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Speaker 1: And Amanda jam Nation.

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Speaker 2: We thought we'd send you to the Rosel interchange this

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Speaker 2: morning to see what was stuffing up yesterday and if

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Speaker 2: today was better. If this is a new road project

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Speaker 2: promised to slash travel time from Western City to the

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Speaker 2: city by twenty minutes yesterday, well it seemed to have backfired.

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Speaker 2: People were stuck in the complex network of tunnels and

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Speaker 2: ramps and unfortunate signage that made people think they were

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Speaker 2: going to have to pay tolls when they didn't. Here

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Speaker 2: to explain what happened yesterday and how hopefully we're finding

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Speaker 2: a way out of it is Howard Collins from Transport,

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Speaker 2: New South Wales.

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Speaker 1: Howard, good morning, good morning to you and great to

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Speaker 1: hear the Jonesy's out on the road testing it. We're

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Speaker 1: keeping an eye on him on the cameras just in

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Speaker 1: case he does any more. From oh hang on, no

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Speaker 1: one said anything about cameras.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jones. How many points have you got left?

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Speaker 1: So, Howard, are you doing well at the moment?

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Speaker 2: Well, I think today was probably an interesting day because

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Speaker 2: a big education campaign seemed to have been launched overnight

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Speaker 2: with the media. People saw how bad it was yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Do you think you were ill prepared. Should we have

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Speaker 2: had people prepared better for what was going to happen?

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Speaker 1: Well, there's always lessons to that, and I take the responsibility,

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Speaker 1: you know, as the new Cornator General that despite our

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Speaker 1: social media despie, the campaigns despired, all those animations and

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Speaker 1: three or four press conferences, I think we do need

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Speaker 1: to recognize that we have to make it even more

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Speaker 1: blindly obvious. And I'm just looking at the camera which

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Speaker 1: people are still turning away from the tunnels, but there

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Speaker 1: is a big sign saying Ana Bridge Via Tunnel, no toll.

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Speaker 1: We've got three or four of those signs overnight. We've

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Speaker 1: repainted the streets so it says to the city, if

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Speaker 1: you're coming from the Iron Cove, we could put Jonesy

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Speaker 1: this way if you like, just to make sure he's

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Speaker 1: going in the right direction. But I do think people

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Speaker 1: are starting today is better, but it does take. My

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Speaker 1: experts in the field tell me it takes a few

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Speaker 1: weeks for people to break habits of a lifetime. Think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I can get this one. If you're coming

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Speaker 1: from Droumine, You're going to save yourself ten minutes, seven

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Speaker 1: sets of traffic lights and it's absolutely free. And then

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Speaker 1: on the evening. My advice if you're going back to

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Speaker 1: Droumine is you're thinking about going over the Anzac Bridge,

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Speaker 1: keeping that left hand lane, keep to sixty and then

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Speaker 1: if you dug down into that tunnel, which is signposted

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Speaker 1: in for Andromine, you'll get through free of charge all

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Speaker 1: the way back up to know iron Co Bridge. There

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Speaker 1: is still queuing. We're seeing some ques now on City Westling.

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Speaker 1: People are coming off the motorway too early. Stay on

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Speaker 1: it if you're coming up from them, for example, and

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Speaker 1: you'll pop out all the way two lanes at the

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Speaker 1: bottom of the Anzac Bridge. But as my real seasons

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Speaker 1: experts say, look how it does take time. And even

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Speaker 1: if you were personally advising people there to go ahead

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Speaker 1: straight because I know I've always gone this way for

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Speaker 1: the last ten years, I'm still going this way. It's

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Speaker 1: a slow way. Yesterday, you know, apologies for people who

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Speaker 1: get caught up in it. All we can to sort

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Speaker 1: of listen to what you know your listeners have said.

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Speaker 1: Plus also even more media from earlier this morning trying

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Speaker 1: to encourage people to use the tunnels.

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Speaker 2: Because someone this morning on our pub tast as you

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Speaker 2: mentioned the City Westlink, they said, it's gone for two

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Speaker 2: lanes down to one. Is that temporary.

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Speaker 1: Well, the important thing is that now we've got this

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Speaker 1: new tunnel and motorway, we've got to make sure that

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Speaker 1: flows freely, and we've only got three lanes to choose.

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Speaker 1: So it gradually filled us from from three lanes to

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Speaker 1: two lanes, and then there is one lane as you

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Speaker 1: turn off Victoria Road onto and that filter us from

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Speaker 1: the right to the two other roads which are coming

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Speaker 1: out of the tunnel. If we get more motorists doing

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Speaker 1: the right thing for locals who are coming from bal Main,

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Speaker 1: we'll find it freer and certainly off peak we're seeing

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Speaker 1: things flow even better than we thought. It's just that

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Speaker 1: peak our time where people are still sticking to the

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Speaker 1: habits of lifetime. And I do think we probably needed

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Speaker 1: to do more to make people not panic that they're

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Speaker 1: going to pay, you know, three or four dollars. They're

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Speaker 1: going to be absolutely free. The problem is with West Connects,

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Speaker 1: it's such a fantastic new tunnel network that people think

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Speaker 1: they're paying for it. This part from mine Co Bridge

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Speaker 1: through into Anzac Bridge is free and the other way around.

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Speaker 1: If you're going out the city going back to Tramne

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Speaker 1: it's free as well.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, thank you and hopefully in the next

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Speaker 2: few days all you're back Jones, it will become clear.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this is Australia's most complex underground roads.

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Speaker 1: Was he.

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Speaker 2: Anything you'd like to ask Howard before we chop you off? Brendan,

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Speaker 2: that's a wonderful piece of instruction, Howard.

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Speaker 1: Thank you mate. We'll keep an eye on you and

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Speaker 1: if you take any more turning, you know, we're just

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Speaker 1: give us a call.

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Speaker 2: All right, thank you. That's transis just just just just

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Speaker 2: just just keep on the download with those cameras, okay.

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Speaker 2: That's Howard Colins Transport from New South Wales Chief Operations Officer. Brendan,

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Speaker 2: where are you? I'm just coming around to that little

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Speaker 2: place that I used to near, you know, north Thrive hour.

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Speaker 1: Can we get the yum chart yum jar?

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Speaker 2: No, thank you, bring back the macas you're not far back,

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Speaker 2: You're not far from the office. Come back, soldier, We've

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Speaker 2: missed you.