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Speaker 1: Get A.

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Speaker 2: I'm Laala Berry, nutritionist, author, actor, TV presenter and professional oversharer.

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Speaker 2: This podcast is all about celebrating failure because I believe

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Speaker 2: it's a chance for us to learn, grow and face

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Speaker 2: our blind spots. Each week, I'll interview a different guest

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Speaker 2: about their highs as well as their lows, all in

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Speaker 2: a bid to inspire us to fearlessly fail.

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Speaker 1: Get A.

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Speaker 2: Now, you know, one of the premises of this podcast

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Speaker 2: is anybody that is just doing something that has their

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Speaker 2: purpose and they're effectively marching to the beat of their

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Speaker 2: own drum.

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Speaker 1: Today's guest is that meet Oliver Borer.

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Speaker 2: Now, when I met Oliver, Boss and I were shopping

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Speaker 2: at our local Mullumbimbie farmer's market and we saw this

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Speaker 2: kid selling eggs and of course we bought them and

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Speaker 2: they're absolutely delicious, And then I just stumbled across his

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Speaker 2: page on Instagram and I was like, Holy mackerel. At

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Speaker 2: the age of seventeen, Oliver set up a crowdfunding page

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Speaker 2: because he wanted to create sustainable and ethical eggs and

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Speaker 2: literally through crowdfunding, and his school let him set up

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Speaker 2: a caravan on their property. He started with four hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty hens, Happy Hens. Cut to today, He's twenty

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Speaker 2: years old. He's now at the Farming Byron Bay. He's

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Speaker 2: got over two thousand happy hens. He's really passionate about

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Speaker 2: sustainable farming, ethical farming. He gets in there and debunks

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Speaker 2: all the myths around free range and the difference between

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Speaker 2: free range organic pasture raised.

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Speaker 1: This is for anybody that has a dream and just

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Speaker 1: wants to go for it. But it's also for people.

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Speaker 2: That are into health and want to understand how they

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Speaker 2: can vote with their dollar. Oliver, you are a legend.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to see what is next for you,

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Speaker 1: my friend.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the pod, Oliver Bora of Oliver's Hands.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I met you at Mullum Farmer's Markets.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that was the first first.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's our favorite.

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Speaker 2: It's our favorite market to go to on a Friday

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Speaker 2: morning and we always end we'll do our big shop

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Speaker 2: and we ended your eggs and on.

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Speaker 4: The way out. Yeah, the chats and everything like that. Yeah, amazing.

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Speaker 2: So the reason why I really want to get you

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Speaker 2: on this podcast is I had no idea that you

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Speaker 2: started this with crowdfunding and you were seventeen years old

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Speaker 2: and was the idea for this for Oliver's hands. This

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Speaker 2: was this like a school project for you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean at the end of the day, it

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Speaker 4: that I did through work experience and some sort of

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Speaker 4: like you know how you know in your tenor or

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Speaker 4: let you and I with the workplacement and stuff like that,

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Speaker 4: to just you know, get a bit of a feel

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Speaker 4: what's what's happening out there.

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Speaker 2: And then you just fell in love. Were you just like, okay,

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Speaker 2: sustainable as farming as my jam.

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Speaker 4: And then I was just sort of like I've you know,

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Speaker 3: And I've always had chickens since like since I could walk.

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Speaker 4: I remember Mom and Dad showing me photos of me

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Speaker 4: walking around the chicken pen, throwing.

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Speaker 4: But then yeah, like basically it's sort of it just

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Speaker 4: initiated this idea of starting with fifty chickens or something

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Speaker 3: Was really encouraging and really liked the idea.

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Speaker 4: And then like you know, it just more research and

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Speaker 4: the experiences that I've had through growing up in China

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Speaker 2: You know, I had no idea you spent a lot

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Speaker 2: Like because you're so you're so young, and I think

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Speaker 4: And I think like big aspects like growing up in

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it sort of was quite interested in the

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Speaker 3: Good food for the community. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And when you came back, were you to Steinus School.

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Speaker 2: So just to go back to like the idea. So

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Speaker 2: love of like, yeah, more like where the food comes from,

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Speaker 3: Of the day.

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Speaker 2: Well that's what's so cool about hearing about Steinus school too,

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Speaker 2: because I know they really Taylor. I know, it's like

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Speaker 2: they let you figure out your what you're drawn towards,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's sort of you know, we've still

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Speaker 4: you know, you can sort of the teachers will allow

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Speaker 1: Day, that's what it's about.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So, when so you did your work experience and then

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Speaker 2: did so it's did it start with tell me if

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Speaker 2: I get this order wrong? But so you decide to

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Speaker 2: crowdfund yep, the goal was four hundred and fifty hands.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so so started off with crowdfunding. I wanted to

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Speaker 3: And some food and stuff like that to get started.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and so literally I raised fifteen thousand dollars with

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Speaker 4: And like that's the sort of package and crowdfunding aspect.

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Speaker 3: And then it's.

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Speaker 4: It's sort of like like snowball effect, and funny enough,

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Speaker 4: I got given a caravan from Chris Murphy in Lenox,

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Speaker 3: It just sort of grew and then starting the markets. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: And I was like, all right, cool, So I've got

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Speaker 4: got equipment. Now where do I sell? Where do I

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Speaker 2: So you've got your caravan, but was that at the

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Speaker 4: Yeah? So the school's got like a really beautiful plot.

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Speaker 4: We've got about twenty acres out there. Yeah, and you.

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Speaker 3: Know part of the subjects.

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Speaker 4: One of the subjects is is agriculture and learning how

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Speaker 4: to grow food and sort of learning about plants and

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Speaker 4: perennials and manuals and.

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Speaker 3: All different things to grow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know a bit of cow management. And

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Speaker 4: the favorite thing was going there to milkcows. Like I've

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Speaker 4: ever done that before, but milk cows and tasting fresh belt.

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Speaker 1: It was just completely different, right, and it's.

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Speaker 3: Warm, right warm, and it's it's a lot creamy it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's part of your school, Like, that's insanely amazing

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Speaker 2: that that's part of your schooling. As some of the

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Speaker 2: grub in the city, I'm getting really jealous right now in.

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Speaker 1: A good way though, I'm like, that's amazing.

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Speaker 2: So okay, So, because I was also reading on the

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Speaker 2: farm website in September last year, you've now got correct

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Speaker 4: I had fifteen hundred hens. Yeah, And like I started

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Speaker 2: So that's an attribute to you to be like, hang on,

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Speaker 3: I've done this now?

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Speaker 4: And so by moving you know, the caravans to caravans,

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Speaker 2: And is it true more amga threes in your eggs

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Speaker 4: in cages, have got lights on and off, and all

444
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 4: this nasty behavior.

445
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,040
Speaker 1: And short quality of light like shorter lives, short.

446
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 4: Live not I mean, it can be sustainable, but it's

447
00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,040
Speaker 4: not ethical, Like that's out the window.

448
00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:43,919
Speaker 3: And then you've got free range.

449
00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,560
Speaker 4: And so this is where free range and pasture raised

450
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:51,560
Speaker 4: free range really gets like the confusion happening because free

451
00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:52,720
Speaker 4: range is still.

452
00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:53,920
Speaker 3: Chickens inside a shed.

453
00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,119
Speaker 4: They get like, you know, maybe half an acre of

454
00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,640
Speaker 4: little dirt patch, but like ten thousand birds. Imagine one day,

455
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,320
Speaker 4: they'd be a dust ball in ten seconds. Yeah, and

456
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,760
Speaker 4: the chickens are so used to living in that shed

457
00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 4: they're not even walk like, they're not even used to

458
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 4: going outside that door. That they get let out three,

459
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 4: four or five times, you know.

460
00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 1: And they're not going to fresh grass you were talking

461
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:15,919
Speaker 1: about with your.

462
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 4: Whole nutrients and like you know, regenerative farming. But I

463
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,359
Speaker 4: think that to understand the difference is so free range,

464
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:28,639
Speaker 4: just normal free range, even though it can say organic,

465
00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,679
Speaker 4: it's still you know, there might be organic fed certified feet,

466
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 4: but there are also free range still inside sheds. And

467
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,399
Speaker 4: there was ten thousand other birds, and you know, to

468
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 4: understand the different pictures that you've got a big shed,

469
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 4: they've got dirt floors, and you know, they're inside a

470
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 4: shed with ten thousand other birds. And then you've got

471
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,160
Speaker 4: the system like mine that they get half an acre

472
00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 4: of fresh grass every couple of weeks, Like each chicken

473
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,240
Speaker 4: like on average, gets about four square meters of fresh

474
00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,359
Speaker 4: grass versus in free range, it's one square meter of

475
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 4: a shed or.

476
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 2: Don't patch crazy, And so you want to be looking

477
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,440
Speaker 2: for the pasture race.

478
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,560
Speaker 4: Free range, Yeah, because pasture means pastures grass like, not pasturalized,

479
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,600
Speaker 4: because that's like pasturized milk different.

480
00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:16,280
Speaker 3: They don't get confused with that.

481
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 4: But pasture like pasture raised is is grass fed in

482
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:23,200
Speaker 4: free range?

483
00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,960
Speaker 2: How do you know if people are doing the four

484
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:26,440
Speaker 2: square meters or one?

485
00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's tricky. It's just researching.

486
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,159
Speaker 4: Like the best way is going to the farmer's markets

487
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 4: and asking that question.

488
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:34,600
Speaker 3: Speaking of the farmer, do.

489
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: You get asked all those kind of questions totally?

490
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 4: That's that's why I like being at the front and

491
00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,160
Speaker 4: like sitting at the markets and having conversations because it's

492
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,439
Speaker 4: really sort of you know, telling the truth and just

493
00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 4: being honest of the reality in that sense.

494
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,440
Speaker 2: With organic compete because I always see, like sod you

495
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 2: when you get a health store, you'll see like free

496
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 2: range organic. That can still mean they're just in a

497
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 2: big barn, but the feeder is organic.

498
00:22:58,200 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 4: Totally, And they could even have a picture on the

499
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,199
Speaker 4: saying that you know, it's like chickens in grass, but

500
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,440
Speaker 4: it's not really unless you really dive deep into looking

501
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 4: at if you can find photos and stuff like that

502
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,239
Speaker 4: of them actually being out in grass and you know,

503
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 4: sort of are seeing the picture like in real life.

504
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 3: It's sort of Yeah, it's still a bit of a

505
00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:18,760
Speaker 3: it's marketing it.

506
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I know a lot of people that listen

507
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: to this love to come to Byron Bay. If you

508
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,359
Speaker 2: want to see your hens in the flesh in real life,

509
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,360
Speaker 2: you literally just go to the farm and walk to.

510
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 3: The farm in Byron Bay. You just walk in there,

511
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 3: walk out. You see all the animals and.

512
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,160
Speaker 1: All your hens are there.

513
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 4: Like you can even drive by it, like you don't

514
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,360
Speaker 4: have to stop. You can just drive by going into

515
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,200
Speaker 4: Byron and look at the left hand side as you

516
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 4: turn in the first round about and they all yeah,

517
00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:41,760
Speaker 4: and you.

518
00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,760
Speaker 1: Can see your big logo like you've got one of.

519
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: The one of the camera.

520
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Can you talk to me about your logo quickly?

521
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 2: Because you told me someone at school might have designed

522
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 2: it or the competition or.

523
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:52,919
Speaker 3: Something that's exactly what happened.

524
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 4: I sort of like that whole aspect of creating, like

525
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 4: getting the school involved and people around to help, And

526
00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 4: that was one of the ways I did it was

527
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:07,679
Speaker 4: did a logo competition from year one already year twelve,

528
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 4: and kids at the school were very interested. They were like, yeah, cool,

529
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 4: someone's doing something exciting. And you know, I had like

530
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 4: all the year one kids were super excited to just

531
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 4: draw like, you know, chickens and they had chickens in

532
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 4: fields and they had like really you know, creative drawings

533
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 4: and was so excited to come presented to me. And anyway,

534
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,920
Speaker 4: finally a girl in year eight she was she drew

535
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 4: this logo that now stands with all those hens or

536
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 4: at the time was that was Yeah, that was at

537
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 4: the time when I was in year eleven getting started seventeen.

538
00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's the logo you've got today, And.

539
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 4: That's the logo I've got today. I did the crowd

540
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,479
Speaker 4: funding video. I had another guy in year eight.

541
00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 3: It was funny.

542
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 4: They were very creative classes. They Charlie Pierre who he

543
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:57,320
Speaker 4: actually helped me design the label today. He did the

544
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 4: whole crowdfunding video with me worked through. It was his

545
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 4: first video that he did and sort of yeah, work

546
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 4: to treat Yeah.

547
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:10,159
Speaker 2: And then didn't who came an interviewed you NBS News

548
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: or something.

549
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:17,520
Speaker 3: Or NB Radio Like everyone seen it all. Yeah, it's

550
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: so good.

551
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: It's so inspiring to me to see someone do this

552
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,880
Speaker 2: so young, because like it's so for me, it's really

553
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 2: exciting for the future.

554
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: What is your dream?

555
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 2: What happens if we look into a crystal ball, like

556
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 2: five years down the line, what do you want to

557
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 2: be doing? Do you want to be doing this on

558
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 2: a big scale or.

559
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought I sort of think, like I really

560
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 4: want to start and help other kids, like initiatives go

561
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 4: and so a big picture. And I've said it from

562
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 4: the beginning in my crowdfunding videos that I really sort

563
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,680
Speaker 4: of want to get like I don't know if it's

564
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 4: a fun I'm still trying to work it out, and

565
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,080
Speaker 4: I'm still trying to find out what the best scenario is.

566
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,439
Speaker 4: But you know, like I love continuing the farming, and

567
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 4: I love to to keep the business growing. But I think,

568
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 4: you know, really looking at maybe putting some funding from

569
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 4: each proceeds from each doesn't I sell into a fund

570
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 4: or into some sort of organization that helps other people

571
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 4: do farming, or you know, we.

572
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 3: Could sort of every year run a competition.

573
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 4: It gets like kids going and you know, whether or

574
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 4: not they create a business plan and budgeting and spreadsheets.

575
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: Like the matter of the fact is that they've done

576
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,160
Speaker 3: that sort of.

577
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 4: Process and they've done that idea and got their brains

578
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 4: thinking about how they can you know, alternative incomes.

579
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: Or yeah, sort, I don't know.

580
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 4: I'm trying to work out what I like there, sob

581
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 4: into in that way.

582
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Speaker 1: I love it. Oh, I love it. I love it.

583
00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 2: I can't wait to keep checking in with you and

584
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 2: being like, what's going on now?

585
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: I think you're doing.

586
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: I hope you don't mind going to read your own

587
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 2: quote back to you. Sure, so, probably quite awkward, I

588
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: don't know.

589
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: But I just liked it.

590
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,360
Speaker 2: I believe that sustainable and ethical farming is the future,

591
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,439
Speaker 2: and everything I've learned has inspired me to create my

592
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: own ethical farming enterprise. So ethical farming is your whole jam, right,

593
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: that's right, And like the fact that that's your jam,

594
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,440
Speaker 2: was your dam at seventeen, it's still your jab at twenty,

595
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 2: Like you're still so so young.

596
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: I'm so I'm just so.

597
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 2: Excited for what you do next, whether it be through

598
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 2: creating like a fund that inspires other kids to go

599
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: after their dream, but also like help the planet, help

600
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: the environment, and help I love that you obviously care

601
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 2: so much about animals as well. In your hands, do

602
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 2: you name do you have like favorites?

603
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: And name any of them? At the start?

604
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:39,840
Speaker 3: I mean sort of hard one.

605
00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: It's hard on thousand.

606
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 3: Thousands and they all look pretty same. I was thought

607
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 3: about it was like, oh, can I make little wristbands

608
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 3: or can I get people to make little crachet bracelets, or.

609
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 2: Just to be a first couple though, you know when

610
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 2: you're the first arrived.

611
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 4: I had like a first couple and I still have

612
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,960
Speaker 4: one at home, and it's blackshat with a really beautiful

613
00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 4: golden crest. I called it all of it and it

614
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 4: still lives at home. Really first chicken I over got.

615
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 3: Surprise.

616
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: I've been volunteering the animal sanctuary and there was a

617
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: chicken that was saved in the floods because he likes

618
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: to sleep in a car because I think he's a

619
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,199
Speaker 2: really loud you know, the roosters morning, yeah, And so

620
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: they let him sleep in the car because's a little

621
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 2: bit quieter sound wise. And the car was filling up

622
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: with water with the floods, and someone had to run out.

623
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: His name's buttons, save buttons, And I was holding buttons.

624
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: They say they're so chill when you hold them.

625
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 4: Super chill, and it's like, you know, it's that's the

626
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 4: cool thing at the farm, Like it's amazing when I

627
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 4: love the feeling when I rock up there with the

628
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 4: buggy and all the chickens hear me, they come running.

629
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 4: They know you right, It's like you know you looked

630
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 4: after them. They're so comfortable that you know they're treated

631
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,480
Speaker 4: well and when everything's treated well or looked after, and

632
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 4: they're open to you.

633
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 3: In a way. Yeah.

634
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, like they'll come to you and you can walk

635
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 4: in and amongst the chickens, they come check you out

636
00:28:56,800 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 4: and they stand around. I think that's one of the

637
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 4: biggest comments people give me, Like when they come and

638
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,959
Speaker 4: see the chickens are like, wow, I've never seen chickens

639
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 4: be so friendly and come up to you.

640
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. It just shows how relaxed and.

641
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: Happy they are.

642
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: So for people that might be listening to this that

643
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: are like, Okay, you've inspired me. I want to at

644
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: least support sustainable farming and ethical farming. More is it

645
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 2: looking for those things like with eggs, pastur rais and

646
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: free range, but with across the board, looking for things

647
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 2: like sustainable and ethical When it comes to labeling.

648
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, like all that sort of stuff, like

649
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 4: it pays on the labeling. But I think it's also

650
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: just like you know, having a chat, if you can

651
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 4: get to the closest local.

652
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 3: Source, I think that's amazing market markets and stuff like that.

653
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 4: And I think also I've noticed a really cool trend.

654
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 4: I don't know, you know, recently, we've had this situation

655
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 4: here where we are this flooding and stuff like that,

656
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 4: and we've had a lot of cut off the food

657
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 4: and water and access to fresh goods, and it's it's

658
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 4: when I've walked into the shelves and to drop off eggs,

659
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 4: the only one that is there is you know, like

660
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 4: Oliver's hens, because there's not like we can't like it

661
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: just shows that all the food is coming from external

662
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: like it's coming from Brisbane, it's coming from Sydney, and

663
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 4: it's you know, in this situation, I was like, wow,

664
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 4: that's cool, and there was a few greens from you know,

665
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 4: the locals, and it just shows that you know, go

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Speaker 4: local and you can find that. You know, that's awesome

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Speaker 4: that that's you know, that that we're local farmers that

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Speaker 4: are actually still keeping food supplied in these times, and

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Speaker 4: I think that that was so cool to just show

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah happening.

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Speaker 2: And I think as well, like that's a simple one

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Speaker 2: for people listening, like everyone's got a local farmer's market, that's.

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Speaker 1: Right, and so get down there and ask questions.

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Speaker 2: It's good for you to say as well, like asking questions,

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Speaker 2: because sometimes I think everyone's so busy that I have

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Speaker 2: time for ask questions.

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Speaker 1: I think that that's the city mentality. But usually when you.

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Speaker 2: Get chatting, because what you buy all asked seedlings if

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Speaker 2: you want to grow veggies from the same markets, and

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Speaker 2: we'll be like what's good to plant this week? You know,

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Speaker 2: and you learn as well as a not just a consumer,

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Speaker 2: but you're and I've always said this, how you get

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Speaker 2: to vote with your dollar like your choosing.

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Speaker 4: You're choosing, You're putting your money into where you know

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Speaker 4: it's worth it.

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Speaker 1: You're a legend.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Oliver Ah, You're a champion. I cannot wait

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Speaker 2: to see what's next for you. And thanks for sharing

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Speaker 2: your time with me.

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Speaker 3: You're welcome for a pleasure.

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Speaker 2: That's a wrap on another episode of Fearlessly Failing. As always,

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Speaker 2: thank you to our guests, and let's continue the conversation

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Speaker 2: on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: I'm at Yamo Lollerberry.

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Speaker 2: This potty my word for podcast is available on all

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Speaker 2: streaming platforms. I'd love it if you could subscribe, rape

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Speaker 2: and comment, and of course spread the love.

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Speaker 4: Yes,