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Speaker 1: My name is josh On a Finger, bringing in Kane
Speaker 1: Richardson as always, who's probably feeling a little bit dusty
Speaker 1: after those South Australian celebrations over the weekend.
Speaker 2: How's it going mate, good mate?
Speaker 3: Yeah, pulled the as you can say, pulled the props out.
Speaker 4: On day five when I checked the score on Safari,
Speaker 4: it wasn't long after player it started just saying, oh,
Speaker 4: I wonder what the scorers?
Speaker 3: Oh, it's over.
Speaker 4: So I popped the champagne, canceled the rest of the
Speaker 4: day's plans and got amongst it. Facetimed in and it's
Speaker 4: basically like I'm there. But yeah, amazing, very very.
Speaker 2: Happy face timed in.
Speaker 3: No I didn't.
Speaker 5: That was a joke.
Speaker 3: Past players aren't welcome the Inness actum not like that.
Speaker 4: So but basically social media is like face time, yeah,
Speaker 4: isn't it?
Speaker 1: Some great videos from the rooms sing the song you
Speaker 1: were don't singing along at home?
Speaker 2: I imagine?
Speaker 4: Well I actually forgot the words, I think until because
Speaker 4: they've changed it as well. It used to be the
Speaker 4: Redbacks and now they've changed out to Soakka, so of
Speaker 4: course put the new spin on it, which they should.
Speaker 4: But yeah, great scenes are awesome to say, first time
Speaker 4: they've done it back to back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, amazing in a one hundred and fifty or something years.
Speaker 1: So congratulations to South Australia. Do you want to get
Speaker 1: into the Weekly? We don't feel like there might be
Speaker 1: a connection.
Speaker 4: Is there anyone else? Can there be anyone else apart
Speaker 4: from Bosnian? Here's the good nova?
Speaker 6: Is that?
Speaker 3: How you say it?
Speaker 2: Close enough?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: They're going through the FIFA World coming.
Speaker 4: Out, knocked Italy out, so anyway we digress, but yes,
Speaker 4: absolutely South Astralia.
Speaker 2: May they're your weekly winner. Yeah, well we'll get to
Speaker 2: that final.
Speaker 1: We're going to hear from Ryan Harris and Nathan McSweeney,
Speaker 1: who did a press conference straight after that victory, So
Speaker 1: we'll throw to them in just a little bit. My
Speaker 1: weekly when I've gone a little bit different, I've gone
Speaker 1: for Adam Zamper because you know, when you're at home
Speaker 1: with two kids, it can be hard to find time
Speaker 1: to you know, watch the shows you want to watch.
Speaker 1: And over in the PSL, he put in a really
Speaker 1: good performance and then this is what he said after
Speaker 1: taking him the Player of the Match.
Speaker 4: I'm dedicating this trophy to Jerry Seinfeld's getting me through
Speaker 4: a lot of hotel time watching his TV shows.
Speaker 2: Thanks show. So there you go.
Speaker 1: I mean, I knew he was a big Seinfeld fan Zams,
Speaker 1: but obviously when you're wrangling two kids and life back home,
Speaker 1: it's hard to do.
Speaker 2: But when you're in a hotel in Pakistan, well makes sense.
Speaker 4: Well I'll argue that I've shared house with him before
Speaker 4: and big bash and he would chuck it on at
Speaker 4: ten am, put his kids down on the mat and
Speaker 4: sit there and watch it, so it doesn't matter if
Speaker 4: kids are around or not.
Speaker 3: That's like his background. It puts him to sleep as well.
Speaker 3: After a game.
Speaker 4: Been in his room a few times. You'll have a
Speaker 4: whiskey after a game, Chuck Seinfield on the iPad and
Speaker 4: I'll be like, all right up because he wants to
Speaker 4: talk about it, like he's the Dictionary of Seinfeld. And
Speaker 4: you're like, remember the episode fifty seven. No, I haven't
Speaker 4: watched it at all, so okay, yeah, it's his thing. Okay,
Speaker 4: So he had no word for word apparently, I think
Speaker 4: it does. Yeah, amazing, Yeah, all right, well there go.
Speaker 2: A week they winner.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's get to the Sheffield Shield Final. It was
Speaker 1: South Australia winning in dramatic circumstances. On the fifth morning.
Speaker 1: Victoria needed one hundred and ninety five to win. In fact,
Speaker 1: they needed only ninety four more runs with seven wickets
Speaker 1: in hand at the end of the fourth day, but
Speaker 1: then double strike Hanscomb and Harris Firth went out in
Speaker 1: the space of a couple of balls. Victory were at
Speaker 1: the double night Watchman, and while those two survived the
Speaker 1: next day, they didn't last much longer on day five
Speaker 1: and the South Stralian quicks got the job done to
Speaker 1: go back to back.
Speaker 3: Well, it's the double strike.
Speaker 4: The night before when I saw Chris rogers speaking about
Speaker 4: it afterwards, But that feels now in hindsight, is such
Speaker 4: a pivotal moment, two experienced players.
Speaker 3: You spoke last week about Harris.
Speaker 4: Being in the middle order now and how much of
Speaker 4: a trump card that can be. But losing them both, yeah,
Speaker 4: that night and then sending in the double night watches.
Speaker 4: They did that deep with obviously everyone pushing down the
Speaker 4: order with the night watches, but yeah, those I think
Speaker 4: that's what they're rude, those dismissals and then also the
Speaker 4: Kerry mc andrew partnership that morning, and I'm sure South
Speaker 4: Australia as they reflect, there will be the two moments
Speaker 4: that they feel like they got out of jail and
Speaker 4: Victoria will feel like they let one slip. But what
Speaker 4: an amazing game, like a five day. The wicket was great,
Speaker 4: It felt like there was always something happening. So yeah,
Speaker 4: incredible some guys again enhance their stocks, but yeah, just
Speaker 4: a really good advertisement for domestic cricket.
Speaker 1: After we saw those two play at the match in
Speaker 1: round ten and it was a pretty placid surface and
Speaker 1: big scores and spinners bowling junk timeovers. Obviously the curators
Speaker 1: have just kept something up there. Their sleeve and produced
Speaker 1: an absolute cracking pitch, so that was good to see.
Speaker 1: And yeah, that Kerrey McAndrew partnership. Those two came together
Speaker 1: at seven for one hundred and twenty two. South Australia
Speaker 1: were only leading by fifty nine at that point, but
Speaker 1: Cary was given the singles so he got off strikes
Speaker 1: straight away pretty much every over and then McAndrew lasted
Speaker 1: for one hundred and forty four balls made sixty even
Speaker 1: though he was on one leg. He was really struggling
Speaker 1: to bowl in that first innings and then of course
Speaker 1: when the matress on the line and the second ding,
Speaker 1: there was no signs to that whatsoever. I think he
Speaker 1: said afterwards like the courtzone was just getting him through.
Speaker 1: He's a real warrior and had his coach Ryan Harris
Speaker 1: saying that he should be closer to Test selection.
Speaker 4: Well we did talk about that last week, didn't he
Speaker 4: That he's kind of that age profile now where it's
Speaker 4: kind of now and ever, and if he does get
Speaker 4: to the end of his career and doesn't play for Australia,
Speaker 4: I'm sure he'll not feel like he didn't leave anything
Speaker 4: to chance. He's, like you said, he's a worry he
Speaker 4: backs up all the time. He's resilient. He started his
Speaker 4: first class career, you know, in his late two so
Speaker 4: he's made up for lost time in this past, especially
Speaker 4: in the past three years. I think he's basically led
Speaker 4: the shield stats. So what an amazing recruitment from SA
Speaker 4: to get someone like that. And there's been a bit
Speaker 4: of talk again as there was last year, about how
Speaker 4: many of the guys are from interstate, But you can
Speaker 4: only you know if they want to come play for
Speaker 4: you and they're not going to gain for their home stay.
Speaker 4: I think that's that's shrewd recruiting and you give them
Speaker 4: an opportunity when no one else will. So he's taken
Speaker 4: it with both ends and he's putting together a serious
Speaker 4: first class career now. So I'm sure what Ryan Harris
Speaker 4: says will hold some weight when you know that brutal
Speaker 4: test schedule gets underway in August this year?
Speaker 1: What don't we hear from Nathan McSweeney and Ryan Harris,
Speaker 1: which also included the coach saying that this year surprisingly
Speaker 1: was a more special victory than their draft breaking one
Speaker 1: last year.
Speaker 2: So here they are.
Speaker 7: Tracking game are thoughts yesterday? When you're seven for only
Speaker 7: leading by sixty other.
Speaker 8: Yeah, very nervous thinking maybe the game has just slipped
Speaker 8: through our hands. But always you know, kezen Maka to
Speaker 8: be able to spend so much time in the middle
Speaker 8: and chip.
Speaker 9: Away you know, at a at a title.
Speaker 8: Saying you know, one thirty one forties and half, you know,
Speaker 8: and then to get I think one ninety five ahead.
Speaker 8: You know, it just gave us so much momentum and
Speaker 8: something to really bowl at.
Speaker 9: And you know, our quicks have been great.
Speaker 8: All year, probably the last you know, three or four years,
Speaker 8: so to give them the ball and.
Speaker 9: Go to work was fantastic to see.
Speaker 7: I'm pleasing to I guess have at least carry back
Speaker 7: in the side to shield five times now.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mentioned it just before, but I think anytime
Speaker 8: he in particular where's you know, a baggy red and
Speaker 8: plays with the sacker. He you know, he's made so
Speaker 8: many runs for us in the.
Speaker 9: Last couple of years.
Speaker 8: You know, he's obviously on field performances are great, but
Speaker 8: off the field he's just as important. So good to
Speaker 8: have in my corner as a captain, just to bounce
Speaker 8: ideas off. You know. He brings a real calmness to
Speaker 8: the group and you know, we're very lucky to have
Speaker 8: him and he's always up for it, always up to play,
Speaker 8: and we're so lucky to have him in our team.
Speaker 2: Just guess on.
Speaker 7: Leam Scott's development last twenty four months and two really
Speaker 7: crucial Wi gets there the side.
Speaker 9: Few guys, Yeah, Scotty.
Speaker 8: You know, anyone that was here will know what the
Speaker 8: breeze was like the first few days. And for him
Speaker 8: to push up into the breeze all game to Nale's
Speaker 8: length to make batter his play consistently beat the bat.
Speaker 8: It is fantastic to see him get some reward late
Speaker 8: last night and this morning.
Speaker 9: So very lucky for me as a captain to hand
Speaker 9: him the ball.
Speaker 8: You know he won't you know that he'll control the scoreboard,
Speaker 8: he'll footballs in the right area, and today he got
Speaker 8: the reward, which is very pleasing to see.
Speaker 10: Question for both of you, there were so many moments
Speaker 10: and turning points in this game, but could have gone
Speaker 10: by the way so many times.
Speaker 4: Just for both of you, was the one particular moment
Speaker 4: where you win.
Speaker 2: That's what we's you know, that's where it esed.
Speaker 10: Is there anything that stuck out stood out? Probably last
Speaker 10: night with Harrison Hanskin.
Speaker 3: That was probably one for me.
Speaker 10: I reckon ten minutes before they were thinking if they
Speaker 10: get through tonight, we don't get at least one of them.
Speaker 10: It would have been tougher this morning, no doubt. But
Speaker 10: I think to get to know blakes who have played
Speaker 10: Test cricket, came bat long long time, about a long
Speaker 10: time and on again on a nice wicket with an
Speaker 10: old ball. That was sort of the turning for and
Speaker 10: I think to be able to to get them sixteen
Speaker 10: and nine minutes before stumps was was was pretty good.
Speaker 10: I think that was prob the turning point on top
Speaker 10: of probably the I mean the partnership. Obviously I was
Speaker 10: got asson to a position where we had a target
Speaker 10: to bowl at. But I reckon for me, that was
Speaker 10: probably last night.
Speaker 7: I speak last year about to stay and success. What's
Speaker 7: what's the next?
Speaker 2: Now? Number three will be nice.
Speaker 10: I'm going to enjoy this one first because this is
Speaker 10: as I was saying a couple player out there. Coaching
Speaker 10: for me last year was easy. You know, we had
Speaker 10: three last year virtually any not many injuries. Nathan went
Speaker 10: up to the Test team for a couple of games.
Speaker 10: We had carry back for a lot of that as
Speaker 10: we have this year. At the back end it was easy.
Speaker 10: This year was bloody hard and this is that's what
Speaker 10: probably makes this a little bit more special in terms
Speaker 10: of last year. Last year playing at home with all
Speaker 10: those people around was the state was just amazing. To
Speaker 10: come over here and do it in Victoria, which is
Speaker 10: as I said from the start, it's bloody good. But
Speaker 10: for this group and the organization, and you know, I've
Speaker 10: had the CEO, I've had a general manager count twin,
Speaker 10: so we've already won. Whether we won today, we've already won.
Speaker 10: We've been here. And the verstility of being you know,
Speaker 10: the trouble we've had during the year with players it
Speaker 10: was this year today is just more special. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 10: it's amazing. Stick I did an interview straight off the game.
Speaker 10: It's a bit emotional about it, but just so proud
Speaker 10: of these blokes and not just these guys, sorrow the
Speaker 10: whole group. You know, we've got twenty six guys. Heady's
Speaker 10: played two games this year. I know he'd be you know,
Speaker 10: he's sitting in India watching this, so I think just
Speaker 10: the whole group is I'm.
Speaker 1: Just so proud of they are two very chuffed individuals,
Speaker 1: back to back winners, and immediately they're just they've put
Speaker 1: themselves into the annals of South Stralia.
Speaker 2: Cock with these two victories.
Speaker 1: I was a bit surprised that Harris was so intent.
Speaker 1: I'm saying that this win was better than last year
Speaker 1: because obviously there was all that emotion around last year.
Speaker 1: But then when I heard him explain it and that
Speaker 1: the injuries are winning away first time a team has
Speaker 1: won that or done that in a decade, it makes
Speaker 1: sense that this one means more.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think managing through what he said, the injuries and
Speaker 4: the schedule, they haven't lost the game since October.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they've drawn a lot of cricket. They've done
Speaker 3: it the hard way.
Speaker 4: But also I actually messaged him last night, but it
Speaker 4: resonated last year when he was up accepting the trophy.
Speaker 4: How he said that he hopes it's not a long
Speaker 4: time waiting for the next one, and I reckon a
Speaker 4: lot of guys in that position. You've just broken a
Speaker 4: thirty year drought. I think that's the last thing in
Speaker 4: your mind. But I reckon for him because he used
Speaker 4: to play for South Australia through one of those periods
Speaker 4: where we didn't win anything, we didn't.
Speaker 3: Look like we were a basketcase. I reckon for.
Speaker 4: Him to then think in the moment, no, I want
Speaker 4: to be here again next year, and I reckon that
Speaker 4: would have resonated with a lot of other people and
Speaker 4: typical South Stralia usually when something's good, we're comfortable and
Speaker 4: content with that. But I think his attitude is not,
Speaker 4: we want more, so to back that up and be
Speaker 4: the first. Well they're the first South Australian team in
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty years, So for him to say
Speaker 4: that it does mean more, it does make sense, and
Speaker 4: it's kind of that new attitude that he's brought to
Speaker 4: that team. They don't give up, they keep fighting. When
Speaker 4: I was at South Australia, as long as I was
Speaker 4: at South Australia, they were words that were never used
Speaker 4: to describe the South Astralian cricket team really and when
Speaker 4: I left, I think that's something that he's brought with him,
Speaker 4: and I reckon that just shows how much he's made
Speaker 4: an impact on that team.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what about I mean, there's ways to describe teams,
Speaker 1: but internally, I mean, I'm sure those words would have
Speaker 1: been used it.
Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely all.
Speaker 4: Everyone talks about each other and in this sanctum as
Speaker 4: glowing only as possible. But it doesn't matter what you think.
Speaker 4: It's what the opposition think or what the cricket community
Speaker 4: think of you. And you know, for ten years we
Speaker 4: were winning wooden spoons consistently. So like I said, for
Speaker 4: him to come in break the drought, but then also
Speaker 4: be like, we're not happy with just breaking the drought.
Speaker 3: Let's keep doing this.
Speaker 4: And they've got an opportunity, them and Victoria if you
Speaker 4: look at it, like with the young players they've both got,
Speaker 4: there's no excuse to not be back there again.
Speaker 3: So yeah, such an impressive coach.
Speaker 1: A lot of props have to go to Alex Carey
Speaker 1: as well. By reports, turned down a PSL deal to
Speaker 1: make sure that he was playing in the Sheffield Shield.
Speaker 1: Finally he became just third player to hit centuries in
Speaker 1: consecutive finals and both with victories of course, and he's
Speaker 1: certainly done a lot to enhance his reputation even further.
Speaker 1: I mean we had a few weeks ago Irene, I
Speaker 1: think it was nominate Carry as a big game player. Wow,
Speaker 1: this just underlines it once again. And he's done it
Speaker 1: again following on from that Adelaide Oval century earlier in
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 4: Well, we probably that chat, the big game players chat
Speaker 4: and the statues chat, we've probably left.
Speaker 3: We've probably had it too early.
Speaker 4: If we had it this week, I think his name
Speaker 4: front and seer would be out there. Get him a
Speaker 4: statue at it Adelaide Oval with Heady. So I think
Speaker 4: it definitely means something to him, Like when I look
Speaker 4: at that team like him, Jake Lehman, and then I'll
Speaker 4: throw those guys that were there mc Andrew mc sweeney.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to think of the guys that came across
Speaker 4: Henry Hunt kind of in the before Ryan Harris arrived
Speaker 4: and things started.
Speaker 2: To change, maybe Buckingham.
Speaker 4: Yeah, those guys they saw what it was like as
Speaker 4: it was, you know, they were trying to spring up
Speaker 4: the ladder, so they've Alex has been around a long time.
Speaker 4: He's gone back to the Darren Berry days, so you
Speaker 4: know that's a guy who's seen it both sides, and
Speaker 4: for him to go back and play the final and
Speaker 4: perform as well as he has it obviously means something
Speaker 4: to him. So yeah, legacy enhancing summer for Alex carry.
Speaker 1: Absolutely now I want to get your thoughts on the
Speaker 1: injury substitute which we saw coming to play in the
Speaker 1: third evening. Mitch Perry came in for the injured Sam
Speaker 1: Elliott got a wicket with the first ball. McSweeney did
Speaker 1: not for a shot, left out Australia three thirty five
Speaker 1: and in a lot of trouble. But it did ask
Speaker 1: It did have the cricket community asking questions about, well,
Speaker 1: how can we have a fresh bowler coming in to
Speaker 1: play on the thirty Any thoughts on that strong thoughts or.
Speaker 3: Well, it's been there all year, hasn't it and it's.
Speaker 1: Still a trial. We must say that they're just testing
Speaker 1: it out. But it could have had a huge impact.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it could have.
Speaker 4: I don't like it. We don't like I don't like
Speaker 4: it personally. I think, yeah, like you said, to have
Speaker 4: a bowler come in fresh. I know it's not their fault.
Speaker 4: I know why it happened, but that's part of four
Speaker 4: day cricket is if you do go a man down
Speaker 4: early on, it's just you know, you've got to fight
Speaker 4: even harder and it's kind of the balance of your team.
Speaker 4: When you select an eleven at the start of the
Speaker 4: game is to hopefully cover basis of you know, if
Speaker 4: you go a quick down or a spin or whatever
Speaker 4: it is, that you've got a good enough team to
Speaker 4: cover that. So I must admit I don't like it.
Speaker 4: I didn't also like that, well I did and didn't
Speaker 4: like that. Ryan Harris thought, well, you know, can we
Speaker 4: should we do the same? We've got where's Aga sitting
Speaker 4: there on the bench And yeah, that just to me
Speaker 4: is not what first class and four or five day
Speaker 4: crickets should be about. I think it is once the
Speaker 4: coin goes up, you're into it, and that's the eleven
Speaker 4: that have the opportunity. And if your twelfth man you
Speaker 4: are like you're dant, aren't you? And I know the
Speaker 4: concussion sub is probably different, but there was some stories
Speaker 4: that he wasn't even allowed to warm up in the nets,
Speaker 4: Like the umpires were saying to Mitch Berry, you can't
Speaker 4: warm up in the nets. So if you're going to
Speaker 4: have this rule, let's keep some common sense about it.
Speaker 4: They wouldn't let Ben Row of subfield when you know
Speaker 4: the real twelfth man was off playing club like it's
Speaker 4: just a mess. So if you're going to have this rule,
Speaker 4: have some understanding and some common sense around it, because
Speaker 4: that's pretty fast.
Speaker 1: Cool definitely, and because teams get the right to match.
Speaker 1: As you said, South Australia don't need an injury if
Speaker 1: Victoria used their injury sub how stiff would you be
Speaker 1: if you're one of those bowlers from South Australia who
Speaker 1: maybe we didn't bowl the best in the first innings,
Speaker 1: now we get subbed out without a chance to redeem
Speaker 1: yourself in the second.
Speaker 4: Well, that's absolutely right, and I think that's again the
Speaker 4: beauty of fourde cricket is you get that second innings
Speaker 4: to kind of make amends if you do have a
Speaker 4: poor first inning.
Speaker 3: So that's what Ryan Harris said.
Speaker 4: He he was happy with how they bowled in the
Speaker 4: first innings and he didn't feel like walking up to
Speaker 4: someone saying move over, you know, a guys coming in
Speaker 4: or whoever it was, is the right thing to do.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just don't like that conversation at all.
Speaker 4: I understand why it's been there all year to trial,
Speaker 4: but I don't think it's got a future personally. I
Speaker 4: just don't like that whole conversation around it. You've you've
Speaker 4: flipped the coin and then you're into it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, well we'll agree. I agree. I totally agree.
Speaker 2: That's good, no doubt for me here.
Speaker 1: But we'll see what Cricket Australia want to do next season.
Speaker 1: It's sort of on their balls in their court. And
Speaker 1: obviously we'll see what the ICC have thought about this
Speaker 1: trail as well, because they've been watching it as well.
Speaker 4: So was it any other competition in the world. No,
Speaker 4: not the minute, but don't countergree you don't do it na.
Speaker 1: I believe they were given the opportunity to bring it
Speaker 1: in for this season, but yeah, I don't think they've
Speaker 1: decided to do that.
Speaker 3: I don't think it makes sense in any format.
Speaker 2: Well, we have the impact player, but even.
Speaker 4: That becomes there's talk around that just not being you know,
Speaker 4: teams back way too long and changing the product of
Speaker 4: the game. Teams are making two undred and eighty. I
Speaker 4: don't think that's a good thing either, So again, what's
Speaker 4: wrong with that? You could have two different sheets for
Speaker 4: batting and bowling. Maybe that's a thing, but you know,
Speaker 4: there's nothing wrong. We've survived as long as we have
Speaker 4: with Bara Evans and just working it out.
Speaker 1: I also think there's too much opportunity to game the
Speaker 1: system with injury subs.
Speaker 4: And I mean we're not saying that happened in this
Speaker 4: case totally, but I do agree, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and maybe teams bring in a replacement who is
Speaker 1: a better batter than their It's never liked for life,
Speaker 1: it's never exactly like life, So tough one. I gave
Speaker 1: you a bit of homework as well during the week,
Speaker 1: given the talk of Nathan McAndrew being close to Australine
Speaker 1: selection and what we saw three pacemen outside of the
Speaker 1: Big three play for Australia over the Ashes series in
Speaker 1: Brenda Dogget, Michael Nice and Jay Richardson. I want to
Speaker 1: ask you if we were picking Cummens, Hazelwood, Stark and
Speaker 1: Boland as the first four selection, did who would be
Speaker 1: the next four in line? So for picking an Australia
Speaker 1: a squad to play, let's say a Perth Test fast
Speaker 1: and bouncy plan on offer for the fast bowlers. Who,
Speaker 1: if we're picking it today, who's getting picked?
Speaker 3: So so I can't pick the those four.
Speaker 1: You can't pick the Big four because they're playing for Australia.
Speaker 1: So who's for Australia.
Speaker 4: Well, I've the homework you gave me I didn't take
Speaker 4: those names into consideration. You just mentioned the ones who
Speaker 4: played in the ashes, just gone, so dog it, Oh
Speaker 4: you can use them. I feel like they're in the
Speaker 4: they're in the main squad, so they're available there, they're
Speaker 4: training getting ready.
Speaker 2: I like that.
Speaker 4: Okay, So my attack is Fergus O'Nell and Nathan McAndrew
Speaker 4: one and two, one and two.
Speaker 3: They're up in the bowling.
Speaker 4: I'm going to give you a This is a twelve,
Speaker 4: So this is my bowling group. In the twelve, you
Speaker 4: can pick the team. Okay, perfect.
Speaker 3: So I'm going to give you four quicks, a spinner
Speaker 3: and an all rounder.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, O'Neill and mckendrew, Liam Hatcher really and Riley Meredith.
Speaker 3: Okay, Corey rock Shelly is your.
Speaker 4: Spinner and Liam Scott your boy. So he's obviously in.
Speaker 4: But he's the all rounder. So again, so one of
Speaker 4: those guys gets injured in the game, Scott, his workload
Speaker 4: goes through the roof. That's why you pick an all around.
Speaker 4: That's why you have an allrounder or a spinner. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and a spinner. So there, my that's my attack. There's
Speaker 4: there's guys that are stiff. There's you know Mitch Perry,
Speaker 4: Sam Elliott that we spoke about. Gabe Bell had a
Speaker 4: good year. Shout out Cameron Gannon who played every single
Speaker 4: game as the thirty seven year old fast bowler by
Speaker 4: the way, So there's some unlucky guys there. Matt Kelly
Speaker 4: had a good first half of the year. But if
Speaker 4: I'm picking and I was a squad, they're my bowlers.
Speaker 2: And took to me about the Raley Meredith selection.
Speaker 4: Well, I've always been a big fan. He played five
Speaker 4: games this year, so small, small samples. Half the year
Speaker 4: he took thirty wickets, Yeah right, and I just I
Speaker 4: just feel like he should be in the conversation more
Speaker 4: for Australia all formats, clearly.
Speaker 3: Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 4: I did think that was a while there where he
Speaker 4: was wasted playing your career. I felt like he was
Speaker 4: burning his white ball stuff getting injured all the time.
Speaker 4: But I feel like his age now he should be
Speaker 4: past those things. He's always going to be at risk.
Speaker 4: He bowls one hundred and fifty k's now, so he's
Speaker 4: always going to be at risk. But that skill set
Speaker 4: I reckon, like Lence Maris, when he's fit, you just
Speaker 4: have to give them as many opportunities as possible with
Speaker 4: your bill they have, so yeah, he's he showed enough
Speaker 4: this year in first class cricket to be around the mark.
Speaker 1: I've got another step fear on Meredith as well. From
Speaker 1: those thirty wickets, ten of those were bold, which is
Speaker 1: obviously a third, so.
Speaker 3: You had him well, I've obviously done.
Speaker 1: Some racist looking at his wickets. Bout to have thirty
Speaker 1: of your wickets bold. That was the highest percentage in
Speaker 1: the Shield this season, so pretty good.
Speaker 2: That's pace.
Speaker 4: I think he's just like Big bash t twenty. He's
Speaker 4: shown he keeps getting better. He's just he's become consistent
Speaker 4: and he doesn't get a whole lot of opportunity in
Speaker 4: first clas career because he often has managed rested hoe
Speaker 4: about hurricanes.
Speaker 3: You know you've got to look after him.
Speaker 4: But I think if he played seven eight first class
Speaker 4: games a year, he'd be amongst the highest wicket takers always.
Speaker 4: And it's just again that skills that you want guys
Speaker 4: like that in your team. So I don't know how
Speaker 4: old he is, but I still feel like he's late twenties.
Speaker 4: He's got a bit of time on his side, and.
Speaker 1: From New South Wales obviously Liam Hatcher had a career
Speaker 1: best year so far. He led all comers with forty
Speaker 1: four wickets in the Shield. Does he pick like a
Speaker 1: fellow in New South Walesshman like Sean Abbott's for that spot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think from just talking to people this year,
Speaker 4: the year he had. It's not based purely off stats
Speaker 4: which helps. But he was leading wicket taker, but he
Speaker 4: just didn't go away. I think he backed up in games.
Speaker 4: He would just keep coming in. He would never relent.
Speaker 4: He'd be the guy had the bowl bouncers. You know
Speaker 4: from memory that's a tough job like having to do that.
Speaker 4: You know, he he did it, he did it well
Speaker 4: and he kept performing. So I think he's probably a
Speaker 4: guy that with New South Wales changing coach, I reckon,
Speaker 4: that's one you're looking in as the leader of your
Speaker 4: bowling attack now going forward. So probably surprised a few
Speaker 4: people based off one good year, but I think there's
Speaker 4: again a good skill set there. He bowls quick enough,
Speaker 4: he just doesn't go away, and they're the guys you
Speaker 4: want in your team.
Speaker 1: Excellent, Okay, we'll lock those floor in and debate away away.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: Why don't we take a quick break for show when
Speaker 1: are we going to come back, we'll talk about our
Speaker 1: breakout picks for the year, the players who were doing
Speaker 1: their thing in the PSL and the Aussie women dominating
Speaker 1: in the Caravan. So earlier in the year we selected
Speaker 1: a range of players who we thought might be breakout
Speaker 1: players for this season.
Speaker 2: Richo and I think it was back in September.
Speaker 1: Or a while ago, maybe even August, and so we
Speaker 1: put our next on the line and we've selected some
Speaker 1: players and well.
Speaker 2: They haven't all been hits. There have been some hits
Speaker 2: in there, and.
Speaker 1: So we might just circle back to those now seats
Speaker 1: the receipts exactly. There were a few obvious ones who
Speaker 1: we missed who I did make an note of. Liam
Speaker 1: Hatcher was of course one of those. None of us
Speaker 1: picked him, but he had a fantastic season. Tim Ward
Speaker 1: in all three formats was very good.
Speaker 2: Who else?
Speaker 1: Rachael Trenaman came into the Test squad fantastic talent from Tasmania.
Speaker 1: And Annie Wickman as well from the Act had a
Speaker 1: great season. There was one ails who I had on
Speaker 1: that list I'm now blanking on, but we can come back.
Speaker 1: So take it away. Who were you happy with from
Speaker 1: your selection.
Speaker 4: Well, mine were Jack Edwards, Brodie Couch, Millie Illingworth, Marley
Speaker 4: Bidman and Jordan Buckingham. So I remember I think we
Speaker 4: spoke about it, some parameters around it because you could
Speaker 4: pick her Anna Belle Sutherland, does it breakout if you
Speaker 4: wanted to, but she had broken out already, So my
Speaker 4: thought was there on the cusp of Australian selection that
Speaker 4: was kind of my and the Couch one you could
Speaker 4: say is probably far fetched, but I originally had cal
Speaker 4: Vidler as I think that's right. Jack may have had
Speaker 4: or that's right, and so it was a late change
Speaker 4: and I feel like he was going to have a
Speaker 4: big year for w A with.
Speaker 3: Lance Marris being injured.
Speaker 4: He had a decent shield season but probably didn't nail
Speaker 4: the Big Bash like he wanted. But my star will
Speaker 4: be Jack Edwards. So first hand watching him at the
Speaker 4: sixers the Big Bash can painting put together, I think
Speaker 4: he surprised himself but also everyone at how consistent and
Speaker 4: dependable he became with the ball, which he hadn't shown.
Speaker 4: He'd shown glimpses, but to be bowling, powerplay, surge, death, power,
Speaker 4: hitting at the end safe our hands just showed the
Speaker 4: whole package, which he had been there's been glimpses for
Speaker 4: a while, gets his first Australian cap, So tick that
Speaker 4: one off. That was my kind of thought process. He's
Speaker 4: he going to push away for austra Marley Pibman also did,
Speaker 4: but I think that was an easy tick for everyone
Speaker 4: we got all picked him and probably known.
Speaker 1: So how hard is it to bowl in all three
Speaker 1: phases of T twenty cricket? Not many players can do it, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough, especially the Big Bash with the surge,
Speaker 4: just having four phases, four faces. Yeah you could, Yeah,
Speaker 4: it is, it is so Oh, it's so hard. I
Speaker 4: think for someone like that as well. Whenever I did,
Speaker 4: I didn't have the stress of having to also bat
Speaker 4: middle order or power hit at the end. So his
Speaker 4: training and his prep for a game would be double
Speaker 4: the amount of what what I remember doing. So it's
Speaker 4: a large workload. But if he can sustain that again,
Speaker 4: and they're going to hope he can. You know that
Speaker 4: they're the guys who don't grow on trees. They're Diame
Speaker 4: ad dozen So big future for him, but yeah, big summer.
Speaker 2: And he's been around for a long time. Sold is
Speaker 2: he Well?
Speaker 4: I think that was the appeal of the selection as well,
Speaker 4: is that captain New South I was and fort a cricket.
Speaker 3: He's been around.
Speaker 4: I remember playing him what feels like ten years ago,
Speaker 4: but he's twenty six. I wasn't ten years ago. So yeah,
Speaker 4: been around long enough that he was going to finally
Speaker 4: start nailing it. So probably wasn't a massive call from
Speaker 4: me in hindsight.
Speaker 2: As you said though.
Speaker 1: He made his T twenty debut and Pakistan just last
Speaker 1: month and then it was also named in the BBL
Speaker 1: Team of the Tournament, so that's a pretty good sign.
Speaker 4: There and IPL paycheck half a million dollars. Unfortunately he's
Speaker 4: injured and that's probably the one thing he's a little
Speaker 4: bit now he's going to have to contend with. But
Speaker 4: anytime you're getting picked in the IPL for decent coin,
Speaker 4: he's almost like being picked for Australian in terms of
Speaker 4: you're a wanted commodity.
Speaker 1: So big summer, great well done, Jack and Rich I
Speaker 1: think you So my selection were Liam Scott, Caleb Jewell, Lockey,
Speaker 1: Hern Sophie day Sien and Ginger And it's hard to
Speaker 1: go past Lamb Scott, isn't it. Sheffield should player of
Speaker 1: the tournament obviously in that team of the tournament as well.
Speaker 1: I mean he's made in first class century, he's got
Speaker 1: a fifer and claimed his second Shield title to a
Speaker 1: couple of key wickets as well.
Speaker 4: He had a big say in the final, didn't he
Speaker 4: as well. Yeah, just showed his verse untility again.
Speaker 1: And I think it showed a lot of people just
Speaker 1: how reliable he is with the ball, like his consistency.
Speaker 1: Obviously we were marveling at Fergus O'Neil for Victoria, who
Speaker 1: seemingly never missed the spot. Scott was equally as good
Speaker 1: as Nathan Tweeny said. He was bowling into the breeze
Speaker 1: the whole game, which you've got experience with, but a
Speaker 1: lot of fast fallals don't like doing.
Speaker 4: So Yeah, props to him. It was a great season,
Speaker 4: great pick. He's one of those guys. I remember seeing
Speaker 4: him when he came to SA. I think he came
Speaker 4: from me the New South. I was a Queensland. But
Speaker 4: there the coaches are like, he's on. That's the equivalent
Speaker 4: of a top five draft pick in footy, and somehow
Speaker 4: he's come here because he feels like he'll get an opportunity,
Speaker 4: so again, he's one of these guys that if he's
Speaker 4: in New South Wales doesn't feel like he'll get a
Speaker 4: game as quick as he wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Essay, and I remember seeing him.
Speaker 4: I was like I was a slow burn early and
Speaker 4: he was always the guy he is now is what
Speaker 4: we needed back ten years ago. He could bowl fifteen
Speaker 4: overs a day, be dependable, bat middle order again, be consistent.
Speaker 3: We didn't have that for so long.
Speaker 4: We didn't have that really ever, So sorry to the
Speaker 4: guys who I played with that tried to fill that role.
Speaker 4: But those guys who can it's like an Andrew McDonald
Speaker 4: for Victoria. For so long, that was always the guy
Speaker 4: we wanted to find and they finally got him. So
Speaker 4: and again you're talking cusp of australiage selection. There's some
Speaker 4: good all around as Bo Webster's around the mark and
Speaker 4: obviously cam Green's are going anywhere. But you're putting pressure
Speaker 4: on him with a season like that, aren't you. So
Speaker 4: I think he gets to go to England now gets
Speaker 4: his first taste accounting cricket, so again his development will
Speaker 4: keep continuing on and for him staying injury free and
Speaker 4: also keep building on that consistency. But massive tick from
Speaker 4: un Scotty and a.
Speaker 1: Good big bash campaign from him as well. Actually, so
Speaker 1: that's also another little tick I've said to that one. Yep,
Speaker 1: from Jack Painter's point of view. He's another senior writer
Speaker 1: at cricket dot com dot au. He went from Ali
Speaker 1: Beardman as well. He had Lucy Hamilton on the list,
Speaker 1: Campbell Callaway, Charlie not and Ralph McMillan. We're probably just
Speaker 1: going to have to give a tick to Lucy Hamilton there.
Speaker 1: We maybe a bit of an obvious selection, but she
Speaker 1: made her debut in all three formats at the end
Speaker 1: of this summer and dominated on test debut looks the part.
Speaker 1: She's got Captain c experience, so there's that leadership bangle
Speaker 1: as well, and yeah, she's just going to be a star.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Her debut was incredible, wasn't it. So it looked like
Speaker 4: a season pro, not someone on debut. So, like you said,
Speaker 4: it was an easy tick. But did anyone else pick her?
Speaker 10: I'm not sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Laura Jolly and Luam Cameron.
Speaker 3: Oh there you go, So it was an easy tick.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I should have copied the notes on that one maybe,
Speaker 4: but yeah, massive tick for that one.
Speaker 1: Laura Jollie went for Siena Ginger similar to me, also
Speaker 1: had Lucy Hamilton, also had Chilling Knight and then Anaka
Speaker 1: Leroid and Grace Lyons as well. I guess we'll give
Speaker 1: the ticks to Hamilton. We'll speak on their behalf, an't
Speaker 1: we We will have to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we have to.
Speaker 1: And Louis Cameron went for Lucy Hamilton again, so that's
Speaker 1: a tick blake. Nickaitaris, Tom Whitney, Aidan O'Connor, those three
Speaker 1: guys all played two Shield matches this season.
Speaker 2: Just a bit of numerology there for you.
Speaker 1: And then also went for the left field pick of
Speaker 1: Annabelle Sutherland, who claimed her second Blinda Clark Award. Obviously
Speaker 1: dominated the Test matches, but we said that she needed
Speaker 1: to be a player of the tournament the World Cup
Speaker 1: to actually grow again and she didn't quite get.
Speaker 3: There, cross but keeping on her though she's going next year.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: And so while we're talking about Annama Belle, so when
Speaker 1: she is sitting out this tour of the West Indies
Speaker 1: at Australia at the minute, but it hasn't stopped Sophi
Speaker 1: Mullenhu's team just continuing to win they won that T
Speaker 1: twenty series three. Now they've now won the first two
Speaker 1: odioiyes pretty convincingly as well, the first one by one
Speaker 1: hundred and three runs where they scored a record three
Speaker 1: hundred and forty one at the highest score ever in
Speaker 1: women's odios in the Caribbean, and then they won the
Speaker 1: second by ninety runs. Georgia ware them struggled in the
Speaker 1: T twenty series, but then player of the matching both
Speaker 1: of those first two odiis with wickets and runs. And yeah,
Speaker 1: her spot in the order seems to fluctuate quite a
Speaker 1: lot up and down, but she's flexible and she generally
Speaker 1: delivers when she gets a chance.
Speaker 3: She's gone, isn't she?
Speaker 4: And it just showed they flex their muscles in fifty
Speaker 4: over cricket again do their format?
Speaker 3: So great?
Speaker 4: Great two games do they have? So that third game
Speaker 4: they have a break before the World Cup, they get
Speaker 4: a bit of time off, so dune for that one
Speaker 4: in England. So that's a bit of a building to that.
Speaker 4: So hopefully they finished the three matches well. But yeah,
Speaker 4: great signs for the fifty over stuff. Not that they
Speaker 4: will apply in England, of course, but yeah, just like
Speaker 4: we spoke about Lizzie Heally moving on a bit of
Speaker 4: a transition period, but some younger players have come in
Speaker 4: and just shown there at home, so the future does
Speaker 4: look broight for the women's team.
Speaker 1: And Sophie Moulinu. She's in this team at the minute.
Speaker 1: She's not bowling because she can't with her injury at
Speaker 1: the minute, so it's good that she can still play
Speaker 1: and contribute, and she's been making runs and sort of
Speaker 1: batting up the order of it as well. Obviously she's captain,
Speaker 1: so she needs to be around this team and just
Speaker 1: having time in the eleven would be more valuable than
Speaker 1: trying to lead from the sidelines, I suppose.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and just being out there, as you said, captaining,
Speaker 4: building the relationship between bowler's field placings, her bowling ability
Speaker 4: will fit in wherever like that. That's just such a
Speaker 4: bonus to have. So yeah, to have her on the
Speaker 4: ground there building those relationships before the World Cup such
Speaker 4: a massive plus, rather than her sitting at home in
Speaker 4: Australia or just being on the bench there.
Speaker 1: So yeah, good science, And unlike South Australia from your ear,
Speaker 1: there's no shortage of all around us in this human's
Speaker 1: team is there. Everybody's sitting eye bowls, so they've got.
Speaker 2: Plenty of options.
Speaker 3: A good problem to have, isn't that.
Speaker 2: Absolutely.
Speaker 4: It's a good way to build a white ball team
Speaker 4: because if you know certain things aren't penning out in
Speaker 4: the day, you've got five or six other options that
Speaker 4: can fill the void. It can sometimes too many cooks
Speaker 4: in the kitchen, but if things are going well, good leadership,
Speaker 4: I'm sure it's a good problem to have.
Speaker 2: Totally. Let's get to the parcel.
Speaker 1: It felt a bit bad because we gave so much
Speaker 1: attention to the IPL on the last episode, but we've
Speaker 1: got as many Australians playing in Pakistan as we do
Speaker 1: in India this season, so let's just quickly run through
Speaker 1: who's over there. There's three Australian captains across the league,
Speaker 1: which is great to see, including Ashton Turner who's leading
Speaker 1: the Molten Sultans.
Speaker 2: He's playing there with.
Speaker 1: Steve Smith, Josh Philippi, Peter Siddll Lockey Shaw at the
Speaker 1: Krauchi Kings. We've got that man Adam Zamper from the
Speaker 1: Weekly Winner and he's captain by David Warner the Quit Gladiators.
Speaker 2: That's a pretty good nickname as well, isn't it.
Speaker 1: They've got Ben McDermott and Sam Harper who's going to
Speaker 1: arrive after playing in that Sheffield Shield final. The Hydrobrad
Speaker 1: Kingsman one of the new sides who have come in.
Speaker 1: Manus Labushane is their captain and they've also got Raley
Speaker 1: Meredith and they will soon be joined by Glenn Maxwell
Speaker 1: Royal Pindi Pindy's the other new team was mcquig is
Speaker 1: leading the charge for them. He's just been a late inclusion.
Speaker 1: Peshwaz Almi have Aaron Hardy Lahare Clelander's sorry, they have
Speaker 1: Daniel Sam's. They've provided the Melbourne Stars with quite a
Speaker 1: few players over the years, the Colanders and Islamabad United.
Speaker 1: They've got Chris Green, so lots and lots of players
Speaker 1: to be across. I've seen that there's been some action
Speaker 1: on foxtewel and ko Sports if you want to catch
Speaker 1: some of the Pacel No crowds of course, which is
Speaker 1: a shame because of the fuel and oil crisis at
Speaker 1: the minute, but plenty of Ozzi's strutting their stuff.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a few games in so I'm trying to
Speaker 4: think whose exams has started well, like he's man of
Speaker 4: the match chat that you threw to right, my boy,
Speaker 4: Riley Meredith had a good game taking weeks. Josh Philippe
Speaker 4: started well on Ashton Turner, as he said as captain.
Speaker 4: So it's on my those guys who, if you're not
Speaker 4: in the IPL, reckoning to go and play a quality
Speaker 4: competition at the exact same time. And like you said,
Speaker 4: the Sam Harper's these guys who haven't had an opportunity
Speaker 4: to play franchise cricket all of a sudden thrown into
Speaker 4: what is a really good league over there.
Speaker 3: So it's unfortunate crowds aren't there because it's a.
Speaker 4: Bit of a COVID film. We don't want to go
Speaker 4: back to that. But still quality cricket. Quality cricket is throughout.
Speaker 4: So I'm not sure the time's own, but if you
Speaker 4: can tune.
Speaker 1: In, well Harper was the other breakout player that we missed.
Speaker 3: He I thought you mentioned him, did I mention it?
Speaker 2: Well, neither of us picked it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he had a fantastic season, didn't he all
Speaker 1: three formats, A memorable century on Boxing Day.
Speaker 3: Memorable. I remember that for the rest of my life.
Speaker 4: But also the shield he backed that up, did open
Speaker 4: in the batting Sons.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and some good runs in the One Day Cup
Speaker 1: as well. So I mean, who knows if we get
Speaker 1: to a tour and we need another backup keeper. Well
Speaker 1: he's putting his hand right.
Speaker 3: I never have too many of those, can you.
Speaker 1: No, you can't, Cameron Green, he's not bowling in the
Speaker 1: IPL at the in the Cricket Australia said he's just
Speaker 1: got a little back niggle at the minute. So they're
Speaker 1: being ultra cautious given he had that serious back surgery
Speaker 1: about eighteen months ago now, and that's fair enough. If
Speaker 1: he doesn't bowl in the first fortnight of this tournament,
Speaker 1: well it's an eight week tournament or something is that,
Speaker 1: so he's got plenty of time to build into that.
Speaker 1: But there were a few questions surrounding that. So good
Speaker 1: to see that they're just easing him back into that.
Speaker 4: I'm sure there was some conversation. I'm not sure this
Speaker 4: just happened overnight. I'm sure there was, Like you know,
Speaker 4: some dialogue has been had in the lead up. So,
Speaker 4: but what a gig he has to about just about
Speaker 4: three on four mil. That's a great gig. Just stroll
Speaker 4: out there in the powerplay, struck a few around, put
Speaker 4: the fielding boots on, chill it cover.
Speaker 3: It's a great gig.
Speaker 4: So nah, But like I jokingly said on the part timers,
Speaker 4: and we had the him and T twenty cricket at
Speaker 4: part time, but we do need him bowling more. I
Speaker 4: think like his skill set again, especially whitebool cricket. His
Speaker 4: batting's great, but to throw him the ball again, like
Speaker 4: we said with the women team, he can never have
Speaker 4: too many of that player, so hopefully his body can
Speaker 4: get over those things because he need him bowling.
Speaker 3: He bowls one hundred footy k's. He started his career
Speaker 3: as a bowler and sield cricket.
Speaker 1: His numbers are great, So is it fair to say
Speaker 1: we haven't seen the best of him bowling at international level?
Speaker 3: There's been glimpses in test matches.
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, which again like the Leam Scott conversation,
Speaker 4: just great to have someone that you can throw ten
Speaker 4: overs to and he's he could if he wanted to
Speaker 4: be a frontline quick he probably could have been in
Speaker 4: a different career.
Speaker 3: But he's batting is so good that it's taken.
Speaker 2: The Yeah, we came into the wa side.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think he took a first class five
Speaker 4: for in maybe his second or third game. So yeah,
Speaker 4: it's funny how things. It's a bit of Shane Watson
Speaker 4: trajectory in terms of the batting has taken over his time.
Speaker 4: But it would be such a waste to not have
Speaker 4: someone like that being able to bowl as well, and
Speaker 4: especially in white wool cricket. To have him it doesn't
Speaker 4: have to be ten overs in one day, as it
Speaker 4: doesn't have to be four in a T twenty, but
Speaker 4: to throw him an over or two in a T twenty,
Speaker 4: or you know, a spell in a one day, just
Speaker 4: in the middle when nothing else is happening, it's pretty handy.
Speaker 4: So hopefully you can get that body right.
Speaker 1: So we might see him opening the batting with Simon
Speaker 1: Cattich soon in Test cricket. Is Alread's saying if he's
Speaker 1: following the Watson trajectory.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's not what I meant. I'll leave that one
Speaker 3: alone all right.
Speaker 1: Now the under nineteen women, there's going to be cricket
Speaker 1: happening all throughout April in Australia. Kristen Beams and Meg
Speaker 1: Lanning they are going to be coaching the new squad
Speaker 1: of Australian stars. They've got a T twenty World Cup
Speaker 1: coming up next year and so they've playing against England
Speaker 1: and Sri Lanka over the next month. I had a
Speaker 1: quick chat to those two coaches about what's coming up
Speaker 1: and which are the players we should be looking out for,
Speaker 1: and here they are now. April May sing all the
Speaker 1: end of cricket season for some, but not for a
Speaker 1: squad of Australia's best young female cricketers. Former Australian League
Speaker 1: spinner Kristen Beams is head coach of the Australian under nineteens.
Speaker 1: They've got games against England and shank are coming up
Speaker 1: and she'll be assisted by Meg Lanning as well in
Speaker 1: the coaching department there. So welcome to the Unplayable podcast.
Speaker 2: You too, Christin.
Speaker 1: Why don't we start with you tell us about this
Speaker 1: try series that's coming up.
Speaker 11: Thanks for having us.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a really great opportunity this Try series, and
Speaker 6: we've tried a lot of TRY series in the under
Speaker 6: nineteen space.
Speaker 11: I think it's great preparation for match play leading into
Speaker 11: World Cups.
Speaker 6: But to have great opposition in England and Sri Lanka
Speaker 6: joining us in a series that's got both fifty over
Speaker 6: and T twenty cricket we think is the right style
Speaker 6: of preparation for a World Cup, but also to help
Speaker 6: them with those development pieces to hopefully go on and
Speaker 6: be a part of multi format series for Australia moving forward.
Speaker 6: So it's an opportunity within twelve months of a World
Speaker 6: Cup to actually go and play against really good opposition,
Speaker 6: try some things.
Speaker 11: At the back end of a season, which is a
Speaker 11: really cool time.
Speaker 6: They've made some great gains already across the season, a
Speaker 6: chance to go and show off their skills.
Speaker 1: Now you mentioned that World Cup a couple of times there,
Speaker 1: Bangaldesh and Nepal. That's next year. Is that what the
Speaker 1: focus for this series is is on or looking at
Speaker 1: other things as well.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's a little bit of a mixture.
Speaker 6: This group of players that we have here all eligible
Speaker 6: to go to the under ninety World Cup, so that's
Speaker 6: a really nice piece that's ahead of them as well.
Speaker 6: But we look even further ahead for these series as well.
Speaker 6: It's not just about leading into a World Cup. It's
Speaker 6: obviously great to have that preparation and to go into
Speaker 6: those World Cup and learn tournament play and try and
Speaker 6: find ways to win and win a World Cup with
Speaker 6: think there's great development in that, but also to think
Speaker 6: forward to some skills and development pieces that they might
Speaker 6: need to be successful in WBBL and WNCL cricket and
Speaker 6: going on to being future Australian players. So what are
Speaker 6: all those building blocks that's going to help them to
Speaker 6: make gains in their playing career. And you know, hopefully
Speaker 6: we've seen some of these girls play WNCL cricket already,
Speaker 6: so some of them are already getting exposed at a
Speaker 6: pretty young age.
Speaker 1: They've got Meg on as development coach here. How did
Speaker 1: that recruitment take place? Was that you're doing or has
Speaker 1: Meg put a hand up? How did that all work out?
Speaker 11: I actually think it was a little bit of that.
Speaker 5: Look.
Speaker 6: I think when you're thinking about people that you want
Speaker 6: in and around our best young players, I think it's
Speaker 6: a bit of a no brainer to have Meg involved,
Speaker 6: and I think on multiple fronts. I think the way
Speaker 6: she thinks about the game as a captain and being
Speaker 6: able to mentor a group of young leaders who are
Speaker 6: really at the start of their journey and understanding leadership
Speaker 6: is a really special part.
Speaker 11: But also from that batting piece as well, I think
Speaker 11: working with Lisa Kyley.
Speaker 6: I think it's such a great mixture of experiences in
Speaker 6: different styles that's going to be really helpful for players.
Speaker 6: So I think there's probably a few nervous girls thinking
Speaker 6: about talking to Meg Lanning over the next three weeks.
Speaker 6: But I think for me personally, as somebody I played
Speaker 6: a lot of cricket with and had a great working
Speaker 6: relationship as bowler captain, I think that's really crucial for
Speaker 6: players moving forward, So no brainer for me to kind
Speaker 6: of pester about it. We had her at the Landing
Speaker 6: Perry last year, which is funny in itself because it's
Speaker 6: camp named after her.
Speaker 11: But I think to have her involved and to bring
Speaker 11: a you know, on this journey.
Speaker 6: And working with their best under nine en players and
Speaker 6: there's no doubt she could go on and be a
Speaker 6: great coach if she wants to, But at the moment,
Speaker 6: it's about her having a great experience with these girls
Speaker 6: as well.
Speaker 1: And Meg, you've been captain virtually your whole career. How
Speaker 1: have you found the transition from captain c into coaching.
Speaker 1: It's still early days, but have you found it so far?
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's something I'm really looking forward to.
Speaker 5: I feel like I've got a lot to learn and understand,
Speaker 5: I guess from a coach's perspective.
Speaker 11: Obviously done a lot of playing over the.
Speaker 5: Time and understand that view, but it is slightly different,
Speaker 5: I guess from a coach's perspective.
Speaker 11: But I get the opportunity to work with Beamsy and and.
Speaker 5: Lisa Kietly Clive Rose as well, who've had some really
Speaker 5: good experience in this space, and especially working with the
Speaker 5: Pathway girls. So yeah, I feel like I'm really excited
Speaker 5: about the opportunity to learn a lot through the process,
Speaker 5: but then also gets get to know the girls and
Speaker 5: try and pass on some of the knowledge and experiences
Speaker 5: that I had throughout my career and try and help
Speaker 5: them developers as much as possible, and also help them
Speaker 5: to have a really enjoyable and fun experience, you know.
Speaker 5: I know, growing up, when I got the opportunity to
Speaker 5: meet to meet you know, other players who played for
Speaker 5: a long time, I always enjoyed that experience and left,
Speaker 5: you know, left it in a really positive way. So
Speaker 5: that's really something I'm hoping to do with this group
Speaker 5: of girls is make sure they have some fun and
Speaker 5: learn some things along the way.
Speaker 11: And yeah, hopefully they leave this too better cricketers than people.
Speaker 2: The pathway system seems really strong at the minute.
Speaker 5: Meg.
Speaker 1: When you made your debut for Victoria you were sixteen,
Speaker 1: I believe it must be completely different landscape to what
Speaker 1: it was then to what it is now for these
Speaker 1: young girls coming through.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, the talent coming through is incredible. You know,
Speaker 5: there's really highly skilled players coming in who you know,
Speaker 5: really get opportunities at higher levels at a very young
Speaker 5: age and it's really exciting to see. I think, you know,
Speaker 5: it's a testament to the pathway programs that are in
Speaker 5: place with Beansy sort of leading the way in that
Speaker 5: it gives them really good opportunities to learn and develop
Speaker 5: and also expose them to challenging situations as well. So
Speaker 5: I think that's what we'll get throughout this series. Come
Speaker 5: out up against two different teams in Trolankor and England.
Speaker 5: I think that just provides the platform for girls to
Speaker 5: be exposed to different situations and I guess prepares them
Speaker 5: in a way for what might come moving forward to
Speaker 5: And we've seen with some of the young debutantes in
Speaker 5: the Australian team at the moment they come into the
Speaker 5: side and they're able to dominate and.
Speaker 11: Contribute straight away. So that's what I guess tours like
Speaker 11: this are about, is trying to expose them, you know,
Speaker 11: the younger girls, the things they might come up against
Speaker 11: down the track.
Speaker 1: Now, Kristin, this one's for you. Kieva Bray, her name
Speaker 1: isn't in this squad. She had that backstress fracture earlier
Speaker 1: in the season. Do you have an update on her
Speaker 1: and how she's tracking.
Speaker 11: Yeah, she wasn't.
Speaker 6: She was unavailable for this series, but obviously always comes
Speaker 6: up in conversation as well. So well and truly eligible
Speaker 6: for the next World Cup as well. So look, we've
Speaker 6: seen her perform at the highest level domestically. She was
Speaker 6: unbelievable in the last World Cup, named in the Team
Speaker 6: of the tournament, so you know, when she's fit and able,
Speaker 6: i'd expect her to be in and around this group.
Speaker 6: I think she's one of quite a few really exciting
Speaker 6: players who has looked really comfortable at a senior level,
Speaker 6: but also in and around this program as well, So
Speaker 6: we hope to have her around in the future for that,
Speaker 6: but it also provides an opportunity for other young players,
Speaker 6: So there's others that are getting that opportunity as well,
Speaker 6: and injury is an unfortunate part of the game, but
Speaker 6: it's something that you've got to kind of work through
Speaker 6: and we look forward to having a back around soon.
Speaker 1: Lucy Hamilton, she's the one who is fresh out of
Speaker 1: that under nineteen system and there's already made waves on
Speaker 1: the international scene. We've got Mia Barwick making some headlines
Speaker 1: down in Tasmania as well. She's in this squad. Who
Speaker 1: are the other names that we should be watching out
Speaker 1: for during this series.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think what's been great for many of these
Speaker 6: girls through the Spring Challenge leading into the last WBBL
Speaker 6: have had an opportunity. I Stafford has played for Japan
Speaker 6: as well as the Australian of the nineteen group and
Speaker 6: play in the Spring Challenge for the Brisbane Heat, as
Speaker 6: did Philip Asussi.
Speaker 11: Played in there as well.
Speaker 6: Ara Airy has played for Victoria in WNCL in the
Speaker 6: New Year, as well as the Melbourne Starts through the
Speaker 6: Spring Challenge.
Speaker 11: So there's actually quite.
Speaker 6: A few of the girls that have had that those
Speaker 6: opportunities as well as the ones that you've mentioned as well,
Speaker 6: and I think that's a really cool part about where
Speaker 6: the women's game is at I think those talented players
Speaker 6: through competitions like the Spring Challenger getting the opportunity as
Speaker 6: well as this sort of international under nineteen cricket as well.
Speaker 6: I feel like every time I talked to someone who
Speaker 6: used to play with or or a pass player from
Speaker 6: the Aussie setup, they always say, I wish I'd have
Speaker 6: had an Under nineteen World Cup. You know, we're only
Speaker 6: we're coming up to the third edition of that Under
Speaker 6: nineteen World Cup. So it's a pretty cool opportunity that
Speaker 6: helps prepare you to be playing senior cricket. And we've
Speaker 6: seen a lot of the guys come through the Under
Speaker 6: nine A Male World Cup and go on and play
Speaker 6: for Australia, So it's a it's a pretty cool thing
Speaker 6: that be a part of.
Speaker 1: And Meghan on the batting front, are there some good
Speaker 1: young stars that have really caught your eyes so far?
Speaker 1: And I mean there's Christian touched on. Quite a couple
Speaker 1: of these players have already played WNCL for example.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think there's some really really good
Speaker 5: depth within the squad and I guess it just provides
Speaker 5: all of them with opportunities to really show us what
Speaker 5: their their skills are. So yeah, For me, it's just
Speaker 5: about learning a little bit about these players and what
Speaker 5: their strengths are and where are some areas where they
Speaker 5: can keep improving their game and then keep taking it
Speaker 5: to the next level. So yeah, I haven't had a
Speaker 5: lot of exposure exposure to them, I guess, but really
Speaker 5: excited just to see them develop and try and understand
Speaker 5: their games a little bit more so that you know
Speaker 5: when they do get into those Spring Challenges or into
Speaker 5: WNCL then they're pretty well equipped to be able to perform.
Speaker 5: So yeah, we've had a training session here today and
Speaker 5: really excited about the talent that's on show and what
Speaker 5: we've got to work with.
Speaker 1: Now England one of the opponents. Do the girls need
Speaker 1: to be reminded or given any lessons on what the
Speaker 1: Australias as England rivalry means or are they pretty to
Speaker 1: date with all that.
Speaker 11: I think it's well and truly entrenched in them for
Speaker 11: whatever reason.
Speaker 6: I think that that just happens to be the case,
Speaker 6: so I'd expect it'll be a good little tussle. We've
Speaker 6: we've had some good contests against them in the past
Speaker 6: as well, and it's I think it's really good for
Speaker 6: us to come up against them as opposition. We've played
Speaker 6: a lot of cricket in the subcontinent against Sri Lanka
Speaker 6: and really kind of spin dominated, so it's it's nice
Speaker 6: to come up against England to you know, you look
Speaker 6: at both competitions in the WBBL and THEE hundred, where
Speaker 6: you know both both teams are hoping to push players
Speaker 6: throughto into that as well.
Speaker 11: So they're really good.
Speaker 6: Opposition for us, and hopefully they'll have some battles now
Speaker 6: and they'll go into an ASHES series in five years
Speaker 6: time and they'll be able to pick up those contests
Speaker 6: where they left off.
Speaker 11: So we'll start them young in terms of that rivalry, that's.
Speaker 1: For sure, Kristin. We all have a leg spinner, especially
Speaker 1: on this podcast. Are there any strong leg spinners coming
Speaker 1: through as well in this squad.
Speaker 6: I always get in trouble for picking up too many
Speaker 6: leg spinners, but you're right there. I tend to always
Speaker 6: find a way, but we actually have leg spinners in
Speaker 6: this group. In Teagan went to the last World Cup.
Speaker 11: I Stafford, as I mentioned, played for for Japan as
Speaker 11: well as the AUSSI under nineteen's and Emily Powell as well,
Speaker 11: so three really different styles of leg spinners, which is
Speaker 11: which is really cool to have in and around the group.
Speaker 11: Probably more spin bowlers in this cycle. Each cycle was
Speaker 11: a little bit different.
Speaker 6: I thought we had quite a few pace bowlers, which
Speaker 6: was led by Lucy Hamilton in the in the last cycle,
Speaker 6: and this one or few more spinners.
Speaker 11: So I'll never be complaining about lots of spinners, that's
Speaker 11: for sure.
Speaker 1: And just finally this one for both if you are
Speaker 1: teenagers obviously have a very different vocabulary to every other
Speaker 1: generation are he goes up with the current lingo of
Speaker 1: the young crop or struggling a bit on that front.
Speaker 5: Well, so yeah, not up today, not up like another
Speaker 5: language they're talking sometimes. So but there's lots of personalities here,
Speaker 5: which is really cool, and we love people to come
Speaker 5: in and try and be themselves and provide some entertainment.
Speaker 6: So no doubt there'll be plenty of that throughout the series.
Speaker 6: He has nothing better to make you feel old than
Speaker 6: hanging out with that's for sure. So I don't know
Speaker 6: often what they're talking about, and they probably don't know
Speaker 6: what we're talking about either, And what social media platform
Speaker 6: is popular, I have absolutely no idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so teenage lingo Richo, it's obviously going to be
Speaker 1: important for those coaches to try and get a cross that.
Speaker 1: I must admit I'm feeling old every time I speak
Speaker 1: to someone younger.
Speaker 2: How are you? I mean, your kids probably aren't quite.
Speaker 3: Nice that age. No different language, isn't it.
Speaker 4: It would be a challenge that communication has to be
Speaker 4: pinpoint with the teenage just because yeah, they've got their
Speaker 4: own language now, haven't they.
Speaker 3: So just keep it cricket specific. I think you'll be fine.
Speaker 2: Cricket lexicond doesn't change too much.
Speaker 4: It's stayed stands the time the cricket chat, so yeah,
Speaker 4: they'll be fine.
Speaker 1: All right, that'll just about doing for this season, Richo.
Speaker 1: We've toiled away and we've got here to this final
Speaker 1: stage and final episode of the season. So good work
Speaker 1: from this corner of the podcast. What's planned for your
Speaker 1: off season that you're going to be putting the feed
Speaker 1: up or hitting the nets or what's on.
Speaker 4: For There'll be no hitting of the nets. They'll be
Speaker 4: putting the feed up for sure. So now I've enjoyed
Speaker 4: it thanks to the opportunity. I've loved once a week
Speaker 4: just chatting cricket. So try and keep a close eye
Speaker 4: on what's going on. But thanks captain, you run a
Speaker 4: really tight ship over here. We've changed studios twice, so
Speaker 4: we've been around. It's been a long season. Back in
Speaker 4: what was July or August we started, so there's been
Speaker 4: a bit going on. But now we wind down, we taper,
Speaker 4: it's mad Monday, we relax and we have a good
Speaker 4: off season.
Speaker 3: So what about you.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be putting my feed up. I've got
Speaker 1: a bit of a few events coming up. I've got
Speaker 1: actually getting married at the end of May. So shout
Speaker 1: out to my fiance Bella. She's been looking for a
Speaker 1: shout out for the whole season. So there you go,
Speaker 1: last episode. There you go, and then it's been tuning
Speaker 1: in all year and then heading up. Actually you mentioned
Speaker 1: Bosnia and Hurts heading to the feet wall Cup watch
Speaker 1: them to watch Australia in Bosnia, so it would be.
Speaker 4: Fun, excellent, Well, big off season for you, not for me,
Speaker 4: so enjoy that, good luck with it. And when will
Speaker 4: the Unplayable pod be backed?
Speaker 1: You know, we'll probably be back in August, i'd say,
Speaker 1: ahead of the Australia Test matches against Bangladesh, so maybe
Speaker 1: we'll be chatting that we'll.
Speaker 4: Say, we'll say, we'll see, so stay tuned for that.
Speaker 4: But again, thanks for the opportunity.
Speaker 3: It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 2: It's time to head to the pub.
Speaker 3: You stay classy, San Diego.