WEBVTT - ASK UNCUT -Am I a bad feminist? 

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, and I'll welcome back to another episode of

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<v Speaker 1>A Life on Cut. This is ask Gun Cut, your

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<v Speaker 1>Thursday edition, You're down and dirty edition where you writing

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<v Speaker 1>your deep duck burning questions and we do our best

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<v Speaker 1>to answer them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Brittany and I'm Laura, and I am coming to

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<v Speaker 2>you guys from Byron Bay.

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<v Speaker 3>Could I sound like any more of an influencer right now?

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<v Speaker 2>But firstly, I just want to say, if I sound

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit weird on this record, it is because

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<v Speaker 2>I packed my road caster.

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<v Speaker 1>I packed my microphones.

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<v Speaker 2>Like Britta and I, we are well skilled at doing

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<v Speaker 2>these remote recordings. Now, however, I got here and the

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<v Speaker 2>whole thing is carved it. So I'm currently recording this

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<v Speaker 2>over zoom, just like the old days.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to reiterate for you guys that don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>The road cast is the machine we recording. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>the size of a suitcase has got all these cords

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<v Speaker 1>and we take our microphones. I managed to take mine, Laura,

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<v Speaker 1>around the world with me. You had one trip to

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Bay. God knows what has happened in your luggage.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but it carved it. Anyway. We are

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<v Speaker 1>so determined to bring you guys the episode, so we've

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<v Speaker 1>made do We've got a backup plan. It's gonna be fine.

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<v Speaker 1>But what it does mean is that the start of

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<v Speaker 1>this episode might sound a little bit different to the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the episode, but we're committed. We're here for

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<v Speaker 1>you guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Totally just persevere. I swear that this is just the

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<v Speaker 3>intro chat.

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<v Speaker 2>We actually recorded all of the questions before I left

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of days ago, but we thought we wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to make sure that the intro was in real time,

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<v Speaker 2>just in case anything crazy or wild happened in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And something crazy and wild did happen in the world,

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<v Speaker 2>and everybody's talking about it, and I honestly just can't

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<v Speaker 2>even tell you. I was in tears today when the

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<v Speaker 2>news broke that little Cleo in Western Australia was found.

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<v Speaker 2>If anybody doesn't know this news, you've been living under

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<v Speaker 2>a rock. But it was just the most incredible thing

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<v Speaker 2>when that news broke.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, there is no better news than anyone, I think

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<v Speaker 1>in Australia or around the world that followed this case.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing more that you want to hear than a

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<v Speaker 1>child that has been missing has been found safe and well.

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<v Speaker 1>But if anyone doesn't know, we'll give you a quick backstory.

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<v Speaker 1>I am like, I'm making an assumption that Australia knows,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you don't, Little Cleo Smith she's a four

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<v Speaker 1>year old girl and on October sixteen, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do the math right now, but it's about

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen or twenty days ago. She was taken from her

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<v Speaker 1>tent in a sleeping bag. Like at the start, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a bit like what's happened? Has she gotten up

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<v Speaker 1>and walked out of the tent on her own and

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<v Speaker 1>then gotten lost in the middle of the night. That's

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<v Speaker 1>actually what they thought happened. At the beginning. They were

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<v Speaker 1>searching land everywhere, they were searching the ocean. They thought

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<v Speaker 1>she had just wandered off. It just wasn't fathomable that

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<v Speaker 1>somebody could go into the tent while the whole family

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<v Speaker 1>is sleeping and take a child. It turned into a

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<v Speaker 1>criminal case. They started to search for this man. Now

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and I cannot wait until the police

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<v Speaker 1>do release this information. I don't know how they managed

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<v Speaker 1>to track her down, but it is the most amazing

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<v Speaker 1>police work. And I think every single person that has

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<v Speaker 1>searched non stop twenty four hours a day for the

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<v Speaker 1>last few weeks. For this little girl needs a reward.

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<v Speaker 1>It's absolutely incredible and it just goes to show you

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<v Speaker 1>what can happen when everybody comes together and we do

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<v Speaker 1>have some amazing police work. I'm just ecstatic and I

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<v Speaker 1>actually can't believe we got this outcome.

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<v Speaker 2>I think all of Australia yesterday cried tears of joy

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<v Speaker 2>that Clara was found. And I know that there were

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<v Speaker 2>so many people in our Facebook group who were sharing

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<v Speaker 2>news articles and if you haven't been following the story, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday the Deputy Police Commissioner Cole Blanche and i'd press

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<v Speaker 2>release that was about four am in the morning to

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<v Speaker 2>say that Claire had been found in a home in Carnarvon,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the same area that she's from. It's the

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<v Speaker 2>same area that she went missing from. They picked her

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<v Speaker 2>up and the Police Commissioner said that the officer who

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<v Speaker 2>found her went into the house. She was found in

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<v Speaker 2>a bedroom in this house from a man who is

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<v Speaker 2>completely unrelated to the family. So there is definitely so

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<v Speaker 2>much more information that's going to come out there. But

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<v Speaker 2>they picked her up and asked her what her name

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<v Speaker 2>is and her response was, Hi, my name is Cleo.

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<v Speaker 2>And that I think just is the most incredible thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The craziest thing about this, And I guess I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it is crazy, but it's not. But for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time ever, the state government offered a one million dollar

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<v Speaker 1>reward to help find Clear. And now they haven't said yet,

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<v Speaker 1>no one is released to say that the information which

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<v Speaker 1>may have inevitably helped them find Clear and taken his

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<v Speaker 1>men to custody. We don't know if that actually came

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<v Speaker 1>because of the reward, but what they are saying is

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<v Speaker 1>it's highly likely it did. Because a one million dollar reward.

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<v Speaker 1>All of a sudden, people are remembering things. People are

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<v Speaker 1>phoning up to talk about things that probably they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think were relevant, but all of a sudden, when there's

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<v Speaker 1>money involved, and it should not be like that, but

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<v Speaker 1>people start to think maybe that little bit of information

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<v Speaker 1>is relevant. And the neighbors came forward and said, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, this is a thirty six year old man

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<v Speaker 1>that they have in custody. They said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>we actually did see him shopping and he was buying

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<v Speaker 1>nappies and we thought, well, that's a bit weird because

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have a kid. But at the time, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't really think about it, and you don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>person next door to In this tight knick community of

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<v Speaker 1>canav and there's only four thousand people, there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>you think that he would have done that, that he

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<v Speaker 1>would have that little girl locked inside this room totally.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess, like one of the things that stood

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<v Speaker 2>out so much from all the media and press releases

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<v Speaker 2>that came out yesterday was, you know, and everyone wants

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<v Speaker 2>to know how she is, Like, how is clear? What

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<v Speaker 2>has happened? People want to know, they want answers to

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<v Speaker 2>these questions. But the overarching statement that came out was

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<v Speaker 2>that she is.

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<v Speaker 1>Alive and well.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think as absolutely joyful and happy that everybody

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<v Speaker 2>is that she has been found. I just I read

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<v Speaker 2>that and I was like, alive and well, like, what

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<v Speaker 2>does that even mean when you've been abducted for eighteen days?

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<v Speaker 2>And I know that there's privacy and everything else that

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<v Speaker 2>goes around these sorts of things, and maybe we'll never

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<v Speaker 2>know what happened, and maybe we shouldn't know, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's none of our business. Really.

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<v Speaker 3>The most important thing is that she's safe. But I

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<v Speaker 3>just read that sentence and I was like, alive, and well,

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<v Speaker 3>how the fuck can you be well after you've been

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<v Speaker 3>kidnapped for eighteen days from your home. My heart absolutely

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<v Speaker 3>breaks for her family, and they've come out and spoken

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<v Speaker 3>a lot about the online trolling that they'd experienced during

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<v Speaker 3>this time. I can't imagine how incredibly.

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<v Speaker 2>Difficult it would be surviving those eighteen nineteen days without

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<v Speaker 2>your child and not knowing what had happened to them,

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<v Speaker 2>but also experiencing the social and public commentary of people

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<v Speaker 2>accusing you or thinking that you might have some involvement

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<v Speaker 2>in this is just so harrowing and horrific. But all

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<v Speaker 2>in all, and not to start this conversation off with

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<v Speaker 2>a negative conversation, because it is honestly just the most

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful news that she has been found. But this is

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest thing that's happened in Australia and we can't

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<v Speaker 2>not talk about it. Everybody is talking about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And just before we get into the episode, I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to add one more thing. I can't stress

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<v Speaker 1>enough something that Laurie just said. I absolutely don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we will ever know what happened to her, and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think we should. I don't think any of us

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<v Speaker 1>is entitled to know. I think that that is something

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<v Speaker 1>that the family will deal with in private. Much as

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<v Speaker 1>the public are invested, we should be invested to a

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<v Speaker 1>point where we've helped get Clear back and we're happy

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<v Speaker 1>for her welfare. We're happy that she's back home and safe,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that that's where it ends. So anyway, team,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that that is probably a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a different conversation and a different introduction than we usually

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<v Speaker 1>do on Life on Cut, especially on Ask Guncut, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's just no way we couldn't touch base on this

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<v Speaker 1>because it is It is the best news we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hear, possibly this year, but definitely this week, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're just so ecstatic that little Clear has been found.

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<v Speaker 1>And on that note, it is time to get into

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<v Speaker 1>the questions. So question and number one, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>kick start this off, Laura. I was hoping you guys

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<v Speaker 1>can give me some advice on how to ask my

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<v Speaker 1>boss for a pay rise. I have been in the

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<v Speaker 1>hospitality industry for ten years and have spent the last

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<v Speaker 1>five in upper management and completing a degree in hospitality

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<v Speaker 1>management in twenty seventeen. As I'm only young. I'm twenty four.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel as though my skills are somewhat being taken

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<v Speaker 1>for granted being a young female. I love my job,

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<v Speaker 1>I love my employer, but I'm at the stage of

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<v Speaker 1>my career where I'm really realizing my worth and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to keep working for the salary that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>on when I know I could be getting paid more elsewhere. Ps.

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<v Speaker 1>My boss and I have become really close recently and

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<v Speaker 1>we have a really jovial slash professional relationship. We often

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<v Speaker 1>have a wine after work, she invites me over for dinner.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just a bit worried that asking for a pay

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<v Speaker 1>your rise might hinder the great working relationship that I

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<v Speaker 1>have with her. Please help. We all want more money. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>everyone wants more money. I want more money, and you

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like you deserve it if you've done your due diligence,

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<v Speaker 1>you've done your studies, you've been in it for ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>But actually I have one little question. You're only twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>but you've been in for ten years. Were you working

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<v Speaker 1>at fourteen?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's probably been working hospitalities fourteen and six months.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>It is it fifteen nine months? Not fourteen years? Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>you're an absolute boss.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So my thing is everybody finds it hard to

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<v Speaker 2>ask for more money. Like everyone, it's so hard to

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<v Speaker 2>go to your boss and ask for more money. It's

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<v Speaker 2>hard to sit down and have those conversations. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>that there's that big fear of like, well, what if

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<v Speaker 2>they say no? And you know you don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>offend them. But the reality is you can't offend somebody

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<v Speaker 2>if you have the skill set, if you have worked

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<v Speaker 2>and you've worked your way up, and you are a

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<v Speaker 2>valued member of that company or of whatever it is,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever place you work, asking for more money is not

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<v Speaker 2>something that's going to be offensive. But you do have

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<v Speaker 2>to get a little bit organized, and you do have

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<v Speaker 2>to get a little bit strategic with how you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, there's nothing that would make me more uncomfortable

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<v Speaker 1>than going to my boss and asking for more money.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that everybody's on that page. It's never

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<v Speaker 1>a comfortable conversation, but it's definitely something that you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>be afraid to do. If you really think you're worth it,

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<v Speaker 1>and you've said that, you think you can go somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>else and get more money, not even you think you said,

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<v Speaker 1>I know I can go somewhere else. Obviously you like

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<v Speaker 1>your job and you'd rather stay. I think you've got

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to lose. You one hundred percent need to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to approach your boss. And you're friends with her,

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<v Speaker 1>so you should be able to approach her. But you

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<v Speaker 1>need to approach her not as a friend, as an

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<v Speaker 1>employee and an employer relationship. What you need to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's different for me because forever I have worked

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<v Speaker 1>in the medical industry and we have a of criteria

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<v Speaker 1>for every category. If you can meet the criteria, you

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<v Speaker 1>go to your employer, your boss, and you say, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I have ticked off every box, which means I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>this next category, which means I get to pay rice.

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<v Speaker 1>You just got to be able to prove you can

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<v Speaker 1>do it. I would suggest doing the same thing. You

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<v Speaker 1>probably don't have that kind of contract, but if you

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<v Speaker 1>write down all the lists you're doing and showing that

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<v Speaker 1>you're in a higher role than you're being paid, they

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<v Speaker 1>can't really say no. Well they can, but if they

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<v Speaker 1>do say no, you can leave and go somewhere else.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just that you want to stay there. You're happy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would say that I would set up a

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<v Speaker 1>meeting with my boss, and I'd be like, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>am doing this, this, this, this, and this, which I

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<v Speaker 1>think is above my pay grade. And I really really

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to leave here because I love you guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I love you, I love the job, I love my colleagues.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there room to move and reassess my pay You're

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<v Speaker 1>just asking the question. She's either going to say yes,

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<v Speaker 1>let's look at that, or she's going to say no.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you just have to be armed with what

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<v Speaker 1>you're willing to do if the answer is no, Are

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<v Speaker 1>you actually willing to leave if the answer is no,

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<v Speaker 1>or are you willing to stay and continue your job?

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<v Speaker 1>So I would decide within yourself what you will do

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<v Speaker 1>with the answer is no before you go in there.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with everything you've said, Britt, and I think

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<v Speaker 2>the first thing I want to say on this is

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<v Speaker 2>going back to the first point where I said asking

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<v Speaker 2>for a pay rise is scary. So many things are

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<v Speaker 2>scary until you do them more times and then you

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<v Speaker 2>become more comfortable with it. As a small business owner,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to kind of tell you how I have

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<v Speaker 2>in the past asked for pay rises and also when

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<v Speaker 2>employees have come to me, how I like them to

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<v Speaker 2>come to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So so have you Have you had people come to

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<v Speaker 1>you before and saying hey, I want more money absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>makes me uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, And almost all of them I've given more money to.

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<v Speaker 2>It depends on what the conversation has been, It depends

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<v Speaker 2>on what their role is. But almost every single one

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<v Speaker 2>who has asked for a pay rise has received it.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to ask you after this pay me off.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's because, Okay, a lot of my staff have

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<v Speaker 2>been with me for many, many years and they've grown

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<v Speaker 2>with the company. And sometimes I think when you have

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<v Speaker 2>someone who grows with your company, their skill sets grow,

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<v Speaker 2>you have to annually assess what their role is. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's often what can be lacking in small businesses is

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<v Speaker 2>sitting down and having like a review with your employer.

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<v Speaker 2>So you sit down, you have a formal review where

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<v Speaker 2>they say, I love that you're doing this, this and this,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you can work on X, Y and Z,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is the normal setting where you would say

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<v Speaker 2>and put forward your case for a pay rise. The

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<v Speaker 2>problem with some small businesses, especially I think things like

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<v Speaker 2>hospitality retail, is that they don't always have the same

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<v Speaker 2>formal review processes. So I would say go to your boss,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's you know, face to face or by email

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<v Speaker 2>or by you can do it by text, but that's

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<v Speaker 2>probably the least professional way, and just say I would

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<v Speaker 2>really love to schedule a time to have a meeting

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<v Speaker 2>with you to talk about pay review, so they know

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what it is that they're going into that meeting discussing.

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<v Speaker 2>And after that, once you set your date, you then

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<v Speaker 2>put together all of your information. Put together all the

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<v Speaker 2>things that you're doing in your job, in your role,

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<v Speaker 2>like Britz said, put together what other companies are paying

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<v Speaker 2>employees that do the similar job to you. Put together

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<v Speaker 2>what you should be paid based on what your experiences,

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<v Speaker 2>what your education levels are, and then you can set

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<v Speaker 2>forward a really great case and be like, exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>Brit said, I love working here. I think I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>really valuable member to this team. This is what we

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<v Speaker 2>have achieved since I've been here, this is what I've

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<v Speaker 2>contributed to the company, and this is why I think

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<v Speaker 2>I deserve a five percent or whatever it is. I

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<v Speaker 2>think you go in there with an idea of what

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<v Speaker 2>you want as a percentage increase and ask for it.

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<v Speaker 1>The best thing you can do is going armed with information.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to know what you want, and you

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<v Speaker 1>have to know why you want it, and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to know what other people getting paid in the same job.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can cover all those categories, there's not really

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<v Speaker 1>room for an argument. So go in, think about it,

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<v Speaker 1>write it down, learn it, be confident, go in address

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<v Speaker 1>it in a respectful manner. Make sure you know what

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<v Speaker 1>your decision is going to be depending on her answer.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think you need to have it in your

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<v Speaker 2>head that you're going to leave, Like, for example, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're really happy with your job, if you love or

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<v Speaker 2>you work, and the only thing it's a consideration at

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<v Speaker 2>the moment is pay and you have this conversation and

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<v Speaker 2>then they're like, sorry, we're not going to pay you anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>You may make the decision to leave down the track,

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<v Speaker 2>but I don't think you have to walk in there

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<v Speaker 2>with this mentality of like, if you don't pay me

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<v Speaker 2>more money, I'm quitting. The reality is is that if

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<v Speaker 2>they don't meet you at all, if there's no wiggle room,

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<v Speaker 2>you probably will end up becoming a bit resentful and

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<v Speaker 2>wanting to leave anyway because you will feel like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I put forward the best case, I'm not valued here

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to work somewhere where I am valued.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody wants to feel valued where they work, and one

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<v Speaker 2>of the best ways of feeling valued, not the only way,

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<v Speaker 2>but a very important way is financially. The only other

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<v Speaker 2>thing I want to say on this is maybe the

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<v Speaker 2>business isn't in a situation where they're able to give

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<v Speaker 2>pay rises because of financial constraints. COVID Hospitality, Like, there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many reasons why a business may not be able

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<v Speaker 2>to give you a pay rise right now. So I think, like,

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that you have a full conversation around it.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they say no now, and that's your boss's

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<v Speaker 2>reply is like, no, you're not getting a pay rise

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<v Speaker 2>at the moment, find out why and what you can

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<v Speaker 2>do to work towards a pay rise.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is also why I said, just know what

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<v Speaker 1>you think you want to do in your mind, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's not to go into your boss and if she

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<v Speaker 1>says no, say cool, I'm quitting. That's not it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't tell her. If it's a no, it's hitting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's more fucking it out, bit flip a table on

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<v Speaker 1>your way. It's more so that you know in your head, Okay, cool.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm not going to be met with what I

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<v Speaker 1>need and what I think I deserve and the answer

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<v Speaker 1>is no, then I know in myself I can start

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<v Speaker 1>to look for another job totally.

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<v Speaker 2>And the most important thing for anybody in the workplace

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<v Speaker 2>is nobody is going to advocate for you the way

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<v Speaker 2>that you need.

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<v Speaker 1>To advocate for yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>If you deserve a pay rise, you have to ask

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<v Speaker 2>for it because very few employees, very few workplaces are

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<v Speaker 2>just fucking given out pay rises, Willy. Nearly everyone wants

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<v Speaker 2>to hold onto their bottom dollar. Everyone wants to run

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<v Speaker 2>their business as efficiently as possible. And you know, even

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<v Speaker 2>if your business or company does offer you a pay rise,

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<v Speaker 2>because you're deserving of one, you can always ask for more.

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<v Speaker 1>The only other thing I would suggest from and this

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<v Speaker 1>is just from experience, is to try and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>there is a pay per trayal of things. So even

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<v Speaker 1>if you do go and have a verbal conversation, just say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to shoot you through an email just

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<v Speaker 1>to reconfirm what we spoke about. That is my suggestion

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<v Speaker 1>as well, because there's nothing more important than if you

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<v Speaker 1>need to go. If you do decide to stay, and

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<v Speaker 1>she says no, and in another year's time you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go back, you can say, look like, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>the first time I've approached you. But if everything's just

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<v Speaker 1>in a verbal conversation, it's a lot harder to prove

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<v Speaker 1>these things. I just it just saves your ass.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally, especially if they say, oh, if you work towards

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<v Speaker 2>these things, we'll give you a pay rise.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you're like, look, I did ticked it all off. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyway, I feel like that that's our that's.

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<v Speaker 1>My life advice. Good.

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<v Speaker 3>Everybody needs to ask for what they.

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<v Speaker 1>Want in life.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very, very important and it can be scary, but

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<v Speaker 2>it also is very rewarding.

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<v Speaker 1>Question number two.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, ladies, I have heard you answer this question

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<v Speaker 2>in other ways before. However, I think my predicament is

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<v Speaker 2>slightly different. My best friends and my closest girlfriend hate

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<v Speaker 2>my boyfriend now uft. Yeah, And this is interesting because

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<v Speaker 2>we have answered this question before where it's been like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like my friend's boyfriend, but never my friends

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<v Speaker 2>hate my boyfriend. Okay, so she goes on my friends

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<v Speaker 2>hate my boyfriend. At the beginning, when we first started dating,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a bit of a dick to me. We

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<v Speaker 2>had plenty of fights and it was a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of a rocky start. He never cheated on me, he

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<v Speaker 2>never did anything that we couldn't overcome. However, now we're

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<v Speaker 2>in a really, really good place and I really want

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<v Speaker 2>my friends to be able to see the guy that

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<v Speaker 2>I see. Unfortunately, they won't give him a chance, and

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<v Speaker 2>it seems like we're never going to get to a

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<v Speaker 2>place where we can all be friends. What can I

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<v Speaker 2>do to create a little bit more peace and to

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<v Speaker 2>make my friends like my boyfriend break up?

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<v Speaker 1>Not joking dogs, get a new one, Yeah, get a

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<v Speaker 1>new one. Thank you. Next. This is really tough, and

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<v Speaker 1>it immediately takes me back to this thought of I've

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<v Speaker 1>done it in the past, Laura, You've done in the past.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just human nature. Everyone is guilty of it. When

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<v Speaker 1>you have an argument or something negative happens in a relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk to your friends and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to vent about it. You want to go and say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this happened, can you like? It's always like you want

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<v Speaker 1>a validation. Can you believe he did that? And then

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh my god, he should never have done that.

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<v Speaker 1>Then you have this whole little conversation. You very rarely

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<v Speaker 1>go to your friends and say he is the most

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<v Speaker 1>amazing guy. He has done everything for me. He brought

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<v Speaker 1>me tea in bed last night. Like, you just don't

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<v Speaker 1>say those little things because it's not something you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like you need to overly share. And like sometimes you

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<v Speaker 1>do at the start of a relationship. Of course, like

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<v Speaker 1>I used to a lure all the cute things that

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan did, But it's just human nature to go and

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<v Speaker 1>complain and want to vent and get counseling from your

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<v Speaker 1>friends on this kind of thing. What you do need

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<v Speaker 1>to be really careful of and hyper aware of is

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<v Speaker 1>that you don't feel like you're always just complaining about

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<v Speaker 1>your partner to your friends. I mean, unless he's just

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<v Speaker 1>a dig all the time, then sure, maybe you need

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<v Speaker 1>to come to the realization that he's a dig all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. There's a reason why your friends don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're only ever saying the negative things, of course

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<v Speaker 1>your friends are gonna get this idea. We're like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my god, every second week, he's doing something horrible, she's

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<v Speaker 1>so upset all the time, and of course that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to implant on them. It's gonna be and they're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like him, and that's normal. I've got friends like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But then when I've brought it up with my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, yeah, but I don't ever tell you the

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff, And this is the problem. What you can

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<v Speaker 1>actually do about that is it's really really tough. I

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<v Speaker 1>think what you need to do is have a sit

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<v Speaker 1>down with your friends if they have said to you,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know, if it's very openly like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>like your partner, you need to sit down and ask why.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to have a little bit of an intervention

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<v Speaker 1>and say, look at you've seen something I don't or

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<v Speaker 1>find out the reason, find out where this dislike, this disdaining,

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<v Speaker 1>this hate, whatever it is, find out where it has

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<v Speaker 1>come from. Maybe you can dispel some of these myths.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can correct them on some of the assumptions

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<v Speaker 1>that they've made. But ultimately, if they just don't like

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<v Speaker 1>your partner, I think you just need to have a

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<v Speaker 1>level of separation. I think you just need to say cool,

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we just don't hang out as a group anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>But I need you to know that I really love him,

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<v Speaker 1>and I need you guys on my team on that,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think if you're just really honest with your friends,

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<v Speaker 1>I really love my partner. I would love for you

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<v Speaker 1>guys to love him. But if you do, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>not all hang out in a group situation, and then

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you can work towards it. But it's a really

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<v Speaker 1>sticky situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I agree mostly, I think I can

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<v Speaker 2>see you, mate.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, like, what do I agree it?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? I think the big part of what you're talking about, Bree,

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<v Speaker 2>is like boundaries. We all need to have boundaries in

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<v Speaker 2>our relations There was a word for it, no, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's true. Like if you are lacking in boundaries in

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<v Speaker 2>that you go and you tell every single thing that

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<v Speaker 2>happens in your relationship to your friends, then you are

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<v Speaker 2>painting a one sided picture. And then the problem is

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<v Speaker 2>is like the repair, Like when you get home from

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<v Speaker 2>having a fight with your partner and your partner buys

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<v Speaker 2>your flowers or does all these nice things. Your friends

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<v Speaker 2>don't see that that's not an assumed thing. So unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>your relationship is better, it's repaired, but your friends are

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<v Speaker 2>still living in a capsule of what's just happened and

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<v Speaker 2>of what you've told them. So obviously, like that is

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<v Speaker 2>and creates a huge disparity and a reason why so

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<v Speaker 2>many people can get into these situations where their friends

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<v Speaker 2>can cause these situations where you know, there's a rift

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<v Speaker 2>between their friend and their boyfriends. I think there's more

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<v Speaker 2>sides to this as well. I do think you need,

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<v Speaker 2>like brit said, have a really honest conversation with your friends,

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<v Speaker 2>sit down and ask them for reasons. You know, what

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<v Speaker 2>is it that he's done, What is it that he's said,

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the picture that I painted, or is it

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<v Speaker 2>the person that you have met, like to explain a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more context around why you dislike him so much.

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<v Speaker 2>There could be the possibility that you are blinded by

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<v Speaker 2>the love and the orgasms and all of the great things.

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<v Speaker 2>He could be a dick, like there is a chance

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<v Speaker 2>that that's a possibility as well. And I think love

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<v Speaker 2>is blind. This is true, and your friends mostly want

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<v Speaker 2>the best for you, and sometimes our friends can see

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<v Speaker 2>things that we can't see. Does that mean that you

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<v Speaker 2>should throw the relationship in the bin? No, But I

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<v Speaker 2>think sometimes it means there needs to be a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more context around those conversations with friends. If they

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<v Speaker 2>genuinely are friends who love you and support you and

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<v Speaker 2>aren't just friends who flip when something good is happening

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<v Speaker 2>in your life and try to function up for you.

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<v Speaker 2>If they're genuinely great peace people who want the best

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<v Speaker 2>for you. I think sometimes we have to listen to

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening. And the other part of that is if

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<v Speaker 2>everything is fine, if your relationship is genuinely great, if

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<v Speaker 2>you've gotten to a place where you think, no, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, all the dramas we have in the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>we're just teething problems. We are awesome now. I do

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<v Speaker 2>honestly think that the relationship between your friends and him

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<v Speaker 2>will catch up. Like I said, they're living in this

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<v Speaker 2>capsule from six months ago or five months ago. The

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<v Speaker 2>more that you know he proves, the more that you

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<v Speaker 2>keep on giving them that positive validation around your relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>the more that you when you hang out with him,

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<v Speaker 2>you're like, oh, this happened, and we're really great and

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<v Speaker 2>we're really happy. Over time, that shifts the perception that

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<v Speaker 2>you originally painted or that he originally painted by his actions.

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<v Speaker 1>Ultimately, you can't force anybody to like anybody. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>sit down and say you will like him. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>not going to happen, So all you can do is

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<v Speaker 1>sit down, figure out why, where it comes from, and

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<v Speaker 1>map out what you can do from it. From there,

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<v Speaker 1>But one hundred percent what Laura said is start to

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<v Speaker 1>just share with them some of the great things that

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<v Speaker 1>he does for you, the good times, the happy times,

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<v Speaker 1>and why you love him so much, and it might

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<v Speaker 1>slowly start to shift without them feeling like you're putting

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on them to like him.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also think don't try and do group situations,

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<v Speaker 2>Like if you're in a period right now where your

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriends as a collective don't like him, just pit them

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<v Speaker 2>off one by one, go for like a dinner with

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<v Speaker 2>one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds like you want to like it's fird of them,

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<v Speaker 1>one point, win the mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Just don't try and win them over as a group,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's super overwhelming for your partner to then walk

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<v Speaker 2>into the situation where he feels like, oh fuck, these

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<v Speaker 2>five chicks hate me. Like, just go to the beach

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<v Speaker 2>with one of them, go to the movies with one

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<v Speaker 2>of them, go for dinner with one of them. And

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<v Speaker 2>I think in smaller settings we're able to be a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit more vulnerable, a little bit more honest and

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<v Speaker 2>you can allow for like a bit more conversation and communication,

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<v Speaker 2>and by doing that, maybe then they will start to

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<v Speaker 2>see the side of him that you really love and

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<v Speaker 2>see you guys as a couple and it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>you verse them, which kind of can be set up

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<v Speaker 2>when you do these big group settings. Have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>been in a situation where your friends haven't liked your boyfriend?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the sociopath, the one that was cheating on me

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<v Speaker 1>for like two years. They didn't like him. And did

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<v Speaker 1>they tell you they didn't like him? No, they didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I could pick up that he wasn't their favorite human.

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<v Speaker 1>But once it all came out two years later, so

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<v Speaker 1>after the fact, my family, my friends, everyone was like,

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<v Speaker 1>never really liked him. I could always sense he was

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<v Speaker 1>a bad egg, and I was like, why don't you

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<v Speaker 1>tell me? They said, your happiness is our happiness, and

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<v Speaker 1>they just wanted they could see that I was happy,

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<v Speaker 1>even though I was fake happy, Like I was so

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<v Speaker 1>distraught throughout that whole relationship, but I just put on

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<v Speaker 1>a brave face and they're like, we didn't want to

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<v Speaker 1>burst your bubble. I wish they were more honest with me,

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<v Speaker 1>but I wish they did it that's because that was

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<v Speaker 1>an extreme situation. They all thought he was cheating on me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I wish they probably brought it to me up

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<v Speaker 1>my attention, But hindsight's a wonderful thing. If they actually

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<v Speaker 1>came to me and said, hey, with his cheating on you,

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<v Speaker 1>I probably would have said, no fucking way, you're starting stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>and I would have been defensive. So it's a really

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<v Speaker 1>really tricky situation.

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<v Speaker 3>Minded by the orgasm bubble.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one percent, And that's a thing. The orgasm bubble

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<v Speaker 1>is a thing. Really, Yes, I mean I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone hated your X too.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, if you're new to this podcast and you haven't

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<v Speaker 2>been listening for long, the episode that Britt is talking

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<v Speaker 2>about is episode three. She dated a sociopath. Literally, she

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<v Speaker 2>dated a guy who had a double life. And I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like everybody who has listened to the podcast for

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<v Speaker 2>any length of time knows about it. But if you're new,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to go back and listen to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I've definitely been in this situation before where I've had

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<v Speaker 2>my friends hate my boyfriend. And that's why I say, sometimes,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you might think that your relationship is in

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<v Speaker 2>a really good spot, but they might be seeing things

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<v Speaker 2>that you can't say it's fair news. Yeah, they might

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<v Speaker 2>know something, or sometimes we really can be blinded by

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening around us and in our relationships, and mostly

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<v Speaker 2>our friends and our family want the best for us.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think it comes down to you to really judge.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you paint that picture? Is it kind of your

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<v Speaker 2>fault that they hate him? Or do they hate him

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<v Speaker 2>for other reasons? And if so, you might need a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of time to unpack what that is. But

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<v Speaker 2>communication is the most important thing, and I think having

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<v Speaker 2>a really honest conversation with your girlfriends is the first

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<v Speaker 2>place to start.

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<v Speaker 1>Question number three.

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<v Speaker 2>Question number three, I have a lot of feelings about

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<v Speaker 2>question number three.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I a bad feminist? I would say that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all for equality and rethinking the gender roles, but I

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<v Speaker 1>hit a mental roadblock yesterday. My boyfriend and I recently

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<v Speaker 1>graduated from the same degree. He decided to pursue an

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<v Speaker 1>entrepreneurial career. However, he doesn't make any money yet and

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<v Speaker 1>it seems also not in the near future. What is

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<v Speaker 1>important to know is that he is also quite a

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<v Speaker 1>free spirit and he sleeps in until noon, So I

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<v Speaker 1>can't even say that he is working his ass off.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot even say he's out there giving it a go.

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<v Speaker 1>I now got a job offer which will be very

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<v Speaker 1>well paid. It will be a stressful job with forty

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<v Speaker 1>plus hours, where most of the colleagues started around seven

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<v Speaker 1>and worked till very late. Yesterday, after I said that

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<v Speaker 1>I am so happy to finally earn some money and

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<v Speaker 1>not rethink every single purchase four times, my boyfriend suggested

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<v Speaker 1>that we should move into a big, fancy flat, with

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<v Speaker 1>him paying six hundred euros and me paying fourteen hundred euros,

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<v Speaker 1>so more than double him. It would be a very

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<v Speaker 1>big chunk of money, even for my salary. Also just

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<v Speaker 1>interrupting here, I love it. We've got someone from Europe.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like talking about euros. I realized that I have

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<v Speaker 1>an inherent problem with paying far more rent than my partner,

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<v Speaker 1>especially since we have the same degree and in my eyes,

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<v Speaker 1>the same chance as an opportunity to earn good money.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of think that I would feel different if

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<v Speaker 1>he was just earning less money but doing something really

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<v Speaker 1>passionately or working really hard, but he doesn't. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you guys think of this situation? Would you be fine

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<v Speaker 1>with him not working much and still asking me to

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<v Speaker 1>pay more. I just want to jump in here real

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<v Speaker 1>quick before we get into this and say it is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely irrelevant who earns more money in a relationship. Personally,

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<v Speaker 1>I have been in a relationship where I have been

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<v Speaker 1>the breadwinner and I have earned more, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>been in a relationship where I earned far, far less.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing that I really want to drive home here

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<v Speaker 1>is it's about effort and motivation and what you're putting

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<v Speaker 1>into the relationship. If you're not earning much money, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're working really hard and you're doing something you're passionate about, brilliant,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all you need to do. Especially if I was

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<v Speaker 1>in a relationship if my partner was earning less than me,

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't care less if I knew they were getting

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<v Speaker 1>up every day doing what they love and really really

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<v Speaker 1>trying hard. But I just want to really push that

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<v Speaker 1>point at the start before we jump into this. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I know what your opinion is anyway, Laura, but

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<v Speaker 1>because I would hate for anyone to think that we

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<v Speaker 1>feel like money is the motivating factor, because it's absolutely not.

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<v Speaker 1>Motivation is the motivating factor. The very first line where

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<v Speaker 1>you said, am I a bad feminist. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>that I'm all for equality and rethinking the gender roles,

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<v Speaker 1>but I hit a mental roadblock yesterday. The reason why

0:28:43.520 --> 0:28:46.959
<v Speaker 1>you hit a mental roadblock is because this is not equality.

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<v Speaker 1>Women were not burning their bras so that your boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>consider around. I don't even wear a bra anymore, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It lows my mind that somehow we have been conditioned

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<v Speaker 2>to think that, you know, earning more money being the

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<v Speaker 2>bread winner in the house means like that's where the

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<v Speaker 2>equality is. The reality is back in the day, women

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<v Speaker 2>not being recognized for the unpaid labor that they were

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<v Speaker 2>doing every day, the endless hours of housework and cleaning

0:29:12.960 --> 0:29:16.120
<v Speaker 2>and raising children and organizing birthday parties and going and

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<v Speaker 2>picking up shopping. Your boyfriend's not doing that. He's sleeping

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 2>till noon. So this is not equality. I would hate

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:25.360
<v Speaker 2>for anybody to get into a situation where their partner

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<v Speaker 2>rives on their hard work and dresses it up as Oh,

0:29:29.520 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 2>it's okay for gender roles to be reversed, because women

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:35.680
<v Speaker 2>are not laying around the house not doing anything. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not just being this free spirited version of ourselves whilst

0:29:39.040 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 2>our partners go out and hustle hard and then live

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<v Speaker 2>off their money. It made me so mad when I

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<v Speaker 2>read the start of this, so I understand why you

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<v Speaker 2>had this period of like, hold on, this doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>right to me, and it's because it's not right.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 3>We have spoken on this podcast before about when you have.

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<v Speaker 2>Different incomes to your partner, how doing fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 2>monetarily down the.

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<v Speaker 1>Middle is not fair or right.

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:04.200
<v Speaker 2>When you are in a relationship and your partner earns

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<v Speaker 2>vastly more than you, regardless of gender, that you should

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<v Speaker 2>pay percentage wise are more even split? That also comes

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<v Speaker 2>with conversation if your partner is choosing not to earn money,

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<v Speaker 2>if your partner is choosing not to contribute, what else

0:30:17.680 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 2>are they contributing to the relationship? Are they cooking dinner

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<v Speaker 2>every night? Are they cleaning? Are they doing other things

0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:27.000
<v Speaker 2>in your relationship that add value that allow you to

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<v Speaker 2>do the work that you do, in which case totally fair.

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<v Speaker 2>If they are just mooching off you, then I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's some much bigger problems in your relationship. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure as shit would not be wasting all of the

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<v Speaker 2>money that you could be putting into a savings account

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<v Speaker 2>for yourself to set yourself up for a future, to

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<v Speaker 2>pay more on rent to live in a house. That

0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>means that you're then financially stretched, just so that he

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<v Speaker 2>can continue to float around and figure out what it

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<v Speaker 2>is he wants to do with himself.

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<v Speaker 1>Cool, so we've answered that question. I'm like, so so

0:31:00.560 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>everything she said, I'm like, okay, there's my point. Ah, yep,

0:31:03.080 --> 0:31:07.040
<v Speaker 1>I've got nuh yep. Nonhing else to say. No, I

0:31:07.040 --> 0:31:09.840
<v Speaker 1>think there's more, Like no, I do have more. I'm okay, right, Sorry.

0:31:09.880 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, what about this? You just said everything

0:31:12.600 --> 0:31:14.239
<v Speaker 1>that I was thinking, and every next thought I had

0:31:14.280 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>you said it as well. I couldn't agree more. The

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<v Speaker 1>thing that really gets me is the expectation that now

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<v Speaker 1>you earn more money, that will upgrade our house. Like

0:31:22.040 --> 0:31:24.080
<v Speaker 1>that's the bit that gets me. It'd be very different

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<v Speaker 1>if he never said anything and you were like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, like we could afford a nice place now.

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:30.760
<v Speaker 1>The idea was yours. There was no expectations, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was grateful for it. I don't like the assumption of

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<v Speaker 1>I can continue to sleep until midday and stay at

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<v Speaker 1>home while you earn the money, and I can benefit

0:31:38.480 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 1>from this lifestyle. I am all for equality, and I

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent think that, like Laura mentioned that we

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<v Speaker 1>have spoken about before, when it comes to finances, if

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<v Speaker 1>both people are working equally as hard, but one person

0:31:50.000 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>male or female, it's irrelevant one person's earning significantly more.

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<v Speaker 1>Then yes, if they want a specific lifestyle, they can't

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<v Speaker 1>expect it to be fifty to fifty. But it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>work in reverse. I would be more than happy if

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<v Speaker 1>I was with somebody that was working their butt off

0:32:04.160 --> 0:32:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and I earned twice as more. I would be happy

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:08.719
<v Speaker 1>to be paying for more. If he was doing what

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<v Speaker 1>he wanted to do and he was passionate about it

0:32:10.560 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 1>and he was really putting the effort in. That's so fine.

0:32:13.400 --> 0:32:15.560
<v Speaker 1>The thing that gets me is and I couldn't do it.

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I take my hat off to you, but I could

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<v Speaker 1>not be with someone that had no work ethic, no motivation,

0:32:20.720 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>and slept until midday. For me, that's a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a red flag. And some people are fine with it,

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>but I would not be comfortable. What I would do

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<v Speaker 1>if you absolutely in love and want to say in

0:32:29.520 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>that relationship, that's great. But what I would say to

0:32:31.680 --> 0:32:34.440
<v Speaker 1>him if you're not happy with it is I think

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<v Speaker 1>we just make good use of this situation. We stay

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<v Speaker 1>where we are, and I'm just going to put this

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<v Speaker 1>away and save it. And it may you could say,

0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.360
<v Speaker 1>you might not end up with him. Who knows. You

0:32:42.360 --> 0:32:43.920
<v Speaker 1>could say, I'm just gonna start to put it away.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can buy a house or something down the track.

0:32:46.440 --> 0:32:49.320
<v Speaker 1>But ultimately those funds are yours. You are earning them

0:32:49.840 --> 0:32:52.480
<v Speaker 1>until he goes out to pull his weight. I don't

0:32:52.520 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 1>think you owe him anything. I've calmed down of it now.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh thank god, I see the sand coming out of

0:32:58.920 --> 0:32:59.280
<v Speaker 1>your ears.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like the other part that I want to touch

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<v Speaker 2>on quickly is this idea about entrepreneurship, right Like, I

0:33:06.560 --> 0:33:09.479
<v Speaker 2>don't want anyone to think that I'm undervaluing what this

0:33:09.640 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 2>guy's ambitions are, because I think there is nothing sexier

0:33:14.400 --> 0:33:17.400
<v Speaker 2>or more inspiring than somebody who has an entrepreneurial brain.

0:33:17.800 --> 0:33:20.360
<v Speaker 3>But I do not know one. I do not know

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<v Speaker 3>one entrepreneur who sleeps until midday.

0:33:23.000 --> 0:33:23.680
<v Speaker 1>Not one.

0:33:23.800 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 3>They are working their.

0:33:25.160 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Asses off because they have to have to to start

0:33:27.960 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 2>a business, to start a new idea, to really get

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:35.080
<v Speaker 2>that endeavor off the ground, you work your butt off.

0:33:35.120 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 2>And in that case, I would fully understand the split

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<v Speaker 2>between incomes and how you guys work. But the other

0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.840
<v Speaker 2>part of this is you're working so hard to allow

0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>your partner to have the luxury of relaxation and time.

0:33:49.720 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 2>But not only just relaxation as in he gets to

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<v Speaker 2>sleep in all day, but as in like he is

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<v Speaker 2>not being forced to make decisions around his career.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a luxury buffer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got this buffer where he's like, oh, maybe

0:34:02.160 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 2>i'll try this, Maybe I'll try this, because you're the.

0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:06.680
<v Speaker 3>One doing all the hard work.

0:34:06.720 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, there's no urgency in it, is there? Because he

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:10.600
<v Speaker 1>comes home to a roof over his head and he

0:34:10.640 --> 0:34:12.919
<v Speaker 1>comes if you weren't there, what would he do? Ask

0:34:12.960 --> 0:34:15.640
<v Speaker 1>yourself that if you weren't there, can he pay the rent?

0:34:16.080 --> 0:34:18.279
<v Speaker 1>Can he put food on the table? Or is he

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<v Speaker 1>relying on you that extremely.

0:34:20.840 --> 0:34:23.400
<v Speaker 3>And that's the reality of it, right, Like that is

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:24.279
<v Speaker 3>not equality.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that, like I said at the beginning,

0:34:26.440 --> 0:34:28.440
<v Speaker 2>that's why this got me so in the go when

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.920
<v Speaker 2>I first read this, And I think I've probably experienced

0:34:30.920 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 2>something similar where one of my earlier relationships, my ex

0:34:34.440 --> 0:34:36.880
<v Speaker 2>was very much like, I don't mind if you're the breadwinner.

0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:39.560
<v Speaker 2>But at the time I didn't realize that me being

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<v Speaker 2>the breadwinner just allowed him to be the struggling artist,

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 2>and it meant that I struggled as well because I

0:34:45.680 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 2>was then paying for two people. But I kind of

0:34:48.000 --> 0:34:48.879
<v Speaker 2>at the time was like.

0:34:49.040 --> 0:34:51.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love you, I'll do it city whatever I'm

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:52.800
<v Speaker 1>like making the money.

0:34:52.920 --> 0:34:55.680
<v Speaker 2>No, it wasn't fair, and it would be a very

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:57.960
<v Speaker 2>different thing if you had kids and if he was

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<v Speaker 2>at home raising the children and doing all or the

0:35:00.719 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 2>unpaid household labor. Like I said, but that's just not

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.520
<v Speaker 2>the case. And I think that you have every right

0:35:06.600 --> 0:35:09.160
<v Speaker 2>to feel a little bit taken advantage of in this situation.

0:35:09.360 --> 0:35:12.279
<v Speaker 2>And I really think something that we've touched on on

0:35:12.320 --> 0:35:14.920
<v Speaker 2>a finance podcast we did ages ago, but it is

0:35:15.040 --> 0:35:18.400
<v Speaker 2>so important, especially as a woman, to put savings away.

0:35:18.480 --> 0:35:21.920
<v Speaker 2>It's so important to have your own financial stability and

0:35:22.000 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 2>to make sure that you are taking care of your

0:35:24.719 --> 0:35:27.960
<v Speaker 2>one financial literacy and two financial future that is an

0:35:28.000 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 2>independent future from your partner. And like brit said, I

0:35:31.000 --> 0:35:34.760
<v Speaker 2>cannot recommend putting that money towards savings and not towards rental.

0:35:35.840 --> 0:35:37.839
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you can even have a sit down with him

0:35:37.880 --> 0:35:39.759
<v Speaker 1>and talk about it. Maybe you can say, hey, let's

0:35:39.760 --> 0:35:41.840
<v Speaker 1>map out our goals let's where are we going to

0:35:41.880 --> 0:35:43.760
<v Speaker 1>be in a year, Like, let's try and figure this out,

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:46.879
<v Speaker 1>because if we can both accumulate X amount of money

0:35:46.880 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a week and put that away, and obviously the X

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.200
<v Speaker 1>amount of money that you're suggesting to him is more

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:53.319
<v Speaker 1>than he earns. Now it's gonna involve him getting a job.

0:35:53.960 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>But some people are visual people, and I've done this

0:35:56.400 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>in the past. Maybe you can say, look what we

0:35:59.160 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 1>could be putting away one year if we are both

0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:05.160
<v Speaker 1>bringing this much home a week once. Sometimes once people

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>can see it, they can get a little bit more

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:09.160
<v Speaker 1>drive and a little bit motivation. So maybe your partner

0:36:09.320 --> 0:36:11.600
<v Speaker 1>is not as independent and fiercely is driven as you.

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:13.279
<v Speaker 1>Maybe he needs a little bit of a prompt But

0:36:13.360 --> 0:36:14.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you have to go to him and

0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:17.360
<v Speaker 1>say you're not pulling your weight. I'm not doing that, Like,

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to make it an aggressive conversation. But

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>I think you can definitely sit down and see if

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:23.399
<v Speaker 1>he does have any motivation to earn more in the year,

0:36:23.400 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 1>if he's got motivation to actually start this career, to

0:36:27.120 --> 0:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>get up and work nine to five, and maybe you

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 1>can say, hey, you could send him video links. There

0:36:31.360 --> 0:36:33.919
<v Speaker 1>are so many motivational speakers that are like my day

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:35.920
<v Speaker 1>starts at seven am. Anyone that wants to earn a

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:39.240
<v Speaker 1>business who knows what he needs. But once you've provided

0:36:39.320 --> 0:36:42.239
<v Speaker 1>him all the tools he needs, if he's still not

0:36:42.360 --> 0:36:45.680
<v Speaker 1>being proactive, if he's still sleeping until twelve o'clock and

0:36:45.719 --> 0:36:47.680
<v Speaker 1>he's still expecting you to pay more, maybe you need

0:36:47.719 --> 0:36:50.880
<v Speaker 1>to reconsider where your relationship's going. And I know that

0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>sounds I'm not saying break up with him. I'm absolutely not,

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:57.839
<v Speaker 1>because different relationships work. It's just something to consider if

0:36:57.840 --> 0:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be your future for a long time.

0:37:00.360 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 2>And I guess like as well, I want one hundred

0:37:02.960 --> 0:37:03.640
<v Speaker 2>percent agree.

0:37:03.680 --> 0:37:05.879
<v Speaker 1>I think there is a lot of consideration to happen here.

0:37:06.440 --> 0:37:12.320
<v Speaker 2>But relationships change so much after university, especially relationships that

0:37:12.360 --> 0:37:16.040
<v Speaker 2>are formed in UNI, because careers take place. You don't

0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.600
<v Speaker 2>have the same sort of flexibility. It's not as fun.

0:37:18.640 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 2>You're not going to Unibar every week like the real

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.279
<v Speaker 2>world kind of kicks you in the guts a little bit.

0:37:23.520 --> 0:37:25.560
<v Speaker 1>When you grow up, you change and what you want

0:37:25.640 --> 0:37:26.840
<v Speaker 1>changes totally.

0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:29.800
<v Speaker 2>And there may come a point where maybe he is

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:33.360
<v Speaker 2>quite happy to live that university esque lifestyle far longer

0:37:33.400 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 2>than what you are and that Peter Pan syndrome sets in.

0:37:36.840 --> 0:37:39.759
<v Speaker 2>This could turn into a very big area of resentment

0:37:39.840 --> 0:37:42.440
<v Speaker 2>if it's not something that's mapped out early. And if

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:44.600
<v Speaker 2>you guys kind of don't get on the same page

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:48.360
<v Speaker 2>with this, so communicate, communicate. I'm pretty much this is

0:37:48.360 --> 0:37:51.520
<v Speaker 2>how we answer every question. Talk about your feelings. But

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.520
<v Speaker 2>do not think that you need to continue to contribute

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:56.720
<v Speaker 2>more to allow somebody to contribute less.

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<v Speaker 1>Well said Laura. And also I just want to say

0:38:00.280 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 1>to that person that rode in all the way from Europe,

0:38:02.120 --> 0:38:04.320
<v Speaker 1>that really like makes me feel good that you're listening

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to us in Europe. They are an Australian who is

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:10.759
<v Speaker 1>living in the UK. No they No, they're definitely not,

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:14.279
<v Speaker 1>because a that's the pound, Laura, not Europe. Oh fin.

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<v Speaker 2>Cute though, love that I haven't traveled in a really

0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:19.919
<v Speaker 2>long time now, guys.

0:38:19.560 --> 0:38:21.320
<v Speaker 1>But no, I just love that we've got some listeners

0:38:21.320 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 1>from overseas. So you just shout out to everyone listening

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:24.520
<v Speaker 1>from another country.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, guys, Well, regardless of where you're from, if

0:38:27.400 --> 0:38:29.440
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0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.360
<v Speaker 2>Facebook group which is Life Uncut Discussion Group. There's so

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:41.319
<v Speaker 2>many places where you can bite us if you want

0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:44.800
<v Speaker 2>to continue on the conversation or the discussion group is

0:38:44.840 --> 0:38:47.720
<v Speaker 2>just such a great place to literally talk about anything.

0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:49.960
<v Speaker 1>It's wild. There's so much stuff goes people that want

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:51.880
<v Speaker 1>to choose an outfit to really deep discussion.

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 2>What are the best leggings to buy? I don't know

0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:55.240
<v Speaker 2>what's happening with global warming?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Go on the Facebook group. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>happening there. Don't forget to tell you mum, dad, tell

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<v Speaker 1>you dog, tell your friends, and share the love because

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