Speaker 1: It's in the news today, but it was actually on
Speaker 1: TV Reloaded podcast last week. They're right, Welcome back guys
Speaker 1: to TV Reload. My name's Benjamin Norris and on this
Speaker 1: podcast I go behind the scenes with the biggest players
Speaker 1: in television. I don't like the reality shows that they
Speaker 1: cut with them and into their life.
Speaker 2: I don't like them at all.
Speaker 1: But I've also got to go behind the scenes with writers.
Speaker 1: The truth is, when I started writing it, it wasn't
Speaker 1: had nothing to do with the news and casting agents
Speaker 1: they know from a casting point of view what they need,
Speaker 1: and editors because that's what we do as editors where storytellers,
Speaker 1: not to forget some incredible executive producers who are making
Speaker 1: some of the best TV in Australia. We thought he'd
Speaker 1: be too just self aware.
Speaker 3: Well, in fact, exactly the opposite was true and he
Speaker 3: became the biggest character in the show.
Speaker 1: So thanks for joining me each week and I hope
Speaker 1: the podcast continues to give you real insight into the
Speaker 1: magic of television today. On the podcast, I have Juicy
Speaker 1: Dave from Australian survivors Blood Versus Water, currently on Network
Speaker 1: ten as a project manager at a construction firm Dave
Speaker 1: knew he would be very strategic. You can the game
Speaker 1: of Australian Survivor. He certainly proved that by getting a
Speaker 1: layer of the land, being flexible and making some tough,
Speaker 1: ruthless calls that he was a force to be reckoned with. However,
Speaker 1: he has become the latest castaway to be booted from
Speaker 1: the competition, and I would say Dave has been left
Speaker 1: with a bit of a sour taste in his mouth,
Speaker 1: feeling like he should still be in the competition. Dave
Speaker 1: was a brilliant player and famously will be remembered for
Speaker 1: his juicy moves, hence the nickname Juicy Dave. Today we'll
Speaker 1: talk about his emotions post game, how he felt after
Speaker 1: his daughter was booted, if he holds a grudge, and
Speaker 1: what are his thoughts on how the game will end Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'd like to welcome David Goodchild to TV reload.
Speaker 2: Typically the oldest people always get voted out first. Previously
Speaker 2: on Australian Survivor, when he.
Speaker 3: Was streaking again crying and talking about stuff, I just went,
Speaker 3: that is so fakes. Everyone here is here to played
Speaker 3: to the end and you have to get rid of
Speaker 3: threats and the mistake.
Speaker 2: I made was naming name. Tonight you spilled the juice
Speaker 2: and it became there, we don't want to see Juicy
Speaker 2: Dave again.
Speaker 1: Seventeenth person wrote it out of blood versus water Dave.
Speaker 3: I'm going to wake up the snoozers and rattle the
Speaker 3: players a bit.
Speaker 1: Hi Dave aka Juicy Dave.
Speaker 2: How are you mate? It's been a tough night.
Speaker 1: It was an emotional end to last night's episode. Was
Speaker 1: it as emotional to watch back last night? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Last night it sort of brought it all back.
Speaker 3: It was I've given it everything, so it was sort
Speaker 3: of that to see it all unfold and how it
Speaker 3: actually came to that point that was that was very interesting?
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, of course it was. And I mean, I
Speaker 1: want to know when you know that you're going to
Speaker 1: watch something like that on television, which is a surreal
Speaker 1: experience to live something and then watch something so dramatic playback,
Speaker 1: who do you watch it with?
Speaker 2: Well, initially it was.
Speaker 3: Just going to be close family, and then then I thought, oh,
Speaker 3: you know, I bug of this, but no one knew,
Speaker 3: and I said, oh, why don't we have a bit.
Speaker 2: Of a get together. It's only a few more of
Speaker 2: these shows.
Speaker 3: So had a bunch of friends over and they were
Speaker 3: sort of all in it and just put it. They
Speaker 3: were as blind sided as man.
Speaker 1: Were you watching the TV screen or were you watching them?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like if it was me, I'd be
Speaker 1: watching everyone else's reaction.
Speaker 3: Seriously, I was watching the TV because I was just watching.
Speaker 3: I needed to know who who had done.
Speaker 2: What and said what and that thing. We only get
Speaker 2: this perspective of the game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And so when you're watching it and when you
Speaker 3: do viewings and stuff, you actually have to say, now,
Speaker 3: no talking through the show, because this is the first
Speaker 3: time we've actually seen the show.
Speaker 2: We only see it from here.
Speaker 3: You're trying to fill in all the blanks and oh,
Speaker 3: I see what's going on here.
Speaker 1: So is the Christmas list? Is it longer or shorter
Speaker 1: at this point?
Speaker 2: Like we're all friends at the end of the day,
Speaker 2: it's only your game.
Speaker 1: But Karaokes, You've got a pretty cool nickname out of
Speaker 1: this show. You know, like everyone wants to go on
Speaker 1: Survivor and be remembered for something, and juicy Dave is cool.
Speaker 1: We kind of know how you got that nickname, but
Speaker 1: I wondered if there was maybe some inception for that, Like,
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like there might have been more
Speaker 1: to that name than maybe what we saw.
Speaker 3: Look it came it was out of that tribal of course,
Speaker 3: where I gone in there.
Speaker 2: I had I had the idol.
Speaker 3: Amy had told me that she knew I had the idol,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden that changed the whole thing
Speaker 3: because it was going to become a public idol, and
Speaker 3: the last thing I wanted was a public idol, because
Speaker 3: that's target number one.
Speaker 2: So I thought, I've got to use this. So how
Speaker 2: am I going to do it? So?
Speaker 3: I thought, I'm going to wake up the snoozers and
Speaker 3: rattle the players a bit. So I thought, I'll just
Speaker 3: throw a few grenades here, there and everywhere and see
Speaker 3: how we go, and if I need to use it,
Speaker 3: I'll use it, but get it out there. And Jonathan said,
Speaker 3: oh what they say? Do you actually think you got
Speaker 3: some heat on you? And I said, well, it'll be
Speaker 3: good night for a Juicy Dave blindside and he goes
Speaker 3: juicy Dave and I said, well, it's got to ring
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 2: I doesn't know.
Speaker 3: He goes, no, no, no, he's not, haven't it?
Speaker 2: But then I started, you know, he's a good interrogator.
Speaker 3: He keeps asking the questions, and the mistake I made
Speaker 3: was naming names. If I just kept at third party,
Speaker 3: no problem. But at the moment I mentioned Sam, and
Speaker 3: of course that was blowing her game up, which is
Speaker 3: as we saw her game socially. It was epic and
Speaker 3: she just went, he's got a game. So it bloted
Speaker 3: me out, played the idol, and it became there, we
Speaker 3: don't want to see juicy Dave again.
Speaker 2: This is what they were saying. That was chaotic and
Speaker 2: out of control.
Speaker 1: Were you shocked? As I guess maybe the audience was
Speaker 1: to have survived the game after your daughter, because Brianna
Speaker 1: was a super fan of the show so excited to
Speaker 1: be there, and then you, being her father, is in
Speaker 1: there forty two days, which is amazing. Is that kind
Speaker 1: of how you thought it was going to play out?
Speaker 3: I did a bit of study beforehand, not a lot,
Speaker 3: and I listened to of Hailey's podcast and she said, now,
Speaker 3: typically the oldest people always get voted out first. That's
Speaker 3: what they did, and I'm just going, well, hold on
Speaker 3: a minute. I've just been set up here for the fall.
Speaker 3: I'm the old guy, and so strategy was never to
Speaker 3: give my age away. I just went, how am I
Speaker 3: going to do this? It's Brianna's dream, my nightmare. Then
Speaker 3: she gets voted out and I've just gone, I'm all in.
Speaker 3: I've got to take this and run with it as
Speaker 3: hard as I can. So yeah, I surprised myself.
Speaker 1: Was there anyone that you held a garage with inside
Speaker 1: the game?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: Not now because of Brianna's exit.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, No.
Speaker 3: I had it in for Kahan for sure, Like I
Speaker 3: knew he was instrumental in it.
Speaker 2: I just hence I.
Speaker 3: Brought him along, gave him that idol and sort of
Speaker 3: set him up for a bit of a fall, which
Speaker 3: didn't quite work, but it was at least having a crack.
Speaker 3: And then when he was still there when we did
Speaker 3: the merge, I just went, I couldn't believe it. Like
Speaker 3: he was on my target list. He had every time
Speaker 3: I spoke, I said, we've got to get rid of
Speaker 3: that idol, and cahn't so.
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is Karn's like one of the
Speaker 1: most loveliest peace people.
Speaker 2: So now I would go to jury.
Speaker 3: I actually felt really guilty because when he was breaking down,
Speaker 3: crying and talking about stuff, I just went, that is
Speaker 3: so fake. This guy is such a fake and when
Speaker 3: you actually meet him, he is the loveliest guy.
Speaker 1: He's the real deal. I've known him for like maybe
Speaker 1: ten years, and I just think it's so funny to
Speaker 1: have watched him on the show, because, yeah, he was
Speaker 1: great on that. I mean, he's phenomenal on the show,
Speaker 1: but he's just such a lovely guy. So being put
Speaker 1: in a situation where he had to blindside or do
Speaker 1: things to people, you know.
Speaker 3: Look, I thought he was good. He played an epic game,
Speaker 3: and then he was such a threat. Yeah, and having
Speaker 3: the idol is, like I said, once it's public, you
Speaker 3: just become a target. And it was good to see
Speaker 3: him go and I felt felt great about that, and
Speaker 3: then you meet him and like you say, it's true.
Speaker 2: It's good.
Speaker 1: I was completely blindsided by the elimination last night. I
Speaker 1: felt like last night Jordi and Mark were going to
Speaker 1: split the vote fifty to fifty. Is that kind of
Speaker 1: what you were thinking.
Speaker 3: So I had a feeling in that one that something
Speaker 3: was we had a plan, and that was exactly what
Speaker 3: it was going to be.
Speaker 2: Vote on Mark, vote on Jordi.
Speaker 3: Mark either goes or plays his idol tick and then Jordy,
Speaker 3: and something in me just went something not right here.
Speaker 2: I changed my vote to Jordi because it was the
Speaker 2: numbers to make it work.
Speaker 1: Mark.
Speaker 3: My one regret was I should have said to kJ, no,
Speaker 3: this doesn't seem right. He's going to play his idol anyway,
Speaker 3: Let's vote Jordy.
Speaker 2: And that would have that would have been ideal.
Speaker 3: It's one of these regrets in the game because Mark
Speaker 3: would have played his idol in vain Jordy.
Speaker 2: The blind side would have blindside of Jordy like.
Speaker 3: It was a blindside back, and I would have got
Speaker 3: in there with the good rapport with kJ and I
Speaker 3: just needed to bring Chrissy across, and that was my
Speaker 3: pathway through those those guys.
Speaker 1: I love Chrissy. I'm mildly obsessed with her. I think
Speaker 1: she needs a restraining order against me on Instagram because
Speaker 1: what do you.
Speaker 2: See on the show is Chrissy as mad as a hatter.
Speaker 2: That his just goal and she's tops.
Speaker 1: Well, you read the situation as the remaining castaways thought
Speaker 1: that you were a bigger threat than some you know,
Speaker 1: some of the remaining players. But don't you think that
Speaker 1: you ended up being collateral damage to the sudden scramble
Speaker 1: for new alliances because of course they all knew that
Speaker 1: there was bigger threats, but I felt like they all
Speaker 1: had to now prove their worth to their new sudden alliances.
Speaker 3: No, my thought was his how I thought it went,
Speaker 3: because honestly, get rid of get rid of Jordie.
Speaker 2: He was such as chaotic.
Speaker 3: If he's got to run on on the challenges, he
Speaker 3: was going to get himself through, even with Mark having
Speaker 3: the two idols. The issue was that I was getting
Speaker 3: into Chrissy's head, and they don't show that on the
Speaker 3: edit so much because Chrissy and I were pretty tight
Speaker 3: by this stage and she but she was also tight
Speaker 3: with Mark being right from the original and Josh and
Speaker 3: those two could see that I was making inroads because
Speaker 3: I said to Chrissy, if you want a chance at
Speaker 3: winning this game, you need to come on with me
Speaker 3: and kJ because at least you'll.
Speaker 2: Have an argument. One.
Speaker 3: You would have blindsided these guys which had made a
Speaker 3: massive move, and people will respect that, and that gives
Speaker 3: you a shot. If you don't do this, they'll just
Speaker 3: say you're just tagged along with these big heavy hitters
Speaker 3: and done nothing. I said, here's your opportunity do it,
Speaker 3: and it was getting into a head. They picked it
Speaker 3: and they just and that's why it became a threat,
Speaker 3: and they just kept coming up with my name throwing
Speaker 3: around left, right and center.
Speaker 1: You were sort of the first person to step outside
Speaker 1: of that male alliance. Do you think that might have
Speaker 1: been the beginning of the end.
Speaker 2: It was down to six. We've got rid of those guys,
Speaker 2: and they went the purgatory and came back. But I
Speaker 2: was down to six.
Speaker 3: But the reality was I knew it was the bottom
Speaker 3: of the six and so when you're that end of
Speaker 3: the stick, you've at some point you've got to make
Speaker 3: a move.
Speaker 2: But it's all about timing.
Speaker 3: If you do it too early, you are just collateral
Speaker 3: damage it you're a trader or whatever. At that point,
Speaker 3: it was like something to break and I had a
Speaker 3: good Oh, Josh, call me the judist, but.
Speaker 2: I had the excuse that Sam was acting skills one.
Speaker 2: I won again mensa.
Speaker 3: Sol through Jordan under the bus, which gave us that opportunity,
Speaker 3: which then switched Josh to be able to vote for Sam.
Speaker 3: It had some good knock on effects and I think
Speaker 3: the timing was right. If I didn't make a move.
Speaker 3: I was literally just going to get wiped out.
Speaker 1: We need a bigger corkboard, is what I say when
Speaker 1: it comes to plotting how all things fell down, because
Speaker 1: you're couldn't be like, well, it was actually because of
Speaker 1: this and day one because of that, you.
Speaker 2: Know, before tribal.
Speaker 3: The only way I could get it into my head, I'd
Speaker 3: get my phone and I'd smooth out the sand and
Speaker 3: I'd have a twig and I do little maps of people.
Speaker 2: Now this one goes.
Speaker 3: If I joined this, you know, and you'd go in,
Speaker 3: go right now, I can in my head this is
Speaker 3: the options.
Speaker 1: Are you shocked that Jordi has been able to survive
Speaker 1: as long as he has, Like I felt like he's
Speaker 1: the cat with nine lives.
Speaker 3: The trouble with Jeordi he did too many deals with
Speaker 3: too many people, so his credibility was never never You
Speaker 3: can never trust the guet because he'd come in and do.
Speaker 2: A deal with you and go right out.
Speaker 3: Well we could because there was four of us. We
Speaker 3: could have actually wiped those guys out or given a
Speaker 3: good shot. But then he went and does a deal
Speaker 3: with Josh, and you could tell he was doing this.
Speaker 3: So he took you and then do another deal, and
Speaker 3: so unfortunately his credibility went and he was always on
Speaker 3: the chopping block. I gave him full credit, but just
Speaker 3: survival underdog fights, you know, those challenges. The way he
Speaker 3: could come back and survived pain. Not so good on
Speaker 3: the puzzles, great on the pain threshold.
Speaker 1: You know those Batman references were at fever pitch last night.
Speaker 1: Was there that many Batman? Joker two Faced references being
Speaker 1: thrown around every day?
Speaker 3: Mark and Josh and they're like movie fanatics, so they
Speaker 3: were just quote movies NonStop, you know. Yeah, and Batman
Speaker 3: was in there, but certainly two Face wasn't charn because
Speaker 3: just wanted to keep that under that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because he's two Face, That's that's the name, right,
Speaker 1: and he calls me juus. It seems like everyone's going
Speaker 1: to have a moment with Sam that's going to take
Speaker 1: some time to hear what played in the game, because
Speaker 1: you know, you've turned up and the tension was just
Speaker 1: as big as when she faced everyone last week. Do
Speaker 1: you think everyone's going to have that moment with her?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look, this is the thing, Sam, Sam played the game.
Speaker 3: She's never going to win the game because she had bridges,
Speaker 3: but that was their strategy. Yeah, so she was always
Speaker 3: going to be the colateral damage. But what she's good
Speaker 3: at is convincing you. But she did the right thing.
Speaker 3: And you're part of that plan and we're all great mates.
Speaker 3: We all want to have that discussion with Sam.
Speaker 1: Who do you think is going to win at this
Speaker 1: point you've.
Speaker 3: Got you look at the players. I think Chrissy left
Speaker 3: it too late to make a big move. I think
Speaker 3: Shay hasn't done any moves with great challenge Josh and
Speaker 3: Mark and Jordie. I think Jordie's done his dash because
Speaker 3: he's just so threatening, like chaos.
Speaker 2: He's got to be we've gotten rid of.
Speaker 3: If he can survive, he's got a good shot at it,
Speaker 3: he's got a great story and people love it.
Speaker 2: And then you've got Josh, and I think Josh played
Speaker 2: too safe.
Speaker 3: And then when you look at the gameplay, if you're
Speaker 3: going to take couples, Mark.
Speaker 2: And Sam's gameplay was just exemplar. If you ask me, he's.
Speaker 3: The biggest threat, and look at the size of his
Speaker 3: one hundred and seventeen kilograms, always threatening, but never came across.
Speaker 1: As a threat until he went to those pieces to
Speaker 1: camera and continue referencing the fact that he used to
Speaker 1: kill people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. But in the game, like when.
Speaker 3: He was talking to people a bit lovely early he
Speaker 3: would lie in the water so it didn't look big
Speaker 3: and intimidate.
Speaker 2: So very strategic right from day one.
Speaker 1: And yeah, he's the crop that lies on the side
Speaker 1: of the river though you know they lie still and
Speaker 1: then gotcha, what is something? This is something I ask
Speaker 1: everybody who joins the podcast. What's something from behind the
Speaker 1: scenes that we're as an audience might appreciate that we
Speaker 1: didn't get to see from your time on Australian Survivor.
Speaker 2: Oh good question.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people ask, is that do
Speaker 3: you end up going to a resort or something and
Speaker 3: lying down on nice pushy beds. The what you see
Speaker 3: there is what you what we lie on. It is
Speaker 3: literally you've got to get that keep that fire going.
Speaker 3: You've got to lie in the dirt. You've got to
Speaker 3: do with what you've got there. And the food is
Speaker 3: what the food is. You know he saw it last
Speaker 3: I nearly vomited them and I saw the beans getting
Speaker 3: poured out of woof at a recall because they know
Speaker 3: as fish and pool rooms and everything like this going,
Speaker 3: and it was just so much of a sensory overload that, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was. It was crazy because all you've done is
Speaker 3: beans and rice for forty two days, a good weight
Speaker 3: loss program.
Speaker 1: I just want to say, Juicy Dave, you were so
Speaker 1: great to watch the show. I hope that you've been
Speaker 1: fed since then, and I really hope you've enjoyed your
Speaker 1: time on the show because we enjoyed watching it.
Speaker 3: Oh great, Thanks Ben, I appreciate that, and thanks for
Speaker 3: having us on the show.