1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 1: This is jem Nation with Jones. The Sydney Morning Herald 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: is in a spot of trouble. This story has gone 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,319 Speaker 1: international and involves Rebel Wilson, who posted a picture of 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 1: herself on her Instagram with her girlfriend, saying I thought 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: I was searching for a Disney prince, but maybe what 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 1: I really needed all this time was a Disney princess. 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: It's a lovely story. This happened on Friday, but what 8 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: is unfolded since then is that what we didn't know 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 1: was that the Sydney Morning Herald, this is the private 10 00:00:30,240 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: Sydney column ps PS had contacted her management. Apparently they'd 11 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: seen that she had photos with this girl on a 12 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: number of her Instagram sites. They heard that she was 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: having a relationship with this woman, and they emailed Rebel's 14 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: management and said, we know about this relationship. Would she 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: like to comment on it? Our deadline is tomorrow. So 16 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: really she was kind of it looks now bullied into 17 00:00:58,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: having to out herself before they outed her. Then, on 18 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 1: Sunday in the newspaper this same columnus, in an opinion piece, 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: wrote about how cranky he was that she'd gazumped him 20 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: with the story of her own relationship, he wrote. So 21 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:20,559 Speaker 1: he said he'd known about the relationship and had given 22 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: Rebel two days to comment and respond to these questions 23 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: about her love life, and then he wrote, big mistake. 24 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: Wilson opted to gazump the story, posting about her new 25 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: Disney Princess on Instagram Friday morning, the same platform she'd 26 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: previously used to brag about her handsome, exed boyfriend, wealthy American, 27 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,559 Speaker 1: et cetera, et cetera. So he was annoyed that she'd 28 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: gazumped him. Well, no, no, it's not fair enough. He 29 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 1: can privately be cranky. Oh, I had that story, but 30 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 1: he wrote, but what has this bigger picture now that 31 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: people are appalled at is that he was going to 32 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: out her. He says, Oh, I hadn't decided whether I'd 33 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: publish it or not. I was giving her the option 34 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,559 Speaker 1: to comment. But if you've got an email saying I'm 35 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: going to I know this information about you, I've got 36 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: two day deadline, get back to me. So she decided 37 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: she preempt that and try and own the story herself, 38 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: and then he gets cranky at her for talking for 39 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: owning her own story of coming out. It's an extraordinary 40 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: tale and a lot of people. A number of people 41 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: at the Sydney Morning Herald are appalled, saying, what's our news? 42 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 1: What's become of our newspaper? We're really outing people. 43 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: Now, that's daily mail material. 44 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: And Andrew Hornery, the journalist himself, who he's gay, He says, 45 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: this was never my intention. I know this is I 46 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: did not attempt to out her. I want to give 47 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,360 Speaker 1: her a chance to tell her side the story. I 48 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: can now see that I didn't phrase that correctly. I 49 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: do apologize, and Rebel has said, thank you everyone for 50 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: your comments. It's a very hard situation, but I'm trying 51 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,119 Speaker 1: to handle it with grace. So this story has gone 52 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: all around the world saying, are we back in the 53 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: eighties outing people from the Sydney Morning Harold Really? So look, 54 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: good luck to Rebel in this relationship. But it should 55 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,240 Speaker 1: have been well and truly up to her about how 56 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 1: and if she told this story herself. 57 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: I'd be a gossip writer, wouldn't it. What would you 58 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 2: write about? 59 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: Well, this is the trials of being a gossip writer. 60 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: But when you get into gossip, how do you actually 61 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 2: get into gossip writing? 62 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: And how do you write about things? And obviously they 63 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: have friends whill tell them stories and say don't print 64 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: this because it's about me, and then they choose to 65 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: print it about other people. 66 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 2: It'd be terrible. I might That's what I might parley 67 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 2: this into being a gossip. 68 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: You've taken the wrong end of this conversation, which is 69 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: that this was a bad thing to do. 70 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 2: Of course it is. Have you got anything you want 71 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 2: to share with our readers right now, Amanda? 72 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: I think they know what I'm thinking. Brendan