WEBVTT - We're Starting A Cult!  👩‍👩‍👧‍👧 *redacted*

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<v Speaker 1>Flex and Rooms, Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 2>This is the Flex and Frooms catch up podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, oh yeah, I hate it that. Oh be gentle,

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<v Speaker 1>sound like a music teacher in prep. On today's show,

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<v Speaker 1>Flexi's got a big question. This is a new segment

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<v Speaker 1>that we are encouraging here on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your question, Flexi? What is the worst way someone

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<v Speaker 2>could describe you?

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<v Speaker 3>And of course we're finally getting to the peak of

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<v Speaker 3>our life's purpose.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to start a cult together.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, obviously here we go.

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<v Speaker 2>Tech Time, tech time, text time. It's tech time with

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<v Speaker 2>Flex and Frooms on cater put to the next level.

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<v Speaker 3>Stunning ref.

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<v Speaker 2>NPC.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, okay, Roses, Roses, you guys are amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a life. That's the like, that's my dad. There's

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<v Speaker 2>my dad. Figure.

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<v Speaker 3>You people are not on NPC. I would advise you

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<v Speaker 3>to get on. If you don't know what that is,

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<v Speaker 3>Google will tell you.

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<v Speaker 1>Ros is.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, what is the tech time for today?

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<v Speaker 3>For me?

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<v Speaker 1>The tech time for today is about a thing called

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<v Speaker 1>worm GPT. We're all across chat debut. We use it

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<v Speaker 1>to write assignments, we use it to draft breakup texts.

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<v Speaker 2>I use it to write my break lease. Oh that's genius.

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<v Speaker 1>When you break in.

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<v Speaker 2>The lease no my last apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, thank god, I said, you can't leave Melbourne. So

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<v Speaker 1>there is a new thing called worm GPT and it's

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<v Speaker 1>helping online scams get more sophisticated. This is a headline

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<v Speaker 1>for the City Morning Herald. They said online scams are

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<v Speaker 1>about to get more sophisticated than Nigerian Princess.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm, did we have to go there? Let through? It's

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<v Speaker 2>a big wompy, but here we are.

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<v Speaker 1>So apparently worm GBT is the evil cousin of chat GPT.

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<v Speaker 1>What it's going to do is help hackers send way

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<v Speaker 1>more tailored hack hacking things to people. So, for example,

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<v Speaker 1>I keep getting oz posts and also toll like messages,

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<v Speaker 1>and I always look at them because we did training.

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<v Speaker 1>It cater to look at what it's like to be phished,

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<v Speaker 1>and if they've got like one character wrong in the hyperlink,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't click it.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically, this worm GPT app is giving hackers a

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<v Speaker 3>way more sophisticated way to scammers by using our data

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<v Speaker 3>to determine which things were most likely to click on exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>And they're built with the ability to imitate writing styles

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<v Speaker 1>and convincingly, Taylor copy from the specific person or entity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So you get a little message from CommBank Yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, oh, I've heard this dial tone before and

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<v Speaker 1>this person sounds extremely.

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<v Speaker 2>Real where you pick up no, but you might.

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<v Speaker 1>Because of worm GPT, these hackers supply the model with

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<v Speaker 1>previous email samples and social media posts to mimic the

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<v Speaker 1>writing style of organizations. They can also obtain images of

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<v Speaker 1>everyday people posted on social media and customize them according

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<v Speaker 1>to the scams context to make the story look even

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<v Speaker 1>more convincing. This allth has gone down the romance route

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<v Speaker 1>and thinks that this will be used for evil when

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to the dating world. And I said, that

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<v Speaker 1>is horrible, and I wanted to know Flexi before the break.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you rather be catfish romantically just short term not

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<v Speaker 1>a long term thing, or have your credit card compromise

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<v Speaker 1>you get the money back. It's just a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a minor nvenience.

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<v Speaker 2>Not you're doing a census really quickly.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not giving the scammer is going to take this

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<v Speaker 3>voice break and then send me a voice ramo from

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<v Speaker 3>you and tell me to click a link to our

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<v Speaker 3>later show where we talk about this exact topic.

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<v Speaker 2>What I will say people, I think.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of us are, despite having these really sophisticated

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<v Speaker 3>technologies come out, a lot of us are forgetting Internet

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<v Speaker 3>literacy one oh one. If you do not recognize the link,

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<v Speaker 3>don't click it. I get a lot of scam text

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<v Speaker 3>from people pretending to be Telstra saying, oh, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Have this build you, you have this build you, you

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<v Speaker 2>have this build you.

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<v Speaker 3>If you ever get a text from a company, go

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<v Speaker 3>to your emails and double check. If it's not in

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<v Speaker 3>your email, then call. Just assume that any message from

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<v Speaker 3>a company is a scam, and just don't click links.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't understand. Stop clicking links.

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<v Speaker 1>I alwaso if you click link on your phone, you

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<v Speaker 1>can't get a virus because virus is only happened to computers.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but then like no, they put something in your

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<v Speaker 3>phone when you click the link, then scanning your phone

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<v Speaker 3>for all this incriminating information. It's got your auto field stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>So now no, it's your passwords. It's just it's far

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<v Speaker 3>more encrypted than you think it might be. Just err

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<v Speaker 3>on the side of caution. It takes a second not

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<v Speaker 3>to click a link. But in terms of would I

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<v Speaker 3>rather be catfits romantically or financially. I'm gonna pick neither.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you have a preference.

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<v Speaker 1>I'd rather my credit card be gone because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get the honeyback. I can't handle another another.

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<v Speaker 3>She said, too much. The dating content rights itself. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>so thankful for the people on the internet who overshare

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<v Speaker 3>like they pay to do it, because these first hand

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<v Speaker 3>accounts of every day regular people share their business for

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<v Speaker 3>free so we can talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're doing God's work.

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<v Speaker 3>We have this TikTok from this creator called cellistee.

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<v Speaker 1>But as would you let a man take you out

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<v Speaker 1>on a first date on his birthday?

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<v Speaker 2>His birthday we never met before? Because I want to

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<v Speaker 2>say no, I feel like it's too much. You know it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Honestly, and you know I'm trying to do this thing

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<v Speaker 3>where I keep an open mind. This is not one

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<v Speaker 3>of those occasions. It signals so many wrong things. This

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<v Speaker 3>is the day or the anniversary of you being brought

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<v Speaker 3>into this world and you don't have near a friend

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<v Speaker 3>to celebrate with, near a family member.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't get it.

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<v Speaker 3>And also my worry if I go down the sinister path,

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<v Speaker 3>what are the expectations he has for you by giving

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<v Speaker 3>you the honor of sharing this grand day with him.

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<v Speaker 2>Facts. I don't like it.

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<v Speaker 1>I do wonder though, maybe they're had like a champagne

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<v Speaker 1>breakfast lunch with the work colleagues, and they just so,

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a bit of time, is fair?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Birthday sex God Jeremiah? Okay? What a tune?

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<v Speaker 2>REMI does listen to R and B and real On.

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<v Speaker 2>We weren't sure.

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<v Speaker 3>We weren't sure, but she has done a bit of

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<v Speaker 3>research in her time. I think you can do anything,

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<v Speaker 3>you can do whatever you want to. But recently I've

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<v Speaker 3>become really attuned to the fact that people are making

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<v Speaker 3>snap judgment about you constantly, based on what you look like,

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<v Speaker 3>what you say, how you say it, how they respond

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<v Speaker 3>to you, how you make them feel. This one just

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<v Speaker 3>feels like you've already made a snap judgment and it's

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<v Speaker 3>not good. You don't feel celebrated or powerful. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>really feel complimentary your offert So don't go. And for

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<v Speaker 3>anyone thinking of organizing a first date for their birthday,

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<v Speaker 3>unless you are a serial loaner or you're doing it

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<v Speaker 3>despite your friends and family, I would advise not to.

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<v Speaker 3>I really would, because also people grow to hate their

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<v Speaker 3>birthdays because they're not sacred with them. How many birthdays

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<v Speaker 3>have you had where partner's made you cry and it's

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<v Speaker 3>ruined it for you? Why is that a universal experience?

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<v Speaker 1>Why is it not good getting mad because you brought

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<v Speaker 1>me a shanza kai and nothing else.

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<v Speaker 2>What time is it for Mia?

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Flexi's Big Question.

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<v Speaker 3>No, that's the sting. Oh, okay, what time is it?

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<v Speaker 3>Formiana don't speak?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, ladies and gentlemen, it's time for Flexi's Big Question

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<v Speaker 1>of the week. Okay Andy in the sound booth.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, actor, let's get right into it. Big question of

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<v Speaker 3>the week. What is the worst way someone can describe you? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>I hate it? Yeah, right now, you want me to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean we could think about it. Can I bring

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<v Speaker 3>some thought starters to the space.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure. I feel like a lot of us have low.

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<v Speaker 3>Level insecurities, Like there are a few things that really

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<v Speaker 3>make us uncomfortable thinking about, but overall not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Like for me that short stint on Big Brother. I

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<v Speaker 3>got a boring edit, and when I was thinking back,

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, reading this commentary on Twitter, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>these people think I'm boring. I'm a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>but boring. I feel like that hurt my feelings, right,

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<v Speaker 3>I think it would hurt my feelings if somebody said

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<v Speaker 3>that I was selfish. But it's not the worst way

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<v Speaker 3>you can describe me. There are worse ways you could

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<v Speaker 3>say that I am.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me not give anyone any fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, walk into the lines. Den.

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<v Speaker 3>What I mean to say is that you can justify

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<v Speaker 3>or rationalize a lot of the low level insecurities you

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<v Speaker 3>have that are just a byproduct of being alive, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just like you're being perceived and therefore you feel bad.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think if we knew what our big one was,

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<v Speaker 3>like the jackhammer achilles Heel, knife into the stern and

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<v Speaker 3>break my heart, then the other ones would feel so

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<v Speaker 3>pale in comparison, and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Would then make it easier to rationalize them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, cool, Like you think this thing about me,

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<v Speaker 2>but you don't know. You don't know the big whopper?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you need the hidden No? I think you just

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<v Speaker 2>know it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I know it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we should find out.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>So the reason why I'm asking is because I think

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of people fall back on like the ambiguity

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<v Speaker 3>of like, we all have insecurities.

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<v Speaker 2>What's yours? Yeah, what's yours about yourself? What's yours?

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<v Speaker 3>Because you're you're talking about minor we all, That's not

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<v Speaker 3>the one I'm focused on right I'm focused on the

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<v Speaker 3>one that makes you question your value as a person.

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<v Speaker 3>And maybe it's not even been said to you before.

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<v Speaker 3>If you want to jump on our Instagram right now,

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<v Speaker 3>it's Lex and Rooms. We've actually put up a question.

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<v Speaker 2>Box with this.

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<v Speaker 3>We want all of your answers. Don't waste our time

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<v Speaker 3>with the low levels. I need to know what is

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<v Speaker 3>the worst way someone can describe you? Because on Thursday

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<v Speaker 3>we're going to share all the answers we've collated. We're

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<v Speaker 3>going to dig deep, We're going to unpack, and we

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<v Speaker 3>might just share our own if we can find it.

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<v Speaker 2>In that time.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be thinking, but I'm not sure if I'm willing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm currently not seeing a psychologist. A difficult situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Un pop culture you missed with Flex and Frooms.

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<v Speaker 3>I've been pondering this idea of whether the maintaining closeness

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<v Speaker 3>with fans is a slippery slope for celebrities. I think,

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<v Speaker 3>week after week, month after month, year after year, we're

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<v Speaker 3>only really seeing the negative ramifications of a celebrity that's

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<v Speaker 3>made their audience feel closer than they need to to

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<v Speaker 3>consume the art, to consume the music, to consume the movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So, Doja Cat has been going through it for the

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<v Speaker 3>last I would say, a year or so. And for

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<v Speaker 3>me personally, when I'm looking at someone who has quite

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<v Speaker 3>a quirky archetype, when they're doing something that is seen

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<v Speaker 3>as a bit unique online, I'm most likely going to

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<v Speaker 3>assume there's a new something coming out, a new single

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<v Speaker 3>coming out, a new album coming out, a documentary. So

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't really been internalizing any of the stuff that

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<v Speaker 3>she's been doing, but it's actually been quite terrible to recap.

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<v Speaker 3>She's been seen in in cell chat forums. She's been

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<v Speaker 3>making music, racially insensitive music, using slurs against black people

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<v Speaker 3>that are undercover, Like, we've not even heard these ones.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not even the traditional slur. She's unraveled to

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<v Speaker 3>new ones and you might be saying, isn't she black? Huff,

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<v Speaker 3>She's half and racism and internalized races can get the

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<v Speaker 3>best of us.

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<v Speaker 2>Now. She has been seen dating.

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<v Speaker 3>People who are known bigots, known racist non insuels it's

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<v Speaker 3>just not really good, and people have been speculating she've

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<v Speaker 3>been trying to get out of her contract with her label,

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<v Speaker 3>so she's been acting out. Most recently, it seems she

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<v Speaker 3>started a war with her own fans, which I would

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<v Speaker 3>have thought would be the last place you'd want to

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<v Speaker 3>be on the wrong side of history, but she just

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<v Speaker 3>does not care. She's come under fire in the last

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<v Speaker 3>few months for saying number one, she hates her fans.

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<v Speaker 3>She's threatened to quit music after clashing with one of

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<v Speaker 3>her fans who criticized her for not stop to interact

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<v Speaker 3>with them at a hotel and Paraguay. Based on that interaction,

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<v Speaker 3>she told the fan to beep themselves. Then she also

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<v Speaker 3>told a fan to delete their entire account after the

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<v Speaker 3>fans suggested that the collective fandom call themselves kittens. Dojah

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<v Speaker 3>was offended to delete your account and then delete your life.

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<v Speaker 3>She then referred to the music that she's made up

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<v Speaker 3>until this point as being a cash grab and in

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<v Speaker 3>throwing her fans are dumb for falling for.

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<v Speaker 2>Cash cow core cash cow.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's just been almost after hit and I know

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<v Speaker 3>that a lot of people say it's hard to be

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<v Speaker 3>a fan of someone problematic. Kanye fans say it all

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<v Speaker 3>the time, Azalea Banks fans say all the time. Even

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<v Speaker 3>Britney fans say, like, it's really hard to know when

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<v Speaker 3>this is a gag versus when you're not on our

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<v Speaker 3>side anymore. And so it begs the question, if Dojah

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<v Speaker 3>maintains this reality where she has no fans, can she

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<v Speaker 3>even be an artist? Can an artist maintain their streams,

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<v Speaker 3>maintain their merch sales, maintain touring if their fans don't

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<v Speaker 3>like them. I would assume yes, because I think it'll

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<v Speaker 3>get to the point where everybody is like, she doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>mean it. Yeah, you go so far, you know, And

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<v Speaker 3>I get like I get to matter, and like she's

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<v Speaker 3>angry at her label and like she's acting out. But

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<v Speaker 3>I feel as though I'm in two minds. I think

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<v Speaker 3>that if this comes out, that she's just doing it

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<v Speaker 3>to get out of her deal, like she doesn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to be an artist anymore, and her fans are collateral.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they'll understand if she doesn't let her fans

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<v Speaker 3>in on the bit. I think it's getting to the

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<v Speaker 3>point where what she's doing is being viewed as the

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<v Speaker 3>ultimate disrespect. It's one thing to say you don't like

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<v Speaker 3>what you're experiencing, but to question our literacy, our intelligence,

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<v Speaker 3>our commitment to you, what.

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<v Speaker 2>Are we doing this for? I think it's juicy.

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<v Speaker 3>It is hurtful, but like, yeah, stuff is, it's weird

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<v Speaker 3>and not to be shady, please, I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be shady. But the stuff that she's a cash scrab

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<v Speaker 3>you know, say so, and all of those things sound

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<v Speaker 3>just like the new music, Oh, attention and paint the

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<v Speaker 3>Town red. Yes, they're like a slower bpm, but like

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<v Speaker 3>it's the same stuff, to the point where she was saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I commend any of my fans who called

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<v Speaker 3>my rapping style corny before, because it was corny. But

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<v Speaker 3>the new stuff attention and paint the Town Red, which

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<v Speaker 3>she claims is meant to be the high brow real

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<v Speaker 3>rap stuff, is just as corny cell phone, So what

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<v Speaker 3>is it? We are distressed. We are keeping close eye

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<v Speaker 3>on it, of course, as we do, and we're going

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<v Speaker 3>to maintain our journalistic integrity and give you updates where

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<v Speaker 3>updates are necessary. But if you are interested, type in

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<v Speaker 3>doja cat in cell and you'll be like, it's harrowing.

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<v Speaker 3>You're kind of like babes you are here creating new

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<v Speaker 3>slurs for these in cels to use.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you so deep in it? It can create

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<v Speaker 2>a very it's very it's very horrwing.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say that some of our favorite activities includ talking, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>preaching to some quiet and attempting to be as it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Really faithful audience.

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<v Speaker 1>We've been thinking a lot about how to start someone

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<v Speaker 1>to call it a cult? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>And do we need to register it as a business

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<v Speaker 3>a gsc sitsue?

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<v Speaker 2>Truly? What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty five percent tax free or twenty Is it an org?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a dot org? I think it might be

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<v Speaker 1>a nonprofit.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know that a nonprofit anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think if we were to make one FLEXI,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we have to do?

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<v Speaker 2>I never heard of a cult with two equal leaders?

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<v Speaker 2>Have we? Has there ever been one?

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<v Speaker 3>Is it because I personally if I don't want to

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<v Speaker 3>be a cult leader, but I want to be a

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<v Speaker 3>right hand man.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well then I don't want to be face. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to be advisor.

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<v Speaker 1>That's crazy because I would have thought the opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's too much press.

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<v Speaker 1>You're letting me go down with the ship. Once we

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<v Speaker 1>finally need to find it out and yeah, please, So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're the one forming the cult, it's likely that

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<v Speaker 1>you're the leader, but you need to make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>your cult is organized for good purposes. That's where you

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<v Speaker 1>come in.

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<v Speaker 2>Where are you finding this information wiki?

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<v Speaker 1>How?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, so it's plagiarist.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, okay. Number two of starting a cult write up

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<v Speaker 1>a body text. All cults have governing texts which have

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<v Speaker 1>the virtue of being both mysteriously vague, pseudo profound, and

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<v Speaker 1>easy to read by a white variety of people.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, ascribe we already have our rules for life. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>fully did that series in preparation. It would seem well

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<v Speaker 2>in hindsight.

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<v Speaker 1>Third, you need to find a place or practice of

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<v Speaker 1>worship the Internet. Fair warning, people will probably find the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of a cult about anything pretty strange. You may

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<v Speaker 1>face a lot of hostility and backlash. That's why we

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<v Speaker 1>have chosen words off on Instagram in the words. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're really public with your cult, so obviously we still

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<v Speaker 1>need to have some secrecy around our society objections, please, sir.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if we're going to start a cult in

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<v Speaker 3>the vein of the future, not the past, because if

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<v Speaker 3>we look into the past. It's a lot of cautionary tales.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not really that aspirational. I think we need to

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<v Speaker 3>do the opposite. We need to double down and say

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<v Speaker 3>this is a cult. Honestly, we're picky with members, but

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<v Speaker 3>if you pay.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll let you in. Do you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the more obvious and certain we are, the

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<v Speaker 3>less you get, because I think it's the suspicion of

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening behind closed doors that causes us like It

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<v Speaker 3>erodes trust, it creates mystery, it separates people from their

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<v Speaker 3>support systems. I don't want any of that. I want

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<v Speaker 3>an integrated lifestyle. Perks were introducing you members the finders fee,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, that's truly I think it needs to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be run with a corporation.

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<v Speaker 1>I never forget the day I put my Instagram on private.

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<v Speaker 2>Fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to give away with my paid content abilities

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<v Speaker 1>for about a month there that I had on private,

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<v Speaker 1>But boy did a boost morale with the followers. Finally,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to come up with a slogan. All clubs,

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<v Speaker 1>organizations and groups need good slogans. Cults do that they do.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh and of course, the number one thing about starting

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<v Speaker 1>a cult. Thank you pretty simcky pointing it out on

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<v Speaker 1>the sheet. We need to pick an obsession. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>here at Flex and Frooms, we will be upfront as

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<v Speaker 1>we previously said that we intend to be. We want

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<v Speaker 1>to start a cult friends and family of the Potty

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<v Speaker 1>and the radio show.

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<v Speaker 2>I think our.

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<v Speaker 1>Obsessions should be I go with a fast food option,

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<v Speaker 1>but obviously they're not paying, so no.

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<v Speaker 3>I think our obsession needs to be creating a utopia

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<v Speaker 3>that's like in our vision. So I don't think we

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<v Speaker 3>need to little it down to one singular cause like

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<v Speaker 3>ascending or being the first one to touch down on Mars.

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<v Speaker 3>But everything needs to be self serving, so people are

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<v Speaker 3>feeding into their own self serving narrative but also feeding

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<v Speaker 3>into ours. Needs to be too proned because everybody knows

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<v Speaker 3>self actualization is being disciplined for yourself but also committed

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<v Speaker 3>to a greater purpose. We can be someone else's greater purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>They need to be disciplined to theirselves.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm made for this.

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<v Speaker 3>You, on the other hand, through me, I feel like

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<v Speaker 3>you need to figure out what your role is here,

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<v Speaker 3>Like yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's something here, there's something near.

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<v Speaker 3>I just want to be like slightly to the left

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<v Speaker 3>of you a foot backwards, sitting down, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>want us to only talk in stairs or was this

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<v Speaker 3>just like star around each other glance at stairs here?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want people to be like, how what are

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<v Speaker 2>they talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>This essentially what we do.

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<v Speaker 2>However, we are forced to use our voices, which show

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I want from us.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well we'll come back to it next week, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>we'll ask WICKI how what's next?

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