted