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Speaker 1: Already and this is the daily This is the Daily

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Speaker 2: Good morning and welcome to the Daily OS. It's Tuesday,

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Speaker 2: the fifth of March. I'm Sam, I'm Sarah. Australia's National

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Speaker 2: Rugby League or NRL has been one of the most

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Speaker 2: watched and most profitable sports in Australia for over one

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Speaker 2: hundred years now, and while it has grown in popularity

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Speaker 2: in the Pacific region, the UK and other parts of

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Speaker 2: the world, one country has always been seen as the

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Speaker 2: ultimate prize for the sport, the United States of America.

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Speaker 2: Years in the making, the major experiment by the NRL

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Speaker 2: to expand the game into the very lucrative US market

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Speaker 2: was held over last weekend, and while many are hailing

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Speaker 2: the first of a five year commitment a success, allegations

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Speaker 2: of racism on the field have dominated the headlines. You're

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Speaker 2: going to explain everything you need to know about the

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Speaker 2: incident and the wider NRL Vegas experiment in today's dep dive.

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Speaker 2: But firs Aara what is making headlines?

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Speaker 3: Two court cases related to the abandoned trial of Bruce Lherman,

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Speaker 3: who denies allegations he sexually assaulted former colleague and Liberal

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Speaker 3: staffer Britney Higgins have been settled this week. WA Senator

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Speaker 3: Nnda Reynolds will receive a ninety thousand dollars settlement from

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Speaker 3: the Act government after suing it for comments made by

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Speaker 3: its top prosecutor, Shane Drumgold that was during Lehman's criminal trial. Separately,

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Speaker 3: Drumgold also won a legal action yesterday that he brought

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Speaker 3: it after the head of an inquiry into his conduct

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Speaker 3: spoke to journalists while conducting the review.

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Speaker 2: The Australian Federal Police have allegedly intercepted a Russian money

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Speaker 2: laundering operation with more than two million dollars. The AFP said.

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Speaker 2: A forty nine year old man and forty six year

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Speaker 2: old woman fronted court in Queensland yesterday after police found

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Speaker 2: nearly two point five million dollars in cash and cryptocurrency,

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Speaker 2: which they allege was made through illegal activity. Investigators alleged

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Speaker 2: the pair had been depositing money in multiple ATMs across

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Speaker 2: Australia in bundles of less than ten thousand dollars to

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Speaker 3: Thousands of mourners have gathered in freezing conditions in Moscow

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Speaker 3: to visit the grave of Russian opposition leader Alexi Navalny.

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Speaker 3: The forty seven year old died in an Arctic penal

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Speaker 3: colony last month. His family, along with supporters and Western leaders,

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Speaker 3: have accused the Russian government of his murder. They have

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Speaker 3: denied any involvement in Navalney's death. Russian authorities arrested a

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Speaker 3: group of mourners before a funeral service over the weekend.

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Speaker 2: And Today's Good News UK singer songwriter Ray had a

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Speaker 2: record breaking night at the brit Awards, taking home the

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Speaker 2: most wins in a single night in the award's history.

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Speaker 2: The twenty six year old artist won six out of

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Speaker 2: seven Brits. She was nominated for overtaking the record for

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Speaker 2: the most wins in one night. It was previously jointly

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Speaker 2: held by Harry Style, Adele and Blur. The winner's list

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Speaker 2: also included Ozzie Carli Minou, who did the showy in

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Speaker 2: the ceremony, who receives the British music Industry's Global Pop

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Speaker 2: Icon Award.

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Speaker 3: Sam, I'm looking forward to you explaining why we're talking

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Speaker 3: about NRL and Vegas in the same sentence.

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Speaker 2: Sports.

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Speaker 3: I don't know sports, but I do know that I

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Speaker 3: don't think those two things are meant to be in

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Speaker 3: the same sentence. Before we get to that explainer, though,

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Speaker 3: all of the headlines over the weekend were about one incident,

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Speaker 3: and that was an incident of alleged racism. Can you

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Speaker 3: just take me through what happened before we get into

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Speaker 2: Racism and Australian sport have a long, unpleasant history, and

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Speaker 2: this does look to be another chapter in that. I

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Speaker 2: want to say upfront that the NRL judiciary is conducting

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Speaker 2: their official investigation into this incident, so there's not a

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Speaker 2: lot that we can confirm one hundred percent. But the

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Speaker 2: allegation at the moment is from a Broncos player whose

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Speaker 2: and he has claimed that Roosters forward Spencer Lenu called

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Speaker 2: over the weekend. Now you can hear in the television broadcast,

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Speaker 3: Obviously, great was up, but I've got to ask about

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Speaker 2: Your view what happened. N Nothing is just all funny.

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Speaker 2: what Broncos coach Kevin Walters told media when asked whether

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Speaker 2: Man was certain he heard a racist slur. I haven't

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Speaker 2: had a good chance. Well, actually no, yeah, he's out

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Speaker 3: They're looking at it, so I won't make any more

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Speaker 1: I've heard of it like you guys have. So there's

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Speaker 2: There was a particularly poignant moment in the commentary on

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Thurston said, this geat.

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Speaker 1: A little bit emotional about it that this day and

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Speaker 2: Allegedly saying what he said. So after coming here forty

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Speaker 2: Then there was a bit of a development over night

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Speaker 2: it's definitely going to be a closely watched case at

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Speaker 3: Definitely keep us updated on that. Obviously, we have to

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Speaker 3: as to what happened, and we won't speculate any further,

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Speaker 3: first off, the bat I do want to turn out

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Speaker 3: to begin with, Like, why were they there?

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Speaker 2: It is about the money, and can you explain that?

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Speaker 2: I guess, well, I guess by hosting the first round

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Speaker 2: Exactly. So the National Rugby League is predominantly made up

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Speaker 2: So it's worth about eighty billion US dollars a year.

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Speaker 2: go and the reason why really is that everything is

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Speaker 2: So with all of that being dangled in front of them,

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Speaker 2: the NRL signed a five year contract with Allegiance Stadium

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Speaker 2: and that's the stadium where the games will be hosted

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Speaker 2: in Vegas. So we've just had the first year of

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Speaker 3: That it'll be played there next year as well.

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Speaker 2: Two games of the first round, so there's normally about

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Speaker 2: they say they're going to rotate which four teams travel

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Speaker 3: A long time between innovations.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a huge innovation. I do want to stay

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Speaker 2: it certainly isn't by accident that the NRL has picked

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Speaker 2: allow it to be permissible. The Super which was only

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Speaker 3: You've highlighted two different elements there. There's this idea of

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Speaker 3: Why did they do it?

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Speaker 2: Or is it both? I'm sure there's different ways that

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Speaker 2: They really wanted to win Americans over a few weeks

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Speaker 1: Rugby league is football.

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Speaker 2: One quick other thing to mention it wasn't just American

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Speaker 3: So then is that considered a success If you're just

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Speaker 2: Spoken like a true sports fan, Zara, I mean, this

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Speaker 2: is really the question that's on everyone's lips now. And

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Speaker 2: was a huge success.

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Speaker 3: Shocking.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So they say that it's part of a five

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Speaker 2: But it didn't go perfectly. I mean, yes, we talked

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