1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,759 Speaker 1: We know that there has certainly been calls for further 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: communication when it comes to some of the flooding and 3 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: the whole situation that we've seen across the Top end 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: over recent weeks. We spoke to the Chief Minister Lea 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: Fanocchiaro about this yesterday about a potential messaging system. But 6 00:00:16,239 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: we also know the Opposition leader Selena Yubo has been 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,279 Speaker 1: calling for some more clarity from the government as many 8 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: communities across the Top end deal with the aftermath of 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: widespread flooding. Joining me on the line right now is 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,240 Speaker 1: the Opposition leader Selena Ubo. Good morning, Selena, Good morning Katy, 11 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 1: and good morning to your listeners. Thanks so much for 12 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: your time this morning. Now, Selena, how are the communities 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: going in your electorate at the moment? I understand that 14 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 1: some have gone into a bit more of a recovery phase. 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've had evacuation of Jilkmingen community. That was on Saturday, 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: the seventh of March, Katie. So basically when Catherine was 17 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 2: flooding that same day in the afternoon, people given about 18 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: a twenty minute warning to get out of the community 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 2: for the river roads, on the bridge and the creek. 20 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: That goes into Julkmingen. For those of you who don't know, 21 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 2: it's about twenty minutes southeast of Madaranka, so that's where 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 2: people went. There was some shelters, emergency shelters set up, 23 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 2: but kind of very small in terms of the amount 24 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 2: of people. There's about four hundred people from Jilkmingen community 25 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 2: who went into Madaranka. The town hall was stood up 26 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 2: by the Rope Golf Regional Council and then the school, 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: the Mataranka School became a secondary shelter site as well. 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,959 Speaker 2: Still not unfortunately big enough for the amount of people 29 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 2: that came in, but it was something, and then people 30 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: have had to purchase their own tents to be able 31 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 2: to have some shelter. There's been people sleeping on the 32 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: floor in the town hall and people who haven't had 33 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 2: mattresses because of that quick timing to get out of 34 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 2: the community. 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: I only had twenty minutes to get out. 36 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was in Madaranka on Sunday. Katie spent quite 37 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 2: a few hours down there just hearing some of those stories. 38 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 2: I've been on the phone a lot and got a 39 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 2: lot of messages from constituents about what's going on. Do 40 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 2: I have any further information where they're going to get 41 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:15,360 Speaker 2: extra support in Madarenka obviously completely stretched with what was 42 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 2: happening in Catherine and the flooding. Normally Catherine would be 43 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 2: the hub for the big Rivers region and unfortunately it 44 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 2: was out as we know, because it was flooding and 45 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 2: many people experiencing the horrible effects of the floods in 46 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 2: and around Catherine. That couple of big properties and businesses 47 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 2: in my lecture were also quite affected in that Madarenka area. 48 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: So I was there to touch base and checking in people. 49 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 2: I think the feedback I got directly from community members 50 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 2: from joking in was when the police officers came to 51 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: give people the warning that the water was going up 52 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 2: over the bridge and to get out. Houses are built 53 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: over the low flood lying level. Now in that community, Katie, 54 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 2: so about I'd say, I'm quite a babit measurement sometimes, 55 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,360 Speaker 2: but they're about seven hundred and fifty meal off the ground, 56 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 2: so they can withly and so withstand the low lying 57 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: and medium flood level. This is moderate to higher flood level. 58 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 2: So that's why the decision was made late on Saturday 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: afternoon to get everyone out because you know, power turns 60 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 2: off water turns off, it can be a lot of 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: health issues related to not being able to have an 62 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: access clean drinking well. 63 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 1: And it sounds like evacuating them was the right thing 64 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 1: to do. But I guess that you know that timing well, 65 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: that's something that's sort of being questioned a bit at 66 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: the moment, and you know, we'd said it last week. 67 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: We were talking about on the show as well, about 68 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: whether we need you know, better communication. And it's not 69 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: a criticism of the Northern Territory government or even of 70 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, of public servants, but more whether we can 71 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: utilize like a text messaging system to actually say, hey, 72 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 1: there is potential for flash flooding in your area, evacuate now, 73 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: and give people a bit of a better sort of 74 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: understanding of what's happening. 75 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent agree, Katie. I was talking about 76 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 2: this early last week. We asked quite a lot of 77 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 2: questions from the labor position about, you know, again wanting 78 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: to be constructed. Why weren't those alerts Everyone got used 79 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 2: to probably a bit annoyed from those messages during COVID, 80 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: but at least people knew what was happening. You could 81 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: read it. The message was there I've heard some really 82 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,159 Speaker 2: horrible and horrific stories of people waking up, you know, 83 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 2: three am, to flooding in their homes and their properties, 84 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: not being able to let their livestock out, and unfortunately 85 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 2: losing a lot of livestock, which has been quite devastating 86 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: for those pastoralists. Not being able to open gates and 87 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: let you know, livestock move on too high ground or 88 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: be able to muster them up to high ground. So 89 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 2: that's been really devastating to hear that trauma. But also that, yeah, 90 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 2: people aren't on Facebook every day. People should be able 91 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 2: to access news, radio, multimedia, you know, the text message alerts. 92 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 2: There's only one area that I'm aware of, and I'm 93 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: happy to be corrected that actually went out in terms 94 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,160 Speaker 2: of communications, and that was up on Gorge Road. That 95 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: that's the big road that leads up to nip Bage 96 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 2: from Catherine, and I talked to some people yesterday in 97 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 2: Catherine about their communication going down. But people out in 98 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: some of the big rural blocks out near Florina Road. 99 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 2: That was you know, people without using the teenies to 100 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 2: get across and help each other out, just to get 101 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 2: those essential items. A lot of people were still on 102 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 2: telecommunications there, so having you know, information, hey there's a 103 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: food drop in your area, or call the STS and 104 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 2: this is the number if you need essentralizers, particularly baby items, Katie. 105 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 2: A lot of people were quite upset running out of 106 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: you know, nappies and formula and not getting that in 107 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 2: the in what was kind to the essential items drop. 108 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 2: So there's definitely room for improvement. We know it can 109 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 2: be done. It happened every day multiple times during COVID. 110 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 2: It's not reinventing the wheel, it's asking the questions why 111 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:44,239 Speaker 2: weren't those mechanisms switched on Darwin River with the board, 112 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: you know boil water alert last week? You know, I 113 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 2: was being asked different questions or do we need to 114 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: boil the water? Three times I said, well, I'm not sure. 115 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: I can't see any information that tells me that, and 116 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: then you know, then the water alert was lifted, which 117 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: was great. But in terms of being able to give 118 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: people real time to early communication information, that's a simple 119 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 2: one that could be switched on pretty quickly. 120 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. Look, I do think there needs to 121 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: be a review into this. Would you support the Public 122 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: Accounts Committee sort of having a look into this. I 123 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: know that the Chief Minister had said yesterday that there 124 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: has been discussions with the federal government about this because 125 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: some of that alerting system actually falls under the Feds. 126 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: But do you think that we need to have a 127 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: look into this in terms of maybe the Public Accounts 128 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: Committee so that you know, so that you've actually got 129 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: members of the public able to give some feedback as well. 130 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think having community input in this, Katie, will 131 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 2: be the critical point where community members and people who've 132 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: been experiencing what's just happened, and some who still are 133 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 2: like Wiggler, it will be besit community in my electorate. 134 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: The river has gone up again there at the waterhouse 135 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: that they may be in for a little bit longer unfortunately, 136 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: but you know, they're all prepared and they're safe, which 137 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,279 Speaker 2: is the main thing, but being able to provide that 138 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 2: opportunity so people can give their feedback. I spoke to 139 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: a lady from Catherine who who's been lived there for 140 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: forty one years, just about as long as I've been alive, 141 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 2: and she said this was the most uncoordinated response she's 142 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: seen to Emergency's a pretty upset but wanting to see 143 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: what can be done better, what didn't work what did 144 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: work acknowledging all of the people who've done a huge 145 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: and phenomenal amount of work in the lead up to 146 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,040 Speaker 2: the flooding across the region, not just Cautrine but across 147 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: the region. But what could be done better? You know, 148 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 2: I've got conditions about to buy their own shelter. That's 149 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: he's not fair. 150 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 1: No, that's not Do you think that that's by you know, 151 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 1: the Public Accounts Committee looking into it, or do you 152 00:07:31,160 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: think that you know that a review is just going 153 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: to happen. 154 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 2: Oh? I think yeah. I don't want to be too 155 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: cynical here, but I don't trust the government to review themselves. Katie. 156 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: So I think a mechanism like the Parliamentary Public Accounts 157 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: Committee when we talk about public spending. But at the 158 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 2: end of the day, those decisions should be made very 159 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 2: very quickly. It shouldn't be about the dollar cost. It 160 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: should be saving lives, saving livestock, saving businesses and making 161 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 2: sure people are as prepared as possible. Sometimes in that 162 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 2: very short window of time. 163 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: Totally agree. Selena will move because we're going to catch 164 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: up with the bomb at nine point thirty and find 165 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: out what the goal is with that tropical low I 166 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: want to ask you in terms of the fifty eight 167 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: of stuff heading to Catherine to help out. I know 168 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: there's been some conjecture about who would pay the federal 169 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 1: government confirming that they're not going to be billing the 170 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 1: Northern Territory government. Do you think that they've been called 171 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: in quickly enough and do you think that they just 172 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: need to be in Catherine or does they need to 173 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: be a look at some of the other communities as well. 174 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Katie, I don't think the ADF support has been 175 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 2: called in quickly enough. I acknowledge it has been now 176 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 2: and it's been confirmed and it's very much welcome. My 177 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 2: team and I asked this question at the beginning of 178 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 2: last week in Parliament. It was something that we were 179 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: getting questions on and asked from our own communities as 180 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 2: well as people in Catherine. I think it's great. I 181 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: represent shindle Raft base in the Arnumal electorate. I know 182 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: that people have had to spend their own personal time. 183 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 2: They weren't allowed to be out in uniform to help, 184 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: which is just crazy, but they did want to make 185 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: sure that they were contributing back to the community that 186 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 2: they're a part and being Catherine and working in their 187 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 2: CD duties for volunteering. So I mean, if we talk 188 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 2: about fifty people, the big difference that last week could 189 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: have made. But also to see your second question, Katie, 190 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 2: absolutely it should be spread out to other communities Wiggla Beswick. 191 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 2: All of the bottom camp has been completely flooded. That 192 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: includes the clinic, includes the council office, includes the age care, 193 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 2: It includes the crace which I think is a little 194 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 2: bit up above the water thankfully now, but also some 195 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 2: of the recovery around the Julpenaarte Center who produce amazing 196 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,439 Speaker 2: work and are very well known, so you know, homes 197 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 2: as well as businesses and services in that community. We 198 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 2: haven't heard if the ADF is going to be able 199 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 2: to support them once the water subsides, and as we've 200 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 2: seen Katie, there may be some more water on its way. 201 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 2: So again, how do we continue to support people who 202 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 2: are currently displaced, making sure food security exists. As the 203 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 2: community of Manuluk it's also called Evevalie my election on 204 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,599 Speaker 2: that central Anam road. They don't have a shop, so 205 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: they're quite to shop this Brunger or they go into Catherine, 206 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: so they weren't able to do that during the flooding 207 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 2: of course, so making sure that food security exists and 208 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 2: it is supported by the government or the ADF in 209 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: those recovery efforts. I think it's really important to keep 210 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 2: that in mind. It's not just Catherrine, it has to 211 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 2: be the whole region. 212 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, fair cool. Hey is there a concern do you 213 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,439 Speaker 1: think for those in the evacuation centers in Darwin from 214 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: the daily I mean, they're going to be in there 215 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: for a much longer period of time than what we'd 216 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: initially thought. Should some short term accommodation. Would that be 217 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: better suited for this considering that they're going to be 218 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: there for a while. Yeah. 219 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 2: I was at the evacuation center yesterday and I just 220 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: acknowledged that the Deputy Chief Minister, because the Chief Minister 221 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: was in Canberra, gave me permission to do that, so 222 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 2: I thank him for that. I was able to talk 223 00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 2: to some people, the volunteers. They're having daily meetings there 224 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:52,640 Speaker 2: in the afternoon to allow all of the community to 225 00:10:52,679 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: ask questions and get updates. They've just gone through some 226 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 2: of the photo updates, so it was a bit quite heavy. 227 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 2: People have seen their own home flooded. There was a 228 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 2: really great photo of some pigs that had gone up 229 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 2: onto the brand of fond the house. They gave everyone 230 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: a big laugh and probably a little bit of relief, 231 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 2: But in terms of the severity, I think people are 232 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: really understanding. Unfortunately they will be displacedful a lot longer. 233 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: The good news is I did hear that some of 234 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 2: the elderly and more medically vulnerable being placed in some 235 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 2: motels to be able to have that privacy, but also 236 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: to ensure that their health and their well being has 237 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: looked after, as you know, perhaps more vulnerable to the 238 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: wider population of the community that are in the evacuation center. 239 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 2: So those sort of decisions are being made, unfortunately not 240 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: made for the people of Joking in how vulnerably medical 241 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: people have been on the floor and camping on mattresses 242 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: or intents outside. So you know, there has to be 243 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 2: some sort of equity when it comes to being able 244 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 2: to see what can be done better, and then how 245 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 2: do we prioritize vulnerable and seniors to make sure that 246 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,439 Speaker 2: there we are looked after in these times of uncertainty. 247 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: Selena, Before I let you go, obviously, all discussion about 248 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: floods as it has been for the last couple of 249 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: days even with the Chief Minister. But what is on 250 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: the agenda this week for Parliament for you guys. 251 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 2: Yes, oh, well, the government's putting forward a condolence motion 252 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 2: today on the former administrator Ted Egan, so most of 253 00:12:19,840 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 2: my team is speaking to that. He was a great 254 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 2: administer as everyone knows, and brought people together. Katie. There 255 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 2: will be two pits of legislation, local government and from 256 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 2: the government, as well as the Electrical Safety Bill, so 257 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 2: we'll be speaking to both of those changes and laws, 258 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 2: and then we're assuming there'll be some statements from the government. 259 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: We're not sure what else is on the agenda. We've 260 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:46,239 Speaker 2: got a GBD motion, which is an opposition motion recognizing 261 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 2: our emergency service workers. That's tomorrow on Wednesday. 262 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 1: Katie, Well, selena Ubo, the opposition leader. Always good to 263 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 1: catch up with you. I really appreciate your time this morning. 264 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Katie Rank, thanks so much.