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Speaker 1: It's a woman woody podcast, minis. But when you're in

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Speaker 1: a rush or just can't be bothered listening to them

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Speaker 1: blather on for half an hour.

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Speaker 2: I do want to talk about a signature ice cream

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Speaker 2: known as the Golden Gay Time, where there's currently a

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Speaker 2: petition online which is attracting a whole bunch of signatures

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Speaker 2: of support after a member of the l g B

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Speaker 2: ice cream be renamed because the word gay, the words

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Speaker 2: gay time are outdated. And yeah, so that's that's that's

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Speaker 2: that's really attracting a lot of heat from both sides.

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Speaker 2: And look, as a straight man who's never been with

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Speaker 2: someone of the same sex, I feel totally unqualified to

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Speaker 2: talk about this. So we brought in one of our producers,

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Speaker 2: missus Doubtfire is about to call her, who is happily

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Speaker 2: gave to another woman, very.

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Speaker 1: Very happily married to a beautiful woman called Megang.

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Speaker 2: All right, mate's brown pants on this show.

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Speaker 3: Now let's get down to it. Else, what's what's the

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Speaker 3: Do you agree with it?

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's a do you think it's offensive?

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Speaker 1: I'm not offended in the slightest and to be honest,

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Speaker 1: in the UK, if I haven't had an ice cream

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Speaker 1: named after my sexuality, I'd have been leaping for joy.

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Speaker 1: Imagine imagine my delight when we were landed in Australia

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Speaker 1: and he went to the ice cream section and there's

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Speaker 1: a Golden Gay Time available to buy.

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Speaker 3: I mean, wawe exception.

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Speaker 2: So is there any part of you that understands where

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Speaker 2: the concern or the offense is coming from.

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Speaker 1: I can understand that certain people may find it upsetting,

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Speaker 1: especially as we move so quickly and progress so quickly

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Speaker 1: in this day and age. From my side, in all

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Speaker 1: serious I do not find it offensive at all. I

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Speaker 1: actually think I actually see that name and that branding

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Speaker 1: as not a sexual reference to gay people, or I

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Speaker 1: see it as a very happy, happily branded ice cream.

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Speaker 1: Does that make sense for me? I see it as

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Speaker 1: a golden happy time or a golden joyous.

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Speaker 2: Time, which is obviously what it's intended as well. The

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Speaker 2: word gay, I mean, well, I don't know if it's

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Speaker 2: originally or not, but obviously a long time ago that

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Speaker 2: was very much supplemented instead of the word happy, you're

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Speaker 2: having a gay time, You're having a happy time. You know.

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Speaker 3: The question is though, because I agree with all that

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Speaker 3: the word gay, there's a definition there that is joyous.

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Speaker 3: Time is all hidden on right now. But the fact

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Speaker 3: of the matter is, if there are a lot of

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Speaker 3: people saying, well, I actually am offended by the name,

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Speaker 3: regardless of how it was initially intended Devil's Advocate, isn't

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Speaker 3: that hard to change the name?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's and that's really like the issue with all

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Speaker 2: of this stuff, isn't it is At the end of

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Speaker 2: the day, if you've got somebody who is saying that

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Speaker 2: they're offended by it, getting into whether or not it

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Speaker 2: is offensive or not, it's kind of a moot point

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Speaker 2: because you've got somebody stick in their hand. I'm saying, well, actually, no,

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Speaker 2: this is really irking me.

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Speaker 3: So there have been some event a lot of changes

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Speaker 3: recently with other confectionery or other food. Redskins have changed

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Speaker 3: their name. I'm sorry, I've forgotten what they've changed too,

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Speaker 3: but they've changed the name, and Coon Cheese has recently

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Speaker 3: changed as well. And you've got the same argument there,

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Speaker 3: which is Coon is a family name, that that's why

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Speaker 3: it was called coon cheese. But because people have been offended,

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Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, fron By by the name of that

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Speaker 3: cheese they're changing. I think it's a cheers cheese now,

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Speaker 3: which which again, it's not about are you offended on

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Speaker 3: not offen that, It's more about, well some people are so.

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Speaker 2: Yes, tell me if it's so funny that the caller call,

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Speaker 2: I've got a producer in the studio. She's pointing at

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Speaker 2: the screen, going take the calls. She's in the Why

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Speaker 2: we don't they producers in the box? I'le you're gay.

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Speaker 2: What do you reckon about the gold in gay time?

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Speaker 3: I think the world's gone mad?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right, okay, we literally like fair enough, you know,

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Speaker 2: like gay and lesbians like putting in all this protesting

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Speaker 2: and things like that for us, like for our people

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Speaker 2: to be able to get married, which is all fun

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Speaker 2: and dandy, But I think the world has.

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Speaker 1: Gone mad since that has passed.

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Speaker 3: And you know, you can go and do it.

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Speaker 1: Like to trees.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And it maybe offensive to aboriginals, yes, but it's a

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Speaker 1: gentleman's last name.

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Speaker 2: It's part of what the guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like, it's just yeah, I think the world's gone enough.

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Speaker 2: It is interesting. Yeah, thanks Nicole, Yeah, thank you so much, Nicole.

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Speaker 2: It really I think it still has to be a

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Speaker 2: case by case basis. With these things, I don't think

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Speaker 2: we can apply a broad rule to you should have

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Speaker 2: to change because for me, the difference is here, Like

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Speaker 2: with redskins, for example, right, redskin is a derogatory term.

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Speaker 2: Rights racially, it's a derogatory term, right, and all the

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Speaker 2: connotations that go with that are awful. Right, So that

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Speaker 2: should be wiped out. The word gay previously was actually

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Speaker 2: just a word that was used. It actually has it

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Speaker 2: still has another running definition as a nice thing.

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? It's not it's not

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Speaker 2: a derogatory term for a gay person. It's not like

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Speaker 2: a you know, golden fag time or something like that.

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Speaker 2: But do you know what I mean, which is derogatory?

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Speaker 1: You're all right? And to that point, it's maybe it's

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Speaker 1: time to move into a time where the word gay

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Speaker 1: isn't referenced or thought of as a derogatory word or

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Speaker 1: a word that we shouldn't be using or can't be

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Speaker 1: placed in that in that sphere like it's it's not

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Speaker 1: a derogatory word. It's a lovely word and it's got

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Speaker 1: two meanings, So we can move it forward without changing everything.

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Speaker 2: Interesting thanks for thanks for your point of view.

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Speaker 1: I enjoy your golden hairtime.

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