1 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome back to episode five of the back Row Seats. 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: I'm Bella, one of your hosts, and this is my 3 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: co host of course. This week we chat about all 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: the quarterfinal action, the osvs. Canada and where to now 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: for the Wallaroos. Bez our correspondent chat Steve A. Capani's 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:21,560 Speaker 1: long term partner Lyle, and the Wallaroos girls are in transit, 7 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: so no Wallaroos play interview this week. Len's catcher wouldn't 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: have been up to this week? Well, honestly, not much again, 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: same as last week. 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: You got it? 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 3: I knowing something more than that. 12 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: I know. I'm sorry, except I have started working again, 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: which has been really fun getting back into some work. 14 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,279 Speaker 1: So I work in disability. Nice hanging back out with 15 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,559 Speaker 1: my main boy Semi and his family. I don't even work. 16 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 1: I just go over to the house and have dinner, 17 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: have a few drinks and that's about it. But honestly, 18 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: not much again. 19 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 2: What about you? 20 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I've been working this whole time. I'm 21 00:00:53,680 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 4: actually carpenter, so and then grind never stops. 22 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 3: But I think it's. 23 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 4: Good for you to be back at work. Obviously, a 24 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 4: big layoff, a bit of a layoff, for you, but 25 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:07,960 Speaker 4: just obviously back in that week, back in that routine. Yeah, 26 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 4: on a sabbatical, not chosen, but work's good. Also, we 27 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 4: have the Santos Festival Rugby, Santos Festival of Rugby this weekend, 28 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 4: so I will be playing up in Narrabrie against the Reds, 29 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 4: So big weekend up there. 30 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 3: So just been training for that and yeah. 31 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: Excited any listeners from Narrabray get down to the game. 32 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:34,000 Speaker 3: Yeah. Friday there's going to be a street party. 33 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 4: The whole main road is shut down and there's both 34 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: men's and women's team and nine of nineteens will be 35 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 4: there and big festival and then on Saturday there's three 36 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 4: games of rugby, so we're the main event. I'm not 37 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 4: sure what time, but if you look on socials, I'm 38 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 4: sure you'll be able to find it. 39 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: Speaking of rugby, let's jump straight into the recap of 40 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: the quarterfinals of the Women's Rugby World Cup. 41 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 4: Black Ferns defeated South Africa forty six seventeen in what 42 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 4: was an thrall in first half. Canada beat the Wallaroos 43 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 4: forty six to five, which we'll get into later on 44 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 4: the podcast. 45 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: France held off Ireland in tough conditions to win eighteen 46 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: to thirteen, and the Red Roses make it thirty one 47 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: wins in a row beating Scotland forty to eight. Now 48 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: let's talk about the wallaroo So all the chat leading 49 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: into this game was can we upset the world number 50 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: two Canada? Can the Wallaroos finally put that eighty minute 51 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: performance they've been searching for on the Canadians, And to 52 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: be quite frank, it was a pretty ordinary performance from 53 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: the Wallaroos. Horse How did you kind of see the 54 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: first half play out? 55 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:38,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean world number two verse world number eight, 56 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 4: and it probably showed no question in the girl's effort. 57 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 3: But yeah, I just thought they got outclassed. 58 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 4: Some stats that Canada produced seven hundred and fifty three meters, 59 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 4: carried massive eighteen offloads, forty nine defenders, beaten Asia Hogan Rochester, 60 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 4: who scored the opening try in three minutes for an 61 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 4: impressive ninety four meters. And one of the unsung heroes 62 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 4: of this Canadian team is the tight head prop the 63 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 4: League of Men in and she had a huge game, 64 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 4: making sixteen GameLine carries. So yeah, I don't know how 65 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,239 Speaker 4: the Black fans are going to stop this Canadian team, 66 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,119 Speaker 4: but we'll talk about that later. But yeah, against Australia, 67 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 4: I just thought, yeah, that was that was my initial Yeah. 68 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,720 Speaker 1: I think the four tries in the first half really 69 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: really hurt the Aussies and again they had to defend 70 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: for a lot of phases. I'm not too sure how 71 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: many tackles they ended up making. It one and twenty 72 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: five that is insane. So I think by the time 73 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: the Aussies got the ball, we were just so gassed 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: from defending that our attack was really flat. We kind 75 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: of looked like we had no direction. We didn't really 76 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: know where we were going. We're putting in a few 77 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: kicks they were probably bit unnecessary, but yeah, I mean 78 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: asking to make that many tackles against a strong Canadian 79 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,440 Speaker 1: team and then to try and produce some sort of 80 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: attackers is a huge task and a huge ask from 81 00:03:58,280 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: the Wallaroos. 82 00:03:59,240 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 83 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 4: I do think it starts with the first up collision, 84 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 4: Like Canada were able to get the ball wide because 85 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 4: they were winning that first up collision, like Delikamen and 86 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 4: with sixteen game line carries, She's doing the work to 87 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 4: get that ball wide, And I think that that's a 88 00:04:15,800 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 4: big was a big. 89 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess issue or whatever the word is for 90 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 3: the Waller ruis Is wouldn't. 91 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 4: Have good game line carries and we defended a lot 92 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 4: and we seem to be making that a bit of 93 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 4: a I guess pattern. 94 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought that when Tea. 95 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,840 Speaker 4: Heinz came on, she created some spark around attack and 96 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 4: then she went to nine in the second half, and 97 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 4: we did see that Ruxby really increase. But I thought 98 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 4: she came on for Ptolomlika in the first half. Taller 99 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 4: had a mouthguard, Hia, so she. 100 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 3: Had to go off. 101 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 4: And I actually thought that Tea really straight in the 102 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 4: attack and looked a bit promising, But they did decide 103 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 4: to bring Taller. 104 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 3: Back on. 105 00:04:57,720 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 2: There. 106 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, the the Walleries were. 107 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:04,119 Speaker 4: Fourteenth in rock speed in the competition compared to Canada, 108 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 4: who's number one for rock speed. So I mean quick 109 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 4: ball is key for those stats. 110 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 3: I guess. 111 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 4: But yeah, again, missing that go forward with Flicky Beheaver 112 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 4: on the bench just another another question. 113 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: Annabel Cody another one. 114 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 4: Another ball carrier wasn't in the twenty three this week, 115 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 4: and we were made to defend so much. 116 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 3: By the time we did get the ball, we were gassed, 117 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: so I. 118 00:05:31,600 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: Think that's been a common theme across the last four 119 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 4: weeks is our d has been really good until it 120 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 4: hasn't been, and then when we do get the opportunity 121 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 4: to attack, we're absolutely cooked. 122 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 1: I think, just also on the attack, like we saw 123 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: Desi Miler score with her first touch of the ball 124 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: and then we didn't really see the ball come out. 125 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 1: And I think one thing I did notice about the 126 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: Canadians is the way they were defending. They changed, so 127 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: they were doing that rush D that we've seen them 128 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: do outside in closing and they managed to get some 129 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: depth and actually really create some space for Desi out wide. 130 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: But then we saw Canada really start to be more passive. 131 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,840 Speaker 1: So like a cold defense, they got up, they fanned out, 132 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: they gave Ozzie the sideline. So what they really needed 133 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: was that first carry sure doesn't matter, but the second 134 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: third phase really square up, really play at the line 135 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: and engage those defenders and create those create those opportunities 136 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 1: for our wingers out wide. But we just kind of 137 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: seemed to run sideways. Really we didn't really adjust to 138 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: I guess how Canada was defending, and it was just 139 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: really simple for Canada to go up and out and 140 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: use the sideline as another defender, and I think you 141 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: saw it with a couple of Mayors touches. She was 142 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: kind of run out of space and really had no 143 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 1: other option other than to use the sideline and go out, 144 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 1: which I'm sure is frustrating for the wingers, but yeah, 145 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 1: I think they really need That was probably the game 146 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 1: where they really needed to just throw the ball around, 147 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 1: throw something Canada hasn't seen from the Aussies, and yeah, 148 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: I think they will be hugely disappointed in that hindsight whatever. 149 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 4: But I just think with that first up punch and 150 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 4: that straightening, like they had Tab on the bench, and 151 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 4: like credit to Percy plou for coming back, but like, 152 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: was she ready? 153 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: Was she one hundred percent? You know they had Boo 154 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: on the bench. 155 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: Who pre World Cup in the packed four, et cetera. 156 00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 4: The test matches before World Cup, she was playing really well. 157 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 3: She was carrying the ball really hard. 158 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 4: You know, she was coming off the back of scrums 159 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 4: and attracting defenders. So I just think that, you know, 160 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: I'm not the coach again, but yeah, I just think 161 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 4: some really interesting selections and you know it's super hard 162 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 4: and you got thirty. 163 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: Two people there, and everyone's putting their hand up and 164 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: wants to play. And I haven't watched much of the training. 165 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: I got taken off the huddle. But anyway, it's all good. 166 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure they trained really hard and it's they probably 167 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: didn't reflect in the games on the weekend. But yeah, 168 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: so where too kind of now for the Aussies, I 169 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: guess after this World Cup they would they have a win, 170 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: a win, a draw, two losses. So what would you say, 171 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: that's a pass mark making the quarters? I guess I. 172 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 4: Think that for me, like I give it a pass, 173 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 4: but you want to see improvement year on year. And 174 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 4: in twenty twenty two, which was the last World Cup, 175 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 4: we made the quarters and got beaten by world number one. 176 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 4: So they made the quarters and got beaten by world 177 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 4: number two. So you know, like it is a past 178 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 4: making the quarters. The next thing is the next home 179 00:08:28,440 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 4: World Cup. We need to be making the semis full stop. 180 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 4: The semi is that is a must. You have to 181 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 4: be in that semi final and we all know once 182 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,199 Speaker 4: you're there and anything can happen. But I think first 183 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 4: things first is we need a new coach. Well, joe 184 00:08:42,960 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 4: yapp has stepped down from the program, after two years, 185 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 4: so finding a new coach and new coaching staff has 186 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 4: to be on the top of ras to do list. 187 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 4: Then I just think this is such a crucial time. 188 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 4: What they need to be looking at is a super 189 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 4: experienced coach, someone who's coached at the highest level. And 190 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: I am not I don't need it to be a woman. 191 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 4: I want the best person for the job. I don't 192 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 4: care if that is Adore anything, whatever it is. We 193 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 4: just need the best coach. 194 00:09:11,920 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 3: That it can be. 195 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 4: They need to get the money that they've just got 196 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 4: from the lines and they need to put that out 197 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 4: there and they need to hire the best coach available, 198 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 4: or the best coach that's even coaching already, anyone, whoever 199 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 4: it is, and that coach needs to come in with 200 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 4: the whole staff and they need to be all on 201 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 4: the same page and they need to be locked in 202 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 4: for the next four years. 203 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: Yeah. I was going to say that they need to. 204 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 4: Be doing every single thing to take this team to 205 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 4: the final in the twenty twenty nine World Cup. So 206 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 4: for me, the first thing that needs to happen when 207 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 4: they land on Wednesday today is Boom, get fit on 208 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 4: the ground, get in that room and find a coach. 209 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: I know a coach who's available but might be going 210 00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: to the NRL. Michael Cheker, what are you up to? No, 211 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,040 Speaker 1: But it's so important that four years. You mentioned, like, 212 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,559 Speaker 1: I've been in the world since what twenty nineteen, and 213 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: I've had three different head coaches over six or seven years. 214 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: You just need consistency. We had one for two years, 215 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,680 Speaker 1: another one for two years, and now Joe's been here 216 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: for two years. We need someone for four years to 217 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: provide that consistency. Everyone is on the same page. We're 218 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: going to figure out how we play, and it's going 219 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: to take four years to really build that and get 220 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 1: into that World Cup final at home. Imagine playing at 221 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: Alliant's World Cup final. I was verse, England. I was verse, 222 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: I don't really give a shit. Who just you want 223 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: to be playing in those finals at a home World Cup. 224 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: And I think the. 225 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 4: Other thing on that is that, like we need to 226 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 4: stop bleeding players. We have the players now, we've we're 227 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 4: up to a lot of caps, We've capped a lot 228 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 4: of young girls, which great, let's stop, let's stop doing that. 229 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 4: Let's focus on what we've got and let's make them really, 230 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 4: really good. And I think the other thing is like 231 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 4: a lot of people like, oh, we need the sevens girls, 232 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 4: We need the sevens girls in the team. 233 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 3: No disrespect to sevens girls. Amazing athletic. 234 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 4: They're amazing athletes because they train full time and they 235 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 4: have a full time coach and they have had Tim 236 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 4: Walsh for ten yea ten Tim Walsh has been the 237 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 4: coach of that team. They all know the identity of 238 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,320 Speaker 4: what they're working for. It doesn't chop and change. It 239 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 4: is the same thing in week out, year and year out. 240 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, same core. It's probably the same as Wartars, right, 241 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: like our Super Rugby team, we have had the same 242 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: core group of girls since Wartars inception in twenty eighteen. 243 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: Super Rugby is inception sorry in twenty eighteen. So that 244 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,199 Speaker 1: consistency is so important and really something to build off. 245 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:33,840 Speaker 1: And as you mentioned, like we have a lot of 246 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: players now that are really capped there in those twenty caps. 247 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: Is it experience or is it just a cap? You 248 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like it's so hard to differentiate 249 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: the two. But I think in this current climate, the 250 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:48,959 Speaker 1: way Super w is going and how it's only five games, 251 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: you look at the other countries. Black Ferns Canada France Island, 252 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: they actually have a really good alignment of the sevens programs, 253 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: but that's because sevens isn't their main sport. Like in Australia, 254 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: Ossie sevens is the only full time rugby women's team 255 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: you can be a part of. So we only play 256 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: five games of Super W. How are you supposed to 257 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 1: get better? How the coach is supposed to get better 258 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: as well? Like it's actually quite frustrating year on year 259 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: out playing the same amount of games and you start 260 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: to get our best performances come semi final in the 261 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: final because we've already played four games beforehand. Like imagine 262 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: if we got to play ten games, it just would 263 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: make it would make rugby more enticing for people to 264 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: stay in because you look at league now they have 265 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: what twelve teams or yeah, twelve teams, top six make final. 266 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 1: It's just and we actually Super Rugby started before NRLW, 267 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 1: So to see NROLW go from strength to strength year 268 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: on year on and for Super W to stay the 269 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: exact same since its start in twenty eighteen, it's just frustrating, 270 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: Like how are you supposed to get better as a 271 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: rugby player when you're playing five games? A footy. Yeah, 272 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 1: a year, I think. 273 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 4: As what we'll give if we had a longer season, 274 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: it will give those sevens girls opportunity to come and 275 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 4: to play. And I know that speaking with Maddy Levi 276 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 4: like she was she injured herself so she was unavailable 277 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 4: for Super w and she was like, I'm underdone for fifteens. 278 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 3: I've never played in my life. 279 00:13:12,840 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: I don't want to rock up to a World Cup 280 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 4: and have not no idea, but you know, be underdone. 281 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 4: So if we have a longer season in that and 282 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 4: I think the other thing we can speak about that 283 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 4: all day. But the other thing is I think that 284 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 4: we really need an under twenties program, and I think 285 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 4: that it should be oh you see a line, but 286 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 4: also separate under girls that are under twenty are They're different, 287 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 4: they're young women and they're growing. You look at those 288 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 4: teams at the moment, Cana's thirty seven year old scoring 289 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 4: tries against us like it's girls against women, and it's 290 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 4: it's hard. You know, every other country has an under 291 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 4: twenties women's program and we don't, and we. 292 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 3: Really need to. We really need to get that going. 293 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 1: So back on that as well. So right now in 294 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: England they have a competition called Cup, so they're still 295 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: playing year round that they go back to the Prem 296 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:01,040 Speaker 1: in I think the first game October twenty fifth, But 297 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: right now their squads are big enough to keep playing rugby, 298 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: so they play rugby year round. So obviously they're going 299 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: to be so dominant, and I know a lot of 300 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: Canadians and USA and the Scottish and Scottish girls they 301 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: play in that prem comp But I think it's a 302 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: model that Super Rugby can really try and start to copy, 303 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: I guess in the coming years. Because they have academies. 304 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: They have an under eighteen's academy, whether it's aligned with 305 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: the university the clubs are at or not. They invest 306 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: money into it. They have full time coaches like I 307 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 1: played for Harlequinns, so I've seen it first hand the 308 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: importance of having that academy and it's a real pathway 309 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: into the top team. But they have fully a full, 310 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,760 Speaker 1: fully funded head coach, support staff. They have games. They 311 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: play games like ten games a year whatever. I don't 312 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: know how many games it is, but yeah, I guess 313 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 1: just having that extra competition to keep the girls playing rugby, 314 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: because I've done fuck all since super w Like, seriously, 315 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: I played two club games and then that's it. I've 316 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: played seven games of footy this year essentially. 317 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, so well and anyway, you could go on about moving. 318 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we move on to the lens. Look the 319 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 1: game changing moment this week. The game changing moment came 320 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: from the quarterfinal matchup of New Zealand vers South Africa. 321 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 1: And firstly, I think it's just really cool that the 322 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: New Zealand men the All Blacks versus South African men's 323 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: team the spring box on the same day. Back to 324 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: the game changing moment, which came when the Springbok women 325 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 1: did a fifteen player lineup and lifted one of the 326 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: smallest players on the field. They're little nine, Nardine Rus. 327 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: The whole team was then involved in the mall which 328 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: saw them drive forward into the twenty two and after 329 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 1: a number of phases, the powerful center scored their second 330 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: try of the match on the stroke of half time 331 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: and it was ten sorry, it was ten all at 332 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: half time. 333 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 4: Rassi Erasmus would be very proud of the South African 334 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 4: women's creativity. He is the spring men's coach and he's 335 00:15:55,400 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 4: known for his innovation and obviously it must flow through 336 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 4: through the bok because it was unreal. I've never seen 337 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 4: that before. You know, backs normally talk about getting in 338 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 4: them all the little nine, I've. 339 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: Got more neck. No that she probably has got more 340 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 3: neck because yeah. 341 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: It was unreal. It was a red feet were on 342 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: the ground. 343 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 4: It was no, it was very unexpected, but it was amazing. 344 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 4: They also did a more off a scrum. They picked 345 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 4: down the blind and they did a more. Yeah, so 346 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 4: I don't know how it works. That's why I'm confused. 347 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, it's just they're just innovative. 348 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 4: They obviously are coming up against the Black Ferns like 349 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 4: holders of the World Cup at the moment, so you've 350 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 4: got to try something different. And I thought it was 351 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 4: really cool and it was. It was awesome to see. 352 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: Obviously they ended up going down, but come twenty twenty 353 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 4: nine the Australian World Cup, I think that they are 354 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: going to be a powerhouse. The fact that they made 355 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 4: the quarterfinals is a huge testament to those women. They're 356 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 4: so inspiring. It's amazing to see them get the recognition 357 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 4: they deserve. And now they just need the backing support 358 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 4: of the South African Union to give them a few 359 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,959 Speaker 4: more years A professional environment, and they'll be unstoppable. I 360 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 4: also just think I haven't been to South Africa and 361 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: I don't know all the ins and outs, but I 362 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 4: do know that it's a very divisive country and I 363 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 4: think for them as women to be doing something as 364 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 4: powerful as that will probably be a lot deeper than 365 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 4: rugby and probably a lot deeper than anything we could 366 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 4: understand or be part of. So amazing, amazing outcome for 367 00:17:30,440 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 4: them making the quarters first time, and yeah, if they 368 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,119 Speaker 4: keep locking in, I think they'll be they'll be. 369 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, they also have a lot of new rugby fans, 370 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: I think the like obviously South African men's team are 371 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 1: hugely successful and we can kind of see that trickle down. 372 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: When we played World XB two over in South Africa 373 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: last year, there was a massive crowd just for our 374 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: women's game, and see Calisi was in the stands. And 375 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: I think what he's also done for women's rugby in general, 376 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: Like he is such an advocate, he's a voice, he 377 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: watches the games, he knows. He's not just that I'm 378 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: going to post this on my social media and hopefully 379 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: get some views because that's what they want me to do. No, 380 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,479 Speaker 1: he does it because he gives a shit and he 381 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: really cares about women's rugby, and for someone of his 382 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,640 Speaker 1: caliber to be so invested in it, I think it's 383 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,239 Speaker 1: huge for that country and obviously everything South Africa stands for. 384 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, the crowds they got at World XV two 385 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: for their South African games as I've played, that was 386 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: probably a bigger crowd than we've played in back here, 387 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,800 Speaker 1: and I was so you gotta be really cool to 388 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: see in the coming years. 389 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: Another week of Bez on tour, i'll correspondent. 390 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 4: Bez traveled to Bristol to watch the Wallaroos and chat 391 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,000 Speaker 4: to Eva Caphani's partner. 392 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,320 Speaker 2: Lyle time here today, I'm very excited to be joined 393 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: by Lyle. 394 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: Lyle tell usho you are. 395 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 5: My name is Lyle, and I am Eva's partner for 396 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 5: the last seven or eight years. 397 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,399 Speaker 2: Seven or eight. It's tough to say once you've been 398 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 2: to that stage, like it just becomes sometime, doesn't it. 399 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 5: Oh, the guys, you've been given me a bit of 400 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 5: stick and says, oh, I need to get my knee dirty. 401 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 5: O while I'm over here. 402 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: So have you had a ring? I plead the fifth 403 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: love that all right? 404 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: So let's talk about some pretty We are at a 405 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: pub at Bristol. 406 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: We are about to walk down to the game. 407 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 2: We're super stoked if you can speak to either right now, 408 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 2: what would you tell her? 409 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 5: Socks up? Make sure that you do at least ten 410 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 5: runs and break the name game down in the quarters? 411 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 3: Oh I love that, and tell me why quarters? 412 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 5: Because I'm an AFL man. 413 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: There's a bit of a. 414 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 2: Cheer from all the Victorian people around here and South 415 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 2: Australians obviously, so South Australia. 416 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 3: Where is your mob from. 417 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 5: Than aurunga nation? So with a leg that holds up 418 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:41,439 Speaker 5: Australia just like Italy. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, just 419 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,360 Speaker 5: a little bit smaller, just a little bit smaller. 420 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: Love that. 421 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 3: So you are over here supporting it. 422 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: The wonderful Eva, the eighty minute prop the outside back 423 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 2: trapped in a props body who we love dearly. Okay, 424 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 2: we're obviously going to win today. What are you going 425 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 2: to say first thing to her at full time today? 426 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 5: Firstly, congratulation, stopped crying and everybody back home is so 427 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 5: fucking proud of you. 428 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:08,720 Speaker 2: Absolute fuso lutely they are, and sorry for throwing but 429 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 2: here we are and so just finally like, on a 430 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 2: score of one to ten, how do you feel about 431 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 2: Horse and Bello's podcast ten? 432 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,400 Speaker 5: It's pretty funny. I'm actually sending it to my whole 433 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 5: boy so that you can actually learn about the games. 434 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: Sank kilder Man out higher and just follows Afil, but 435 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 5: he's kind of been turned on TV lately and he 436 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 5: does another difference between seven's, fifteen's and rugby league. 437 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 2: There is a rumor that Even broke a couch in 438 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 2: an apartment that she lived in when she was playing 439 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: for the Tars. 440 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 3: Can you confirm or deny? 441 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 5: I remember this day very vividly. I was at work 442 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 5: and I was wondering, like why am I getting so 443 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 5: many phone calls? And I thought somebody had died. So 444 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 5: I was prepping myself and she's crying hysterically and she goes, 445 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 5: I just made breakfast. I sat on the lounge and 446 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 5: it just broke. 447 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: And she is like, I found it an IQ and 448 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,679 Speaker 1: I think I've just ordered it. Is that okay? 449 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 5: I'm like, why are you asking me if if you 450 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 5: already purchased it? 451 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: Another great chat from bez Lyle is definitely one of 452 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 4: the girl's favorites. He's just a ripper bloke and by 453 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 4: all accounts, I reckon that knee is getting dirty soon. 454 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: I wonder if staying on in Europe, could you think 455 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: they are I think they're staying on, and I think 456 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: there might be Eva's going to come back with some 457 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: extra luggage. 458 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, she has got some pretty messed up fingers. 459 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 4: She breaks a finger, Like I reckon every tour she 460 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,640 Speaker 4: breaks a finger. Her fingers are a little bit mangled, mangled, 461 00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 4: but hey, nothing a big old rin can't cover up. 462 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: Come on, Lyle, get down on brother, on your knee, brother, Okay. 463 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: So preview of the semifinals, we've got Canada verse Black 464 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:52,199 Speaker 1: Ferns and then England versus France. I think this is 465 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,199 Speaker 1: very poetic that these teams are reversing each other. The 466 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 1: top four countries all making semi finals, probably as expected 467 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: if you're a rugby watch up. But England versus France 468 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: it always comes down to those two and six nations, 469 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,120 Speaker 1: and then Canada versus Black Ferns. With the last two 470 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: games they played against each other. Canada beat them for 471 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: the first time ever in twenty twenty four, and their 472 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: most recent game in pack four ended in a draw. 473 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, Canada ver's black ferns. 474 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 4: I think it's going to be really close, and I 475 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 4: honestly think Canada are going to win. 476 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: I just I think thereforeward pack. It just gives me goosebumps. 477 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 4: Watching the speed was just unbelievable on the weekend and 478 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 4: a love of our sisters across the ditch, But I 479 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:39,160 Speaker 4: really think Canada is just hissing on a whole other level. 480 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think that France will have a really 481 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,840 Speaker 4: hard job beating England, but we didn't really see them 482 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 4: get out of second gear versus Ireland. They do have 483 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 4: a lot of inexperienced players playing their first World Cup, 484 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 4: which is rare for them. 485 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 3: And we haven't really seen that French flair you know that. 486 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 1: Saw a little bit down in Exeter but playing at 487 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 1: Sandy Parker's ship. Old, Sorry you didn't knowledge my French? 488 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,200 Speaker 1: What did you say? I'm not sure what that means 489 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: as you were. 490 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 4: It means. 491 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,719 Speaker 3: No, it's people will know. 492 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: Tell me because you don't even know. 493 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: You actually can't explain it. 494 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 4: Google it, okay, anyway, it means the French flair means 495 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 4: it actually translates to I don't know what. 496 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: Which is the flair? Yeah, which is the French flair. Yeah, 497 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. They didn't really get out of second gear. 498 00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: But credit to Ireland they also there was something a 499 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: bit controversial when I watched that game, if a wayfar, 500 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: she came back. Finally, we've been missing her all World Cup. 501 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: She came back instrumental in Irelands. They were leading for 502 00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: the first what sixty five seventy minutes of the game, 503 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 1: but she got bitten on the arm and they replayed 504 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 1: it and you could see that she got bit or 505 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: the mouth was on the arm. I don't know, something 506 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 1: happened she said to the ref shoulder and nothing came 507 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: from it. And I saw Stacy Flood, I think come 508 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,560 Speaker 1: out in a press conference and say something about it. 509 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: But I mean game's debt of very now. 510 00:24:02,640 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, biting is just a no no. 511 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 4: I also just don't. I would just never think to 512 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,399 Speaker 4: do that. I'm too busy talking at people. 513 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: But yeah, i'd like, what is the TMO there for? 514 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Like they replayed it multiple 515 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: times on the screen, I'm sure, and there was a 516 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 1: complaint to the referee, so I'm not too sure how 517 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: that works. Anyways, Lucky we're not refs and TMO. 518 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think though it was a really good game. 519 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 4: I think that Wayfer made a massive difference. I think 520 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 4: that if she was coming back from injury, this is 521 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 4: the Island number seven. If she had played the whole 522 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 4: World Cup, they would have. 523 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, they had a great game plan against the French. 524 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 1: They slowed it down. They slowed it down at the source, 525 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: which was their big carries. They chopped tackled. Now number three. 526 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 1: I don't know her name, sorry, but I think she 527 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 1: probably played eighty minutes the Island tighthead prop. She was 528 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,840 Speaker 1: unreal and every time off set piece she was the 529 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: first one to get around the corner. And I just 530 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: thought it was insane the amount of carries she had 531 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: and her impact on the team. 532 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think England, Yeah, England, just they're so 533 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 4: dominant through their set piece. Scotland did do a good 534 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 4: job to explose some of England's rushing defense. So may 535 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 4: suit the French, as we know they love to throw 536 00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 4: those offloads. 537 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,640 Speaker 3: But I think that England will have it over them. 538 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 4: But the game of the week this week will be 539 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 4: Canada verse the Black Ferns. There's only two games to 540 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 4: choose from, so maybe just watch them both. 541 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 3: But I do I think Canada verse Black Ferns. 542 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, the way Canada have been playing, we've touched on them. 543 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm fan going over their forward pack. They're 544 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: just they're very hard to stop. And the Black Ferns 545 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 1: have had really slow starts to their games, but once 546 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:42,399 Speaker 1: they get going as well, they are also hard to stop. 547 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,159 Speaker 1: And I think they do play very similar. They like 548 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: to throw lots offloads that high risk, high reward kind 549 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: of vibe. I mean, I would hate to be the 550 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: head coach of both of these teams due to their 551 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: high error rate, but they make up for it because 552 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 1: when it pays off, it really pays off. But yeah, 553 00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: they like to play that expansive rugby. They don't kick 554 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: the ball much. It's going to be a great game 555 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: score prettiction. Honestly, I think the game might end in 556 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: a draw. Okay, so what do what you should probably 557 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: have looked at. What comes in a semi final. 558 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 3: Will have to be extra. 559 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: It's not golden point, like, what is it fifty to 560 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 1: five minutes each way? 561 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,199 Speaker 4: All it's ten it's normally ten minutes each way, and 562 00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 4: then gold and then it's it's a kickoff so you 563 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 4: literally stand in front of the goals and you have 564 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,680 Speaker 4: a conversion off and but it moves right. 565 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: I would be on the list, you probably would be, 566 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: it'd be number one. But the goalkicks they all move 567 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: right like one from it, we need to get some 568 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: detail on this. Hopefully it doesn't end a drawer. But 569 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: I mean, for the sake of it. 570 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 4: I think that Canada will win, and I think that 571 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: it'll be it's crazy. I think it'll be a crazy game. 572 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think Canada will win. But the only 573 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 4: thing from that is if they do win, we're talking 574 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 4: hypothetically here. 575 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 3: Will they have a hangover coming into the final? Whereas 576 00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 3: with the Black Ferns. If the Black Ferns win, boom, 577 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 3: they used to that. They're in that final. 578 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 4: They're locked in and they've done that and we'll have 579 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,840 Speaker 4: to tune in next week. Where do you think the 580 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 4: game will be won for Canada or New Zealand. 581 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: I think for Canada they just need to keep doing 582 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: what works, don't shy away from it. Black Ferns will 583 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: their first three defenders really like to rush up and 584 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,199 Speaker 1: try and stop and chop the ball carrier. But I 585 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: think English, sorry Canada are really skillful. They can throw 586 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: those tip passes and we've seen them play a bit 587 00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: more expansive this tournament. They are getting the ball to 588 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: the edges, they are using their back line a lot more. 589 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 1: I think Flow Simmons the thirteen. She is a seventh player, 590 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 1: but she's played fifteen's and she's unreal. She burned Aussie 591 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 1: a lot on the edges and really unlocked her back line. 592 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,679 Speaker 1: So I think if they can get the ball in 593 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: her hands after some of those strong carries up the middle, 594 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 1: they can get some payout wide. And Yeah, I don't know, 595 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:48,680 Speaker 1: it's very the way they. 596 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: Think New Zealand. 597 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,400 Speaker 4: I think, first of all, the big thing is that 598 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: they are New Zealand, so I think that they have 599 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 4: the upperhand. As soon as they walk out onto the field. 600 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,120 Speaker 4: They just got that. Yeah just got that or about them. 601 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 4: I guess that is. But I think the thing that 602 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 4: when New Zealand will win it is that it's second nature. 603 00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 4: They don't have to think they've been there, done that, 604 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,440 Speaker 4: They've played in the big games. They've all played in 605 00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,159 Speaker 4: the big game since they're in their backyards and they 606 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 4: thought it was a big game. They just know how 607 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,400 Speaker 4: to know how to do it, so I think it'll 608 00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 4: be a really crazy good game. 609 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: The experience of rue Dumont. She's a World Rugby Player 610 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: of the Year. She's insane, She's going from strength to strength. 611 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 1: I think her leadership you could really see it come 612 00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: to light against South Africa because they were down or 613 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: was a drawer at halftime and I think I don't 614 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: know what was said to them in the shed a 615 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: half time. I think they got a bit of a 616 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: rev up and to hold the ball. Probably a few 617 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: swear words in there. But yeah, when they hold the ball, 618 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: they are so dangerous. And yeah, I don't know. I 619 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: think maybe they have a bit too much star power 620 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: as well. Now I'm swinging more towards black fans. I 621 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 1: don't know. 622 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 3: Oh, here we go back for back. 623 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 4: For just one thing, I wanted to say, well done, Congratulations. 624 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 3: To the Wallerioes girls. We are still your biggest fans. 625 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,960 Speaker 4: Obviously, it's home time for you guys now and we 626 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 4: can't wait to see you. 627 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 3: But for everyone listening, make. 628 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 4: Sure you go follow these girls, get on the instagrams, 629 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 4: give them a like, you know, send them a message, 630 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 4: tell them how proud you are of them, because I 631 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 4: know that I'm souper proud of all of them, every 632 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 4: single one, every one to thirty two and the girls 633 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 4: that are left at home. So I just think, congratulations, girls, 634 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 4: You've done the country proud, done yourselves, proud in your families, 635 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 4: and you are officially. 636 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 3: World Cup players. Some of you two times, some of 637 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 3: you three times. 638 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 4: So well done. Congratulations and thanks forgiving us something. 639 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 3: To talk about. 640 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: Seriously, it's been great. We can't wait for some semi 641 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: final action of the Rugby World Cup. 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