1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Jonesy and Demanda podcast. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 2: The world is tough. No one's going to say otherwise 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 2: right now. At the end of last year, we thought, oh, 4 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: thank goodness that he is finished. And now this yearveryone's 5 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 2: going what can't it be December already? For like we 6 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 2: had a million months already, tell of a month. But 7 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 2: the whole world seems to be leaning into the story 8 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: of Punch the Monkey. Now, Punch the Monkey sounds like 9 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: a game show that you're not hosting. 10 00:00:23,400 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: I'll give it to Daniel Ginsburg or MDA damn man. 11 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: Punch is You may have seen this footage a incredibly 12 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:36,159 Speaker 2: cute seven month old macac monkey in a zoo in Japan. 13 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: It's Chikawa City Zoo in Japan, and I think Punch 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 2: was abandoned by his mum at birth, and the bond 15 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 2: between the mother and the baby, as we know in 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: all primates, is incredibly strong, and without that bond, little 17 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 2: Punch has been finding it very hard to fit into 18 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 2: the tribe and to find social cues. And so a 19 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 2: lot of people have seen Little Punch being handled aggressively 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 2: by the other caqus, by being rejected by the other macaqus. 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 2: Everyone's going crazy all around the world, saying we have 22 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 2: to protect Punch. Well, Punch has been given a toy 23 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 2: o ranger tank, and Punch drags this thing around, cuddles 24 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 2: up to it, goes and grabs it in times of stress, 25 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 2: and sleeps with it. It's broken. The world's herd and warm, 26 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 2: the world work warm. The world's hard as well. So 27 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 2: it's interesting because the zoo is saying when we're seeing 28 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 2: footage of some of the animals, maybe not necessarily rejecting it, 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 2: but being a little bit harsh with it, saying, this 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 2: is what zoo's this is what animals do being scolded 31 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 2: by the other monkeys. This is how Punch will learn 32 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,679 Speaker 2: to fit in with their Is it we call it 33 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: a tribe monkeys planned a batch of monkeys. So the 34 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 2: whole world is watching Punch. And what's interesting too is 35 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 2: the ikea toy that Punch has been taken everywhere with 36 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 2: it has been sold out around the world. What's it 37 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 2: called in ike language is a jungle sklog, but Ikera 38 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 2: using it for advertising with an ad with two monkeys, 39 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 2: one of them the stranglishklog and one of them looking 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: like it's a toy monkey, but looking like a little 41 00:02:14,639 --> 00:02:17,520 Speaker 2: punch of them, a caque saying sometimes family is who 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,959 Speaker 2: we find along the way. It's like a scene from 43 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 2: toy story. It is. But you know what's interesting, it's 44 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: ten years since another zoo monkey captured our imaginations in 45 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: a more frightening way. And this is the story of Harumbe. 46 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: Do you remember Harmbe as were younger than Brendan and. 47 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: What was twenty sixteen? 48 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 2: What would Harmbe do? Became became a cult. 49 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: The little kid was in the enclosure and it was 50 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: that heart stopping moment because they had to shoot for 51 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: old Harmbe because at any minute he could rip the 52 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: kin to pieces and no one wants to see that. 53 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 2: This was in Cincinnati Zoo. He gained worldwide attention. This 54 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: was in May twenty sixteen. As you say, a three 55 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: year old boy climbed into the enclosure, so zoo staff 56 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: had to act to protect the child. But there was 57 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 2: global outrage, a million memes that came around about it, 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: lots of debates about all of this. But this is 59 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 2: what's interesting. This is ten years ago. This is what's 60 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 2: being written here. Each decade is defined by a zoo monkey. 61 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 2: In twenty sixteen. There was Harambe who cursed us with 62 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: ten years of bad fortune. And now there is Punch, 63 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 2: who the world is leaning into save, who will bless 64 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: us with ten years of oh fortune. Well, that's no pressure, Punch. 65 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: That's called a lot. Writing on the success of Punch, 66 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 2: this is great