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Speaker 1: Well, we know eight women die every day in Australia

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Speaker 1: from breast cancer, which is why NT Health is urging

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Speaker 1: Territorians to learn more about this disease. October is Breast

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Speaker 1: Cancer Awareness Month and now is the time to learn

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Speaker 1: more about the prevention, diagnosis and treatment of the country's

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Speaker 1: most diagnosed cancer. To talk more about it is the

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Speaker 1: McGrath Breast Cancer Nurse from the Alan Walker Center and

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Speaker 1: Royal Darwin Hospital. Noel O'Reilly Noel, good.

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Speaker 2: Morning, Good morning Matt. How are you? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well, thank you, Noel. Look, no one we know breast cancer.

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Speaker 1: I guess it's a disease we talk a lot about.

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Speaker 1: It's highly publicized, but it's not necessarily something we know

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Speaker 1: a lot about.

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Speaker 2: Well, I suppose October Resolve is the month that we

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Speaker 2: try and rease awareness amongst men and women about the

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Speaker 2: importance of checking you know, real breasts regularly. By knowing

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Speaker 2: what's normal for you, this will help you to text

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Speaker 2: any changes in the appearance or feel of the braain

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Speaker 2: so people know when to go and see their GP.

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Speaker 2: You know. I suppose checking checking the breast the most

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Speaker 2: important thing to do is check around the same time

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Speaker 2: each month and checking your breast by following three simple

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Speaker 2: steps of look, feel and learn or what we recommend

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Speaker 2: and as we say in them a graph foundation if

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Speaker 2: you grow them, know them. So you know, looking at

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Speaker 2: the shape and appearance of breasts and nipples in the

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Speaker 2: mirror with your hands by your sides within recommends that

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Speaker 2: you raise your arms above your head and have another

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Speaker 2: look and see if there's any change in the shape

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Speaker 2: and the appearance of the breasts or nipple in that position.

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Speaker 2: And then feeling feel all of the breast tissue and

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Speaker 2: the nipples, looking for anything that isn't normal for you.

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Speaker 2: Feel from under the collarbone to below the brawl line

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Speaker 2: and under the armpit as well. And then finally just

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Speaker 2: learn what's normal for you. You know, as we know,

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Speaker 2: breasts come in all different shapes and sizes, so just

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Speaker 2: get to know your normal and then it's your doctor

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Speaker 2: if you notice any changes.

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Speaker 1: No, well, what are some of the statistics of breast

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Speaker 1: cancer like in the Northern Territory and Australia.

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Speaker 2: Well, in the Northern Territory last year twenty nineteen, just

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Speaker 2: in the Royal Darwin Hospital alone, we had eighty six

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Speaker 2: breast cancer diagnosis and then this year in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: Australia wide, it's estimated that nineteen thou eight hundred and

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Speaker 2: seven women and one hundred and sixty seven men are

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Speaker 2: estimated to be diagnosed with breast cancer in Australia this year.

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Speaker 1: And is that an increase or decrease on previous years?

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Speaker 2: So it's a it is an increase. Previously it was

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Speaker 2: one in eight people were women were being diagnosed with

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Speaker 2: breast cancer, and now it's one in seven women are

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Speaker 2: being diagnosed with breast cancer by the age of eighty five.

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Speaker 1: Well, is there a particular age group or demographic that

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Speaker 1: are most likely to be affected?

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Speaker 2: So definitely the age group that you know the screen

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Speaker 2: is targeted at as is age fifty to seventy four,

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Speaker 2: So we definitely recommend that everyone in that age group

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Speaker 2: get or gets go to breast screen for their two

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Speaker 2: yearly screening mammograms. But then outside of that, of course,

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Speaker 2: there are women and men that are diagnosed at a

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Speaker 2: younger age. So that's why we're just you know, always

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Speaker 2: trying to raise awareness that there are people diagnosed out

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Speaker 2: of those age ranges. So it just doesn't affect the

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Speaker 2: fifty to seventy four age group. Men and women younger

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Speaker 2: and older can get diagnosed.

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Speaker 1: And now, well you've touched on a couple of times

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Speaker 1: something really important there that not I guess people might know,

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Speaker 1: but it's not as common. But men can get breast

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Speaker 1: cancer as well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, and you know, not a lot of men

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Speaker 2: are aware of that fact. And that's another thing that

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Speaker 2: we're trying to highlight in October. You know that the

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Speaker 2: I suppose the main message for the men is that

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Speaker 2: they need to be aware that men can be affected

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Speaker 2: by breast cancer too. As I said, at one hundred's

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Speaker 2: estimates of hundred and sixty seven men will be diagnosed

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Speaker 2: with breast cancer in Australia this year. And you know,

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Speaker 2: the men shouldn't feel embarrassed going to their GP if

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Speaker 2: they do find a lump or find a change in

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Speaker 2: their breast. You know, it's really important swallow the prize

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Speaker 2: go to the GP because we do know that early

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Speaker 2: diagnosis leads to much better outcomes.

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Speaker 1: What are some of those signs and symptoms both men

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Speaker 1: and women should be looking for.

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Speaker 2: So generally, when you're checking your breasts, you know you're

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Speaker 2: looking out for a general change in the size or

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Speaker 2: shape that's unusual for you a lump, or even a

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Speaker 2: change in the appearance of the breast such as dimpling

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Speaker 2: or redness, any area that feels different to the rest

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Speaker 2: shape or the appearance of the nipples, which as the

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Speaker 2: nipple being pulled inwards, or the development of a rash

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Speaker 2: and discharge coming from the nipple, particularly if it's a

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Speaker 2: bloody charge. And then finally, we should all be you know,

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Speaker 2: feeling under the arm as well and around the color

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Speaker 2: bone to check for any swelling or lumps in those areas.

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Speaker 1: And what should people be doing if they are showing

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Speaker 1: any of these signs or symptoms.

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Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I would say, don't panic, but

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Speaker 2: I know that's easier said than done. Most changes in

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Speaker 2: the breast aren't related to breast cancer at all, so

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Speaker 2: the chances are most people will be fine. And however,

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Speaker 2: you know, if you do find a lumper, notice any

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Speaker 2: change in the breast, it's important to go to the

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Speaker 2: GP immediately. And again, you know, in October, with it

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Speaker 2: being Breast cancer Awareness months, we're you know, trying to

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Speaker 2: emphasize that the sooner you see your GP after finding

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Speaker 2: a change in your breast the better and the outcomes

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Speaker 2: are much better. Now.

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Speaker 1: Well, just finally, there's some anecdotal evidence to suggest that

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Speaker 1: Aussies have been more reluctant to have medical tests and

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Speaker 1: exams during COVID nineteen. Is that a worry for you?

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Speaker 2: Well, it is, it is, and I suppose it is

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Speaker 2: understandable when I think of, you know, the states and

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Speaker 2: the cities that have been harder with COVID nineteen. It's

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Speaker 2: a frightening disease. So I can understand why men and

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Speaker 2: women are more reluctant to get out and go to

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Speaker 2: their GP to get checked out because they've got the

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Speaker 2: fear contracting COVID nineteen. But you know, all these health centers,

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Speaker 2: hospitals GP practices have got you know, measures in place

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Speaker 2: to screen everybody and protect the general public from getting

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Speaker 2: COVID nineteen when they go to a GP practice, So

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Speaker 2: they shouldn't let that stop them from getting checked out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, as I understand it, in some cases there were

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Speaker 1: people who couldn't get certain checks during COVID. Just finally, know, well,

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Speaker 1: if people, as you mentioned, it is October espress can

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Speaker 1: Awareness month, what can people do and where can they

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Speaker 2: So we'll definitely go to the McGrath foundation website or

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Speaker 2: Cancer Australia website and also be CNA website. I've got

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Speaker 2: very good information on breast awareness and guide you into

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Speaker 2: what to do if you do find a lump here

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Speaker 2: in Darwin more locally, of course, if anybody is worried,

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Speaker 2: they are free to go onto the McGrath Foundation website

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Speaker 2: and get my phone number, my colleagues, Indy's phone Umbroun

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Speaker 2: and give us a call. It's people can sell for fur,

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Speaker 2: sell for fir and they can just give us a

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Speaker 2: call if they're worried about something and we can guide

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Speaker 2: So we're very happy to take holds from men and

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Speaker 2: women that are concerned, but usually the first stop would

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Speaker 1: Absolutely good on your note, Noel, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for your time this morning.

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Speaker 2: No problem, Thank you so much much less.

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Speaker 1: Thank you you too. That is Noel O'Reilly, a McGrath

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Speaker 1: breast cancer nurse from the Allan Walker Center and Royal

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Speaker 1: Dawen Hospital