1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Job mission with Jonesy and Amanda. 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 2: Tell you what if a decade of magazine journalism, authoring 3 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:08,520 Speaker 2: eight grown up books, being a mum of two doesn't 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: qualify to be a brilliant children's author. We don't know 5 00:00:11,360 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 2: what will. Zoe Foster Blake has a fabulous new picture 6 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 2: book for kids called Back to Sleep. She's here to 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: talk about it. Hello Zoey, Good morning. 8 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 3: Go Hello Joey. And this is after your first picture book, 9 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 3: No One Likes a Fart? 10 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I thought I had to take it up 11 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: and notes this time I think about the two in 12 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: the fart. Here we'll tell you what. 13 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,199 Speaker 2: No One Likes a Fart was the fastest selling Australian 14 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 2: picture book on record. Everyone loves a fart? 15 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: Everyone does? What of fus? It's true? Actually yeah, I 16 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: shouldn't be so hard on the little guy. But I'm 17 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: taking it back into the real world now with probably 18 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: situation that any all parent has been through, which is 19 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: the constant midnight to five am workings from the children. 20 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 3: And I like the trope of this particular book because 21 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 3: now it's the kid that wants to get to sleep 22 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: and the parents are waking up the key. 23 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 2: I want to drink, I need a. 24 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 3: Badge, is there's something scratchy in my bed? 25 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. It's my revenge fantasy. And it really 26 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: responds from that because it's been And I say this 27 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: after getting about three hours sleep because my daughter in 28 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: beautiful irony, kept me up all night last night for 29 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: us all day because she's three and she wants to 30 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: come in and tell me that she's had a bad dream, 31 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: or she just needs to snuggle her and nappies too wet, 32 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 1: or you know, very important things. But yeah, we would 33 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: often say to them, well, what if we came in 34 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,800 Speaker 1: and woke you up just because we're feeling a little 35 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,800 Speaker 1: bit thirsty, And so it began. But I you know, 36 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: and there's a little bit of hard in it as well, 37 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: because sometimes when they come in, you know, youve got 38 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: a little hot body snuggling into you. We go, oh, 39 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: how could I possibly not want this to happen? But 40 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: you also cherish sleep and you need it to function 41 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: as a human being. 42 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: I remember when my kids were younger, I thought, imagine 43 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 2: walking into a party and going, can I have a drink? 44 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: Can I have a drink? Can I have a drink? 45 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: Where's a toilet. I'm hungry. I'm hungry. Imagine if adults 46 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: behave like children are, be outrageous. 47 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: I think you're paying flatmates and this is the way 48 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 1: they treated You're just screaming at you for food, throwing 49 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: it on the floor, waking up. 50 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 2: So as you say, there is a certain poignancy to it, 51 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 2: and there's a little one of the pages was where 52 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,839 Speaker 2: the little kid is saying, oh, look, I'd better look 53 00:02:15,880 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 2: after them because there'll be a time when they don't 54 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 2: need me. And that's so true. My son used to 55 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: say all the time, can I have a backstrap scratch? 56 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: And I think I've done that enough. I'm tired now, 57 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 2: and now what I give to have half an hour 58 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 2: of just scratching his back? 59 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Yes, that's it. And so he says, you know she 60 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: won't be forty forever, and I'm like, you know, she 61 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: won't be three forever, or he won't be six forever. 62 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: And I was so aware, my Haynes and I that 63 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: these kids are just going up before our eyes and 64 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 1: they won't want the wall. They call it a scratch 65 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 1: back in her house, which is even cutter, but they 66 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: won't want it forever. 67 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: I can understand of my own back here for this 68 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: scratch back business. If you're feeling, if you're feeling that 69 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 3: you're missing out, I've got plenty of back here. 70 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: I've loved someone to do mine too, you know, I 71 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: pay someone for half an hour to scratch my. 72 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: Back exactly exactly. But no, it's a beautiful little story, 73 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 1: and it's a I like to write books that I 74 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: hope the parents enjoy as much as a kick of 75 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: how much does it suck when your kids your book 76 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 1: that you hate and you're gonna read it night after night, 77 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: so the parents will read it with a right smile. 78 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 3: I just like the ones that didn't have too many 79 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 3: words in them. But she struggled, Well, it was one 80 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: of my one of my my eldest son, he used 81 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 3: to like Toodle the Train, and I like the story 82 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: of Tootle the Train. But I've been a parent since 83 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 3: I was twenty four years of age. I'm now fifty two, 84 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 3: and there was a long time, and because my kids 85 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 3: are spaced out in age, I would read Toodle the 86 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 3: Train a lot. But there's a lot of dialogue that 87 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: goes with Tootle to Train. So I used to sort 88 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 3: of skim through a bit. 89 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: I struggled with doctor SEUs. I couldn't enjoy it. I 90 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 2: just didn't like it. 91 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: AX is a killer. 92 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 2: Mine never got doctor SEUs. Awful, isn't it? I gave 93 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 2: up on it. 94 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 1: And probably the worst, terrible love. We love your work, 95 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: Justice Sus. I think you're a brilliant man, but not 96 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 1: every night. 97 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 3: No green egg, green eggs and ham. Spoiler alert, he 98 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 3: likes the ham in the end. Get he's into it. Well, 99 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 3: so this is this is great. Zoe's new picture book, 100 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: Back to Sleep, is in all good bookstores today. Say 101 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: hello to Hamish for us. I hope you're all going well. 102 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're okay. Thank you, Thank you for thinking 103 00:04:21,080 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: it was up there in Freedom Town. 104 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I know it must be tough. I bet you're yeah. 105 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 2: I bet you're doing it tough. Good luck, and I 106 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 2: hope you're out of it soon. 107 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:30,839 Speaker 1: Thank you, guys. 108 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: Thanks Okay, Bye 109 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: With Jos and Amanda.