1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's. 2 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 2: Margaret Court getting a Companion of the Order of Australia Award, 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 2: does it pass the pub test? 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,399 Speaker 3: So Margaret Court already has an Order of Australia award. 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: You got one of those. 6 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 3: I have an Order of Australia Award. The Companion of 7 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 3: the Order of Australia Award is awarded for eminent achievement 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 3: and merit of the highest degree in service to Australia 9 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 3: or humanity at large. Margaret Court, as we know, there 10 00:00:25,960 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 3: was a big skirmish to see how to celebrate her 11 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: fifty years of tennis or there's a big tennis celebration 12 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 3: for her last year. And in that a lot of 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,600 Speaker 3: her private views. She is now at Pentecostal Church minister. 14 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 3: She has very outspoken views against same sex marriage and 15 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 3: transgender people, really harmful, disparaging, ugly views. She's allowed to 16 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 3: that's how Australia goes. But is she allowed to be 17 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 3: recognized for them and rewarded for them? Is this what 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 3: we face a big dilemma in Australia. How are we 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 3: going to have a conversation of about same sex marriage 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: and transgender people. It doesn't help when people who were 21 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 3: so opposed to them, virulently and ugly opposed to them, 22 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 3: are rewarded in our society. 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: She said it as much in some of her preaching. 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 3: How absolutely she does. She's a pastor, she's a Pentecostal minister, 25 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 3: and she's. 26 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 2: Got in there because I sort of thought at first 27 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 2: off they're always, you know, picking on her a bit. 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: But then if you put yourself in the public domain 29 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: and when you look at it for service to Australia 30 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: or humanity at large, if you're saying that you want 31 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 2: a sub sect to be gone completely, we don't want 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,039 Speaker 2: homosexuals anymore, it's totally wrong, which he has said. Then 33 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 2: where's the humanity in that? 34 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 3: It's hard to understand this and they must have known 35 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 3: it would be a very controversial choice. And this isn't 36 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 3: about Margaret Court. She's allowed to have her views, but 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: should we be rewarding her. Someone said they took a 38 00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: photo of this outside her church last year. Our goals 39 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 3: one stop homosexuals brainwashing our children into homosexuality, to stop 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 3: their influence on our leaders, that this is their normal behavior. 41 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 3: Three come out and find how they have been winning 42 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 3: the battle for what you can do to help stop them. 43 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:14,519 Speaker 3: And if you you know, if you're a young homosexual 44 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 3: person or of any age dealing with any of this 45 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 3: transgender to have someone tell you that you don't belong 46 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 3: in society is absolutely dreadful. Huge suicide rates because of this. 47 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 3: And here we are rewarding someone for these outspoken views. 48 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 2: And when you look at that service to Australia or 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: humanity at large, where's the humanity you mat. 50 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 3: So look, what do you think? You know, you may 51 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: think she's well entitled to this. Margaret caught getting a 52 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 3: Companion of the Order of Australia award. An Order of 53 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 3: Australian Medal is one thing. A Companion of the Order 54 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 3: of Australian Medal is awarded for eminent achievement and merit 55 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 3: of the highest degree in service to Australia or humanity 56 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:56,080 Speaker 3: at large. So this isn't about her tennis career. This 57 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: is her service to Australia or humanity. She's a Pentecostal 58 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 3: church minister and has very outspoken views on same sex 59 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: marriage and transgender people. 60 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 2: And what did she say. 61 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 3: One of this is someone took a photo of this 62 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 3: at her church last year. Our goals stop homosexuals brainwashing 63 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 3: our children into homosexuality, stop their influence on our leaders 64 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 3: so that this is seen as normal behavior. Come and 65 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 3: find out how they've been winning the battle, what you 66 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 3: can do to help stop them. We know the suicide 67 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: rates of young transgender people and homosexual people is unacceptable. 68 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 3: This is a very vulnerable time for them, and to 69 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 3: have someone who is so virulently outspoken against them be 70 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 3: awarded this merit is extraordinary. 71 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 2: My sister is in a lesbian relationship, married with kids, 72 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 2: and when I hear stuff like that, you're less inclined 73 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 2: to talk about it. There was a time when I 74 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 2: was in the time of me doing this radio show. 75 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 2: I would never really mention that on air. Now I 76 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: feel that I can mention that on air because we're 77 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 2: moving forward. 78 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 3: Well, you'd like to think so this it seems so 79 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: flawed and out of step with the thinking I would 80 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 3: imagine of most Australians. No one is saying Margaret Court 81 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:09,119 Speaker 3: can't have these thoughts, but how dare she be rewarded 82 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 3: for them? So Margaret Court getting a Companion of the 83 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 3: Order of Australia. Does this pass the pub test? 84 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: No? I don't think it does. But However, you know, 85 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:18,599 Speaker 1: there are a lot of people who have a similar 86 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:21,880 Speaker 1: viewpoint as Margaret Court, and I think we're for the 87 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: birds of that. It doesn't because she's not a typical Ozzie. 88 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: She's complaining about things that are common in the current history, 89 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: not in the past. Yes, it does because I think 90 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: that she's allowed to have a view all by herself. No, 91 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:39,280 Speaker 1: it doesn't. But it's very sad that obviously they couldn't 92 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 1: find a better humanitarian out of everyone we have here 93 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 1: in Australia. Who does this woman know to get this 94 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: sort of thing she's just discussing? It does? It's mostly 95 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: on her pennis career, and feel are entitled to our 96 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: point of view. I don't agree with the views. I 97 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: think she's a very unkind lady. She says dreadful things 98 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: about homosexual people. I'm the proud father of a gay 99 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: boy who was wonderful things with his wife, and I'm 100 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: proud of him. 101 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 2: See, well that's what it's best. I don't understand where's 102 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: the humanity in that? And when she says something like that. 103 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: Jonesy and Amanda's generation