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Speaker 3: Love this hoodiety supremacy always.
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Speaker 2: Sydney brand. We're talking about gas lighting, but kind of
Speaker 2: in a fun way, but then it gets a bit serious.
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you how to not avoid being
Speaker 2: gas lit, but throw the gas lighting back onto the
Speaker 2: gas lighter. Then I'm going to share a personal story.
Speaker 2: I'm going to add a trigger warning.
Speaker 4: We talk about eating disorders ever so slightly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing too triggering, but the youth of the word fatty,
Speaker 2: Yeah that's true, all right?
Speaker 3: For what said twice, maybe even three times let's get
Speaker 3: to it.
Speaker 1: Flex and Frooms.
Speaker 4: FLEXI, we are talking about Heartbreak High. This week.
Speaker 2: We are on our Heartbreak High set. We've got desks,
Speaker 2: we got pens.
Speaker 3: We talked about the high school. No heartbreak though missed up.
Speaker 4: Oh true Heartbreak High.
Speaker 2: My heart wasn't really broken in school, so yeah, I
Speaker 2: couldn't speak to that, but I haven't a made the
Speaker 2: Arshalt's one of our favorite segments here on the Flex
Speaker 2: and Froom Show. I'm just going to speak it out.
Speaker 2: Am I the asshole for auditioning for the role in
Speaker 2: the school play that my bestI wants?
Speaker 3: Whoa brutal.
Speaker 2: This one's from Hannah, my brist friend. Laura and I
Speaker 2: are really into drama and performing. Our school has just
Speaker 2: announced a new school play and the lead role gets
Speaker 2: awarded a scholarship to a short course at a really
Speaker 2: prestigious performing art school.
Speaker 4: Holy hell.
Speaker 2: Laura has said that the role is basically already hers
Speaker 2: and will be mad if anyone tries to go up
Speaker 2: against her for I don't want to fight with her
Speaker 2: for it, so I told her I'm auditioning for another role.
Speaker 2: I can't help but feel like she's being selfish, so
Speaker 2: I secretly auditioned for it without her knowing, and we
Speaker 2: find out the results next week. Am I the asshole
Speaker 2: for hiding this from her?
Speaker 3: Not buss babe, energy babe, go off quine, Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 3: do what you want. I love I love a subtle
Speaker 3: grass cut, but also.
Speaker 4: Playing the fire hunt.
Speaker 3: Off the jump. I think it's tricky to dib something
Speaker 3: that is not subject to your control. Literally, so like
Speaker 3: the friend that DIBs it just might not be good
Speaker 3: enough to get the role anyway, And then, you know,
Speaker 3: wouldn't you want it to go to your friend if
Speaker 3: it's not you? I get that for sure. I think, though,
Speaker 3: if the friend who has dibbsed it this is like
Speaker 3: her thing, like she's an actress and she's always liked it,
Speaker 3: then it seems fair that you just let her have
Speaker 3: this win. I don't believe in the mentality that there
Speaker 3: can only be one, but in this instance, like how
Speaker 3: badly do you want it? And is it worth sacrificing
Speaker 3: the friendship? I'm competitive, but I'm competitive with myself. I
Speaker 3: often don't like to create environments where it's me against
Speaker 3: somebody else, unless it's for gags and giggles. In real life,
Speaker 3: I think that if it's not ultimately mine, then it's
Speaker 3: somebody else's. And if I'm putting a weird environment where
Speaker 3: it's like, oh it could be yours, it could be there,
Speaker 3: you just go ahead to head. It's cool, they can
Speaker 3: have it.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna stal your records. I think she should
Speaker 2: go for it. I think there's no friends in the
Speaker 2: drama game.
Speaker 4: I applied for.
Speaker 3: These ten show business.
Speaker 2: I applied for the Year ten play almost like I
Speaker 2: remember getting to the door and me like, I've got
Speaker 2: to turn around. This is too embarrassing. I can't do it.
Speaker 2: Ended up doing it, got into it. Love drama to
Speaker 2: drama all through school, and it led me to where
Speaker 2: I am now.
Speaker 4: It just plain did.
Speaker 2: If I didn't go to the Year ten play, I
Speaker 2: might not be here where I am right now in
Speaker 2: this heartbreak high set celebrating the show, directed by Graciotto,
Speaker 2: with some incredible cast members.
Speaker 4: They're great.
Speaker 2: But I think I'm correct in this time of the arsehole.
Speaker 2: But will let Hannah decide what she wants to do?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah?
Speaker 3: All I think is that go back to what my
Speaker 3: mum would say, do whatever you want. But if it
Speaker 3: was done to.
Speaker 4: You, what would you like, Wow, that's beautiful, It's okay.
Speaker 3: Cool, Maybe don't go for the role. But look, I
Speaker 3: don't know what I want badly enough that my friend
Speaker 3: also couldn't play, especially if it's fair game you're auditioning.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why she should pull her finger out and
Speaker 2: just let her friend go for it.
Speaker 1: Flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm a big fan of wikiHow dot com. You
Speaker 2: Are is a website that provides advice on how to
Speaker 2: do very rudimentary things such as kiss, hug, be more confident,
Speaker 2: and it's accompanied by illustrations that are definitely very terrifying.
Speaker 2: I have found this wiki how, which I think could
Speaker 2: be quite interesting for me when I'm communicating with you.
Speaker 2: A known gas lighter?
Speaker 3: Is it gas light? If you just forget you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Like, maybe I remembered it differently.
Speaker 2: It's giving manipulative good. Anyway, here is what to do.
Speaker 2: Number one, ignore their tactics.
Speaker 3: We've got to start with what a gas lighter.
Speaker 4: Is, though I'm not sure do you want to find.
Speaker 3: A gas lighter is? A gas Lighting is a manipulation
Speaker 3: tactic people can use make you question the credibility of
Speaker 3: your own reality, so that might be. They could lie
Speaker 3: to you consistently, and then you might not believe your
Speaker 3: own truth. Or they could make you feel insane about
Speaker 3: things that are quite obvious, Like right now, FRUMI is
Speaker 3: wearing a green top. I could say it's more gray.
Speaker 3: Don't you think it's actually more all of more gray? Anyway?
Speaker 3: Please tell me how can we flip the tactics back?
Speaker 2: Number one, Let a gas lighter's lies go in one
Speaker 2: ear and out the other and out smart them. Also
Speaker 2: consider deleting or block in the number so they.
Speaker 4: Can't reach you.
Speaker 3: That's a very strong one.
Speaker 2: Step one, okay, shrug walk away.
Speaker 4: Number two.
Speaker 2: Establish boundaries with them. Draw a line with the gas
Speaker 2: ladder that they can't cross it without consequences. For example,
Speaker 2: you may set a boundary that if the gas slatter
Speaker 2: tells you you're too sensitive one more time, you'll end
Speaker 2: the relationship.
Speaker 3: Wow goo, threats and ultimatums. Personally, I won't go into it.
Speaker 3: I was going, I'm ready to hear it. You're safe here, babe.
Speaker 4: Not yet.
Speaker 2: Three Collect proof of their behavior. Store some receipts in
Speaker 2: a pass code locked file. I use one password the software.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Four, Keep track of the lies they tell in a journal. Again,
Speaker 2: a lock journal would be ideal. Five ask them about
Speaker 2: to explain their reasoning, which I don't think that's a
Speaker 2: good tactic because there are already one step ahead of you.
Speaker 2: Point out their lives, catch them lying again. You've got
Speaker 2: to be quite strong to do that one. Hide your
Speaker 2: emotions now, this one really does interest me. Try not
Speaker 2: to focus on who's right and wrong. Instead, concentrate on
Speaker 2: what you felt like when you were being gas lit
Speaker 2: and mask that so they can't.
Speaker 3: Tell emotional suppression. My therapist would disagree.
Speaker 2: Use a calm and even tone when communicating. Now, definitely,
Speaker 2: I'll go more shrill and feeling backed into a corner.
Speaker 3: I want six octaves up if we're fighting, let's fight.
Speaker 2: Get the yeat vibration, avoid falling for their love bombing tactics.
Speaker 2: Apparently that's a big thing. Gather ust system and stay
Speaker 2: true to yourself.
Speaker 3: Are those steps or just options like are we doing
Speaker 3: an insequential order or just considerations how to approach it?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The final two leave the relationship and talk to a therapist,
Speaker 2: which I think is great. Have I been gas lit
Speaker 2: in my life?
Speaker 4: Yes? Every time I come to work and face with
Speaker 4: you as as a setup.
Speaker 2: I'm going to think of an example that doesn't incriminate
Speaker 2: me or the person that.
Speaker 4: I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: But oh, okay, there was a time in my life
Speaker 2: where I was going through some changes coming out of
Speaker 2: neat disorder, and I was gaining weight and someone that
Speaker 2: I knew would jokingly call me fatty. Like I remember
Speaker 2: it was like Christmas time at home, and like I
Speaker 2: went to the to the fridge to get more food
Speaker 2: because I eat a lot. Yeah, okay, I'm coming out
Speaker 2: of something I'm consuming.
Speaker 3: But also you're the kind of person needs food to
Speaker 3: function like most people. But we often talk about how
Speaker 3: I often associate food with relaxing. So I'll power through
Speaker 3: the day, stomach ignoring at me and my Baby's not
Speaker 3: time we can relax is seven point thirty, so we'll
Speaker 3: have our big meal. But you need the food to
Speaker 3: keep powering on. It's what's fueling you, which is smart
Speaker 3: and healthy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I do. I eat at regular intervals.
Speaker 2: That's also something you learn when you go through eating
Speaker 2: disorder treatment. You have to well, I have to eat
Speaker 2: every three hours. So if someone's like, let's I have
Speaker 2: got a lunch at like two pm, too bad? I've
Speaker 2: got to eat before then and then come not hungry.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm doing it by the book, and I
Speaker 2: quite like that. Anyway, this person would jokingly call me fatty.
Speaker 4: It happened once.
Speaker 2: Then it happened in another scenario. Again they're completely not
Speaker 2: like they know what I've gone through, but they obviously
Speaker 2: don't think it's serious.
Speaker 3: They don't think what you've been through is serious, but
Speaker 3: they've decided this is the perfect time to refer to
Speaker 3: you as fatty. Please stop it, please, I want to
Speaker 3: go home, so home.
Speaker 2: The first time I happened, I had a tourst chat
Speaker 2: like an hour later being like, look, you said this thing.
Speaker 2: I know it's a joke and I'm going through this thing.
Speaker 3: It's not on.
Speaker 4: You really can't do it.
Speaker 3: Don't joke around me.
Speaker 2: And at the time, like I had real bad body dysmorphia,
Speaker 2: so I fully thought that I was in quotation marks
Speaker 2: fat little do you need no.
Speaker 4: I was underweight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the batter was doing brain tricks. And then yeah,
Speaker 2: they did it again, and unfortunately I had to end
Speaker 2: a relationship. Yeah, a friendship had to go down the.
Speaker 3: Toilet, because realistically, it's really frustrating when you have to
Speaker 3: be extra emotional for someone to take you seriously, just
Speaker 3: hear it for what it is. Let's just take it
Speaker 3: for what it is. I don't have this conversation. You
Speaker 3: don't want to hear it, so let's act accordingly.
Speaker 2: Literally, let's throw it out. But yeah, I think definitely
Speaker 2: when it comes today.
Speaker 3: When you address it the second time, were they kind
Speaker 3: of like, oh, come on, now, you know it's a
Speaker 3: joke or oh, what do you mean, like, relax, it's
Speaker 3: a bit of fun. How are they approaching it?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 4: It got quite upset.
Speaker 2: I kind of was like, this is a priority. We
Speaker 2: need to sit down at the cafe and explain this
Speaker 2: to you. And I had to get more emotional to
Speaker 2: try and get them to understand, Like I kind of
Speaker 2: went more into detail about how this, how this has
Speaker 2: come to be in my reality, why it makes me
Speaker 2: feel this certain way, because I think, especially in disorders,
Speaker 2: are so misunders understood, particularly when it's like restriction based
Speaker 2: and coming out of that, it's like everybody's gaslighting you
Speaker 2: because it's like, oh, look, you're like eating this, you
Speaker 2: must be fine, or da da day, why are you
Speaker 2: doing that?
Speaker 3: You're eating junk food?
Speaker 4: Like the deal so bitch, I was eating with Donalds
Speaker 4: the whole time. Yeah, shut it, shut up.
Speaker 2: So, yes, I've been gasled in that way. It's kind
Speaker 2: of hard as well when I don't think people necessarily
Speaker 2: gaslight in a manipulative or a male adaptive, malicious.
Speaker 4: Way all the time.
Speaker 2: Like sometimes I think it's subtle and they don't realize
Speaker 2: they're doing the.
Speaker 4: Power of it.
Speaker 3: Though. Yeah it's a subtleties, it's.
Speaker 2: A subtlety is But yeah, I have gotten over that.
Speaker 2: I I have reignited a relationship with that person where friends.
Speaker 2: Again very very civil, but unfortunately I had to cut
Speaker 2: the tire because I just not in the space to
Speaker 2: be able to hold space that person where I was.
Speaker 3: Sometimes civil is all you can give though, But to
Speaker 3: your point, I think, yeah, sometimes it needs to be
Speaker 3: a distinction between when somebody is actively gas lighting you
Speaker 3: and just so happening to be like passively gaslighting you.
Speaker 3: But my thing is the outcome and the impact is
Speaker 3: still the same. So unfortunately must painted with broad brushstrokes.
Speaker 4: You've got to go, You've got to goo. So that's
Speaker 4: a little lesson. Never call somebody fatty, even if it's
Speaker 4: a joke.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I had a friend in high school. Her nickname,
Speaker 3: her family would call her that, and it was like
Speaker 3: something that she wasn't fat, she was very thin, but
Speaker 3: it was very normal in the context of her family structures.
Speaker 3: And we all came over as friends. We were like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is really odd, and now we notice you have
Speaker 3: a really weird relationship with food and eating and hunger.
Speaker 3: Do you not think it's connected? And she's very paranoid
Speaker 3: or not. She's very defensive about it, naturally, because you don't
Speaker 3: want to be called out your name for anything in particular,
Speaker 3: but this was layered. It was like, you know, being
Speaker 3: the middle child, you know, wanting to bear the brunt
Speaker 3: of being bullied, essentially because she already felt like an outsider,
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And I
Speaker 3: was like, Okay, at this point, it's your email. It's
Speaker 3: one thing to just cop it, and it's one thing
Speaker 3: to make it your identity. Okay, you brought it outside
Speaker 3: the home and now we're concerned, Oh.
Speaker 4: It's too real.
Speaker 2: We bucome what we are saying at Sometimes if we
Speaker 2: don't call it out one.
Speaker 3: Hundred percent, nip it in the bud. I say, and
Speaker 3: that means sometimes you're having the same conversation over and
Speaker 3: over again. But I try not to assume it's gas
Speaker 3: lighting if it's just that someone hasn't come to my understanding.
Speaker 3: When I've understood it, I think I know what you mean.
Speaker 3: So for example, like let's say I'm telling a friend, oh, like,
Speaker 3: you're not really agreeable. Every time I want to do
Speaker 3: something fun, you never want to come, but I'm always
Speaker 3: joining you and you want to do fun things. And
Speaker 3: she's like, oh, well, you never ask me, And I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 3: because you never want to say yes. Are you gaslighting me?
Speaker 3: Or do you just not notice? It's tricky now we
Speaker 3: pay attention. You air it out, You air it out,
Speaker 3: get over it.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms on KEDA.
Speaker 3: A couple years ago, maybe closer to two years, I
Speaker 3: swore off giving advice to people online because sometimes the
Speaker 3: stakes aren't as high as I realized, or they're too high,
Speaker 3: and I've overinvested or underinvested, and it's just a lot
Speaker 3: of literal emotional labor for me to carry. I'm just
Speaker 3: one woman. I can't do it on my umble woman.
Speaker 3: But if you catch me at the right time and
Speaker 3: the request isn't too demanding.
Speaker 4: I just might.
Speaker 3: Literally seconds ago somebody sent me a DM which I
Speaker 3: just happened to open, and it's more so for through me,
Speaker 3: so I'm happy to pass on that labor. They've said, flex,
Speaker 3: I have a topic you need to discuss with frooms.
Speaker 3: I've reached out and asked for advice on my stories
Speaker 3: because I never seem to properly portion dry pasta, so
Speaker 3: when I cook, I always end up cooking the whole
Speaker 3: bag and having so much left over. I'm there with you,
Speaker 3: So anyway about twenty people or message me saying do
Speaker 3: the whole bag and move on. Oh and my issue
Speaker 3: with the whole bag is that I don't eat pasta
Speaker 3: for three days. Then I posted to my stories. I
Speaker 3: hope all the whole bag people out there don't have
Speaker 3: the same chaotic energy in their lives, and a lot
Speaker 3: of people said yes. Now I need to know if
Speaker 3: a personality type is related to how we measure pasta
Speaker 3: or is it just a lack of skill so a
Speaker 3: whole bag is easier. Please let me know, because now
Speaker 3: I'm bothered by how many whole bag people are out
Speaker 3: there through me?
Speaker 4: What do you think? Wow?
Speaker 2: In the previous life, I would have said use the
Speaker 2: portion that is said on the packet. So if it's
Speaker 2: like a thing of spaghetti, it says serve six, get
Speaker 2: sixth amount. But I don't actually believe in portion sizes.
Speaker 2: I think sometimes you have to go with your gut
Speaker 2: and your emotional feeling. If that is eating half about
Speaker 2: half a bag of pasta. I'm gonna eat half a
Speaker 2: bag of pasta. That means putting the whole thing in.
Speaker 2: I'm probably gonna eat every single pasta.
Speaker 4: Sometimes we need to do that.
Speaker 2: But I agree, if you're going to make a sauce
Speaker 2: that's like serve six people, then use the whole pasta. Personally,
Speaker 2: I don't mind eating pasta all week. It's very cost efficient.
Speaker 2: But if she wants to use the whole portion thing,
Speaker 2: I do know a trick, and that is to use
Speaker 2: the colander that you use you get like past out
Speaker 2: with and you put it in the middle.
Speaker 4: Can't remember how that works?
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the trick?
Speaker 2: That's like the right the pasta colander, that's like how
Speaker 2: much past you should use.
Speaker 4: But I think if you're questioning, just go with your gut. Hunh.
Speaker 3: I personally do not believe in cooking. But number two,
Speaker 3: I have never in my time of cooking pasta been
Speaker 3: a whole bagger because I too don't want to eat
Speaker 3: leftovers or three days worth of a meal. I just
Speaker 3: don't know what I'll feel like the next day, and
Speaker 3: then you have did you know?
Speaker 4: Also part of it it's not time for you.
Speaker 3: It's not time for you.
Speaker 2: It is a really important fact, okay, go The amount
Speaker 2: of leftovers that Australia makes every year could fit in
Speaker 2: the MCG ten times over. So it's good that you're
Speaker 2: not having leftovers and throwing them out.
Speaker 3: Its sustainable, Queen. I do also struggle with the portion thing,
Speaker 3: because I always think you need less pasta than your
Speaker 3: eyes tell you. Probly, so your eyes tell you, oh
Speaker 3: you like fiell the little pot up till it's about halfway,
Speaker 3: and then you have too much, of course, So what
Speaker 3: I would then do is say I'm allowed to cook
Speaker 3: more sauce than I need because that'll last. Okay, I
Speaker 3: can go back to that in a week's time. But
Speaker 3: the raw pasta, that's not keeping a night. So I
Speaker 3: do a handful or two, and then what I have
Speaker 3: is what I have, And if I'm desperate, I'll make
Speaker 3: some more. But the reason why people are whole baggers
Speaker 3: because they don't have the skill to be portion people,
Speaker 3: the skill, all the tools, and that's no shade.
Speaker 4: That's really sad. I'm glad we gave her to optionally sad.
Speaker 4: She can choose what she wants.
Speaker 3: That's a pleasure, women of the people.
Speaker 1: This is flex and frooms.
Speaker 2: We're currently trialing what it feels like to have non
Speaker 2: monotone voices.
Speaker 4: I believe when you become a woman things are expected
Speaker 4: of it.
Speaker 3: Monotony and cackling.
Speaker 4: You have a lobotomy.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got this message just ten minutes ago. This
Speaker 3: person says, I don't know if this is something you
Speaker 3: may have covered before, but can I please ask this
Speaker 3: favor of you? Hected to receive. I was probably gonna
Speaker 3: screen it, but it was fairly easy for me to
Speaker 3: help out. Then they said, embarrassing early send sorry because
Speaker 3: I saw it. Yeah right. My actual question hopefully won't
Speaker 3: be too long. Have you ever broken up with a friend.
Speaker 3: If you were ever to be the receiver of a
Speaker 3: friend breakup, would you prefer to be ghosted eventually phase
Speaker 3: out or would you prefer a clean breakup with reasons
Speaker 3: and closure.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 3: Now, obviously friendship breakups are quite nuanced. But for the
Speaker 3: sake of this person getting an answer asap, would you
Speaker 3: prefer to be the friendship breaker upperer or not? And
Speaker 3: if you were on the receiving end, do you want
Speaker 3: the clean cut and dry out or do you want
Speaker 3: to be soft.
Speaker 4: Ghosted self ghost? And I've had both.
Speaker 2: The hard cut really cuts you for years, and then
Speaker 2: you might catch up them later and be like, oh,
Speaker 2: we wasn't that bad, but you like villainize.
Speaker 4: Them in your mind.
Speaker 2: So I prefer a soft ghost because then it's not
Speaker 2: on me. Maybe they're just busy, you know, but what
Speaker 2: about you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like I used to do this thing
Speaker 3: when I was a capital E extrovert where I would
Speaker 3: make a lot of friends and assume that it's a
Speaker 3: very casual encounter. But then they would latch on quite
Speaker 3: heavily and I wouldn't set a boundary and be like, hey,
Speaker 3: I actually like this is a chill thing for me.
Speaker 3: And so I was finding myself having to figure out
Speaker 3: do I cut someone so they don't think I'm being
Speaker 3: a negligent friend, or do I soft ghost them? The
Speaker 3: soft ghost always worked because I never had a really
Speaker 3: good reason to not want to be their friend, aside
Speaker 3: from like I don't know, like I have my close friends,
Speaker 3: I prefer their vibe full time, don't really love your vibe.
Speaker 3: In terms of doing a soft ghost or a hard
Speaker 3: cut from on the receiving end, I vote soft ghost
Speaker 3: only because often I find the problems that I have
Speaker 3: with other people are half my fault every time, Like
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 3: If you're a messy person, you should be allowed to
Speaker 3: be a messy person. But I don't like that about you,
Speaker 3: so that's my own problem. Or let's say, like I
Speaker 3: don't like the friends you have, that's also not your problem.
Speaker 3: That's my problem. So to now pull you out of
Speaker 3: your life to be like, hey, like we can't be
Speaker 3: friends because you have X, Y and Z, okay whatever.
Speaker 3: I think it's really tricky every now and then when
Speaker 3: I toy with the idea of like not having a
Speaker 3: friend because I want to be a really good friend.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be like a wishy, washy, not
Speaker 3: available type of friend. I want to be like on
Speaker 3: care right, and I can't do that for everyone. And
Speaker 3: I think it's clear to the other friends when they're
Speaker 3: not getting as much friendship from you. So I have
Speaker 3: toy with the idea of like how I would approach that,
Speaker 3: but I'm like, you know, it's just too much drama.
Speaker 3: Like we're just trying to get through the day to
Speaker 3: day to day, you know, just like let some things fizzle.
Speaker 3: And if fizzling is not what's gonna see with you
Speaker 3: and it needs to be addressed, well then you'll figure
Speaker 3: it out once you've fizzled.
Speaker 4: Wow, retrospective.
Speaker 3: I like that.
Speaker 4: Flex me too.
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Speaker 3: hex stet wave the hex stet. Add an additional incentive,
Speaker 3: like we'll give you discount rent like we need need
Speaker 3: it where it matters.
Speaker 4: Cost of living is high, give us like.
Speaker 3: Free pep us, let me stop, can start.
Speaker 4: When flex world goes under.
Speaker 3: He's pivoting. I think I could be a sick midwife.
Speaker 4: A midwife.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's gonna be any healthcare practitioner. Be it anesthesiologist
Speaker 3: obviously if the coin if not a midwife.
Speaker 4: Bit too much pressure to a dueler.
Speaker 3: Actually, I don't want to have to go study, but
Speaker 3: I'll be there for vibes, help me push.
Speaker 4: You should be a death dueler.
Speaker 3: Yeah, see it's a bit grim and I'm a bit
Speaker 3: in denial about death.
Speaker 4: Oh god, do you know that? Hunt?
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