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Speaker 1: This is a podcast about failure with me Lolaberry, author, nutritionist,

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Speaker 1: and yoga teacher join me as we get to know

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Speaker 1: these guests and learn about how their failures have ultimately

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Speaker 1: shaped their dreams. Welcome to fearlessly Failing with Lolaberry, Holy mackerel.

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Speaker 1: Boss we're doing the season five roundup.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: Wow? How do you feel?

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Speaker 2: I feel good? How do you feel?

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Speaker 1: I can't believe how effing bass this has gone?

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Speaker 2: Can you ten weeks?

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Speaker 1: No? But I mean, like I think we've been in lockdown?

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Speaker 1: How long now? Well?

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Speaker 2: Talky seven months? Holy Matt cool, it's a long time.

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Speaker 1: So if this is your first time, all good work.

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Speaker 1: Just breathe straight into that like there. So, if this

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Speaker 1: is your first time listening to us. Basically, at the

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Speaker 1: end of each season, boss On and I do a

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Speaker 1: season recap or roundup. We kind of talk about some

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Speaker 1: of the highlights of the season. We have a bit

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Speaker 1: of a banter. I've put a Q and a out

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Speaker 1: on Insta yesterday for us, so we'll touch on some

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Speaker 1: of that in the in the potto Okay, oh, he's

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Speaker 1: doing a bit of research on the spot, aren't you.

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Speaker 2: In reason, I'm just trying to think back on this

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Speaker 2: season's episode.

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Speaker 1: Quickly, because we're not going to be doing an intro

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Speaker 1: for this pod. Just a little kind of update, a

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Speaker 1: life update. We're here in talkie. It feels very windy

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Speaker 2: A little bit of summer in the ocean days of

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Speaker 2: twenty nine.

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Speaker 1: And we swam in the ocean, but the water temp

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Speaker 1: was eleven.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was pretty cold. It was very very nice

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Speaker 2: to be on the beach.

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Speaker 1: I know, it felt like we're on holiday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt like we're a little bit more free. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: just to kind of sit there and enjoy a little

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Speaker 2: bit of sunshine. It's very nice with you, yeah, very

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Speaker 2: very sweet. And you've had a couple of things been

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Speaker 2: going on. I know you've had some family stuff been happening.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So my nan passed away about a week ago now,

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Speaker 1: and I was so lucky though, because I did get

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Speaker 1: to say goodbye to her because she where she was

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Speaker 1: was in Regional Victoria, and obviously we're in regional Victoria.

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Speaker 1: So it's been really sad but also quite confronting because

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Speaker 1: other family members from Melbourne couldn't get up to see

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Speaker 1: you because of COVID stuff. But I've got my necklace

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Speaker 1: on with her ring. Probably hear me jangling it now,

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Speaker 1: and so it's got my grandma's ring on it, and

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Speaker 1: now it's got my NaN's ring on it. And I

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Speaker 1: wear around my neck every day.

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Speaker 2: So it's nice.

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Speaker 1: It feels nice.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it is lucky. We got to go

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Speaker 2: drive up to Dalasford and do a little goodbye.

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Speaker 1: See your proper and say goodbye, and then also obviously

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Speaker 1: hang with mum. Yeah, because it's my nana's mum's mum.

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Speaker 1: And her name was Dorothy and she was very sassy.

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Speaker 1: She was a tarot card reader, she was a dressmaker,

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Speaker 1: and she'd often say because she won balla the ball

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Speaker 1: in nineteen fifty nine, and she'd often say, you know,

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Speaker 1: she stole all the boys. Yeah, she was very I

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Speaker 1: I'd always call her cheeky Chops because she was very cheeky. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And she had to say you met her, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: Of course, Yeah, I'm glad I got to hang out

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Speaker 2: funny because your mum was like, I can't find any

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Speaker 2: of very important documents, but she's kept her bellow the ball.

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Speaker 1: Sash yeah from nineteen fifty nine.

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Speaker 2: Jesus doesn't it doesn't have a birth certificate. Nothing just happened.

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Speaker 2: That's so funny.

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Speaker 1: So one other thing I want to mention, thank you

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Speaker 2: That's all right.

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Speaker 1: One other thing I want to mention is some of

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Speaker 1: your music was featured in a television show recently called

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Speaker 1: The Heights.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah TV show. So it was a song that

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Speaker 2: I co wrote and produced for another artist, Luna May.

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Speaker 1: So congrats on that one't you know? I was gonna

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Speaker 1: give you a little shout out. Thank you so humble.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about me a little bit more.

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Speaker 1: Well, what else do you want to share?

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Speaker 2: No, that's it.

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Speaker 1: Coffee's going good, music's going good. I'm at full time

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Speaker 1: acting school at the moment, and I'm manuscript writing. I'm

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Speaker 1: officially up to chapter six of the twelve chapter book.

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Speaker 2: So you're halfway there.

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Speaker 1: Well yeah, Like I feel like i'd still want to

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Speaker 1: work on the other chapters, if that makes sense. But

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Speaker 1: I'm definitely halfway down the brain dumping in development, and

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Speaker 1: the skeleton feels a lot stronger now than it did

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Speaker 2: So what happens like once you once you feel like

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Speaker 2: you've kind of written those twelve chapters, would you then

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Speaker 1: So I think you get an editor. I'm pretty sure

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Speaker 1: and that back and forth with editing notes can usually

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Speaker 1: kind of trying to dump as much as I can

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So just putting as many ideas down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. And I just really try and set myself each

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Speaker 1: if I don't finish that chapter, I force myself to

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Speaker 1: start the next chapter the following week. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I mean like they're still a little bit higgordy piggledy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very cool, very cool, very cool.

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Speaker 1: Let's I've got some fun stuff for us.

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Speaker 2: So how domes do you want to talk about the

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Speaker 1: Oh well, people have asked, I want to know what,

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Speaker 2: a rundown of what the book's going to be about.

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Speaker 1: So this is book number eleven. Ye, And everything in

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Speaker 1: the lead up to this book has been My first

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Speaker 1: and then everything else was done with Pam McMillan, one

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Speaker 1: with Murdoch Books Amazing, and this is now a little

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Speaker 1: personal development book. We talk about mental health and failures

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Speaker 1: and the lessons along the way, very similar to this podcast.

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Speaker 1: In fact.

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Speaker 2: That's cool. Yeah, that's a very cool concept.

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Speaker 1: I've written about you already.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nice things, I hope.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, big T. I talked about finding real love.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's something that so many people and

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Speaker 1: I know for all of my twenties. That's something that

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Speaker 1: I really wanted. And I was that girl that had

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Speaker 1: those failed attemps of dating narcissists. Am I allowed to

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Speaker 2: Of course you are. You can say assholes.

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Speaker 1: Narcissist though, like I think, and I just never thought

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Speaker 1: that i'd find someone as kind as you. Ah, So

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Speaker 1: I've written a bit about what real love feels like.

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Speaker 2: That's nice.

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Speaker 1: Matt said to it before we started recording this. He said,

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Speaker 1: now you're driving this lowla. You did, didn't?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you've got the questions in your hand.

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Speaker 2: I haven't prepared anything for this, so I have. I'm

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Speaker 2: just off the cat I have, but I'm a little nervous.

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Speaker 2: Why are you nervous?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know, just just feeling maybe just love

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Speaker 1: love this podcast so much. I don't want I never

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Speaker 1: I've done enough prep. That's I guess.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you've got butterflies because you're sitting opposite me, excitement butterfly,

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Speaker 2: big dreamy blue eyes. And I got clean hair today and.

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Speaker 1: I've you haven't he normally?

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Speaker 2: Oh you have stri straightener.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got those little mini Barbie sized straighteners.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was way too curly. My hair was

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Speaker 2: No, anyway, let's go to the questions, not talk about

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Speaker 1: What do you want to do? Questions? Or do you

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Speaker 1: All right? So EP one and EPP eleven. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: both natural and natural. Harry's got a new book coming

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Speaker 1: Obviously we love natural Harry, we do both times. You've

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Speaker 2: I think I don't think they actually know what he is.

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Speaker 2: But he's like a half Coolly, half Australian Shepherd, half

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Speaker 2: something else. That's more. It's too many harbs, but you

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Speaker 1: really talks about living stainably minimalistic living. She lives in

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Speaker 1: a really cool tiny home. It's just a cool egg

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Speaker 1: and both pods. The reason why we did the second

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Speaker 2: So that's why the second Harry is a really cool person.

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Speaker 2: And she's very not set in their ways. That's not

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Speaker 1: She's got a beautiful set of morals and eth Yes, exactly.

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Speaker 2: I think Cardia Milank Cardia, Cardia is cool.

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Speaker 1: Cardia we end up doing on zoom. We'd been wanting

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Speaker 1: to do it in person because I'm good mates with Cardia.

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Speaker 1: We used to be roommates. Roommates right word yet and

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Speaker 1: when she had a tree house in Sydney and that

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Speaker 1: And because of COVID and lockdown, I don't know, just

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Speaker 1: to get her on. But yeah, she's obviously alleged and

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Speaker 1: she was great social media star. Kate Kendall Yogi from

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Speaker 1: Sid's that one we actually recorded yonks ago nearly a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's super grounded and a legend. Ah funny, funny,

443
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: funny human being. Nazim who's saying, did I know al that?

444
00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 2: Is now that I feel like Nazim His episode is

445
00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:40,440
Speaker 2: going to be a very pivotal kind of episode.

446
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:41,400
Speaker 1: Why.

447
00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 2: I don't know why. He's a very big guest and

448
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: he's kind of like a very like I was, well

449
00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:52,040
Speaker 2: respected person. He's very smart, he's you know, very kind

450
00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 2: of like I don't know, like you know he talks

451
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: about like religion and.

452
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 1: Muslim and oh, he's insanely intelligent, insane, Like we listened

453
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: to a few episodes in the lead up, do you remember, Yeah,

454
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 1: And we listened to a podcast he'd done with Walid

455
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,399
Speaker 1: am I saying that right, yep, and you looked at

456
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: me about thirty forty seconds in and you're like, you

457
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: need to know. He's really smart. Yeah, so so smart,

458
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 1: so smart, and it doesn't take himself seriously at all,

459
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,320
Speaker 1: which is like obviously where his magic is. But the

460
00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,240
Speaker 1: thing that I loved most about our podcast, he really

461
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: let me into his process. Like he was like when

462
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,760
Speaker 1: they do pranks, he's like, oh, no, everybody except the

463
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,680
Speaker 1: one person you're pranking pretty much as an actor, and

464
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: they'll hire right entire restaurants and I'm like, even for

465
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: the dating their Indian prince and the Mumbai Prince and

466
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: he's like, yep, only the girl. Wow, everybody else is

467
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: in on it because it means that the person they're

468
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 1: trying to trick will go along with it a bit

469
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,360
Speaker 1: longer than they usually would Anyway, Very fine, pretty cool.

470
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm not going to mention the other people because they're

471
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: still that we're going to get on because they have

472
00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,920
Speaker 1: I've been recorded yet, and you know what if something

473
00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 1: goes wrong, but that's exciting. We haven't usually given a teaser.

474
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: Like that before. But really good episodes, really strong episodes.

475
00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 2: Really I don't know. The people are just amazing, you know,

476
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 2: and I'll get your words out lalla.

477
00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 1: But like, if it wasn't for Corona, we wouldn't be recorded.

478
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,479
Speaker 1: Most of them are recorded online. All of them are

479
00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: recorded online in fact, and so yes they're recorded on Zoom.

480
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,439
Speaker 1: But if it wasn't for Corona, because we aren't always

481
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: recorded in person, we would never have got the opportunity

482
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: to record those people haven't Polish Man. There are a

483
00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:39,119
Speaker 1: lot of people that are Polish Men ambassadors in there

484
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 1: as well, which is how we were able to connect

485
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,520
Speaker 1: with them. People like Nazine on the pod, who's totally out.

486
00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 2: About grasps grasp but you know, he's.

487
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: A big name, he's a big He just got nominated

488
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 1: last week for like a LOGI or something. Was it

489
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,200
Speaker 1: a LOGI? I think it was, Oh no, it was

490
00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 1: an actor an actor award really yeah, for like best Comedian.

491
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: That's cool, all right, So these are questions now.

492
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Season six get pumped. We're only going to

493
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,239
Speaker 1: take a one week break, is that right?

494
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah? And then it's Christmas and then we're having a

495
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: proper break. Yes, So I've written in here Christmas Epp.

496
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 2: You and I will do a CHRISO epp. Okay, and

497
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,440
Speaker 2: we will have stuff to say announce pos. Will we

498
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: big changes? Oh yeah? Yeah? Exciting and that does not

499
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,160
Speaker 2: make a baby. And we're not getting married.

500
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: So this question that has come in I'm so excited

501
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 1: about because you and I have recently dived into the

502
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 1: wonderful world of Shit's Creek. Yes, the TV show, which

503
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: you've already was.

504
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 2: I have on my second watching with you.

505
00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:55,119
Speaker 1: And I'm very late to the party but absolutely loving

506
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: every single second of it. I think Dan Levy is

507
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: amazing brain and obvious Eugene. Their brains are incredible. But

508
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 1: somebody has said, can you please play the game Two

509
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:11,199
Speaker 1: Truths and a Lie ah, which is off episode one.

510
00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,680
Speaker 1: I think it's off the pilot of Shit's Creek. They

511
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:19,320
Speaker 1: play it, so drop me to start, Okay. I haven't

512
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: got anything in my head, so I'm making this totally

513
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,680
Speaker 1: up on the spot. So for people listening, you tell

514
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: two true things and one lie and the other person

515
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: has got to guess what's true and what's the guess.

516
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:32,920
Speaker 1: The one line is that right?

517
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah?

518
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:36,199
Speaker 1: Have I said it right?

519
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah? Yeah. I'm nervous now because I'm like, I

520
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 2: don't know what to say.

521
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,600
Speaker 1: Well neither do I. Let me hang on.

522
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 2: Let's just we should have prepared this one.

523
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 1: Can you put some nice thinking music in now, nicely

524
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: like edited? Okay, yeah, I can do that, Okay, okay,

525
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: So now I won't feel bad. Okay, okay. True truths

526
00:25:58,400 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: and a lie.

527
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 2: Okay.

528
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: One okay, I can't wait to move to Byron Bay

529
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: with you. Two I bought sneaky chocolates at the supermarket

530
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 1: today and didn't tell you. Three I'd like to have

531
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: Mexican for dinner tonight.

532
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 2: That's very hard.

533
00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,880
Speaker 1: So number one, I can't wait to move to Byron

534
00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:29,919
Speaker 1: Bay with you. Number two, I did a cheeky thing

535
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 1: and bought chocolates at the supermarket today and didn't pay

536
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: the truth. Number three, I'd like to have Mexican for

537
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: dinner tonight. So two are true and one is a lie. Okay,

538
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 1: Well they all could be they could all be true.

539
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: Let's just start with that, because the point of it,

540
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,680
Speaker 1: you can't wait to go to Byron. Yeah, you do

541
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: have a history of sneaking a little.

542
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 2: Chocolate marvelous creation and Mexican is one of your favorite meals. Yeah,

543
00:26:56,560 --> 00:27:03,320
Speaker 2: so I think that the lie. I'm gonna have to

544
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 2: say the chocolate.

545
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: I think the chocolate is the lie.

546
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,560
Speaker 2: Did you have chocolate I got?

547
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 1: Which one do you think is a lie?

548
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: The chocolate, it's a lie.

549
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: I didn't get chocolates with market.

550
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:20,399
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, because you want.

551
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: To know why you had to Rafaelos? Is it? And

552
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 1: you hit them from me last night and I said

553
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: that hurts. Yeah, when we hide each of things.

554
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: So backstory, there's been one or two instances of Lola

555
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 2: going shopping for groceries and sneaking in a little little

556
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 2: treat or chocolate while shopping.

557
00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:43,639
Speaker 1: As your dad would call them, a yum yum.

558
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 2: Yum, and not sharing it with me and then telling

559
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 2: me like two hours later.

560
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

561
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,120
Speaker 2: And then I did it yesterday for the first time,

562
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 2: and you got upset.

563
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: As we're going to bed, I said, boss, I like

564
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:57,680
Speaker 1: to have a chat, which I often do, And I said,

565
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: now it does feel not nice hidden, having an experience

566
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: hidden from hidden from me. I won't do that to

567
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 1: you again. That's how I thought you'd know it's a lie.

568
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: Go your turn.

569
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:16,159
Speaker 2: Okay, So I think it's I love revering negative comments

570
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,479
Speaker 2: that people leave on podcasts. And I've snuck off more

571
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: than once to eat chocolate when I've gone shopping.

572
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: And my.

573
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 2: Favorite thing to do is watch TV with you? So

574
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 2: which one is a lie?

575
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: Watch TV with me? We do more fun things and

576
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: just watch TV.

577
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it doesn't matter what it might be my

578
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 2: favorite thing to do with you.

579
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: No, it'd be like the lawn or nature or something.

580
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: It can't be that you've had chocolate. You've definitely had

581
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: extra chocolate not told me about it because you did

582
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 1: those Rafael answer, come on too easily quick?

583
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 2: One or three?

584
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: Let's either two or three?

585
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 2: Huh?

586
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: Either two or three?

587
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: Let's answer. Okay, make a pick, take a pick three? Three? Wrong,

588
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 2: I've only snuck off once to have chocolate.

589
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:11,959
Speaker 1: Really.

590
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I like sitting on the couch. It's my

591
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: favorite thing.

592
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: Is it's most that's food nor that's.

593
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 2: The simple things, isn't it.

594
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. The next question was asking a bit more about

595
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,000
Speaker 1: the book, the book I'm writing, but I feel like

596
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: we kind of touched on that start someone want to know.

597
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: We've had this question before, but we can definitely talk

598
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: to it again. How do both of us go in

599
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: a relationship with me overcoming and eating disorder?

600
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 2: Mmmm? Tough one, M I think that. I mean, initially

601
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 2: for me, it was definitely a little bit confronting, not

602
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 2: in a bad way, but it was just something that

603
00:29:53,360 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: I had to learn and navigate. I hadn't really experience

604
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 2: that before. And obviously you've done so much work on

605
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: yourself anyway before we'd met, but there's still kind of

606
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 2: little things that always pop up. I think for people

607
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,640
Speaker 2: with eating disorders, I don't think it just goes away.

608
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: I think it's something that has to be managed. So yeah,

609
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, totally fine. But it was a

610
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: process of learning for me, and I.

611
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: Think we had a very honest and open conversation from

612
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: very early on about that. Like I was pretty transparent

613
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: with you about my struggles. And I remember on our

614
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: first like serious date, yeah, oh, we're also two years

615
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,760
Speaker 1: celebrating two years happy to you Happy two years. Yeah,

616
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 1: understated celebration. Although we went to the Lawn, which is

617
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: a before retreating point Lonsdale on our first proper date,

618
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: I said to you, I'd like you to know I

619
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 1: have a therapist, and you said, I find that really attractive.

620
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: I've got one too, And so I think because I

621
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 1: was really open about having a therapist, that probably allowed

622
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: you to go, yeah, this might be hard, but she

623
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: is getting psychological help to help her through this mental condition.

624
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: Because it is a mental condition. It's not so much physical,

625
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: even though you're doing a lot of physical things. And

626
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: so I think, and I say this nearly in every

627
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: podcast I go on as a guest, like mental health

628
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: is number one. Getting a psychologist or a therapist involved

629
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: is so important, especially with how prevalent eating disorders are.

630
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: So many people will come to me and write to

631
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: me and go, can you take my case and take

632
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:37,760
Speaker 1: me on as a client? And I will just say

633
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: no and refer them to somebody that's qualified counselor or

634
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: therapist or psychiatrist, whatever it is. So for me, having

635
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: a therapist is key. I know I wouldn't have met you.

636
00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 1: I know for sure I wouldn't be in a happy

637
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 1: relationship if I hadn't done that work. So I would

638
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 1: say that's probably the key to success with navigating an

639
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: eating disorder and a relation that is long term.

640
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: I think that for me, it didn't worry me so

641
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 2: much because you were working on it. And I said

642
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: to myself, as long as you're working on it, then

643
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, will always be supportive of that. But it

644
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: is hard to be in a relationship with somebody that's

645
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 2: not working on say, if they do have some sort

646
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 2: of issue or something they struggle with, if they aren't

647
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 2: working on that, then it does manifest in other areas

648
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: of their life and relationship and does make relationships hard totally.

649
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: And a friend of mine once taught to me, you

650
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: bring in a mirror of where you're at in your life,

651
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: and I would, or when I had was really bad

652
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,680
Speaker 1: with eating disorder stuff, I'd always you know, extreme diet

653
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: and then start dating someone, and so I'd bring in

654
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: these really yucky people because I hadn't kind of like

655
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: done the work on myself, and I'd starve myself to

656
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 1: get myself to a level where I thought it was

657
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: okay to date. And so then you end up dating

658
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: really negative personality or like someone that's going to have

659
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,640
Speaker 1: a detrimental effect on you, and it's really because you

660
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: haven't done that psychological work that needs to happen in

661
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: order for you to understand and grapp with. Also, eating

662
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: disorders take ten years to recover from. Yeah, so I'd

663
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: be only coming out of it probably now, and you

664
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: see I still have top tricky of course.

665
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it's like anything, you know, I still have

666
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: you know, I work on my anxiety and stuff like that,

667
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 2: but I sometimes have tricky days with that.

668
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean you've come so far though, Yeah, don't

669
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: you feel that?

670
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I would say like ultimately, that took, you know,

671
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 2: a whole twelve months to get over the initial you know,

672
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,680
Speaker 2: really bad anxiety and panic, and then another twelve months

673
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 2: to be able to live with it and function properly

674
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 2: with it, you know.

675
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:49,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's another important thing. Any mental health thing,

676
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 1: it takes time, and it takes the right kind of

677
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: therapist for you, and it takes it takes hard work.

678
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 1: Like I've been with my therapist now for three over

679
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: three years, and there was a full year and a

680
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: half in there where I was like, oh my god,

681
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: nothing's happening in my life. I'm not meaning when I'm

682
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: not traveling, my green cards an't approved. All these things

683
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 1: were going on, and he said, why can't you understand

684
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: that you're building the scaffolding.

685
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 2: For the rest of your life exactly.

686
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 1: And I just couldn't get my head around this slower

687
00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 1: pace of just like consistently just doing the mental work.

688
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so yeah, yeah, I haven't looked at like,

689
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: you know, previous relationships and you know, like those those

690
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 2: people would benefit so much from a little bit of help,

691
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 2: and you know, it's just improving their lives and like

692
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: I mean, ultimately, like I'd never want to be in

693
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 2: a relationship with them anyway, but for their own sake,

694
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: I'd love to see them get a little bit of

695
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 2: help for you know, the stuff that they were going through,

696
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: because looking back now, I can definitely see that, like

697
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 2: they've you know, obviously I wasn't aware, but you know,

698
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 2: there's definitely some eating disorder issues. There's never obviously addiction issues,

699
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 2: there's you know, there's all these little things that crop

700
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 2: up and manifest But yeah, I don't know, a little

701
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 2: bit of help I think just improves your life a lot.

702
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: And I think even as seeing a therapist or mental

703
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: health just to be a better communicator, is that the

704
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: word to your partner, you know, and just kind of

705
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: like being like, well, I want to have a healthy relationship. Therefore,

706
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: I want to understand not only my own human behavior,

707
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: but my partners. And that's why I think it's kind

708
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: of like a magic ingredient. Really cool question that came through.

709
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:37,320
Speaker 1: How would you define success?

710
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: Oh, that's a hard one. I think I used to

711
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,720
Speaker 2: define success by there would be some kind of pivotal

712
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,879
Speaker 2: moment where everything changed for me, you know, or I'd

713
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 2: make a big hunker money, or I'd do something, you know, groundbreaking.

714
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: I realize that that isn't for me, and that's probably

715
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 2: not going to happen. And when I look back, success

716
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: has been a series of small things that have gone

717
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: right for me, you know, and ultimately led me to

718
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: where I am today, which you know, I'm the happiest

719
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 2: person I've ever been. I'm ah, you just touch my hand.

720
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: So I think, yeah, I think success is just doing

721
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 2: a lot of little things right and just being okay

722
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 2: with that and being happy with that. You know, I

723
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 2: probably still haven't done like my big thing that I've

724
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 2: set out to do, or my big achievement, or like

725
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: the biggest fucking movie or whatever it is, or the

726
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: biggest TV sink that I've ever had, but having.

727
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: Explained what a sink is or when you say movie

728
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: you mean movie score.

729
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a movie score, and like a sink is

730
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 2: getting your song on an ad or a TV show.

731
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,160
Speaker 2: But when I look back, I've actually had quite a few,

732
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, mid size ones, and ultimately like, that's what's

733
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: made me successful, you know, so, But I don't know,

734
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 2: it's just that that's when I look back, I can

735
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 2: look back and just be happy on that, and that's

736
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 2: what success is for me.

737
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 1: So would you define success as happiness?

738
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: Yeah? For me? Yeah, very nice, Yeah, very nice. Yeah.

739
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,800
Speaker 1: I think I've sat with this as well. I'm writing

740
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 1: a little bit about success in the book at the moment,

741
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:31,760
Speaker 1: and I think success is nothing materialistic. So I definitely

742
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 1: when I was younger, I was like, oh, yeah, well,

743
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: it's that Louis Vuitton bag, it's that epic house, it's

744
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: that certain amount of money in the bank. But I

745
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: actually think it's more about knowing who you are, understanding

746
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: your values and morals and really not wavering from them

747
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: and having the courage to step away from what's not

748
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: serving you in order for you to much to the

749
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: beat of your own drum.

750
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: That's cool.

751
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: What sounds very spiritual. But I think it's this sense

752
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: of being like, oh, I know who I am, I

753
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,840
Speaker 1: know where I'm going, I know what I'm doing, and

754
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: being unwavering on that. To me, that feels like success

755
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,480
Speaker 1: because really, we get so caught up in this idea

756
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,600
Speaker 1: of what we think success is. When you have to

757
00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 1: be able to access that in the here and now.

758
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really cool. I like that. Knowing who you

759
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: are that's what success is. Okay, that is kind of

760
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,240
Speaker 2: the ultimate goal, isn't it? Like really understanding yourself?

761
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I think, like saying this to my therapist

762
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: being around Nan whiles she was pasting, like you're really

763
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: forced to confront your own shit. Yeah, and you're really

764
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: it sounds really selfish, and it is selfish. So you're

765
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 1: mourning and you're grieving this person you love and you

766
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: don't want to let go of, and at the same time,

767
00:38:53,800 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: you're witnessing death, and so you're really confronted with, oh,

768
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: my god, like, who am I, what am I doing?

769
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: What is my purpose? What am I like? And so

770
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: you're grappling with these big ideas about what life is

771
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: whilst you're witnessing how fast it can go. And so

772
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: it's this really weird reality check. And I know what

773
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,560
Speaker 1: I fully acknowledge that what I'm saying is selfish, but

774
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: I do think it is one of the byproducts of

775
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: witnessing death. I think you're forced to face your own

776
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: mortality and therefore face your own life. And yeah, and

777
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: that's why I think I feel clearer about what success is.

778
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,879
Speaker 1: It's not necessarily about some specific destination. It's more about like, hey,

779
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: this is who I am, this is where I'm going,

780
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: and this is what I'm doing. That kind of makes sense.

781
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:46,960
Speaker 2: It does.

782
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: Final instant question as a couple, what have we found

783
00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: has worked and hasn't worked with COVID? Or like, what

784
00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 1: have been the challenges with COVID and what have we loved?

785
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 1: So I would say, like we've got to live together

786
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: as a result of COVID. We're in Dad's holiday house.

787
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: Before anyone writes and hating, we haven't left since March.

788
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:09,800
Speaker 1: We've stayed.

789
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 2: We lived here, we are permanent residents.

790
00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: We've got a letter in our car when we travel,

791
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: we've got bills.

792
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: So, yes, it is your dad's house that we are.

793
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: It's my dad's shout out Noli Lenia's stay in the

794
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 1: holiday home. We're recording it. We're recording in his bedroom, right.

795
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: He's upset that he hasn't been able to come down

796
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 2: in seven months.

797
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: With the pooch. So yeah, what would you say is

798
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: like as a couple with COVID, because like, let's be honest,

799
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,400
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of breakups during COVID.

800
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:43,279
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think that the breakups occur because, yeah, like

801
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 2: people aren't equipped to deal with shit in a relationship.

802
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: You know a lot of people's relationships. Yeah, it's just

803
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: all happy and you go on dates and you have

804
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 2: dinners and there's nothing super heavy, and then as soon

805
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 2: as anything bad happens, people tend to run away from that.

806
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 2: I've definitely been through enough shit in my life and

807
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: past relationships to know how to kind of deal with

808
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 2: the harder stuff and the heavier stuff, and also having

809
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 2: a therapist for us well, for me, dealing with you

810
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 2: is definitely understanding where you are at, like how you're feeling,

811
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: what kind of mood you're in. Maybe some days you're

812
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 2: feeling good about lockdown, some days you're feeling shit about lockdown.

813
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: So for me, it's just kind of navigating how you're feeling,

814
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 2: you know, and maybe it's the day that you need

815
00:41:37,080 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: a bit more support and I'll give you a bit

816
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: more support, or it's a day that you need a

817
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: little bit of space, and then you know, you go

818
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: work downstairs and I'll work upstairs and understanding.

819
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:51,439
Speaker 1: You know, have you enjoyed this time?

820
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've loved it. Yeah. And it's funny because you're like,

821
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: I haven't seen you all day. I'm like, we sit

822
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 2: a meter and a half apart from each other. What

823
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 2: about what I'm down doing acting school that's a Saturday,

824
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 2: that's one day a week, and night schools. Yeah, but

825
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 2: that's like three four hours and usually I you know,

826
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: and working last night.

827
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: Last night when I was acting school, came up and

828
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: someone was a bit tipsy, weren't.

829
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 2: They Well, so I used a bit of white wine

830
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 2: in my dinner and then I had to drink it.

831
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: So so good. But yeah, I think it's having understanding

832
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 2: and also understanding yourself. So when I'm in a bit

833
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,840
Speaker 2: of a shitty mood, I've been able to kind of

834
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 2: communicate and be like, hey, I'm like I'm a bit

835
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: in a bit of a shitty mood today. This is

836
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: kind of what I need or this is what I

837
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 2: don't want you.

838
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: To do and usually he'll be like, can the best

839
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 1: way to remedy Matt's mood is if I take over

840
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: cooking duties.

841
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I mean, like what eighty ninety percent I cook?

842
00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: Let's say seventy.

843
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 2: I think eighty ninety. But if I'm a bit flat

844
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 2: or I don't want to cook, so that's busy, yeah,

845
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 2: or busy. So that's usually my telltale sign of hey,

846
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:06,720
Speaker 2: can you make dinner tonight? Because they just can't be fuked,

847
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 2: you know, and you've just given me that space or

848
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 2: taking over is massive for me.

849
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: Well it turns oh, you're welcome, well, thank you, but

850
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: it also I don't know, it just it just feels

851
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 1: like respect to me. That's all that feels like. I've

852
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: loved it because we haven't lived together before this, so

853
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: because I was always planning on going to America. So

854
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,160
Speaker 1: I've loved that we've been able to live together this

855
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: entire time and be around one another and be in

856
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 1: each other's space and really enjoy it. I've also loved

857
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 1: being on the surf coast, like and you know we're

858
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 1: going to go to Queenslife tomorrow and just soak up

859
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 1: this part of Australia that we may never have done

860
00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: in our lifetime properly. And yeah, we just go on

861
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: road trips and walks and nature.

862
00:44:01,000 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think. And I mean like we've been dating

863
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 2: two years, I've been living together seven months, you know,

864
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 2: like I haven't I haven't sat there and thought, fuck this,

865
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 2: I want to like get the fuck out of the house,

866
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 2: or I want to go like get away from you.

867
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 1: I'm egg boss, I'm a good egg.

868
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 2: I'm just saying like I've never not once had that

869
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 2: feeling in past relationships. I've had that feeling. Yeah, well

870
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 2: I might holy fuck, I need to get the fuck

871
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,600
Speaker 2: away from this person, you know, like I I definitely

872
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 2: don't have any of that with you, which has been nice.

873
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: But I think again, this comes down to therapy. This

874
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Speaker 1: comes down to respect. This comes down to finding your

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Speaker 1: partner like your soul mate if you want to go

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Speaker 1: down the hippie route, and I think it comes down

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Speaker 1: to like a very respectful, honest, true love. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: like we're very true and transparent with one another. Maybe

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Speaker 1: too transparent, you're about as I talk about farts and poohs.

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Speaker 2: Is that why? Yep? Too much? I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: going to stop, Boss, It's only going to get worse,

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Speaker 2: isn't Maybe, well.

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Speaker 1: Depends if I get on top of my food intolerances.

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Speaker 1: I guess, God, say what you want to say.

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Speaker 2: I just keep dating.

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Speaker 1: Basically farts? Is that what you're trying to Yeah, what

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Speaker 1: were we talking about? I think we just got off track.

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Speaker 1: Oh about COVID, But we end up talking about farts

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Speaker 1: and poos. Some people are probably going to tap out

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Speaker 1: of this. We might get some negative comments.

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Speaker 2: Boss about too much fart talk?

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Speaker 1: Aren't they podcast where girls just talk very openly about sex,

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Speaker 1: sex and like vibrators.

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Speaker 2: I think that that that's like so topical right now?

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Speaker 1: Eggs, eggs, tremember when I got given away?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got given Do you ever use it?

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Speaker 1: I gave it away. I never use I've wrapped it

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Speaker 1: up and gave it away.

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Speaker 2: Good to give it to you a mate. But I

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Speaker 2: don't think she ever knew that, that's right. She just

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Speaker 2: thought it was a crystal What looks.

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Speaker 1: Like an Easter egg? Doesn't well it really because an

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Speaker 1: east egg means surprise, right, huh? Like Taylor Swift has

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Speaker 1: East eggs in a it's a surprise.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, Hey, you find an Easter egg.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like we're rabbiting now. So I'm going

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Speaker 1: to just tie this up in a nice little bow

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to end by saying, do yourself a

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Speaker 1: favor if you're getting any the Lockdown Low's or Melancholies

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Speaker 1: or anything like that. What Shit's Creek? It is so good.

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Speaker 1: It's very funny, and it's light, and it's full of love.

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Speaker 1: Like it's very heartfelt, wouldn't you say?

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Speaker 2: Absolutely? And once you finish watching Shit's Creek, go back

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Speaker 2: and watch all the American Pies for Eugene Levy.

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Speaker 1: And just so you know when you're watching it, Eugene

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Speaker 1: Levy is Dan Levy's dad.

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Speaker 2: And then.

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Speaker 1: Why Twyler is the name Twiler Twyler who works in

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Speaker 1: the cafe. She's his daughter, So like three from the family,

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Speaker 1: and it's all Canadian actors pretty much in it.

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Speaker 2: So it's yeah, I know, it's good. Great, And doesn't

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Speaker 2: Eugene's brother write on it or produce as well?

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Speaker 1: Probably Frank Levy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's like a whole family affair.

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Speaker 1: It's nice.

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Speaker 2: Okay, love you Love You? Season six, can't wait a

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Speaker 2: bit more? Lockdown with You bring it on all right,

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Speaker 2: bye gang bye bye.

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Speaker 1: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 1: thank you to our guests and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 1: for podcast is available on all streaming platforms. I'd love

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